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@CharlieBeveridge
@CharlieBeveridge Жыл бұрын
I think i saw these Warlord docs when they were on TV, but watching a second time has been amazing.. Thank you all involved..
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 8 ай бұрын
A good summarization of some of the dynamics between FDR and Churchill.
@MrMaxcat32
@MrMaxcat32 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much from a 55 year old American male , who always appreciates those unsung heroes of freedom from our past & so God bless 💕 Hedy Lamarr, quite the American lady 🥀💯 🇺🇸
@CodyHarper-j3k
@CodyHarper-j3k 3 ай бұрын
Well Roosevelt didn't do anything it was all Churchill. Roosevelt is the weakest leader in history of this country besides Biden and Camel Harris
@jryecart8017
@jryecart8017 2 ай бұрын
In the 1940s, few Hollywood actresses were more famous and more famously beautiful than Hedy Lamarr. Yet despite starring in dozens of films and gracing the cover of every Hollywood celebrity magazine, few people knew Hedy was also a gifted inventor. In fact, one of the technologies she co-invented laid a key foundation for future communication systems, including GPS, Bluetooth and WiFi. “Hedy always felt that people didn't appreciate her for her intelligence-that her beauty got in the way,” says Richard Rhodes, a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian who wrote a biography about Hedy. After working 12- or 15-hour days at MGM Studios, Hedy would often skip the Hollywood parties or carousing with one of her many suitors and instead sit down at her “inventing table.” The Hollywood Actress Who Invented WiFi “Hedy had a drafting table and a whole wall full of engineering books. It was a serious hobby,” says Rhodes, author of Hedy's Folly: The Life and Breakthrough Inventions of Hedy Lamarr, the Most Beautiful Woman in the World. While not a trained engineer or mathematician, Hedy Lamarr was an ingenious problem-solver. Most of her inventions were practical solutions to everyday problems, like a tissue box attachment for depositing used tissues or a glow-in-the-dark dog collar. It was during World War II, that she developed “frequency hopping,” an invention that’s now recognized as a fundamental technology for secure communications. She didn’t receive credit for the innovation until very late in life. SOURCE, HISTORY COM
@alanaadams7440
@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын
I think we should not underestimate Churchill. He figured Stalin out early on and rightly he was wary of him
@beowulf1312
@beowulf1312 Жыл бұрын
Unlike Roosevelt who was a fellow traveller of the Bolsheviks.
@Trancymind
@Trancymind Жыл бұрын
Stalin- enslaved 20 million people and killed around 25-30 million people. Most of them died from hunger.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
@@beowulf1312 Tell me how many of your colonies voted on being your colonies. It's just genocide and suppression when the other side does it right?
@pamelaiverson5527
@pamelaiverson5527 Жыл бұрын
Underestimate Churchill? Only a fool does that. He kept his country together, encouraged them to believe that victory was possible and made the tough decisions lesser men would have shied away from. He fought at Yalta for the Poles, while Roosevelt was happy to leave them under Russian dominance and then was blamed for how things turned out for Poland. He warned both Roosevelt and Truman about Stalin and was ignored, obviously Americans knew better than anyone else. They could ‘work’ with the mass murderer and take his word. Look how that turned out. He wasn’t perfect by any means, he had his failures as we all know but at that moment in time he was indeed the voice in the wilderness.
@lenwilkinson672
@lenwilkinson672 Жыл бұрын
@@pamelaiverson5527 Churchill is now defiled by those who where not born,defiled by the woke left and by many of immigrants who talk the hind leg off a donkey about things they conjure up and know nothing about as they weren’t even born.Had we lost the war,they wouldn’t be here today.
@oscarmadison8530
@oscarmadison8530 Жыл бұрын
War stories is far more informative and entertaining than the tidy bowl.
@BlAcKpHrAcK
@BlAcKpHrAcK Жыл бұрын
The rotten Uber Bowel.
@doogleticker5183
@doogleticker5183 9 ай бұрын
It is often biased…but what POV isn’t?
@AnakinSkywakka
@AnakinSkywakka 9 ай бұрын
​@@doogleticker5183In what ways, I am actually curious.
@lorellemorris1391
@lorellemorris1391 Жыл бұрын
Wrong Queen Elizabeth was not the Monarch ar this time. It was her father King George vi
@shawk8365
@shawk8365 Жыл бұрын
Referring to King George's wife. Queen Elizabeth..
@kolasom
@kolasom Жыл бұрын
I was wondering!!
@chrischetland9642
@chrischetland9642 Жыл бұрын
King George VI wife was Elizabeth Bowes Lyon so Queen Elizabeth is correct.
@iriscollins7583
@iriscollins7583 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrischetland9642Queen Consort.
@alanaadams7440
@alanaadams7440 8 ай бұрын
Elizabeth crowned in 1952
@Capitalist_Pig314
@Capitalist_Pig314 9 ай бұрын
I am an American. This was a very good documentary. At many times the Nazis could’ve been strangled in the cradle in the mid 30s or earlier by France and Britain. And they didn’t you can’t go back in time and change something when they were standing alone against the Germans, we should’ve been more supportingand we should’ve gotten in the war earlier with our troops and our weapons. Roosevelt comes off as a wishy-washy politician. I don’t know why he’s thought of as a great president. His policies prolonged the great depression for one thing. Churchill is probably the greatest man of the 20th century.
@ralphbernhard1757
@ralphbernhard1757 8 ай бұрын
It was strategy. Germany was "used" to balance out the rise of the SU. The Limitrophe States like Poland, were the pivot, and the "wall" which were supposed to keep Nazism and Stalinism apart.
@philpryor7524
@philpryor7524 8 ай бұрын
Hopeless analysis and investigation.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 8 ай бұрын
Churchill was an Imperliastic pig and only came to a country they couldn't colonize out of desperation
@timothyayers8596
@timothyayers8596 4 ай бұрын
The US population was heavily antiwar. FDR could not have entered the war until Pearl Harbor. Plus FDR had a strategy and it worked to position the United States as the last man standing making them the largest superpower. Too bad the US blew it
@sharongelfand5065
@sharongelfand5065 4 ай бұрын
@@ralphbernhard1757 interesting. Never heard that.
@jacobc4582
@jacobc4582 Жыл бұрын
Who needs the Super Bowl when you have War Stories?
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m all good the Virtue Signal Bowl.
@jacobc4582
@jacobc4582 Жыл бұрын
@@negativeindustrial same. NFL is rigged
@indi3066
@indi3066 Жыл бұрын
@@negativeindustrial 👍
@tundranomad
@tundranomad Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a hemorrhoid than watch the super bowl.
@wyatberp3611
@wyatberp3611 Жыл бұрын
You mean the hype bowl..
@mikekincaid7412
@mikekincaid7412 Жыл бұрын
All history channel docs are fabulous.. limited in volume yea but great ..never get bored watching them..
@Smudgeroon74
@Smudgeroon74 Жыл бұрын
@mikekincaid7412 the History channel is not a reliable source for accurate history. It's far too mainstream, leaving out essential information with outright untruths.
@MWM-dj6dn
@MWM-dj6dn Жыл бұрын
I thank you for your great effort in providing accurate, useful and wonderful information on your esteemed channel. A thousand greetings of respect, appreciation and pride. I wish you success and progress in your wonderful work. Much respect
@jamesroxy1615
@jamesroxy1615 Жыл бұрын
P ppl l00😊
@ElGrandoCaymano
@ElGrandoCaymano Жыл бұрын
Error at 3:43. Although they did meet in Jun 1918, Churchill was not "then Britain's first lord of the admiralty", rather that post was held by Sir Eric Geddes. Although Churchill had been a prior First Sea Lord, he resigned in Nov 1915 after the Dardanelles campaign and prior to the US's entry into the war.
@kirithathi9070
@kirithathi9070 Жыл бұрын
❤❤
@daejavue69
@daejavue69 Жыл бұрын
Well done on doing the research & gave the accurate & true version of events . As a born & bred Brit my interest in our British History is constant curious especially the relationship across the pond . The comment of Roosevelt on Churchill in 1918 was bad statesmanship added to my knowledge & still being added too & why I'm so interested in this vidio ..
