The Science of Obesity | Dr. Layne Norton

[@ryno3888]

I’m a huge fan of your podcast, but you have to let the man answer the questions. If you constantly interrupt his answers, it is so much harder for us to follow along.

[@cindyhughes4599]

100% agree

[@GabrielleLyon]

well, see, Layne sometimes needs redirection! Thank you for the input.

[@shameermulji]

Amen!

[@s.a.6082]

But if you watch Layne a lot you'll know he has a hard time letting people get a word in too lol she's being more assertive probably because she knows he won't let her finish

[@jarren32]

​@s.a.6082 that and because they're friends I'm sure the dynamic is different lol

[@DJEzraLive]

I'm not sure I can make it through the interview because of the incessant interrupts from Dr Lyon, it's a bit ridiculous to be honest. ask a question, get a response then ask for clarification. that's how normal adults converse. To clarify, my brain doesn't process interruptions well, and there is valuable Intel here. they also know each other, but when the interruptions do happen, makes it very hard for me to follow along.

[@MelissaOliphant-s6r]

So while I really enjoy your insight, if I can just offer one constructive criticism comment it would be to let Lane finish his sentences without interrupting him.

[@Chris_P_]

Yep, I was here to say the same thing.

[@lisinbondi1240]

And I am here to comment that research shows that people notice women ‘interrupting’ more that men because it is normalized for me. They talk over the top of each other and their dynamic is fun

[@Chris_P_]

@ They did have a good rapport, but I still wish she’d have let him finish his sentences. She hosted him on her podcast so we could hear his insight on various topics. Most podcasts I listen to are hosted by women and I’ve never noticed or been bothered by the interrupting in a manner like this. Just because there’s a ‘study’ saying something doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to be bothered by it.

[@adunn7272]

@20:35 Gabriella is talking energy balance (calories in and calories out) and says that calories in is “pretty streamlined.” I think we have actually the opposite problem with studies in terms of clinical measurement. What seems to be clear is our ability to measure energy expenditure per indirect calorimetry and direct calorimetry. What is incredibly unclear, even with all of the advances and modern studies, is how much energy we are actually taking in and how that is aggregated within our individual body composition, genetics, etc.

[@rgh622]

Diets fail because apple pie exists....

[@richardmiddleton7770]

And granola!

[@tenebrae77]

This

[@FreeKekistann]

😂

[@pattersonellen]

And cheesecake

[@FreeKekistann]

@ 😂

[@kerryobrien71]

Gabrielle, this is the best podcast you have done. Not because of the topic/content area but because it covers the discussion of evidence and the need to follow the scientific method, and principals of scientific evidence. Layne is a great guest and I follow his channel too, because he is always trying to be evidence based. Great to see the relationship you have together as well and the history you have together.

[@stefanallard3084]

Yet the cant see the difference between a pharma sponsored study and a regular one. As long as it got a double blind placebo he dosent care If pfizer made it or a university

[@GabrielleLyon]

Thank you!

[@Photogenic_World_of_Art]

That's one brilliant guest. Please invite him again. i think he has more to say! Thank you!

[@WarrenRedlich]

Would love to hear your thoughts on the following: It seems like cardio fitness along with strength and muscle mass are the keys to healthy longevity. Body fat is also a concern. How does all this apply to someone who succeeds in building cardio fitness, strength and muscle mass, but struggles or fails to reduce body fat? I'm doing very well at the first two, but I'm near 30% body fat and not making progress at getting even to 25% (male, age 58). Is it that important to lose body fat if everything else is going well? Should I sacrifice muscle mass to get lower body fat?

[@disandars]

This might help. Up to 30% body fat is fine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/anS6Y3awjL6qoZY

[@carolinemarie44]

Increase your meat consumption, if you're not. If you are carnivore, go easy on the butter.

