The Sing Movies are AWFUL

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Out of all the Illumination Movies I hear about, whether it be Despicable Me, Minions, The Lorax, or Secret Life of Pets, the one I tend to hear the most praise towards is the Sing Franchise; Sing and Sing 2, so I was left wondering... Are The Sing Movies Any Good?
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4:02 Sing
15:34 Sing 2
24:43 Conclusion
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[@BradleeTheNerd]

Go off oomfie

[@jacomaniaassuperdriveminion]

I hope John Lewis doesn’t see this video.

[@cuppaal]

The character designs and style are the legs for that game i swear.

[@harrypotteryescaillouno45]

There's one problem you forgot.

[@CC1.]

No lol

[@Duck274]

Sing 1 4/10 Sing 2 5/10 Taron Egerton singing Gorilla 10/10 Brian Griffin Mouse 15/10

[@CometX-ing]

Furry bait wolf girl 69/10

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

Singing Tori Kelly Elephant: 20/10

[@charmandyorton006]

@@FormalFilmsProductions Tori Kelly’s Black -Dad- Grandpa Elephant turning 70: 70/10

[@Imperviousdragon]

@@CometX-ing wolf girl? Say the name right dude and her name is literally porsha Crystal but overall the movie is a cash grab and all their movies are but it's still good and amazing

[@coreythepeanut]

@@Imperviousdragon dude shush

[@cold_soup_]

sing 1 is boring as hell but the seth macfarlane mouse is such a funny character to me. like, every other character is meant to be super likable and relatable, but then you have this character who's just an unapologetic asshole to everyone around him. he doesn't even have like a redemption arc, he just indirectly causes the theater to be destroyed, doesn't help fix it unlike everyone else, shows up at the end, delivers the best performance in the movie, then fucking dies

[@elnaoya9274]

What a chad

[@CartoDarko]

definitely not best performance but yeah it's so weird lmao I actually hate him

[@kylegonzales9576]

he really did do it his way

[@darthmaul8278]

I love how the best character is the one they are trying to make you hate

[@kensstudio0806]

Literally the only character that i didn't cringed when singing a licensed or an existing song... Johnny is close but still cringed a little bit... i kinda wished that the Sing movies has original songs rather than doing a cover so it's less cringe

[@hickorydaisy4117]

“It’s just a kids movie” is a terrible excuse because kids are impressionable and therefore we should be harsher on childrens media, not easier.

[@Assimandeli]

This. These people are indirectly saying "It's shit and I have no problem showing my kids shit." I wonder how many of those "it's just a kids movie" people have children of their own. I hope that actual parents don't think that way and instead try to show their children something that doesn't turn them into mouth breathing idiots.

[@KaiKrimson56]

Someone: It's just a kid's movie. Me: So is Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Iron Giant, Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker, and the Goofy Movies and those tell stories adults and children can enjoy.

[@sarahokotcha4076]

this is so dramatic and a weird comment. If it was a children's movie spreading bad messages or glorifying racism that's different but the criticisms are that the movie was too uplifting , predictable and cookie cutter, so this comment makes zero sense. As long as the movie has a good message its a good children's movie, having amazing philosophical storylines, does not make a children's movie good

[@hickorydaisy4117]

@@sarahokotcha4076 I’m afraid I don’t understand your argument

[@sarahokotcha4076]

@@hickorydaisy4117 why are you saying “it’s a bad childrens movie is not an excuse because children are impressionable, implying that the SING franchise is doing something bad to children or causing them harm in some way

[@rexcelsior5415]

The “My Way” and “I’m Still Standing” scenes are the only things I liked from Sing. The covers are legitimately good. I don’t remember his name but the Gorilla’s VA was so good at singing an Elton Jon song, to the point that he played Elton himself in Rocketman, and Seth can really sing good. His cover of My Way and just the whole mouse character in general were great. But that’s it, that’s all that was good in the movie.

[@Firestorm422]

Taron Edgarton

[@pennysanchez7656]

The Could’ve Been Me cover in Sing 2 is a close second.

[@RoseQuartz692]

@@Firestorm422 is Taron Egerton

[@Overheated521]

Exactly

[@emmahenrysoprano1253]

Full stop agree. I wouldn't even mind this concept if they pulled together the entire cast of singers like them. It might be a fun and unique way to share songs to a younger audience. But instead we got like ScarJo singing with auto tune...

[@_Exalted_]

I hate that people defend bad movies for “just being a kids movie” but then treat another kids movie like it’s the greatest thing to ever exist without acknowledging that most kids movies are terrible

[@terryrex7419]

What kind of kid movies are you talking about?

[@theletterm1787]

@@terryrex7419 the lazy ones that don't put in any effort to make an actually good film because "kids are stupid and don't care"

[@FamiliarlyFrigid]

But I feel like people judge kid's movies out of context and often to an adult's standards of humor and story, when that simply isn't the movie's purpose. Maybe you don't like them because they're not made for you. Kids like dumb stuff. Kid's movies are going to cater to that, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's fine to not like whatever movies you want, but remember that if it's entertaining to kids, it's succeeding at its purpose (however low that bar to success may be)

[@blackberrycheese3695]

Not a fan of kids movies,huh? Though, I don't think I've come across people like that.

[@FamiliarlyFrigid]

@@thekitkatlizard8661 I also feel like expecting any “good” kid’s movie to also appeal to an adult audience is asking for too much. IMO only the best of the best movies land with every age range. I like a lot of kid’s movies, but as an adult, I go into them knowing they’re aiming for a child’s sense of humor. I like a lot of them for being dumb, silly fun.

[@BugsyFoga]

To this day for the last 6 years, i’m still wondering what the heck happened to Mike the Seth Mcfarlane Mouse

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

He likely got eaten by the Gangster Bears

[@thatoneguy1968]

Whatever you do, do not look up what happen to Mike the Mouse from sing. Worst mistake I’ve ever made.

[@BugsyFoga]

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 That’d be messed up though.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

@@BugsyFoga or He got the Milk and went back to Stuart Little

[@Unremarkable6969]

The director has stated Mike McFarlane gets gang-banged by the bears.

