The Science of Deafness (with Elliot Douglas) | Sci Guys Podcast

[@SciGuys]

Do you understand any sign languages? Are you deaf?

[@ElenaAroura]

I know some asl but hard to practice when all your family tells you “we are not deaf stop signing”

[@mattiemakesmusic]

A bit of ASL!!

[@witchy_titan]

i don't know any sign language yet, but I plan on learning

[@Mariam-670]

i’m currently learning asl!! interestingly, understanding asl has been harder for me than actually memorizing and using it.

[@Meeko4eve39]

I am fully deaf in my left ear and hard of hearing in my right ear (I hear about 45 - 50 % without hearing aids). Not since birth, but I acquired my hearing loss/deafness at around age 6/7 before I started primary school due to an infection after which the hairs in my cochlea (in both ears) were damaged. Since I grew up hearing up until that point & had access to hearing aids pretty quickly I communicate verbally. But I do want to learn German Sign Language. I know how to fingerspell my name, I can count till 100, I can answer the question "How old are you?" and I can say "Enjoy your meal!" xD But that's it so far! I wanna learn more and downloaded a video based lexicon for GSL recently.

[@annao6080]

Please bring Elliot back as a regular. He brings an awesome vibe to the show.

[@JaredNotJerrad]

Agree!

[@jajdhck]

Agree!!

[@avalyea4979]

100%!!!

[@jajdhck]

I would love to see Elliot again! Oh and I'm learning Polish Sign Language 😌 it's funny how even simple words like "speak" and "hear" are completely different, when I saw him sign them I thought "wow it's not even close, "speaking" in BSL is closer to "vomiting" than "speaking" in Polish lmaooo. Also, I just have to say, Elliot is very cute 😅

[@szaahhh]

Elliot is 100% giving me adorable modern day Peter pan as a young adult and I'm here for it. Bring back Elliot!

[@irismeeow]

unfortunately, there is a lot of internalised ableism (and gatekeeping but that's another issue), even in the disability community. it can be really hard to accept a disability, especially after years of medical gaslighting. what really helps me is the online disability community (different support groups on fb and following disabled people on instagram) and talking to friends with similar experiences :)

[@triedxtrue]

my partner is deaf and i’m an ASL interpreter!

[@HotTakeAndy]

Elliot's laugh was so adorable. I love him! What a sweet soul.

[@triedxtrue]

it’s still very split but a good portion of the deaf community is trying to claim the word disabled due to the intention behind avoiding it, is ableist. it’s also super narrow minded because deaf people with other disabilities aren’t ever really thought of, it’s always otherwise able bodied and/or neurotypical deaf people further isolating deaf+ folks

[@levipierpont]

This. I’m hearing and proficient in ASL and I’m having these conversations with Deaf and HoH people constantly. I’m obviously not going to tell a person how to identify, but I try to highlight how ableist stigma isn’t going to help anyone

[@sonicbackrooms897]

I’m deaf+ myself but ngl i giggled at the phrasing cuz it sounds like a subscription service

[@Meeko4eve39]

As a person who is deaf in the left ear & hard of hearing in the right ear I THOROUGHLY enjoyed this episode!!! It's amazing how similar Elliot's experiences are to mine 😃It felt amazing hearing someone else talk about these things and immediately knowing what is meant because like same, you know? Please, have Elliot on again!

[@louisgray3479]