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

Warren, it seems like you are doing great already. But if you still want to lose some body fat, try to lower your intake of calories somewhat with the carbs and the fats, while keeping intake of protein up. Personally I find it easier to decrease fat intake, but you'd have to look at your specific food intake.

[@janenelaemmar6203]

I’m so flipping excited for you two to talk!!!!!

[@nancywright2680]

Daaang what a couple brilliant people. This was such a pleasure to listen to them speak .

[@peachhipgirl75]

Gabrielle, I love your podcast, but I can’t imagine getting all of the sponsored things in it. Everything is so expensive, even with a discount! Do your research, people. There is a way to get in your nutrients without paying expensive prices. This is definitely a great interview! I think that everyone has a specific ideal carb threshold depending on age, activity level, etc. Your body will let you know! There are several things that can let you know that your body is having insulin issues. Protein is the most important! That is what you have to get right.

[@HLD0205]

AG1 propaganda

[@aliciub3253]

Thank goodness for the fast forward option!

[@katebruno9255]

Any research on creatine and breast cancer? As a dietitian specializing in eating disorders and exercise addiction I so appreciate your balanced view. Ps - I have been put into surgical menopause at a young age thanks to cancer and the struggle of no hormones is real - no sleep, weight gain, etc.

[@seattlegrrlie]

For me, weight loss required me to eat more. Eating 1400 calories made me exhausted, couldn't finish the bike ride. Feeding the bike ride had me riding further, had me feeling better after, had me moving more. I'm certainly not saying just eating more and laying on the couch is the solution, but you have to fuel your body or it just can't perform

[@thomassylvestro9041]

By far one of the best Podcast, I have seen , ever. So Awesome, two of the smartest people in this space. Will listen a few times.

[@ogonwaneri5553]

Haven't finished watching yet, but I am here to comment: love you both! So excited for this episode. 🙌🏿

[@ondrej1893]

Very little "science of obesity" was discussed that day. Science of obesity deals primarily with primary solutions to pathologically altered appetite - metabolic surgery and medications. Lifestyle is cool distant 3rd place.

[@joerockhead7246]

looking forward to this one. i'm surprised layne hasn't been on earlier.

[@MatBarbe]

Finally! I, for the longest time, wondered how come Dr. Lyon didn't have Dr. Layne Norton on her show yet, knowing they both had Don Leyman as adviser... Great one!!

[@GabrielleLyon]

We wanted to do it in person thats why!

[@johntravis7304]

@42:30 I need to see these metabolic tracer studies, this would be the only thing that gets me off carnivore (already lost 200 lbs doing keto/carnivore)

[@programking655]

I’ll post it below, basically what it shows is that consuming carbs doesn’t cause the carbs to be turned into fat, your body switches to burning the carbs and storing the fat if you’re in an energy surplus. Which basically makes sense, why would your body spend a ton of energy converting glucose into fats when it could simply burn the glucose and store the fat. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC185982/

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

Don't lie. Nothing will get you off of the carnivore absurdity. Nothing to do with evidence or studies anyway.

[@MariahAlexander-te5gk]

Concerning carb insulin model study , did they survey participants on hunger experiemced, energy levels, and was there a difference of muscle loss?

[@thetruthrenegade]

Wieghtloss is all mental. Confusion, stress, overwhelm,. We live in a time where people deal with 1000x more information than 20 years ago, to include everyone's different opinion on diet, training etc. When the mind is confused, the body is confused.

[@vall.zubkov]

Totally agree, and probably the best voice on KZbin around the psychological aspect of weight loss is Mario Tomic, he helped me a lot during hard times.

[@GabrielleLyon]

Totally!

[@TurdBoi666]

Bot comment

[@anamariaruiz4558]

Dr Luon. Thank you for this pod cast. My opinion about layne change a lot. He is very knowledgeable and also had a big heart. Thanks❤

[@garimabharti]

I so agree....I am waiting for Layne's answers but the lady keep interrupting him!