[@doodlesaurusrex2958]

I really hate the "it's just a kids movie" argument. So your telling me that I got to grow up in the Disney Renaissance with movies like The Lion King but my son gets movies like Sing 1 & 2 because it's just a kids movie? Give the next generation of filmakers and storytellers something to work with!

[@Cherushi_i]

This exactly. Something being made for kids doesn't mean that it can't tell a compelling narrative, and yet all the big studios nowadays use "for kids" as an excuse to copy and paste the same bullshit tropey stories.

[@smokee777]

its just a kids movie

[@dylanpickle7292]

Sing is a good movie tho

[@mtj8870]

The "its just a kids movie" excuse was invented by "animation is for everyone" people once ppl actually started watching animation and crtiticizing it.

[@smokee777]

@@mtj8870 its just for kids tho

[@PSDRProductions]

The mouse moments: 8:35 - Introduction 10:40 - Seth McFunnymanFarlane 22:24 - Sing 2

[@Maddog12123]

🐭

[@JustCallMeEevee]

🐭

[@Zickeyo]

🐭

[@evansellers5205]

🐭

[@dorothyallspice1862]

🐭

[@spicynoodles2742]

Literally all Judy's message from Zootopia is body positive, they told her she couldn't be a police officer because she's too small, and she passed the training, plus she faced a freaking polar bear, and that person ignores it because, conventionally attractive" seriously ? Also F for Mike.

[@DantesGrill]

Wasn't there also a really angry article about the Shakira gazelle being "too hot"? Zootropolis brought up some really weird, published, complaints about sexy animals.

[@yuukokagami]

@@DantesGrill Funny that happened given people have been making sexy animals since the 70s or even earlier. :3

[@DantesGrill]

@@yuukokagami I guess we just have more fat "journalists" nowadays

[@spicynoodles2742]

@@DantesGrill Let's not forget the sexy tigers that danced with her and their mini shorts XD I remember so many videos saying that that would make them furries

[@jocelynecupcake]

How is Zootopia body postivity? show a rabbit with a big **s

[@Xploshi]

me and my partner initially bonding over our shared hatred for minions is the only good thing illumination has ever done for me

[@channelhasbeenmoved639]

Omg it's you!

[@apples4911]

YOOO ITS HER

[@wiltonginman6550]

Hey if it isn’t the gal that makes cursed vhs videos! How ya doin Xploshi?

[@BBWahoo]

did your partner get gangraped like Mike the mouse? xD

[@takeshitatnall5496]

*I HATE THE MINIONS I HATE THE MINIONS* _passionate kissing starts_

[@dollop_head]

You know, my favorite part of Sing 2 was when the wolf boss almost murdered Moon. It was mostly the only time I actually cared what was happening bc Moon looked absolutely terrified, the one time I felt real emotion from the movie.

[@Steele_OConnell]

I just found out that the character model for the dog girl in sing 2 and gru's wife from despicable me 2 are exactly the same. They even were the same dress. Illumination recycling models to save that dollar.

[@quintenrobinson4181]

That’s the same thing with Gru and Crystal. They look like they have the EXACT same body.

[@ThePapaja1996]

Like disney made in the 70 and 80

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

The Movies can be summarized like this: “OH I know this song”

[@eyeconqueror1185]

I know what that is!

[@decidueyesrandm5526]

Leo pointing meme describes it perfectly

[@justarandomyoutubeuser5074]

bruh were the hell my XAVLEGBMAOFFFASSSSITIMIWOAMNDUTROABCWAPWAEIIPPOHFFFX song at

[@carsonthompson4260]

You see, when listening to the Sing soundtrack, if you turn that brain on for just a second, you quickly realize: “Wait, can’t I just listen to this, but sung by the original artist?”

[@chadschmaltz9790]

I do think the chameleon secretary has a clever character design. She has a false eye so she is often looking in 2 different directions, which is a neat way to depict a defining characteristic of chameleons. (Their eyes move independently of each other to help spot prey)

[@Imperviousdragon]

Not going to lie but sing movies are better then the minions and they do a good job

It was to simultaniously look for prey and watch where they are going, right?

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Forgive the correction but the secretary was actually an Iguana.

[@bababababababa6124]

@@Imperviousdragon that’s like saying “getting stabbed is b better than getting shot” both terrible experiences but you will obviously pick the lesser of the two In other words you’re right Sing is better than Minions but Sing 1&2 are also still goddamn awful

[@Imperviousdragon]

@@bababababababa6124 Well are they awful or is it your own opinion and those are 2 different things you know and I personally think sing 1&2 are pretty good and not as bad but illumination needs to add more effort and time and story into their movies a lot more but overall it entertains the children and rarely us

[@Spectra651]

"I'm tired of giving [their movies] a pass because one of them comes out and isn't as bad as everyone thought it would be." It seems Illumination's entire philosophy can essentially be boiled down to: Set the bar so low that people will be delighted when you accidentally stumble over it.

[@cdangelo1843]

Not just delighted, they will endlessly praise you

[@arthurpietrogarcia1057]

Gotta love how Jown Lewis was hate-mailing you before you actually said the movies were bad.

[@sberky98]

JOHN LEWIS MY BELOVED

[@the_dave_026]

Sing apparently is part of the reason why Taron Edgerton got the role to play Elton John in Rocketman and that's the one good thing to come from that movie

[@Imperviousdragon]

It's a good thing 😌

[@kensukefan47]

Rocketman was extremely boring

[@cowboybaebe5420]

@@kensukefan47 it's okay to be wrong

[@munromister777]

I was gonna come down here and mention this. His cover of that Elton John song, along with him bonding with Elton on the set of Kingsman, is what got him the role, and that definitely makes Sing worth it in my book. Rocketman was an amazing movie, and I wish it was acknowledged more. I'm a bit frustrated with Bohemian Rhapsody, since it was an ok biopic that came out and got so much praise, and I feel like if it hadn't come out the year before Rocketman, Rocketman would have gotten more attention and awards.

[@kensukefan47]

@@cowboybaebe5420 I fell asleep watching it

[@mupumupu2842]

I respect the restraint you had when you didn't mention that the main guy in HOP was Tom in the sonic movie.

[@MidCentury43]

Corny Collins really went downhill after his show ended

[@pizzaman3147]

Corn

[@MidCentury43]

@@pizzaman3147 y Collins, mid-century celeb extraordinaire

[@charmandyorton006]

DONUT LORD!

