The Shady Side Of JKFilms: Tiffany's Exit

[@stinkyomelette]

a lot of these comments are pissed af that you’re “bringing up all this dirt” and hurting creators like Tiff by stirring up the pot 💀 but as someone who was invested into JK for a huuuuge chunk of my early and late teens, this series is like watching a documentary on the real reasons my parents got divorced - not invested in the slightest, but curious and interested lol. you to know that you are actively doing a service for us! thank you for feeding my curiosity queen 💖👑

[@user-pl8xc4fv8q]

I agree! I've stopped watching JK for years now, but I've always wondered what actually happened. These videos definitely help!

[@angel1202003]

that was such a dumb reason to support content like this. they are strangers, you have no right to their privacy you weirdo

[@queentoe8002]

@@angel1202003 how is it their privacy if it’s all on the internet? 😀

[@iamcristiannn]

Deadass I would watch them constantly. I remember Julia, Brandon, Josh being on then I stopped watching. I come back to see like drama here and there and seeing that everyone is like stirring the pot and I’m trying to figure out what’s going on

[@justvibing2497]

Sameee

[@saranguyen2788]

I'm convinced every time she says "that owner" or "one of the owners" in regards to having an ugly/heated conversation she was talking about Bart. She mentioned Joes name several times so she would've just said Joe if it was him. Joe was also probably the one that offered her money to help her if she needed it. Someone also said Tiff and Geo fell out before this all happened so that probably influenced the emotions Bart was having against Tiff. Several people on JK said Bart does have an intense personality

[@PDLS90]

I think we all know she's referring to Bart especially because he's always inappropriate and doesn't think before anything comes out of his mouth. I stopped watching because of Bart's pedo comments.

[@Abc-yv2ue]

@@PDLS90 yeh me to and geo don't say anything once he said when he has a daughter he'll change her and keep looking at her privets I felt sick everyone told him dude wtf geo just laughed

[@PDLS90]

@@Abc-yv2ue yes! that is so disturbing he said that ugh makes me sick to my stomach and the fact that Geo never said nothing or just laughed it off disgusting 😐

[@i.still.function3463]

@@PDLS90 What was Bart's pedo comment if you don't mind me asking? It's so crazy to me I decided to look up JK the other day just to see what's up and holy shit all this Hs drama B's lol.

[@jamessteadman1064]

She's only taking about joe not really bart because joe has a sour mouth that's the reason why Jess dumped him.

[@YoutubeUser1091]

"we're not a company, we're a family." Run when you hear that.

[@Naalders]

Yes! A company that says that are gaslighting you into being loyal to the company eventhough that company will drop you without a second thought.

[@catfromcomiccon]

Fully agree. Please young people, LISTEN and RUN!

[@LOPHOAFRO]

THIS IS WHAT AMAZON TELLS ME THE MOTTO IS FAMILY LIKE FNF

[@nightowl7261]

Das riite

[@Kamui916]

Yea pretty funny how you say that but JK is 100% way better now than it's ever been 😂. That motto still applies to the current cast but now they actually chose people who won't throw them under the bus and criticize them.

[@chrisberg7862]

Tiffany arc during here time at JK was almost out of a movie and a true privilege to watch. She’s the only member who ever actually grew as a person. She went from a little shy and occasionally awkward person to this super strong independent, confident , well spoken journalist who apologized for none of it.

[@Morcheeseplz1]

I used to watch them religiously in middle school lmao but somehow I’m not surprised by all the drama and how the main cast treats everyone

[@ITZKNIVEZZ]

i used too aswell whats ur insta i bet we would be such good friends lol

[@Sisima13]

I don’t like the fact that they fired her while she was going through a lot in her life. She lost her grandma…she lost a baby. I know employers don’t have to care about their employee’s personal life but they were more than just employees! They were supposed to be her friend 😭 She was always there for them even when Geo got her surgery and gave birth to Taika….I guess friendship doesn’t mean anything to some people

[@rycrgarcia]

Wait what? Did she have a miscarriage?

[@Sisima13]

@@rycrgarcia yeah she had a miscarriage back then

[@deroxanlit4181]

Everything you saying has nothing to do with Jknew employer. Nobody wanted her to have a miscarriage! People will always feeling some type of way when being let go! Jknews hasn’t been doing good. also I don’t think Tiffany was contributing enough and offer creativity for jknews. Yes it is suck friendship end!

[@layZgy]

@@deroxanlit4181 retype it in your native language so I can press translate instead

[@4oho361]

@@deroxanlit4181 i didn't understand anything you said

[@nowey2251]

David seems awful. He comes off as entitled and mr know it all

[@Amakiseul]

I remember he once bragged about being so mad at his wife that he squeezed and crushed an iPhone in his hand..

[@Sermalla]

Yes, have you seen this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kImrZ2tvq9Oma68 David loves stirring the pot and his ego becomes bigger and bigger because of it. I am surprised he didn't take this video down. He is posting a dispute over a private matter, so his fans can rally to his side. This is very thing he criticized others about. He is no longer friends with Justin Chon, and Chon does real work in Hollywood, unlike David.

[@iceis4209]

@@Amakiseul that’s his anger issues and real situations that happen at least he tries to better himself.

[@anaisgonzalez4266]

Ilr and it sucks that he didnt come out and apologize to tiff when she basically had tell everyone why she needed the medical emergency

[@mikuforlife1929]

@TheLegendkiller Rlly I thought they would’ve been married by now

[@peacelife]

Yes, it is sad. I always thought her and Geo gonna have kids playing with each other. Tiff have been their for Geo through her wedding, child birth and more. It is kind of scary how they treated one supposed to be bestie to Geo and long time employees like that. Im not even her and it feels hurt that they didn't care even wishes her well with pregnancy after all they have been through.

[@sheislove0179]

You are so right. They were best friends. Geo and Bart think they're better than everyone else. To bad they are both a joke

[@starchannel123]

@@sheislove0179 that’s why they get along so well with narcissistic David

[@Abc-yv2ue]

@@sheislove0179💯

[@rainstorm571]

I mean it was obvious even when they were friends that it was one sided

[@Sajangrg69]

David is the ultimate villain. When JK met David and kept inviting him to JKnews that was the beginning of an end for JKnews and the 'family-like' bond that they apparently had with each other.