[@tm8383]

I really appreciate you both BUT PLEASE try a lagree “Pilates” (reformer) class and then tell us if it’s not strength / resistance training. Lagree is not stretching. It’s muscle fatigue with resistance.

[@hardlylast]

How do you progressively overload Pilates?

[@PinkelefantZ3]

Love this response! So true! I did both yoga & Pilates for years then covid hit and I started lifting weights at home with my husband. My body completely transformed! I was lean and long but now my muscles are more defined NOT BULKY. I get compliments on my arms all the time. I always wanted that from Pilates but never got it. Full range of motion + progressive overload + intensity + a high protein diet! I’m in my 40s and look better than I did in my 20s with great mobility and flexibility from full range of motion and good form.

[@tm8383]

@@hardlylast I’m new to this space and won’t pretend to be an expert but Sebastien Lagree (Legree reformer method founder) lists 8 ways that Lagree progressive overloads. (See below) I’d be very interested in a trial and response from Gabrielle or Layne based on this specific method because when they say Pilates and yoga is stretching that’s not accurate but it makes me think they’re only aware of more “natural” Pilates. In Lagree, muscle overload can be progressed by: -improving Form/Body alignment improving R.O.M. -slowing down the movement (Tempo) increasing Duration. Longer than a minute. -increasing the number of sets for a target muscle group (Sequence) -increasing the intensity- more work in the same time, i.e. reducing the recovery periods (Transitions) -Incorporating additional movement -Changing the position of the body to get more or less resistance from the same spring(s) -Adding and taking off weighted springs depending on the exercise.

[@tm8383]

@@hardlylast I’m new to this space so I won’t pretend to be informed, however the machine has springs with weights. The founder of large Methodist lists 8 ways in which his system allows for progressive Overload. A statement that Pilates is stretching is wrong when the lagree method is considered.

[@MaciekRabizo]

Cant get better guests than that 😁 Thank you

[@Philusteen]

You definitely can.

[@MaciekRabizo]

@@Philusteen No no you definitely definitely can not. 🤣😂

[@Philusteen]

​@@MaciekRabizoyes, you definitely can.

[@MaciekRabizo]

@@Philusteen no no no no no no no, you definitely can not, and one time more than you say you can forever and ever. Hope I matched your starting arguments sir. Enjoy your day and second place in our debate xD

[@johnhornbuckle693]

Who would be better?

[@katiuskasotomayor1285]

I had doubts about saying this but please let the person to finish answering the questions or their train of thought. There was not a single question that he could answered fully. Love the podcast but please let them talk.

[@wendymcgill7717]

I hope when I can lose some bodyfat my NEAT actually increases due to feeling better in general and increased energy

[@vall.zubkov]

It absolutely will 👌 at least it happened to me when I got below 12%.

[@reed4764]

Great guest but Highly frustrating conversation to listen to because she keeps interrupting him mid-sentence... Had to stop listening after 20 mins

[@pixietoes7331]

Tried to find information on the term obese resistant phenotype? Where can I find this definition

[@Amanda.c91]

It is indeed CICO, it is just that hormones influence that. So I’m with Layne on this one. One can for sure can get fat on carnivore diet. Add 2000 calories of butter to your steak and find out! But I’m a huge fan of very low carb super high protein style of eating anyways, keeps me super tight and fit and strong. Love love love it. Yay meat;hit gym

[@kristinfttb1577]

No discount for carbon app😞??? Enjoyed the talk regardless!

[@Yiayia3]

High carb low fat equals joint pain. And mental fog. High-fat low-carb equals sustained energy and mental clarity

[@JesseVueFitness]

Been waiting for this combo

[@swancakes]

Been waiting for this collab

[@TangoMasterclass]

Really hard to listen to. You are interrupting him constantly and while he tries to answer you will asked a next question.

[@Amanda.c91]

Dr Lyon, you gotta get Dr Anthony Chaffee on!

