The Secrets Behind A Crumbling British Government - Dominic Cummings

[@ChrisWillx]

What do you think of Dominic's analysis of the current state of the UK? Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Is Multiculturalism Working? 05:01 How the Tories Broke Immigration 10:23 Dissecting the General Election 16:49 Building a Strong Opposition to Labour 23:30 Predicting the Next Few Years 26:59 How to Attract Young Talent to Politics 35:53 What Was Being in Government Like? 44:50 The Covid Inquiry Report 53:19 Why the News is Faker Than WWE 1:00:16 The Current State of America 1:09:04 What if Trump Had Been Killed? 1:23:25 5 Rules of How Government Really Workd 1:31:44 Being Portrayed as the Bad Guy 1:35:07 Benedict Cumberbatch Playing Dominic 1:39:15 Lack of Patriotism in the UK 1:51:07 What Dominic Does Now 1:55:28 How Much of a Failure Was Boris? 1:57:40 Where to Find Dominic

[@user-zm3px2qj4m]

Immigration is a huge issue today, mainly because of Brexit and collapse of EU pipelines and the economic imperative for a large pool low paid mass workforce. He's completely deluded.

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

I don't remember the exact Karl Marx quote, but he predicted capitalists, in the pursuit of profits and growth, would eventually undermine the very systems that allowed them to prosper in the first place.

[@ConorAndersen]

I've rarely heard such flagrantly shocking honesty, about the reality of the political system in the UK & how what is shown is all just theatre, the real power works behind the scenes & is in permanent power. Some of us older folks know all this & its the main reason we're so cynical about politicians.

[@barryyoung]

Loved the interview - my view of Cummings was largely formed by legacy media (I should know better). Loved his brutal honesty.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

The "Potemkin Village" is like a fake Western town for Cowboy movies, as was joked about in Blazing Saddles. Just a hollow facade for the movie makers.

[@lewishorsewell8852]

As a middle aged british man. I found this interview fascinating. The sort of conversation you would never see on the BBC. Chris well done. I can see some good research had been done. I would like to see Dominic do a deep dive on what really happened over Covid at number 10.

[@somethingintheair5373]

😂😂 He would never own up to that one since he was complicit!

[@sdrawkcabUK]

That’s easy - they panicked, chucked out years of planning to be replaced with an untested shut down approach pioneered in a dictatorship. Then, rather than admit they’d messed up, they kept the farce going for 2 years (though in their personal lives they knew it was all bs so went as about living as normal).

[@danieldurling]

Check out his substack he's written lots on this

[@sallyhemings2295]

They partied 🎉😂

[@kevinengland7444]

If you're a middle-aged you know better than to to write like an American with your 'deep dive' jargon crap.

[@jamesjarrett52]

I said it myself...the reason this country is in such a mess is because the politicians stopped caring about the country and made it all about me, myself and I.

[@wolfsamuels2357]

That's always been the case

[@mylesg7278]

They never did care. We have a system whereby the political class is it's own breed, born into privilege and to rule, they go to the same schools, have the same interests and are shielded from the realities of life for what most people have to deal. I'd call them disconnected but they were never connected in the first place. Even then someone who is right for the job would be bullied out by the corporate and banking interests so we're pretty screwed. It's just sad all the stuff I have read, call them conspiracies, are playing out in real time.

[@user-yi3ox8wy4k]

Parliament has lost power. Therefore the electorate/citizen is no longer represented - democracy is an illusion. The power lies mostly (often in secret) within quangos, the civil service, the 'special' courts/judges, media, captured institutions, intelligence, corporations - principally ”bankers/finance". It is total fascism with the red-blue pantomime puppets yapping back and forth.

[@user-yi3ox8wy4k]

He's right about the recruitment and the creation of a 'blob' of mediocre NPCs at the highest levels of responsibility.

[@clangerbasher]

At one time we were lead by those invested in the country. MP's weren't paid. The Lords representing families and their lands with centuries of deep association. Now MP's can be from abroad get paid and more interested in what the UK can do for their homeland. The Brits are just cash cows to be milked for taxes.

[@vanessanesener4028]

I care for you Brits. Much love from Germany.

[@piersclarkson9712]

We care for you too.... 😢😊

[@vanessanesener4028]

@@piersclarkson9712 ❤‍🔥

[@vanessanesener4028]

@Ian.. 🌹

[@EmmaCarrick-Smith-j6r]

Thank you ❤

[@googlesucks925]

Been to Germany a few times to see my mates there. Beautiful place and great people. Love from the uk.

[@larry6112]

He explained how the tories broke the immigration system. He didn't explain why.

[@leepark1355]

Smash the fabric of Society, community, culture and customs to make it more appealing to the dumb masses to move towards a saviour globalist government?

[@user-br6cq1nc4z]

The period in question was covered by Patel, Braverman and shapps..Only the most naive fool wouldn't know who these 3 characters really work for and don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out what's been going on and why..Divide and rule as they say..

[@Ryan-ys2bq]

Because they were never the party of brexit.... they wanted this landslide loss eventually to happen, because labour is just the same party as them and if you hand them a landslide (even if it's the worst landslide by the actual voting numbers ever) they can enact exactly what the City of London actually wants.... the downfall of the UK and Europe

[@phill6859]

Ironically it was to keep immigration in the media, because it keeps people voting conservative. Especially after the Brexit psyops turned a lot of people far right.

[@AWEdio]

See these riots? Civil unrest results in the perfect excuse for more fascist policies. It also makes a really nice smoke screen, like hiding the fact they pissed £40 billion away on a railway that never was, or another £37 billion on an app that didn't work... all that money went into the pockets of someone and it sure as hell wasnt any of the people rioting.

[@benwaddington2186]

That was superb. I met Dominic out of hours, at a dinner party, and it was a conversation much like that. It was like playing chess with a Grand Master. He had thought of every angle, of every topic we discussed, and when i was nearly right, he fine tuned, and when i was wrong, he steered me in the right direction. His grasp of history, the nuances of politics, was spellbinding. As others have suggested, the public were fed a caricature of the man, as a Rasputin type. No, far from it. He’s evangelical, and refreshing, and insightful, and educational.

