Is 10mm here to stay this time or is it just a fad? I'm curious to know what you guys think.
@matthewblumenthal8042 жыл бұрын
For myself, when I'm going to be around people, I carry 9mm. When I'm on the land or in the woods, I carry 10mm. Love them both. Don't intend to change.
@webviking2 жыл бұрын
10mm has been around a long time. I own many 10mm pistols and love them. For me, 9mm is too small and .45ACP is too big. 10mm is just right, and more powerful.
@mxuxrxdxexrx35402 жыл бұрын
Stay brother
@webviking2 жыл бұрын
@Living in North Carolina! Right on, and thanks for your service. I bought a few .40S&W pistols with polymer frames years ago. When people say .40S&W is a "snappy" round, they aren't kidding. The size of the round is good, but firing .40S&W rounds in lightweight polymer frame pistols is a nightmare for average-size people. I sold mine. If I could have found high quality .40S&W pistols with steel frames, weighing over 40 oz., I would have bought them, but I couldn't. 10mm is the best choice all-around. However, full-size 10mm pistols need steel frames, and weigh 40-45 oz. I'm surprised Sig built the new P320-X10 with a polymer frame, weighing only 33 oz. Let's ask Sig to offer a full-size, striker-fired, high-capacity 10mm Legion with a steel frame or TXG tungsten-infused grip module like the P320-X5 Legion, creating a weight of 43.5 oz.
@donzimmerman58292 жыл бұрын
Those of us in Grizzly and wolf country will argue that it is here to stay
@ikacatfish2 жыл бұрын
As one of the 3 women who regularly watch this channel, I would give one to my husband and one to my father so they would finally have something in common. My dad would use it for his 1911s and my husband would use it to pack ammo or use it as his luggage when we visit his parents. The x ten I would like for me!
@behindthewolfseyes2 жыл бұрын
I'm a female fan of the channel and 10mm. I love my G20 and carry it in cooler weather, but a slimming grip mod may yet be in its future.
@BigCruddyTv2 жыл бұрын
@@behindthewolfseyes lies
@behindthewolfseyes2 жыл бұрын
@@BigCruddyTv It's the G20 or an LCP Max depending one the day. I don't know what to tell you. I'm not the only woman I know that shoots ten.
@patrickburns4821 Жыл бұрын
You are an awesome woman
@JacksonWalter7352 жыл бұрын
Finally! I'm so glad this is a thing. I'm also glad that Sig is transitioning away from an optics system where you have to remove your rear sights on their newer firearms.
@gavinm13472 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any plans to update the P365 with this new feature?
@chrisaubrey2732 жыл бұрын
the spectre series p365 (the luxury version) already has this feature. I think the new p365 chambered in .380 has it also
@JacksonWalter7352 жыл бұрын
@@gavinm1347 I don't know about any plans to update the current models, but the newer P365s that Sig has released uses the new optics system.
@zombieslayer77592 жыл бұрын
@@JacksonWalter735 That hurts me because my P365 XL that I got a few months ago doesn't have that feature.
@askingshoe22 жыл бұрын
@@zombieslayer7759 I just got my X last week. So I feel your pain
@TheFraziers2 жыл бұрын
Props to a manufacturer that will just outright say "Yes" when asked if they're gonna deliver a certain product. Can someone ask the folk at FN if they're gonna give us a 509 in 10mm? That's really what I want.
@arthurillusion2 жыл бұрын
They said no to a Redditor 2 years ago on whether the 10mm p320 would come out one day or not.
@boostedbadboyzx12r312 жыл бұрын
@@arthurillusion well given the fact that was around the time they were dealing with the drop accidental discharges, I'm not surprised they said no. They had bigger problems to deal with.
@rayw35372 жыл бұрын
*FNX in 10mm
@Mastersnake3922 жыл бұрын
@@rayw3537 this and bring back the fs2000 with modern updates
@OnceShy_TwiceBitten2 жыл бұрын
yes
@douglasspende66852 жыл бұрын
Great video. I been using Sig Sauer P 220 and 320 since my Marine Corps days 1987 to 1991. I carried the 45 ACP in the Marines and Law Enforcement for 26 be years. Great weapons with no problems. I would love to get the X20. I love 10mms.
@camelface12 жыл бұрын
More 10mm! It can be loaded weak to be like a .40S&W for personal defense, loaded hot with penetrators for bear country, loaded heavy with 220gr for subsonics, and loaded hot and light out of a 16” barrel can reach 2,800fps. It checks all the boxes within 150 yards. Just need more manufacturing of it.
@tomsnowden62012 жыл бұрын
A lot more 10mm please
@Wildwestwrangler2 жыл бұрын
Why would you think the 220gr would be subsonic? You can get 1200 fps with 220gr
@OnceShy_TwiceBitten2 жыл бұрын
@@Wildwestwrangler you dont load do u ? lol
@GuitarGuy46472 ай бұрын
@@OnceShy_TwiceBittenwhy would I want sub 10’s?
@GammaRayTrae2 жыл бұрын
Super excited for this gun. I love the 320 but I’ve wanted it in a 10mm and now it’s here
@TheNLHAZE2 жыл бұрын
Love it !!
@eriklind51742 жыл бұрын
I've been a 10mm junkie for 15 years. A first gen G20 was my first Glock. I built an AR 10mm that I am taking on a hog hunt as well as a P80 with a 6" slide and jokingly call it my howitzer. Been looking at a revolver in 10 to round out the collection. Thanks for another great review
@LYLEWOLD2 жыл бұрын
same. waiting on a GP100 in 10mm to showup. hope to get it reamed to 10mm magnum
@tomtomlinsonppg27562 жыл бұрын
Good on Sig Sauer for putting the 10mm P320 out. I'd like to see a 4" barrel version. Good review and shooting James.
@thomasmoralesjr.88192 жыл бұрын
As a retired Army veteran I have stayed active in the shooting community. 5.11 equipment and attire have been my go to standard. Quality made and common sense design keeps it in high demand and usage. It’s what I recommend to my sons, bother and nephew as EDC. Keep up the great work and support of LEOs, military and average prepared community. Stay safe , stay strong.