I'm hard of hearing and were hearing aids since I was little. Like Eliot I used to be ashamed of them. I was bullied in school, and the hearing aids were one of the things other used to make fun of. So I tried to make them less visible. When I needed new ones I made sure to get some beige ones instead of more vibrant colours. Then I changed school. There were a lot of deaf and hard of hearing people on that school. For the first time I came into contact with this community which made me change the way I thought about my sense of hearing an my hearing aids. As something that is an intrinsic part of my life and not something to shy away from or be ashamed of. I also used to refuse the disabled label for myself because I thought it didn't hinder me much in my day to day life. If I didn't understand someone, I just had to ask them to repeat it. But I changed my stance on that as well. Even if it doesn't hinder me much, it still does hinder me. And even a slight disability is a disability and should be acknowledged as such. This became clear when I started studying at Uni. I always had to came earlier to lecture than most of my fellow students in order to get a seat at the front, because in the back I have a had a hard time understanding the lecturer. When I go to a Restaurant I can only talk to people directly next to me (especially when there's loud music in the background). The other day I went to some schooling. I was quite early and I had already taken a seat. But before it even started I noticed the room had a very bad acoustic and I wouldn't be able to understand anything from where I was sitting. Fortunately I was early and could change my seat. In the past I would probably had just stayed where I was because changing seats means acknowledging I can't do certain things others can without changing the circumstances. Which is the very definition of a disability. So by refusing to think of it as disability I had made my life harder by a lot. I've also started to watch movies ad KZbin with subtitles on because it makes it so much easier. (Thanks at this point to adding subtitles to this video, automatic generated ones tend do be crap.) Also there's ableism. Yes, people indeed tend to think of you as stupid, if you ask them to often to repeat themselves, and tend to treat you as such. This was especially the case with my fellow students which used to bully me. Once I was asked by a teacher (before I had changed school) what my hearing aids were for if I still had to ask them 'all the time' to repeat themselves (I don't think I had to ask particular often that day). Things like that also happen on day to day conversations with strangers on the street. (Sorry, but cars in the background make things difficult for me. You can't just expect me to converse just as easy as you do. But shouting in my ear so loud they start to ring isn't helpful either. (that happened once.)) Anyway, please bring Elliot back to the podcast. He seems amazing.

[@jaybirdvlogs7279]

As somebody who will be studying to become an interpreter for mandarin in uni next year, I’ve really been loving these past few language themed episodes!

[@heteranthera3473]

I really liked this episode. It was very interesting. I only had one interaction with a deaf person in uni. I asked someone if it was the right room. They wrote on a piece of paper "I'm deaf". At first I panicked a little, especially because I'm shy, but didn't want to be rude and so I tried to tell with my hands what I wanted and somehow it worked.^^ It should become common knowledge to know some basic signs like many people can say hi and thank you in different languages for example.

[@JennaGetsCreative]

I know a bit of ASL! I have a small amount of hearing loss from chronic ear infections as a toddler, but I also have auditory processing issues likely linked to how my little autistic brain is wired. I just wanted to say I love it that you guys always bring in guests with lived experience and I love it that those guests immediately feel welcome enough to share things about themselves that they might not be so forthcoming with in other situations. Is the number of openly LGBTQIA+ guests on your podcast so high because you have a lot of LGBTQIA+ friends and fans or does it just seem so high because not all of those guests would have drawn that attention to themselves on other podcasts? Probably both, and I love it. Edit- awww! For me that feedback squeak was Grandpa. Edit 2- The uni thing. A few years back there was a professor over here at Memorial University of Newfoundland who refused to wear a mic system for her deaf student and there's an actual court case and everything. It was in the news again recently.

[@thiel_spencer]

I am not deaf and I cannot sign. However, I did take a few terms of ASL in college and thought it was wildly fascinating! Both the language itself and Deaf culture. (Also, I watched Sound Of Metal as a part of the class, finding Deafness in media, and it's such a good movie!)

[@Imagisweet]

I have sudden single sided deafness, where I lost almost completely all of the hearing in one ear over the course of under 24 hours. (My specialist ruled it was probably a virus that attacked the nerve.) There's a lot that depends on stereo hearing that I didn't expect, like navigating small spaces like hallways (minor echolocation is a thing hearing people do without realizing it!), and pinpointing the source of a sound, and focusing on one sound out of a lot of noise. It's been frustrating, but also fascinating to learn and adjust.

[@jellybeans3994]

I am very late to this, but if you haven't discovered it already, most phones have a setting to pan music to one side, it's so useful!