[@John-c4r1o]

Like some of the best students I knew at University. Even at the best universities there's only a handful.

[@paulmcgreevy3011]

Entertaining dinner party by the sound of it?

[@gx2music]

Oh wow. That’s the kind of stuff you’ll be saying to your grandchildren …. Historic. Wow. Like him or not , Cummings is a straight up historical figure - but so self effacing he would probably hate this comment. Not often we get these kinda dudes.

[@cronocide]

Did you nosh him tho?

[@ollyperrooo]

What I would ask him, had I also had the opportunity, would be what was the Barnard Castle thing about? Because all the indications were that the government and especially Downing Street were NOT at all worried about the Covid thing or the pandemic and acted as if they knew something completely different to what the general population were told. As we move forward, gathering more information, we learn that it wasn't the Great Plague we were led to believe and the politicians with all their actions showed us just that. We know - or should by now - that the mainstream media lie to us all the time so I'm not surprised that beyond the Rasputin caricature of this man lies a real living man with a story to tell and maybe sell - unless he's already doing that!

[@tonkabeancat1117]

"40 billion down the toilet" (HS2) HOW DARE they get away with it? And they think throwing a few bricks and setting fires to cars is worse than those who can WASTE that level of taxpayer's money? With impunity!!

[@JupiterThunder]

Plus £200 billion on PPE Medpro, £400 billion on covid, £300 billion on PFI.......

[@lmg7503]

l agree

[@lifeintheolddog5768]

40 billion so far, the corpse isn’t quite dead yet (if that isn’t an oxymoron).

[@StephenBrown-vh8mz]

Politicians by and large have no trades skill or a business except the minority how are they qualified to run departments spending billions

[@cjeffrey8713]

The 'patriots' set fire to a hotel with guests and staff inside, then blocked the exits with bins.

[@cbashe]

Big up for getting Mr Cummings to speak, haven't heard him speaking this openly

[@James-iz9qb]

Fuck me this was a surprising breath of fresh air. It can get disheartening sometimes when so many almost soulless, faceless people climb up the greasy pole in government and large organisations. Its good to know some people like Dominic actually are operating behind the scenes sometimes; who have independence of mind and a genuine desire to try to be competent and get things done as a goal in itself rather than as a spectacle.

[@googlesucks925]

Yeah, he's a good man. Hence, why did they get rid of him.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

You know the really sad thing.. if the general public cared more about this type of information coming out,rather than 'This guy went to a birthday!' 'Oh yeah well this guys best friend used to be in the socialist club at school!' We'd get WAYYYYY better government.

[@Tr1111on]

Shit floats to the top

[@deniseb222]

Nothing will change. All part of the WEF plan. Same in the US now.

[@Harrysound]

@@googlesucks925I don’t know if he’s a good man , at worst he can be incredibly rude….like us all I guess, but he’s the only one that was pushing for genuine change and a more modern government at the moment change was possible and wanted by the people.problem is there’s alot of people out there who have this utterly confusing view of him due to the BBC and other media organisations. The kinda people who call a sandwich a party and just haven’t the bandwidth to look past the tabloid fog and the surface level drivel into the decades old corrupt and broken system……and so nothing ever changes.

[@lomaxdesigns1716]

This is an absolutely fantastic interview. I can't believe I've never watched a serious talk with Dominic Cummings before.

[@28pbtkh23]

Not as evil as they make out! It’s disgusting how the media carry out their character assassination.

[@lynndonharnell422]

Getting rid of WEF, DEI and ESG might be a good start to fixing things.

[@jamesglendenning5745]

The fact we don't get this kind of thing in the mainstream is the problem. Podcasts might actually save democracy

[@thefirstFlashJack]

Ohh the irony ☠️

[@sampreece]

Democracy exists only in the voting process, but thereafter becomes representative which is the antithesis of democratic.

[@Raygun9000]

At what point do we colloquially call mainstream media, legacy media? When it's watched less than a 1/3rd? We're way past that!

[@jamesglendenning5745]

@@Raygun9000 had a look the other day, in Briton 2023 70% of people got their news from TV and only 29% from Newspapers (website and app) that's down from 75% and 39% in 2022. This could be people retreating to podcast bubbles, not great, but understandable if people are looking for a long form of context avoiding framing and soundbites. I think Chris does a great job on balance.

[@trevorofarrell849]

​@@sampreece You think that GB elections are democratic.🤣 Brutish Democrazy.

[@JH-wz7sr]

Whatever you think of Cummings this is fascinating. He's clearly such a bright and pragmatic man, you wonder what he could have done if it was not for the sycophants inside no10.

[@richkellett2418]

Seemed like quite a reasonable person to me.

[@ParaquatSC]

@@richkellett2418 Everyone seems reasonable when they're acting like a reasonable person in a 1 2 1 interview.

[@torquemaddertorquemadder2080]

You are falling for his sales narrative about himself? Really???

[@janesansome8393]

​@torquemaddertorquemadder2080 you fall for the media narrative unless you know him personally do you?

[@bigbarry8343]

he is sycophantic towards himself, otherwise - sour grapes.

[@djs7734]

Great interview. If the BBC did stuff like this viewing figures wouldn't be collapsing.

[@theresamorris9004]

The sheeples have to keep watching BBC to keep rebooting the left wing narrative, it's so sad they claim to be woke yet not awake!

[@offshoretomorrow3346]

The entire national culture would be in vastly better shape if THE TORIES hadn't let it be captured and destroyed by the Far Left.