[@liyah3057]

The way that jk news has been at 1.8 million for like 3-4 years says a lot about how horrible the channel has become

[@liyah3057]

The whole company deserves to fall apart

[@1Subbe]

Yep. Having the same viewer count for years just means those numbers are mostly legacy subscribers and likely inactive accounts. They only pull 30k per video these days, that's less than 2% of their sub count.

[@rainstorm571]

More like the past 7 years

[@biomutant1468]

@@1Subbe they’ve been on the decline for a while, i remember when they used to get millions per video.

[@monicac6157]

Right 💀💀 they were never able to get 2 million in all the years I watched them, esp when they were getting lots of views on each vid

[@lupeflores8653]

I feel so sorry for tiff. It was clear through the years that she always wanted to speak up about jks insensitivity and immoral views. Hence why she got the nickname "triggered tiffany". She has gone through so much in her life, from being SAd her whole life into adulthood, her father going missing, being a teen mom etc. She did not deserve at all what jk did to her. They just didnt like that she was finally standing up for herself in the company

[@kevins3080]

Didn’t you watch the David so podcasts on this topic? Jk gave her amazing opportunities and really good pay, lots of free time and all paid travelling, etc. I guess the fame just got into her head

[@nagem115]

@@kevins3080 did you hear Tiffany’s side? She said that she wasn’t paid all that much. She said David got some stuff right but not all.

[@jamessteadman1064]

I don't feel sorry for Tiffany Jk did soo much for her own growth, the reality of their friendship was the best thing for her it will make her a real friend to others.

[@Imposterchu]

They are all still friend they legit still hang out, All the time. They still are cool despite the fall out she was just not happy working there because she didn't like the comedy and how they always went off the rails and how they managed things. She been saying that and you could see it in her face. But you know that JK is in the dumps during this they were not in the same position to help her the same way they did in the past. I feel like people take this out of context and make their own nartive. I feel like people should watch both sides. I agree with a lot of this video but it is good to hear both stories. But all in all my view is tiff is better for JK in the long run she would not have had any of the opportunities she had before JK. She has said how grateful she is to have been part of JK despite this fall out.

[@doc-vg9lq]

@@Imposterchu you don’t know anything

[@sanochii]

It’s sad really, after the ordeal with Tiff leaving JK. The connection was just cut off. In Tiff &Case’s baby announcement video with friends and family, not seeing Geo or a message from her of congratulations was really sad. The saddest part for me is that there probably won’t be any more Taika, Isaac & baby Chan interactions in the future.

[@AA-bx5zx]

and arrogantly self grandiose as well!

[@Sermalla]

I really can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Julia’s situation. I noticed you said she was your favorite, and she was mine. Once she left, I stop paying attention to JK until I found your series. Julia admitted how JKNews was so stressful, which is why she requested a position behind the scenes. She also admitted how she missed hanging out with her normal friends outside of JK. Julia escaped on good terms because she still speaks with the group, didn’t get into the drama, was respectful to everyone, and lives a normal lifestyle outside of social media. As for Tiffany, I always felt she was a punching bag like Josh. I only liked her relationship with Geo, so I was shocked it went south. I wouldn't be surprised if Bart had a hand in that decision. I noticed Geo turns a blind eye to some of Bart’s unforgivable behavior. The two of them really are a pair.

[@olivedabove]

Where did Julia say this?

[@Sermalla]

@@olivedabove It's been almost 2 years since I've seen JK videos, but here are a few citations. 1st video - Julia's struggle with JKNews and hate comments - starts at 1:35: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZLPe4qsmJKBnrs 2nd video - Julia relaxs with normal friends - starts at 17:15: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZLPe4qsmJKBnrs 3rd video - Julia wanted to leave JK after 6 years of service - starts at 13:30: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZLPe4qsmJKBnrs (From here, she also says she didn't feel needed anymore but Bart/Joe were willing to find a position for her.) 4th video - How Julia joined JK - starts at 6:40: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZLPe4qsmJKBnrs (It's funny how the female interns always date members in the company. You're right, this new social media companies like JK gets away with more than a traditional company with an HR department). Sadly Joe got rid of a lot of his old vlogs because he would randomly speak with members behind the scenes.

[@ManguKing]

@@Sermalla loved your research =)

[@Sermalla]

@Dan So true, but Julia just came back as a guest. She no longer works for the JK company. She is on good terms with everyone and never had drama, but she was stressed and didn't want to continue after JKParty ended in 2019.

[@Sermalla]

@TheLegendkiller Right! she only stayed longer because Joe/Bart found a position for her under JKParty. I'm glad she got out eventually to pursue better opportunities and now she can return on her own terms.

[@ben10234]

David is type of person who never admits fault or say sorry to anyone try to act tough and everything is w/e no big deals around him. I know a lot of ppl exactly like that raised in Korean family

[@ben10234]

Oh and they have excuse for everything

[@35Ryma]

Haha, Koreans. Right. I have plenty of k friends that way.

[@kusaiashionamete220]

Why does anybody think hes funny? All his stories are lies. Nobody that flabby could ever win a fight. Hes like 30% body fat constantly rebounding from his diets. And obnoxious to top it off

[@doublebubblebarb7606]

@@kusaiashionamete220Ghhehehehe not the body fat insult 😭😭😭😭😹ur funny asf

[@ksis86]

My job literally threw me a baby shower when I only worked there for 3 months…something tells me JK didnt even have the decency to give Tiff a congratulatory phone call when they found out she was pregnant lol. A shame

[@shebairam9876]

THIS! OMG I felt like crying when i realized she did so much for geo, through geo’s wedding, pregnancy, taika as a baby, everything only for them to do shit for her during her most special time.

[@GojosBackHand]

Dude she had benefit that no company will give her. Also David So call her out on her bullshit too.