@glenbinnie2086
@glenbinnie2086 Жыл бұрын
Correct, Churchill had got back into office as Minister of Munitions in 1918 but was not as influential as he had been at the Admiralty. Shows the importance of “being nice to people on the way up, because you you might meet them again (when you’re both at the top)”
@MarkHarrison733
@MarkHarrison733 Жыл бұрын
Churchill resigned because he had caused the sinking of RMS Lusitania. The US sided with France and the British Empire from the very beginning of World War I, as it would during World War II.
@stevemills9982
@stevemills9982 9 ай бұрын
Churchill was not the First Sea Lord. That is a military post for an Admiral, heading the Royal Navy. He had been the First Lord of the Admiralty, a political appointment.
@tobys4197
@tobys4197 3 ай бұрын
Thank you from an American who did not live during this time. This is excellent. This was not taught to us in school.
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill; "Empires, just don't bargain." American Attorney General, Robert Jackson; "Republics do."
@Roodski
@Roodski Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t even a good bargain either 🙄 British and their empire boohoo
@daleburrell6273
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
​@@Roodski ...NOTHING is "FOREVER"- not in THIS world-(!)
@jugbywellington1134
@jugbywellington1134 Жыл бұрын
@@Roodski "Boohoo"? That's what an increasing number of people are sayng about the USA these days.
@Roodski
@Roodski Жыл бұрын
@@jugbywellington1134 at least we never called ourselves an “empire”
@jugbywellington1134
@jugbywellington1134 Жыл бұрын
@@Roodski You make that sound like a bad thing. I suggest you watch Team America: that's how we see you.
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Bravo!!
@michaelgeraghty3989
@michaelgeraghty3989 Жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary. I wasn't aware of Roosevelt's view of Stalin and the USSR as a postwar ally rather than the threat that Churchill correctly envisioned.
@michaelcelani8325
@michaelcelani8325 Жыл бұрын
Churchill was an inconsistant man with many major defeats in his resume. ( Gallipoli in. WW1. ) Plus Britain had. DEFAULTED on their WW1 debt to the USA. in a arrogant and bullying way. That occured in the early 1930's and is almost never reported. That is a MAJOR reason Roosevelt did not trust Churchill or the British government. Also , Churchill was a drunk., and that is always a problem.
@EvonneThibert
@EvonneThibert Жыл бұрын
I was living back then: born in August 1940! I never knew that Roosevelt & Churchill didn’t care for each other for many years! I was just shocked!!! 😢🙏😇🫶
@EvonneThibert
@EvonneThibert Жыл бұрын
P.S. Excellent documentary!!!
@thehealthychefri
@thehealthychefri Жыл бұрын
@@EvonneThibert Stalin was the Boss in the Big Three! Both FDR and Churchill, aristocrats and the winner of the Great was was a poor son of a cobbler.
@Smudgeroon74
@Smudgeroon74 Жыл бұрын
@michaelgeraghty3989 did you know that there was a Soviet Union invasion plan of Europe by June 1941. Operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike by Germany and her 5 allies(Romania, Croatia, Finland, Italy and Hungary. There was also 2 divisions of Belgian troops and 47,000 Spanish volunteers, albeit Spain was neutral) to crush the threat of Bolshevism forever. The Russians had 170 divisions of soldiers at Germany's eastern front in June 1941. They were getting ready to invade Europe. Soviet leader Kruschev admitted this fact after Stalin died in 1955. But this is never talked about...
@samanthafordyce5795
@samanthafordyce5795 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's worry about Churchill's over-use of alcohol denies the fact that his own use of alcohol was also excessive.
@JACB006
@JACB006 9 ай бұрын
Well done Mr Churchill … America can be and was a “Fair Weather Friend” with self interest at heart.
@veronicathomson5866
@veronicathomson5866 7 ай бұрын
Think Ukraine.
@sharongelfand5065
@sharongelfand5065 5 ай бұрын
In fairness, FDR had to wait till public opinion shifted in order to enter the war.
@timothyayers8596
@timothyayers8596 4 ай бұрын
@@veronicathomson5866 The UK is a huge Ukraine Hawk
@ET-bg8ru
@ET-bg8ru 4 ай бұрын
Just like the Brits… takes one to know one. Great recession comes to mind.
@MWM-dj6dn
@MWM-dj6dn Жыл бұрын
A wonderful channel that deserves all respect, appreciation and pride. Accurate and useful information in a sophisticated and beautiful manner. I wish you lasting success. I have the utmost respect and admiration for your great honor for these wonderful works. I hope you success
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet." ― Abraham Lincoln
@timothytakang5407
@timothytakang5407 Жыл бұрын
Abraham Lincoln??
@supa3ek
@supa3ek Жыл бұрын
lincoln wasnt even around when the internet was invented lol
@jordanngolden9341
@jordanngolden9341 9 ай бұрын
@@supa3ek that's the joke
@mylegalassistants
@mylegalassistants 9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@briangraham1024
@briangraham1024 8 ай бұрын
No No, long before then Lincoln said that on telivision. 😂
@pablopeter3564
@pablopeter3564 Жыл бұрын
At the end, as far as Stalin goal to dominate Central and East Europe, Churchill was right. It was a nightmare that lasted almost 50 years.
@davidarchibald50
@davidarchibald50 Жыл бұрын
The nightmare has not ended. In restless sleep, dreams fever our night, we rouse awhile, then fall back into darkness.
@pablopeter3564
@pablopeter3564 Жыл бұрын
@@davidarchibald50 You are right 100%. The nightmare has lasted too long, the Russians are still a menace and will remain so.
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's administration had up to 2,000 employees actually working as agents for the USSR. His administration protected them. The US military broke the code for the cables between the Soviet delegation in the US and Moscow, and when Roosevelt's wife Eleanore was informed of this, she notified the Soviets. She betrayed her own country for the communist regime. Roosevelt had as his most important aid a man named Harry Hopkins, who actually lived with the Roosevelts in the White House. He was named as one of the Soviet's most important agents after the fall of the USSR by a former Soviet spy chief. .... Roosevelt brought a dramatic increase in central control to the US domestically. One of the originators of fascism, Mussolini, referred to Roosevelt as a fellow fascist. Roosevelt broke the tradition of running for only 2 terms as president, and ran 4 times even though he was very ill. He threatened to pack the supreme court with his yes men in order to push through his authoritarian fascist system, which actually prolonged significantly the Great Depression according to modern academic research
@h.e.hazelhorst9838
@h.e.hazelhorst9838 Жыл бұрын
The question is: did Roosevelt have any understanding of the atrocities that Stalin (and Lenin before him) had committed? The mass-murders, deportations, deliberate starvation… The allies didn’t also did not believe the rumors about mass executions and termination camps of the Germans during the war.
@MrDaiseymay
@MrDaiseymay Жыл бұрын
SHHHEEE__IT. I've never heard of that before. I know of the post war traitors giving Atomic secrets to the commies, and the infiltration of Britains Mi6, by the Cambridge 4(5). Throughout this excellent documentary, I was thinking that Roosevelt was suffering from Dementia.@@johnl5316
@blumobean
@blumobean Жыл бұрын
If Churchill was drunk, just imagine what he could have done sober.
@Sabotage_Labs
@Sabotage_Labs Жыл бұрын
Being drunk likely helped him lol...
@WyattBerry
@WyattBerry Жыл бұрын
Britain needed a charismatic drunkard to get through 1940, 1941 etc.
@nickjung7394
@nickjung7394 Жыл бұрын
His interest in alcohol did not affect his judgement....or his life span!
@jennyomalley7634
@jennyomalley7634 Жыл бұрын
Churchill King of sarcasm , Sarcasm being the lowest form of wit, he certainly was . If you read about him ( not the stuff written by sycophants ) he's not what the English make him out to be. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3PCeKZjZcmbhdE
@devannayar6456
@devannayar6456 Жыл бұрын
Frankly, nothing !
@elrond3737
@elrond3737 9 ай бұрын
Roosevelt was so very bad on understanding Stalin. Churchill with all his faults was heart and soul of the Allies.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 6 ай бұрын
WRONG
@tjw4947
@tjw4947 Жыл бұрын
Machiavelli would find himself in quite a contest with our Franklin. What a conniving s.o.b. he was.