[@offshoretomorrow3346]

("it" being the BBC)

[@marktyler3381]

Enjoy their decline

[@faafo2]

I am Danish and have learned some British history from Douglas Murray's "The War on the West" and also Simon Webb "The Forgotten Slave Trade". I am absolutely in awe of what Britain achieved and how they changed the world for the better in so many ways. A shame Brits don't take (are allowed) the same pride

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

🇬🇧❤🇩🇰

[@linmal2242]

What are Britons being told, being taught? That they were the colonial 'criminals' ? Compare the disciplined and ordered British administrations to those of the Portugese or Spaniards or Dutch ; all chaotic or exploitative or corrupt !

[@Jezza-m5k]

Remember, Anglo-Saxon and Dane/Viking ancestry is a part of what made Britain great. Be proud of your Dane/Danish ancestry.

[@mikehardwicke23]

@@faafo2 it was achieved through repressive imperialisme that's why.

[@clovermark39]

I don’t think so!

[@jonathanjoseph5600]

Shame you did not ask why the establishment is so fixated on high levels of immigration. What is their motivation? GDP? Misplaced belief there are too many vacancies in the UK, even though unemployment still exists above the equilibrium? Replacement of the British? Boost birth rate? Clearly there is a reason, which is not being discussed.

[@MrScabbyhorse]

It’s very strange indeed-they didn’t just leave the door ajar; they opened the fooking floodgates, and it doesn’t seem like they want to close them. These are extremely worrying times.

[@connormullin4547]

The answer is definitely GDP, it is happening in every first world country to some extent, except in Asia but Korea and Japan are suffering in other arguably worse ways because they have no immigration at all. There's probably a sane middle ground between accepting every single person in the world, and having literally 0 immigration though. Part of the problem is trade imbalances with exporting countries like Germany and China, we need capital controls and taxes on foreign investment, to rebuild local manufacturing, and to reduce immigration to sane levels, and improve the quality of immigration. Probably should pull out of any international agreements that mandate accepting refugees as well, and refuse to enforce standards that your own country did not set themselves on the basis of rational self interest. That's true for the US/UK/Canada and many other high debt, high immigration, high trade deficit countries. What is happening now is terrible for households, it only benefits a small group of people in these countries and destabilizes everything, this is how you get violence and political extremism.

[@MrScabbyhorse]

@@connormullin4547 I agree

[@xebetax]

Have heard it elsewhere that the OBR calculations for how much the government can spend is based upon gdp assumptions which rely on migrants

[@georgesdelatour]

@@xebetax We probably assume that the people who manage to get appointed to the OBR will all be straightforward pragmatists. But what if they're all members of a cult?

[@Damo20]

One of the best interviews I’ve seen with him, great to hear him able to expand on key points without being constantly interrupted. Intelligent and thoughtful questions too, nice work Chris

[@jamesjarrett52]

The Tories must have known that they were committing electoral suicide by pressing the button on mass migration. They must have known we would suddenly realise that the volumes of immigrants was sky rocketing.

[@MAXlMUS66]

My thought exactly

[@macoooos9204]

The sad thing is I don't think they realise. Take their electoral defeat. They view it as 'we were not left wing enough' rather than returning to actual conservative policies.

[@athelstan927]

Their handled, and it is very simple! This fella underplays this! He should know this..

[@oliveirabrown2503]

Part of the plan. Divide conquer and loot in peace

[@Will46666]

They DELIBERATELY threw the election for Labour to get a massive majority so that they could do what the hell they want for four years.

[@andrewcavenagh9016]

Say what you like about him, he kept the Boris Johnson premiership functioning and in line. After he left, it completely fell apart.

[@colinstewart1432]

True. Advisors are everything in any government actual or prospective. Corbyn being outflanked by the Antisemitism trope is a good example of this.

[@BarryThomas-pw1tg]

functioning = partying.

[@phill6859]

He made it look like it was working through psyops. Leaving the EU was a mistake. It amplified the issues. There was no way that Dominic Cummings could hold it together forever. He couldn't even see properly in 2020

[@_ob200]

@@BarryThomas-pw1tgokay .. but remember beer-starmer … short memory by chance ?

[@BarryThomas-pw1tg]

@@_ob200 Which was investigate twice with no charges. and do you know who took the photos? I do. Do you?

[@MisterstereoOso]

Well I have to admit I have been duped by our MSM about Dominic Cummings & having thoroughly enjoyed this conversation I stand corrected ! He is obviously a learned & talented man.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

Yes same here, MSM were very good at duping people, but now i avoid MSM & question everything

[@tonyconnor5691]

Most ppl was however he is a historian and they are usually on the money

[@Janet-tc8vh]

Respect Sir, hearing the real voice of someone who has lived through a very silly Conservative government and has the bravery to speak the truth, very impressed. I sincerely hope we can live through these very troubled times

[@Steve-zv8le]

This has been your best show yet, it would be hilarious, if it wasn’t so frightening, how poorly the government operates.

[@calebmiles]

Was never a big fan of Dominic but this interview is fascinating and my view of him has changed. I think he is being truthful and factual about historical events. He is clearly a smart, very articulate and driven political strategist. Not sure what he is doing now for work but he needs to heading up a think tank or pressure group to get the UK political machine back on track.

[@anglosaxonbreed]

You just followed the media and the feared him and wanted him gone. Reality he a clever person and he not evil person at all.The country would be better with him inside downing street than out. Boy we need some good leadership

[@adamgordon-strong9055]

He really says it like it is! Love his candor

[@barryballsit4944]

No cheesy intro or small talk, very good, straight in to the interview, I wish more people did this style

[@guywoodford5854]

Superb discussion. A very bright and curious journalist who does his homework talking to a rare breed of highly intelligent yet practically-minded political and cultural thinker. This kind of high-quality, long-form production is what’s driving hundreds of thousands of ordinary thinking people to alternative media. You just don’t get this on legacy news and current affairs TV and radio, or in traditional newspapers.

[@jonathanbower863]

Not enough homework to ask a single challenging question

[@guywoodford5854]

@@jonathanbower863 I would argue that Chris's chatty, inquisitive approach got a hell of a lot more interesting detail and takes out of Dominic than a tedious 'Gotcha' interview ever has.