[@angelaferrer74]

Someone please add more info if I miss any or correct me if I’m wrong. I recall a Big Mood episode, where Tiff mentions a “friend” who told her she can’t be around her anymore because she brought nothing but negativity (This was during the time she was going through stuff w her father, grandmother, miscarriage) and the girls’ reaction made me think she’s talking about Geo. Anyone else?

[@abbythyst]

damn really?? :o do you happen to know roughly what episode/time the video came out? that's so sad because you can tell how much Tiff really loved and cared for Geo :(( so sad they treated her like they did especially with everything that was going on in Tiff's personal life, she probably really needed a friend like she thought she had in Geo

[@dangda-ww7de]

You dont know that, stop with the rumor, until you know for sure you shouldnt put up fake news. Just saying.

[@ChipWhitingtonIII]

Yes, it was Geo.

[@lupeflores8653]

@@ChipWhitingtonIII do you know what episode??

[@VNXSXM]

@@dangda-ww7de it’s obvious that it was her?Because tiff still gets along with everybody else.

[@DarkSaiya-jinXCV]

never be buddy buddy with a company that calls you "family". Even if there your friends.

[@Mary-sh2bp]

Man, can’t stand JK channels. They reminded me of HS bullies who used to bully anyone that weren’t in their clique. The only reason I stuck around is because of the kids! They were so precious and I hope they grow up to be good people.

[@lennyappleton2840]

If you go to any school with a substantial Asian population, you’ll realize this is typically how they act. Asian people are quick to depredate close relationships, especially if you are not their kind.

[@Mary-sh2bp]

@@lennyappleton2840 I’m Asian. Not all Asians are like that. Besides, anyone can be like that, regardless of their ethnicity.

[@ftwnyung2998]

as someone who had that type of friend group i can absolutely admit this is what jk prods feel like my group has grown from that but it feels like jk just doesn’t wanna take any criticism and blames others besides themselves

[@KM-qu3rd]

You're Asian???? I bet you wish you were. 😂😂😂 Why are you ashamed to admit you're Mexican? Watching Geo & Tiff's kids w/the Asian dudes, makes me want to think you like them Asian boys too. Lolz

[@saranguyen2788]

There's an episode of her podcast Big Mood where Tiff explains she used to be a doormat for people to walk over her & how she had to come to terms with certain people bringing negative energy. It was kinda implied she was talking about JK

[@kevinrahman1990]

I actually had the pleasure of working with a company where "if you work here, you're family". It was modells. The company is gone now but the supervisor, staff along with upper management were beyond amazing. The management would even drive us home when it rained or snowed. I know what I saw in jk was just a facade but I always hoped it was real. Ya just can't find real workplaces like that anymore.

[@MyDestinyDear]

I had the pleasure of working somewhere like that once. I babysat for my bosses kid for extra cash when I wasn’t on the schedule as much. We’d walk home together because some of us lived real close. When I moved away they threw me a going away party after hours and everyone came to say goodbye. I think about then often. It was my first job and I got really lucky

[@anjali8803]

Damn! seriously! It's so accurate.... Specifically the Geo part, I totally didn't expected that from her, All the vlogs are clear evidence about HOW GENUINELY TIFF CARED AND LOVED GEO like a legit real sister, and Geo OMG she appeard so mean, as if she was distancing herself from this topic like she don't give a fuck. That's why I have TRUST ISSUES BRO

[@MsEmpress4life]

David always says how he doesn’t care about any one’s opinion. He just needs a case of STFU and a side of MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. No wonder he can’t get any sponsors. He is a MITCH

[@ManguKing]

I wonder what tiff would say about the Josh and Olivia situation now? It is also funny how tiffs youtube channel is doing better than jknews. I've been watching the channel since I can remember. Jesus at least 6 years? Maybe more? And I admit that I took their side on the Olivia scandal because I myself am a victim of having ex hating on me for breaking up with them, and I always saw joe as to much of a laid back kinda guy to be stealing from people. He may argue and insult you on a bad day, but I doubt hell ever trick you to take advantage. But things continue to pile up, year after year, and drama after drama. The truth has never really been black or white, but the greys are far 2 think to continue being blindly loyal. You've done great research, and your opinion is very logical

[@camlee2341]

josh was a bad at his job..the dude was half asleep it was charity he last that long

[@Jennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

@@camlee2341 did you work with them? Like in every comment section you got some kind of beef with Josh. Cos I’m confuse, what’s your issue. Obviously there’s some wrong with the damn company if multiple people are getting fired and quitting.

[@camlee2341]

@@Jennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn you don't need a degree to see josh was just bad...people move on to be honest some stay longer than others

[@militeghebre5386]

@@camlee2341 you're delusional

[@camlee2341]

@@militeghebre5386 and u are just a hater...josh is even bad at twitch..the guy isn't cut out for social media

[@jasminealanis2383]

I was hoping you would mention Casey leaving. If you know more details to that, could you please make a video on it? I stopped watching JKNews when it started going downhill, and I haven't watched the "All Boys Cast" ones. I love this series, and I think you do a great job! ❤️

[@olivedabove]

Casey left when tiff left. He unfollowed them & that was that.

[@Unveranosinmi]

@@olivedabove he was not gonna take the disrespect to his wife. Good dude

[@jamessteadman1064]

The sad thing is that Casey could have had a incredible job has a director if he never hooked up with Jk.

[@ssj-rose4572]

@@jamessteadman1064 no he wouldn’t Bart and joe supported tiff Casey and her son for years

[@KM-qu3rd]

2 minutes ago Tiff & Casey weren't contributing that much to JKNews. They were irrelevant to be honest. They were just hired for the very obvious common denominator that both girls married Asian men.

[@cafezo87934]

now I know why jk which has been around since the beginning could never reach 2million subs.

