The Shining: What's going on with Room 105?

I think I've either unlocked the mystery of Room 105 or I've opened a new can of worms.
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[@mikedouglas9863]

Great video. Doesn’t matter how far fetched, I love hearing shining theories ❤️

[@tankardoftales4645]

Thanks... KZbin doesn't like outside links so I'll post you another comment because I doubt KZbin will notify you the message.

[@tankardoftales4645]

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[@davidlean1060]

The bear figure is Danny. The clues are scattered throughout the film, Danny is repeatedly cross symbolised with teddy bears. The male is Jack. Even though we see Jack in his scruffy clothes in the Gold Room, we see him in a tux in a clip from the making of. Had Jack been attending the Gold Room party 'back in the day', he would have been wearing a tux. What Wendy sees is Danny being forced to pleasure his abusive father. This happens right after the 'fatherly love' scene.

[@victoryak86]

The tux hat Jack was wearing was portrayed in the final photo. That is why he was wearing it.

[@hermanhale9258]

I think that is possibly correct, the bear is Danny, it's like Wendy is having a dream. Wendy running around with a knife is similar to Rosemary running around with a knife at the end of Rosemary's Baby. And then Rosemary sees her baby for the first time, and as she slowly reaches out to pull back the curtain and see the baby, this represents a moment that is going to change everything forever. There is no way to get back to normal, to a happy home, from this moment of the film. And for Wendy, maybe the same. She realizes somebody has been abusing Danny. Does she realize who the abuser is? Maybe, or maybe not.

[@davidlean1060]

@@victoryak86 Another clue you are not thinking of is the guy in the corridor appearing to Wendy. 'Great party, isn't it?'. That guy has a gash on his head where Wendy clobbered Jack with the baseball bat. There's Jack and tuxedos cross symbolised again. The guy with the bear is Jack.

[@hunterwhitner6998]

This is all correct

[@jakejoseph5534]

Kubrick has trapped you in his maze, you may never get out. The room numbers are intentionally incorrect to misdirect you. The first floor is the Lobby, on the elevator it says (L), there are no guest rooms in the lobby. The second floor is 2, but the rooms are numbered both in the 100s and 200s, just to mess with you. That scene with the bear costume you can kinda see the guy in the tuxedos flaccid dick. Kubrick created this film to trap people like you, the part of the brain obsessed with puzzles is also the part of the brain that fills in missing information. By creating discontinuity in every sensory aspect of the film, the viewer fills in the blanks with subjective information. You fell right into Kubricks labyrinth

[@jakejoseph5534]

@IzzySkittlezZ we all get trapped. It’s why these film analyses are so addictive to watch. Anyone can bring something new to the discussion because the subjectivity of all viewers is bottomless. Especially regarding numerology, Kubrick put in red herrings all over the film as well as left the plot open to interpretation, and by doing so he created a cinematic Rorschach Test for every viewer

[@aWomanFreed]

That’s not bad

[@jackseditzzz]

Love The Shining Videos.

[@hermanhale9258]

I grew up with JFK photos all over the place - mostly in magazine spreads, also the classroom wall and people had little black and white photos of him on their walls - only after he died, I guess. Anyway, I never thought Ullman was like JFK, but I thought he was a politician of the seventies type. The second time we see him, in the leather jacket, he looks like a game show host or a celeb going on a talk show to promote his new movie. I definitely thought "Hollywood", and in the deleted scene, Ullman did live in Malibu, where movie stars were known to live.

[@tankardoftales4645]

usually the fake Moon landing conspiracy theory connects Ullman to look like JFK. I'm not sold on the fake moon landing theory. I feel that Stanley Kubrick pushing hints about the fake moon landing is almost a copy to the Paul is dead conspiracy theory.

[@hermanhale9258]

@@tankardoftales4645 I was watching that Redrum/Mirrorform stuff last night and Ullman did look like Kennedy, somehow, in the desk scene. More his eyes and his face than his hair. I have to quit giving my opinion about everything now. I hate having to backtrack.

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@hermanhale9258 backtracking is ok... I'm not an expert, and I don't want to assume to be an expert. I'm creating my videos to create dialogue. find out what others think and learn.

[@davegentry-pu9xm]

Whoa...room 105. 😵‍💫

[@tankardoftales4645]

Sadly I missed "Paint it Black." 😆

[@CoreyW6292]

That was a very nice video. The founding member of the 27 club was a blues guitarist by the name of Robert Johnson. Legend has it that he sold his soul to the devil at a crossroads. That inspired his Crossroads Blues piece. Incredible guitarist. He was killed by a poisoned glass of whiskey given to him by a club owner whose wife had been doing Robert. Janis died in room 105 of the Crossroads Motel. Just extra information. God bless and have a nice day!

