The Science of Flaming Brake Fluid and Pool Chlorine

In this video we explore the science behind the well-known reaction of brake fluid and pool chlorine.
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[@kamilleirvin910]

Nurdrage: "Don't drink brake fluid..." Me: *puts down cup*

[@hdrider2071]

😂😂😂

[@dvldog_]

Damn it! Why didn't he say that first!

[@renj6531]

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[@aidankilleen5889]

"Hey guys, I just heard you can refine dot 3 brake fluid into dot 4 by mixing it with pool chlorine, super cool."

[@R3VR1CK]

hey guys I heard my cum makes super babies, all you gotta do is snort it.

[@GMCLabs]

I did that reaction in a Gatorade bottle once, it burned in such a way the the bottom of the bottle got a hole burned in it and the whole thing took off like a rocket, probably went about 50 feet into the air. This was back in the 90's when pool shock had a higher concentration of calcium hypochlorite. I think it was around 70% back then. Seem every year it gets weaker and weaker. I noticed this when I got my first pool, every year I noticed the % of Calcium Hypochlorite would go down a half % or more in the same brand every year. Another cool reaction is pool shock, sugar and water in a soda bottle. It produces CO2 and will cause the bottle to explode. I told my friends about this in HS, one of them tried it, but he didn't realize how long the reaction takes. He was shaking the bottle for like a minute wondering why nothing waas happening, then suddenly he felt the bottle get warm and threw it, it basically blew up about a foot away from him, fortunately he wasn't hurt. Similar thing happened to me, but with Al foil and HCl in a bottle. I mixed it up and nothing was happening, so i put the bottle down, turned my back to it to relieve myself and it blew up behind me getting acid all over my back. Ran into my buddy's house and had him dousing me in baking soda. Good time being 15yo lol!

[@sevenproxies4255]

Sounds like my teenage years. Although I had a bit of an advantage over other teens. My stepdad loaded his own ammunition. So there was plenty of smokeless powder around the house for me to play around with. X-)

[@5roundsrapid263]

Gary Carone Good thing you had to take a leak! It could have been in your eyes and face.

[@bearcatben4762]

Me and a friend of mine got a hold of some dry ice and some nearly pure isopropyl alcohol and we decided it would be a great idea to try and freeze the alcohol and light it on fire. We put it in and it turned it into a nearly frozen alcohol slush and I knocked it over all over his socks and shoes.

[@garfieldcampbell8992]

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[@nickkonkle541]

I was just thinking that since the polyethylene glycol has its own oxygen it might be partially how the combustion gets oxidized. so what do people do with a fuel that can supply its own oxygen? rockets! one drawback I see though. look at all that muck the combustion makes. unsurprisingly I have no qualifications on the subject other than kerbal space program (the little green dude in my profile picture) so I could be completely wrong on the oxidation

[@donaldasayers]

This is why you should have separate waste containers for aldehydes and ketones, and chlorinated compounds. A similar explosive reaction has occurred in plastic extrusion machines when they have not been adequately flushed through between delrin/POM and PVC.

[@NurdRage]

Still waiting for chemicals so doing a few other things until then. Giveaway winners will be announced in next video.

[@Ismail-xq9ry]

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[@tmfan3888]

How to enter this givaway? Just press the subscribe button is enough?

[@backscan3030]

What would happen if you mixed the PEG laxative with the calcium hypochlorite? Sense they are both powders would they eventually react or would it only become reactive with water?

[@Stevedawhoop]

NurdRage what will happen when you mix all 3 together? Will it catch on fire faster?

[@MF9000]

How toxic is the smoke on the antifreeze /CaCl2 combo?

[@Poppacap79]

I appreciate the explanation more than seeing things go boom. I have a love for chemistry. I couldn’t afford to go to college to learn more. As such, I’m playing catch up and reading what I can and watching chemists, like you (among others).

[@bonez565]

It'd be interesting to see a 50/50 mix of brake fluid and antifreeze. Maybe you could get the faster ramp up with the flames as well.

[@mhamma6560]

My thought too -- speed the reaction and fire!

[@joeyjonson8637]

brake

[@rich1051414]

No break brake fluid :)

[@johnsumner2987]

I've always wondered what the actual reaction was doing. Thanks for explaining.

[@jesuschavez8417]

Chemistry is growing on me no cap. It's like magic or having superpowers!