[@DeidraAnnOfficial]

I love Dr. Lyon but I feel she interrupts Dr. Norton a LOT in this podcast. It’s tough for him to finish his point because she cuts in so much 🤍

[@QuintonDolan]

Gabrielle saying “oh what’s that?” when Layne says whey is high in Leucine made me laugh.

[@GabrielleLyon]

Mom jokes

[@krispyasfck]

Why?

[@Chris_P_]

LOL same! We know she loves her leucine 😅

[@Jaylynn8]

My two favorite people to learn from.

[@katiesoerries4742]

Where can I get Layne's shirt

[@Physionic]

Looking forward to this one

[@Dmightymia]

My 2 favorites! So informative thank you 🙏🏽

[@GabrielleLyon]

Thank you!

[@karendiehl2963]

what are the drinks they are drinking in cans

[@rachael5752]

Once Dr. Lyon experiences perimenopause, she won't let people say stupid shit about women's health. It's not about calories. It's about all the perimenopause symptoms that cause you to live with exhaustion and in a state of sleep deprivation.

[@rachael5752]

@@iansleithYou are a man, just like the male speaker I am referring to.

[@GabrielleLyon]

I struggle with this - I have seen and worked on the studies... it is so variable for people. The science just isn't there yet

[@GabrielleLyon]

@@iansleith yes!

[@GabrielleLyon]

It is very tough for some women, for sure.

[@programking655]

It’s always about calories, weight gain is always and everywhere about calories

[@CoachedByKenny]

I do hope Dr Lyon’s is not 10% body fat as Layne suggested as this would be seriously low for a healthy female 🙏🏻

[@barrydiamond8629]

I really like Mark Sisson and his scheme of metabolic flexibility and exercise recs It’s at least concrete and can be done

[@Essentialoils4ujess-weagle]

I’d love to see you interview Dr. Ben Bikman

[@JamieWilder-nm5of]

Apparently, I am one of those psychos who loves butter in their coffee… And it is so delicious 😂

[@georgetosounidis5545]

Haha, me too. They don't know what they are missing :)

[@JamieWilder-nm5of]

@@georgetosounidis5545agreed 😊

[@Chris_P_]

@@georgetosounidis5545It’s tasty, but my LDL was skyrocketing.

[@aejiongco]

Invite Mary Ruddick to your show for her unique insights as an "ancestral nutritionist" and anthropologist. Her expertise in using traditional health practices to address neuromuscular disorders, infertility, and chronic diseases would bring valuable perspectives to your audience.

[@kinpatu]

Aspirin is an antiplatelet, not an anticoagulant. May not be pertinent to the point but technically accurate.

[@GabrielleLyon]

thank you

[@heartgrowsyoung]

FYI after 1hr 32 min : Lactoferrin is Not an immunoglobulin.

[@joshranowsky8083]

It's so hard to pay attention when the camera is on Dr. Gabrielle. She's stunning.

[@realtheresamarshall]

A bit much on the interruptions in this one

[@Burkhimself]

Man, I really love both of these experts but dang, my eyes were spinning like pinwheels a few times during this vid 😭😵‍💫 Little over my head 😂

[@rubygamboa6090]

Omg, I’m fangirling because I too am in Houston, TX Dr. Lyon! 😃❤ Loved the podcast as always!

[@GabrielleLyon]

Amazing!

[@jonathonmills3563]

I can’t believe you’re promoting C15. The studies are weak and discredited by impartial analysis ( Physionic for instance). All of the C15 studies have conflicts of interest, mostly conducted by the Fatty 15 woman. You need to vett your product endorsements better.

[@pattersonellen]

I like C15

[@GabrielleLyon]

Yes that is well taken thank you

[@GabrielleLyon]

@@pattersonellen I do is well

[@matthiaspriester2368]

I like Butter. 😉

[@scottobrien1289]

Let me break it down for everyone. None of these people in the " nutritional" space really know anything for sure. It is simply to complicated. Here's what you do. Try eating a high carb diet for a while and see how it goes. Then try a higher protein and fat very low or no carb diet and see how it goes. Then compare the two. Be your own study.

