The Second Greatest Rapper Alive | The Joe Budden Podcast

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

" hey Ms. Donda ... You see my mama whisper her this " I almost turned the track off after that .... That line was so powerful and delivered so raw!

[@mr.williams9237]

I felt this

[@actiontank4131]

The disrespect for Big Boi is real. They both elevated each other. ATL knows what’s up. Shout out to OutKast the greatest hip hop group of all time

[@jaebarnes]

You can tell the people who have never fully listen to OutKast albums. Big Boi has the best verse on several of their songs. 3K is the better of the two but Big Boi is an incredible rapper.

[@footballbrainer279]

Big Boi was a very good rapper but Andre 3000 was an artist If Big Boi hadn't been great as a rapper they wouldn't have lasted that long together. In a group there will always be someone who gets the biggest shine, TDE - Kendrick Lamar does, G Unit - 50 Cent did but Lloyd Banks was a better rapper than him etc

[@AltaVegas81]

All Big Boi solo albums SLAP,he always held his OWN in Outkast 50/50 SPLIT! 💯

[@s.linastaffords6744]

Big Boi used to mess up a lot of OutKast songs with his off beat weak flows and not talking about nothing.

[@WhatIKnw]

Mmmm I'd argue with The WU being the BEST hip hop group...every group has bee modeled after them since they broke up

[@CharlesBabb]

Andre makes mundane situations, interactions, and thoughts sound larger than life in the most eloquent and poetic way.

[@Mook05]

Its one of those things that are intangible

[@King-ww1kz]

Mundane?? I disagree

[@reaganibeh9443]

ABSOLUTELY!!!

[@MichaelThompson-qf8ri]

The best explanation I've ever read about Andre 3k

[@dillondewitt3952]

“Big Boi is alright.” Ice sounds like a tooooool. The duo is the duo. Big Boi deserves his roses

[@LordHaveMurcielago]

I'm soooooo tired of Big Boy downplay. Props to Rico Wade, Sleepy & Ray for sparking the flame.

[@PresidentJackBauer]

That's what ice was trying to say

[@LordHaveMurcielago]

@Andre King Lies!

[@LordHaveMurcielago]

@Andre King You don't just rap for FOUR ALBUMS alongside someone that is undoubtably considered "the best" for 10 + years and be trash. Nah fam. That is literally impossible and a very foolish assumption on your part. From Southernplayalistic to ATLiens to Aquemini to Stankonia they were pushing one another, bouncing ideas of one another, writing and then re-writing verses to see who could out do one another. You're OD bugging. Lol

[@alexmccoy1055]

@Andre King that's a lie he had songs and promoted ppl when they weren't together... big boi carried on a good bit of songs but I doubt you actually listed to outcast albums

[@InfiniteUmbra]

Andre 3K gives you that poetry that sticks to your soul. This was a worthy discussion here fellas.

[@CharlesBabb]

Kendrick should go get Andre to do a verse.

[@TheQANinja]

He stol Andre 3000 style so that would work

[@taleywalley]

@@TheQANinja L comment

[@hazeljackson6830]

@@TheQANinja kendrick has 100 plus styles and flows so I wonder how he stole someone's sound you clown

[@Br0therHO0dClan]

@@TheQANinja should’ve just said “I have no clue what I’m talking about”

[@princelamar4422]

@@TheQANinja bruuh chill with that bs

[@MrBusy327]

Andre is my favorite rapper he's just different. His content, style, and delivery just hit different and you feel different after hearing it. Everyone can't do that.

[@zackarynoble9611]

You can literally see what Andre is saying. As a child growing up in Atlanta in the 90s… in the hood… I found hope at times in outkast music… 3K verses specifically…… thanks kast for bringing me hope!

[@yaboyloso216]

I guess Nas doesn’t exist and didn’t just release the album of the year 🤔…The GOAT

[@anthonyroyal7994]

The disrespect 🤦‍♂️ And Jay z never better than Nas imo..

[@Mic-100]

I can't understand how they act like Nas I just ok..smh.

[@videogamemovies203]

Nas suck

[@anthonyroyal7994]

@@hoopslove5268 I'm saying something Jay knows 😂

[@anthonyroyal7994]

@@videogamemovies203 That's your opinion, but you shouldn't listen to any more hip hop ever again. You're banned for 1yr son..

[@Nothingatall1984]

I just finished listening to Life of the Party for the 30th time… such a good verse from Andre🥺 and the beat, the old style Ye flows🤟🏾🙌🏾

[@Cam-fn5gh]

Ayo search up I can’t think By paid killa & thank me later on 💜

[@wotabottle]

Little brother did it 1st. " Life of the party ". 10 times better.

[@Red5ive]

@@wotabottle little brother killed that but let’s appreciate both sir… too much wack music out here these days

[@trevors.5998]

I can’t stop watching Seven Hunnid on KZbin bruhh😭😭his videos are amazing

[@smartybabytv5547]

3stacks verse on sixteen with Ross is amazing god tier level rapping.

[@SI-sk5hl]

Sorry .. off of trouble man ti album was better

[@broadwaybiz211]

Fire

[@smartybabytv5547]

@@SI-sk5hl also love the verse so so much and usually play it after or before the sixteen verse so I won’t say ur wrong! Haha

[@allpraisetothemosthigh8906]

How bout his verse on "the art of storytelling pt.4" is one of the best

[@broadwaybiz211]

@@allpraisetothemosthigh8906 classix

[@SI-sk5hl]

Bruh not having a solo album counts…and put some respect on Big Boi name .. and Aquemini is a top 10 album of all time I’m out ✌🏾

[@Cam-fn5gh]

Ayo search up Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 🌊🍀

[@markeithjackson6895]

Solo kinda counts but if you're that talented lyrically you have to be mentioned as top 3or5 if that's your talent plus as a member of a successful group he's a All-Time great

[@reedirokaj]

No it don’t because if it really did Andre wouldn’t be considered top tier even with OutKast discography

[@Measuredingrahams]

Stankonia as well to me

[@JRD1990]

All these things they're saying about Andre (which is true) is exactly how Jay-Z feels about Jay Electronica.

