The Shared Universe Of "Misao" & "Mad Father" EXPLAINED

[@gamersault]

Phew, this series was a trip, so many turns and twists, but a fantastic one which i really enjoyed... What other games do you want me to cover?

[@qazisgone7292]

Lost In Vivo please!!

[@hephaistos166]

Yuppei Psycho is a good recommendation I think but it's not an RPG Maker game...

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

You should cover Ib

[@iverss533]

@@thesunandthemoon9688 Same here

[@cerealboxeseverywhere3566]

i highly recommend the corpse party series, its really god with awesome characters

[@elenpena42564]

As someone who's too easily scared to play those types of games, I really enjoy this videos that let me understand the plot without giving me nightmares

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

I feel ya

[@monstar.x9315]

Same I usually watch gamers play them since I'm a scaredy cat lol

[@meray204]

Same 😅😂

[@victorystar8586]

Same

[@cyncir]

I recommend ManlyBadassHero he adds humor so it's not that scary :)

[@makiroll218]

Mr Onigowara: “ I’m simply a salesman. Aya: You’re not one hell of a butler?

[@fissetis6427]

Oh no cringe

[@christhechilled]

He would be cool as a butler

[@GraveEnd]

SebastianXonigowara CONFIRMED

[@kirstencurry6815]

Hahahahshahahqhhahahahw I'm laughing so hard rn

[@sashawolfson3602]

Black butler reference 😂

[@AizStein]

I like how Miss Library is called Miss Library because of Ogre/Onigawara commented on how Aya must have loved for books for having so many of them

[@TheArtsWizard]

I have been thinking that perhaps Misao is Aya's descendant. Aside from similar looks they both seem to be very loyal to people they love deeply, regardless of what they've done.

[@claireaquos6532]

Oh boy! If that theory is true thought... With what we learn in "Blood mode" I hope Misao was indeed her last decendant

[@inichan8786]

I gotta interject one thing: Him being an "Oni" doesn't make him "evil by nature". Yes, Oni is a demon. BUT what is an Oni for one village could be a beloved god for another. I doubt the word Oni actually tells us about his own intent and nature at all. It only tells us that humans aren't always able to comprehend his reasoning to act as he does. Which depending on which side you are on of his judgement can make him an evil demon to you. I do agree with him being lonely and to some extend wanting someone he can connect with or feel content knowing he has "children in the world" next to the judgement and having beings able to interfere in humans affairs without him always having to reintroduce himself, which yes gives him time to interact with people but probably becomes a boring repetition. The time he lives and his restrictions and abilitys play a big part in how he chooses to interact with and effect people. So my guess is he is to a degree outside from what we deem good and evil. As he has been shown to grand those in despair the power to curse when it was about something they deeply cared about. Ayas mother cared about Ayas life, not the life of other children as much if they had to die for the work to continue. Misao despite being broken down cared about her own life and how it has been stolen from her by quite some people...I think the strong emotions are what intruiges him.

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

This is a long comment, thank you for the insight!

[@makiroll218]

I agree with you.

[@z2yn]

I take it with a grain of salt, mostly because Aya's mother also want someone to continue her great-grandfather's work Edit: doesn't mean that she didn't love her, just means she had another reason to save her from Alfred

[@judomaster0079]

What I understand from this comment is that the ogre is neither good or evilHis actions might be interpreted as good to some and evil to others

[@ruansasa289]

@Baked potatos yokai is the generic term to supernatural beings in japan Onis are a type of yokai Just like kamis

[@igakierczak3471]

Aki's canon name is written with the kanji 亜希, where 亜 is most likely just a phonetic element and 希 meaning "hope"

[@wolfywonder8480]