[@AliceFarmer-bg4dw]

No Body changes according to sunlight, sleep, age and other factors. We should all eat a species specific diet as animal in the wild.

[@scottobrien1289]

@AliceFarmer-bg4dw Yes bot

[@vall.zubkov]

Yes but get lean first and then experiment, not opposite 😎

[@CuriousJS]

This right here is exactly right. Everyone responds differently to various ways of eating. Psychologically speaking, people find various ways of eating easy to stick with or not. It’s important to understand this in order to find success.

[@shynggys_sadyk]

I call these two amazing professionals “The Ys” 😂

[@shynggys_sadyk]

@ fucking imposter!

[@lisinbondi1240]

Given some of the comments here I would love you to do a podcast on the topic of gender bias in communication. For example the body of research showing that people notice women ‘interrupting’ more than men because it is normalized for men. I really appreciate your collegiate dynamic and it was a great podcast. You are both excellent.

[@teedamusic1991]

Gis some time stampls plz 😃

[@GabrielleLyon]

Should be in the description

[@fittara7322]

Peanut butter, hummus beandip lean mmeatprotein and whole appleveggie cuts

[@bkkfilmdog]

So carnivore works?

[@programking655]

If you eat in a calorie deficit, yes. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea

[@AliceFarmer-bg4dw]

Layne is statin drug biased. We all have biases and Layne touts RCTs all the time. Let’s see the studies OTC CoQ10 supplements work in support of statin drug reduction I CoQ10.

[@laza6141]

1:06:55

[@johntravis7304]

@1:58:40 someday he will have balls to say "sorry, all sci. studies are based off money!" I'll keep waiting.

[@dmonk952]

30 something male mansplaining menopause with no idea how dramatically mental health is affected

[@hardlylast]

Mental health wasn’t the aspect of menopause that was being discussed

[@christinahek]

What? He basically said the key impact of menopause was stress and mental health.

[@Сомнойвсехорошо-ц1ж]

Doc please about coffee

[@GabrielleLyon]

what about coffee?

[@jennapotter3179]

Normally a big fan. But I found Dr Lyon so cringey in this podcast 🫣😬

[@jaylugo1715]

DR. Lyon, What is rule number 1?

[@fittara7322]

Diets fail because you dont eat 80 percent or better of foods like apples and balance fiber with some turkey or butter. But alsobecause you adefeat youself by thinking you can never ever eat apple pie in sensible portions or any food you enjoy you cant never eat ever. Just eat lots ofgood high quality protein to preserve or create hypertrophy. 1.2 1.5 and exercise butyou don have do brutal workout infact safe progressive exercise that you enjoy and that are aerobic and anaerobic strength harder more safe yet challenging workouts and mobiouty , and enjoy thibgs lije foam rolling, pilates Les Mills Core or likeit, yoga etc and NEAT hourly movement snacks if yiu have corporate jobsay two minutes anddontbe afraid to figiteathealthy nutrient dense stuff H20 yada yadayada and sleep decompress spend time with ❤ed ones becompassionate and empathetic toyiurself and others.

[@Hachiyuzu]

This podcast was 75% name and credential dropping

[@fittara7322]

Everyone who cares about the wellbeing others adcates of health pioneers in the field of wellbeing Dr Layne Norton Dr Gabrielle Lyon can work on an innitiave that isnt partisan to help Make The UnitedStates healthy again❤🇺🇸❤🇺🇸2024

[@harisfaiz3819]

Dr Gabrielle takes steroids right?

[@SHlELDS]

Pez dispenser degree layme norton

[@yvonnekiwior9633]

Perhaps you could talk about the ‘truth of insulin’, oh he doesn’t know anything other than calories. Too bad!

