The Science of Losing Fat and Keeping Muscle | Dr. Mike Israetel

[@Burkhimself]

If Dr Mike doesn’t give Dr Lyons a monster workout for his RP channel, I will be extremely disappointed 😭🙏🏼

[@Rohan-es4rd]

Lost 50 pounds in the last 5 months and my primary source of information was Dr. Mike. Highly recommend his youtube channel, it covers practical real world empathetic advice and tips to handle fat loss and muscle growth while also being engaging and entertaining by being a chaotic comedic goblin.

[@LilithBlack-s4y]

Agree! His work out ideas will bring you to next level! I love this guys!

[@Jakeandbakex]

Good work. That’s a good pace

[@kane6529]

Tren and glp-1 goblin 😈

[@heydisiegel375]

😂😂 nice description

[@bryanguzak2251]

I lost 40lbs over 6 months, NOT listening to Dr. Mike (wish I had found him sooner) and have now spent the last 2 years putting the lost muscle mass back on. Was a longer road for sure. Listen to Dr. Mike!!

[@Philusteen]

I'm 57, 6'4" and about 240 this morning - was about 325 this time last year, and over 350 during covid. The only thing I'd really add to this conversation is that results matter more than the specific levers you pull. For me, those levers have been less about carbs vs. fats and more about gut health, muscle focus, and time spent not eating. Again - for me - hunger control is much more achievable by keeping focus on a more ketogenic fermented food / high protein standard day, with at least two days of weight training weekly as non-negotiable.

[@flaviomesquita1761]

Indeed. I've got the very same opinion about it. For me, I've got my results better and easier when I go keto and fasting, because it gets somehow easy to follow the diet and control hunger.

[@philipabraham90]

This guy is so jacked. Even his blinking muscles think every blink is a rep. Such powerful blinks. Blink GOAT

[@tinaferr]

He's juiced to the gills which he's thankfully so transparent about but it's important to keep in mind when you're admiring his body. Obviously he works very hard and is brilliant at designing his program too but yeah

[@johningham1880]

Fast concentric, slow controlled eccentric

[@heydisiegel375]

😂😂😂

[@anthonys7311]

FULL ROM blinking

[@Mr_NB628]

@@tinaferr I am in total agreement that steroids built his physique, but depending on when this was filmed, he is currently off steroids at about 200 mg of test a week which according to him puts him at about 1000 ng/dL which is within normal range for testosterone

[@jep3305]

You've gotta love Dr. Mike. Thanks for doing this. Explicit language? Just a natural guy - no pun intended…

[@Mr_NB628]

17:15 “I’ve heard” shout out to Greg 😂

[@HH-gv8mx]

Perimenopause is no joke. I’ve always been an avid runner and have been active and lean up until about 3 months ago when the days got shorter and due to weather I just stopped running. sudenly put on 11 lbs, even though I eat the same, I have zero energy or motivation to force myself to do at home hiit or sprint against this windy crappy weather. I am not getting enough sleep, tired all day, drinking too much coffee hoping it will give me that burst of energy I need to melt this sudden unexpected fat belly off.💥 But nothing is workin. Just tired and fat. 😞

[@Ccsford82]

Love his sense of humor & super calming voice! This advice was so help, especially the last part about going back to maintenance when you reach deficit fatigue - thank you so much!

[@elperrocovero]

But hers sucks

[@Ccsford82]

@@elperrocovero No need to be mean tho.

[@elperrocovero]

@ why cause she’s a woman?

[@lucashenderson703]

Im currently following his advice, I've lost 85 pounds this year and it's been so motivating to prove i can keep the weight off before I continue to lose more.

[@Ccsford82]

@@lucashenderson703 WOW congrats! That's incredible. You should be so proud of yourself!

[@asp6415]

The man can explain anything understandably and entertainingly.