@jryecart8017
@jryecart8017 4 ай бұрын
FDR blocked all 18 Black Olympians from the whitehouse celebration after 1936 Berlin games - - one of the 18 was 4X GOLD MEDALIST, JESSE OWENS
@nigellawson8610
@nigellawson8610 Жыл бұрын
I like the nickname Gen. Vinegar Joe Stilwell give Roosevelt. He referred to him as "Old Rubber Legs," which really sums up his character!
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
Well, I think FDR in a better light, now.
@n1mogator
@n1mogator Жыл бұрын
FDR saved the world from tearny!!! the doc is ify!!!
@Chris-lh7wj
@Chris-lh7wj Жыл бұрын
With the Nazis on their doorsteps and daily bombing raids by the Luftwaffe, I can’t help but to be in awe of the astounding resolve that was shown by Churchill, the RAF, and the general British population. I do wonder,as American, if most Brits today realize what their grandparents or great grandparents had to endure.
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 Жыл бұрын
Both my Grandfather's went through 2 WW fought in WW1. One crippled but the other an Air Raid Warden in WW2 in the Blitz
@richardsymonds5159
@richardsymonds5159 Жыл бұрын
My generation does being post war babies but I am not sure the next and subsequent generations do probably because the memories are not part of their lives like it was part of ours - different times and a lack of education in terms of history is the culprit - not politically correct to discuss it at school today they would far rather discuss the 150 genders!!
@Don-mu2qh
@Don-mu2qh Жыл бұрын
A lot of British people realize that Churchill's war cost the British their empire and their standing as world leader.
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 Жыл бұрын
@@Don-mu2qhThey realise because they know how to spell their language.
@iriscollins7583
@iriscollins7583 Жыл бұрын
​@@Don-mu2qhNow we have the Commonwealth
@watchthe1369
@watchthe1369 Жыл бұрын
Not surprised, both of them were powerful personalities and particularly intelligent, driving on the same roads, but both of them were used to different rules.
@cliveengel5744
@cliveengel5744 Жыл бұрын
The only reason Germany invaded France, Holland, and Belgium was because of the landing of British Expeditionary Forces in France in which they threatened their rear while Germany was trying to mobilize for an attack on the Soviet Union, which was always Germany’s goal, Lebensraum, growing room in the East. The UK and France were not the target. Soviet Union could provide oil, timber, minerals, natural gas, food of which the UK could not. They had no interest in the UK nor its Empire which was very alien to them. So what began as the Defense of Poland which in effect was never accomplished, the action by Britain and France effectively ended the British Empire with the signing of the Atlantic Charter in which FDR insisted on in order for Britain to receive help via the End Lease Act. FDR thought Churchil was a pompous man!
@watchthe1369
@watchthe1369 Жыл бұрын
@@cliveengel5744 Look up Von Schlieffen Plan and get back to me. They went through the low countries to get around the Maginot Line. The BEF was put in to enforce the Versailles Treaty which Germany had violated too many times already.
@cliveengel5744
@cliveengel5744 Жыл бұрын
@@watchthe1369 This had nothing to do with the Great Patriotic War and the landing of the BEF. Germain's focus was on Lebensraum - Growing Room in the East and not about France and the UK. The Great War was not only fought on the Western Front but in Central and Eastern Europe. It was the last war fought in Europe by these ridiculous Royal Families and consigned them to Regallia and to Marching bands. So the Von Battenbergs, the Romanovs, and the Bourbon Kings from then onwards were consigned to history, never again would they fight a war! Only the Feathered Caps, the Boars Head Dress, the Silk Sashes, the Swords, the Horses are seen on Bastille Day, during the Trooping of the Color and on Familiy occasion in pretending that they still run the Nation(s) You see thing only through a British view which as we know is just false. Read “My Beliefs” it was clearly started and Stalin already knew in 1933 that he would have to face Germany sooner or later. The British in their hastely signed Treaty with Warsaw, 30 Days before the Invasion of Poland, stumbled into a War they could not win and this cost them their Empire and in signing the Atlantic Treaty, they consigned themselves to be subordinates of the US, which continues to this day.
@ktvindicare
@ktvindicare Жыл бұрын
They werent driving on the same roads, the british drive on the wrong side.
@sharonprice42
@sharonprice42 11 ай бұрын
There is noreal comparisons between them .Churchill spent most of the war trying to get America into the war
@KOMET2006
@KOMET2006 3 ай бұрын
Speaking as an American with a lifelong fascination with history, I regard Franklin D. Roosevelt as one of the BEST Presidents the U.S. has ever had. Winston Churchill's chief virtue came from being made Prime Minister at a very critical moment in British history in which through the power of his oratory, he inspired Britain to continue the fight against the Third Reich - despite seemingly insurmountable odds - from May 1940 to December 1941 (when the U.S. entered the war). Yet, Churchill remained an unrepentant imperialist, determined to retain the British Empire. "His Majesty did not appoint me Chief Minister to preside over the liquidation of the British Empire."
@tjanderson5892
@tjanderson5892 3 ай бұрын
What’s funny is residing over the liquidation of the British Empire is exactly what Churchill did. Except his warmongering and superiority complex accelerated that liquidation by being willing to sell off the entire Empire in order to defeat Germany. Germany who never wanted war w/ Britain in the first place lol. Wonder if Churchill ever reflected on how much of the Empire would’ve been saved if Chamberlain had remained prime minister lol. Churchill lost the Empire for a war that he doesn’t even get credit for winning. That goes to the USSR and the US
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 2 ай бұрын
correct the inbreeding imperialists tried to to keel haul the Americans - twice so the fauntleroys had no big say in what we were to do
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 2 ай бұрын
@@KOMET2006 what country in the Continent are you from. I suspect the United States of buy nit it!
@frereM
@frereM 2 ай бұрын
Churchill received the greatest stroke of luck in regard to his halo-adorned legacy when Roosevelt died, thereby leaving him to paint himself as the great hero without fear of authoritative contradiction, an occupation that he very candidly stated that he would fulfill.
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 2 ай бұрын
@@KOMET2006 You are obviously from the United States of that Continent. All the other Countries in Anerica know the name of their Country.
@BallyBoy95
@BallyBoy95 Жыл бұрын
3:00 to 4:00 mark - Roosevelt refers to Churchill as more than just "a stinker." He describes Churchill as the single most arrogant person he had ever seen, or at least, words to that effect (been some years since I studied their relationship).
@robinpreese
@robinpreese Жыл бұрын
One Churchill is equal to 100 Roosevelt 🇬🇧
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 Жыл бұрын
Churchill had the experience of War and more informed than most. It was conclusions based on knowledge, not arrogance.
@lray1948
@lray1948 Жыл бұрын
And remember FDR had met Macarthur
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 Жыл бұрын
What FDR did not understand was Churchill had the experience and judgement to back his higher intellect.
@douglasturner6153
@douglasturner6153 Жыл бұрын
Churchill may have been like a mirror in front of Roosevelt. Got to be arrogant to go for 4th Term so ill. 😅
@allaneisner4729
@allaneisner4729 11 ай бұрын
What this documentary showed me is that Churchill deserves most of the credit for building an unlikely alliance with America that snapped them out of their self absorbed concerns. Whether or not that was a positive or a negative for the World as a whole his for real historians to decide!
@gracie3174
@gracie3174 2 ай бұрын
Poor Churchill had to beg and humble himself to Roosevelt. God bless Churchill who saved the world! A good and wise man.
@priyamastibhati
@priyamastibhati Ай бұрын
Saved “world”? How delusional!
@bobbyb379
@bobbyb379 Ай бұрын
@@priyamastibhati “what if” history is always a bit of a pointless exercise as it is impossible to know what would have happened. However, if the UK had capitulated in 1940, it’s very likely that the USSR would have fallen to the Germans. Similarly in the Pacific, the contribution of 2 million Indian soldiers fighting for the British against the Japanese would not have happened. And those Japanese soldiers (which comprised 80% of Imperial Japanese troops in the Pacific theatre) would have been freed up to fight the Americans - massively altering the dynamics of that conflict, particularly in the first 2 years where the US was massively on the backfoot. In all likelihood they would have been forced to sue for peace, leaving the Japanese to continue their conquest of China and Burma (Myanmar) and in all likelihood make a move against India. So, whilst we cannot prove it either way, the continuation of British involvement between the fall of France and Pearl Harbor, did have a massively positive impact on the world as we know it.