[@FrenchJae]

JayZ looks at Jay Elect and scratches his head like 🤔 and thinks to himself. This nigga could be great but he's somehow not passionate enough.

[@jordandavis3867]

Jay Electronica could have definitely been the best.

[@FrancoisDressler]

@@jordandavis3867 Jay Elec has no bad music. He's one of the best (to me) regardless of quantity.

[@gritty25]

I’m starting to think Joe hasn’t heard more than 10 Nas songs

[@falcon1711]

Nas nice but Dre is different

[@gritty25]

@@falcon1711 Exactly! Different is right but, different don’t make you better than the Goat.

[@falcon1711]

@@gritty25 just my opinion...Stacks is my Goat

[@tony4534]

@@falcon1711 False lol

[@falcon1711]

@@tony4534 dats what makes hip hop great diversity Nas in my Top 5 BTW lol

[@beezzyworld5836]

No lie these new dudes good like how the debate with joe they don’t fold easy 💯💯✊🏾

[@larloscastra978]

Yeah I fw them heavy. Mal seemed a little lazy and Rory definitely folded a little too easy, but it was a good dynamic between the three of them too. The og cast still got my love.

[@PushYourEdge]

Big facts. They stay bringing strong counter points to that joe can’t steamroll as easy because they are so solid

[@akeemhuggins6799]

Ice and ish nigga 🗣

[@jarvon8or]

A welcomed change

[@Whatacomedian_]

@@larloscastra978 what are you talking about they argued every episode for like years 😂

[@thedfferencetab1977]

This... was actually perfect. Y'all said everything myself as an artist & a lover of this genre would've said. Gave 3K his flowers without belittling Big...because there are some songs where Big got 3K on ['So Fresh, So Clean' being one of them.] Quoted JAY and remembered the track. [BP3] Used Pharoahe and Po as examples. Gave Lauryn her flowers as well as J A Y E L E C T. Might be my favorite segment, so far from y'all. Great job Kings.

[@Largentina.]

I think 3K's verse is hilarious in So Fresh So Clean

[@kkeerreedd]

Please don’t forget the lyricism of Black Thought . An MF DOOM.

[@madvillain7]

Yes sir!

[@likemikegenerationx2]

….😒

[@dd120398]

Common and lupe

[@thedfferencetab1977]

CyHi, Papoose, King Los... there's quite a few.

[@Ikilledthebanks]

Ello Guvnor

[@kyngdavid3648]

*Andre 3Stacks is Rappers favorite Rapper……That alone says a lot💯In my opinion he’s #1 on my list, and always has been!!*

[@falcon1711]

Big ol Fax

[@Bayn_Lawrence]

OutKast went out on top. They are the greatest rap group ever and potentially the greatest music group of all time. Why should Andre 3000 step on that. I'm cool with this

[@julianclanton1204]

After this segment we need a big boi appreciation day he gets hated on TO MUCH! I was with ice lyrically big boi held his own against 3k an on outkast early albums you can say he outrapped him on some songs. It wasn't until aquimini was 3k took HUGE leaps creatively an big boi still held his own with the different flows an cadences. Big boi is a beast

[@6thbr871]

He’s good but don’t need no appreciation day, it’s a million rappers better then big boi.

[@mbealhighjump]

@@6thbr871 This reply is exactly why we need a Big Boi appreciation day. "Appreciation" isn't about being comparative but just giving flowers.

[@fairplayterrific147]

@@mbealhighjump Exactly ☝🏽 You Get It....

[@solas444]

When I talk about my top 5 I say Outkast instead of Andre

[@DLtheGreat]

Imo he’s overrated. I don’t care about him unless Andre 3000 is mentioned too.

[@demonicmaleficentviciously140]

There wasnt a lot of people giving 3k his flowers until that Em verse, I remember after that everyone was askin for 3k features.

[@gregorypollard721]

I'm with Parks on that. The first time I got goosebumps hearing a song since hearing Nip's Blue Laces 2

[@curtjack4198]

Search Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 💜💜

[@anesu846]

BRO BLUE LACES IS INSANE

[@KiLLBiLLNATiON]

“I’m the spook by the door// this the infiltration/“ - Tha Great

[@kravon2315]

His verse on thought process was next level

[@rickymanning9329]

I just think it's dope how 3 stacks always remained humble and all these other rappers like to scream how great they are when we speak on 3 stacks greatness.

[@Aluvsloans]

3K makes a verse sound like art 🖼- the only other guy that makes me feel like that was Christopher Wallace - no rapper could ever ride a beat and flow like Frank…. BIG had the total package as an MC - Flow , Voice , presence , word play - I love how these guys love their craft and we get to enjoy it 🖤

[@mrmxyzptlk8906]

Ye is better than both of them.

[@franklinavery8875]

I will try to give another analogy. For all of my anime heads, here it goes. Any of you ever saw the series afro samurai? So in the movie, Afro Samurai's father, Rokuturo, was the number one fighter in the world, and he wore the number 1 headband and is Killed by Justice, a cowboy gunslinger, who wore the number 2 headband until it he killed Rokulturo to take the number 1 headband. And Afro sought vengeance his whole life, wearing the number 2 headband because the one holding the number 2 headband is the only opponent that can challenge whoever holds the number 1, which is still Justice. However, anyone can challenge whoever holds the number 2 headband in their possession. Jay-Z in my opinion has the number 1 headband, but he knows that there is someone out there with that genius ability, who has the number 2 headband. But he is chillin, living life playing the flute, and doesn't seek that number one spot. He just wants to live life and create beautiful art and moments, not seeking revenge and ultimate power. Hope I didn't bore you guys!