[@LatifaMousli-lo2jr]

I've come to realize that I struggle with carbs in the sense that they do not work for my satiety. I keep to lean meats and proteins, healthy fats, and greens, fruits and vegetables to make up most of my carbs and fiber intake. If I am getting enough protein and fats, than I don't feel as much the need for potatoes, wheat by-products, etc....I will still have potatoes once or twice every 15 days or so, or when I really want them.

[@JohanFitFoodie]

Potatoes definitely are a great filling carb source 🥔

[@scottmitchell1974]

Interesting! I'm almost exactly the opposite.

[@MCCFinanceCoordinator]

I love Dr. Mike! I am down 108lbs and watching his videos have kept me going.

[@cindysye8047]

After losing 50 pounds in about 8 months the just cycling the same 10 pounds for almost 10 months -the diet fatigue is real. I lost the weight mostly with 1200 calories, super clean protein + veggies and walking 1 hour a day, now I'm looking to lose the last 20 - 30ish with doing more of a recomp build muscle/lose fat way. Hearing someone talk about the diet fatigue is so validating. I've been beating myself up because I just haven't been able to get back to the super clean low calorie I was in for so long and now I'm realizing it's OK to take a bit to live life, build back some muscle for a bit before I jump back into doet mode at a more moderate calorie deficit.

[@drr1981]

AHHH SO EXCITED FOR THIS LOL! DR MIKE AND DR LYON

[@agnesjuhasz7715]

I think I am in love with his voice❤

[@mayrakennedy6200]

Dr. Israetel 👏👏 prep is different every time 👏👏 no joke. Appreciate the honesty bc some make it sound like a prep is sooo easy

[@alcott122]

The fact that nobody talks about censored book called The 23 Former Doctor Truths by Lauren Clark really gets to me. Always loved people like Rachel,she opens our eyes

[@lukag3155]

Thanks for sharing this

[@lukag3155]

I heard about that book before

[@GMGFORCE1]

Dr. Gabrielle, Dr. Mike, Dr. Layne and Menno are my go to’s for all things fitness and nutrition personally. As a 65yr.old dude I’m still staying tuned up with all their combined expertise.The Best! 🇺🇸

[@ahmadjamalmughal47]

Oh damn I saw dr mike's first appearance a while back, I'm glad he is here in person this time, thank you for inviting him Dr Lyon

[@elementsportedmonton3608]

There is another population that often doesn't get their steps in. I remember going to a talk by retired pro cyclist Tyler Hamilton. He described a typical cyclist's non-exercise activity (during active training season) this way: never walk when you can ride; never stand when you can sit, never sit when you can lie down. This is a fun example of a case where blanket statements like 10,000 steps a day isn't relevant. When I've been training for Ironman triathlons, unless it's run day, I might not get in 10,000 steps but I might get in 4k in the pool and 100k on my bike. Relatives will still recommend that I get in 10,000 steps because 'sitting is the new smoking." Unfortunately, we've become too lazy to measure caloric expenditure without dummied-down references aimed at the moderately active (or inactive) general population. A big issue with all of this - fitness, diet, health - is we've trained ourselves to not use our brains either. It's not just our muscles that are atrophying. Podcasts like this are great exercise for the mind. Thank you so much for this!

[@kattatis1155]

Thank you both! Learning a lot! Working on my weight loss and dealing with perimenopause at the same time.

[@DeeFitnessLifeBze]

I'm dealing with peri menopause and muscle mas loss if I don't work out😢😢 which now is harder

[@HH-gv8mx]

Perimenopause is no joke. I’ve always been an avid runner and have been active and lean up until about 3 months ago when the days got shorter and due to weather I just stopped running. sudenly put on 11 lbs, even though I eat the same, I have zero energy or motivation to force myself to do at home hiit or sprint against this windy crappy weather. I am not getting enough sleep, tired all day, drinking too much coffee hoping it will give me that burst of energy I need to melt this sudden unexpected fat belly off.💥 But nothing is workin. Just tired and fat. 😞

[@batesfusion]

It is insanely refreshing to hear these 2 praise the fact that glp1 peptides have a place in the modern world.