@richs93292 жыл бұрын
Great review of the Sig 320. My Father has always been the “over protector”, only as I saw it as a young buck. Now with my family, it is my upmost duty to provide that covering. I’ve just started my firearm journey with M&P 9mm EDC (the son), and was very interesting in a 10mm (the dad). Perfect companion just like my Father and I. Hitting the range with matching bags having the necessary gear to train hard, keeps us well prepared to protect this house! Thanks guys!
@donzimmerman58292 жыл бұрын
Having shot the 10mm in various configurations and manufacturers the heavier the gun the more pleasant it is to shoot. The S&W 10 series always seemed the best but with only a 9 round capacity. Sig should offer the infused frame. Very smart to design this pistol with a smaller grip circumference than the Glock - which seems to be made for only those with the biggest hands.
@bsmithhammer2 жыл бұрын
What I've noticed, having shot heavy, all steel, 10mm pistols and some polymer pistols is that heavy steel isn't necessarily that much 'better.' The recoil impulse with a polymer frame feels different than a steel frame, and sure you can go too light and then pay for it with painful recoil, but a 30 oz. polymer frame, full-size 10mm is not really that bad to shoot at all, even with full power loads. The people who seem to freak out about how "powerful" 10mm loads feel are often people who shoot a lot of 9mm and not much else. I've seen this across multiple reviews of 10mm pistols - you can usually tell the reviewers that are accustomed to shooting more powerful calibers, and the people who don't.
@AhHereWeGo2 жыл бұрын
Well the M&P10 is a thing now, so there’s that.
@bsmithhammer2 жыл бұрын
@@AhHereWeGo And mine has been great so far.
@itsapittie2 жыл бұрын
@@bsmithhammer That's been my experience as well. Subjective experience of recoil has more to do with technique than with mass. I'd been shooting a 1911 for years before I knew that most people think of it as having hard recoil. It's not that I don't notice some firearms recoil more than others, it's just that with good technique I don't find it hard to manage.
@FoxtrotFleet2 жыл бұрын
@@bsmithhammer People tend to overlook that the older metal frame pistols had a higher bore axis, than the latest polymer frame designs so it's definitely not just about weight. I'm someone who likes both so I don't have a dog in the fight but I like to appreciate things for what they are.
@It-b-Blair2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I really like my combo of the g40 and the tnw asr in 10mm. Same mags, same ammo, reliable, and good for bush and self defense.
@Swissk31300BO2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat that combo
@makinmovesmathias6842 жыл бұрын
What's tnw asr?
@andrewcramer72142 жыл бұрын
i want everything tnw makes lol!
@AspenSavage2 жыл бұрын
@@makinmovesmathias684 tnw aero survival rifle. It's just a pcc
@SteveZ9192 жыл бұрын
Love my g40 and it shoots 40cal without any issues to!
@davidfernandes9202 жыл бұрын
The stoppages are most likely to be break in related. I had similar issues with my Smith and Wesson M&P10. It is now running smoothly and I love it.
@TheMcpvideo2 жыл бұрын
I think I like the M&P 10mm better
@lucashornbrook782 жыл бұрын
There should not be a break in period
@mattmarzula2 жыл бұрын
Break-in periods are such a bullshit myth and excuse. They apply to tight tolerance metal on metal pistols that are typically overpriced. Poly frames should run like a raped ape up a tree. Never had a break-in period or jam with my G40.
@esolo1142 жыл бұрын
It's probably because it's a sig. It has a break in period and then it breaks.
@kilroy5166 Жыл бұрын
@@lucashornbrook78 Lots of different guns have break in periods, including Shadow Systems.
@TheLifeofRon2 жыл бұрын
Well my father past away last year and he was the greatest gunsmith in the north west and taught me everything I know, I’m a weapons expert for the Government and I train our soldiers on all their weapons system, and it all stemmed from my father 🙏🏽. Knowing my dad he’s Rock his S&W 686 357mag or his Glock 17 or his beretta 96 with a few packs of Marlboros and his aerosmith CD 😆
@Borf-u6y2 жыл бұрын
For the 5.11 bags, my dad would have his loaded up with a stapler, hand loaded .45ACP and .458 Socom as his range bag. Mine would be used as an everyday backpack with my glock/sig mags, snacks and electronics as a sustainment bag.
@coachprimus2 жыл бұрын
I've been a huge 5.11 fan. I'm pretty sure they came out the year I graduated from high school in 2003. My older brother is a former LEO that started wearing 5.11 clothing and footwear back then and he was the one that introduced me to 5.11. My brother would always give our dad his old 5.11 boots and our dad wore them until he passed away two years ago. He had one pair that he wore all the time that was well over 15 years old. My dad thought it was the coolest thing to wear those boots, I think it had to deal with the pride he had to see that his son was following in his footsteps(Our dad was a former LEO). My brother has taken our father's passing very hard. So, I got the idea to start hiking more together with our families and honor his memories by teaching our kids how to live off the land, just like our father taught us. Having a great backpack is a huge part of what we do, so I know that two loaded-down 5.11 bags would last a lifetime, just like the old 5.11 boots our dad wore. Who knows, maybe we will be able to pass down two awesome packs to our children some day.
@tfbtv2 жыл бұрын
Jeremy, thanks for taking the time to share this story with us. Congratulations, the gang at 5.11 appreciated it too. The packs are yours, just email me at james@tfb.tv and I'll get them to you.
@ianalderson51332 жыл бұрын
5.11 where you at? We found your new spokes person
@coachprimus2 жыл бұрын
@@tfbtv I just emailed you, Thank you and 5.11!! I'm kinda speechless right now. I'm so humbled and grateful for what you do.
@forrestebert52762 жыл бұрын
Sig has been making 10mm in their P220 all state frame! I’d love to pickup a P320 in 10mm as I have the 357 Sig with the 40 barrel and also the 9mm conversion kit. Sig is good and their customer service is the best!
@r1pbuck2 жыл бұрын
I had a P220 in 10mm...it's a big heavy gun with a 5" barrel. I would have preferred a P220 with a standard length barrel. It was a fine shooter, but it didn't fit any of my Sig holsters and it became a safe queen I didn't really want to keep.
@forrestebert52762 жыл бұрын
@@r1pbuck You have to get the holster that goes on your thigh! It is quite comfortable and easy reach and aiming . They are heavy but oh how they are accurate in fact all my 220’s are very accurate!
@kevenlee68622 жыл бұрын
I love my 357 sig great round
@PBRstreetgang882 жыл бұрын
P220 all state insurance edition ?