[@Ratigan2]

Elliot's laugh is enough to get my approval of future podcasts with him

[@LilCatDude]

28:07 I don’t have any diagnosed hear impairment (though I suspect that I have APD) and I’ve been called deaf my whole life both as jokes from friends my 5th time asking them to repeat themselves and people who where mad that I couldn’t understand them.

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

Regarding subtitles I'd also like to add that they're super helpful for people who are non-native speakers of English (or whatever language you're watching something in). We always used subtitles in my house growing up because my mom is deaf (and am from a country that loves dubbing everything, so lip movements were never accurate on TV anyway), so I was used to them already but when I started watching more media in English, I still used subtitles. They're so helpful when there are accents that are hard to understand or even just to follow unclear/slurred speech, catch words that you didn't know where pronounced like that, etc. I also have adhd (although only recently diagnosed) and have always found it easier to process subbed media, which pre-diagnosis I'd just put up to being so used to it and the fact that shows in English are still in a foreign language to me (although my English is decent now), but it's probably also adhd-related to an extend.

[@Mariam-670]

loved this episode, definitely (lol) one of my favorites!! would luv to see elliot back on the pod in the future!!

[@Asher44139]

I'm hearing but have other invisible disabilities, so I was so happy when you were talking about accessibility and consideration for people around you, because even when you're talking from the perspective of one disability-deafness- they are applicable to many other disabilities (like how you talked about ADHD and subtitles or not being able to focus with subtitles) and is great to discuss in general. I also realised how much I rely on subtitles and other context clues due to my cognitive function being impaired by my CFS- so at moments I was like "why haven't I really considered this before?". So interesting; I would love more discussion of deafness, Elliott being on the show again, and talking about accessibility in general. :)

[@JadedShadow]

Yes!! Please more episodes with Elliot!!

[@exbirdsandwich]

They should do an episode on the history of deafness, I was hoping they'd talk about the Milan conference bc I feel it's a pretty major part of deaf culture and sign language

[@AracneMusic]

I know Spanish Sign Language :) I studied to be an interpreter, but since economy was bad back there, the working conditions and oportunities were not in my favor, so... I have to give up and find other jobs. So I've been slowly but surely forgetting how to sign. Sometimes muscle memory kicks in though!

[@avalyea4979]

Elliot is wonderful. Please have him back . Come back soon Elliot! :)

[@BestFriendsWhoLiveTogether]

I’m not deaf, but I didn’t start speaking till I was around 8 due to my autism (which is incredibly late) so I used to use BSL to communicate. I’ve forgotten most of it now though, as I haven’t used it.

[@spookyputhy7991]

As someone with adhd that struggles with word processing often I feel like normalizing ASL would be so helpful

[@justhavingalook7857]

today i learned that BSL and Auslan actually have a few signs in common! I'm by no means fluent in either but my mum tried teaching me a bit of Auslan when I was a kid.

[@crptpyr]

Probably because while words in spoken language are relatively arbitrary (with the exception of onomatopoeia, ig) a solid amount of signs are visual representations of the thing being described that could make some level of sense to you without even necessarily knowing any sign, so a lot of the same or similar signs will be created to describe the same things across different cultures

[@outside8312]

I was raised with the basics of bsl integrated into everyday life. None of my family is deaf, my parents just felt it was an important life skill.

[@nourishmentality1916]

Definitely bring him back!

[@aryzonahuwa-schweitzer6871]

I would love to see Elliot back! This was a fantastic episode

[@hnktbt]

i'm learning asl, both to communicate with people (both my neighbors growing up were born deaf, so i was used to how signing and lipreading worked as a kid. i want to be useful if hoh people i meet through life are barred from communication with others) and also because i have a genetic disorder that makes me more likely to develop hearing loss, so i'm preparing early to avoid the "scramble to learn a new language" part if it does happen. really interesting discussions!!