@peterbrewster7028
@peterbrewster7028 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant history of those relationships.
@dtaylor10chuckufarle
@dtaylor10chuckufarle Жыл бұрын
Sir Winston was right about Poland.
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs Жыл бұрын
He was right about a lot of things, however he sadly tried to bullishly push through his agenda because he had little patience, or use, for diplomacy.
@robertewing3114
@robertewing3114 Жыл бұрын
Chamberlain was right about Poland, April 1939 brought the world through to April 1945.
@roberttelarket4934
@roberttelarket4934 Жыл бұрын
The only thing Roosevelt assured giving Churchill plenty of in terms of supplies was liquor!!!
@MrAckers75
@MrAckers75 Жыл бұрын
In reality it was never the Americans that stopped the uk speaking German but it was the uk that stopped Americans speaking German
@beverlylevy6559
@beverlylevy6559 Жыл бұрын
One consideration many people fail to recall is how vast lands Britain controlled vs USA. They were neck and neck in their reach and influence.
@timothyayers8596
@timothyayers8596 4 ай бұрын
Britain was falling off and the US was rising up and soon overtook them
@Balthorium
@Balthorium Жыл бұрын
Giving weapons to the USSR and calling it the “Arsenal of Democracy”was a sick joke.
@timothyayers8596
@timothyayers8596 4 ай бұрын
Not really. If it were not for the USSR and the 11 million deaths they incurred Germany might have been way too much to deal with for both. Theres no question that Germany would have eventually been defeated but without Russia the US and Great Britain would have suffered massive amounts of death and destruction.
@jryecart8017
@jryecart8017 4 ай бұрын
FDR supported the KLAN by appointing Klansman HUGO BLACK as SCOTUS
@nickjung7394
@nickjung7394 Жыл бұрын
Stalin, of course, outmaneuvered Roosevelt completely! As Brooke pointed out in his diary, Stalin was the only leader that never lost his political and strategic direction
@davidfoster5906
@davidfoster5906 11 ай бұрын
How so? America dropped isolationism after pearl harbor. He then deregulated industry ,allowing us to become a industrial power house. Before 1941 we had less fighter planes than Britton . . We then fought a 2 front war from across the Pacific to across the Atlantic. If Stalin outmaneuvered Roosevelt then post war America has Stalin to thank for turning America to a capitalist democracy .
@Mark-yy2py
@Mark-yy2py Жыл бұрын
FDR had such a naive view of Stalin. Glad Truman didn’t, but by then, eastern Europe’s fate was sealed.
@sharongelfand5065
@sharongelfand5065 4 ай бұрын
@@Mark-yy2pyalso, I think FDR was fading fast by the time of his last joint conference. He gave Stalin the western buffer zone he'd been asking for.
@DisDanDat
@DisDanDat 3 ай бұрын
What proof do you have of this? Zero.
@Mark-yy2py
@Mark-yy2py 3 ай бұрын
@@DisDanDat read history. He wanted to please Stalin at the expense of losing all of Eastern Europe.
@DisDanDat
@DisDanDat 3 ай бұрын
@@Mark-yy2py I have read history, have you? Apparently not.
@sharongelfand5065
@sharongelfand5065 3 ай бұрын
@@Mark-yy2pyfor a time, FDR was playing up to Stalin at Churchill's expense. Churchill was very vexed about this.
@kenlodge3399
@kenlodge3399 Жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what. Have read and reviewed and seen every documentary about FDR and Churchill and I can say this about their relationship: FDR felt sorry for Churchill. In fact am sure over time it certainly became empathic, but there are parts of every relationship where it's often better Not to know what the other person is going thru. In fact I'll go as far as to share, at some point FDR knew he was fatally ill and that added to his sympathy for a man like Churchill. Most men who've climbed all the many peaks and ridden the avalanches down in the due course of things, FDR welcomed death. In too many ways and in spite of his wealth, the weight of the benefactor to the world, the leader of the free world just overcoming the greatest conflagration in the history of Man, FDR welcomed an end of it. And knowing his comrade was of similar stock, he did not envy him any.
@joelspringman523
@joelspringman523 Жыл бұрын
I don't think FDR had much of a conscience. He was a communist and a great admirer of Stalin.
@johnbrattan9341
@johnbrattan9341 11 ай бұрын
kenlodge. Really?
@PalofGrrr
@PalofGrrr 11 ай бұрын
Churchill knew that Germany if they conquered Europe would be able to conquer England, He would do any thing to save England
@terry4137
@terry4137 Жыл бұрын
I’m American however I respected Churchill more then I did Roosevelt!
@edwardng1496
@edwardng1496 6 ай бұрын
I respected both persons! I am thankful for leading the countries out of depression and winning the war!
@SusannePust-q7v
@SusannePust-q7v 4 ай бұрын
They both were evil men.
@jryecart8017
@jryecart8017 4 ай бұрын
@sus - - more CRT hatred of the "whyte" man ? .... ride ride rif the DEI NO FACTS exprrss
@dannytalley5559
@dannytalley5559 3 ай бұрын
How can you say that about the best president we ever had
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 2 ай бұрын
I doubt you have read and a real knowledge base on FDR.
@fk3095
@fk3095 Жыл бұрын
Who could ever forget that time the royal air force beat off the luftwaffe 13:40
@patriciapalmer4215
@patriciapalmer4215 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's effete urbanity had to drive Churchill mad.
@parkersmith7611
@parkersmith7611 Жыл бұрын
Hello Patricia how are you doing today?....Yes you are correct Roosevelt's effete had to drive Churchill mad...i hope you are enjoying the show?
@patriciapalmer4215
@patriciapalmer4215 Жыл бұрын
@@parkersmith7611 An absolute delight. I love well conceived and executed content. Thank you for inquiring. I hope you are doing well and have a Happy Easter !
@parkersmith7611
@parkersmith7611 Жыл бұрын
@@patriciapalmer4215 Yes i'm fine thanks for asking...where are you texting from?
@i.charles8658
@i.charles8658 Жыл бұрын
You must not underestimate the loyalty between both, especially their openness. Roosevelt bumped into a stark naked Churchill, leaving the bathroom "The Prime Minister of Great Britain has nothing to hide from the President of the United States"
@Paakun80914
@Paakun80914 Жыл бұрын
Only natural that Allies disagree. More so with heads of states of democracies.
@logicaredux5205
@logicaredux5205 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a series that has rid itself of the starry-eyed nonsense of “The Special Relationship.”
@beowulf1312
@beowulf1312 Жыл бұрын
Yes. That legend is false. Something Churchill invented to keep up British morale.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any information on “The Special Relationship.” ?
@iriscollins7583
@iriscollins7583 Жыл бұрын
World War one 1914 to 1918, America entered.1917 World War Two 1939 to 1945 America entered 1942. When Germany declared war on the USA. That tells you a lot.
@logicaredux5205
@logicaredux5205 Жыл бұрын
@@iriscollins7583 Yes! America was smart. I still wish we had managed to totally stay out of the first one.
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor Жыл бұрын
​@@iriscollins7583That tells you nothing more than America entered the war. It is naive not to ask 'Qui bono?'. What was in it for America? Especially as War is always an extension of economic and geopolitical policy. And when you look deeper into the international economic and geopolitical of the time, you will see more clues why America went to war in World War I and World War II. And how it reflects the adage that "Geopolitics is like a poker game, where everyone is lying." And half the game is working out who is lying, about what, and when.
@johncrossphd342
@johncrossphd342 Жыл бұрын
An interesting but ultimately absurd argument that Roosevelt tried to stay out of the war and cynically use the war to weaken the British Empire. First, there was no reason at the time for the US to join the war against Germany. Roosevelt was clearly anglophilic, however he had to avoid any appearance of wanting war. Like wilson in 1916, he had to run as an anti-war candidate in 1940, and couldnt just turn around and advocate war. Add to that the fact that Roosevelt readily went on with the concept of the "Europe First" strategy even though that made absolutely no sense to US interests, was extremely unpopular, and would be the last ting he would do if he really wanted to undermone British interests. And, BTW, there was no "Queen Elizabeth" in 1940 or 1941, or indeed at any time during the war. A huge gaff.