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

Classic anime ... The second movie was 💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥

[@AIMTgames]

I agree with parks man its been so long since I got real goosebumps just from lyrical ability on a song. This 3K verse, has him sneaking into my top 5..

[@fairplayterrific147]

THEN That Means You Don't Listen To Enough QUALITY Rap Music Then....

[@fairplayterrific147]

@Phantom Freeze Nah More Like elZhi, Termanology, Pharoahe Monch & Freddie Gibbs....

[@fairplayterrific147]

@Phantom Freeze Of Course I Know Who AB-Soul Is... I've Been Listening To Him Since 2009 So I'm Not New To His Level Of Lyricism... Dawg I Listen To Emcees That Will Blow Your Mind With One Line😁 I'm Not A Poser I Live This Shit For Real.... Props To Oddisee, Immortal Technique & Chino XL....

[@johndelaney1787]

@@fairplayterrific147 yooooo the fact that u mentioned ODDISEE!!!! I THINK I LOVE YOU BRUH LOL... THAT DUDE HAS BEEN HEEEELLLLLAAAA SLEPT I PLAYED THEE HELL OUT OF HIS MUSIC! D.C. STAND UP

[@fairplayterrific147]

@@johndelaney1787 WORD! That's What It Is! Mello Music Group Don't Play Man... "Hip Hop Is Cool Again" "What's Crazy" "Yeezus Was A Mortal Man" "Own Appeal" & "Musik Lounge" Off Of DJ Jazzy Jeff "The Magnificent" Album Are Some Ofy Favorites From Him.... I'm Glad You're Up On Some Real Rap For Real Much Respect...

[@kickegueadimenia6494]

Visiting this over a year later, this was one of the best André verses of all time.

[@thetruest7497]

Not best Andre verses. One of the best hip hop verses. Possibly the goat verse.

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

​@@thetruest7497Andre best verse to me is off of " Thought Process " .....

[@thetruest7497]

@hebrew26commandmentspower55 ima check it out, its not coming to mind immediately

[@nigelasipa4150]

Verse Of The Year: Jay-Z for ‘What It Feels Like’, Lauryn Hill on ‘Nobody’, Kendrick Lamar on ‘Family Ties’ and now Andre 3000 on ‘Life Of The Party’. 3K feels more in front now. Bravo sir and thank you 🙏

[@Cam-fn5gh]

Ayo search up Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 🌊🍀

[@SI-sk5hl]

This is spot on

[@custardingtoncringleworthy1646]

Id add Nas 'My Bible' and JID last verse on 'Skegee' to that

[@raynium1]

Wayne on seeing green

[@piconicomymixtapez8960]

Take Kendrick Lamar off this list and I agree with you.

[@padrescott2047]

Everybody ignored his solo album bc most people ignore their introspection. He had a solo piece after his family passed.

[@logicsir5257]

The Nas disrespect on this pod is soo real ! Haha I don’t know what Nas did to Joey but it’s real !

[@Raulgonzobonzo]

Nah nas is mid

[@wesleytwinomugisha3201]

Give Kanye the credit he deserves. His verse on this was fire too!

[@thatkidAtrayne]

Fuck that maga tap dancer.

[@Radical_thadical]

He definitely went off

[@solas444]

it just did Andres shit dirty this song could of been way more

[@stannis7656]

big joe really gettin' these subs back. nice to see the comeback in effect

[@Cam-fn5gh]

Ayo search up Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 🌊🍀

[@MannyTwice]

KZbin subs mean nothing to him

[@stannis7656]

@@MannyTwice super cap

[@MannyTwice]

@@stannis7656 you take the 35k or so subs from KZbin and add them to Patreon he more than evens out. KZbin is a graveyard for revenue especially on this level...hence Rogan

[@traystephens5152]

Both are Amazing Rappers. The difference is Dre can Rap like Big Boi as he showed us on Southernayalisticadillacmuzik but Big Boi can’t rap like Dre. Nobody can. The rest of their albums showed his evolution as a rapper and his style change and the contrast between Big Boi’s style and Dre’s new style being able to work on the same song is what made OutKast so great. But not many rappers can play Big Boi’s role either.

[@TizOnly1]

Andre is the GOAT and I don't understand why there's even a debate tbh. He's better at rapping than anyone else who's ever done it. Zero bad verses. Every verse is about SOMETHING. You can't find a Dre verse (at least past the 1st album) that isn't laser focused on a topic, going deeper into a subject than vast majority of other rappers, while doing shit with the tempo, rhyme scheme, voice inflections... SOMETHING to give it extra life.. oh yeah, all while delivering technically perfect lyricism, with all sorts of poetic elements thrown in to vary it up. Lyrically more dexterous than any rapper ever. From ridiculously long multisyllabic schemes, alliteration, again inflection shifts from line to line in a pattern that goes for an entire verse... NOBODY else does that shit. Content depth of Tupac (different subjects, obv.. but in terms of how connected they are to the SOUL of whatever they're talking about.. they're 1A and 1B on that imo all time), while just being on an entirely different planet as far as technical skill (Andre NEVER giving you some Enemies/Hennessey rhyme). There's nobody else as good at rapping TECHNIQUE as Andre, that's anywhere close to as good at the human element of it. Not Jay.. not Big.. not Nas.. not Em. No. Not Royce, not Thought, not Lupe.. sorry. Phonte is the only other rapper I even bring up in this discussion as having the same combination of elements (just at a decently lower level), but y'all don't want that convo.