[@crptpyr]

When I worked in retail (it was like a kind of place where people have to come up and tell you what they want so you can go get it for them) it became very apparent to me how much of a barrier is created by hearing people not learning sign I'd have deaf customers a lot, and it became very apparent how much of an annoying form of communication having to physically write stuff was. They always looked so appreciative when I could just sign something like "thank you" at the end of a transaction and like,, that's the bare minimum yknow

[@natalieevans8085]

I'm a hearing member of a fully hearing family but learned some BSL signs before I could talk because my Dad worked with children with special needs and was learning it. One of my favourite early memories was my dad picking up a deaf hitchhiker (it was the '80s!!) And being utterly delighted that I could say hello & tell him I like cake! I'm now 40 and teach early years children and do my best to teach them (and my colleagues) signs and how to communicate with non hearing people. I really think signing is something everyone should learn in school .

[@AlatheD]

I know a little ASL. I had a roommate in college who is totally deaf, I learned a lot from her. She could read lips very well, and I'd say embarrassing things in public without vocalizing. She'd get flustered until I told her there was no sound, then she'd laugh. Hey! BSL and ASL have the same sign for "Yes"!

[@b.e.a.n.s_]

I love this show so much! Thank you for keeping me occupied during boring school hours!

[@FridayRosesTwitch]

This was super interesting, I'd love to properly learn BSL as well. And would definitely love another episode on deafness. Also a thing that I recently learnt is that you have BSL and Sign Supported English. I know I used to think that BSL was just English but using signs to represent the words when that's actually Sign Supported English and BSL has a different structure and method of communicating

[@raincloudrat6970]

Elliot's really cool, I would love to see another episode with him!

[@puptastic5]

this weeks episode was awesome!! elliot was amazing in this! i love learning about stuff from you guys that i hadnt even considered i needed to be educated about, thank you!!!

[@caitlinmosesian2429]

In the U.S. you can now buy hearing aids over the counter. Pricing varies but accessibility is getting better here and THAT is exciting!

[@sawarah]

I have to disagree with the comparison to glasses just slightly, because a lot of people make this comparison and it causes people to be LESS considerate of my deafness in social settings - because “well you’re wearing hearing aids so you’re normal now.” I wore both glasses and hearing aids (before I got lasik). Glasses corrected my vision 100% perfectly. Hearing aids only aid me, and I still struggle to hear in certain situations. They basically only work as well as glasses in perfect conditions. Things like accents, wind, background noise, whispering, cross-talking, etc. are still something that deaf people have issues with even wearing top-of-the-line aids. Y’all definitely covered that there are many different kinds of deafness and issues so not trying to criticize too much, just had to say something on that point.

[@SciGuys]

Of course glasses aren't a 1:1 with hearing aids, that's not really what was being compared - but glasses don't exactly correct vision 100% - there's no peripheral vision, they can get dirty or scratched, they can steam up, they can't be worn in pools, etc. Again, hearing aids obviously don't make a deaf person hear exactly the same as a hearing person. Glasses are much better in that regard, but don't exactly make one see 100% as well as someone would unassisted.

[@mahrinui18]

I'm learning a bit of ASL and it's very funny to me that in the thumbnail Corry looks like he's going "chair!!!" Presumably it's something else in BSL

[@joywearing2527]

Great episode, absolutely more episodes with Elliot about things related to deafness or anything else!

[@beththebubbly69]

Fun Fact!! ASL has a method of sign that is entirely fingerspelled (called the Rochester Method), it's mostly only used by older people who were taught that way when they were young thankfully, but boy is it a lot (ASL does make it easier and faster than BSL though, as in ASL all letters are one handed so fingerspelling something is typically very fluid and fluent!)

[@theotherrat]

I learnt a bit of german sign language and i do want to learn more. I think it would be so helpful for me, sometimes being non verbal

[@LightPink]

For the graduate disparity: most people became Deaf later in life so different data should be used, and many students chose to go over seas to Gallaudet University or other schools for the Deaf so they aren't graduating in the U.K.. Although even with the more accurate data the difference is concerning.