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor Жыл бұрын
Other than the Queen Elizabeth gaffe, you haven't really made your argument. If anything, the facts after the war proved that whatever Roosevelt's sentiments were, those of them that followed him, certainly extracted both economic and military concessions that weakened the British Empire after the war.
@pedanticradiator1491
@pedanticradiator1491 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigHenFor they may have meant King George VI'S wife who was called Queen Elizabeth
@sedekiman
@sedekiman Жыл бұрын
@@pedanticradiator1491 Yes, documentary not that stupid. King George V1, and Queen Elizabeth. And while I am here, the US so the bastion of Freedom wanted to stay out of the conflict that was going to overrun Europe. Doing nothing for democracy.
@glorgau
@glorgau Жыл бұрын
Europe first was entirely in US interests. Firstly, Germany could not be allowed to solidify its hold on Europe, it was always a far greater threat than Japan. Secondly, the US and Britain did not know how far along the Germans were with the atomic bomb.
@johncollins7062
@johncollins7062 Жыл бұрын
@@glorgau Exactly correct! The only reason Japan attacked Pearl Harbor was because it was already crippled by a U.S. led embargo.
@MWM-dj6dn
@MWM-dj6dn Жыл бұрын
ALL THE TIME YOU ARE THE BEST IN THE BEST
@janveit2226
@janveit2226 Жыл бұрын
A very interesting show.
@billotto602
@billotto602 6 ай бұрын
Thank God they were able to overcome their differences. For the sake of the free world.
@dxdynamite47
@dxdynamite47 6 ай бұрын
Every time a modern Yank declares that America singlehandedly won the war, show them this video and remind them who did all the work, and who was a lying backstabber.
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's administration had up to 2,000 employees actually working as agents for the USSR. His administration protected them. The US military broke the code for the cables between the Soviet delegation in the US and Moscow, and when Roosevelt's wife Eleanore was informed of this, she notified the Soviets. She betrayed her own country for the communist regime. Roosevelt had as his most important aid a man named Harry Hopkins, who actually lived with the Roosevelts in the White House. He was named as one of the Soviet's most important agents after the fall of the USSR by a former Soviet spy chief. .... Roosevelt brought a dramatic increase in central control to the US domestically. One of the originators of fascism, Mussolini, referred to Roosevelt as a fellow fascist. Roosevelt broke the tradition of running for only 2 terms as president, and ran 4 times even though he was very ill. He threatened to pack the supreme court with his yes men in order to push through his authoritarian fascist system, which actually prolonged significantly the Great Depression according to modern academic research.....He was obviously a destructive force.
@Kurtlane
@Kurtlane Жыл бұрын
Could you provide the sources regarding Eleanore informing the Soviets. Thanks.
@Tyronepeader
@Tyronepeader Жыл бұрын
Wild lunatic-Right slurs and unfounded smears on the reputation of an exceptional war-time President and his administration. Shameful.😮
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
@@Kurtlane I gave that book away, but I will look for it
@vickihatley4041
@vickihatley4041 Жыл бұрын
Who really Needs regular T.V. if U have History A Must 4 People that still want 2 learn r just watch again 💙💠
@charlielauffer7644
@charlielauffer7644 3 ай бұрын
I highly recommend this, which shows one the real world of politics in history and the ruthless intelligence that is required to play on the world stage. Only 50 minutes, very quick in depth study.
@kalcuthbert3090
@kalcuthbert3090 3 ай бұрын
churchill was the better leader hands down
@marinazagrai1623
@marinazagrai1623 Ай бұрын
Kal...I am not British, a European who has lived in the US. The whole point of an empire is that it has to be maintained...it can be defended at any time and Churchill, couldn't without the aid of the US. Churchill, also, forgot what WWI was about, dismantling the old empires - people were able to create their own countries and have their own lives. While I am no big fan of FDR, either, Britain would have crumbled without US aid and manpower (lots of American servicemen gave their lives to help in that awful war).
@kalcuthbert3090
@kalcuthbert3090 Ай бұрын
@@marinazagrai1623 i have studied that the problem with the british empire was manufacturing not manpower, they needed the production ability of the states nothing more , or it would have dragged out longer, canada could produce the rescources as we have more than anyone except maybe russia and thats a maybe as our north not explored well but we had a small pop 6 million same as manufaCTURING, we created our own but not in the numbers needed, same as england but england needed the rescources and they were getting sunk by wolf packs, that part was fixed around 42 i think with bombers and sonar. You are wrong the luftwaffe was beat after battle of britain, operation seawulf cancelled. the russians finished off the troop part at stalingrad the states helped but were not the deciding factor , but a darn good ace up your sleeve churchill played his cards right
@Joker-no1uh
@Joker-no1uh Ай бұрын
Judging by the nation's outcome after the war, Roosevelt was by far the better leader. Britain was broke and a dying empire. The US was rich and had a monopoly on nukes. Very powerful.
@kalcuthbert3090
@kalcuthbert3090 Ай бұрын
@@Joker-no1uh well of course they went broke they had to pay the usa for armaments because you held out like in ww1
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 6 ай бұрын
Roosevelt had always known that war with both Germany and Japan was inevitable. During the 1930s, he built up U.S. infrastructure, with dam projects, roads and forest products, and resource development. He established military bases, including naval, army, and airbases using the CCC and WPA, in conjunction with the TVA. Without Roosevelt's foresight, the U.S. response would have been far too slow and small. As it turned out, the U.S. was able to leap with both feet into immediate wartime production.
@Davidfooterman
@Davidfooterman Жыл бұрын
It seems that the American people were more inclined to actively support Britain than Roosevelt himself, who might have been quite a danger to British interests in 1941.
@1USACitizen192
@1USACitizen192 7 ай бұрын
He was a communist.
@loladavinci1243
@loladavinci1243 Жыл бұрын
Your promo code does not work ...
@elielalonde3714
@elielalonde3714 Жыл бұрын
At 34:49, The narrator states 'Chuchill confides to Queen Elizabeth...'. George VI was the king then. What a stupid mistake,,,,,
@0cgw
@0cgw Жыл бұрын
Queen Elizabeth was Elizabeth II's mother, and married to George VI.
@scottklocke891
@scottklocke891 8 ай бұрын
I believe George VI wife was name Elizabeth, Queen Consort.
@micksherman7709
@micksherman7709 Жыл бұрын
As I kid I was taught and I read that FDR and Churchill were best buds. I was shocked when I realised the truth.
@Davidfooterman
@Davidfooterman Жыл бұрын
Hitler’s declaration of war against the United States is the most powerful testimony to his egomania: how could he have been so dumb; or is this an unfair, teleological assessment from a position of knowledgeable retrospect?
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's administration had up to 2,000 employees actually working as agents for the USSR. His administration protected them. The US military broke the code for the cables between the Soviet delegation in the US and Moscow, and when Roosevelt's wife Eleanore was informed of this, she notified the Soviets. She betrayed her own country for the communist regime. Roosevelt had as his most important aid a man named Harry Hopkins, who actually lived with the Roosevelts in the White House. He was named as one of the Soviet's most important agents after the fall of the USSR by a former Soviet spy chief. .... Roosevelt brought a dramatic increase in central control to the US domestically. One of the originators of fascism, Mussolini, referred to Roosevelt as a fellow fascist. Roosevelt broke the tradition of running for only 2 terms as president, and ran 4 times even though he was very ill. He threatened to pack the supreme court with his yes men in order to push through his authoritarian fascist system, which actually prolonged significantly the Great Depression according to modern academic research.....He was obviously a destructive force.
@Davidfooterman
@Davidfooterman Жыл бұрын
@@johnl5316 The mixture of revulsion and disbelief at the behavior of Mrs. Roosevelt [forget the ‘Eleanor’ bit that gets this unelected pseudo-President a more elevated profile of her own than is appropriate in her particular case] suggests that, despite everything we might not like, our modernity, more specifically in its media-related elements, has come a long way forward in a positive direction from those awful days when all kinds of patrician arrogance among the so-called elites of ‘the Allies’ blighted this country and its politics. We got through WWII despite, not because of them, and their efforts. This negative generalization is entitled, if not obliged, to be considered because of the misinformed, hero-worshipping generalizations that are made in favor of those that managed that war. I had some spirited ‘discussions’ with my parents and relatives on this subject. Once they got over the ‘how dare you?!’ nonsense, one or two, notably, I’m proud to say, my father came round to my (generation’s) way of thinking. In fact, my father became quite unimpressed with Tom Brokaw and his pompous, simpering approach to war heroes, especially when he interviewed ‘leaders’ who were just politicians with the gift-of-the-gab who had no idea what the end of a gun barrel looked like from head-on. I have distrusted every British and American politician involved in any kind of war anywhere, ever since.