[@seattlegrrlie]

Losing to normal lean is very different than getting down to very low body fat. People see these crazy skinny bodies on shows, in movies, and they think they want that. They don't realize that most Hollywood people are miserable, hungry, moody, stressed. Get healthy, not super lean

[@JillCao]

agreed❤ focusing on building muscle and maintaining a healthy body fat percentage is way more sustainable

[@Arternis]

Since I am following "Dr Mike's fad loss diet" I am really sustaining ❤

[@brianspace7344]

Took me years and lots of work to learn what is summarized here - just perfect ty

[@carinarother6072]

This was the podcast that I needed to accompany me on my glp1-journey. Thanks for putting all this incredibly thorough and valuable information into one talk. My ask: Could you do an episode on glp1 and pregnancy? From my experience, a lot of users are women of reproductive age like myself who are simultaneously thinking about weight loss and starting/ growing their family. My research so far is saying that I should be off the meds for at least two months before conceiving again. What's the evidence of glp1 before/ during/ after pregnancy? Especially since it's active in your body for so many weeks after the last injection. What about weight loss maintenance throughout that window between getting off and get back on the injection? What about micro dosing to support your weight maintenance? What do we actually know about intrauterine effects of glp1? Would really REALLY appreciate an episode on those questions. Thank you!!

[@erickhoustonian]

great advice on loosing weight in phase approach to counter diet fatigue, thank you❤

[@jamiaburchamcnhp8712]

He lost me on diet sodas, are not harmful. It’s literally tested and proven that aspartame is a neurotoxin and affects your nervous system. I personally thought I had lupus until I cut all aspartame out of my diet and started walking normal (without tremor) again.

[@alelectric2767]

Better than the regular sodas.

[@lisaprater-bd7hc]

Best information I've heard in a podcast

[@aleksandratregub9846]

Only Mike worthy that much commercials. Great info as always ❤

[@dreambeliever3652]

This was a great podcast. Thank you.

[@tmarkovski]

If you need 2 hours to make a point for fat loss being simple…

[@Sundayafternoonbp]

Omg this might be my gym nerd dream podcast

[@thedeanalex]

I love how she tries to "put out the fires" ignited by Mike's almost cancel-worthy humor by saying "he's joking guys, he doesn't mean it"!

[@musicclasstube220]

Anyone who has listened to him already knows his sense of humor- and if you haven’t, hopefully you’re smart enough to pick it up quickly 😜

[@ethio5184]

Dr Gabrielle, you deserve more credit keep the good work.

[@charlottewilliams807]

Thank you so much !!!!!! I am in the middle of a 3 hour trip and found this while looking for something to listen to on the road. I have been on Zepbound for 8 months and lost 16 pounds and was getting discouraged but started Keto and intermittent fasting and am losing nicely while taking the shots which help me with cravings and appetite suppression. Great combo. I wanted to keep working out with my new calorie deficit but was like I could not get my butt up to do it and just had no drive to. Wondered what was wrong, your explanation of how the body tells you to stay put when you really cut calories and carbs is soo what is happening to me. I am glad to know what is going on and what I need to do. I was told to do 10k steps but was. Along excuses not to and now I will and get in my gym to get back to my weight lifting. Thank you so much for your expertise and sense of humor Dr. Mike. I loved this!!

[@HH-gv8mx]

Does your insurance cover zepbound? I need it. This perimenopause is no joke. 😞

[@Ematuresco]

Unfortunately no talk about the downsides and dangers of those GLP/GLI drugs.

[@jazzyj5236]

Just the podcast I needed for my morning.

[@Pilarfitvegas]

Best interview- so much common sense

[@frankquinn6872]

You can use something like MFP to give you a ballpark starting number (it’s never going to be particularly accurate with labels allowed to up to 20 % inaccurate and the fact that people misreporting their food intake by 20% on average ). It does give you a starting point and then make changes based on changes in body composition (or lack of changes).