[@lizzieyvette]

Honestly it seems like they exploit the women more and they exploit their weaknesses in the sense of they find out like OK she came from a broken home or you know she's had bad relationships so then they feed on that like the protecting kind or overgiving you family love and your family love and then your loyal you're right a different you know and then it's like goodbye we don't need you

[@camlee2341]

total rubbish

[@poisonkiss201]

Haven't watched since and I've heard it's a frat club now. And David is such a drama queen, sticking his nose and trying to report on other peoples business. Bart,Geo and Joe are users and it goes to show how money changed them, they'll get their karma.

[@Jon60531]

Joe is broke

[@choncha23]

Users of what?

[@wamengmoua6771]

Karma will get tiff lol 😆

[@rt7776]

It's a sausage fest.

[@user-eu1rh2nm8j]

💯 right, Totally overrated. They make sure to surround themselves with likeminded ego's. Bunch of middleaged people that still think they are 16 and want to be the cool club...Flexing like 16 year olds as well 😂😂😂 The only youtubers who did not manage to grow on youtube....

[@navct4061]

Thank you for posting this. I watched them mostly in my teens and had no idea this was going on. Now that I'm older, I don't feel anyway about not watching them any more. The language they use to bully those who spoke out is...distasteful. I don't think or feel bad for Tiff either. Actions speak louder than words and I don't think she ever apologised to those she wronged. Take away all the drama and look at her actions for what they are. She had the freedom and ability to choose how she treated people like Josh and Olivia Thai and she still decided to act the way she did. That is all.

[@sleepy5017]

My ex boyfriend introduced me to the jk KZbin channel. Feels super nostalgic for me and also makes me miss the times he and I would watch the shows together. Anyway, I tried to watch jknews recently and I just couldn't. It's really bad now. Just feels like people trying way too hard. They didn't grow with the times and that's very unfortunate.

[@itsrupaulsgaysia7671]

Just saw the Olivia stuff, honestly this is such karma. 😂 Tiff really went after Olivia only to get fired later omfg. "Family" she thought.

[@camlee2341]

difference...tiff still friends with most of jk crew

[@oni1261]

@@camlee2341 why would you want to be friends with ANY of those a$$holes? I jsed to watch them back in the day and there was always something that put me off about them even though I would laugh with their videos, and now I found these videos that are letting me know that my gut feeling didn't fail me.

[@camlee2341]

@@oni1261 so nikki limo...gina darling..ant ma...jessica..can nguyen..julia..ant lee..tommy..brandon are all assholes??..lol..newsflash JK isn't just bart and joe..these people also made jk

[@AbsoluteDan]

Most of them she is friends with except for Joe, Geo, Bart, Josh and David. Most of the others including Julia were in her pregnancy announcement video. I agree though but why would you be friends with people like Bart, Joe and Geo after everything they did for her then they just fire her and cut all ties.

[@user-kj6wy1cn7w]

I used to love JK but stopped watching the day most of them admitted to voting for Trump, was very telling of their true characters and I just didn't think I could continuing supporting them when our morals clearly didn't align

[@I_Smell_Like_Beef]

Whaaaaat I didn’t know that! Yikes.

[@wowzies6247]

ME TOO!!!! bart and joe started bringing up discussion points that made me uncomfortable and i could tell all of them were starting to be more obvious about their political opinions

[@dowhatiwantc7637]

Let’s go Brandon

[@camlee2341]

bs..maybe bart and joe but no way geo..nikki or tiff..no shot they hate trump

[@whenyouve5765]

Over political views? Political views determine your true character? Pretty ridiculous. I'm not big on Trump, but if I made the choice to vote in 2020, I would've went with Trump, seeing the shithole we're in now. Lot of stuff he says gets taken out of context by MSM and warped into something inhuman. I could care less where your political morals align, if you're a naturally good person, I'll have respect for you.

[@dou]

From my experience, separating private and public/work life has been beneficial. When the two mix, its not impossible yet extremely difficult for all parties to be on the same page. Thus, when things go south, it goes very very south. On the flip side, when its good, its really good.

[@M2161]

Bart and Geo let the money and “fame” go to their heads. you see it in their blogs now, buying new homes renovating their “dream home” and moving each time a few years later. They are clearly chasing something really isn’t there. Backstabbed to get ahead

[@luzylui]

As someone who looked forward to watching JK production in middle school, it sad to see everyone fall apart. I loved them so much and seeing this just sucks, it almost feels as someone i loved just pass. I just recently decided to see what they've been up too, now as a graduate student, I appreciate you for making this video explaining the situation! I really do hope they take time to reflect from the experince and to better themselves. Julia was one of my most favorite of the production 😭

[@cateIeya]

Care to add that I, as well, grew up watching them. And Julia was my most favorite, even going as to stand up for her in old videos where she gets called for being "boring and dry" and how she contributes to no joke whatsoever. The amount of backlash she would get before, I can never forget.

[@jameearnold]

I started watching jk news about 4 years ago and I loved it. It was my favorite channel but I don’t watch them at all now. I miss how it use to be and I loved jkparty as well

[@hayleighsoldridge2198]

same it’s so sad honestly

[@caponyx]

its funny how Ma fam still hangs with tiff/casey and bart/geo/joe like theyre the glue. Even funnier they still use tiff and nikki on their "thank you" vid for subscribing to JK's patreon

[@camlee2341]

they still firends...i think tiff only have a problem with bart

[@eyeyamjstn628]

Tiff is my favorite out of jk, it’s such a shame. Un subbed and I just stopped watching… no hate to Jk but i just don’t want to watch anything anymore…

[@nwowolfpacmember481]

Just came to say congrats to Tiff and Casey on their new baby.

[@GrippysocksCC]

The tiff drama is the sole reason why I can't watch them anymore. It just left a bad taste in my mouth forever

[@thehantavirus]

your not the only one, even before i found she got fired, thier videos got stagnant and very stale very fast. thier OTH now, is just about them talking about jerking off, and blaming the viewers for being"woke" because the viewers stop watching them. go figure, geo, bart and joe are kind going through a midlife crisis, as is david. it seems david is also involved. and the side drama with bigmood:jess,boze, gina,,,etc. Apparently boze ditched bigmood and only follows jknews to spite the bigmood girls.