@Davidfooterman
@Davidfooterman Жыл бұрын
Over the years, I have come to believe that Churchill, the patrician, was able to think like and empathize with the common man, although it didn’t look like it. However, FDR had no such insight; but then, Churchill was a writing historian, a self-aware literary mind, and a man with understanding and empathy for the common man (even though it and he might not appear that way) despite his privileged upbringing. FDR was a thinker and a strategist of his time and place, and one of great stature, but I question whether he had that deeper and more emotionally colored insight that stems from a literary and historical immersion of the type Churchill had despite his privileged upbringing. I’m speculating; I’m being opinionated; and I may be totally incorrect; but I need the benefit of a dialectic critique of what I’m suggesting. Did Churchill, the historian-type, have more insight than FDR? It’s a very provocative question, especially to those familiar with FDR’s role in the New Deal, the National Recovery Administration, and the ending of Prohibition.
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
@@Davidfooterman see comments by john5316
@chriscolton6329
@chriscolton6329 Жыл бұрын
They were all a bunch of back stabbing psychopaths, they were politicians. There's no friends in that game. It staggers me how naive people are with the likes of Churchill and FDR, still thinking they were heroes. Look what happened to Patton when he became too outspoken about the future Soviet threat at the end pf the war.
@samsungtap4183
@samsungtap4183 11 ай бұрын
Absolute nonsense, true Patton was a embarrassment but could have been sent home with a stroke of a pen. The troble Patton had was he was a very average 3-star general that was out of the loop. Whilst plans were being drawn up for war with Soviets there was good ol George mouthing off to the media
@carolecarr5210
@carolecarr5210 Жыл бұрын
Churchill was too "demanded" ! He was a snob, but yet exactly what ,Britain need at that point in history.
@coloniser.-
@coloniser.- Жыл бұрын
not really. a peace deal by lord halifax would most likely secured a future of a better Europe
@dominiclane8538
@dominiclane8538 Жыл бұрын
​@@coloniser.-pfffft lmao what planet you from
@coloniser.-
@coloniser.- Жыл бұрын
@@dominiclane8538 agartha
@marcelcicort9671
@marcelcicort9671 11 ай бұрын
The sad end is that Roosevelt was duped by Stalin and we all know the result of that...
@1USACitizen192
@1USACitizen192 7 ай бұрын
Roosevelt was a communist.
@bhattkris
@bhattkris Жыл бұрын
It ignores the role the sister-in-law of Churchill had in the war, which was as important as the Pearl Harbour attack.
@MarkAJohnsonEDLDFall
@MarkAJohnsonEDLDFall Жыл бұрын
What did Churchill's sister-in-law do?
@bhattkris
@bhattkris Жыл бұрын
Read Liberty or death by Patrick French.
@patrickelliott-brennan8960
@patrickelliott-brennan8960 Жыл бұрын
@@bhattkris Why not just summarise it? The person asked a quite straightforward question. Did she make tea the wrong way?
@alfredpaquin3563
@alfredpaquin3563 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt described Churchill as "A real stinker."😂
@JACB006
@JACB006 9 ай бұрын
Churchill had a better choice of words for Roosevelt.
@saltyroe3179
@saltyroe3179 Жыл бұрын
He problem for Roosevelt is that Britain was trying to maintain the biggest Empire in history with aid from an anti Empire USA. The UK was seen as a threat to US Sovereignty. There were many in the US who looked at the UK as an evil Empirical force and an existential threat. The UK, from who we separated seemed to have dreams of colonizing us again. As late as 1900 there was talk in the US of freeing Canada from the UK. The US was more sympathetic to the British Colonies that suffered under British rule. Churchill represented the old order of Empires that the USA opposed. Even in the 1950s the US was suspicious of the UK trying to keep its Empire. We could have helped the UK and France win the Suez crisis. Then there is the fact that Japan was a bigger threat to the US then Germany. This included much of the US population feeling we should focus on defeating Japan 1st and let the Soviets and Germans grind themselves down.
@Dr.God-666
@Dr.God-666 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the 1940s... When world leaders had an IQ above that of a goldfish.
@johncarroll772
@johncarroll772 Жыл бұрын
Or a potato 🥔
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs Жыл бұрын
Well, without social media and 24 hour news, it was much easier to be stupid and get away with it. Provided, of course, those working for you have more intellect than a goldfish or a potato.
@wo4091
@wo4091 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt didn't. He helped subject the people of East Europe to 44 years of tyranny
@theknifedude1881
@theknifedude1881 Жыл бұрын
Comparing them to politicians makes the fish look bad.
@yoyyoy6376
@yoyyoy6376 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but these guys made the same mistakes leaders make today if not more, do glorify these dead men
@Outlier999
@Outlier999 Жыл бұрын
As a combat veteran of four wars Churchill knew the horrors of combat far better than slacker Roosevelt.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
Ya sure - Gallipoli getting others killed for his overlords selfish Imperial Pursuits
@jamesdownes3284
@jamesdownes3284 Жыл бұрын
​@@bigwoody4704🤫
@irinbree895
@irinbree895 20 күн бұрын
Very, very impressive men .
@photoisca7386
@photoisca7386 Жыл бұрын
Churchill was obsessed with the Americans to the point he couldn't make objective observations. His "friend" FDR plotted against him because like so many Americans all he could think about was destroying the British Empire. The meeting in Tehran was a compromise location suggested by Stalin who thought he was being tested by Churchill and FDR. The original location was to be in either the Soviet Far East or the Aleutian Islands, chosen so that Churchill couldn't attend. In the event FDR stayed at the Soviet embassy, Tehran and the two were able to plot how they were going to carve up the post war world.
@kahhowong3417
@kahhowong3417 Жыл бұрын
Churchill betrayed Stalin with the promise of the Second Front at the on-start of WW2, but at the end of the war Roosevelt betrayed Churchill in subsuming the British Empire; and the Queens’ British commonwealth was too little too late for the Common class, so Churchill failed the British Ruling Aristocracy Class.
@gordonmills7798
@gordonmills7798 Жыл бұрын
It started with a forced friendship but ended in acrimony because of Roosevelt's hidden agendas that he kept secret from Churchill: Roosevelt was a fairweather friend at best and very sneaky with it:: Churchill, on the other hand, made light of his many mistakes which cost many lives: They often walked the same path moving in different directions. Roosevelt to his shame tried to trade Churchill for Stalin which was a huge mistake::
@Davidfooterman
@Davidfooterman Жыл бұрын
Wow! I’ve often wondered about the real FDR, specifically with respect to his American patrician upbringing (as distinct from the equivalent roots in Britain). Was he a fair-weather friend both politically AND personally; would you, shall we say, want to go to a family get-together for Sunday lunch with FDR and family?
@Davidfooterman
@Davidfooterman Жыл бұрын
Would you be comfortable with your kindergartners dropping food off their plates onto the table in his presence?
@gordonmills7798
@gordonmills7798 Жыл бұрын
@@Davidfooterman FDRs wife could not stand Churchill so it would be more likely she would carve up Churchill instead of the turkey if he went to dinner.
@gordonmills7798
@gordonmills7798 Жыл бұрын
@@Davidfooterman It is more likely FDR's wife would have dropped Churchill from the table such was her dislike for him:
@MrDaiseymay
@MrDaiseymay Жыл бұрын
IRONICALLY, after the war ended, India WAS freed, and thus began a series of demolition, of the British Empire. BUT--this annoyed the Americans , because many of those former colonies were turning Communist. As Churchill said , America must now, take over our Roll as Policeman of the world. Britain was Crushed by the War, and couldn't afford to play that role any more. Another Irony is, in carrying out that role, the US gradually occupied more and more places as Military bases, around the world, like it's own Colonies.