[@jonathanbower863]

@@guywoodford5854 I agree that his approach got a lot out of Dom. I'm not proposing a defensive "Gotcha" interview though - just asking Dom to respond to counter-arguments to his more wild and controversial and sweeping claims - which were many. E.g. "some say that sending the Navy to stop the boats would be both practically and politically difficult. Why not do more to collaborate with the French to get really tough on the folks making money smuggling people across?" Doing this would improve the quality of the discussion a LOT.

[@mcmackmuckm8180]

Mainstream media sure crucified Dominic's credibility. Really happy to hear that he's a genuine human being with some great observations. Honesty like his has no place in our politics at the moment. Things won't improve until we are able to speak Truth to power without being cancelled.

[@nickbarton3191]

They didn't just waste 4 years but also 100s of millions of quid on many white elephant projects.

[@briangable08]

Billions

[@StutteringJourney-ic3sp]

BILLIONS

[@stevenmoss5295]

Yes, Billions. The money that's been wasted on the illegals coming in on boat's is also going to be in the Billions due to incompetent government not getting a grip. Disgusting.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

True

[@1mimarin]

Amazing interview, superior to any that you will find on established media today. This is the sort of journalism that the public is being starved of.

[@christinewigley2206]

Being Starved of the TRUTH.

[@revamp777]

The agony of living through everything Domonic said was mentally and physically destroying for me, left hope in the dark, Thank you Dominic for your honesty and sacrifices you made for British people.

[@boatdweller310]

Honesty and sacrifices?? Pull the other one. Examples please

[@AM2K2]

lol

[@richtea615]

'The Thick of It' and 'Yes, Minister' were documentaries.

[@andygee873]

Didn’t like Dominic Cummings before watching this. How wrong I was. Really enjoyed this.

[@sarahwaters8830]

Me too, similar to you Andygee. This has been an eye opener and insightful. We need someone like DC back in power, to advise and guide. "You have to give them some credit for that; blowing themselves up" How true and DC's sense of humour.

[@andygee873]

@@sarahwaters8830 His sense of humour got me too. I’m now a fan 😁

[@margsomerville21]

Always a fan ,bad day for UK when he left Westminster

[@2010lrain]

We are patriotic as Brits. April 23rd should be celebrated. The snobbish attitude of the so called intellectuals who sneer at the display of the English flag and the Union jack or those who wish to keep Britain British are vilified or looked down upon as some illiterate working class idiots. We're seeing too late after the awful case if those poor children who died that anger is starting to spill out on the streets. And rightly so! Im not advocating violence here, I'm glad to see people finally getting angry at what's happening in our country. Government is a joke. Listening to Dominic and presuming he's telling the truth, has just verified what i and probably thousands of others have known for years. Our government is a shit show!

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

👍🇬🇧

[@djcrossie]

Ive watched 9mins and already he's said allow highly skilled migration, stop unskilled migration by telling ECHR to bugger off and deploy the Navy innthe channel and increase spending on infrastructure. Maybe Kier needs to hire Dominic into the Labour government. He's got the right ideas

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Yeah never gonna happen. Dom is a free market Libertarian. Starmer is a literal Communist Club Member.

[@cameronohare4000]

The solutions are not difficult, again it comes down to ego. People campaigning against the government as an opposition can’t then turn around and speed run what it was they were against.

[@Bumbleb43]

Kier want mass immigration to buy more votes.. Labour are not really interested in skills

[@WYDMY]

And it's the message Reform gave during the election

[@adam7802]

Don't be silly. There is only one politician that has a similar line to what Cummings said - Farrage. Kier has no plan for immigration and I doubt much interest.

[@Lossiam]

This was a great interview! Dominic Cummings comes across as a smart and decent guy. Not like the caricature that's been portrayed in the MSM.

[@johnkilvington7527]

Exactly!

[@cjeffrey8713]

Dominic Cummings has the smuggest face in the world.

[@elle30]

???😂😂😂😂😐😐😐

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

Yeah, funny that, Msm lying day & night

[@juliaw7533]

I love Dominic. He is a human and didn't deserve the shit he received. 🙏🇬🇧

[@rogerdodger1790]

Dominic is a VERY intelligent guy. He should have been listened to a LOT more.

[@RealMalta-fx4sx]

In comparison with politicians and senior civil servants, he is more intelligent than most of them. That would, usually, be a good thing. Unfortunately, he isn't as intelligent as he thinks he is and his self-awareness on this point is weak; he exhibits fake-humble behaviour. He claims to be able to put together good teams. The evidence very strongly suggests otherwise (e.g. Andrew Sabisky: a 100% Cummings recruit). Because of this, he overextends and makes serious mistakes. If I were forming a government I wouldn't want him in it. He needs INTJ types because he isn't one himself.

[@new_age123]

Dominic Cummings always keeps it real.

[@1574john]

Except when he invented the “I drove my car to test my eyes” story 😂

[@new_age123]

@@1574john Fair point haha

[@SaltAndVinegarFlavour]

Hope you're being facetious, for your own sake. 🙄

[@new_age123]

@@SaltAndVinegarFlavour did the chippy run out or something. Calm down.

[@sonny1987100]

The ONLY grown up in the room right now!

[@johnnyreggae969]

The only thing that confuses me is the 5% who think it’s working

[@martd1352]

Employed by the system mate

[@annaforrest6148]

That 5% are the government and civil service.🙄

[@vikdaddy]

Are you a white man using "reggae" in your username?

[@phill6859]

I'm confused why only 5% think it's working. It's a perception issue and while I'm sure that there are areas where there are issues, in my city there are lots of communities and no problems. It seems that there are white areas where they have no idea what it's like anywhere else and assume "it failed because the daily mail told me" Most of the immigration issues can be solved by Keir. The collapse in students is going to bankrupt universities, which might be tricky

[@turbolevo8703]

One problem we have in Britain is a high degree of political illiteracy. I’ve lost count of the number of people who expected Johnson, a lifelong Bohemian liberal, to deliver some Conservative policies, then cried foul when he didn’t. How can people be so poorly researched and ignorant?