[@RedWazzies]

“You look Jacked… not very tanned, but jacked” 😂 Greg Doucette video incoming 🎉

[@dad3562]

Two of my greatest KZbinrs.

[@NIYA-7]

I love you Dr. Lyon your the best. Your so encouraging

[@bobz4968]

Fat loss made simple, and in only a two hours explanation. Lordy

[@mayrakennedy6200]

Dr. Lyon, how about people that don’t eat all day but night time comes around and they eat everything they can get a hold on. Then go to sleep. In reality, they could be eating 1,500 calories in one meal but then nothing gets used for energy… could that be causing them to gain weight? I have clients that tell me, I only do 1 meal at night 🤔 I can’t figure this one out…

[@dczech4138]

Yes and no. Calorie timing doesnt really matter if they are in really in deficit. So either they are not tracking properly or they NEAT or any activity is dropping like crazy, so their burn a lot less calories. Another think could be that they dont eat enough protein, so they are losing muscle and gaining fat.

[@1s_that_a_j0j0_reference]

More likely they’re over eating bc they’re super hungry at that point. Your body will use your fat stores during the day then it will store the excess at night after you eat.

[@stuappleby6571]

Two of the best!

[@dinomiles7999]

Only time will tell. Let's see how long HE lives ?

[@mjdean89]

76 years old

[@dinomiles7999]

@@mjdean89?

[@tinaferr]

He's been on heroic doses of roids by his own admission but he's also extremely intelligent so I'm curious too

[@mjdean89]

@@tinaferr well apparently he’s retired so basically all he’s gonna be doing is testosterone. I’m sure he’ll do a few cycles here and there. Some people it affects worse than others

[@kirbydunagan914]

100% about the process. If you could press a button and achieve your desired results, the rest of the world would press the same button, and there would be nothing to differentiate you from everyone else.

[@LilithBlack-s4y]

Both at the top of their game because of their raw honesty and integrity, both to themselves and their audience! Really great show! THANK YOU BOTH!

[@Courtney.Rasnick]

Enjoyed this. Would love to hear a conversation with Keto Savage too!

[@teenafrench7236]

Oh great Mike! Sweet nutrition is next for me now my eating disorder is managed. I have the opposite problem now of not feeling like eating much so have to be picky about my options as I don’t want to waste my interest on non-helpful foods🎉

[@zachcarmichael699]

There's such a thing as being too skinny and focusing too much on physical health.

[@naomiklahn4623]

Really wanted to watch this, but the number of adverts is so OTT!😮

[@julesroussel3]

My two favorites! Great collab.

[@adamr3922]

You two are awesome!

[@roberthodges6401]

Ok I am confused I thought Dr Lyons is in New York not Texas ?

[@MrShlangman]

Love you both

[@TyannSanchez09]

Love Love Love this podcast! Both are amazing and together even more so. So I’m at minute 42……is Dr Lyon saying she is low fat??? I always thought she was higher fat! I’m just curious as to clarity on that!

[@paddy3622]

short cuts? taking a ton of gear is a short cut. can't wait for greg's response.

[@proceduralcoffee]

taking a ton of gear?

[@shelleymusleh439]

@@proceduralcoffeesteroids. And yes he takes lots of steroids and who cares.

[@bravowhiskey4684]

Go educate yourself. Mike is getting off gear and moving away from figure competitions. He’s been very clear about it, and about how you don’t just stop cold turkey or your testosterone levels will plummet. You have to step down and try to rebound, and some guys have to stay on TRT because of the hormonal damage done. I don’t really care if people use, as long as they are honest about it. He’s never lied about being fake natty. Greg has also done gear, no matter what he says. At some point, it does too much damage to the body and you either wise up, or die. He got wise to it a long time ago- and despite being absolutely insufferable, he is very knowledgeable.