Strangely, I don't think that Aki is a clone of Onigawara and Aya specifically. It wouldn't be terribly difficult to get human DNA from elsewhere, and if Aya's DNA was involved, I'd expect to see more of her traits, like her straight black hair. A personal theory of mine is that, yes Onigawara is Aki's father, but that their mother is a random human that hasn't been introduced. Aki never mentions their parents outside the beginning of the game when they say they're leaving, which receives no response. This implies that they don't live alone, but are somewhat neglected. I know it doesn't fit perfectly with the whole clone aspect, however I don't think it impossible that Onigawara just kind of hooked up with a human lady. Then, in Dark Space, after Aki was born, he could request an opposite-gender clone of them to be made. Ms. Library says that Aki smells like her because they aren't fully human, not because they're necessarily both clones. Aki's interest in Misao might also be influenced by their home life; seeing Misao get bullied or ignored may remind them of their mother, who seems to ignore them, hence why they would want to reach out and would be relatively forgiving to Misao, even after she's unable to move on and steals away Tohma. Now, about the whole clone thing. So, in the original version of the game, there were no confirmed clones of Aki. Aki at this time was only female, making her the default and canon protagonist. This all seems to imply that female Aki came into existence first. The note that you find about the other Aki and how the two can never meet was originally just a piece of paper on the wall Corpse Party style, suggesting alternate universes. With the additions of the male Aki and the remastered game, I think that things played out roughly like this; female Aki was created through somewhat unorthodox means, either being taken into Dark Space by Onigawara for cloning or at the very least for proper care. This Aki was cloned, however the male Aki still had to develop, so in the meantime, Onigawara found female Aki a home to care for her and oversaw male Aki's progress. Misao's murder occurred, so Onigawara gave her the power of her curse. Female Aki seemed to handle the situation well, but was a bit brutal and apathetic to those she didn't deem worth saving. Killing was also too easy for her than would be preferred. After the encounter, at some point male Aki was finally ready. Onigawara took him to a parallel Earth, setting up the events for Misao's curse to play out exactly as it had in female Aki's universe. This Aki was made to be a direct answer to female Aki's violent and apathetic tendencies, male Aki being overly kind and somewhat indecisive. This proved to be a little too much of an overcorrection, because he couldn't make the final choice to end the curse, so Onigawara allowed female Aki to take over his body to get the job done. In the end, neither were quite what Onigawara was looking for, but they complemented the other's faults, and so while they may never meet, the link they have will allow the other to have minor influence over their counterpart. Convoluted, I know, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me, especially given the fourth wall context between updates and game versions.

[@claireaquos6532]

I like this theory!

[@heavenlysadist]

Damn that's crazy and at the same time, I love it

[@rayumbandismos4947]

I loved this "series" for misao and mad father, really well made and entertaining

[@DarkerGames]

this is just wow and really connects to both of the them in a way everyone can understand,all, in all fantastic explanation GamerSault

[@bascllymikester10-4]

Finally, glad someone is covering this topic. Love these classic horror 8 bit style story games. Leave a like if you remember these from the Mark, Jack and Pewdz days :)

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

Yep✌

[@toratoragaming]

If you name Miss Library Maria she also expresses that she’s not fond of that name but she’ll go along with it!

[@ellipticxl_]

What happends if you name her Alfred?

[@codewallette]

Mr.oniguwara seems like that one man,who you first see is like,scary,but when you get to know him,he's actually pretty nice man

[@irenictea218]

I thought that the ogre guy was a salesman because of a vampire joke, and saying ‘May I come in?’ Surprised to see otherwise

[@key-l3171]

I love this line; "Robin, Also dubbed as, DIO BRANDO."

[@azuramii]

These games made my first youtube years. I love coming back to them and hearing about them. I just really wish they would expand to this universe

[@corneliahanimann2173]

did this creator never make another game and continued with this universe? they're clearly talented!

[@hephaistos166]

I don't think they made another game on this universe but I know he or she still makes games. They recently released a game named "Sen" (Which means Mouse and the name or alias of the Developer)

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

I really hope they did! Edit: nevermind I saw the other reply now

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@hephaistos166 Like, I legit stalked this guy though, I was looking for sen games all over the place and never found anything other than the newer versions of these games, but I always wondered if they just made these two indie games and then just stopped, like the guy from hansel and gretel did, but can you inform me then? a game named sen also by sen? what's the company name behind that?

[@geartime5383]

@@hephaistos166 can you tell me his other games since aside from this two I only found one other mini game the developer had made?

[@geartime5383]

@@corneliahanimann2173 same the only official source I found is that Sen seems to be an Indie developer from Miscreants Room and found his Twitter account where he seems to translate mangas of mad father and Misao oh, and he also has another account just locked from public

[@PartTimeLyricist]

Immediately had to click on it. I was waiting for this lol. I want this universe fleshed out and so much more.

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

Yessss♡♡

[@marygracebalane5693]

I think the yellow kid from the Mad father was cloned thus he is the male aki thats why he is more good and hesitant to kill, then ame goes to Aya as female aki that's why she is brutal and merciless.