[@ShadowDragon8685]

That unedited video's sounds were incredible. Terrible, but incredible! Like Satan's septic tank backflow. Why was the liquid on the ground... Well, "Heaving"? Or shimmering?

[@PyroDesu]

Looks like it was windy.

[@DrewskisBrews]

Reflections of the trees blowing in the wind.

[@Csc5csc5]

Way back in the late 80's and early 90's when I was in the Boy Scouts I remember they used to do something similar for outdoor ceremonies at night. There were 4 chemicals in a coffee can, each chemical layer separated by a layer of paraffin. The cans were placed in the center of a massive bonfire setup and if it was timed correctly, the fire would self-light at just the right time. I used to remember which chemicals were used, but I suppose at this point it wouldn't be too hard to figure it out. Anyway, seeing giant bonfires spontaneously self-light just before a ceremony was to begin is pretty cool when you're young and don't yet know how it works.

[@DesignedbyWill2084]

Yes! In the 80's at one ceremony my dad brought a laser from NASA (this was before your could buy laser pointers everywhere) and moved it around to get everyone's attention then pointed it at the unlit fire. The brake fluid/chlorine then did its job and everyone thought the laser lit the fire.

[@bigstud98]

@@DesignedbyWill2084 lol

[@KowboyUSA]

In wildfire fighting we use ethylene glycol injected into ping-pong balls containing potassium permanganate in some back fire/lighting operations. The reaction produces a great deal of heat and appears to be a little longer lasting. Of course, the burning plastic remnant of the ping-pong ball continues past the initial reaction.

[@5roundsrapid263]

John Ratko Ping-pong balls are actually made from nitrocellulose, which is very flammable. It’s an ingredient in gunpowder.

[@johnmccallum8512]

I doubt it as Nitrocellulose is an explosive all own it's own AKA Guncotton

[@5roundsrapid263]

John McCallum Yes, nitrocellulose. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKu8oKyOrLGSd5I

[@KowboyUSA]

_Ping pong balls are made of celluloid, which is the same material from which photographic film is made. Celluloid is a composition of nitrocellulose and camphor._ So they are not _plastic_ as I stated, nor are they "nitrocellulose," but rather a compound made from nitrocellulose and camphor.

[@texasdeeslinglead2401]

Very informative and honest. That's worth alot to me . There are so many disingenuous scientific folk today. It really is frustrating. Thank you for keeping it real.

[@frankbiz]

Great scientific explanation. Thank you! 👍🏻

[@scottsutton7989]

Always appreciate your little experiments great learning base for anyone who enjoys science,,,, cheers

[@TristisMiserabilis]

Yay NurdRage!!!!! Keep on keeping on good sir!!

[@alllove1754]

Thank you! I always wondered why this works, but too trivial to google, or my day too full of data flying in to remember.. anyways, ankther thumbs up, bc i love what you are doing. You emphasize the science, and thats a beautiful thing to behold.

[@__Theta__]

I used to watch these videos as a teen growing up I'm about to be 20 years old so happy to see a video in 2019 thanks for all the cool chemistry videos nurdrage!

[@jounik5728]

internet is worse thaan bible

[@__Theta__]

@@jounik5728 okay?

[@surajitbasak5260]

I always wait for your videos... Really enjoy it

[@mxcollin95]

Interesting man. Love to learn the science behind this stuff.

[@kleetus92]

I was one of the ones who had a container go boom in my hand in 97... Did this for years doing lab demonstrations. Complacency is what got me 28 stitches and some skin discoloration on my eyelid and arms. Word to the wise. ALWAYS have more brake fluid than oxidizer... otherwise it doesn't burn, it detonates. Last thing I said before disaster struck was wow, that looks like a cat turd in a litterbox...

[@ficolas2]

You made it angry

[@kentneumann5209]

I'm going to try the cat turd version. Detonate sounds like more fun. I won't stick around to comment on it though.

[@MadScientist267]

Great explanation

[@ITgamer35]

Great video as always

[@grainthe2nd71]

Love how those end cards cover the reaction

[@ExplosionsAndFire]

Yess Nurd! L I G H T T H O S E F I R E S

[@2oswalds]

Thanks! Finally found an almost complete explanation. Its crazy to think though that even the forensic scientists dont know exactly what is formed from the PEG breakdown?

[@bryon764]

Thanks, Rhett and Link for this "water and marshmallows".

