The Silent Rise of Electric Planes

Soar into the Future of aviation with Kevin Noertker, the visionary CEO of Ampaire. This mini-documentary unveils the groundbreaking journey of crafting one of the world’s most advanced electric hybrid planes, and what's at stake to our planet if this industry cannot confront the challenges ahead.
Learn more about Ampaire here - www.ampaire.com/

[@savagecub]

The thing about a battery powered airplane is that it will never get any lighter as it flies along. That may be ok for short flights but long flights you really count on that increase in efficiency later in the flight.

[@spiral.stories]

Fair point. Although Hybrid planes are much lighter since the battery is significantly smaller. I think it will be able to fly across the US but not international any time soon.

[@tedmoss]

@@spiral.stories After all the ground transportation is electrified, there is no where else to go but up.

[@pbsanstead]

There are a bajillion short flights every single day. That’s a HUGE market.

[@savagecub]

@@pbsanstead Yes but the air traffic control system has a limited capacity. They would rather have to handle ONE 777 with 320 people than 36 electric airplanes with 10 people.

[@kevinnoertker4181]

Good point on battery weight and range, and definitely a challenge that fully electric faces. With hybrid electric, our overall energy efficiency enables extended range in spite of the battery weight. We demonstrated this on a 12 hour / 1400 mile flight. Aggregating more people into bigger planes to fewer destinations has been a long-time trend driven by the economics of operating airlines. We aim to reverse that by delivering solid economics on smaller planes, that can increase accessibility and convenience not enabled by the bigger planes.

[@少川靖男]

as long as lithium is the power source, no one should pursue this.

[@Neojhun]

That's absurd, lithium Ion makes alot of sense for all kind of short range aviation. We need more of these routes without the restrictive cost of burning fuel. Stuff like crossing bodies of water for 100 miles.

[@少川靖男]

@@Neojhun they removed lithium from DC10 some years ago due to fire.

[@少川靖男]

@@Neojhun I understand you vested interest but.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6OQqoFuiNqaja8si=TiTbrHha6vq7vFAa

[@kevinnoertker4181]

The industry and FAA is working hard to ensure the safety of lithium ion batteries. www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/design_approvals/dah/lithium_batteries

[@MrAmmo]

Batteries do not have the energy density to scale this to any useful degree..

[@hanswallner2188]

25% of worldwide scheduled flights are below 250 miles, and the short flights are an environmental disaster as taxiing and descent burns a lot of fuel... not so with electric planes, they are taxiing with 2 to 5 percent power (not 50 like a gas turbine) and are regenerating energy on descent.

[@CBe-ot8vu]

There is a problem when you scale up. It requires exponentially more energy the bigger you go

[@spiral.stories]

That's true, I have no clue how they plan on making it work for the 50 seat plus.

[@herzogsbuick]

the guy talks like his cofounder was the first one to come up with the idea of electrifying planes. this doesn't get me excited, it pisses me off.

[@pbsanstead]

He just said most people have never heard of it.

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

Aviation Fantasyland. Mostly BS. Nothing wrong with electric engines. Heavy Batteries as an energy source, not happening. Physics.

[@FRMaverick6]

Some mention the fact that fueled A/C get lighter during the flights, massively increasing their overall performances. One thing to add to that is that it also allows the A/C, being lighter, to land on shorter runways, or runways under degraded weather conditions. And it's the same for take off: if your aircraft is too heavy to take off on a given runway under the current weather conditions, you can reduce the amount of fuel you take. An electric aircraft will always be the same weight, meaning it will have to be designed for worst case scenario in regards to runway planned for take off / landing, and weather conditions. Makes it very difficult to optimise the design

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

IPCC climate data reminds me of an outhouse at a 3 day rock concert. Crap study piled on crap study. Each crap study relies on previous crap study findings and integrity of data.

[@tonylam9548]

You get great marks for being politically correct, but poor being practical and accurate. First of all, carbon is a gas of life and we need more in the air. If you are willing to sacrifice enough performance , anything goes. You can even have a coal boiler powering a prop and make it fly. Lithium based tech is not even good enough for cars , never mind airplanes , and I hate to have on catch fire in the air. The gov infiltrated by many of the climate religion , forced a sales spike with grants and rebates, and now even that is not working. Never mind electric, if some of these guy found out the real life cycle cost of hybrids, they avoid it like the plaque.

[@RonieYamoyam]

Single or dual electric planes has a market. flight schools around the world are prospect customers.

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

These people are Idealogues rationalizing their propaganda, not visionaries.