[@nourishmentality1916]

lol "everyone would benefit from sign language" except blind peeps...but I do agree there's immense value in it! Great episode!

[@SciGuys]

Realised this during the edit! I’ll be cheeky and say that blind people could still feel signs 😉

[@samjohnson4751]

I know a very tiny bit of ASL and when I was younger my family would use some signs to communicate. Also growing up Christian and being brought to church every week where we weren't allowed to talk sometimes my brothers and I would play hangman using the ASL alphabet.

[@JW-biswede]

DEAFinately have Elliot back 🤟

[@PurpleEnbyTerminator]

I am currently learning ASL and it’s interesting to see the differences between ASL and BSL. Yes is the same but no is different. Both of the Professors I have had are Deaf.

[@florian3183]

I`m a bit bummed you skipped over cochlea implants so fast. Not only are they a fascinating piece of technology but the discussion around CIs in the deaf community itself is very interesting and wouldve been great for some actual discussion with different points of view.

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

agreed! would've loved to hear more about that.

[@koalaskrypin]

Yes, more episodes of this.

[@oivenmann9977]

I really want to learn DGS (German sign language), but there's only two courses in my area, one of which doesn't fit my schedule and the other one has always been full. I'm really interested in languages, but I've only learned audible languages so far and I'm really interested in learning a language that is not based on sound

[@genXstream]

It's kind of amused me to watch Elliot describe the signs for yes and no as they emulate head nods and shakes. Makes me wonder why BSL doesn't just use head nods and shakes.

[@austinlam1172]

I learnt a few words in ASL when I was super into musicals and there was a deaf production of spring awakening on broadway back in 2016, but I live in NZ so it's um not very helpful lol. the whole concept of deaf musicals is really cool though. there are some behind the scenes vids of the deaf west spring awakening production where they explain how they coordinated everything so that the deaf and HOH actors knew when to sign their lines and what not. I've also tried to learn a bit of NZSL using some online resources. NZSL is actually one of our official languages here! alongside maori :)

[@dehiie]

I enjoyed this episode a lot! Very interesting

[@Abigael_Zed]

I'd love to see more episodes with Elliot! Also, where's Jamp?

[@SciGuys]

Jamp left Sci Guys a month or so ago!

[@theductductgoose]

I took about 5 years of ASL split between high school and college

[@dragonsmccreepy6589]

im not sure to what degree but i had hearing loss in my left ear from a cholesteatoma, but since i had a surgery removing it my hearing actually improved, despite the fact that the 'toma destroyed my middle ear bones and atleast part of my vestibule system. no clue how its possible for me to hear without them!

[@Drawoon]

I'd seen half this episode in clips already

[@SciGuys]

The episodes come out first!

[@yohanrives3752]

I know a bit of french sign language and use it with the children at the creche where i work

[@LightPink]

(also international sign is a thing and you're signing "sit" in asl in the thumbnail)

[@vatnidd]

Movies in Hong Kong just get bilingual subtitles as a given. Sometimes it's so given that it's even burnt into the film itself!

[@zalletu]

ELLIOT AGAIN PLEASE ✨

[@GeorgeFarren]

Ahhh this was a lovely episode :)

[@marzbar479]

I'd love to see another episode about gene editing with Elliot. that sounds epic

[@jackriley603]

Elliot is such a beautiful person.

[@oliverpenna5221]

I know some ASL, I've been trying to get back into it!

[@vinshoken]

the ad bell segment has no right to be this funny

[@nelsonkaiowa4347]

Very informative.

[@anonymouse7079]

I use subtitles too lol (NonDeaf) but my thoughts are maybe a requirement for optional glasses that put subtitles somehow on a special screen under the screen?

[@anonymouse7079]

bruuuhhh legit what you said lol combonong the two things!! Or giving multiple optionsss

[@user-sw7ru6tk6e]

I am trying to learn ASL and so far I know a few words and a few phrases

[@jaybirdvlogs7279]

Lets see elliot again!