@bobsmith-qu2oq2 жыл бұрын
Won't happen. It's a completely different FCU. All us early adopters just got bent over by sig.... .again.
@michaelsherman10182 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying my M&P 2.0 10mm with a green dot. No issues, shoots great and don't have to wait.
@KENAHIGHLANDER Жыл бұрын
How is the slide to frame fit on your M&P 2.0 10mm? Mine is loose.
@michaelsherman1018 Жыл бұрын
@@KENAHIGHLANDER My copy doesn't have a loose slide, but it did break (and really snapped) the screws holding the green dot and now the firearm is at S&W. Not sure what they are going to do.
@fugbug73722 жыл бұрын
I’m glad 10mm is making a comeback, would consider getting a 10mm if sig puts out a compact. Also would mind getting that backpack and use as a range bag
@ajk40192 жыл бұрын
I helped source a PTR 9ct, the mp5 clone, for my dad. For years when I was a kid he said he always wanted one, probably since he watched so much die hard. I even outfitted it with the collapsing brace and original plastic handguards. That MP5 would definitely go in the bag and my matching MP5K clone would definitely go in my match bag.
@AbstractPragmatism2 жыл бұрын
I think the closest comparison on the market is probably the M&P 2.0 10mm with the 4.6" barrel. Similar size and weight, same capacity, both come with optics cuts. I got one a few months back and it's been great, however most of my carry guns are Sigs, so I'll probably end up with one of these as well eventually.
@dktk41362 жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't like about it is you can't find any mags for it.
@AbstractPragmatism2 жыл бұрын
@@dktk4136 Agreed. Apparently the 45 mags work with 10mm, but there's no way I'm buying magazines that "kind of work" specifically for the wrong gun. I understand that the first batch needed to go with the guns themselves, but it's pretty silly that they can't pump out some stamped sheetmetal and bits of plastic that they've already made the tooling for.
@dktk41362 жыл бұрын
@@AbstractPragmatism it's why I went with G20. I love the optic cut coming with it but I don't buy a gun that I can't get mags for.
@AbstractPragmatism2 жыл бұрын
@@dktk4136 My take was that if I carry it, it'll be on a chest rig while hiking/hunting. If I have enough time to dump 31 rounds and change mags twice, I probably could've just casually walked away from the bear/moose at that point lol. It's still pretty dumb, though; I'm sure lots of people are interested in using it as a duty gun or for edc.
@dktk41362 жыл бұрын
@@AbstractPragmatism I like to have extra mags for the range and to cycle out use. If I just get one that's defective and can replace it now I only have two.
@travislangford14322 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I hope they give the 10mm the compensator treatment like on the P365 Spectre Comp, just without the Spectre fluff, aka TiN Gold trigger and laser engraved stippling. With the way Sig has been going lately I would give it 6 months and we’ll have some more options.
@bridgerduggan9152 жыл бұрын
Hoping for something similar and with an AGX/Icarus grip module option.
@soonerfrac46112 жыл бұрын
I’m fine with the Spectre fluff as an option. Laser engraved stippling sounds nice. A nice carry comp version is exactly what I want!!!
@Tacteyecool2 жыл бұрын
Rush 24 5.11 my dad would put Draco mini pistol snd a knee brace in it because he needs it sometimes feeding cows in the farm.
@haroldackett2502 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely going to have to look at this Sig as my all around side carry while out hunting! Love the adaptability of 10mm and S&W 40 to burn, as well as that awesome P320 versatility! BTW, probably to late but, would love to share some bags with my daughter, why well first were a generational military family. And she's a unique one...Special Forces! Go SIG!
@r6guymike532 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my P220 legion 10mm can’t wait to try this new P320. Great review 👍
@flightparamedic5052 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The p220 10mm legion is an awesome pistol!
@root19112 жыл бұрын
Great review, so looking forward to getting a hold of one! Because fathers day was mentioned, this reminds me of my dad popping my gun experience cherry with the classic double pull on his old 12 gauge double barrel! Though I only have daughters, I did the same with them! At least it was low wall brass. If we are selected for the bag give away, I'd carry my shorty 50 beowolf and my oldest girl would carry extra mags and her art supplies!
@JimHerrick2 жыл бұрын
Including my father, my son, my grandson and myself - we'll find quite the assortment of things to carry around with that awesome 5.11 bag! Of course, the first thing I'm bringing is that awesome X-Ten from Sig!!!
@Goldenwithaleash2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Sig expanding their 10mm line. It’s great to see the resurgence of the 10mm in the last 10 years or so. It really is a good cartridge. I use my G40 for hiking/backpacking/camping defense and someday I want to try it on TX hogs. My dad would likely put fly fishing or pheasant hunting gear in his 5.11 bag.
@JohnDoe-cq3ii2 жыл бұрын
I've been aching for a single stack 10mm glock for long distance backpacking
@Goldenwithaleash2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-cq3ii some models of 1911 or Sig 220 are single stack 10mm. Don’t know if any polymer framed single stack 10mm off the top of my head.
@JohnDoe-cq3ii2 жыл бұрын
@@Goldenwithaleash yeah I've seen colts 10mm 1911 and the p220 in 10mm, but the steal frames are heavy. I'm definitely looking for something as small/lightweight as possible and hoping for at least 5+1 capacity. Carrying anything for 300+ mile backpacking trips becomes a chore real fast
@Goldenwithaleash2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-cq3ii hmmmm… Buffalo Bore makes a +P “Outdoorsmen” load in 9mm and .45acp and some of those Lehigh Extreme Penetrators are wicked. When I go on day hikes with my in-laws (not gun people) and need something concealable, I’ll carry my Glock 40MOS loaded with Underwood Extreme Penetrator 9mm. Just an thought.
@AleisterCrowly22 жыл бұрын
Living and hog hunting here in Texas I can tell you 10mm has taken quite a few hogs without a problem.
@douglasbuck23592 жыл бұрын
Hey there, new subscriber here! I don't know how I'm just finding this channel, your production quality is top shelf. Also, I have become wary of other gun KZbinrs who seem to be cut from the same mold who: Present themselves as Ex "Special Operators" with requisite American Sniper/Zero Dark Thirty beards and ball caps, and most of these guys never served a day in their life! You are just a clean-cut, fit, and well-spoken guy who does all the research so we don't have to! I spent 23 years in the suck with 5 combat deployments and can tell you that Navy some Navy Seals are only allowed to have beards when they are actually downrange. No stateside beards allowed!