[@decidueyesrandm5526]

@@charmandyorton006 you mean if it's cropped Nut lord

[@dog7146]

Literally the only good scene in this movie is the Gorilla singing "i still standing" that shit just hits hard

[@HORRORINFINITE]

Not true the movie was great

[@birbfactss]

20:32 I had to make sure this was real. I hadn't even seen the movie and despite Mark saying that this was a real line, I was thinking 'no way they actually put that line in the movie'. So, I went and checked the script online, and lo and behold, I found it. Not only that, but just one line above, the ice cream elephant calls the sing elephant (whose name I forgot and don't care enough about to look up) 'Your Majesty'. *I am not joking.* Like, I can't tell whether or not this is supposed to be a joke about simps, or if someone in the screenwriting group was _really_ into the elephant and just masked his attraction by creating another elephant character and having him say this.

[@charmandyorton006]

Oh, I loved that scene from Batwoman

[@fnafworld3878]

WHO WROTE THIS

[@rmn070]

@@fnafworld3878 George Lucas 😂

[@The0320Angela]

Good grief, no wonder why they never flesh out Johnny and Meena's relationship into an interspecies romance. Also Illumination is playing too safe. 😤👎 It reminds of PPG remake back in 2016 where one screenwriter self-inserted himself as Jared Shapiro having a crush on Blossom. Sounds more creepy in canon to be honest.

[@creefcreef8622]

Best line in the movie honestly

[@RandomUser8P]

I had always assumed Mike the Mouse was caught by the bear mafia and died, probably just by getting eaten, but yeah, uh…apparently it’s far worse than I imagined

[@Imperviousdragon]

That's wrong dude and it's clearly fake information and he's actually unknown

[@Treeeee2008]

@@Imperviousdragon so you're telling me that he actually lived? If so then I hope he comes back for Sing 3: we already ran out of ideas a long time ago!

[@graphitetailgrace3870]

Don't fuck with the mafia. Even if the mafia is sentient bears. ESPECIALLY if the mafia is sentient bears.

[@Imperviousdragon]

@@Treeeee2008 I'm not saying he's alive actually but unknown and don't get me wrong and even his status says his girlfriend (Nancy) is alive and he could be alive or dead and it's unknown and it will stay like that unless the voice actor or director confirmed he's dead

[@carsonthompson4260]

@@Imperviousdragon bro why are you so defensive over Pleasant Vocal Vibrations The Second

[@miserirken]

i like how they were all "body positivity yas" in Sing, and then Sing 2 introduced several generic good looking female characters (Bobcat girl, wolf girl, dog girl), they are literally furbait.

[@Imperviousdragon]

Not fur bait but cash grab and they used their designs and put them skinny but cute or hot because if they were thicker 😏 then you know exactly what's going to happen in twitter and it's literally going to blow up crazy 🎉 Please just say the names right and it's kinda disrespectful(jk lol) Wolf girl: porsha Crystal (Not a bob cat but a lynx cat) Lynx girl: Nooshy Dog girl: Suki Lane

[@radicool8328]

@@Imperviousdragon holy fuck what the hell are you on about my dude

[@peepawfart]

The lynx girls design actually makes me mad tbh. I HATE the look of her face. It's hideous

[@Imperviousdragon]

@@peepawfart nah and it's kinda not bad to be honest and yeah everybody has their own opinion and it's kinda cute a bit when she gets happy when she sees Johnny's dad

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Not me. But I guess rouge and the works of Eric w schwartz just raises my furbait standards too high

[@NeedlessExposition]

I liked Mike’s story the most because he actually had a story that could stand on its own and actually be more interesting than the movie itself. Meena was my least favorite character because she came across as overhyped and ridiculously shy. Are we supposed to believe that she’s the best singer who rallies everyone together to build the theater back up when she spent most of the movie throwing a pity party that Buster enabled?

[@M4t_P4tGT]

I’ve always hated Meena. I’m glad someone else shares this opinion too.

[@Nintendotron64]

You kinda hit the nail on the head as to why Illumination films are difficult to talk about. I watched Sing in theaters myself and while it was far from anything I would consider good, it also wasn't that bad either. Like, I didn't feel like my money was wasted or that I was losing braincells; it was just...exactly what I expected it to be. And that makes it hard to talk about because I can't in good conscience recommend AGAINST the film. It's not like anyone's life will be worse for having seen it, and frankly, it's just not my place to steer people away from a movie that I personally dislike but isn't doing anything all that terrible. That would be...ethically questionable to say the least. All I can really do is point people toward better films and hope to God they actually find them appealing.

[@lockerbuddy2039]

Man, if the movie was just about Johnny (gorilla guy), Mouse guy (mouse guy) and Buster Moon (not the mouse guy/gorilla guy), it'd be SO much more bearable. All three's criminal related stories could be woven together so nicely. That'd be a very neat story. Also that "Judy Hops" thing was the most sus story I've heard from a """journalist""".

[@drypenny3561]

I can agrre with you but i think ash (porcupine girl) can also stay with the other characters you mentioned.

[@nickrustyson8124]

Hen "Bearable"

[@nickrustyson8124]

@@drypenny3561 I mean you do need a straight man in any cast of weirdos, so having a moral straight man isn't too out of the question

[@Yea___]

Mouse Stewie (Mouse Stewie)

[@BonBonthe2nd]

Honestly, the worst part about this movie is how the KOALA named BUSTER doesn't have an Australian accent.

[@hamishstewart5324]

Not to mention the Scottish Highland Cow in the sequel that doesn’t have a Scottish accent.

[@robertcortez4956]

Probably because they couldn't afford Hugh Jackman.

[@simonj3413]

@@hamishstewart5324 according to official sources, he’s actually a yak

[@hamishstewart5324]

@@simonj3413 I did see that, but I mainly thought he was a highland cow due to the colour of his hair which I thought matched theirs better than a yak’s.

[@boomerangmonkey8263]

I like to think it's because he was raised in Not Australia-Land.

[@Hadeshy]

"Judy from Zootopia is more conventianally attrative to human" Yeah... But you know what Judy's design does that none of the characters from Sing does? TELL ME WHO SHE IS. On another subject. Mike last being seen with a bear behind him, and then not even being mentioned in the second movie makes for a really good pun. Cause he's a mouse.