[@ROKinCullen]

We used to do this in boy scouts for the order of the arrow ceremony. A kid dressed like an Indian what pour a leather bag of pool shock into the top of a bonfire. On the bottom would be a giant Styrofoam cup of brake fluid. It was a really cool effect and really made the ceremony pretty awesome.

[@kentneumann5209]

How does any styrofoam cup survive on the bottom of a bonfire? At all?

[@chrisbrent7487]

In the late 80's and early 90's we used to put it in a sealed glass bottle and run. It would make a decent bang and send flame and broken glass everywhere.

[@pyromaniac000000]

Fire science, my favorite kind of science!

[@jounik5728]

methane collecter from human waste ur job

[@parentaladvisory66]

Codyslab had problems keeping videos like this up on YT. Good luck NR.

[@WWEdeadman]

For the same effect I like potassium permanganate + glycerol. That usually works faster too.

[@sciencemodelaboratory7298]

Spontaneous reaction.

[@the_starbyte9362]

Explosions and fire...this reminds me of why I chose to study chemistry. This kind of stuff gets forgotten when all chemistry classes teach you is a bunch of boring calculations

[@sevenproxies4255]

Should've gone with being a pyrotechnician instead. Usually licensed pyrotechnicians have permission to purchase the more interesting chemicals.

[@garycard1456]

It used to be different in the not-so-distant days before overly draconian health and safety, fear of litigation and chemophobia- school kids once upon a time were actively encouraged to participate in experiments involving the handling of more reactive chemicals. For example, concentrated acids or alkali metals. Allowing school pupils to handle these more reactive (and admittedly more interesting!) chemicals (under supervision and with safety protocols in place, of course) not only fosters an interest in chemistry which they might take up as a career, but it also develops at an early age the competent and safe handling commanded by chemicals other than relatively nonhazardous dilute acetic acid and bicarbonate of soda. During my undergraduate chemistry lab classes at uni (just a few years ago) I witnessed a girl being reduced to tears because she was expected to handle concentrated hydrochloric acid (probably for the first time in her life). I take it that she was used to the chemistry teacher doing demos with the more reactive/hazardous chemicals; I do wonder if she ever got the opportunity to conduct experiments with anything more reactive than sodium bicarbonate and dilute acetic acid. This is what chemophobia, overly draconian health and safety, and the watering-down of chemistry school curriculum does- it results in a reduced interest in chemistry as a university subject and career choice, and it also encourages incompetence when it comes to the handling of chemicals and laboratory techniques.

[@sevenproxies4255]

@@garycard1456: Can't say that I had very interesting chemistry classes myself. But through my own boyhood experiments with explosives, I did learn to take precautions. Like reading up on whichever compound I was playing with, the risks involved, doing things like lugging a heavy fire extinguisher to whichever remote place I was going to set off a charge. I also Macguyvered my own electric detonators, fashioned from a moped battery, copper wire and small springs (I noticed that when you applied a strong enough current to small springs, they would heat up until they glowed white hot, so sticking them in charges of smokeless powder could be used to set off some more stable explosive compounds) I wanted an electric detonator because I though scavenged firework fuses to be unreliable.

[@Dylan_Sterling]

First day of chemistry class in high school my teacher used propane bubbles to set my arms on fire.

[@seanbaskett5506]

NurdRage: I just had this very interesting idea. I've been mulling over different DIY designs for a rocket-powered bicycle. I'm not trying to set any land speed records, but this combination would (I believe) make a fun DIY short-burn rocket. It would basically be a steel pressure tube bent in the form of a cane, and the nozzle would be at the end of the "long end", facing backwards, with a conical DeLaval nozzle. The short "handle" end would be capped and welded shut. You would pour the hypochlorite granules in thru the nozzle throat, followed by the glycol-based brake fluid, which would both settle in the lower "cane handle" part of the motor. It would provide self-ullage of the prop mixture under acceleration, preventing it from sloshing and spitting out the nozzle end, as opposed to a straight horizontal tube design. I realize the ISP would be only a double-digit number. However, I believe with the proper nozzle throat ratio and sufficient propellant quantity in a strong casing, this could produce enough thrust to get the bike moving to a decent speed. It could also be tested in a straight tube, vertically mounted, with an upward pointing nozzle on a load cell to measure thrust. If you or anyone might have some data on this, please reply. I have only found that one .pdf article that describes the possible free-radical fragmentation that drives the reaction.

