The Search for the Thorne Mine

[@tindoortailgator]

Hank and Larry - Thank You - Charlie would be Very Proud - God Bless, All Involved.

[@tazman8271]

Glad to see your keeping Charlie's dream alive

[@tomhutchings5935]

I love listening to your stories of The Superstitions! You all have been great narrators, and can hold an audience!

[@kaseyjones3832]

Hank and Larry you guys are such great story tellers and thank you for keeping Charlie's legacy and Arizona's history alive. Also I'm originally from Mesa so the Superstitions always have a special place in my heart🏜

[@chasjetty8729]

Thanks again friends.

[@mysteriesofthesuperstition6793]

Thank you too

[@MikeDonner]

It'll never be the same without Charlie but i very much look forward to this new chapter with Hank and the rest of the guys. Thank you so much for carrying on and providing all these interesting stories from this amazing state. Great job to all involved.

[@tomsayshifromnmgeo1361]

Excellent Thank you

Another great tale by a spectacular teller of tales........Watch it...and learn.....

[@panamared354]

First off I would like to say thank you for sharing your stories regarding the history of the local area. I could sit and listen to you for hours. My family came here to the territory of Arizona in the mid to late 1800's, settled in Duncan and my father came here to Mesa in 1935. On his birth certificate it's stated that he was born in the territory of Arizona. A little bit about me, I spent my summers at canyon lake and the winters in the superstitions. I know most of the stories with some variations. In the mid to late 70's I got into mining and prospecting, worked the gold shows for a&b prospecting store. Before the internet I spent a lot of hours at Mesa library reading every book that was related to the the superstitions and all the books at a&b store. I have personally found several mines and even found gold in the superstitions. There's no way of telling if one of those mines was the Dutchman's or the Thorne's. If I commit on the videos I'm not suggesting that I'm an expert and that I'm right and you are wrong I'm just passing along the stories that I know. Regarding the Thorne's gold, what I read was the the Apaches wanted to reward Thorne for his kindness of helping the Apaches. The Apaches before going to fort McDowell took the gold out of a mine and piled it up in a canyon then went and got Thorne, blind folded him and took him to the location and told him to take as much as he could carry. From what I've read it was about a two hour trip up there. The Apaches did not want the white man to be mining on there land so I don't think they took him to the mine. In the early eighties I pinned topo maps on the wall of my living room that extended from Roosevelt lake to the Gila river, from Apache Junction to Globe. Taking several lost gold maps I found the clues and the heart but life has responsibilities. Fast forward to now, I'm planning a trip this early spring to see if my theory is correct and I will give you an update. Thank you so much for sharing and keep the stories coming. P.S. the gold I found didn't come out of one of the mines, it came out of an outcropping by the Apache trail. Hundreds of people drive by it every day.

[@AZDesertExplorer]

Panama Red I’d love to join you!

[@LuckyBaldwin777]

It's late spring now, was your theory correct?

[@orange70383]

Very good episode, thank you'

[@johnathoncastro]

Your videos make me want to visit Arizona.

[@rodney1818]

I'm glad that you guys are continuing on it just solidifies the need to get these stories down by the people who know them still exist thank you for your work and bless you may the rest of you be blessed with longer than normal lives

[@robertstuck3214]

great history lesson. I love that you are keeping the channel alive.

[@thomasdavis3143]

Thank you, Hank&Larry, tuff I'm sure. But history needs to be told.TD

[@rebeccaswilling1771]

I’m so happy y’all are keeping this channel going, Charlie would be so proud of y’all. This is an awesome channel. Love y’all

[@JohnPAdv]

Glad you continue the show,thanks to all colaboratours*cheeers

[@JC-os5ue]

Thanks to all of you and always looking forward to your next video! Really enjoy you all! Good job,

[@MikeDonner]

I'm so glad you guys parked it Al Sieber for a bit, what a legend! That guy is a true bad ass. I became familiar with him studying the Battle of Big Dry Wash and read his book "Al Sieber Chief of Scouts" by Dan Thrapp. After reading that, the hunt for further info began and hasn't stopped. I would love to see you guys do an episode on him, please!! The connection is there with the Apache Trail, he also had his own mine operation in Tonto Basin. He deserves to be remembered, an Arizona legend! For those not familiar: He told a young boy at camp one day his secret was vinegar, and put it on everything. He could motivate the Apache like no other Chief of Scouts could, and had their respect from not only his bravery but because he (paraphrasing) "never lied to them. If he said he was your friend, he was. If he said he was going to kill you, he would". What a fascinating character, anyone interested in the subject should read that book.