[@apricotluma]

When he said people were praising Sing 2 over the first, I almost did a double take. All I've heard was the second one was WORSE than the first.

[@TheSuperMarioBrosMovieFan2003]

No it’s not! It’s way better than the first movie!

[@gerald7908]

Glad to see LS Mark is an enjoyer of "Biggering"

[@Chkprofilename]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3-QgqxqpLSgppo Finally its here .

[@BBWahoo]

NI-

[@theflickchick9850]

I listen to that song often so I'm glad to see the love.

[@redisGabe]

@@luckylol look at who watched the video

[@jil2312]

@@luckylol did u even pay attention to the video we know

[@DonkeyBoyVids]

I think a movie SPECIFICALLY about Seth MacFarlane's mouse would've been great, a lounge singer mouse who got tied into Mafia (maybe a cat Mafia) dealings and owes them money would be such an interesting character

[@rmn070]

I was thinking the same thing

[@hittingyouoverthehead]

I felt like Sing was too unfocussed. If they had chosen ANY of those characters to do a solo movie on, it would have been better. Sure, it would maybe not have been as much of a commercial success but rooting for ONE protagonist and watch them succeed at least gives more satisfaction than watching 7 of them thrown at you in the hopes that you identify with one of them. At best, it would feel unfocussed and at worst, you see right through the facade of a movie and see it for what it is - just the minimum effort, safe bet production with the audacity to call itself "entertainment" or "art"

[@tiktok-mc2nq]

That sounds like a cool idea

[@dorothyallspice1862]

I would loooove to see that!

[@quadeong7453]

What really bugged me about the first Sing movie was that Ash's whole story arc was supposed to be how she tries move on from her deadbeat and controlling boyfriend, but has Buster completely change her performance and take control of everything.

[@adamsayer11]

And then in the end she does her own thing and shows how good she is

[@HORRORINFINITE]

Yeah but she does make her own thing so I don’t know what your talking about

[@donaldduck5358]

​@@HORRORINFINITEThat's. That's how she got the gig in the first place.. Being controlled.. Jesus Christ man open your eyes.

[@quite_contrary_9956]

Honestly the only thing I liked about sing 2 was that the main antagonist literally threatens to kill buster moon and ATTEMPTS TO MURDER HIM TWICE ?? 😭 it caught me so off-guard because I was not expecting life-or-death stakes in sing 2

[@DrachonaTheWolf]

"Look, I'm just saying that Judy Hopps is conventionally attractive to humans." - not a furry

[@THE_EDGEDAY_WATCHER]

14:33 😂 Congrats animator. 🎉 Now, your character will appear as a main for Furry Disney Deviantart. Lmfao🤣

[@Slithery]

The fact that people love these movies baffles me, fair enough liking it but some go crazy praising it. It’s the epitome of Illumination’s business strategy, they feel soulless.

[@goGothitaLOL]

*like

[@Slithery]

@@goGothitaLOL actually no I meant to type love, I literally said later fair enough liking it but I meant I didn’t understand loving

[@andreafraustoz]

agree at least Koati has hearty and decent excuse to exist as inspiration for future ecologist/ zoologist

[@snakecake-mw7vw]

being fair, Johnny nailing Elton John, was pretty awesome, i can understand, that scene is a masterpiece by itself, he and Mike practically carried the movie

[@plaidhatter1674]

Honestly, besides despicable me 1 and 2, these are Illumination's best movies, which is a VERY LOW BAR TO CLEAR. They are fine movies, but they really do lack soul.

[@dr.papersalt4753]

"holy crap it's the mouse from sing!, I recognize your voice from anywhere!"- Peter Griffin S17 Ep16

[@teffy4345]

I am so grateful for this review. For the longest time I thought I was the only one thinking “I don’t get it” after seeing glowing reviews of the franchise

[@ShrumpDump]

Sing’s whole plot boils down to: “How to make a movie by using your car radio”

[@littlemau1360]

Car radio and the fur suits in your trunk

[@cdangelo1843]

How to make a billion dollars with a car radio

[@banbanthebandit4002]

It’s honestly refreshing to hear someone tear this movie apart because I’m honestly sick of my friends and family let bad film making slide because “it’s just a kids movie.”

[@jarielwilliams9856]

Ya know there's a saying that's similar to what you said "A children's story that kids only enjoy is not a good story. But a children's story that everyone can enjoy is a good kids story."

[@chaserseven2886]

@@jarielwilliams9856then it’s not a kids movie then

[@jarielwilliams9856]

@@chaserseven2886 if kids don't like it, it might as well be garbage

[@jackislegitterrified3689]

​​@@jarielwilliams9856Like, are you trying to say that if a kids movie is not enjoyable by kids it's bad, or any movie in general? And if it isn't the ladder, does that mean any kids movie that tries goes to hard and js accidentally more enjoyable by adults bad? For an example, Rango. That movie is great but if you're a child you may not like it as much as you would when you're older. Something to think about

[@jarielwilliams9856]

@jackislegitterrified3689 I'd say that if it's something that all ages can enjoy it's a good kids movie or series, and doesn't need to explain the basic morals that kids already know, or do lame and disgusting jokes. Take bluey for example, everyone loves that show (I even saw a video of a dog watching it) I think that as long as kids, teens, and adults like it. Then it's a good piece of media.

[@M4t_P4tGT]

I watched both “Secret Life of Pets” movies. They were kinda shit 💀

[@bigbrothertw]

i mean the voice work was pretty good but yeah its a p garbage movie

[@coolnazar]

When i watched the whole video, i know one thing about ls mark. *is that the mouse is his favourite character* 22:22

[@sketchyjulia]

Kinda wish the performers actually interacted with each other. The sequel acts like they're all super close but in the first movie (and hell even in the sequel itself) they barely talked to each other apart from the scene where Rosita and Gunter comfort Ash after her boyfriend cheated on her. Both movies kinda just imply character development without really showing it. Like that's not inherently a bad thing, like idk if this was even intentional but I like that Ash wears mostly red clothing in the sequel wheras in the first her outfit was essentially a copy of her boyfriend's, showing that shes more confident and has moved on from him, but in a movie about people putting on a show together while overcoming their own personal issues I kinda want to actually see them bonding

[@Imperviousdragon]

Yeah that's why I said the story needed more work and I wished they talked a lot

[@Hemostat]

I think it would've been funny to not ever have the point of view leave buster moon. So you just have all this random shit like cops, criminal gorillas, mobster bears, 24 pig kids all just show up and cause chaos with no explanation.