[@mrmxyzptlk8906]

Ye is better, stop the bullshit lol.

[@jaydub6864]

All facts 🎤 drop

[@jeremiahfrancis3177]

Great show. One of my favorite pod casts hands down. Tempo, commentary , and respect amongst the cast. Love it. Way better than before. These boys know their music.

[@kaliefhampton2483]

Ice and Ish just come off as 2 more thorough dudes.. Not a skateboarder lookin mfer and a fly guy- I can't talk so much because I'm too cool type. These are the dudes you see at your local barbershop who can talk about damn near anything with an unfolding opinion.

[@clayco35]

@nhlahla Sithole 😅😅

[@6thbr871]

That’s how you know hip hop is not part of Atlanta culture because they don’t even fuck with Andre, especially not the younger artist.

[@OmarScruggs]

Yup

[@dawb86]

@6thbr damn, I never thought about it like that...

[@aze4964]

Who told you Atlanta didn’t fuck with Andre what lol

[@6thbr871]

@Cerise Medina nigga said not the us 😂😂I’m from nyc the Mecca of this shit, open ya eyes tho young thug said out his own mouth he don’t fuck with Andre and he the leader of all them lil niggas in atl. Also all the young artist from the south are asking for jay z features and not a Andre 300 feature, example is thug, da baby, lil baby and 21 savage, they all came out recently saying they want a jay z feature. You never here none of them from atl speak on Andre.

[@mike.cdn7212]

@@6thbr871 I'm a big OutKast fan and I do remember Young Thug saying what he said about Dre. But then again that's one rapper from Atlanta not giving Dre his props. If you know anymore that disrespect Dre or doesn't know his impact then let me know.

[@messiahisaiah7521]

I think Lil Wayne’s catalog doesn’t get enough respect on this podcast .. definitely greatest rapper alive contender, still to this day !

[@messiahisaiah7521]

@Phantom Freeze yea uhhhh try again !!! go listen to any song featuring drake and wayne , wayne smokes him on everything!!!!! from the “ignorant shit” freestyle all the way to the latest example being “seeing green” drake had the worst verse and wayne is still rapping at a god level .. refer to d6 or any of wayne’s recent features .. the benny one , the big sean one

[@dawb86]

@Phantom Freeze Granted though, Wayne still got it but it's another got rich and stopped trying kind of deal. It's not like there's any hunger to be prove he the best anymore, he just doing what he obviously do now...

[@rodneyscott5450]

@Phantom Freeze WTF you mean he's not deserving 😂?? You mad at Drake because he worked his off and his label promotes him hard like they're suppose to??

[@jayrod0603]

Say it now. No one wants a versus with Wayne. It’s over. It’s wrap. Unanimous.

[@cartierjoe]

Wayne doesn't push the envelope. He stay in his lane ala Jay z. To be a true "artist" then u have to try new things. At least attempt to.

[@BigBossOx860]

Tarik Trotter got something to say about this conversation. Just saying

[@jamarkellum1370]

Thats what i..... Thought lol ok im out 🙃

[@dawb86]

LOL, the irony of calling Black Thought is even funny here because a lot of people never gave Malik B his props for what he did on those earlier Roots albums either...

[@jamaaldavis2230]

@@jamarkellum1370 thought ,> 3k

[@ad34bballin]

I'm pretty sure Jay has Andre top five all time. Also, if a Jay/Andre song came out, I would probably die from excitement. Andre's too great of a guy and MC.

[@matthewpleines647]

It did!! “I do” when jeezy.

[@NIO4LIFE]

Jeezy is also an artist that brings the best out of HOV.. Drake is also on the original I Do song jeezy is mad underrated he showed real growth with his last project

[@jaunhcblack716]

J elec gave the range of three stacks goose bumps

[@proceidkingzech2636]

Man y’all calling a fight I’m watching. Kanye went super hard on that song

[@icecreamjones1]

Sir, Big Boi would PROLLY wash many of your favs...

[@lostintheark5728]

The Dungeon Family could wash the game completely

[@BigGroove811]

If 3 Stacks had Big Boi’s catalog then he would easily be the greatest rapper to ever grace the mic.

[@icecreamjones1]

Fax. Big Boi solo catalogue is top shelf Sir.

[@traystephens5152]

Agreed and the only reason he doesn’t us simply because he doesn’t want to. 🐐

[@julianclanton1204]

This is fax big boi has ATLEAST 2 classic solo albums

[@VANGUARDIANTV100]

facts

[@Genemon123]

Kanye had another completely different verse from this one. We have some audio of it from the Las Vegas Listening Party. I would guess after Andre heard that verse. After the song was taken off the album Kanye probably just did the Drake diss version. He was also actively working on the song and as of recent the Akademiks snippet of Kanye's verse is very similar to the Las Vegas version

[@curtjack4198]

Search I can’t think By paid killa & thank me later on 💜💜

[@desean3402]

Andre just never drops a bad feature. Ever

[@falcon1711]

Dat man ain't never failed

[@MrLyricJunkie]

Y’all trippin man, Big Boi is that guy and his solo albums are amazing. Like Amazing!!! Top Tier Lyrics

[@troll4truth213]

Nas first verse on New York State of Mind part 2 and the third verse on What Goes Around are the two best Nas verses ever. 3000 is nice with it be he has nothing for those two verses.