@brandonmaggard6882 жыл бұрын
More than likely, my dad would use it as his range/car bag. he is just getting into the whole firearms industry due to the happenings going on in the country. I have recommended 5.11 products to him before and he already has his eyes on this bag I believe. Thank you for the comprehensive review of the new sig as always man. Always a great time watching your content
@LostCityExpeditions2 жыл бұрын
Looks like Sig hit another home run with this! My dad likes to travel a lot, so he would likely use this bag for trips. He’ll be going on a mission trip soon as a medical professional to help others in need. I’m sure this bag would be very useful for that.
@NGMonocrom2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the 10mm was on life-support. All but dead.... Now it's one of the most popular calibers. Far more so then when it was introduced. Yes, the '90s are truly dead. *:'(*
@shainshartershwate74212 жыл бұрын
Yeah and you rarely see it on the shelves and we're about to go through another gun/ammo shortage so if you don't already own 10mm guns and ammo I'd stay away
@webviking2 жыл бұрын
Right on. The more we all read and studied the specs of 10mm pistols, and fired them, the more we realized it's the perfect self-defense pistol round.
@ChrisB_NC2 жыл бұрын
Those backpacks are fantastic. My son will no doubt use it to store the emotional baggage that comes with holding the flashlight for his dad. 😁 Jokes aside, this is amazing bit of kit and I’m sure we could both use it to its fullest potential.
@HighDesertAdventurer2 жыл бұрын
Got to hold one today at a sig dealer in my town. It's grip is fits so perfectly.
@Tazer1202 жыл бұрын
I've resisted the M&P 10mm waiting on Sig, glad I waited. Plus while this may not interest some people looks like this might be interchangeable with 45acp.
@andershilmo18662 жыл бұрын
It interests me.
@ryanhartley57372 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting on the 10mm for this exact reason. I have a 320 Compact in .45, been holding out for the 10mm conversion kit for a couple years. MORE exciting is that maybe now there will be some freaking support for the "large frame" (for lack of a better word) 320!
@robholland27222 жыл бұрын
Glad to see another firearm in the "right" caliber. I have carried a Grand Power P40 10mm since they came out and I don't know of any other 10mm that shoots as well. Would love to see a comparison video of the Sig 10mm against the GP P40L to see your thoughts.
@cecilhiggins99072 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this firearm. I’ve been waiting for some time for Sig to get this thing out. As far as the bag, my father has passed , however I’m a retired police officer and my son is a Deputy Sheriff. In my bag would be a laptop, extra Sig and S&W mags. My extra firearm, a carry pack with knife and extra clothing as needed. My son would have a laptop, field gear, extra mags for both pistol and rifle. Binocular and other day to day stuff.
@michaelbrown10152 жыл бұрын
Sig does make another 10mm pistol, but not a polymer one. They have 4 different versions fo the sig P220 in 10mm now that are absolutely BEAUTIFUL! would love to see a review on them.
@pitchandlimb Жыл бұрын
Ive been a big fan in the past of the 10mm in bren-10(not so much) and the in 92 of the G-20. I had 2 generations of the glock 20's. This is the second review of the x-10 ive watched and ive had the X-10 in my hands after owning and putting 18,000 rounds through my sig 320 X-5(non legion). It feels wonderful...
@leadonsteel2 жыл бұрын
That Sig looks absolutely amazing!! My dad is a locksmith, so I know for sure he would pack all his tools he uses when he’s out taking care of all his customers. The fact that he could also easily conceal his pistol in the pack would be a blessing for him!!
@christianong322 жыл бұрын
I finally broke down and got a “real” gun, according to my friends, which was a Sig P320 XCompact on Monday switching from Glock and of course it was well worth it. Totally a Sig fanboy now but I still can’t get rid of my Glock R. Lee Ermey t-shirt I’ve had for 10+ years.
@Jonah.the.moist.noodle2 жыл бұрын
Lol right? Everyone I talk to about getting a sig says "sorry. That's too rich for my blood." Until they shoot one, and then they understand why I am always hyping sig up as much as I do. My favorite is the P226, and people argue it is just "too heavy" and cumbersome. Yet the glock 17 I use for work feels almost no lighter or smaller in comparison minus the grip.
@christianong322 жыл бұрын
@@Jonah.the.moist.noodle Yeah, it definitely feels heavier but it is a good weight. Plus the ergonomics of it is far better. As far as price goes it was still under a $100 more for it then a Glock 19 through the law enforcement deal on both. Plus it came standard with night sights where Glock 19 that was in stock didn’t.
@DZ4295DBW2 жыл бұрын
I switched from a 509C MRD to a 92x RDO GR. Even have my RMR mounted to it for the time being..until I can get an LTT slide.
@Jonah.the.moist.noodle2 жыл бұрын
@@christianong32 lucky. A sig P226 is at a minimum of a $1200 here in alberta Canada. And that's for a stock base model one. Sig is one of the more gucci richy rich guns around here. But that's thanks to gun laws, and just that it isn't as well sought after as glock. Here
@kylebarrette14532 жыл бұрын
I’m interested to see a comparison between this P320, the Glock 20 and the new S&W 10mm M&P
@drunkenwolfman2 жыл бұрын
Great to see the support for this cailber from Sig. Now we just need a P365 in 10mm.
@sylverbullit71922 жыл бұрын
I'm not in the market for a 10mm, but your reviews are so F'ing good, honest, and entertaining, I had to watch the whole thing. This would be the 10mm I'd buy tho.
@d-unit-outdoors2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for a compact size! It’ll be the perfect hiking pistol.
@kalanipitmon78172 жыл бұрын
I edc the g20. Been wanting a 29 recently...but I could possibly choose a 320compact in 10mm over my glock
@HarryManback02 жыл бұрын
The G20 is already the perfect hiking gun.
@zyzzuschrist34102 жыл бұрын
@Jsouthwell7589 yeah and the S&W is not reliable
@cabeglasgow2 жыл бұрын
@@fishlips8336 the Walther PPQ is a great shower pistol lol.