[@The0320Angela]

Probably one of the reasons why I dropped both Sing movies and eventually despise them. It's as if they barely show effort on adding intriguing dialogues between all of the characters. To be honest, I have waited for the sequel if they could tackle on building up established relationships from the first film including what is supposed to be Johnny & Meena's romance (As a matter of fact, I used to ship them and my internal feelings became real salty by the time Meena was given a foil love interest instead. Like is Illumination afraid of including a cross species love story or something!? What a ripoff!😠)

[@imactuallykools]

rest is peace mike the mouse. he was a real one. when you needed someone to talk to, he was there. when you needed someone to lift your spirit up, he was there. rest in peace my man. rest in peace.

[@do_you_see_banana_man]

“Save de world, my final message” -Seth McFarlane Mouse Guy

[@lexy4037]

THEY DID WHAT TO MIKE? IN ILLUMINATION MOVIE???

[@thecompletionist4186]

The fact that the Seth Macfarlane mouse is canonically dead is the funniest shit to me.

[@quartzossie]

The only thing good about these films is that they've inspired me to write a story about actually characterized anthropomorphic animals competing in a deadly spoof of American Idol.

[@Driftion2080]

I'd actually love to read that if the project's finished-

[@charmandyorton006]

Maybe it’ll be a blood sport like the 2022 Oscars

[@ShadowWolfRising]

.....So Musical Squid Games?

[@PikaLink91]

Well it's always great when something bad can inspire others to do better. I'm a writer myself.

[@cortomaltese5206]

Based

[@darkbowser7299]

I just realised that Illumination is making the Mario Movie. This can be either a movie that is surprisingly good, a movie that is very memeable, a movie that is decent or just shit.

[@goGothitaLOL]

Exhibit A) Sonic 2, Angry Birds Movie 2, Into The Spiderverse, Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs, The Lego Movie, Kung Fu Panda, The Bad Guys, among others Exhibit B) Shark Tale, 93 Mario Movie (and by extension the 3 DIC Mario cartoons from the late 80s/early 90s, mostly thanks to YTPs and Vsauce), The Lorax, and ironically Shrek and Megamind Exhibit C) Despicable Me 1, Sonic 1, Detective Pikachu, (arguably) Despicable Me 2, Captain Underpants, Spies in Disguise, Storks, and even Teen Titans GO! To The Movies Exhibit D) The Angry Birds Movie 1, Rachet and Clank, The Boss Baby, The Emoji Movie, Shrek The Third, Ralph Breaks The Internet, Scoob, and basically the rest of Illumination's catalog

[@TheEldritchHyena]

@@goGothitaLOL I feel like the Lorax was pretty memeable too, despite being not a very good movie.

[@decidueyesrandm5526]

@@TheEldritchHyena definitely O'Hare was massively a meme Oh yeah and the Lorax with the tree loving thing

[@seventy1295]

It'll most definitely be a movie. Just like Morbius.

[@alexandergazmen3126]

have you seen the leaked plot? it's absolutely abysmal. i unironically wish we could go back to the '93 one after seeing that

[@slowkingsquad4741]

If this is the angriest video you have ever made, wait until the new minions movie. Also, Mike the family guy mouse didn’t deserve to die, F for Mike.

[@user-rf5ui6sr4r]

F

[@robindunks]

Animated movie: exists LS mark: this is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen

[@jaborsey_joseph]

I feel like the reason Mike the mouse was killed off was because the directors and Illumination were offended by Seth not wanting to reprise the role.

[@firecrakerj3312]

Ironic considering he probably only took the role in the first place because at this point, he’d literally take ANY role that’s not Family Guy related.

[@MatthewCampbell765]

12:19 Yeah, this is arguably a common mistake when making works starring nonhuman characters or in a strange setting: Having a theoretically unusual setting, but having it be utterly aesthetic. For example, Shark's Tale has an aquatic setting, but the characters are so anthropomorphized that it could easily be a movie about humans. By contrast, something like Toy Story prioritized making sure that the problems the characters faced were "toy problems, not human problems".

[@sirGuy1995]

I have to somewhat disagree on the Shark Tail one; although the story would be mostly the same, they did do some interesting things with the settings for a few characters/jokes. Like, Oscar is a cleaner fish, an actual type of fish that cleans gunk out of whales, so they made that like his job in the movie, and paralleled it to a car wash. His boss is a pufferfish who is easily stressed, so of course he blows up whenever it happens like a real pufferfish. And when oscar bets all his money, he bets it on a seahorse race, which is treated as a horse race. While yes, the story would have worked mostly the same if they were all humans, you would still miss out on some jokes/characterization if they were all humans instead; sort of like Spongebob in that regard. But yeah, that’s still a good point

[@carsonthompson4260]

@@sirGuy1995 I didn’t read any of your comment, but I am going to assume it sucks and you are a BIG POPPY HED!1!1!1! Because you said Shark Tails is good, I think.

[@baalfgames5318]

@@carsonthompson4260 I'm assuming this is a joke, but he didn't say that.

[@user-dx8zs5cy7h]

The off screen lore about mike is more interesting than the actual lore

[@b.lazing9923]

When i watched Sing 2 and i saw the husky girl, the linx, the tiger and the gorilla in a tank top i went "Yep, this is just some furry fuel..."

[@SomeGuy-tr2hi]

I’m surprised so many people give Illumination’s anthropomorphic animal designs a pass, I think they look awful. Particularly Porsha, they literally gave her the most freakishly long legs they could. They learned nothing from when they designed Max’s owner from Secret Life. Same goes for her dad, they just put a wolf head on Gru’s body.

[@sketchyjulia]

i think the internet would disagree with you on Porsha _if you know what I mean_ and yea i literally noticed the wolf man kinda had Gru's body while I was watching it lmao. He's honestly one of the better characters tho, I like how batshit he is and he just full on tries to murder Moon

[@SomeGuy-tr2hi]

@@sketchyjulia Fair enough, I can’t even be mad at him for that as I’d probably do the same. I just don’t think either of them should get a pass just cause they’re popular amongst you know whos. There’s a reason why good anatomy is such an important part of anthropomorphic design.