[@CoreyW6292]

You know, maybe it is possible that while Stephen King was all coked up and whiskey bent for a decade........i like to think that King was forgetting that the "Shine" first came to him not by Lennon's Insant Karma but by Pink Floyd's tribute to their founder Syd Barrett in "Shine on you Crazy Diamond". Or maybe Kubrick used it as a motif. Syd wasn't homicidal but was schizophrenic and what a trip. The Shining was made for a good visual trip but ultimately a bad trip once the crazy came. You would get Shine, Crazy and Kubrick's "diamonds "......then again, it is just wishful thinking?

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@CoreyW6292 Darn I wasn't thinking of Pink Floyd "Shine on you Crazy Diamond" That would make sense because the Album was also about Working with the Man. I would have to look into it :)

[@tankardoftales4645]

I didn't look up Robert Johnson because his death was in 1938 and I thought he was added to the list because of Kurt Cobain (That's because his death was when the 27 club name was coined)... So I didn't know about Robert Johnson death from poisoned whiskey. Although his death was unknown, and there are a lot of assumptions... Thanks more digging here :)

[@CoreyW6292]

@@tankardoftales4645 Also on the cover, one of the 2 men was literally on fire!

[@CoreyW6292]

The Wish You were Here album with Shine on you Crazy Diamond.

[@manuelkong10]

I think it's really a stretch to say that room 105's number is easier to see, then others. It's at the same height, it's at the same angle. It's the same difficulty to see it.

[@tankardoftales4645]

lol.... I mean it was the clearest to see on film.

[@Gershom.]

💎Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys was friends with Charles Manson. Snowman King looks like Manson in the “Ex-CAMPUS writer hits the big time” article.💎

[@tankardoftales4645]

Yeah Stephen King looks like Charles Manson, although I believe somebody (on the Shining project) compare Stephen King to Yosemite Sam because of the unibrow...

[@Gershom.]

@@tankardoftales4645 💎Yeah, and the Tasmanian Devil💎

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@Gershom. your right he's closer to Taz

[@CoreyW6292]

Actually, if you see that full print of that picture of King......it is for the university's newspaper, it shows him holding a double barrel shotgun pointing to the camera with the heading "STUDY DAMNIT!" A had a full belly laugh the 1st time I saw that.

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@CoreyW6292 wow... I'm looking for that now... saw it... at the end of the clip I was going to show similarities of King and Yosemite Sam (which I believed King's actions inspired the loony toon references). I removed it because it seemed like a stretch in that video... might add it now. As for loony toons references... Hallorann is Bugs Bunny (he said what's up doc) Danny, Jack and Wendy are from "Duck Dodgers in the 241/2th Century (1953) which the short was being played during the opening of Star Wars in 1977. Danny (the unnamed Marvin the Martian) holds a toy ray gun. Jack the explosive Daffy Duck and Wendy the submissive Porky Pig... I know some people try to link Danny to Bugs Bunny, he's not bugs bunny...

[@annodomini1991]

Definetly interesting.

[@tankardoftales4645]

Crazy... I didn't think there was a connection then I discovered Brian Jones owned the house of Winnie-the-Pooh author... and I know my wife was joking around with Electric Ladyland, but the placement of the lamps and the poster mirrors the Album cover... I'm not sure there an Album cover connection... Electric Ladyland and Abby Road can be seen in the movie...

[@theobjectofart]

First comment!!! Will add more later.

[@tankardoftales4645]

Hope your enjoying it... I'm almost done with your video. :)

[@theobjectofart]

@@tankardoftales4645 This is pretty interesting. The room numbers are probably very, very important. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. Thanks to your video you helped me notice that the rooms surrounding the Torrance's apartment in the staff wing are mostly windowless rooms. 😲 That's just so creepy. That and the windowless rooms across the hall from Room 237. Why so many rooms without windows??? Awesome work!!! 🤗

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@theobjectofart Thanks...

[@misspickles47]

Holloran's poster relates to his culture of being Black American. Most young Black Americans had posters like those in there apartments (mainly single men, and teenage boys). I don't think that the posters have anything to do with the story per se. Those types of posters were everywhere in the 60's and 70's. Hollaran is back home in FL, in his bachelor pad. And in the imagination of it all, even though Halloran may be kinda old for the posters, he is hardly home, and evidently still a bachelor so he kept them. However in the Abbey Road connection, you left out the fact there's a VW Beetle on the album cover and Jack Torrance's family car is a VW Beetle, which ties into Kubrick's references to Germany and the Nazis easter eggs sprinkled throughout the movie.