@vic27962 жыл бұрын
@harry man back exactly why would you want a compact for hiking?? I don’t conceal my g20 when I’m hiking
@MrTrixzzzz2 жыл бұрын
That is a damn fine looking gun. Gonna have to get me one.
@a10sim2 жыл бұрын
Another great video review as usual. I’ve had the 10mm bug for a long time. Interestingly my G29 broke its factory recoil spring guide rod…only Glock in my collection that failed. I also love my G20 with a 6” Storm Lake barrel and Bo Mar target sights. Glad to see Sig market this new 10mm. Perhaps there’s another 10mm in my future. Thanks for your excellent review.
@DS..692 жыл бұрын
Mehn, you better delete your comment. How dare you speak the truth of Glock breaking anything to the cult masses. Lol
@ccgoa61452 жыл бұрын
I have to say Sig has won me over not because I wanted them too, they just keep making amazing guns. Every one I pick up fits me like a handshake and is amazingly accurate. Great channel and content that I stumbled on today. You just picked up another subscriber.
@omegagamer1112 жыл бұрын
Our department loves 5.11 products. Ever since they opened a store in Montgomery AL it’s made it so much easier to get your hands on their products. Dad needs a bad with a convenient concealed carry pouch. Love my rush 72 but need a smaller pack to match with him.
@abowens7772 жыл бұрын
Coming up with excuses to tell my wife right now.
@tonyromano62202 жыл бұрын
Lie
@juanzuniga59762 жыл бұрын
Just get it and tell her you always had it
@sammyg48062 жыл бұрын
Yep, justifying new gun purchases to my wife is one life’s greatest challenges.
@tfbtv2 жыл бұрын
Easy. Tell her that the scammers that are about to bombard these comments with "MESSAGE ME FOR FREE GUN!!!!!" are actually legit and you won it from a Nigerian Prince in the TFBTV comments.
@Allen-xx3ly2 жыл бұрын
10>9
@AMX862 жыл бұрын
looks real sweet. love the 10mm in my glock 40. looking forward to the SIG.
@richardoliver14682 жыл бұрын
Thank you this review.Leaving out the modularity rich features of the Sig, how does it stack up against the M&P 10mm. The other point to consider is the red dot options that S&W model fits. In my option those are major points to consider for those of us who a 40S&W in their collection
@toddheimann80202 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want to run anything other than a Romeo 2 or maybe an RMR on a 10mm, so other options that are less durable and I know won't hold up aren't important to me. Why would you exclude modularity? It's future-proofing the gun and is one of it's biggest advantages. The S&W is cheaper (usually is compared to Sig); I'm betting the Sig is better.
@bsmithhammer2 жыл бұрын
Can't say for sure until I get my hands on one, but my M&P 4.6" 10mm has been great so far, with a wide variety of ammo from 40 S&W to moderate target ammo, Sig JHPs and Underwood full-power hardcasts. I'm running a Holosun 507c X2 on it.
@IndieGamerMonkey2 жыл бұрын
@@bsmithhammer I'm actually running the EXACT same setup on my 4.6" 10mm. We're twinning lol. I also run a TLR7a on mine. Have you found any IWB holsters you like for yours?
@bsmithhammer2 жыл бұрын
@@IndieGamerMonkey Nice. I have only looked into OWB options so far. The other things I've done to mine is to swap out the recoil assembly for a steel guide rod and 20lb spring from Wolff, and I added an alloy optics plate/steel mounting screws from C&H Precision.
@WaterZer02 жыл бұрын
@@toddheimann8020 holosun not indestructible enough for you?
@karlchilders54202 жыл бұрын
I have the Glock 20C and let me tell you, it shoots straight and the recoil is very manageable. It's a great click/boom pistol and I carry it everywhere. I carry the pistol and 45 rounds whenever I am out of the house. That compensated barrel really does help with the muzzle flip and 2nd shot follow-up. I've never regretted carrying the 'big 10". I'm looking at the P320-XTEN now as another 10mm pistol to use as a carry weapon....
@The-BCC2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of this xten and m&p 10mm. Nobody seems to be doing a comparison with the s&w.
@MikeStJohn-du5ue2 жыл бұрын
Wow, as a Sig fan I love the new addition. Been looking for a 10 but the Glock just doesn't do it for me. This is great. As for the 5.11 by grandson and I shoot cowboy action and wild bunch. I can see us loading this bag up with all of the goodies needed for a days competition.
@cohokid69362 жыл бұрын
What don't you like about the Glock, just curious. I have a Glock 20 and it's a fantastic gun to shoot. It's a big gun, but I have big hands so it works great.
@MikeStJohn-du5ue2 жыл бұрын
@@cohokid6936 I have had Glocks, been issuesd Glocks and they just don't fit me, feel like a 2x4 in my hand.
@cohokid69362 жыл бұрын
@@MikeStJohn-du5ue I totally get that, they aren't terribly ergonomic.
@joestarke13572 жыл бұрын
Regarding the 5.11 bag, my dad would definitely load his up with about 15 pre-loaded 1911 mags because he cannot be bothered to reload mags while on the range. One pocket would likely hold the box of .357 sig ammo that he bought because his internet skills are lacking and probably just saw .357 and ordered it. Owns multiple .357 magnums but no .357 sig gun.
@majorburns36802 жыл бұрын
It would be really cool to see a comparison between the grip sizes of the G20, S&W, and this SIG
@raylandraybels94622 жыл бұрын
Can't forget the dark horse xd 10mm
@GonzalezEzekiel2 жыл бұрын
1:02 I was today years old that I learned of the Miami shooting back in 86’. I watched a 49min special here in KZbin & now I want this sig p320 10mm and a mini 14
@anthonybarker9123 Жыл бұрын
I've been carrying a G29SF since 2007. I didn't really want a Glock, but HK didn't make a subcompact in 10mm. Considering how much bullet performance has advanced even in the last 15 years, I'm looking at moving to 9mm for carrying most of the year and carrying the 10 during the winter (when heavy clothing tends to mess with HP performance). If Sig releases a subcompact in 10, I'll definitely be standing in line to get one.
@chrisgodby74722 жыл бұрын
My Dad passed in 2019, but he was a retired Marine (served in Vietnam and Desert Storm) and a pilot. In his bags he always carried sun glasses, flashlights (probably 3!), a pocket knife or two, over the counter meds, and snacks! Before, I always thought he packed too much, but I see how smart he was now. I know my brother (who is a father) and I could use these bags in our travels and be prepared like my Dad. Thank you for the opportunity.