[@sketchyjulia]

@@SomeGuy-tr2hi she’s also taller than all of the characters including the gorilla and elephant?? She’s a wolf at the very least she should be shorter than the gorilla

[@SomeGuy-tr2hi]

@@sketchyjulia Exactly! Like I know it’s a redundant comparison, but Zootopia’s attention to detail when it comes to their anatomy completely eclipses this corporate product that’s being called a film.

[@adammuhirwa5245]

How do you manage to be so lazy with your character design? Like what?

[@themassaikingshow9827]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the Sing movies. The music is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp on musical theater, the songs will go over a typical viewers head.

[@Danbo22987]

5:40 This is how I feel when people say Guardians of the Galaxy is their favorite movie soundtrack

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

To Despicable Me 2's credit, it was the last best Despicable Me Movie, due to it actually following the first film's story, as well as it still being focused on Gru, while the Minions were just a plot device. Plus some people think the 2nd Film is better then the 1st one.

[@goGothitaLOL]

and then in the 3rd one, they were given not only a spin-off (with a sequel coming in 2 months), but also a whole sub-plot in DM3

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@goGothitaLOL WTF?

[@kootunesscrewy]

Tbh, after Minions, Illumination did kinda went downhill in favor of focusing on cashgrabs. Don't get me wrong. I think The Grinch, the Sing movies and the first Sercet Life of Pets were some cool movies in my opinion, but they didn't have the same feel as the Despicable Me/Minions movies.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I never understood why people would watch this when The Muppet Show already exists.

[@ernestomiloli8414]

You are a true one!

[@jimmymelendez1836]

Geez, you are so correct.

[@palp8623]

The only thing I dont agree with is that they're conning people. They're just making junk movies that the bulk wants to see. Most people are dumb. Studios are doing what people are giving them money for. It's not art, it's business.

[@alexpotts6520]

Sing must be pretty high up on a list of "movies that didn't deserve a sequel but got one anyway"

[@alexfranco1293]

Nothing's better than watching a new LS Mark on a day off

[@xx_bugc0re3_xx28]

@u know me Flagged 🥹

[@tommybrock5112]

@u know me AYOOO GUYS, I JUST FOUND A NEW SPEAK PEEK FOR SING 3!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKqrgo2lmbaooJo

[@HordikaNate3821]

And after getting important shit done

[@shadowthief6471]

@u know me no

[@battty_nattty]

Coming straight home from work and watching the new L Smark video is definitely a close second

[@ok_uh_eli_i_guess376]

I have been so alone in believing this for the longest time, but THANK YOU for bringing attention to the difference between animation and art style!

[@Aaronpennell997]

The director looks like rumple stiltskin from shrek 4

[@rmn070]

🤣

[@demetriuskafkoulas5005]

This comment made me laugh harder than any joke made in an Illumination movie

[@germany1751]

I haven’t laughed this hard since they said we’re losing to the soviets

[@m4ye104]

I love how after making this video mark has changed the title from "Are the Sing movies any good?" To "The Sing movies are awful." Like he time to think it over and got more pissed off at the movies.

[@GurahkWeavile]

Honestly, these films would work better as animated series rather than as movies. Because you cannot make such huge worlds and characters so quickly and so well in such a tight time frame, especially with the massive cast you have. If it was like a 25-episode season to cover these I think they'd be fine films.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

Yeah... this could work.

[@beepbeeplettuce5890]

yes you can, zootopia did it just fine

[@MarcusTalks123]

@@beepbeeplettuce5890 zootopia didn’t try to focus on 8 “main” characters for the whole runtime.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

​@@MarcusTalks123 You can tell that to the Disney+ series.

[@misterzygarde6431]

I legitimately am worried for the Mario movie considering Illumination’s track record, I’d have liked it if Dreamworks Animation got the reins. But who knows maybe it’ll be a film you wouldn’t expect Illumination to make.

[@professornova1236]

The delay only heightens that worry. I feel nintendo went and saw how much of a success the sonic movie was and thought mario wouldn't fare well so they're changing the plot out of fear.

[@dragonmaster3030]

Ha, it's illumination, they've already made it clear their just their for lazy money

[@staticaleel5068]

I really hope that the Mario movie isn’t truly bad, because if so Nintendo being as overprotective of their ip’s as they are would rob us the chance of seeing a Zelda, Metroid, kirby, pikmin, F-Zero, splatoon, or even another Mario movie again being too afraid to lend their Ip out again.

[@onezeldafan9349]

@@staticaleel5068 they once even canceled a Zelda movie out of fear that it would end up like the cartoon, sooo…

[@MonkeyDGooner]

considering its well nintendo, mario is probably safe

[@babykillingcadillac6719]

the funniest part of this video is that he completely forgot to mention the elephant girl in the first movie,,, she was just so unmemorable he forgot she existed despite being a main character

[@w_toons7640]

He did.

[@w_toons7640]

Lmao

[@w_toons7640]

17:46

[@oliviaspecht7228]

Both Sing movies mostly are bland overall, but just noticed fat pig's luggage at 23:22 is pretty funny xD

[@coffeebeans5460]

One thing that confuses me about the movie that few people already pointed out is, like...why animals? What's the point of having this movie feature anthropomorphic animal characters when they don't take even utilize certain traits of animals? Like at least have a dog pissing on a fire hydrant or a sheep having a "b-a-a-a" speech tic, or even a grizzly devouring a jar of honey and stealing someone's picnic basket. Literally BEAR MINIMUM EFFORT! This movie could have human characters and it would still be the same movie.

[@1Thunderfire]

Illumination would probably be then accused of relying on cliched animal stereotype jokes, let's be honest.