[@tiffanyhawkins3569]

I never clicked so fast On a video in my life!! ❤️❤️ Love to hear the tea from you sis!!!

[@luahlu7152]

Tiff was also Davids assistant at one point

[@kusaiashionamete220]

Gross 🤢 Imagine having to smell that Korean pork belly sweaty bo

[@leonguyen896]

Dang, I used to watch all of their videos way back in the day. I remember when they had dreams of becoming a legit produciton company. I stopped watching when their content got stale with jkn and jkp. They had a segment where they would respond to fan comments on their main channel. It always rubbed me the wrong way how they would perceive innocent comments as personal attacks. It alienated a lot of their fans. Sometimes they'd dwell on it and let it spillover to unrelated jkn and jkp vids. So toxic and immature. And by they, I mean Bart, Joe, and Geo. Your videos popped up on my recommended. I was there when they booted Olivia. You made a really good video about it despite it being so long ago. Doesn't surprise me how it's been one train wreck after another.

[@kelseymlndz5]

I knew about some of these fall outs but your videos have cleared but a lot I wonder if something like this happened with Julia (I remember years back there was talk that she wasn’t being included into the group very often I think specifically with the female crew members). What a toxic work environment as a long time viewer since middle school this is wild to see but not too surprising as I grew I caught on to some distasteful behavior and slowly my interest dwindled. Thanks for unpacking:)

[@angelmakima]

People “fans” really defending Bart and Joe🤦‍♂️💀💀💀 Wake up people, I’ve watched JK for a decade but what they did to Tiff was just out right WRONG!!!

[@camlee2341]

not really ..tiff was over jk news...she was hardly in it and she got a sweet deal...successful channel and podcast not to mention business with junbi juice

[@Jennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

@@camlee2341 exposure does not pay the bills sis.

[@camlee2341]

@@Jennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn did u not read what i wrote..tiff channels gets sponsors all the time and they still get money from junbi juice where joe got them in....without bart and joe ..tiff would still be working a 9-5 job at the hostipal

[@Jennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

@@camlee2341 you must not understand how investing works. Joe asked them to be a part of a company, did u miss the part where they put their own money into it. You act like it’s not a given, if someone invest money, of course it’s expected that they get a cut from it. It wasn’t just given to them. Again. Exposure ain’t a fucking paycheck. Yes they got lucky that people like them and still watch their content, look at the other people who left. They didn’t get so lucky. And their sponsorships are from their own hard work. you’re weird to credit sponsorship that they worked for to their past employer.

[@camlee2341]

@@Jennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn don't matter joe still invited them in on the business deal when there was enough people ..joe fought for them because he's a good guy ..without joe and bart ..tiff would had nothing

[@lucinide1020]

I feel like this is why you don't work for your friends/family. When things don't work out at work, there will be a strain in the relationship. What they did to her was not right and it's fucked up to say this but a business is a business. She never really "fit" with the guys and I feel bad for her. I feel like they don't listen to her 100% when she's telling her anecdotes and such. I do believe however, if Jkparty still exists, she would be moved there like what happened to Julia. I really miss the old Jk where everyone are still "friends" with each other. It's just really sad how things have turned out like how Geo and Tiff used to be idk... friends??? I mean Tiff is pregnant ffs and Geo commented on Julia's recent posts but not Tiffs idk man its just really sad for me. Sorry for the rant :/ Great video btw! Keep it up

[@Greeneyes831]

this still blows my mind.. i don’t understand how ppl could drop someone like that. says a lot tho no? sheesh 🥺💔

[@mercedeswatkins1551]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I was so sad to find out she was no longer in JK when she got pregnant because she was so there for Geo when Geo was pregnant with Taika 😡

[@karlapineda1061]

Seems like something similar happened with Bart and Geo’s gym back in the day. I don’t keep up anymore, but some of the people who worked at the gym and who were in their videos were suddenly gone and then put out similar videos to the ex jk employees. Would love to see you make videos about that whole situation! I’m glad to see these and I’ve subscribed!

[@BlueAmerican26]

@@thehantavirus no no this was YEARS prior to COVID.

[@andykww]

Jk had been going downhill for some time. It was quite obvious that the success received had gotten to Bart, Joe, and David's heads. The way they talk about business and money and success in their cocky and arrogant tone just put me off them and I unsubbed way before all this drama. It wasn't surprising to me this all happened.

[@jadl3278]

Just seems like Bart is the issue.

[@theeddytor3490]

okay this hurts my heart kinda as a grown man. i have followied them from 2012 to 2016 actually... then life happened got busy and now as i had free time i went on their channel... looking into everything didn't see tiff and as curious i searched and found your video. so, thanks for keeping me updated to it. i just want to add, that girl tiff... no matter which ever video it be her enegery always looked downhill little like exhausted because i feel like she use to do a lot of work behind the camera. in terms of topics for jknews or even for games and other stuff. looking at her you can clearly tell she is someone who is well organized person she doesn't just turn on camera and record she is someone prefers to have a good amount of pre work done before creating content. man i had huge crush on her even though she got married. she is amazing individual. now when i checked JKnews for a channel with 1.79Mil subs they are barely making 70K views per video.

[@garylovesmusic1]

in case you didn't know JK has falling down big time , and they have been begging every one that is a guest to stay on but they all said no thanks lol . and Joe maybe moving soon with new gf but don't think that will last too much longer, Joe has been saying he is moved to the island of HAWI and guess who has been living their for 4 years yep you guessed it , it is in fact OLIVA TAI, it's a small island and am sure they will run into each other ... As for BART, GEO is the BOSS she says jump Bart jumps he is to scared to speak up or she will up and leave him if he doesn't do as she says off camera . Personally I never liked GEO and will never like GEO . And so without the orignal cast including OLIVA TAI , JK is dead. As for sloppy DAVID am sure he knows now to stop talking I mean he can talk a lot but when it comes back to him he can not take it, even his gf called him out on it and he didn't say anything more about it after it all blew up in his sloppy face.