[@georgesdelatour]

I don’t think that’s fair. People are offered a very constrained list of options to vote for at election time. In 2019 the only realistic election outcomes were 1) a Johnson majority government or 2) a Corbyn-led coalition government, including the Lib Dems and the SNP. For many voters it was a choice between a politician who’s offering 1) some of what you want, but who will probably let you down, and 2) none of what you want, and who will be at the mercy of Jo Swinson and Nicola Sturgeon.

[@AlexDeLarge77]

I agree with you completely. People still believe trade union leaders are in fact trade unionists. Or that Margaret Thatcher was actually Conservative.

[@XxxULTIMATEZxxX]

What you are saying is true, however the Boris Johnson example is not entirely fair. Johnson’s 2019 campaign manifesto contained some key pledges, such as implementing an “Australian-style points-based immigration system” which would encourage high skill migration, and discourage low skill migration, as Cummings said in the podcast. This was literally a campaign manifesto, yet Johnson completely refused to implement this policy after being elected and did the opposite. Deeper analysis of Johnson’s political history would show you that he’s not exactly a low immigration advocate, so he’s not someone to rely on when it comes to immigration policy reform. However when he makes that a campaign manifesto pledge, you have to assume in good faith as a voter that the elected government would enact the policies they campaigned on. To expect voters to deeply analyse each candidate’s political history, and therefore predict whether or not they will completely reverse their campaign manifesto once elected is not realistic. How can voters go into an election assuming everyone is probably lying about their policies? It’s not realistic. Most voters still take things at face value, and if somebody advocates a policy they like, they will vote for that. However each time a candidate is elected and they enact policies which nobody wanted, or don’t deliver, that is certainly causing many people to lose faith in election manifesto pledges, and to start looking further into the real agenda of candidates and their credibility. We have seen this recently with the huge loss of support for the Tories because many centre-right and right wing voters don’t trust them to enact actual conservative policies, particularly around immigration. We have also seen this with Labour on issues such as support for Palestine, where despite Starmer and Labour ministers saying they support a “ceasefire” or an “end to hostilities”, many pro-Palestine voters didn’t vote for Labour because they looked below the surface, and decided that actually they can’t trust Labour to enact pro-Palestine policies.

[@ChemiiOneLegacy]

We expect as British people that someone who says they are going to do something, actually does it. To actually serve the people as the elected and put their own beliefs aside - that's what democracy is meant to be - helping the common people.

[@turbolevo8703]

@@ChemiiOneLegacy Why do you expect politicians to put their own beliefs to one side? What a bizarre thing to say.

[@stix2you1]

Possibly one of the best podcasts I've listened to for a long time. Cummings comes across very well.

[@BasutuEquestrian]

He does.. bright guy.. but I think he is keeping cards close to his chest

[@edwardbenson4921]

I dont trust this snake as far as i could throw him​@@BasutuEquestrian

[@mcihs2]

He’s a politician, that’s what they do….

[@gx2music]

Absolutely storming interview. If you want to understand Britain in 2024 , this is THE one. Thank you Chris. Thank you. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@grahamclennell9205]

Imagine hearing a politician speaking in the way that Cummins does in this interview.. That would be terrific. A nice bit of swearing, and there's a whiff of authenticity in amongst the lingering resentment. Nice. I definitely believe him that it's next to impossible to actually get anything done or changed. Great interview. Thank you.

[@destro1989]

Cummings authentic? Bro literally masterminded all the lies and spin to get Boris elected. Absolute disaster.

[@Lytton333]

Swearing doesn't guarantee authenticity. Use of dockside expletives is merely an indication of the decline of public life, which is one of the ambitions of the left.. ie to degenerate standards of behaviour. This is why the left have encouraged it in their popular cultural campaigns in tv and the arts etc.. because it is a two fingered salute to the couth behaviour of traditional British society, which they view as a class-based elitism. Therefore, they encourage the new elites to be uncouth.

[@leveragebeverage2705]

Great interview Chris. It’s easy to see how his intellectual persona and straight talking would have been something for Borris and the other plastic politicians to fear. I really hope he does get back involved in helping to sort out the epic mess that British politics has become.

[@mogadon7]

REFERENDUM on - MASS IMMIGRATION !

[@mogznwaz]

The question I want to ask is why Boris and Rishi didn’t want to deal with the problem - WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO STALL? Are they being paid off by organised crime??

[@paulhawkins6415]

How dare you call the members of the WEF criminals

[@jonnyref3475]

One of the very best interviews on Modern Wisdom and sadly very much on point.

[@elliott1932]

Very sad that you would never see a conversation like this on mainstream media. The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

Yes, well put

[@grumpy9250]

I had no reason to dislike Dominic but I did, guess the media got me there. Enjoyed this interview.

[@Steamerbeen]

The MSM have got very good at it.

[@smithytri89]

Disagree a lot with him on covid response but you can't deny the guy's intellect and ability to critically analyse events. Fascinating listen.

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

Yes, particularly masks. I spent time doing as thorough a job I could reviewing literature around mask use. And the very best thing I could conclude was that they were, on balance, neither help nor hindrance. All the froth and spittle and money expended on something with no measurable effect. And on top of it all barely anyone used masks properly anyway because of very poor guidance. So even if they did something, it would all be undone by not giving people proper instruction.

[@mcihs2]

The masks were nothing to do with disease mitigation, we already knew that they don’t do anything against airborne respiratory illness, they were a control mechanism and the main way to try and persuade people we were in a pandemic. Without them, no one would have noticed anything different to any other year….funny thing is, respiratory illness still exists and kills millions every year, but the mask fascination seems to have waned….

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

Great interview. Of course, anyone who has been paying attention has long known all this, but it's good to hear Cummings lay it all out with such naked clarity. The whole country should see this, but sadly they won't.

[@V12F1Demon]

Cummings was a shrewd operator and the kind of smarts Britain needed!