[@NerdlabsSci]

cool idea but don't die

[@adamwiess]

I wish you had gone into more detail on the reaction mechanisms. since you didnt mention chlorinated products im guessing CaCl2 is the final product for the chlorine and either the chlorine is not acting as an oxidizer or its only an intermediate? Also off topic but have you looked at eucalyptol / eucalyptus oil as a otc catalyst for sodium production? Its a cyclic ether but hydrolysis should yield a tert-diol. it also forms an adduct for easy purification.

[@stamasd8500]

I was looking at various essential oils compositions after the recent sodium videos, and 1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) attracted my attention. Especially since I have a big bottle of it here. But looking online and through my chemistry books, I haven't found any procedures for for hydrolyzing its internal ether bond. I have found in several places statements about its very stable nature, meaning that hydrolysis will probably not occur easily.

[@adamwiess]

I guess I just assumed that it should be easy to hydrolyze like simple ethers, I though maybe the bond angle strain would actually make it easier to hydrolyze, but I don't have much evidence to back that up. www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/11/19/ether-cleavage/ shows an SN1 method of hydrolysis for tertiary ethers maybe this would work? I plan to try it myself if you/nurdrage or someone else doesnt beat me to it. maybe doomed to fail but its worth a shot.

[@andrewkhchan]

Interesting video. Thx for sharing. I used Brake Fluid Dot 4 but didn’t get reaction with flame 🔥 except for some thick smoke 💨!!! Why ? Should I use Dot 3 instead??

[@googleeatsdicks]

Cool. It also produces the sounds of a laxative.

[@kirkc9643]

Please tell us what gasses are released. There does not seem to be any clear info online and some suggestions of chlorine, phosgene and other nasties

[@adamgrossman6833]

permanganate works as the oxidizer, too

[@A113Witness]

Portland thanks you sir

[@fiftysixcar5047]

Did this when I was 11 back in the 70s! Memories....

[@bigstud98]

so your 57 years now.

[@stamasd8500]

Huh it's the week of the flaming chemistry videos. NR doing pool chlorine/PEG and Nile Red doing hypergolic rocket fuel mixtures. My inner pyro is a bit satisfied. :)

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

I bet your neighbors just love you. 😃

[@H3nryum]

Can you use a powdered laxative PEG and the pool chlorine to cause the same reaction? Possibly have to add water or another liquid to the two powders

[@twocvbloke]

The unedited chlorine and brake fluid at the end there sounded like someone having a bad time on the crapper... :P

[@Gr00mp]

so what happens if you mix the brake fluid with the anti-freeze? Do you get a faster flaming reaction or do you get a slower smoking reaction or maybe something else?

[@karmakazi219]

If you are using the pure (laxative) powdered form of PeG, will the reaction happen more quickly?

[@mxcollin95]

Cool video. So just curious...how did you clean that crap off the concrete?

[@timothyconnet9873]

Does the reaction occur with an aqueous solution of Ca(ClO)2? Does the concentration control the rate? Long time ago I read that the time delay changes based on concentration. Thank you.

[@warmonger12z]

This reminds me of the reaction between glycerine and potassium permanganate - just as surprising when it goes, too

[@josephhutchins2919]

Lol nice pour (@1:12). I wonder if mixing antifreeze with the PEG would lower the activation enough for it to work with regular bleach instead of needing pure hypochlorite powder?

[@ianbottom7396]

@NurdRage would the reaction work by substituting the brake fluid with PEG laxative & water?

[@hpekristiansen]

I dare you to lick the pavement in front of NurdRage's house.

[@davesulphate4497]

If you diluted the reaction could you prevent runaway reaction so that the ethylene, formaldehyde and and acetaldehyde could be obtained without risk of fire?

[@copagoy]

Could you please do a video on how electro plate with tungsten and titanium

[@TheFurryHypothesis]

How much does the viscosity of PEG effect the speed of the reaction? Seems like it would make it take longer to diffuse between dry reagent particles, vs a thinner liquid like ethylene glycol.

[@monkofmayhem1373]

I wonder if using a mixture of brake cleaner and antifreeze would combine the features of both. I.e. the antifreeze quick reaction acting to accelerate the brake cleaner reaction. Thoughts anyone?