[@angeliclight-h8h]

I hope we will fly with electric planes air fares are so expensive so many people do nothave the type of money to go on vacations let people have a chance to travel with a lower fares everybody deserves a vacation let the poor people have a chance to travel too i hope it will happen god bless !!

[@ronniebyron3200]

Why not a hybrid system with a smaller engine and generator instead of big batteries

[@jpmeyer4159]

so its not an electric plane... It has an engine.... The somewhat silent rise of Hybrid Panes. There fixed it for you.

[@spiral.stories]

Haha, good point.

[@DownTheRabbit-Hole]

Please emit more CO2, my pot plants love it!

[@charleswesley9907]

Those planes would be very heavy and a fire hazard and be charged by Oil or coal.

[@hanswallner2188]

Hard to beat to put so much crap in one sentence. Everything you wrote is wrong.

[@Qp0int]

You strike me as Mormon

[@angusmclennan8747]

stuoidity at its best

[@Shorkshire]

Hell yea, I love to see innovators and thinkers doing their thing. Keep it up!

[@spiral.stories]

Thank you for watching, and yes, this is incredible to witness.

[@williamwaits]

Never happen

[@mayaefrat3732]

Wow!!

[@scolee6408]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@soaringeagle123321]

Keep pushing what's possible! Innovators like you change the world... God bless you!

[@spiral.stories]

Thank you for your support man!

[@scottboelke4391]

You say aviation is 3% of global CO2 emissions. How much would it be if aviation was electric? Why won't you say that? How much is a battery replacement? Electric cars are useless on the used market because the battery replacement is outrageous. How long to charge 500 miles of range in a 4 passenger plane? What if more than one plane needs charged?

[@spiral.stories]

It’s a good point, if the way you supply the lithium and electricity is dirty then none of this matters.

[@robertthegrape2192]

Dude, are you for real?

[@spiral.stories]

I am indeed

[@BryanC-h1j]

I guess all planes will be required to have a ballistic chute just like the SR22 Cirrus. Hmm… wonder how big the chute needs to be for a Dreamliner or an A 380?

[@tedmoss]

I've been flying electric planes for years now, they are about 7 Lbs and with a wingspan of 8 feet. But one guy does have a full size R/C one at our field. It looks like a Pterodactyl.

[@John-nc4bl]

Thanks for your video. A Caravan is a great aircraft even with the PT6 engine. A side issue. What are the advantages of an e-drone over an e-helicopter-? I see e-drones as being cumbersome with support beams for propellers spreading out like antlers on a deere.

[@kirbygriffin]

Slow, heavy with only a play motor in front with only a ic pusher to get to a port

[@Ozgrade3]

Electric aircraft will never be more than an oddity.....at least in our lifetime.

[@spiral.stories]

It’ll take time for sure. A long battle ahead.

[@tvm73827]

What is the future of electric planes with fuel cells as the power source instead of Li? I’m particularly referring to H2 fuel cell powered with Green H2 derived from wind or solar power.

[@Neojhun]

The amount of H2 fuel distribution for that is not possible. Electricity is way easier. Moving and storing H2 in large quantities is too difficult of a problem.

[@tedmoss]

That is truly an impossible dream.

[@spiral.stories]

Hydrogen has a massive mass so it would be tough to store in planes, however I know many startups that are currently working on this.

[@tvm73827]

@@spiral.stories The calorific value/heat value/energy density of H2 is 140 MJ/Kg vs 45MJ/Kg for jet fuel. By comparison Li-ion battery is 0.5MJ/kg (i.e, 300x lesser). US is very negative about anything other than Li because of the intellectual capture of Elon Musk. Germany and Japan, and less influential countries like India, however are less constrained and more reliant on facts and science. So they are conducting extensive trials. Airbus for one is betting heavily on H2.

[@hawkdsl]

EV planes. That's got to be up there on the moronic list.

[@retireorbust]

I like the concept of a ship operating like a Chevy Volt. Have a petrol fuel onboard for a generator to keep the battery pack charged and it won't need to be aviation fuel. Electric motors don't stall and that's one of its best features. Exciting stuff.

[@spiral.stories]

Yeah, this could be great as another way to fly. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!

[@retireorbust]

Think structural battery. Flying from the get go 25% of the weight of the fuel to get to London and having the range to get there.

[@Neojhun]

That's called a SERIES Hybrid.

[@John-nc4bl]

What the heck is petrol fuel. Call it gas or gasoline.

[@retireorbust]

@@John-nc4bl you understand fool