@Martin-ql2bd
@Martin-ql2bd Жыл бұрын
Even though I am an American I am ashamed at Roosevelts two faced words and actions. For Roosevelt to reneg on his promise to help England after France fell was embarrassing! Makes the USA a lier not to be trusted! Roosevelt had no real convictions. He is run by public opinion! I must sadly say that Roosevelt acts like a Coward and Opportunist by asking England for Favors when offering Aid to Same.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
Churchill gutted India in gold/silver and Rice causing famine
@jmo8525
@jmo8525 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt made clear from the beginning that he was anti-colonialism and that if the U.S. were to enter Europe's war, not our war, that we had our own interests and that dismantling colonial power structures was one of those interests. How could you say your fighting for freedom from fascism when Britain and France were oppressing foreign countries and their populations to gut their natural resources for their themselves? Why are you ashamed that we are not to do the bidding of a foreign country and their foreign opposing interests? You speak as if the U.S. exists to do the bidding of foreign countries and their foreign interests. FDR was not a coward. Asking England for favors??!! Uh, Churchill conspiring to drag our sovereign nation into a foreign war for the interests of the British Empire is hardly friendly nor is it the the duty of American citizens. If you're American, maybe start learning American history and thinking of American interests.
@Yoteyawezekana
@Yoteyawezekana Жыл бұрын
Whoa. Now that was something worth listening to. So FDR was a politician thru n thru and never a hero at all. WWll is not what school taught us.
@Dave-hc4jm
@Dave-hc4jm 3 ай бұрын
Churchill wanted the USA to save his precious Empire by coming into the war. In the end, the USA entering the war cemented the end of the British Empire. Ironic. So much for the great Churchill.
@RileyRampant
@RileyRampant Жыл бұрын
Fantastic inside history. When we consider that the pre-war US had a basic tradition of anti-colonialism (with a few exceptions), it is inevitable that US and British interests were hardly unified in every respect - the US wasn't about to expend treasure, much less blood, safeguarding British Holdings around the world.
@pauljd86
@pauljd86 Жыл бұрын
Politics aside wow history is amazing.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely *"the US wasn't about to expend treasure, much less blood, safeguarding British Holdings around the world."* That's exactly what the toffey nosed aristocrats on their estate's playing Polo wanted to do. The Commoners were fine though
@allansmith3837
@allansmith3837 Жыл бұрын
No the American plan was to replace the British Empire with their own.
@Roz-y2d
@Roz-y2d Жыл бұрын
What a stupid statement. The has nothing directly to do with empire. Roosevelt wasn’t looking at the bigger picture, and he told outright lies. His own people were against him and eventually he had a mental breakdown. Roosevelt made some dubious decisions, and after the war his mental and physical condition was finally revealed. Then, Eleanor R got the blame. Apparently, she had been running the country all along. What a s..tshow.
@mumfernandez729
@mumfernandez729 Жыл бұрын
😊
@julianmarsh8384
@julianmarsh8384 Жыл бұрын
The United States was hellbent on replacing England as a World Power. If one looks into the details, we treated the British government terribly during the war...Churchill whether he knew it or not, was merely the figurehead for this transferal of world power--someone we could claim we admired while we took over....the Soviet Union was a secondary consideration. We knew that no matter how many men in uniform they had or how much artillery or tanks, they had no reach beyond the lands immediately bordering them...
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын
The "Cambridge Five" were of the same mindset.
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's administration had up to 2,000 employees actually working as agents for the USSR. His administration protected them. The US military broke the code for the cables between the Soviet delegation in the US and Moscow, and when Roosevelt's wife Eleanore was informed of this, she notified the Soviets. She betrayed her own country for the communist regime. Roosevelt had as his most important aid a man named Harry Hopkins, who actually lived with the Roosevelts in the White House. He was named as one of the Soviet's most important agents after the fall of the USSR by a former Soviet spy chief. .... Roosevelt brought a dramatic increase in central control to the US domestically. One of the originators of fascism, Mussolini, referred to Roosevelt as a fellow fascist. Roosevelt broke the tradition of running for only 2 terms as president, and ran 4 times even though he was very ill. He threatened to pack the supreme court with his yes men in order to push through his authoritarian fascist system, which actually prolonged significantly the Great Depression according to modern academic research.....He was obviously a destructive force.
@julianmarsh8384
@julianmarsh8384 Жыл бұрын
@@johnl5316 Your take on this period of American history is the stuff of myth.
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Check works that reference the Venona files. They are the transcripts of the decrypted Soviet cables. There are also many works discussing the archives of the Soviet spy net works that were revealed after the USSR broke up @@julianmarsh8384
@CAM8689
@CAM8689 Жыл бұрын
oh well america first
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that FDR died when he did- otherwise Vietnam wouldn't have happened. He had no love of empires.
@clintgreggory2549
@clintgreggory2549 Жыл бұрын
Not a secret.
@carltornell
@carltornell Жыл бұрын
And he hardly confided anything to the Queen Elizabeth as she was largely ten years away from the throne.
@Jolluna
@Jolluna Жыл бұрын
He would have had occasions to confide in her since she stayed in London with her husband King George VI. Then-princess Elizabeth is who you're thinking of. It can be confusing.
@carltornell
@carltornell Жыл бұрын
@@JollunaYou are sure right.
@danhicks684
@danhicks684 Жыл бұрын
The most amazing thing is that Churchill dealt with the wrong Roosevelt. Theodore would have been better.
@palirvin1871
@palirvin1871 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt was a spoiled, rich, fancyboy who expected everyone to worship him. His purpose in life of his own glory.
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's administration had up to 2,000 employees actually working as agents for the USSR. His administration protected them. The US military broke the code for the cables between the Soviet delegation in the US and Moscow, and when Roosevelt's wife Eleanore was informed of this, she notified the Soviets. She betrayed her own country for the communist regime. Roosevelt had as his most important aid a man named Harry Hopkins, who actually lived with the Roosevelts in the White House. He was named as one of the Soviet's most important agents after the fall of the USSR by a former Soviet spy chief. .... Roosevelt brought a dramatic increase in central control to the US domestically. One of the originators of fascism, Mussolini, referred to Roosevelt as a fellow fascist. Roosevelt broke the tradition of running for only 2 terms as president, and ran 4 times even though he was very ill. He threatened to pack the supreme court with his yes men in order to push through his authoritarian fascist system, which actually prolonged significantly the Great Depression according to modern academic research.....He was obviously a destructive force.
@palirvin1871
@palirvin1871 Жыл бұрын
Interesting tings you shared. I historically despise the man and yet the American public worships his legacy. My country is so full of ignorant morons I could walk on their heads for a ten miles and never touch the ground if the gathered.@@johnl5316
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
@@johnl5316 sure how about some sources because we know the Soviets never tell a lie - though you are racking up an impressive resume'
@paulsontag9233
@paulsontag9233 Жыл бұрын
"Empires just don't bargain" said the beggar.
@nicholasconnolly2227
@nicholasconnolly2227 Жыл бұрын
Republics do replied the ungrateful bugger.
@timothyayers8596
@timothyayers8596 4 ай бұрын
@@nicholasconnolly2227 Consider GB was begging who the ungrateful one again ??
@bobbyb379
@bobbyb379 Ай бұрын
@@timothyayers8596 the “donations” (ie Lend Lease) made by the US during WW2 doubled the size of the US economy between ‘39 and ‘45 and took unemployment down from 14% to 1%. It was arms manufacture that built the modern US, not the New Deal. Whilst the UK might have been begging, the US wasn’t doing an act of charity by providing the arms begged for.
@timothyayers8596
@timothyayers8596 Ай бұрын
@@bobbyb379 I will agree with most of that. The US economy won that war but it wasn’t benevolence. In fact it seemed apparent the goal was to finish off the British Empire and leave the US top of the hegemonic heap.
@bobjackson4720
@bobjackson4720 Жыл бұрын
America had it's colonies e.g. the Philippines, so it wasn't against colonialism, only someone else's colonialism. As the colonial master of the Philippines at times they had shown a high level of savagery, when dealing with decent.