[@Itsmekvn]

The collab of don layman’s colleagues. Wow ❤

[@CryptoDude56]

again you need to interview Dr Ken Berry much better than this guy

[@jaishankarravindran2242]

Ageing is declining your challenge.

[@rosamoreno4794]

I would not like to argue with Layne, hence he is twice divorced. 💥 Homeboy needs to take a break from dating.

[@AliceFarmer-bg4dw]

He is a Statin drug user and therefore biased towards pharmaceutical over natural cures

[@hardlylast]

Asinine comment

[@alicedegraff9517]

Way over my head :(

[@GabrielleLyon]

What would you like to hear more of?

[@nicholeh1280]

I struggle with listening to Layne. He rarely gives a straight answer and his voice is grating. It's sad that he hasn't bothered to review studies on the impacts of menopause and chalked everything up to being tired and drinking more wine. 🙄

[@sherrioliver5083]

Agreed! He’s just cocky and I’m surprised Dr. Lyon respects him.😮

[@stewiecountry]

Wholeheartedly agree.

[@kerryobrien71]

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. This is a reasonably wide ranging interview that he may not have had a heads up on ahead of time, and it can take weeks to review all the relevant literature and he has and job and life that wouldn't allow that time commitment to something that is not of direct interest to him. No one can know everything about everything in an encyclopedic manner on the spot. And honest scientists know that there is rarely a straight forward answer to give in science as there are always additional factors/confounds to consider other factors, however, he takes an evidenced based approach to anything he does stand behind. What's his voice got to do with anything, would you like personal attacks about features of you as a human being that you have no control over? Some of us may prefer listening to David Attenborough's voice, but we would necessarily publicly critise someone for not sounding like him.

[@darlafortner284]

I noticed that too. Just say you haven't read the literature. The reality is most of the research he leans on (no pun intended) was done on men, not women. I am menopausal. I admit I am tired at the end of the day because I am in the gym at 4:50am 4 days of the week and hiking on the weekend. I stopped drinking alcohol 10 years ago, so that ain't it, anymore, probably was contributory when I was perimenopausal. Bottom line. Women's hormones are very different from men's and do effect physiology profoundly.

[@darlafortner284]

@@kerryobrien71 then he should say he doesn't know, respectfully.

[@mariad1151]

B4 I watch this, I'm chuckling to see what these skinny folks think they know about obesity. Maybe they think if you give up carbs, you'll become normal like Westman & Taubes tell it.😂😅😂

[@SawBlade11]

Nop, just give up eating a caloric surplus. Yes it’s hard but 100% doable

[@mariad1151]

@SawBlade11 uh huh, sure. Guess that's why, statistically, nearly no one can maintain weight loss in the long run. Taubes is a good read. Best I've seen though is Dr. Zachary Knight, a neuroscientist, on Huberman. You'll get the lowdown on our state of knowledge on obesity if you have a genuine interest in the subject. Best I've seen by far.

[@SawBlade11]

@@mariad1151 doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. That’s a lack of will power on their part not a lack of it working. Is it harder for others? Sure but doesn’t change the fact that eating in a deficit is the biggest lever to pull when it comes to losing weight

[@mariad1151]

@SawBlade11 that's a knee-jerk point of view. It's what we've been told. There is a lot more to it. Because one can lose weight by not eating doesn't mean the reverse. The body reduces the rate at which it burns calories for fuel when food is scarce. That makes great sense & I believe Lane Norton states that in this podcast. Science is catching up to the complexity. I recommend Taubes if you have an interest in the subject at all. Zach Knight will tell you the current state of the art. We are moving away from the outmoded idea you put forth, but changing what folks believe is quite difficult. Best luck to you.