[@tankardoftales4645]

Thanks. I originally though the posters was something Kubrick thru in to keep the movie an R-rating. I didn't leave out the Abbey Road connection, I didn't talk about it in that video because I was spotting the connection to the 27 club. I'm not sure if I talked about the Wish You Were Here connection in that video (sorry I don't remember). I do have plans in talking about abbey road but I feel so many people covered it. Unfortunately I did miss talking about the black doors. It was a few weeks later when I realized I miss them. If you look at the elevators you'll noticed a red panel (these red panels could refer to false doors [red doors]) and if you look at the black doors, the setup are very similar to the elevators except the middle is a black door. The Song Paint it Black, the first line is I see a red door and paint it black. Paint it Black is a Rolling Stones song and Brian Jones was a huge part of the creation of the song, he did the melodies before they wrote the lyrics. I made a video on Rumble which combined the opening credits of the Shining with In the Flesh? The opening song from the Wall. I made no changes to the song or credit sequence. You should check it out.

[@hermanhale9258]

For some years I have wondered if Paul McCartney is behind the "Paul is Dead" videos, trying to keep his name relevant. And I would suspect the same about rock stars at the Overlook Hotel. Their record companies are still trying to sell products. Although I would love it if it turned out there was a hidden wing with the 27 Club partying, I don't think so. Even though when Ullman is leading them on the tour, I always did think of Abbey Road, and I wondered why the hell Kubrick would do that. The only reason I can see is he wanted to trigger Paul is Dead memories in people. I read once an essay by a woman who said all of young America had gone through a religious experience - like an initiation - where they found out that everything they believed was a lie - Paul was Dead - and there were secret meanings hidden everywhere in plain sight. And that is kind of what happened to the people who tell their stories in Room 237. I do not think it is ethical to do this to people.

[@tankardoftales4645]

I think all members in the Beatles was behind the Paul is Dead. Unfortunately, I believe the 237 theme strings from 3 Faces of Eve. In the story (towards the end, 237 is Eve home address and she was traumatized because when she was Danny's age, she was forced to kiss her dead grandmother) I think the address in Images 1972 was referencing 3 Faces of Eve. Although the apartment number is 1334 (137) ...

[@hermanhale9258]

@@tankardoftales4645 I always thought George and John, and maybe Ringo, were doing black magic spells (with the backwards recordings) on Paul to MAKE him die. As they felt he was standing in the way of breaking up the band. Of course, none of them would admit that. I think the photos and the lyric clues were mostly made up by fans and silly. I don't even remember them, now. Except for George Harrison pointing to five o'clock on the back of Sgt. Pepper. Cranberry Sauce always gave me the creeps, though.

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@hermanhale9258 It would make sense, but I got the feeling that all 4 members wanted to break away from the Beatles before Sgt Pepper. But I think the band's success was so huge that it made it difficult for them to break away. Based on what I heard, the real issue was the contract they were in, they were screwed in making serous money during the record release but they were able to make up by sending additional music out (which is why the Beatles has an insanely huge list of recording for the band's existence.) I think by the end of the 60's they were burnt out by working together. I do believe the Paul is dead theory was pushed by the band because they were milking the success.

[@hermanhale9258]

@@tankardoftales4645 My info all comes the 60s-80s, when I used to be into the Beatles. I heard John told them he quit and Paul said, OK, but don't tell the press, and then soon after Paul put out his solo album and announced HE quit the Beatles, getting a lot of press. And John felt that was a dirty trick. And John thought the line on Paul's solo album was directed to himself, "You took your lucky break, and broke it in two..." Meaning, John had quit the Beatles, and Paul would have kept the band going. Regarding Paul is Dead, the Beatles acted quite crabby about Paul is Dead, when they were asked. The world thought it was extremely interesting, but the Beatles didn't want to talk about it. As a fan, that was a let down. Like your parents telling you, "No, stop being silly."

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@hermanhale9258 II agree Paul seemed to behind the trigger in closing the door to the Beatles, but I recall the powerhouse of the Beatles was Ringo Star. I think he made the most from the 1970's. John seemed to have issues in making hits. Paul - I think the name Wings confused most Beatle fans. Even though Paul was Wings, I don't think he had the success he was looking for. I'm not sure about Harris, he seemed to be not pushing hard enough until the 1980's Please note these are my thoughts. I do believe the Beatles would of made a reunion in the 1980's after Micheal Jackson buys their catalog. But the reunion would be short lived, maybe 2 albums - to break Thriller. And I believe the reunion would be pushed by Lennon. (naturally his murder stopped that) .

[@sonospace8498]

Great work Tankard. How about a review of Images by Altman. Also, Altman and Ullman's names are connected.

[@tankardoftales4645]

LOL... I've done a video that showed the similarities between The Shining and Images (1972)...

[@sonospace8498]

@@tankardoftales4645 I missed that one. I will go back and watch. Thanks

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@sonospace8498 no problem. I highly recommend Images 1972... Another movie to watch, possibly inspired Stanley Kubrick creation for the Shining. Although it might take me 3 hours to explain... Shriek of the Mutilated (1974)...