@michaelchristenbury5522 жыл бұрын
Another home run from SIG, I would actually be interested in a compact version of this gun for backcountry Carry!
@HeronMarkedBlade-ef7zz2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this, loaded with some Underwood hardcast rounds.
@jackryan97102 жыл бұрын
This gun is a backcountry carry. Shaving a few oz’s isn’t worth the trade off of lower capacity, less controllability, and less velocity.
@pettifogger07122 жыл бұрын
I think recoil and controllability could be an issue in a sub-5in barrel when 10mm in involved LOL
@bigdickballistics2 жыл бұрын
100% on a chest rig would be awesome. I have a Glock 40 MOS and a 20 and there both way too big.
@michigunsanta86802 жыл бұрын
@@pettifogger0712 I seen alot of videos of that small Springfield 10mm with the 3.3” barrel and yes the recoil looks substantial! 😣😅
@RyanAVRX2 жыл бұрын
I was very surprised by the MSRP on the X-Ten. I was expecting a price tage of at least 1k. It seems Sig really knocked it out of the park with this one. Who knows, maybe Dad & I could carry this together in a matching set of 5.11 Rush 24 Backpacks in the near future? ;)
@libertylivesin17762 жыл бұрын
@brendan byrd Dude...you have no clue do you?
@RyanAVRX2 жыл бұрын
@@pineapple999100 ratio
@OFFICIALUND2 жыл бұрын
The first gen Sigs are cheaper because you’re their beta-tester. By the time they get it right, the prices are much higher. They usually have everything sorted out about 36 months after initial release.
@libertylivesin17762 жыл бұрын
@@pineapple999100 Obviously not.
@timgriswold41412 жыл бұрын
@@OFFICIALUND yeah, do your best not to drop it or smack it in the rear
@badbattleaxe5832 Жыл бұрын
I just got mine. I’m so thrilled. I have been waiting for a 10 mm P320 forever! 🎉
@rickadema35582 жыл бұрын
Sweet, This one just moved to the top of my “next pistol” list. Thanks for the review.
@nytramtehgreat95622 жыл бұрын
First, I'm actually pretty impressed at Sig's 10mm offering for its price point! I've been mulling over a Ruger, Colt Delta Elite, or a cheaper Rock Island for a hunting handgun. This presents another favorable option! As for what my Dad and I would pack in a 5.11? Hunting and camping gear! Obviously we'd have our spare mags and ammo - but all the essentials too! Toilet paper, trauma kits, food, and BUG SPRAY!
@stump35142 жыл бұрын
I have the rock island double stack 1911 in 10MM and it’s been fantastic for me, reliable for sure. The biggest problem is the weight, which is why I’m looking for a polymer option.
@nytramtehgreat95622 жыл бұрын
@@stump3514 thanks for the input! I'm actually pretty comfortable with heavier handguns. But the polymer might be able to handle conditioning a bit better. What do you make of your RIA'S reliability?
@stump35142 жыл бұрын
@@nytramtehgreat9562 it’s been good, I don’t have a ton of rounds through it (200-300) rounds but it hasn’t jammed on me once yet. It rolled down a step hill with me outside my holster for about 50 yards and lives in an extremely dusty environment. I make sure to clean it after every hunting trip I take it on because of the dust. The thing throws brass 10 yards or so on ejection.
@webviking2 жыл бұрын
Very well described and demonstrated. Thanks, buddy. I own many 10mm pistols, most of which have steel frames and weigh 40-45 oz. When I saw that the new Sig 10mm weighed only 33 oz., I was concerned about recoil discomfort and inaccuracy. Apparently, however, it feels good and performs well. I wish Sig had given it a steel frame, but I'll buy it and try it. Fully loaded, it would weigh 43 oz., which is a weight I prefer. Also, my gunsmith can install some weight in the grip.
@grafja2 жыл бұрын
Do we think Sig will ever make a 10mm steel-frame?
@TheDiameter2 жыл бұрын
@@grafja Dan Wesson likely will
@Scientist_Salarian2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a G20 for a long time, but I’m definitely looking forward to getting a 10mm that fits my had a little better. The G20 is like holding a brick with a trigger.
@stgeorgethepurist83112 жыл бұрын
do you have small hands?
@billpohlman8032 жыл бұрын
P01
@stgeorgethepurist83112 жыл бұрын
Btw I didn't intend as a pun I am really asking.
@aishefasani56352 жыл бұрын
Nah. I had mine stippled and it fits perfect. Stippling has been around for many years now. Cant use the brick excuse anymore...if you actually have one.
@webviking2 жыл бұрын
Right. I had the Glock G20, too. With a polymer frame and weight of only 30 oz., it was a nightmare to shoot, and I sold it. The new Sig P320-X10 is a step in the right direction, but it needs a steel frame or TXG tungsten-infused grip module to increase the weight to 43.5 oz.
@mlblover52682 жыл бұрын
511, sounds like a great bag. The things my dad typically carries when he goes out to hike, well, is just about everything he can stuff in there. First aid pack, fixed blade knife, fire starting essentials, water, water purification, snacks, a compact fishing rod and light tackle, an emergency blanket and tent...He's ready for just about anything which is smart if you ask me!
@CrossWolftheEnd2 жыл бұрын
For the 5.11 bags, my dad would use it as an all around bag; work, events and taking my niece everywhere. He's been carrying this small cheap sling everyday for 2 years and it goes everywhere with him. Dad is a DD 214 alumni, the guardian to my niece and so he'd be over the moon with this gift as this bag has more room and compartments for his outings! I would use this as a range bag as I'm not busy body like dear old dad. James, I'd been awaiting this review and as usual you dont disappoint! Thanks for always being so unbiased. Helps me with any of my purchases.
@jacktrout58072 жыл бұрын
I have the springfield xd with the 5.25 barrel. Very accurate . I have had some reliability issues with it tho. I have had 2 glock 20s absolutely no reliability issues but accuracy was so so. The tangfolios are probably both accurate and reliable but heavy. I'm interested in how this 10mm offering handles.
@weege5.452 жыл бұрын
If it's based on the Sig chassis system this will be awesome for be 3d printers.