[@buckstarchaser2376]

Could used brake fluid substitute for antifreeze in the 2,4 Dioxane experiment? It would be nice to recycle it, since it is said that yearly replacement is advised, due to: "it picks up water and turns into acid".

[@Psyadin2]

Would a small amount of anti freeze in the brake fluid speed up the reaction without boiling over?

[@BigBrotherMateyka]

What gases are emitted during the combustion of calcium hypochlorite and polyethylene glycol?

[@demandred1957]

I wonder if there would be a way to capture and purify the ethylene gas that's produced by this reaction instead of burning it. I would be interested in a lower cost more available option to purchasing tanks of ethylene gas for low temperature experiments.

[@UnitSe7en]

Now we're all on a list.

[@AussieChemist]

Do you think by switching ethylene glycol to propylene glycol will have a higher chance of ignition since The BP of which is higher?

[@SaberusTerras]

I was wondering the same as well, if the slight differences in the chemical composition don't somehow interfere with the process.

[@calebking278]

Do you think this would work with Polyethylene Glycol (PETG) 3d printer filament?

[@johng6283]

I wonder what triethylene glycol would do. It has a boiling point around 550 and autoignition temp around 700. Wonder if that would impact the reaction time and violentness.

[@StevePotgieter]

Don't mess with this. I know of a few kids who got badly burned by playing with brake fluid and pool cleaner. As mentioned in the video it looks like nothing happens at first so at first you think nothing happened then you come to look and it goes off in your face. The ones who know about the delay are lulled into thinking they have time, like a fuse so they think it's safe to be around when it's first mixed. Thing is the "time" could be a min or a few seconds. This is how a few kids got burned at my Hschool.

[@TheRantingCabbie]

What about drain cleaner which is sodium hypochlorite? I know sodium is not in the same group as calcium. Will it work or does it have to do with the covalent bond and the oxygen wont pull away?

[@dudemanmanguy1957]

I’m still curious about the explosive reaction myth busters refused to air on tv I wish someone could find out and make a video on it.

[@Tryin2FlyII]

I never knew of this reaction very interesting to say the least but what is the after math or by-product that looks some what like ash ? is it a form of charcoal?? could it be used else where? Thanks for the info I am glad you broke down the reaction so we know what is actually happening---- Two Thumbs up!!

[@psycronizer]

not to mention the brake fluid gylcol has more ether bonds, R-O-R that contain a lot of energy, more than an O-H bond so that also explains why there is more activation energy to generate further oxidation pathways.

[@YahsServant07]

What happens if you cap it off inside of a mason jar or something similar? Does it explode? Would be cool if you did a video

[@cedders]

Can you use PEG powder (the purified version for consumption) with the calcium hypochlorite? Or would dissolving it in solution be necessary?

[@backscan3030]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@GMCLabs]

I mixed PEG and KClO3 together and tried to light it. The stuff would not burn.

[@cedders]

@@GMCLabs that wasn't the question

[@pyrusrex2882]

THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT BIKE ROCKET PROPELLANT! I've been trying to see if anyone has tried something like this. Take a U shaped steel pipe, and mount it so both ends of the U are pointing backwards. Put a cap on the bottom end and a nozzle on the top end. Pour the propellants in the nozzle opening, and let them run down and settle in the bottom end. It would act as its own ullage motor, keeping the propellants seated together under acceleration, which keeps them from sloshing out the nozzle, and voila! The world's simplest hypergolic hybrid rocket.

[@kadenlarson9992]

so what about sodium hypochlorite? or potassium hypochlorite? would they react with the brake fluid and/or antifreeze?

[@mealex303]

What if you mix both dot 3 and anti freeze and add it would it be faster and burn?

[@marcandreservant8824]

DOT4 brake fluid is similar to DOT3, but it contains additional borate esters to prevent boiling (gas is compressible, so the brake pedal would sink to the floor and you would crash). Would the boron in DOT4 produce a green flame? That would be awesome!

[@stamasd8500]

It might produce a little bit of green, but I suspect that would be drowned in the large amount of yellow-orange caused by the calcium.

[@Billbobaker]

will this also happen with antifreeze? Polypro.

[@HomemadeChemistry]

Is this related to the outcome of the reaction of Glycerine and KMnO4?

[@garycard1456]

I'd imagine it is a similar principle: the involvement of free radicals, breakdown of the glycerine into simpler and more reactive organic molecule fragments in intermediate steps.