[@amandatan4432]

Geo just always rubbed me the wrong way. And I hated when she and David kept claiming how they are still poor.

[@ManguKing]

It is easy to notice that Bart is the main guy talking what Geo says to say, and that Joe is just a free spirit who fights for people.

[@dangda-ww7de]

@@amandatan4432 Where did you get that geo and david said they are poor? I have never heard this before, geo just sold that cali home for over a million buck, not all of it is her but she is not poor, and bought a paid off house in vegas.

[@biomutant1468]

Geo is no the boss at all lmao she’s always making excuses for bart and putting up with his shit, she literally worked so that he could focus on comedy for a while.

[@yomamas1559]

i agree with you up until Geo being the boss of bart, Geo reminds me of a pick me girl, she’s always bending backwards to either defend bart or brush off the weird things he’s done or said, Bart pushes Geo over. i remember geo saying she was depressed and sad in there relationship because she felt bart was acting condescending towards her and she was intimidated by him and felt like she couldn’t keep up with him and stand with him because he was such a “Boss” kind of person in both there business lives and personal life’s

[@HelloDaisy]

I LOOOVE the way you narrated this

[@olivedabove]

Thank you🥺

[@lanegralotiene8039]

I think it’s a cheap excuse when people try to defend themselves with the, “ just because we share parts of our lives with you, doesn’t mean you know us.” Ummm, no. Your personality and lack of character is highlighted. It’s so sad that this show burdened out so terribly. I hope she recovers from this heartbreak.

[@cuhyu382]

Dang I was just watching the other parts! Thanks for the uploads I didn’t know what was going on or what happened years ago

[@sxhxlzxb]

Go watch David’s podcasts where he talks about it…. JK was being too nice to her

[@nwowolfpacmember481]

@@sxhxlzxb 😕

[@PrincessCelestia19]

I haven't watched JK news in a long time. decided to revisit it. So what I'm hearing is. She got fired because they didn't want to give her a schedule? They completely abandoned their friend. That's gratitude for you. You're with them for years only to have them shove your face in the mud.😢

[@Cr1m1nalspeed_1]

This is a VERY misinformed perspective

[@chuuu4610]

I feel like the problems are more Geo and Bart than Joe. As for David- he kinda has the same attitude as Colleen Ballinger in that he plays victim, b*tches about people, backstabs and never admits fault.

[@ali773n]

Oooooohhhh I was waiting on this!!! Yes!!!

[@justvibing2497]

Still sad to me, I used to vibe with there videos. When I was young, I wanted to be like them but now older it's crazy how you see people differently. Vids is different compared to real life

[@ahshalilly638]

You could tell the distance between Tiff and the rest of the crew. Geo was such a bro-girl and was really snide to Tiff and I ALWAYS commented and pointed that out. David was a typical entitled try-hard who was never funny and had to constantly talk over Tiff to be see on the show. Tiff was likeable and herself and even though she wasn't a comedian she was still funny and RESPECTFUL. Glad sh'es movedon!

[@bluetomahawks1144]

They can be cheap af and clicky af. If you're not with them then you're the enemy no matter what. Fr.

[@IronFreee]

What's so shocking about JKFilms is the huge distance between the way they portray themselves in their videos and the heartless reality. I used to watch them occasionally when they still had the whole cast. It wasn't for the stupid things they had to say. What I liked was that apparent friendship between them. It was like watching a stupider, more ignorant version of my childhood friends before we all became absorbed in our families and responsibilities. I could relate to that. That's why learning about their deplorable practices made me lose any sympathy I had for them. It turned a mindless, carefree fun into something much more sinister... and I wasn't interested in that.

[@minrathus]

Thank you for these vids!! I suddenly remembered JK existed and was trying to figure out wtf happened to them. Crazy how I didn't see what a toxic group they were back then. It seems so obvious now

[@xxletm3loveyouxx734]

That's messed up. They made it seem like family...First it was Olivia Thai, then Julia, and now Tiff

[@CECEaf]

Damn I'm tearing up for Tiff. She gave a lot. Her enthusiasm and love was real. She got what she deserved out of the company (new channel, fame, etc). They were possibly jealous when Tiff&Case had JKnews fans all follow them. I'm equally a fan of JKnews and Tiff&Case, so I want to hear JKnews or Geo's personal side of the story as she was her best female friend.

[@VCMarilyn]

I don't see how you can talk about how fantastic of a person she was giving everything to them in this video and also disrespect her by calling her names in the same video.

[@anustart1934]

are you gonna cover all the racist sketches/incidents with bart and joe along with nikki and steve?

[@olivedabove]

They stopped doing sketches before steve & Nikki were around

[@jnightmare0]

@@olivedabove I think he's talking about Steve and Nikki when they made jokes and clowned the black kid who got shot I forgot his name but I'm sure if you type Steve and Nikki racist you'll find the info

[@haileyleach925]

if i’m remembering correctly bart, steve, and david have said the nword MULTIPLE times on jknews in the past

[@CamberRockerCamber]

@@jnightmare0 no. They didn't clown Trayvon Martin. They were a guest on another guy's show. They were playing a game and that host made a joke about Trayvon and Nikki and Steve laughed at it. That's what they were guilty of. They didn't make the joke or any jokes about Trayvon. Their guilt was laughing at the joke instead of speaking up about it. But yeah, Bart and Joe have used the N word before in their early sketches.

[@UlyssesSmith3youtubeENT]

You know who you should do a video on if possible if you want, Julia! I don't know if it was shadiness or something when she left, but still when that happened I feel it was something off about it even though unlike others they actually departed without drama. But I still think she left because she saw things that was happening wrong and wasn't cool with it Julia seemed like the only one there who wasn't on bs and shallow or thought more of herself than she actually was like some of the others came off. Probably why I liked her the best.

[@sylentdrifter]

Damn! Well I’m now up to date! 😮 haha definitely a solid informative video on the crumbling state of JK. Would love your perspective on Gina! The Pros and Cons on her involvement with JK and the previous dramas.