[@tinaferr]

​@@bravowhiskey4684no judgement given his transparency but it's not something to ignore. It's secondary to his intelligence and hard work and doesn't diminish his knowledge but it's a part of the conversation. I appreciate so much that the talks about it, the good and bad effects. Love his content

[@happynjoyousnfree]

Pretty interesting around 51:00 talking about how some people get lazier when they eat. I was obese as a kid when it was only me and one other kid who were fat, back in the late 60's, early 70's. I 100% believe I have a genetic tendency to gain and hold onto weight.

[@debijohanning985]

Maybe the gut biome your mom passed on at birth or a possible head injury. I bit an electrical cord at 3 & then was on my first diet at 5 years old!

[@WarrenRedlich]

Love Doc Mike - oreos, half a reeses, cheeseburger, one cheeto - the man knows his junk food

[@lynnlind297]

The food industry make highly addictive (palative) food. Broccoli with lemon is palatable I like it a lot but I don’t want to overdose like processed food.

[@HH-gv8mx]

What about NAD supplements?

[@KirHavi]

HIs voice is too soft. He needs to talk into the mic.

[@Therealmathilda]

I've gotten a lot of great info from you both, thank you

[@xKarenWalkerx]

Same dude

[@s.a.6082]

Love them both

[@geoffnail2012]

Explicit Language... lol, it's Dr. Mike, it's kind of expected.

[@emerson-sheaapril8555]

I was watching a British show were they had 2 woman who said they never ate and couldn’t lose weight. So they put cameras everywhere and watched them for a week. At the end of the week it was shocking how many empty calories they ate and just didn’t realize it. I’m probably the same lol

[@missygee6155]

For me, I can count calories and eat within recommended allowance while eating all macros and gain weight. I can do keto and not count calories and lose weight.

[@orion9k]

Yea the only problem I have with keto is that I need to add a lot of salts and potassium or I feel easily sick without carbs for what ever reason

[@cayennepeppa707]

Speaking of success- It only took me about 15 years to become an overnight success. Yup. That about sums it up.

[@giuliam2531]

There is some explicit language... well there's Dr Mike ❤😂

[@mayrakennedy6200]

love the bullets analogy 😎 😂

[@MichaelLeopold1]

Two of my faves! It’s like peanut butter and jelly

[@blackstripened]

Haha this was a funny episode! Love seeing you two joking together.

[@omni1562]

No timestamps? Yikes

[@NinaT940]

🙏 thank you for being real about alcohol! I’m so sick to death of it being absolutely demonised on nearly every podcast I listen too. 😔 If I feel like a glass of bubbly or a cold dry white on the weekend on my deck I’m going to have it!!! I’m 53 roughly 20% body fat resistance train 5 days a week, plus 3 cardio sessions. I’m fit healthy, monitor and manage macros/ weight/ calaroies and it’s actually more stress to deprive myself. Plus I live in a wine region 🤷‍♀️😂 ❤ Dr Mike!

[@josiepatla2164]

I couldn’t agree with you more! I’m the same! Workout 5-6 days stay within my macros but WILL NOT give up my wine on weekends! Enjoy it way too much!!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

eliminate sugar and carbs

[@sethogrady9950]

Love this

[@JoakimIshmael]

There is a thing called recomping where you train and eat alot of protein 2 -3 grams of protein per pound of bw and even experienced lifters lose fat and gain muscle albeit the fat loss isn't crazy good.

[@JillCao]

Dr. Mike has talked about recomping on his channel in depth. He’s said that if the person is already lean, recomping tends to be harder than the regular cycles of bulking and cutting.

[@TheEccentricScientist]

Absolutely no evidence currently that 2-3 grams per pound of body weight is more beneficial than 0.80 -1.2 grams per lb. 3 grams per pound madness.

[@Themata]

Recorded recently?