[@howtodoityourself6178]

Thanks

[@williamburdon6993]

This country has had some amazing people helping to shape it, where are our heroes today?

[@gunstockreviewscorporatevi8105]

wow!

[@Brad-OTRT-Webmaster]

Glad to see you guys are keeping the show going. I watch every episode and think it's a great program. Thanks Hank and Larry and the production team. Great job everyone!

[@frankparrish5657]

I've watched this discussion twice now and each time different information pops out as interesting. Larry is a great historian.

[@solobushman]

Great video my friends, the stories of these mountains will never die and that's a good thing for us .see you on the next one.

[@sixshooter3313]

Good story , Great presentation. I always look forward to notifications of a new video.

[@paladin4570]

I’ve watched, liked and share ya ton of your excellent videos but, have never commented. Your content is always good and the audio visual top notch. Always looking through my subscription to find new videos. I wish I’d known of your channel years ago. I’m in Case Grande and have driven the Apache Trail from Tortilla Flats to the dam. I’ll be going to the museum soon. Thank You

[@mysteriesofthesuperstition6793]

Thank you for that!

[@ernieg1415]

I want to say thank you for all of your time and effort to put these clips out for us to enjoy and to hear about the history of this State called Arizona. I was born and raised in this state and these stories really mean a lot to me. As a matter of fact I had an uncle by the name of Coy Martin that had a little show done about him and some of the people that he led into the superstition Mountains years ago, sorry but I would have to ask my aunt the name of it. But I find it all very interesting. Again Thank you all

[@JLWELDINGTEXAS]

Another great story, thanks guys.

[@lasker31]

Great stuff. Well put together. Thanks.

[@johnganshow5536]

Love these Arizona history lessons. Back when men were real men...

[@johnganshow5536]

@Dan Erickson It would be interesting to time machine yourself back 200 years and see what kind of men we think we are. Now that we are used to technology, which has made life easier for us all...

[@johnganshow5536]

@Dan Erickson Sounds great!! I'm a veteran & retired law enforcement, lived & hunted in alaska for 37 years. But I'm still addicted to all the modern conveniences...

[@jquest43]

@Dan Erickson pull your own teeth is just crazy..it's a weakness..shows lack of reason. The rest is ok.

[@lonalwest]

There were a few mistakes in this story, but overall enjoyable. C. E. Cooley was my great grandfather. He came to Arizona Territory in 1869 with two partners in search of the Doc Thorne gold mine. The story teller said he couldn't find a picture of partner Henry Wood Dodd. I have one that I wish I could post here. It was his brother who was a colonel, not Henry. Henry was a captain and had an interesting military career as a spy for the Union during the Civil War. He later worked as a civilian Army scout in Arizona and helped Cooley in surveying and constructing Crook's Trail from Fort Apache to Camp Verde.

[@TheNacho1717]

lonalwest can you offer proof to us?

[@coppertopv365]

Good story, thanks for telling it.

[@TheNacho1717]

Absolutely great stuff gentlemen! More please.

[@deciduousdiscipline9592]

Awesome. Thank you

[@warrenlouisiana2277]

Awsome story,,,,

[@azsoto622]

Great content , i like this story’s

[@joeguzman3558]

Thank you very much for your time guys ,I'm just wandering if today's young Indians that may know where lots of gold mines are not cashing out ? I'm sure that inside the reservations the older Indians had told the young people where the locations are .

[@LuckyBaldwin777]

Today's elders have no idea where the mines are at. If they did, they'd be cashing in, trust me. Years ago I snuck onto the rez and did some exploring. I found an old abandoned mine that hasn't been worked much and even then not for 100 years or more. The canyon leading up to the mine has a beautiful ledge of silver ore. It's small, but looks to be rich. I was surprised to find the old mine where I did, because I was sure the richest part of the deposit is in the next canyon over. I was working my way over there when I heard 2 Indians on horseback with dogs heading in my direction. Luckily, the dogs took off after something else before they got a whiff of me. I made my escape and haven't been back since. Sure would like to take a peek inside that mine someday...

[@CeyCeyRealty]

@@LuckyBaldwin777 let's go take a peak

[@LuckyBaldwin777]

@@CeyCeyRealty It belongs to the Apache. No good will come from stealing it from them. Almost getting caught was a warning of that fact. Maybe someday I;ll go back, but even then I'll just be showing them where it is and if I'm lucky, they'll let me poke around a little. Sorry man, but that one's off limits.

[@CeyCeyRealty]

@@LuckyBaldwin777 I have no intentions of stealing from the Apache's, the fact is its probably already found if they were protecting it like that. Honestly I don't believe you.