[@duranleaujean-francois1088]

I’ve been in UK and London a month ago. I was surprised to notice the abandoned houses, crumbling public infrastructures, vacant commercial buildings. The streets are filthy. I didn’t feel safe on certain streets. I was aphauled by the number of veiled women. I think it’s positive that brits wake-up. It’s hope the people insist in non-violent ways.

[@storrienorrie7147]

Yes, you are right people in this country no longer have pride in what we stand for and what we all fought for in the forties. As an 87 year old daughter of a regular soI dier Icannot understand how this has happened. Proud to be British is now a disgraceful thing to say. WE have so many things to be proud of. Tolerance seems to be in short supply over most of the world but is still in evidence in this country. I am heartbroken over today's attitudes.

[@anothercynicalbrit6451]

87 years old and you still have not managed to figure it out yet. THIS IS WHAT WE FOUGHT FOR IN WORLD WAR 2. This is exactly the world we fought for. The first transgender clinic was opened in Weimer Germany. Usury was rife and the country was completely divided just like today. To bring this failed system to the West is what we fought for and the sooner you understand and accept that the sooner the world around you makes sense. Tolerance is a disgusting weakness that will be stamped out of our people completely because they will have no choice.

[@debslagel1132]

Much respect sent to you from an American. I’ll never understand why politics get so jumbled and clouded when it comes to service to the people of a great and proud country. It’s the same here in America. Be well.

[@davestevenson9080]

A certain religious group hate us, infiltrated the government and opened our borders. If you are wondering which one, it is the only one you cannot openly criticise on youtube (which they own)

[@steveplc2003]

Well said. One thing we don't celebrate is we have never been far left nor far right. Us and the U.S. are the few that can and let's hope that remains.

[@johnkilvington7527]

@storrienorrie7147 it's been happening for years, coming fom so called intellectuals, schools and !

[@miramar-103]

Cummings: Farage can't actually solve any problems ..... Q: How to solve the problem of the boats: A(Farage) Exit ECHR and deploy Navy, A(Cummings) Exit ECHR and deploy Navy ... ok what am I missing here?

[@dianedrewry32]

I thought exactly the same.

[@gilgamecha]

His point is that Farage is not in power

[@christiankreps5920]

I think it's very hard for Cummings to endorse Farage for all sorts of personal reasons going back to the Brexit referendum campaigns.

[@gilgamecha]

@@miramar-103 I read it as him saying Farage isn't in a position to do anything about it right now.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

I thought exactly that too 👍

[@Michael-4]

After many successful decades in the UK I'm leaving. What we have experienced this week will happen in every major town and city. You'll have a Trudeau style regime, controlling your freedom of movement, your cash and assets. Don't be like the Jew who said he's staying in 1930's Germany, hoping it will be OK.

[@gilgamecha]

But go where? It's the same everywhere.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

@@gilgamecha True, but there are countries where you can buy an affordable house in the peaceful countryside

[@gilgamecha]

@@AlanRoberts-xy4wu good point

[@liannebenn2097]

I am trying to understand what country would be good long term for children to have a future. The whole world feels a frightening place now

[@stevarey3519]

I knew when he left the tory party it was curtains ,i liked him because of how frank he was with his colleagues and was not afraid to tell them they were useless so he had to go.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

I think even moreso, he wasn't afraid to tell Carrie SHE was useless...

[@Daves_Cave]

Astonishing video. I was so predjudiced against this guy cos of how he was portrayed in the media over the COVID period. Yet, this this is some of the most clear-minded commentary I have heard in a long time. Mr Cummings is now one of my favourite people

[@juliancoulden1753]

This has to be the most revealing and extraordinary interview you have ever done. It makes other journalists and media seem utterly inconsequential. Can anyone imagine the bbc doing this!?

[@STEVEFINNERTY]

great interview with someone who was vilified, andused as a scapegoat when actually we should of been listening to him.

[@localbod]

Perhaps you are right and we should have listened to him then.

[@djcrossie]

Spot on about the civil service. Plenty of really capable clever people with a lot of institutional morons at the top making idiotic decisions

[@goodyeoman4534]

Where and who are these clever people?

[@mseeross]

Most covil servants ive enxountered have been weak willed conformists​@@goodyeoman4534

[@adam7802]

Reminds me of my time at a charity as well... maybe this is just always how institutions ends up.

[@goodyeoman4534]

@Gman-h7g They're too busy spewing woke ideology. Got three separate emails today from my trust director parroting off the usual verbal diarrhoea in response to the "riots".

[@thewize]

What a wonderfully frank and open and interesting conversation, without pretending to know all the answers or even all the questions

[@marcandsebe]

Starmer is definitely not something we wanted and is proving to be a disastrous PM.

[@christinepage181]

@most of the public knew that it was going to be disastrous but thanks to those that didn't bother to vote and those that don't have a brain that thinks, and voted for the dictator we now are in a straight run into a dystopian and commie world.

[@phill6859]

Keir Starmer is likely going to introduce the type of immigration that Dominic Cummings would say was better than the conservatives

[@jonathanbower863]

Evidence??

[@durrcadurk]

How? He's been in for about a month

[@kygo]

This was a great conversation, I didn't know much about Dominic apart from what the media has said, and I'm glad I watched it, he seems far more switched on and intelligent than the media made out, it's a shame we don't have more people like him with brains in the Government instead of the useless lot we are left with.

[@johnkilvington7527]

Very true!

[@sikugord03]

For the first time that I can recall grown men, not Brits were fighting and stabbing each other twice over the past month in my local town. Its abhorrent . I worry and get scared regarding my Grandchildren.

[@gordonshrubb7155]

Apply NOW! to move to USA, Canada, Australia or NZ the first one to say yes MOVÈ!

[@colinmacdonald2871]

More people need to understand this. More conversations like this Chris! Boris was not the answer, Starmer won't be either and neither will Farage. Massive structural changes are needed and people just aren't aware.