[@infamouschan5378]

I watched your videos last week and I never waited for a video like this in a long time!!! Spill the tea plz 🥺🥺🥺

[@PureVikingPowers]

When Bart talked about raping another man with a broomstick after beating him up and than deleted the video after the fans reacted was when i unsubscribed and i was following for over 5 years. I had no problem with black face or any jokes that's not PC but assaulting another man and raping him in military school just for always being late was the only reason i couldn't support them anymore i still like Joe and David a lot.

[@mars2366]

omg i forgot about this! i always wondered why i stopped watching jknews

[@seansoku67]

Your weak

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Bart was dating that man for years and spent money on him.

[@cloudya111]

Never give your entire life to a company that will replace you within the next hour. They do not give a fuck about you. 💯

[@christiel4302]

I’ve watched a few JK vids over the years, never thought they were that funny except mildly interesting but it doesn’t take that many videos to see that a select number of people in that group are total narcissists. They think they’re being funny but in reality they’re just overbearing with a distorted sense of self importance

[@Chef-Briii]

reasons i dont work with friends.... sucks to see this "Family" fall apart. it is what it is. wish both parties the best..

[@Jaypark2love]

yaaaas, was waiting on this !

[@bulldogfightingforfreedom]

Most of my friends had fallouts amongst each other. I am the only one who is able to maintain friendship with each of them. Occasionally, they bad mouth about each other. Why am I able to be friends with them still, because I never involve them with money and business. I work with colleagues and they will never be my friends.

[@thehantavirus]

Yea thats why its such a mess, joe and bart made it "were like a family" manipulation tactic to make them loyal to company, even if they were being mistreated. this is what other corporations do.

[@jacquelinepayne4737]

I rimmed David out over this. I don't have much respect for David after that. Notice who came out swinging for the home team first 🤔.

[@janetramirez2695]

I remember when they announced their pregnancy. And the only one's who I saw wish them well were Big Mood cast. That's when I knew JK staff was fake towards them including David who claimed to be a good friend. And that's when I stopped watching their channel.

[@thehantavirus]

david is a nasty gossip king,he sides with jk more than tiff. if you visit the subreddit, thier recent vacation videos are all the toxic friends together: MA family, bart and geo, joe and david, like literally no other "Family". not even ryan or ANTHONY. Ma family is whole another can of worms, APPARENTly they like to leech of bart and geo.,

[@Kristian179]

not to mention I think Geo tried to control Big Mood as well, hence why she left

[@thehantavirus]

yea, she couldnt control the girls, so she left, pretty typical of her behaviour. and then all the sht happen between boze and big mood, apparently boze just wanted to use big mood as a launching point for her career, and the big mood girls dint like how boze stole mia from them, so they kinda dissed boze. and boze kept following jk crew on insta,,,etc. to spite the big mood girls. Now that big mood is gone, the girls are probably doing other things, but not nikki apparently since she went back to JKnews, after her own controversy. im guessing nikki being on big mood was going to in conflict of interest with jknews.

[@Allelujah19]

@@thehantavirus Boze started with SMOSH Games, then seeing she stopped coming on that and randomly popped up on JK. Shes as bad as Geo and Bart. The one I feel bad for is Julia the most because they never stood up for her when she was bullied. Then They bullied Josh most likely because he was black. This is why JK failed in the end and the owners now are just cry baby bitches because they made bad deals and lost a lot of money now.

[@lindalemoni5428]

Wasn’t she best friends with Geo???

[@itzitachi3778]

I mean it was the best of both worlds, she didn’t want to be on jknews anymore and jk was heading in another direction. Who cares anymore both parties are doing fine

[@kingdom9686]

Am I trippin I saw someone say they started falling out cause geo tried to screw them on the podcast thats why they changed the name and geo left?

[@nwowolfpacmember481]

That's not why she left the podcast and why they changed the name. It's cause Geo wanted to be there for Taika more and they changed the name so they could attract more sponsors with a more pg name.

[@jamessteadman1064]

That's why Big Bose left, she felt the disfunction. Julia worked with them but her close friends were not jk related, especially after being used by Tommy.

[@zxbeida]

Tommy worked at JK, julia met tommy, tommy got her the job at JK, tommy don’t use Julia

[@jamessteadman1064]

@@zxbeida Julia said on geo's channel that Tommy told her she had nothing else but sex to give him and still didn't want her, Bart and Joe even talked about that.

[@carolfigueirars]

Tiff did some things that rub me of wrong but the way she was treated is like you were never really friends with them, I lost my interest in jk after I heard what happened. It was the last nail, I only watched like a video a week after Julia left. Tiff is not perfect but she deserved better. I unsubed to Joe, Bart, Geo, Jk, Barbell and David. I still follow the crew, the Ma's and the big mood girls. I'm just waiting for the channel to end, I'm glad I never bought any merch.

[@ajk9420]

wow never even knew this happened. Someone used me so hard so tiff if you see this I hope you get over this.

[@GleeChan]

It just seems like a brutal environment, to be honest. If you're not sucking up to one of the condensing bosses, your crawling your co-workers down so that you're not the one who gets shat on. All in the guise of "being a team player" or "being part of the family". On top of that, the content they made created a feel that it was okay for the fans to be assholes in the comments because the cast were always talking shit to each other like that so freely. (I mean, didn't the fans drive Julia away?) So I think everyone was a backstabber. Everyone was a bully in the guise of "humor". Everyone was under constant pressure from Bart and Joe. Whenever anyone had something to say about it, it was an environment where everyone dog piled on that person. "What you can't take a joke?" I think working there brought out the worst in everyone, even the more innocent people like Josh and Julia. I remember seeing both of them pick on other members too. So yeah, this all goes back to who's in charge and how they make those under them feel.

[@Brishafay]

It's not really a shocker Julia been spoke up about what really went down, I've been sense something was off as bart and geo moved to there new home in Arizona I never seen tiff or case. When she had her baby where was Bart and Geo ..it's really sad what fame and money will do with friends/family. Tiffany deserved sooo much more she was a ride or die for that company and ended up getting thrown away and treated less than by ppl who were supposed to be family

[@thehantavirus]

Tiffany tried to move closer to bart and geo, but those 2 moved very quickly to avoid being too close to tiffany. im guessing they already had problems with her years ago like she said,. julia left before there was any significant damage to her relationship with jknews. Shes one of the lucky ones i guess. when tiff and case had a baby, She was already fired from jk news.