[@sonospace8498]

@@tankardoftales4645 Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out.

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@sonospace8498 watch the one with the Popcorn song. :)

[@psalm91.666]

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[@tankardoftales4645]

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[@Gershom.]

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[@tankardoftales4645]

Thanks!!!!

[@Gershom.]

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[@manuelkong10]

I'll keep my mind open to the bear Costume is Danny idea but I think that's another real far fetch stretch.

[@hermanhale9258]

Some people say it is Wendy. But who is the other guy?

[@phyarth8082]

James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix (born Johnny Allen Hendrix). Numerology of English alphabet Jimi Hendrix=114, another Kubrickian number CRM-114 which has own Wikipedia page and 105=1+0+5=6 and 114=1+1+4=6. Opening of Back to Future Fox uses key to start CRM-114 electric amplifier that after one guitar lick gets killed. BTF is most famous For Chuck Berry - Johnny be good emulation. And Shelly Duvall became noticed in "Nashville" 1975 movie as free spirit groupie are much more 27 clubs for groupies than rock stars that just plain math. Very interesting fact that person in bear costume is cleaning gentleman lap of spilled wine it has zero sexual intention maybe in Wendie's eyes it can be different. This gentleman have most generic of British upper-class twit, lord, sir, nobleman is generic physiognomy (face) possible. But men in bear costume have sharp teeth thus to label person in bear costume "fallatio bear" is stupid and complete nonsense, or maybe my mind is not dirty enough .

[@tankardoftales4645]

I believe Steven Spielberg [Director and Producer] incorporates many Kubrick references.

[@kennethmullen-qe9hg]

Well if nothing else, if you didn't get anything else right, this entire video, you'd certainly (pinky-)nailed it there right at the end right to the head...in addiction to not taking sh*t, and not goin' too terribly far off of the fattest rails while on and doing rail after rail, Casey Jones bein' the most common conductor, Jerry always ordering and warnin' him to 'watch your/his speed' Wendy seeing after looking too much and too long and hard into the mirror, that man-bear-hog legs splayed so all akimbo before him/it, sucking it all up every crumb every drop as if it'd came through a short straw to him or Wendy who hadn't had any irrational issues to deal with forced to or through her face, until the snow started flowing, coming down in abundance, seemingly around all abound near-mpossible to escape it entirely, an' oo wee! What a mighty fine smell getting all around, encapsulating you/her, it is, or would be, as well! Says Lynard Skynyrd about the subject lines, anyhow! But the one thing you'd gotten right without a snout while gettin' right, was where, there at the end (of the line, WHOOOSH! All aboard; tickets, please!), was when you casually mentioned how "cocaine is/was really eye-opening" and what an understatement that was...also, though, an overstatement, as it also can easily become extremely eye-closing: IT being the most extreme of eye-closing, I would venture (off, down the rabbit hole, to the deepest recesses of space where all including hope has been lost and out way on out into left field) a toot or snoot of a toot-snootin' boot-scootin' boogie of a _Boogie Nights_ and a Studio 54 highly educated guess (that will tear apart your family while tearing up your sinuses, and with a big enough hit will bring a big tear to the user's/abuser's eye! Aye aye there, Captain! Where've you parked the yellow submarine again Skipper? New York city! Get the rope, there, _Pace!_ )! LmMFaO!!!

[@tankardoftales4645]

I did miss elevator and the red false door, and the black door with the similar "elevator design"... The Rolling Stones song "Paint It Black" another connection to Brian Jones (especially it was him that started the beats)

[@tankardoftales4645]

Here is something really cool. I'll post it on another reply, KZbin won't give you a notification if the link was attached to this reply.

[@tankardoftales4645]

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[@kennethmullen-qe9hg]

@@tankardoftales4645 Heck yeah man! Pretty sweet and it definitely brings back a vibe of that classic mash-up, Dark Side of the Wizard of Oz! And I'd say it'd prolly be a pretty safe bet to say that S.Kubrick had to've pushed play on a DSotM album just as that third MGM's lion's roar faded out, signaling to viewership how a trip of a lifetime was just about to begin, surely, Kubrick partaking, in that particular, very special screening, of those very different classics, melding, and intertwining, until that of a nearly perfect trifecta of classic film, rock album, and party favors erupts into its face-melting crescendo a time or two...most likely in his younger or hipper and/or hippiest of years, LmMFaO! ;P :o)

[@lochlandoyle8158]

Something off with you audio, seems to be fading in and out abruptly as you begin and finish speaking

[@tankardoftales4645]

I bought a new microphone after that video or soon after. Sorry.

[@lochlandoyle8158]

@@tankardoftales4645 cool :) was just letting know:p

[@tankardoftales4645]

@@lochlandoyle8158 thanks... im still a growing and learning.