[@whittles6326]

You are officially my favorite narrator! I'm ready for the next series!

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

I agree, he's so good at this

[@desert6975]

Only one thing is certain. Agent 47 definitely stepped up his game.

[@KestralKuthule]

Just a nitpick but I think the time mad father is set in is more 1830 to 1940 as that's when chainsaws were actually in existence although the ones up until 1900 were actually hand powered. As long as the series took place in rural Europe the events actually fit better. Particularly with the anaesthetic use later.

[@fankid5093]

Ngl, but whenever the Madfather theme plays, it just feels eeriely calm, like you know something will happen, but at the same time you feel calm watching it happen

[@CaibelTheStrategist]

I failed to mention oni's come in a variety of different colors :D and they mostly punish sinners. Aki means autumn not hope but the name akito means and autumn & bright person but far as i could tell neither means hope. But of course i could be wrong and missed a translation or two.

[@lukejackson2354]

My guess is that he takes interest in the antagonists not on the curse callers. I could be wrong but I thought that he gave Aki the opportunity to correct everything and truly free Misao because what he wants is that the wicked face adversity and he saw in the end that Sohta wasn’t wicked but broken unlike the mad father Alfred as well as useless to him and Misao herself was turning wicked from her resentment.

[@zzzz910]

you’re videos were the only thing to keep me from breaking down in quarantine and when i was tested positive

[@TGD94]

There are truly nice indie/pixel RPGs out there, besides Mad father and Misao there is also "If", "The crooked man", Aoi Oni, Corpse party and so on. Would be awsome if he would make vids about those games too.

[@amazerlazr]

i swear these storylines are so interesting and good to hear that edit at the first part was also good, unrelated but i also feel bad for mr sohta or whatever you call him

[@funninoriginal6054]

"be quiet guys he's explaining the mad father lore"

[@AgapeForgotten]

I think it's cool that the original Misao, that came first, kept a few of the same hints to Mad father.

[@jessicalawslo1840]

Mad father was a really great game when it comes to story. Not as much of a fan of Misao myself. I feel a great video for you to do would to make an explained video for the game(s) “Clea” and “Clea 2” as there is no explained videos of these games anywhere on KZbin. These games are definitely up your ally story wise.

[@shanedawndusk3290]

If you try to name Miss Library “Aya”, she will say, “Daddy’s the only one who calls me that.” That confirms this is Aya, right? Not only that, but Library loves reading, and Aya did too. And Miss Library is shown to have the same features as Aya down to the blue eyes.

[@kalpneetbrar5690]

I was eagerly waiting for this video. Thank you R for making my night a good one.

[@gamersault]

Glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@kalpneetbrar5690]

@@gamersault LOL I was watching this video when suddenly a notification pop out saying ' you have got a like from GamerSault'.

[@HansHeisenberg]

Misao and Mad Father has same share Verse, first of all you started at Mad Father, which is you started in the story, since Aya doesn't know who's Mr. Onigawara, he only revealed his name in Misao. And Aya's Father is alive in Misao, which Onigawara use him in the Science Laboratory. I remember this when I watch Pewdiepie's Misao and Mad Father Walkhrough, but I knew they have the same Universe, In Mad Father, their country is on Germany, while Misao is in Japan, kinda coincidence for Me

[@notannts]

This intro was so cool, R!! Great job!!!!!!

[@Lily-se5bm]

Could they be made with Onigawara and Ayaka DNA? (like she willingly gave her dna as he did bring her back to life?) ? They have orange hair and ayaka’s hair colour is close to an orange shade as well as we don’t know Onigawara hair colour too so I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️ just a thought 💭

[@bailey8061]

i loved watching your videos on both mad father and misao, they were really good! if you're taking suggestions for games, i'd love to see you cover the corpse party series!

[@hephaistos166]

Thank you for this wonderful video, I was waiting for this video since you made the first Mad Father video :D

[@macaemeia146]

2:28 is that a Jojo reference? Jokes aside he does look like part one Dio

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

He will did 😆😅😂🤣

[@GraveEnd]

Looks like beginning of jojos bizarre adventure version

[@mirai5451]

Also remember when the Joestar's mansion got burned when Dio and Jonathan fought eachother ? Aya's mansion got burned too and the one who burned it is Dio , what if they're the same person 😱! I'm joking btw i hope no one will take my comment seriously

[@sarukamax3837]

More games like this please. Thank you R for the video. Great efforts.