[@jogandsp]

I don’t think so. In this reaction it seems that the chlorine is causing the breakdown into smaller products, but atmospheric oxygen is doing the oxidizing. In the KMnO4 and glycerin reaction I think KMnO4 does the oxidizing

[@CyraxCZ]

Would this reaction work with liqiud calcium hypochlorite??

[@mxcollin95]

So what’s the best chemical to use to clean up the aftermath?

[@xenoxaos1]

Will temperature affect the speed of ignition?

[@aboss0206]

Would this work with sodium hypochlorite?

[@bashkillszombies]

"Don't drink brake fluid." _CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!_

[@95rockanglez]

so... if you put the brake fluid and wait a set amount of time then put antifreeze, would the reaction become bigger? (or rather more volatile)

[@ToonBowserJr]

In theory could this reaction be cooled to prevent it from igniting? Could you allow the PEG to fully decompose and then extract the decomposition products for use in other reactions?

[@jaideepmahapatra5933]

yes but it would take a lot of time.

[@shazamshazamski4490]

Cool. Another polyol (multi ol anyways) and oxidizer hypergolic reaction.. Curious to know how many other combos with household chemicals exist.. Well KMnO4 can hardly be called household in North America anymore. Also I believe it should work. A video on CHCl3 from Acetone and a conc. soln. of Ca(ClO)2 as opposed to regular bleach. Not sure how much cooling will be required. The bleach just leaves a lot of dilute waste to deal with.

[@99_ai_]

Where can I buy pool chlorine? Hardware stores or any supermarket?

[@jerradn]

Would higher molar weight polyethylene glycol have a longer delay and more intense reaction than brake fluid? I've seen MW 8,000,000 stuff out there...

[@Ahamshep]

So could this reaction be controlled to isolate the Ethylene, Formaldehyde and Methanol?

[@thrdel]

What happens if you help ignite the antifreeze/chlorine reaction ?

[@ants114]

On a similar topic, there's a old welders warning, chlorinated brake cleaner and welding is supposedly a deadly mix. Any insight into the reaction going on?

[@danielself5560]

Tetrachloroethylene decomposes in flame to phosgene gas. So do chlorofluorocarbon refrigerants like Freon.

[@noahpeszel168]

I'm surprised nobody's done the adult version of baking soda and vinegar volcano with brake fluid and chlorine

[@whatevernamegoeshere3644]

I wonder if this could be kept cooler. Maybe EG and pool chlorine could be used to make formaldehyde and such when it is not accessible to someone (It is a horrid idea though as the change of a thermal runaway are ridiculously high)

[@5roundsrapid263]

DOT 4 or 5.1 fluid could be used; they are also glycol-based. However, they’re more expensive and harder to find.

[@pyrusrex2882]

THIS COULD MAKE A VIABLE ROCKET PROJECT. If that mixture was poured into an appropriately strong pressure vessel with a nozzle (in generous amounts), it could be used as a crude, short burn rocket engine. With an appropriate constriction ratio in the throat as compared to combustion chamber/nozzle geometry, you'd get thrust from the gas expansion. I'm not sure if you would get flames from afterburning with atmospheric oxygen outside the downstream of the nozzle, or if it would jet out white "smoke". If the latter was the case, a windproof torch could ignite the aldehydes and ethylene as they exit. A simple "pipe" engine would have to fire vertically to avoid sloshing everything out the ass end, but you could bend it into a candycane shape and mount it to the ass end of a bicycle. The long end of the candycane would have the nozzle and be above the short end, and the "U" bend and short end down would be the holding chamber for the mixture. Under acceleration, it would seat the propellant mix against the cap of the short end, acting as its own ullage motor as a bonus, and keeping the unreacted parts of the mix from sloshing anywhere. Any thoughts?

[@danamulter]

Hi, what are the leftover byproducts? What's in the sludge?

[@orionriley7947]

Meth i think

[@joeestes8114]

Is this similar to potassium permagnet and glycerin?

[@marcusmoulia639]

does it work with 100% calcium hypochlorite as well??

[@pici24]

if they create free radical... what if you mix it with water ? or add a small amount of the mix in water.. will that start a chain reaction in H2O molecules to disociate ? .. wich also goes to a chain reaction by creating more free radical.. can you make a video with this setup ? (break fluid + pool chlorine + water )