[@SawBlade11]

@@mariad1151 ya it lowers by a small fraction. There is literally no other way to lose weight if you are not in a caloric deficit. You seem like the type of person who just makes excuses

[@scottpierce9195]

I love you Gab, but I cannot stand Layne... Biggest sellout ever.... Owned by big food and pharma.

[@AliceFarmer-bg4dw]

Yep

[@hardlylast]

What are you talking about?

[@GabrielleLyon]

Naw Layne is great, an acquired taste but never a sellout!

[@Itsmekvn]

What!? 😂

[@octavianandron9635]

Hahaha, you probably should stick to fung, berg or other charlatans. Layne ia far from being perfect but he knows his sht , so probably ur sad because he debunked some charlatan that u v been following. Let me guess it was a insuline zealot, If zealot or what?:))

[@charlesfuchs]

WHY Dr. Layne Norton so fat, he has a high body fat count

[@AliceFarmer-bg4dw]

What is his BF%

[@hardlylast]

Umm do you have eyes?

[@taylorwaenga833]

🤦

[@HeatherQ333]

Just stop it with this cutting edge science already. Being human isn't enough, eh??

[@chrisnick5792]

It could just be this interview but I wish he was a little more personable. I had to learn that it's hard to give knowledge away when your personality is stale. He didn't catch any of her jokes, the responses lacked core character. Maybe he was just nervous but I met the expert and not the person

[@theironforce3000]

This is a long time coming with this episode ! First Trump on Joe Rogan and now Layne with Dr. Lyon - quite the promising several days here on Earth 👏 That's very awesome you're now involved in the Carbon world as one of the advisors in the woman's health section 👍 Quite the full circle as you guys mentioned.

[@annaw1726]

Men have no idea about perimenopause and menopause. She's great but he has no clue.

[@programking655]

Except he’s right, there doesn’t seem to be a difference in calories burned before and after menopause

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

That's a ridiculous statement. Men can have expertise on this subject.

[@majicears]

Layne Norton always annoys me with his certainty

[@adventureric3904]

Waste of time . Super complicated, eat what we ate during the Ice age and you will be just fine 😂

[@Rositasparks]

Meat, a few plants and nuts….works for me

[@giuliam2531]

Ok so the fact that every discipline can be studied and get complicated makes it a waste of time because there's people who don't understand...

[@chibbyylol]

idk I'm having a hard time finding mammoth and sabretooth meat, at least organic ones

[@fittara7322]

RFK iinitiative MAHA ❤🇺🇸❤🇺🇸 Dr Layne Norton Dr Gabrielle Lyon ❤pioneers forthe advocacyof health, metobilically, age related decline hormonal endocrine decline male femal hormones and metabolism blood sugar - well done TRUMP RFK MAHA 2024

[@wmp3346]

Why would anyone get tattoo sleeves on their arms?? Looks trashy - wear a wristband or two - stop wasting your money, who needs that at 68?

[@Therealmathilda]

Free country. Stick to your tramp stamps.

[@BashUin2Pieces]

So you have a choice here 1. You are sexist and just "prefer" women without sleeve tattoos. 2. You are being ignorant and mean for no reason. She is a woman that can choose whatever she likes to put on her body. 3. Both

[@avapilsen]

Literally not your business

[@GabrielleLyon]

Then do not watch it.

[@Therealmathilda]

@GabrielleLyon Suns out guns out!

[@VernCrisler]

Yikes, Semaglutide is pronounced sim-AG-loo-tide, Layne, not sim-eye-gloo-tide. Great discussion!

[@GabrielleLyon]

I am pretty sure I have pronounced it wrong a million times! Hope you like the episode.

[@ketovoreking5440]

Oh no not "lame" norton how does this guy get air time 🙄 👎👎👎

[@Itsmekvn]

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[@phoenixaz8431]

@@Itsmekvn Some people genuinely do not like him. Layne is not a fan of keto and carnivore to say the least. So I understand ketovore king not being thrilled with him

[@octavianandron9635]

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