@saviorvx1883
@saviorvx1883 11 ай бұрын
yet despite what you call it , they still let them be self-governed without anyone forcin them to do so, just look at current news with the phillipeans , to call us despite the previous mistakes done to them. that there says a lot , to still have the heart of the ppl many years later. and im still shocked the vietnamanese ppl love the usa despite being bombed and being oranged ....theres a difference ,and your confusing circumstances of war that drove to tempoarry occupation to coloniasm. i say a good 90% is true and puerto rico/hawaii was taken to cover up that flank during the cold war. just look at china agression trying to push in those territories /to eeven go as far to build islands ...like wtf yu can do that? but it was nt greed that was the motivatior but fear it being used as a lsunchpad is the main reason why they done so.... besidees they had nukes when no one did, if they wanted to they couldve easily done some shix that every other dictator can dream of...yet they didnt .just tells you we arent about that, we just wanted to be left alone until the world problems started to have bombs comme our way. there was many good the us has done a lot of good and it balances out the wrong done by those few rats who drove us the wrong path.....but the ppl back home still havent changed i recently noticed ,the us will always be involved in every confliict because we are a mixed culture from all over the world , and our system accepts that culture to influence congress ,solong there will always be someone pushing to aid a side
@graceneilitz7661
@graceneilitz7661 10 ай бұрын
By 1935 the Philippines had an autonomous government with a promised independence date in 1946. So, if nothing else Roosevelt somewhat practiced the anti colonialism that he preached.
@besbarax5112
@besbarax5112 9 ай бұрын
Dissent
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt has a great deal to answer for! The Iron Curtain, PutiniZm, ComuniZm, etc
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt's administration had up to 2,000 employees actually working as agents for the USSR. His administration protected them. The US military broke the code for the cables between the Soviet delegation in the US and Moscow, and when Roosevelt's wife Eleanore was informed of this, she notified the Soviets. She betrayed her own country for the communist regime. Roosevelt had as his most important aid a man named Harry Hopkins, who actually lived with the Roosevelts in the White House. He was named as one of the Soviet's most important agents after the fall of the USSR by a former Soviet spy chief. .... Roosevelt brought a dramatic increase in central control to the US domestically. One of the originators of fascism, Mussolini, referred to Roosevelt as a fellow fascist. Roosevelt broke the tradition of running for only 2 terms as president, and ran 4 times even though he was very ill. He threatened to pack the supreme court with his yes men in order to push through his authoritarian fascist system, which actually prolonged significantly the Great Depression according to modern academic research.....He was obviously a destructive force.
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again John@@johnl5316
@woody844
@woody844 Жыл бұрын
I’m hoping that Churchill knew as much about Stalin.
@livethefuture2492
@livethefuture2492 Жыл бұрын
He certainly did, it was his underlying fear the entire second half of the war. He knew what would be the fate of the eastern European nations but there was little He could do about it short of going to war with the Russians.
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 6 ай бұрын
As I recall the history as it is laid out in the books on WW2 I own, the Lend Lease Act along with the food supply was vital to Britain and made the difference in 1941.
@bertk3923
@bertk3923 Жыл бұрын
0:25 notice how FDR made churchill lean into the handshake.. wonder if they did that on purpose for this doc
@johncrossphd342
@johncrossphd342 Жыл бұрын
Uh, Roosevelt was an invalid.
@papaown
@papaown Жыл бұрын
And that's exactly how people jump to conclusions without knowing back stories
@bertk3923
@bertk3923 Жыл бұрын
@@papaown lol i didnt think about the polio thing, was just an initial observation
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 Жыл бұрын
​@@johncrossphd342now they have one with Dementia who falls up Steps.
@christophercook723
@christophercook723 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt was Physically crippled unlike Biden who is mentally crippled.
@marshaprice8226
@marshaprice8226 5 ай бұрын
Roosevelt was fortunate in that he didn’t live long enough to see that Churchill was right about Stalin’s ambitions in Eastern Europe and in ultimately being in opposition to the democracies of the West.
@ronobrien7187
@ronobrien7187 Жыл бұрын
FDR had been trying to push lend lease from 1939, but US Congress didn't approve it until March 1941. The hesitancy wasn't from FDR but Congress.
@boardcertifiable
@boardcertifiable 10 ай бұрын
That's what irks me about these British based docu series. They don't get that Presidents are beholden to the American voters. And 9 times out of 10 the voters will be against war, especially of it means defending some far away country that they have nothing to do with. A good President listens to their people.
@glps6167
@glps6167 Жыл бұрын
1941, Churchill invited to visit the U.S. for a personal meeting with the president. Narrative: "Before he sailed, Churchill had confided to Queen Elizabeth ..". She became queen in 1952; the narrator meant her father George VI.
@patrickhopton4297
@patrickhopton4297 Жыл бұрын
He means King George’s wife . . . .Elizabeth.
@philpryor7524
@philpryor7524 8 ай бұрын
You simple fool. George VI had a wife, a Queen, Elizabeth.
@Graywing
@Graywing Жыл бұрын
Is this the new timeline channel?
@marisabenson1222
@marisabenson1222 5 ай бұрын
So much has changed and yet here we are again in a very similar situation and though the roles of certain players may have changed we see the same dynamics being played out.
@thelorriesweeneyable
@thelorriesweeneyable Жыл бұрын
How about between the 3. Stalin as well
@simontaylor2319
@simontaylor2319 Жыл бұрын
Roosevelt was certainly hoisted by his own petard
@LindaAndrews-ly1qf
@LindaAndrews-ly1qf Жыл бұрын
10:10 10:53 12:41 16:31 18:07 21:10
@billywylie3288
@billywylie3288 Жыл бұрын
They were all fighting for the same people all along War is a racket
@joemitchell877
@joemitchell877 Жыл бұрын
Lend Lease to USSR. Still Have Not PAID...
@allaneisner4729
@allaneisner4729 11 ай бұрын
I always considered Roosevelt one of the great Presidents of the U.S., but I must admit his failure to step up with at least arms and equipment for Britain, who was basically fighting the Germans on their own at that point, was a dent in the reputation of Roosevelt (and therefore that of the U.S.). Shame on him and America in general in such a time of upheaval!
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 11 ай бұрын
Well said Allan.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 8 ай бұрын
No Allen the Britsh brought this upon themselves along with France. Try reading up on the Crown just in WW1
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 8 ай бұрын
@@bigwoody4704 Oh do please explain you theory.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 8 ай бұрын
OK wally since history isn't important to you - as a KIWI stated on one of these boards - the Poms and Frogs pathetically unable to take care of their own business. In other words - the British and French governments were directly responsible for failing to enforce the terms of the Versailles Treaty that they insisted on and signed. And that the USA flatly rejected. Read up on it,rather have it read to you The Second World War was the continuation of the First World War which was a continuation of the constant battles between the European nations. That is the history that the British Crown absolutely had a big hand in. None of this was the concern of the American people, we owed your country nothing and certainly did not owe you alliance. You are aware the British Crown conveniently forgot to repay its loans to the US Treasury in the 1st War, yes? Then you asked for the U.S. to aid you in defeating what you created. The Crown in the 1st War had blockaded Germany's Northen ports causing 3/4 German citizens to starve to death - a clear violation of international Law.Guess it's only genocide and atrocities when the other side does eh,wally? Along with France, Belgium, Netherlands and your other satellites the British Crown signed into law the Treaty of Versailles, placing the burden of war guilt entirely on Germany - in a war they didn't start. The realization soon settled in that the Treaty of Versailles was anything but a fair settlement for the Central Powers. The treaty forced Germany to disarm, to make territorial concessions, *and to pay reparations to the Allied powers in the staggering amounts. Reparations the British Crown had never paid to ANYONE when they invaded and subjugated near/far like Ireland and India, S. Africa, USA & everyone else for 350 yrs* The lost territory in total for Germany was 25,000 square miles of its original lands. This was punishment to the German Government & the citizens themselves, given that many of them lost their homes as a result of these measures. It was that criminal act of despotism plunging their country deep into anarchy,destitution and chaos. The Germans were going to want their lands back and seething with retribution . The minute the ink dried on that sham contract the gears were set in motion to help pave the way for another massive global conflict just 20 years later.
@pedrocezar7954
@pedrocezar7954 8 ай бұрын
​@@bigwoody4704ok. Mas seria melhor a vitória do nazismo pra você?
@dr.barrycohn5461
@dr.barrycohn5461 8 ай бұрын
We sure could use a Roosevelt nowadays.
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