@harvey_weenstain88572 жыл бұрын
CZ is stupid for not making an SP01 in 10
@adrianbartley81732 жыл бұрын
I love my tanfoglio but yes, it’s chunky
@danishraisham16972 жыл бұрын
@@harvey_weenstain8857 closest we got with that is the BRNO PSD. But that is made with 7.5 FK in mind
@harvey_weenstain88572 жыл бұрын
@@danishraisham1697 youre right.. and tanfolio is nice too! I just can't do thumb safeties :/ hammer fired steel framed 10mm with decocker would be 👌👌👌
@rcumbee562 жыл бұрын
I'd use the 5.11 backpack in my "Get Home Bag" and am considering the 10MM to include. Getting from work to home might entail some serious firepower!
@brianhoxworth38812 жыл бұрын
That full size pistol is the way to go for 10mm..outstanding! By the way, 511 makes the most comfortable boots I've ever put on my feet!
@bmstylee2 жыл бұрын
I like the boots they make but just too narrow for my foot.
@bmstylee2 жыл бұрын
I like the boots they make but just too narrow for my foot.
@brianhoxworth38812 жыл бұрын
I have regular with, they do run a bit on the smaller side. I recommend half to whole size larger. Also thin high quality socks.
@ericwhitford28272 жыл бұрын
Hell ya! Finally a Sig 10mm I can get behind! Love my X-Carry so I hope sig comes out with an X-Carry option in 10mm.
@alansmith98772 жыл бұрын
Rush 24 would be a great all around bag for camping, hiking, and bug out. It would awesome to have a couple of great bags to go with all the other 5.11 gear we already have!
@texankenobi2 жыл бұрын
Me and my Dad just bought a Glock 20 and 30, so being this comes out the day after I am a little salty. But I did get a nice Glock and so did my Dad. The only thing I can think of that is more cool than a 10mm pistol, is hanging out with your Dad or grandfather at the range.
@r1pbuck2 жыл бұрын
I love the Sig P- pistols but I have been resisting the 320 so far. I think this is going to tip me over the edge. I question the practice of _not_ cleaning and lubing a new gun before testing it. Seems to me that a clean gun eliminates the possible variable of dirt/grease etc. as it comes out of the box. I _always_ clean and lube a new gun before firing it.
@aleffel96682 жыл бұрын
I would never fight with a dirty gun if I don’t have to, so why would I keep a gun dirty in the first place? Just never made sense to me.
@jamescruse35442 жыл бұрын
A gun should be able to function just fine with a little dirt/ grease out of the box.
@tfbtv2 жыл бұрын
Because I'm a partner at a law firm and I frankly just don't have time to break down and clean every gun before we hit the range. We filmed 7 in one day on this shoot. I agree with you though, I should do that. I just don't/can't.
@aleffel96682 жыл бұрын
@@tfbtv there’s no problem with letting them get dirty. To each their own. I would just never do that. And in my opinion if I were to see someone have problems with an overly dirty gun (within reason) I wouldn’t count that against it
@4d4Spl2 жыл бұрын
There have been two new guns in the household lately. They did not arrive oiled. They're coated with an oil like preservative. Best clean that shit off.
@davelankford46092 жыл бұрын
I went the route of converting my Glock 30 to 45 Super, which is ballistically very similar to 10 mm, but allows me to shoot 45 ACP as a sub load. Have you ever looked at the 45 Super for bear defense? I bow hunt in serious bear country here in Idaho, and I carry mine with the Underwood 255 gr hard cast loads. I do like the Sig trigger, and the ergos.... Anyway, nice review.
@Wildwestwrangler2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why I went with an h&k45
@anderss68182 жыл бұрын
1. Is the X-Ten single action or double action? 2. Does it have any kind of safety?
@Alexanderockport2 жыл бұрын
My father, 72. Carried a fanny pack every day since I can remember! It was quite embarrassing as a child. I showed him a 5.11 Daily Deploy recently, and he loved it. The fanny pack literally got left in the store. I'm sure he'd love the Rush pack as well! I know I would.
@jacktrout58072 жыл бұрын
Would you not talk about fanny packs on a freaking post about 10mm? Show some respect.
@Alexanderockport2 жыл бұрын
@@jacktrout5807 it's a post about ditching one.
@richierich30532 жыл бұрын
The G29SF will always take the cake for me as a nice edc/woods carry piece with alot of power/capacity. This is peaking my interest more than any other full size 10mm that has come out lately love the clean lines of it I'll give it a bit of time though.
@AleisterCrowly22 жыл бұрын
I'm also going to wait a while. Because more then likely Sig will come out with the 320 X10 Legion in a year or two.
@Justobserving9291 Жыл бұрын
Glock 29SF is a great tool for the woods you got 11 rds of Underwood 140gr in an easy light package. Drop in the 15rd if you still have problems after the first 11 rds. Shoots just like a Glock 19 no need to train on different gun.
@bly42332 жыл бұрын
Excited to see a comparison to the M&P and 20SF! Looks like the beaver tail could be raised to reduce muzzle flip.
@bondmanjbd2 жыл бұрын
DON'T THINK HE LIKES SMITH. DIDN'T EVEN MENTION IT LOL
@Ispeedymg2 жыл бұрын
*Begins Sig video withe a glock ad* 😂
@Sweetness717752 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was hilarious.
@glennggeorge2 жыл бұрын
My son would have his new Rock Island 1911 that was his collage graduation present to himself and I would have my all time favorite Sig 226 Legion SAO. I know this is for fathers day but thank you to all that serve, have served and most importantly gave all with Memorial day coming up.