[@richardfox1325]

Farage is like boris he has the sense to employ someone like Cummings so would do well

[@davelewis7098]

Thankyou chris !! im a believer in dominic cummings words !! Im a 57 year old working class builder this rot is now stronger than any perfumed narrative !! God bless comkon folk

[@cwill2065]

The elephant in the room and unasked question is....what is the WEF's involvement with Boris, sunak and Starmer.

[@MikeNewland]

This is brilliant a must watch. He's seen it all from the inside. Well done!

[@angelicinspirations]

He's seen it all, but he's not telling it all. Far from it.

[@CpZ-Z-Z]

Really good stuff. As a yank, I do enjoy hearing outside perspectives of the US and sadly comforted knowing we are not the ONLY one with an inept government

[@PassifloraCerulea]

It's very interesting how similar their problems sound.

[@dianedrewry32]

Not inept , evil I'm afraid.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

At least you have hope with Trump-Vance 🇬🇧❤🇺🇸

[@theresabates6058]

Our Government are installed with inept people. Trump & Farage were not meant to be elected.

[@markhutton6055]

We don't have Multiculturalism, we have parallel Monoculturalism.

[@Camille_Anderson]

2 tier Keir Starlin has started his purges....

[@Camille_Anderson]

2 tier Keir Starlin has already started his purges...

[@dannywlm63]

How refreshing to hear from him and the truth of what happened to England

[@graceproby2662]

Totally agree. I never believed multiculturalism worked.

[@weirdschool]

Enoch Powell tried to warn us.

[@louisetaylor2131]

Rivers of blood’ 1970s speech …….. and we laughed at him ….

[@wendyrowland7787]

@@louisetaylor2131some of us knew he was right from the outset. Our streets have become bloodbaths sadly with one ethnic community in particular.

[@greggrimer354]

He did warn us. We did not listen.

[@stevenmoss5295]

Government did not listen. I've listened to some of his speeches in Parliament regarding Immigration and the amount of interruptions from so called MP's was disgusting.

[@ExploringHabit]

Cummings should join Reform

[@cameronohare4000]

From what he says, reform has reached their peak. There’s potential to grow if they peel voters away from the conservatives.

[@bieituns]

Him and farage hate eachother

[@baggysmart7613]

Did you listen to him or no?😂

[@jonathanbower863]

Thankfully he is just smart enough not to

[@lnAmberClad]

As an American this was incredibly interesting. I like hearing about whats going on over there, the news tends to skew towards The States a lot and make everything about us. I miss the old NPR when they used to have world news (90s & early 2000s)

[@pgtips9511]

Fascinating interview. I’ve always held Dominic Cummings in high regard since first ‘discovering’ his blog around the time of Brexit. I found it to be fascinating albeit pretty dense and complicated at times. Consequently I never went along with the demonisation of him., believing instead that is was all spiteful spin. He’s never held government officials in high regard but I was very surprised to hear him describe most of government as useless and shambolic…my belief is it is much worse than incompetent..it is, in fact, a malignant operation riddled with extreme snobbery, disdain, arrogance and pure evil. The entire edifice needs to be cut out and radiated like the cancerous growth that it is so that something new and healthy can grow in its place.

[@hmmmmmmmmmmmm938]

As much as Cummings can try to reframe himself as being a man of the people, his biggest success and the thing he fought the hardest for was Brexit. He could have focused on other things for which he claimed as ambitious projects such as school funding and infrastructure as a way to gain votes but he forewent those projects to focus singularly on Leave and then criticized Johnson after Cummings lost favor. It's clear that Cummings chose this interview because he need not be afraid of any hard questions.

[@K9Weddings]

I'm a big fan of Cummings. I'm also a big fan of Farage. Farage openly admits that he'd rather be down the pub than be in politics but he's been forced to enter the scene due to the Tory party trying to thwart democracy and leaving the EU. Farage realises this and is going to spend the next 5 years building the infrastructure of Reform and eventually hand it over to someone. I want Cummings to get involved as he's a great strategist. He's not media friendly enough to lead a party but it's about knowing your strengths. I believe Cummings has more in common with the Reform agenda than he does with the true Tory agenda

[@jeffrywhite6008]

Isnt the whole concept of government to serve its people not immagrants of other counrrys?

[@marumaru6084]

Only if they care about the people!

[@jackiekjono]

I think that these days a lot of the sort of people who go into government have loyalties beyond their own national borders.

[@AM2K2]

English: quite good

[@crowbar9566]

that’s waycist

[@SHB77784]

@@crowbar9566how?

[@kelly4187]

No Dominic… the fact that immigration didn’t change after leaving the EU means it was never the EU. We had options for our own border control in the EU that we simply never used that would have cut immigration by 10x. Instead we stick to what the Tories had done since 2010… throw open the doors so their donors could have cheap Labour.

[@user-yh7rl1mf4t]

Oh yes we dowr are not allowed to celebrate St Georges day we are being ghosted as a nation by our own gov

[@kimwhitbread2799]

But the government could blame the EU....

[@semajsenoj5548]

Mr Dominic , we are ready to support your party, you are on the right track. Birmingham with your.

[@michaelrandall2070]

UK IS ALREADY AT STRESS POINT OWING TO LACK OF HOUSES, FLATS, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, CARE FACILITIES, ROADS, RESERVOIRS, WATERWORKS, SEWAGE, ETC - AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE MEN NOR MONEY TO COMPLETE THE PROGRAMME NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW IMMIGRANTS. THIS NEEDS CAREFUL PLANNING AND COSTING !😂

[@quackhouseproductions5572]

Would have liked to hear what he thought of Blair and his NGO.

[@macoooos9204]

Watch Academic Agents, his "Blair's triple shakedown".

[@quackhouseproductions5572]

@@macoooos9204 waaaaay ahead of ya.

[@ExploringHabit]

What Starmer said about the concerned public protesting about our kids safety. Just added fuel to the fire , the idiot is out of his depth.

[@nikolayivanov6373]

You must have misunderstood. He was referring to the riots and the people burning police cars and shops. Those people are now "concerned public" they are lunatics that need to be in jail.