[@AlexNur07]

Bart doing Geo's dirty requests lol and David is a joke himself lol

[@kusaiashionamete220]

A short, 35% body fat, korean pork belly joke 🤣

[@iloveyou202]

I used to watch them daily even the casts separate channels and the channel has gotten so boring and they have had so many controversies you can tell they aren’t the best people 🙁

[@amberk2342]

I really do miss the old jk news with Julia tiff geo Bart Joe and David.

[@jamessteadman1064]

Don't forget geo.

[@kusaiashionamete220]

Ew sloppy flabby gut So 🤢

[@GohanYuki]

Literally watched all ur vids just now and tiff had it comin

[@j12300]

David So getting paid $3500 per video while she got paid $600 or $900 that’s why he was riding for them so hard…. I’m so disappointed with all of them

[@xmayoburkex]

Wow how the turn tables. She showed loyalty to a company that didn’t care for anyone and look where that got her. When I hear her story it just reminds me of people getting in an abusive relationship because the partner shows them the attention they never had growing up. It’s….what’s the word she liked to use a lot to other people? Oh yeah pathetic

[@GlenRushz]

Look at how the OG barbell brigade are gone too

[@Proofcomes]

We don’t need a backstory if we did we wouldn’t have clicked on the video, being in a relationship with you must be a torture

[@YOUNGINTERSECTION]

I am just so confused with all of JK at this point. Like I thought the point of bringing on Steve Greene was for some sort of movie plan they had. Also for Joe’s Ex Jessica, did she basically use him? For a Job at JK? In some sort of way? I AM LOSING IT, TOO MANY PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.

[@danielhoffman4026]

I think there is something missing to the story here that has not been said publicly by either party involved. Unfortunately I don't think we will ever find out.

[@danielhoffman4026]

@@thehantavirus That's cuz just like Olivia's "controversy" it's Tiff being a cry baby. Both Tiff and Olivia are just making a stink for the sake of it. JK stayed silent because it's more professional and more so they are being adults about it and not getting sucked into that high school tick for tat BS. They never almost got cancelled for either of these. To be honest, they stepped away to make this "movie" put less effort into the channels and they all just slowly died. That's why they are down sizing and using patreon. Plus now they have other sources of income. Tiff just has to move on.

[@peterlongac]

Tiff can't have it both ways. She says she got left off of the schedule, they're on good terms up until bart & joe say they both want to talk to her. Then AS A FRIEND either bart or joe says i can pay you out of pocket. And now says thats condescending ? I think some feelings were hurt and she knows she can't stay she knew for years but she wanted to, however at the end she kinda fucked over JK im sure if she didnt blow it outa proportion she would be welcomed as a guest like Julia

[@kevinmooniscute669]

i'm just speaking on the money part because everything else is up for speculation on both ends because they're both refusing to share the details of the argument, but yes that is extremely condescending. it's actually really tacky of whoever offered the money and whoever didn't offer any money between bart and joe. she has to admit to them that she is struggling or that she or her family need the money that they're offering?? that is why you give a severance pay, no questions asked. that's how employments ending work. that's how any company works: that the company respects their employees for the time they've given. companies don't owe their employees anything when they're firing them. you can even have employees train a new trainee that's going to be their own replacement. if she was truly a friend, give her ANY amount of money for all of the commitment that's been given to this company or just keep your mouth shut

[@peterlongac]

@@kevinmooniscute669 as a business owner myself, I appreciate cash vs logs. Besides, how cold is it to just throw money at a situation ? Dont you think it's more compassionate to communicate the steps of whats going on then saying we're going to do this like walmart protocol. Thats what i dont get what Tiff is saying. Why blow it out of proportion *When She Doesn't Enjoy Being There* she felt that way for years. If shes so loyal she could be a guest. Julia is loyal to both big mood and jk thats loyal not ciphoning JK for a fight and their subscribers

[@kevinmooniscute669]

@@peterlongac i feel like i'm not speaking from experience, just from a standpoint of how people should treat people. i'm not a business owner, i'm just a staff nurse, but i've seen plenty of turnover in the last 5 years of working- especially in today's climate of how to treat your workers. so i have some kind of understanding on a respectful way to handle things. tbh i think the points and questions you're saying already have input and explanations in on its own from the whole situation lol. bart and joe are clearly leaving us in the dark or giving little as possible with situations like this. tiff has mentioned the lack of communication (from both sides, but obviously moreso on their side which seems for the owners of jk to plan on how they're going to proceed with her) and especially the guest part, as a friend they're already treating her poorly with how her departure from their company is being handled so i agreed with her addressing the situation on her own terms instead of whatever edited narrative and face value/family friendly optic the channel tries to portray this just goes back to the disagreement they had that needs details aired out on. tiff and either bart or joe or both had something blow out of proportion on both of their ends, because both tiff and the owners had a complete lack of communication and let a whole argument just sit for weeks. julia didn't have any disagreement like they did which offset all of this, we can tell she tried to keep jkp alive especially with how she stepped up. imo julia shouldn't be compared with tiff, they have complete different jobs and situations that last part you're saying about tiff is honestly not fair imo but i'll let you have your opinion lol. her speaking out has clearly been just on facts and her experience and how people are getting facts wrong about the whole situation (especially people like david). she clearly wants to put it in the past, so it doesn't help that this video came out and we're bringing all of this alive again lol edit: spelling

[@dangda-ww7de]

@@kevinmooniscute669 Tiff and most of them are not regular workers, they are subcontractors if i would put a title on it, so no severance is needed, they dont work a regular 9-5 job.

[@robertmerrill4460]

Man used to watch JK all the time In highschool they were freaking funny, but now it's just the same dudes on their no new guest or anything.