[@CeyCeyRealty]

If they knew where there old mines are worth anything they'd be using that as bargaining chips to save Oakland flats.

[@StevenSchoolAlchemy]

The Thorne mine sounds interesting.

[@sandybeach3576]

These are some great stories of the old west

[@KK-le7dm]

Yellowstone Kelly,,wow,,thank you sir,,brilliant description,,

[@gregoryhare9542]

Wow thanks for some real history i have not heard about and this is very amazing. Thank you.

[@catrionahenderson7759]

WOW!

[@daveybass655]

The interesting part, is "Thornes mine" is an already existing mine, with a stone corral and such. So the truth, is that mine was established by someone else. More than likely a Spanish mine.

[@donvanstraaten4973]

Larry Hedrick is absolutely amazing, met him, Hank, Jack, Charlie and Ron Feldman a couple of years ago at the Museum Author Days event.... I have not seen a book written by Larry but I do have everyone else’s books. The history of Arizona in the Superstition Mountain area needs to be remembered.... apparently the Dutchman is personally responsible for the influx of hunters and their families, starting many years ago and continuing thru today.... his gravestone is modest by any means and he is deserving of an impressive monument reflecting his ability to draw so many residents and visitors to our wonderful State. Keep up the great videos gentlemen, the information is priceless.

[@jquest43]

The Deutsch man was a multiple murderer.

[@donvanstraaten4973]

@@jquest43 Have you seen John Wesley Hardins monument, or Wyatt Earp’s, maybe Al Capone’s... all have beautiful markers, all with documented kills, so where is the proof of The Dutchman killing anyone, conjecture and undocumented legends are not proof of anything.

[@jquest43]

@@donvanstraaten4973 the name " Dutchman" was the Americans mutating the name Deutsch man. ( German man) he was not dutch.

[@donvanstraaten4973]

@@jquest43 when incorrect, change the subject.

[@jquest43]

@@donvanstraaten4973 I'm sorry,did you lose your mind?

[@philbelli8418]

Absolutely love these stories ❤

[@confusedussay4583]

Just discovered this channel and I really like the format and information while noticing I just missed out communicating with Charlie. My condolences to all and if you need some help with content ideas I would be glad to contribute in any way possible. Including where to find gold in the Superstition mountains :)

[@MsNevadakid]

thanks again for a great piece of history telling!

[@vincesuchy3724]

Wow okay 😁 Thank You sounds like that story could just go on and on and on 😊👍🇨🇦

[@BearWa11ace]

Great story! Love it... thanks!

[@WmArthur]

Amazing information! So interesting, thanks so much! I spent 20 years in Phx. have been in Washington for 30 years now and would never consider going back, but the folklore is very interesting. Wonder if Sasquatch like the Superstitious Mountains? lol. Probably not. Like for me, it's just too hot. Gold has so much influence for some, smh, foolish. Really nice photography and professional quality video, btw, thanks again

[@davidmurphy619]

Aerial attack at 7:50... ? Here they come agaain

[@Robert-ne1vk]

Well i found some pretty interesting stuff and well like no other its compelling to the cashes .buy spain

[@KarlMcCleve]

When Al seiber died, they counted 17 scars on his body from wounds that he had received

[@deddie4645]

Really great really awesome I think you covered too much ground in one show my opinion....... each character could have had a show segment on their own........ really great really awesome I watch all of your show guys

[@thomasackerman3995]

The history alone is worth the time here! If you dont put it into video now from the living mouths of those who hold multiple interest in the subject it would remain two dimensional!

[@bisyhefr]

they could have hold back the indians whit bobwire fences

[@rosendodominguez4576]

SENPOL thegouL beLONG TO THE APACHES...AND THE Y TOKEIT. .

[@larryhedrick254]

lonalwest I don’t find anyway to contact you but if you will google Larry Hedrick you can find me on Facebook and message me a way to contact you without sharing you address to the whole world. I would like to have Dodd’s photo and other information including how to pronounce Cooley’s middle name.

[@Cwra1smith]

The geology is all wrong for there to be significant gold in the Superstition Mountains. I'm afraid all these stories are just "superstitions".

[@jquest43]

Quiet

[@dp1086]

Great content. But if you’re going to talk about Arizona you need to learn how to pronounce Prescott correctly.

[@blkcat1254]

In one of the storyies ,but I heard someone say that people have been found shot in the head in the superstitions mountain. I was thinking that the indians have likely guarding the gold in the mountains so as to keep the white man out, they are very good at it and know the area and can travel with less water then us.

[@lorenzobegay4104]

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