[@jenniferfulljames1685]

At 61 and 10 yrs post meno, I have been stuggling with losing and slowly the lbs are creeping up. I workout with weights 3-4 times per week, walk 10000 to 12000 steps daily, 2x stretch sessions on top. I sleep pretty good but have this 50 yr old eating disorder that knocks on my door every couple of weeks. I know I need some hard core rewiring in this neuroplastic pathway of mine. I prob have about 30lbs to lose but would be happy with losing just 15! So frustrating! Thanks for the great info, might take my 1500 daily cals down to 1300 "again" what's an older gal to do? 😢

[@1s_that_a_j0j0_reference]

I have to recommend you try hiring a coach to lead you through a reverse diet. I know you’re in the older woman group, but I am maintaining my weight at 2000 calories/day and doing just about as much as you workout-wise! I had trashed my metabolism as well. But doing a steady reverse diet over the last 2 months has revved it back up. And now I’m not going to have to cut on 1100 cal/day anymore. I was skeptical too, but my own lived experience has shown me that it can be done. Maybe yours won’t be as high as mine, but even getting to 1800/day maintenance would be a win for you (assuming I’m reading what you’re writing correctly.)

[@souldoula7436]

Get your hormones checked and do HRT if needed!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

do carnivore

[@Sacarat]

Wow, that is me to a tee; except a man. 54, and 30 lb would put me at 15%ish fat. If I could give up the crazy snacking, I’d be fine. Best of luck.

[@paulh6101]

Omg did she say not very tanned! Somebody been greggin their doucette. Lol

[@theemperor4901]

1:35:51

[@JoeKickass324]

Mike is really not the best for weightloss, or longevity. He build muscles and that's it

[@jpx1897]

Well his special supplements do the building.

[@harleybfilms]

1:17:12 This made me crack up 😂

[@joerockhead7246]

awesome. thanks,

[@claudettesechler149]

Such a great discussion and great questions. Maybe being a bit more professional to go along with all the knowledge

[@Pops2]

Mike says we eat too much......as I'm finishing my 3rd plate of food 😅.

[@Awill1875]

the vertical diet is superior to every influencer diet, basic science and balance is key

[@mjdean89]

What do you consider an influencer diet?

[@Awill1875]

@mjdean89 any fad diet, carnivore, keto, vegan etc

[@joe1071]

Holy shit Dr Mike, that cheesy ass smile in the thumbnail is hilarious! Much love from one ashkenazi Jew to another

[@annettebroomfield1767]

Great info. But if you have been obese for sometime this doesn't offer the solution.

[@richardmiddleton7770]

Same principles apply, it'll just take longer. In fact, the more obese you are, the faster you can initially lose weight.

[@annettebroomfield1767]

@@richardmiddleton7770 there's the whole set point theory and then the impact of blood sugar driving cravings.

[@johnwebb4292]

1.33g/kg is approximate similar to 0.6g/lb Never understood why people say... I don't use the metric system but mix metric and imperial in Grams per pound?! 😂

[@kevb.1791]

You should interview Remington James Gabrielle Lyons the protein Queen lwould ove his protein recipes Dr Mike likes his Anabar protein bar You could have a taste test the one called death by peanut butter sounds good to me He is located in Houston

[@jonathanwynne6925]

wait he's competing again?

[@darlafortner284]

Love Dr Mike!

[@HaHaroni]

If you've known so much since 1960, why are the benefits of carnivore being discovered now?

[@Likesforhire]

I follow a 100% carnivore diet, focusing on beef, butter, bacon, eggs, seafood, some chicken, and pork. I consume roughly 2,500 to 3,200 calories daily, with around 200 grams of fat, 240 grams of protein, and under 5 grams of carbs. Let me tell you, I’m still hungry all the time! It could be because I’m on TRT, work out a lot, and walk 10k steps a day.

[@emmanaden203]

Sounds very expensive!

[@w8losspros]

Try to remember all of this revolving around being “jacked”. Not for avg. folks.

[@sethogrady9950]

Couldn’t ask for better people to speak about this topic

[@Erikpdx]

"When an economist says GMP" ...GDP?

[@ryanmcgonigle1118]

hearing that mike is a big fan of dana white hurts my heart a bit lol

[@mooretim27]

The thumbnails for all these vids have Mr. Mike wearing the creepiest-ass smile I’ve ever seen. Is he in tren withdrawal?