[@valletas]

The reason is: Design variety While they dont use their animal traits it is aquick and cheap way of making characters stand apart from each other

[@sketchyjulia]

yea like i dont mind that much that theyre anthro animals but I do wish they did more with their world. The only things I can think of is Ash shooting her quills when she gets emotional (which porcupines cant actually do), Buster's small size allowing him to crawl through small spaces, and the gorilla dad escaping jail by breaking the wall and and scaling buildings while he escapes. other than that theyre just living in a normal California-esque city

[@baalfgames5318]

Kind of agree with Unknown. The fact that the characters are anthropomorphic animals is honestly the best thing about the movies. Sure, they could have been told with humans, but why not animals? It adds more variance to the characters asthetics, which honestly makes them more appealing then they would be if they were humans. I do agree that it would have been nice to see something tying it in, though.

[@donnamitsuki281]

Well there's character design reasons and even marketing reasons (animals make younger audiences pay attention I suppose) tho you are right about it not being truly used more othern than a couple of jokes here and there unlike a world like Zootopia were the plot and world literally depend on them being animals. I suppose that was Illumination's logic,make it animals so they pay attention to us,and again,character variety (even if that can be obtained easily with humans,especially animated ones)

[@goGothitaLOL]

The fate of Mike the Mouse sounds like the kind of plotline that Family Guy would do, to be honest EDIT which is kinda fitting since Seth MacFarlane voiced him

[@koolkitt788]

The sing movies are great… Examples of how to do an animated movie… poorly

[@LFanimes333]

As an anime enjoyer, I’m absolutely blown away by your definition of “good animation”. If this shit is badly animated, then holy shit, I’m truly sorry for 99.99% of every other animation ever made.

[@LFanimes333]

@I Yeah? As in someone who likes anime? I fail to see the issue.

[@sukunasgaylover]

I dunno, I thought Sing was a pretty good anime. I still can't believe Nina the Elephant was the Colossal Titan, it shook me to my core.

[@benpodvia5744]

@I haha, "anime pfp = invalid opinion"! so funny! 🙃🙃🙃😐😐😐

[@ey3z4ya]

You say that as if sing is the pinnacle of animation lol

[@LFanimes333]

@@ey3z4ya It’s most definitely in the top 1%, yeah.

[@castform7]

See, this is why I'm very worried about the Mario movie. I know I know, Miyamoto's overseeing things and it's delayed but will that really be enough. Illumination hasn't made a movie that surpassed mediocre since Despicable Me 1 and has shown that it's willing to do the most cost effective moves to make as much money back as possible. Excuse me if I don't have much faith in them at all.

[@GameFreak2467]

Miyamoto being there isn't a good thing

[@jdawson7877]

i have a good feeling there gonna make the toads and goomba's act like the minions

[@captainmarsh3664]

@@GameFreak2467 Don't see how it's a bad thing, honestly. For as much as a bad rap he's gotten for some questionable decisions in other aspects his biggest misstep regarding the Mario series itself were the suggestions he gave to Tanabe during the production of Sticker Star that were taken to the extreme. The guy has a clear vision for the series but he isn't opposed to Mario doing whacky stuff that breaks the norm (as proven by him approving of all of Odyssey's ideas besides the New Donkers, which he came around to anyways), so him spearheading the movie seems like the perfect fit.

[@coolturtle5116]

@@captainmarsh3664 also Nintendo is most likely watching over the script 20 times a day because they remember the last time a studio wrote a Mario movie

[@MadMasterPorkey]

@@coolturtle5116 What do you mean? There was no "last time"

[@Mr.Hedghog]

22:39 rip mouse man

[@Kingofportals]

R.I.P. Mike the Mouse, you will be missed! Gone but never forgotten! 😔

[@GoInGcRz]

Only good thing about Sing 2 is Johnny and his Dads story. A character who never truly valued his son and how special he was until it was too late, but ultimately realized his mistake and made sure to let him know how much he now idolized him.

[@blinxman4956]

The only scene I've watched is the gorilla voiced by Taron Egerton singing "I'm Still Standing". It's probably the main highlight of the film for me.

[@mileven3ggo3njoyer]

The sing movies have some of the worst trailers I've ever seen. Despite being meh movies, the trailers spoil the entire thing and ruin any potential surprises.

[@rivy-lurk-869]

JOHN LEWIS, WHERE IS HE

[@matthewtoad4335]

8:42 He's the only one that doesn't come back in the sequel omg

[@Volvagia1927]

20:18: That is a DISTRACTINGLY detailed/realistic ice-cream cone being passed between two super cartoony characters.

[@grantwilliams2571]

If there's Ice cream in Sing, who the actual fuck is getting milked?

[@MisterMistopher]

I think the point I agree with the most and needs to be brought up more is the point that there is a supreme lack of style in these movies. As someone who cares a lot about artistic direction, style is incredibly important to making any piece of art stick and be unique. Whether it be a game, a movie, a song or just an illustration, it's the firm belief of me - and many other artists I'm sure - that the fingerprints of the artist are just as important as the art itself, and with these shallow movies, there is hardly any artistic style and therefore no artistic substance.

[@Imperviousdragon]

I understand the movie is lazy but it's good 👍

[@demetrian7856]

@@Imperviousdragon Good is spiderverse, this is the equivalent of a boiled potato in movie form. Perfectly edible (and cheap) but if it's your favorite or you call it good you're actually insane. Only good thing to come out of it is the scene where the lion points a gun at the screen.

[@baalfgames5318]

@@demetrian7856 "good" is subjective. Not saying this movie is good (never seen it), just saying.

[@demetrian7856]

@@baalfgames5318 It's really not, everything has a way to be determined as objective.

[@baalfgames5318]

@@demetrian7856 Yes, but what you might see as a flaw others might actually like. Take this one game I'm playing, for example. I actually like it's overly happy, cutesy and wholesome tone, but some people might prefer a game that's grittier and less optimistic, which I tend not to like. One thing I can say about Illumination is that I usually find them fun to watch. They may not have the best stories, but I can't help but like the character designs in some of them. Other people actually don't like the artstyle, though, and that's fine. But usually the movies tend to be harmless, being derivitave and generic at worst, though usually just okay at best.

[@Manz1l1]

It Felt like an off brand wannabe combination of Cats Don’t Dance & Happy Feet

[@BigBossMan538]

One thing from the Sing 2 trailer, didn’t bother seeing the film I didn’t care, that stood out to me was that the trainer was a proboscis monkey. As an animal nerd, I thought that was interesting that they used a fairly obscure animal.