[@mrgamemaster7761]

*insert Aya and Robin reenacting a moment from JoJo here*

[@JFra472449]

I hope this guy makes more games. I've enjoyed both these games.

[@cancertourmaline6798]

Man. If you want a really i depth game that will let you make, like, 15 videos, you should check out the 'Crooked Man' universe, and all the games before and after it.

[@shannonmoore1116]

Ooooh! That's a very good idea/recommendation! That's another gaming universe with a crap ton of interesting and fun lore! I love the creator of that universe. But then, I have a huge soft spot for pixel horror games.

[@elderwolves]

Okay- I LOVE this take on this.

[@dinx5742]

You should play detention! It’s real good horror game that takes place on real events I would love to see you make a theory on it :D

[@somenerdygirl4696]

I didn't even think of it this way about Aki! Great video! Also, how come she or he is able to be killed by other spirits and things though? Like Alfred if it was a test?

[@59master60]

Markiplier was so hyped when he played these

[@jocelyngatustorrecarion162]

I love the song in misao and misao smile is so cute

[@karlsargant3985]

The ogre is a lot like tempus from DnD, they are both favoring sides whenever they feel like.

[@gabrielalejandrobarronsara8004]

GamerSault puts a jojo reference Me: I've seen enough, I'm satisfied

[@maymeowmoo]

Holy the editing is awesome! Overall nice vid to watch :3

[@abdullah__--]

oh man I really like your videos keep going forward and never stop -Your fan always good bye

[@ladtooner9906]

“this game will contain spoilers” me: like i’ll ever play these scary games

[@pumpkinheadnight]

I wonder if there’ll be a series of Ib explained

[@thesunandthemoon9688]

I hope so too

[@shawnwinger4997]

Me too I love Ib and it had such a following!!! I wish we had a second game or a spiritual successor set in the same world

[@pumpkinheadnight]

Now that I think about it, what about the witch's house? That game would get many people to bang their hand or head on the wall-

[@judomaster0079]

Keep up the good work man I’m excited for the next video

[@himmel_channel]

I wonder if in the male version when he finds the test tube of his female counter-part would the note say the same thing: "I am another you blah blah blah". I have a feeling tho, that it'll say something different considering they have different attitudes.

[@claireaquos6532]

It said the same thing. Female Aki is more apathic but she's still a good person overall. I mean, even after being sacarstic about forgetting saving Yoshino and killing Katura, she was still willing to help them moving on and free them from Misao's hatred.

[@tirenibabatunde7162]

sault: other wise know as dio brando. me: jo jo

[@Clownvibes-os3tp]

I love games like this and I hope to make one in the future :)

[@ZenTerra-N.O.V.A]

Understandable Lore... You sounded like a *Demon Hunter who observe every suspicious human life,* wearing an agent suit along with a vampire cloak... Brought a Heavy Machine Gun combined with a hook and a small grenade launcher.

[@twinklesprinkle4140]

LoL I how Ruben is always changed to Dio

[@rokudokuun]

been waiting for this thank u!

[@elisaarte1681]

From the secret ending of mad father when there is a replica version of Aya in a capsule, it was the librarian in misao

[@MollyDollyy774]

Sooooo... What I'm getting is that Ogre/Onigawara is a God, that Judges humans, and does it for fun in an Evil but decently Positive way, giving evil people the power to curse, but helping the good people to stop the bad ones... It's all some game to him, and so Mad Father and Misao are connected by the Characters being in both games in some form

[@ragnaxbloodedge]

I hope they make a new game connecting this two series and I want to know what happaned to Robin during the Misao timeline

[@claireaquos6532]

You do realize around 200 years past between both games right? Robin is probably death by that time.

[@billtrent6520]

So if you were to put Onigawara on A D&D alignment chart would be lean more on lawful evil or lawful neutral? I think it might be a fun subject to talk about.

[@nathan9931]

Love your content man keep it up!

[@PotatoStarch856]

Keep making awesome videos!