[@fane_abyssal9175]

Tom Scott mentioned pronouns and places in space for signing - if the lecturer was prepped, could they write some of the longer/technical words on the whiteboard with an associated hand sign/number/letter and that could be used by the interpreter?

[@SciGuys]

There’s not always a whiteboard & there are an obscene number of these words/phrases in any one lecture

[@mistym8271]

Where is jamp?

[@SciGuys]

Jamp is no longer a part of Sci Guys

[@Abigael_Zed]

You're seriously just going to leave him out without any explanation??! This is not okay. We've had Jamp as part of the team from the beginning! 3.5 years as Corry said in another episode! Not addressing this makes it seem like there is something to hide or that the remaining Sci Guys are jerks. Please tell us what happened.

[@louminisalouminios9559]

i didnt know that. sad

[@avaparkergray1983]

omg, u went to Cannes? I had no idea! 😂

[@anonymouse7079]

Ok but like did you record your ad thing at a completely differrent day lol?

[@lit2021]

Elliot seemed strangely familiar to me until I realized he looks a bit like Jeremy Sumpter in Peter Pan (2003) 😁

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

idk if i agree with the glasses comparison... i can't quite pinpoint it but the "it would be like blindness or deafness were it not for the infrastructure" statement kind of doesn't feel right. I might be misunderstanding the point though, not sure

[@SciGuys]

If glasses weren’t readily available then it would quite literally be like legal blindness for people beyond a certain prescription (me)

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

@@SciGuys I can agree that it depends on the prescription. Maybe that's where my issue stems from, I know for a fact if I didn't have my glasses (and glasses didn't exist at all, I would have no way of getting any), I'd still have fewer accessibility needs than my blind friends. But then also, legal blindness (to my understanding meaning you're sight impaired / partially sighted in the UK, terminology varies a bit between different countries) is also different from blindness (severe sight impairment). You said "blindness" in the episode, that to me is a crucial difference (I get this isn't an episode on blindness so nuances might be lost but still). They're ultimately on the same spectrum and one end of the spectrum just needs more infrastructure for accessibility. I'm obviously not trying to compare severity but since this is about infrastructure, some disabilities need more infrastructure than others.

[@waltergale2903]

He’s so cool

[@briannamanchester5919]

I do not know any sign languages :(

[@elliotjames5541]

So my name is Elliot and I am hard of hearing and was also raised a CODA while learning ASL

[@ausomebeak]

Disabled and disability are not dirty words

[@flaherty5090]

i've been learning AASL (ancient albanian sign language) as a bit of a meme. i should be focusing my time on a more productive sign language.

[@avaparkergray1983]

random but unsound is a really good movie on Netflix about a deaf trans dude :)

[@etheplant]

Ohh what is it called?

[@khantimettaful]

It's called 'Unsound' :)

[@etheplant]

@@khantimettaful omg i literally saw just now that the person above wrote it out... Well that's what's you get for reading too quickly lol. Thanks!!

[@karinelfwing9095]

I know some Swedish sign language and in course to learn it. I am not deaf.

[@Kaltag2278]

Glasses are not easy to get in the usa 😭

[@irismeeow]

i'm trying not to use the word stupid at all anymore. what does it even mean? it's totally ableist language

[@danger_design]

"Chinese Whispers" 😮😵🤬 Yeah, just fyi - the rest of the world calls this game 'broken telephone' For what I hope are obvious reasons. I realise the sci guys didn't come up with this name and that it's probably common parlance but... oof, that was a huge blow of culturally normalised racism. Love the show btw. I also have ADHD. You always have great guests. Sorry that this was my first comment. 💜

[@SciGuys]

As far as we were aware the etymology isn't really racist? Does it not just refer to Chinese languages being unintelligible to us - given that we speak a completely different language. Similar to "it's all Greek to me". Of course there could be specifically racist origins, but neutrally referencing a culture/language being radically different isn't inherently racist.