[@DOEPAMEAN]

Forget 2nd verse, That WHOLE song. Son said “ I wish mama woulda cuffed me to the radiator/ why not?/ it mighta saved me later from my block/. His flow was very silly on that, very

[@bmarley1741]

Rick Ross - Sixteen fr Andre 3k Go listen. Nas never flowed liked that in his life

[@jamaaldavis2230]

@@bmarley1741 ever hrd nas verses on mobb deep eye 4 an eye n raekwon verbal intercourse verses....nas > 3k..y'all serious..😂

[@andrehamilton9523]

3k I’m sorry verse🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ericramone9303]

So they just forgot about NAS?

[@mickey10jb80]

Ems flow didnt go with the song in my opinion. It didnt mesh well. Sometimes all that extra isnt needed. Kills the whole vibe

[@mickey10jb80]

@Phantom Freeze nope. Actually kids love rap with no feeling. They love that white boy rap where you say random shit real fast that rhymes. And I know ems a great rapper and I like rappers like Mac Miller. But that fast rap shit thats popular now with kids with the garbage cadence aint it

[@mickey10jb80]

@Phantom Freeze type in fast rap in the you tube search and tell me thats real hip hop lol.

[@mickey10jb80]

@Phantom Freeze not saying that but its not always needed. Plus there is a more tasteful way to do it to go along with the beat and the song(twista and busta do this). I feel like the way he did it didnt fit the song well...plus in this new fast rap, the beat doesnt matter. They just say as much as possible, as fast as possible. It doesnt have to fit well or be in any type of pocket

[@ericramone9303]

@@mickey10jb80 Facts I be trying to tell people. Would you rather be rolling in your wip listening to Nas or Em. Like em can rap but I’m not bumping his albums daily. He don’t be talking about shit he just be rapping.

[@godswiph]

Hey... remember the first time you heard 3000 on Frank Ocean's "Solo Reprise." That verse is Hall of Fame GOAT tier. Incredible.

[@DumbBaby]

Agree 100. That whole album is an all time classic to me and that verse is so effortlesslt perfect and deep that I get chills.

[@brownthree]

Andre’s verse on “Sorry” by T.I.should be in the Smithsonian museum

[@wtcher2060]

Andre 3000 was part of a group. Specifically a duo. Wasn’t like Wu Tang where some of em wasn’t on some songs. He was on every song. That’s his body of work. Take it or leave it. And The Love Below was part of a OutKast album but it was clearly a solo effort. And it’s the reason they won a Grammy for ALBUM OF THE YEAR. A solo album would be great but it’s not needed to consider him one of the GOATs. He’s in my personal top 5-7 of all time

[@tygottafeelin9753]

Drop THE GAVEL on that! 👨🏾‍⚖️👨🏾‍⚖️👨🏾‍⚖️

[@silentassassin6162]

Yea Andre 3000 is prolly my favorite rapper when it comes to delivery/lyrics, also Mac Dre.

[@stbcurt4250]

Top 7 is reasonable. Top 2? 😬

[@rodneyscott5450]

Speakerboxx was packaged with The Love Below so you can't say Andre is the only reason they won a Grammy 🤨

[@devriondexter9461]

There are plenty of songs on OutKast albums that Andre or Big Boi are not on together

[@erwinjones433]

His verse on 16 by Rick Ross is 🔥🔥🔥

[@xxdevin007]

Flawless

[@broadwaybiz211]

Redman is my fav artist ever but Nas needs to b mentioned at all times

[@KOFICOMPANY]

Nas is the GOAT 🐐

[@thetruest7497]

Mentioned with the garbo. I mention him all the time.

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

Nas is always mentioned all the time. People do bring Nas name up.

[@christopherparker7530]

I'm with Ish, I feel like this was kept away so he wouldn't feel the heat from 3 Stacks killing what might be the only actual Donda based guest verse I heard lmbo

[@qmcc7741]

Can’t ignore the production. Made it even more special.

[@adrielgreen6746]

People act like Esco still ain't alive and just didn't drop 2 straight classics with KD and KD2 smh

[@averix84]

Talk about it 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@bobitosoulfrito8782]

Classics? How old are you? Hahaha

[@adrielgreen6746]

@@bobitosoulfrito8782 40 and do that matter? Nas been my favorite rapper since illmatic so I ain't a young boy. They both are definitely classics by today's standards. Only way they are not is if you're comparing them to his own prime work like Illmatic and IWW. But not all classics are created equal. Albums can be classic for different reasons. For these 2 albums that's the majority consensus. But you act like I'm tweakin 😂🤷🏾

[@sc84_]

And some people outhere talkin like Hov aint alive. 🐐

[@adrielgreen6746]

@@sc84_ It was assumed Joe had Hov in that #1 spot and was putting Andre as the 2nd best rapper alive. Joe has Hov as the GOAT

[@kyreemiller4167]

Y’all just realizing this let me learn you: What a job/Devin the Dude Sorry/T.I. Play the guitar/B.o.B. And of course throw some D’s and Sixteen. This dude been top 3

[@aaronferguson7240]

And he ain’t number 2 or 3 🐐

[@andrehamilton9523]

Don’t forget walk out remix🙏🏾

[@jeliroletheearthwalker997]

I waited for days to hear this conversation…… This song is a Master Masterpiece!!! Drake fucked up.

[@thatkidAtrayne]

Did he, would we have heard this verse, if he didn't leak it. Also this is revenge. The amount of shit that maga asshole has done. This is all fair game.

[@Kyxfinesse]

I hope Kendrick doesn’t turn into Andre a sleeping legend

[@kungfukennytde6065]

He’s like 3 albums in so that kills your comment and he’s dropping this month or next

[@tony4534]

@@kungfukennytde6065 The said turn into, doesn’t have anything to do with what he already did. 3 stacks did a lot too.