[@SeasideBandit]

Absolutely.

[@davestevenson9080]

@@nikolayivanov6373 the people bringing million of foreigners here against our will are the ones that need to be in jail

[@jimboakimbo54]

Destroying your community and physically attacking people for the colour of their skin is not concern for your children.

[@dragonfly6908]

Starmer has poor communication skills, he is clueless when addressing the public.

[@samuelmirando7050]

Nice to hear Chris talking about the UK again 😊

[@StephenBrown-vh8mz]

Never forget where you come from

[@cynicaldodgyknees6248]

Interesting interview but contradicts himself saying “…masks don’t work and all that crazy shit.” Really? He obviously knows more than leading international virologists who repeated claimed they were useless, until they were globally gagged.

[@clivebroadhead4381]

The insights are a load of balloons. All he says is that Johnson messed up because he was told by his girlfriend to ignore the advice of Cummings. How is that a statement of Johnsons failure to build an affluent and stable society for everyone?

[@TiGGowich]

Why I hate politicians is because whenever they talk it's all about seats, votes, how to "look good" and all that nonsense. I never hear politicians talk about simply doing their job, taking action, changing laws and fulfilling what the people have voted for. Just do what the people want and you succeed... why do they all blabber on about all this nonsense instead of just getting on with it!!!!

[@mattylamb9194]

And this man goes on it about looking good more than most politicians even, whilst at the same time saying he is the one thinking about the policies

[@GeorgiaMartin-ll9qg]

Incredible how even these two found it impossible to discuss the rise of Islam in Britain!

[@FiveLiver]

Yes elephant in the room stuff. He's still banging on about "they literally elected Nazis", like he hasn't a clue.

[@G0ldfingers]

DEI is responsible for HR seniors to be where they are, we need to rid ourselves of DEI and return to the best people for the role employment.

[@fhenderson8925]

Didn't .Earn. It.

[@lat1419]

DEI from the globalists and founder of BlackRock. The takeover by the managerialists, given a playbook with lots of rules and by wielding those came extraordinary power. In the hands of very mediocre managers.

[@mattsmint]

We could do with another 2 hours of this, in all honesty. It would be great diving deeper into all corners of the rot to get some light shined on them to let people know what we're up against. I feel like we all know what is going on, but it's great to hear it from the perspective of someone that has actually been there.

[@kim-hf9wr]

I work in local government and I agree with everything he says about technology. Been saying for years they need to invest in decent technology for jobs to be done effectively and efficiently. But they don't want to spend money to make money. 😒

[@Jin-Ro]

Well done Chris, absolute diamond interview. You'd never see this in the mainstream. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@johnkilvington7527]

Well said!

[@jorose7293]

Listen to David Starkey. He has given a sobering interview about this new government.

[@Steamerbeen]

Can you send the link?

[@Camille_Anderson]

​@@Steamerbeenhe has a channel, Dr David Starkey talks, if you don't know already. He has some wonderful & searingly accurate words on the past few insane weeks.

[@ollyjohnson2590]

This interview has changed my mind on Mr Comings for the better Blessings to all

[@parker3979]

the comings and goings of Cummings

[@EastoftheDanube]

This is a very intriguing conversation, thank you. I would like to add my bit as someone who is working for a local council, a government employee. It’s a hideous dystopian workplace. They operate a hi-tec hybrid hot-desking model and I feel like a character in Yevgeny Zamiatyn’s novel, “We”. I’ve only been there 3 months and I’m leaving asap. I’d rather die than work in such a dystopian environment. Work used to have a social element, now no one talks - and I have to bring my own milk and teabags as well as lug a laptop to the office. I may be misjudging Cummings but it’s his ilk that have ushered in this brave new world. Off-grid life is looking very appealing.

[@nerdimmunity7672]

He was in charge of the best thing to happen in British politics in my life time.

[@raystephens1142]

Why not invest in the Brit kids to make them your high-skilled workers? Do you not have faith in them if given the tools?

[@joanneburslem4330]

Apprenticeships are a joke Teachers are failed tradesmen. Seen it Could only teach one carpentry joint and have to do diversity lessons online all the time.

[@Mediaisdead7]

You obviously do not work in the education system. 95% student only care about getting money to attend College. Free Wi-Fi, and meeting there friends. Most of them want to be KZbin influences or playing games all day while the teachers give them government indoctrination. Also, you say give them the tools, well the amount of money spent on new technology is ridiculous and most students don’t even know how to save a document.

[@Camille_Anderson]

💯🎯👏👏👏 We have been sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism. Train & pay Brits to do these high skilled jobs. Too many im mig r ants are not highly skilled and it's insulting to British people to insist they don't want jobs. I see every day people desperate for work & eventually take crap low skilled temporary work just to survive. They need to invest in British people and improve our social, fiscal & cultural status, not the protected demographic who are so entitled.

[@Camille_Anderson]

💯🎯👏👏 We have been sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism. Train & pay Brits to do these high skilled jobs. Too many im mig r ants are not highly skilled and it's insulting to British people to insist they don't want jobs. I see every day people desperate for work & eventually take crap low skilled temporary work just to survive. They need to invest in British people and improve our social, fiscal & cultural status, not the protected demographic who are so entitled.

[@Camille_Anderson]

. We have been sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism. Train & pay Brits to do these high skilled jobs. Too many im mig r ants are not highly skilled and it's insulting to British people to insist they don't want jobs. I see every day people desperate for work & eventually take crap low skilled temporary work just to survive. They need to invest in British people and improve our social, fiscal & cultural status, not the protected demographic who are so entitled.

[@susanwilcox3403]

Exactly London has forgot about the rest of the country

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

Exactly why Scottish devolution has worked for Scotland and no Scot wants a return to direct rule

[@royevetts4900]

Dominic is correct...we all know the whole place is a shit show. Time to clean it up.

[@janetstead7032]

The lovely human face of Dominic Cummings. Well worth watching. Thanks 🙏🏻