@gamerlogan13892 жыл бұрын
It would be the perfect bag to take my son who's 10 and just got his first gun to the range as well as outdoors .I'm excited my son finally came around helped build a few p80s and now wants to do 3 gun shooting. This bag would be perfect for father son outdoors hunting and range days
@killacoiler17072 жыл бұрын
I think that a full size grip with a compact size slide and barrel of 4" or even 3.8" would make fore an excellent carry option. I am not a snob when it comes to grip length, but depending on your concealed carry location preference having a 4.5 or longer muzzle can be rather uncomfortable; especially, if it's inside the waistband. I owned a Glock 29 for a while, and while I did not do bad on the range with it in slow fire drills really concentrating on how I was aiming, high speed defensive style drills were problematic due to my natural hold when aiming which I attribute to years of 1911 shooting. The significant difference in grip angle and how you have to hold a Glock made it very difficult for me to over come almost 20 years of 1911 point and shoot muscle memory. I ended up selling it because my spare time for range trips was scarce and I won't carry a pistol I am not competent with. I also did not care for the stock trigger at all, but did not see the point in modding a pistol I could not warm up to. I have since shot the new XD 10mms and the M&P 10mms and have to say they were a much better fit for me. The XD has a better trigger but I feel the M&P was better in the accuracy and lighter felt recoil departments; especially in the compact models. I will have to shoot the Sig and see how it compares to the full size versions of the XD and M&P to determine if the higher premium is worth it or not. I will say this though, if Canick or Beretta drop an SFX Elite or APX 10mm in carry size it's a wrap because they are two of my favorite polymer pistols for straight out of the box no mods needed firearms. If Beretta makes a 10 compact on the new and improved APX platform it may very well be the best 10mm poly-striker pistol in existence. Heck, I wouldn't care if they built it on the old APX platform. I really enjoyed that pistol even with its ray-gun looks.
@SniperKing0292 жыл бұрын
Looks amazing! It’s the 10mm I have been looking for. Do they still discharge if you drop them on concrete?
@Firebrand19672 жыл бұрын
10mm: My preferred carry caliber when I was doing armed security in during the late 1990s.
@at36192 жыл бұрын
Hell yea. I'll be picking up one of these eventually. As always James, thank you for the great content 👍
@hkshahidi27942 жыл бұрын
Tanfoglio makes a great polymer framed full size 10mm. Sweet shooter, very accurate, and not expensive. Also does not have the unsupported chamber of the glock!
@davidmilisock52002 жыл бұрын
This should be a good selling item for Sig, this was a decent review. I'd recommend that any 10MM ammo you're taking into big bear country be chronographed, 10MM ammo is notorious for being under loaded. The clubs current range master carries a 10MM, when loaded up properly it's a decent round, when it's not it's not very good. However 15 rounds of 10MM with max loads might be enough with an average Kodiak. Owning 9MM+P+, 357 SIG (full power), 45 Super, and having shot several 10MM handguns, I'd stick with 9MM+P or 357 Sig, for defense, faster and easier to hit with for more people. Having worked at regulated game farms and guiding in big bear country I'll stick to my 6 inch Model 29, 44 magnum, a 240 grain at 1,400 FPS is barely adequate as the bear get to 800+ pounds, then only because I carry a 450 magnum rifle. Unfortunately today you need a damn mortgage to buy a model 29.
@bruceglock72602 жыл бұрын
Them big silver tips can get on you in a hurry. Watched a video from a helicopter of one on a dead run across an open river bottom, scary awesome.
@davidmilisock52002 жыл бұрын
@@bruceglock7260 Yep!
@stevenschwarz63582 жыл бұрын
Love 5.11! I have a second son on the way this June. Our first lived 2 weeks with some serious complications, and we were heartbroken. Hoping this next little guy will want to pack up his shooting gear in a few years with daddy and hit the range! Might start him out with a Ruger mark 4.
@johnleon25942 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS
@stevenschwarz63582 жыл бұрын
@@johnleon2594 we were blessed to have any time with our first. Doctors said he would likely not make it to term. 2 weeks of life was more than I could've hoped for
@bacon812 жыл бұрын
Would love to see them do a 6” barrel model like the Glock model 40. Great Job Sig
@hopewilliams67052 жыл бұрын
Absolutely that's what I've been saying I know that the XD had a 5.5 in model... but I don't an XD
@wpymes2 жыл бұрын
Probably the Sig X10 is the best option if one is looking better stopping power caliber and an OR gun. I already own an X5 Legion and a Shadow 2. And after reviewing options for 10mm Auto and .45 ACP, i think the Sig X10 + Romeo 1 stands out. Great video!
@tellus962 жыл бұрын
my dad would load that bag up with a few beers, some Firestarter's that he over payed for at the campground store and a 11 in 1 screwdriver that he probably doesn't know how to use. great bag and a great review James
@N7mudkip2 жыл бұрын
For Father’s Day this year, I bought my dad his first center fire handgun, a S&W EZ 9mm. He’s a widowed veteran and I want him to be able to protect himself regardless of age. I’m sure we’d use those 5.11 bags at the range together or camping!
@whiskeyactual.2 жыл бұрын
This is an absolute must have for me. I've been needing a more sufficient camp/hike/hunting gun than my old Gen4 g22. If I can use the chassis to assemble a compact 9mm variant also, I just don't see any better value out there.
@PhilWitDa_452 жыл бұрын
U can grt some real hot 40 s&w...look at Buffalo bore and Underwood.. they will have u in 10mm power....and why not just keep the G22 and grt a G17 barrel?
@Frenchfrys172 жыл бұрын
There's virtually no difference in performance between 10mm and .40 S&W when it comes to terminal ballistics and effectiveness on target. Many 10mm on the market is even loaded to .40 S&W velocities, but bumping up the velocity doesn't really help much at all compared to the hottest .40 loads.
@TheJoker-bz2uz2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn, SIG has always been a great company but they've been killing it innovation wise since they came out with the p365
@jimayers61032 жыл бұрын
My daughter recently got her carry permit. The 5.11 rush would be awesome for her personal carry. She is a student and a hiker. I could see it filled with books, computer, hiking gear and her pet supplies for her dog. The second would go to my Dad whom also carries. He is always looking for a better way to organize his computer and camera supplies along with the multiple emergency equipment he carries. BTW really excited to get my hands on a Sig 320 X10. I'll get my own rush to pack it during my fishing and hunting trips.
@johncurry62602 жыл бұрын
I've been carrying a S&W 1006 since 1990, I love the gun it shoots well and is extremely accurate. I carried it at work regularly, although it was "Unauthorized" they weren't going through the door, we were. The only down side is the 9 round Magazine. 9+1 is okay but 15+ would be nicer to have. I carry it concealed and never have a problem with it. Now my state only currently allows 10 or less round magazines but once that changes I will seek out a higher capacity 10 MM, even if I continue to carry the 1006 the vast majority of the time.
@10mikemike892 жыл бұрын
What makes you think it's going to get better?
@johncurry62602 жыл бұрын
@@10mikemike89 They keep losing 2A cases at the Supreme court level.