[@mcstabbins4501]

Misao and Mad Father were one of the first RPG horror games I played in the past so these have a special place in my heart Always thought the Ogre kept Alfred alive as a way to punish him

[@jessicacotton9381]

Did anyone else notice that when he sed dio it glitched and for a split second you can see dio from jojo buzare advdnchers

[@juwyie7541]

Please please please do the crooked man and witch's house! Oh and Ib!

[@heliamahmoudian2479]

Been waiting for this!!!

[@gemrock]

I hope Misao gets released on the switch.

[@rita8274]

Hoping they continue with another series in this installment. This is a pretty interesting story.

[@HaiseKuromeruMMD]

You thought the boy's name is Robin but it was me DIO!

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

They look twins

[@MJ-zn2gf]

Robin should've been the one throwing the knives cuz well dio

[@zacharyrodriguez4348]

So. .. misao is an indirect sequel to mad father

[@michaelmurray8134]

Have you ever played the game called Wadanohara and the great blue sea? Or Mogeko Castle?

[@moeprosciutto5871]

Hello! I’ve been watching your videos especially on RPG games that you’ve covered. I would love to have you cover Pocket Mirror (which is then preceded by Little Goody Two Shoes - “sequel” but it’s actually its prelude). I’d like to hear your thoughts and insights on the plot and the characters! ☺️

[@heliamahmoudian2479]

Can you please make RPG videos more often?

[@Touhou20246]

I actually remember that I saw an image of a fan made manga were the one referred to as dio by the fans goes to encounter the adult Aya drevis and saying quote I am here to keep my promise to stop you if you became like your father.

[@SAMURAI-fm1ln]

good refrence 2:31 LOL pause the vid to see it

[@zhuiwie8488]

Male Aki: "I can't sacrifice a life" Female Aki: *haha bat go swing*

[@syahirismail1856]

robert as dio brando, WOW

[@kaeyasimp3918]

will you do omori? :3

[@munches7460]

Maybe the reason that the guy can't kill because he is like dio

[@กฤษดากลิ่นพิกุล]

I think that salesman demon Ogre/Onigawara is the true last boss, bigger bad greater scope villain. He's just acting fake his good exterior, and as bad as bad humans. In this RPG horror games universe it's clear that Gods and Demons and Magic exists. As well as parallel worlds timelines and other world afterlife dimensions. He's too strange and seem dangerously untrustworthy doubtful suspicious. It's possible that he's even the one who created caused and behind Drevis Family Curse in the first place. "Curse of the Drevis Family". "Curse powers." Is it possible that it's him all along who behind everything all of these in the first place. Caused and behind all this Curse. He and his role is really a whole universe series Bigger Bad Greater Scope Villain after all. Ib, Misao, the Witch's House, etc. All are in the same universe continuity but different worlds. They're all linking relating. The Curse of the Drevis Family (making all of them become psychopathic serial killers for generations, watching the good and bad people fighting for fun). Guess who had Powers of giving spirits the Curse Powers use to torture others in the first place just to see humans conflicts for fun....... They made the Remake in 2020, with all the hints that it seem to say they gonna had more future stories, is that mean the developers are doing a sequel in progress and it's going to come soon?.... I ship simp Aya and Dio/Robin, wanting them to be together. And here it's obviously that Aya do miss him so much everyday, speaks of him fondly, and Dio do also deeply cares for her, like fall in love with her. It might and would be so hurting painful for him to come to stop the very one he loves even it's necessary...

[@vladbossyt6436]

Robin to Alfred: GOODBYE ALFRED Edit: this whas a JOJO reference

[@Ghostmond]

Dio brando is wild

[@scarletassassin523]

2:30 oh I see you are an JOJO fan

[@Jreft]

Stray cat crossing please.

[@VXC32483]

Wait…. Did he say Dio Brando ?

[@jocelyngatustorrecarion162]

A curse in your house a curse in the school

[@KurtaVT]

Dio. I saw Dio. IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THAT???

[@waifuhunter7449]

can you do a video on corpse party plz

[@greendude2616]

The universe is full of exitment

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

I guess Dio is Dio Brando for Jojo Bizarre Adventure XD

[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

2:30 ok... *inhales Boi

[@keshagriffin3375]

however......... since Aya does not have brown hair could it be possible that Aki was created from both Onigawara and Alfred's DNA?

[@TailsFan]

Maybe Onigawara had brown hair? He's bald, we can't tell.

[@SoraBread.]

2:30 IS THAT A MUDAFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE?!?