[@theexclusiveedition]

My heart is heavy for three stacks. The emotions that I felt behind this record. Capitalism won’t let our GOATS be. He should be here now. Doing what he does best.

[@KC-cb7ov]

You write your sentence like Drake bars.

[@xSGTBOMBSQUADx]

I need to fall asleep so I come to the joe budden podcast! Respectfully joe you should do audio book readings, your voice is perfect to help people sleep I won’t 50% of what you make lol

[@youseekd6856]

Lyrically Andre3000 is Top 5 if not TOP 3🙏🏽‼️😤

[@stbcurt4250]

Fam where? give me a lyrical bar from him that made you think?

[@Maiqqz]

@@stbcurt4250 Check his aquemini verse

[@stbcurt4250]

@@Maiqqz only one bar caught my attention out of all 3 verses. I need more. Try again

[@julianclanton1204]

So where is big boi

[@drudinero9075]

Just the fact they couldn't fathom following this verse shows how much of a beast Big Boi is. Because he's been following 3k most of his career, & this song would have been an instant classic if he hopped on right after 💯

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

Bro I love Big Boi as a lyricist... But there is no following that verse from Andre .... The verse was too raw and powerful .... You can't follow that kind of verse .... Only respect and bow ..... Andre left his soul on dat track ..... Big boi wouldn't even touch it ....

[@keithwilliams1018]

Andre 3000 is a legend with wasted potential....how insane is that

[@aniiimmense]

as long as he's been away from the scene, when you look at everything he's done, can't really say he wasted his potential, he still accomplished so much

[@tdup191]

@@aniiimmense nah we needed at least one if not two solo albums from him especially since Big Boi got three of his own smh

[@mike.cdn7212]

Andre made 6 albums with Big Boi, what are you talking about wasted talent? The man is solidified.

[@jamaaldavis2230]

@@mike.cdn7212 not @ #2...stfu

[@mrdavidashley6892]

"What do you do when you get that back?" What's so frustrating is that all Kanye had to do with spit something SLIGHTLY introspective, ride the beat and this would have been one of the greatest collaborations of Kanye West's career and of all time. But again, Kanye West is in his own way... If this album has 12 or 13 songs, plus this track, Kanye West has his seventh classic album, but that's too much like right.

[@curtjack4198]

Search I can’t think By paid killa & thank me later on 💜💜

[@nechadi]

Exactly. Less filler, more killer. Lose those Pt 2’s, chop 5 or 6 tracks, add the 3k track, fix the sequencing, and it’s another classic Ye album.

[@Arjr72]

7th? 😂 Tell us the 6 classics.

[@nechadi]

@@Arjr72 you could easily say CD LR Grad 808 MBDTF Some would say TLOP

[@bmarley1741]

Only Kanye

[@giovannaj1981]

Andre 3000 stays on my top 5 forever. Jay is in first place and 3000 is 2nd. I always said this.

[@Cam-fn5gh]

Ayo search up Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 🌊🍀

[@reedirokaj]

If Andre ain’t in yo top 3 yo list holds no validity

[@vi2935]

I’m just not a fan of the southern style. But he a legend tho

[@marlonvarnell3098]

NaS #1 THE REAL/TRUE 🐐

[@darlaigbokie1653]

💯 I would have thought as the best & 2nd best they still don’t have an album as classic as illmatic and Nas is stil out here out rapping both Joe’s best rapper & 2nd best 😂😂😂😂

[@djkurse9209]

Black thought better

[@darlaigbokie1653]

@@djkurse9209 He’s good lyrically but gotta have the classic catalogue to show for it tho? He ain’t got that to be considered Top 3 Greatest.. Nas makes timeless music 🎶 Big & pac musics are Timeless… & I guess it’s just because of the actual content… Nas & Pac most especially are Poet. Poets transcends Time.. Most especially when they transition. let’s say 100yrs from now.. those living will study their work @ the main focus would be the content of words.. not so much abt how much records sold… the closest thing to Prophets are Poets… matter of facts I think Pac & Nas works have being or currently being looked into in some universities 🤔

[@nerdbamarich2063]

@@darlaigbokie1653 the roots don't have a classic catalog? Man you can't be serious. Outside of Malik B(rest in peace) those are essentially Black Thought albums and they've got plenty of Classics arguably more than nas. So yea Black Thought has the resume to considered the goat because his catalog is impeccable!!!

[@nerdbamarich2063]

@@darlaigbokie1653 and black thoughts freestyle on Funk Flex with studied in at either some schools or university shortly after it was released. This is a freestyle we're talkin about not an album that's how much of an impact he has.

[@sueptone]

Andre's verse should have been an interlude on the album.

[@quantum_immortality]

Uh Ohhh... Kendrick saw this title and grabbed one of his 25 lighters off the dresser... We know what time it is... 💨💨💨

[@lemotek]

When Kendrick sees a top 5: 😡

[@xFarce]

2 N 👀 T

[@hou-tanclan7612]

Kendrick can't out rap Andre

[@markeithjackson6895]

@@hou-tanclan7612 I think he'll come damn close and probably the only rapper to ever live that can come close

[@hou-tanclan7612]

@@markeithjackson6895 Negative

[@aaronbazil]

Here's the answer to this entire debate: Kendrick is Andre 3000s successor. Kenny's flow is 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒍𝒚 𝒊𝒏𝒇𝒍𝒖𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆𝒅 by 3Stacks. Kendrick went places with that flow that Andre hadn't gone with it and he never recovered from the first time Kendrick played him GKMC. What's 3 Stacks gonna say with that kinda wordplay and flow that Kendrick hasn't already made? Just like how Top Dawg is the better successor of Suge Knight. One laid the blueprint, another took it opened so many doors with it. A student usually surpasses the master at some point.