[@starkillersneed]

I hate anthropomorphic animal movies where they do so little with the fact that they're animals you could make a live action version with humans while changing almost nothing.

[@Skidaro]

Funny story: I was super sick at the beginning of the year (not sure if it was THE sickness or just a really bad cold). One morning during the early stages, I woke up around 4-5 AM and felt awful. So I went down to make myself some oatmeal thinking that would make me feel better. During my disillusioned state, I decided to watch the first Sing for whatever reason. I ate my oatmeal, curled up on the couch and brought it up on demand. I didn't even make it five minutes into the film before I turned it off and went back to bed because I started feeling dizzy and nauseous. My body physically couldn't handle this movie.

[@ram89572]

While funny I'm just gonna press X to doubt that it was that awful of a movie. Also if you aren't sure whether it was or wasn't then rejoice for even if you had it, it was so mild that you aren't sure. I'm coming off of having it for a second time now and there was no question either time for me that my test would be positive. Last year it took me down for 3 weeks and put me borderline at whether they were going to admit me to the hospital or try the monoclonals. Thankfully it wasn't that bad this time but still plenty bad enough that I knew what it was before the test. It just didn't screw with my oxygen levels for more than a day this time though.

[@liltay7628]

Maybe the bright saturation gave you a headache

[@math2085]

the only good thing about Sing is the Taron Egerton cover of I'm still standing.

[@ejumper_0987]

ong

[@Cherushi_i]

Honestly, Sing 2 was one of those things where I turned my brain off and mostly enjoyed it when watching it, then I took like 2 seconds to think about it afterward was like "wait what the fuck did I just watch"

[@yourstereotypicalnerd]

The Grinch is one of the most “It’s fine, could be worse” movie I have seen

[@drypenny3561]

The grinch is my favorite dr suess movie unironicley and cat in the hat is my favorite dr suess movie ironicley.

[@Quartzer.]

I didn't like that film what so ever the other Grinch movie was just way better. The Grinch was alot more like the Grinch (the Illumination Grinch was way too nice)

[@Frames12521]

Yea, I didn't love it, hate it, like it, or dislike it, it's so complete middle of the road

[@dabatman5187]

@@Quartzer. facts. Like throughout the movie he’s at worst just a troll. Which isn’t good when he’s supposed to be this crooked and mean character

[@kootunesscrewy]

I think The Grinch was just good. Had its moments, but it felt like a cashgrab. But be glad that Illumination wasn't like Blue Sky. Blue Sky in general died after Rio. The only good movie from them was The Peanuts Movie, with the rest being bland movies just to be like Ice Age.

[@snoopystar80]

In regards to the music take that even the editor addressed, there is a franchise that uses licensed music ( that already banged) in a genius ways to further the story and characters, where the praise should also goes to the people that made the movies: Shrek

[@justal761]

Shrek is love, Shrek is life

[@rmn070]

What ar ye doin’ in ma swamp

[@garfgif]

Yeah the difference between song usage in Shrek and Sing is the difference between the clever choice and song placement in Glee season 1 vs when they did what does the fox say in Glee season 5

[@BreeOwnsMyHeart]

This was uploaded on the day my gf broke up with me to date someone else. Good times

[@TLVSN-ib2hg]

They turned Vegas into a colourful Los Angeles 💀

[@Deedo_67]

I just thought about this while watching the video; but with 7 main characters, Sing could’ve made a really good TV show.

[@mushroomsalad5525]

that'd actually be really cool. it'd give alot more time to give different character interactions and flesh them out more. its why some movies fail greatly- they only have so much time to flesh out all their characters in a 1 hour 30 minute timespan

[@pradeepdungdung4379]

yeah that takes too much effort for Illumination

[@Imperviousdragon]

Sadly sing doesn't make enough attention or Money for it to happened but overall it might be a cute series I wouldn't mind watching but it should just be 7 main characters and maybe a few more like 2 and they could talk about their pass lives or something interesting we want to know like "wtf happened to porsha mom?

[@goGothitaLOL]

@@pradeepdungdung4379 DreamWorks can make TV shows, so why can't Illumination?

[@antusfirenova6426]

@@goGothitaLOL because dreamworks actually puts effort in stuff half of the times (they made stuff like boss baby and Shark tale, but they also made stuff like kung fu panda and how to train your dragon)

[@DigitaIizer]

Onceler: How ba- aa- d can I be? Illumination: How la- a- zy can I be?

[@Britshit]

11:37 Someone DEFINITELY had fun making this

[@nekozombie]

it's edited sadly :(

[@VidyaBros1]

All I remember referring to these garbage movies as is just "Pop Culture References: The Movie" and "Pop Culture References: The Movie 2".

[@trinaq]

I actually liked the sequel even more than the original, which is almost always a rarity for me. The jokes just seemed fresher, and the song choices were catchier, in my opinion.

[@nightboy11x54]

Me too, The original movie was just, Okay?

[@katlyndobransky2419]

Sequels are always better

[@nightboy11x54]

@@katlyndobransky2419 Except when it's Cars 2...

[@GabesEdtiz]

@@nightboy11x54 I mean I could argue even that movie has a sense of fun to it. Plot-wise, it’s pretty bad, but entertainment wise it’s not bad at all

[@nightboy11x54]

@@GabesEdtiz Which movie are you talking about right now? I'm confused.

[@Lucky_9705]

I fell into the trap of enjoying the first one when I was younger. After rewatching it nearly 5 years later, I can definitely see why people dislike it and I myself am one of them.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

It’s basically “Oh look a Pop Song” movie

[@piranhalettuce]

Same thing happened with me too, I liked the first one a lot when I was younger and when I watched it again years later I couldn't stand it.

[@Abigart69]

I refuse to believe it was 5 years ago

[@flippyfrogman]

Yeah, it came out when I was little, and of course I liked it but I liked everything, I was retarded

[@TheAnimeYoungin]

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 yeah its called a Juice box musical. Some are loved. Sing films are some of them.

[@clankertown]

When Mike and his girlfriend were brutally killed by the bear mafia and they made it look like an accident I cried in the theater.

[@juliawiniarz326]

Excuse me-

[@clankertown]

@@JustMeOreo yes

[@beargreen1]

LS Mark knows how to describe stuff without getting canceled. He's a cool dude.