[@danger_design]

@@SciGuys I think the premise that any foreign language is as unintelligible as intentionally lying about what has been said is inherently xenophobic on some level. 🤷🏻‍♀️ But then I also think that specifically, naming a game based on intentional deception during the transmission of secret messages "Chinese" (as opposed to, I dunno, French, Tamil or Braille) corresponds to well known western cultural prejudices against East Asian people. But I mean, I think the fact that calling it "chinese message" will get you sent home from school in more culturally sensitive (or just more politically correct) environments (like public schools outside the UK) is all the context anyone needs to appreciate that it's a *terrible* name for a game which doesn't really need to be defended by anyone 🤓

[@SciGuys]

I don’t think you’re playing the same game - the point is not to lie about what is heard, the aim is the exact opposite. Someone starts with a secret phrase & whispers it to the person next to them only once, said person then whispers the phrase to the person next to them only once, and so on. Since the phrase is said quietly and isn’t repeated, individuals’ mishearing of the phrase compounds until it is (usually) unrecognisable by the time it reaches the last person. I’d understand your stance if intentional deception was a key part of the game, but it isn’t. At least not the version I’ve played. I don’t think calling it “Chinese Whispers” would get anyone sent home from school. Again, to my knowledge, this is a neutral use of a foreign language to describe the core conceit of the game - trying to decipher something somewhat unintelligible. There’s no intentional deception. I think you’re describing “Rumours” - a game wherein one intentionally changes parts of the phrase. The “defence” of the phrase is actually kind of important, I think. To my knowledge, “Chinese Whispers” is no more racist or xenophobic than “It’s all Greek to me”. Being overly cautious around things that reference other races/cultures, even when said reference is innocuous, is something we really should avoid. Otherwise we tend to dilute the perception of harm caused by actually harmful words & phrases.

[@danger_design]

@@SciGuys I feel like you're working really hard to avoid the central issue here. There's something "Chinese" about Chinese Checkers. There's nothing "Chinese" about mixed messages, broken lines of communication, or misunderstood whispers. And yes, it'll get you sent home from school to go around describing things you find difficult to understand as being "Chinese", especially if you keep doing it once someone lets you know they think it's racist. That's kind of a shocking level of dedication to *not* avoiding potentially racist language.

[@shannivazana7537]

I know a tiny bit of asl and even less Hebrew sign language

[@sofiaivarsson3482]

Swedish sign language!

[@anonymouse7079]

I actually do like them as an accessary for you too lol

[@SeahorseShimmer]

I sign ASL and LSF :)

[@SeahorseShimmer]

For learning BSL, I heard BSLzone is helpful.

[@SeahorseShimmer]

'Sometimes they are meaning B', was it Jess and Claude's baby? She said Rupert was loving the letter B lately in her last video haha

[@swedneck]

Ever since reading a story where characters use hand signs to communicate when separated by a soundproof but transparent barrier i have also felt annoyed that we don't all learn some form of sign language, it's so incredibly obviously useful! It's like if we just didn't bother teaching people to count on their hands

[@ausomebeak]

Social disability vs medical disability

[@mliljegard19771209]

African american ASL and I'm niether deaf or african american

[@danitotd]

LOVED the episode!!! 💕💕💕 In Nicaragua, a group of deaf kids who weren’t thought how to speak were put together in a school. They CREATED the Nicaraguan Sign Language. The story is fascinating!! 🙌🙌🙌 These videos explore this topic in case you wanna know more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qme6paqwZrVqsKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6nHZHyajr2Xpdk

[@southernauslanlearner544]

you need an interpreter so Deaf people can watch this.

[@SciGuys]

The episode is captioned!

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

@@SciGuys Why only this one?

[@beththebubbly69]

I'm sorry but "I dont want my child to be Deaf" is absolutely not a valid point of view. That's ableist and if you feel that way you should not be having children. I understand not wanting your child to have a hard time, but that sentiment is better expressed in different phrases.

[@LightPink]

At what point is a condition severe enough that not wanting your child to have it is valid?