[@peaceinthemiddleeast4349]

I agree Andre is amazing but you can’t put him over Nas but definitely in the top 3

[@2Way23]

No way in hell over Nas bro ✊🏾

[@Numbers-mc2ks]

Andre would smoke nas 🤣🤣🤣

[@markeithjackson6895]

Love nas but 3k is better lyrically and musically but they both top 10 but andre top 3 or 5

[@trillali1896]

@@Numbers-mc2ks When you rap as well as Andre and Nas nobody is getting “smoked”. It would be a blood bath.

[@Numbers-mc2ks]

@@trillali1896 nah andre one of the only rappers I think smoking anybody except Kendrick maybe

[@erichightower5612]

3 stacks is just RIDICULOUS!!!! That verse is SICK!

[@citywoods9699]

Joe is loosing it. Royce and Black thought made a crazy verse with tobe Ngwe . And Wayne had many verses over the last two years that's do what he does. And been killing having a J Cole feature type of year.. but I guess they not hearing those fetures... smh..

[@judahtrippin]

@19:46 is the point i was waiting on Joe to make. Andre is GOAT. He is the only MC that isn't from New York that is in everyone's top five which makes him number one OF ALL TIME

[@6thbr871]

Lol he is not in everybody top 5, he’s the 2nd greatest rapper from the south after Scarface, be happy with that considering he don’t even have a solo album. It’s to many great rappers especially from NYC for Andre to even be considered.

[@markeithjackson6895]

@@6thbr871 yeah you're a different level of crazy lol

[@rashodm7129]

@@6thbr871 🤡🤡

[@eobardthawne7126]

They need to stop letting Parks talk.

[@ais5094]

Why everybody turn to parks hate what happened to his hive 😂

[@eobardthawne7126]

@@ais5094 bro he just be saying shit without thinking. It seem like since Mal and Rory left joe asked him to speak more.

[@dolu2668]

How comes 🤔👀?

[@Kyxfinesse]

What he do?

[@eobardthawne7126]

@@dolu2668 He does give real takes, just emotional ones.

[@gianmartinez3207]

The big boi and 3stack analogy he should have used was the same good will hunting. Big Boi is nice But 3 stacks does it when he wants and does it crazy nice. My opinion.

[@elliottwilson2352]

Andre do need to put out a Solo Album I’m sorry but I see why he himself is hesitant about doing it cause of this type of pressure

[@hou-tanclan7612]

Look in the mirror and slap what you see.

[@tdup191]

Yea he's def the feature king because anytime he hops on your track it becomes his but I do agree, might be too much pressure for him to do a solo project, especially today because beat selection is important and not sure what sound he'd go for. IMO he'd have to go route Nas did with using Hit-Boy for KD/KD2 and have Kanye, Cole or someone along those lines produce it solely instead of bunch of randomly produced songs like CLB 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@onyxonyx4744]

Exactly and that's why we need to cherish the greats that worked through the pressure and STILL delivered classic material.

[@chineduobuekwe]

If you’ve heard Hey Ya, you’d know Andre is a creative genius. He’s a rapper and made that song. That’s like rock bro

[@Cam-fn5gh]

Ayo search up Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 🌊🍀

[@brunomunyai4638]

Andre 3k! Amazing! But I think it is obvious that this was bait from Drake. I also do think Kanye has another album in the works, and Drake is always lurking and ready. Never does anything by nistake.. But yes, Andre 3000 is really what he thinks he is! Good Lord!!

[@t-god2439]

He dissed pusha by mistake 🤣

[@t-god2439]

He also torn his acl on stage by accident

[@brunomunyai4638]

@@t-god2439 Tore*

[@t-god2439]

@@brunomunyai4638 thanks bro

[@MannieSdot]

Big Boi and Andre 3000 have different topics. Both introspective and detailed, just different subject matter. But when they’re both in their pocket 😅. Andre has a mystic man of mystery vibe. Big Boi has stayed consistent and clearly has bills to pay. Big Boi was accepted by his peers early on before Andre was in the 90’s. The moral of this rant don’t sleep on Big Boi. Let’s just appreciate both of them and their bodies of work.

[@theexclusiveedition]

Crazy. Jay is my goat. But I gotta agree. The ONE guy who had the potential to topple the throne in 3 stacks

[@nechadi]

As much as I love 3k, unfortunately he’s just a little too left field for most people.

[@nerdbamarich2063]

@Phantom Freeze your opinion.

[@xxdevin007]

@Phantom Freeze 🧢

[@xxdevin007]

@Phantom Freeze You full of bad takes 😂

[@nerdbamarich2063]

@Phantom Freeze your opinion isn't a fact no matter how many emojis you use to laugh at your own opinion.

[@aaronbazil]

Here's the answer to this entire debate: Kendrick is Andre 3000s successor. Kenny's flow is 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒍𝒚 𝒊𝒏𝒇𝒍𝒖𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆𝒅 by 3Stacks. Kendrick went places with that flow that Andre hadn't gone with it and he never recovered from the first time Kendrick played him GKMC. What's 3 Stacks gonna say with that kinda wordplay and flow that Kendrick hasn't already made? Just like how Top Dawg is the better successor of Suge Knight. One laid the blueprint, another took it opened so many doors with it. A student usually surpasses the master at some point. And also, Drake is the natural successor to HOV. No he's not a street dude, but with everything considered and how he moves, he's my generation's greater successor of HOV. He just moves like a young man in some ways, but his business,and product, and connections are always on point whether you like him or not. It's just facts. Kanye wanted so much to be the successor to HOV, but Drake is.

[@ZavianN11]

The track is clearly not finished and its way better than everything on CLB

[@Skullhead550]

Lies lmao

[@tdup191]

@@Skullhead550 there isn't one track on CLB tht give eargazm like Life of Party on top of it gets extra points for being a diss

[@thugLuv7205]

Not a chance

[@onyxonyx4744]

True but Donda was experimental nonsense for the most part. This song WOULD NOT have saved that album.

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

A lot of people don’t know that Outkast are part of the production team with their deejay, Mr. DJ, called Earthtone 3. Andre didn’t produced anything by himself on Outkast albums.

[@keithwilliams1018]

Andre 3000 easily top 10...thats without debate...we need more Andre music to solidify him top 5....shit he could be number 1...I swear every verse Andre raps is 10/10 and he only drops a verse every 3 to 4 years.

[@6thbr871]

You bugging, top 40 maybe, nowhere near top 20, it’s too many rappers.

[@jaycespades8360]

Nah I have Common over 3k, 3k never had a solo album.

[@dd120398]

@@6thbr871 he's def top 20. He's missing the body of work but whos really bouta outrap this man aside from Common, Black Thought, or Lupe? There are definitely people that can rap with him but they gon sweat that verse out.

[@danieloluronti2140]

How do you rate someone number 2 best rapper alive for features , I use to think joe know something, he didn't

[@markeithjackson6895]

Because 3k might be the most talented lyricist ever

[@jeffjdmv]

Andre being in a group is like when people try to diminish Kobe’s accomplishments by saying he played with Shaq. Yeah. AND he still KILLED.

[@Priddyboiicrls]

Yea but he still played with SHAQ😭😭 it’s unfortunate but you do lose points when goat convos start

[@PresidentJackBauer]

There is no "better" than the other at that level. It comes down to person preference, style and content. Once you are in the conversation you've won. If people argue whether you should be in the conversation, then you aren't in the conversation.

[@WestSideBarson]

Y'all not gonna act like the love below don't exist. Talking bout no solo albums. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@1manbrix]

Mfs don’t like to count that cuz it’s a double disc joint album kinda thing but I feel U that should count

[@WestSideBarson]

@@1manbrix yeah it was double disc but each one was still solo they were on one song of each album lol. That album made way for the sound Cudi popularized which led to Kanye which led to Travis Scott which leads to most sound today nah count that lol.

[@2Way23]

Dude was barely rapping on the love below.

[@WestSideBarson]

@@2Way23 and still paved the way for current day music 😂😂

[@6thbr871]

@@WestSideBarson lol the current day artist don’t even acknowledge Andre 3000, especially not in Atlanta where he’s from.

[@kravon2315]

Jid and Andre need a collab

[@k.f.harris4072]

Kudos to y’all for finally talking truth, Andre 3000 is one of the GOATs

[@XenReMM]

Big Boi’s Flow is Too Fye 🔥🔥🔥frfr tung twisting n all that

[@robdrix8413]

“Shut up Kanye. Go find god” 😂😂😂

[@curtjack4198]

Search Shut up or kill me By paid killa & thank me later on 💜💜

[@darlaigbokie1653]

I would have thought as the best & 2nd best they should have an album as classic as illmatic and Nas is stil out here out rapping both Joe’s greatest rapper & 2nd greatest 😂😂😂😂

[@dontescriber6520]

I was thinking the same , one of the reasons I don’t watch this podcast because of these silly ass things Joe say, if Jayz would’ve made KD2 Joe would be going crazy lol, 2nd greatest rapper alive whatever!!!! Respect to 3k but no solo catalog to judge

[@darlaigbokie1653]

@@dontescriber6520 right… 😆 Joe’s opinion will always remain his.. some are solid and some are as weak as his rap career. 1st of, if 3 stack is that great he wld be confident enough to release his own Project… he’s in the Top 15 for me. Jayz is the 2nd most influential Rapper after Pac, and the 3rd best after Nas & bigg.. in my opinion just going on the essence of HipHop is between Big & Nas, IMO. Nas has enough materials to put him as No1. Over big. Most of Nas best work don’t have bunch of features on them like Jayz. For me to regard a rapper as the best u need to be able to carry yourself without lots of help ( called features🤣) on albums.

[@markeithjackson6895]

@@darlaigbokie1653 what pac and big can't be in a top 5 list because they barley have a resume plus what about individual talent if we talking individual lyricist 3k so much better than pac and big easily and I love pac and big and nas is great but 3k better than he and Jay lyrically plus 3k resume is better than nas he was a huge part of outkast success plus being top 3or5 lyricist make him not really need a solo because outkast success plus individual skills is a huge part of a artist.

[@markeithjackson6895]

Nas is great and top 5or10 and he is still out rapping artist today but he has like 10 albums and only 2 was really good the great one being the one you mentioned and I might take him over jay because nas is better lyrically but 3k is easily better than nas lyrically and also outkast resume is so much better than nas they have like 3or4 classic albums not to mention they're the last hip-hop artists to win album of the yr at the grammys so to say nas better than Joe 1and 2nd are incorrect because 3k is better than nas and yeah no solo projects but do he really need it if he's that great lyrically plus he was apart of maybe THE Greatest hip-hop duel ever I say no .

[@OmarScruggs]

Joe hates Nas low key. Something happened he wont say but his bias against Nas is something more to it

[@wildshark9248]

All I know is the greatest is Lil Wayne

[@RailzPrideRock]

Parks don’t play about Andre ever 😂😂😂

[@tyshelley9764]

Nas is 🐏! Scarface is never in this debate.

[@icecreamjones1]

'Til I collapse', Sir.