The Skeletons of Spain’s Fascist Past

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@madgreek253 Жыл бұрын

Ive always wondered if my grandfather is buried in a grave like this in Greece when the Nazis invaded during WW2. He was arrested 1 day and never seen again.

@carlettesouthern-robert2992 Жыл бұрын

Condolences on your Grandfather's disappearance. May the memory of your living Grandfather always be a blessing. 🌹🕊🕯

@yakovbrod9992 Жыл бұрын

@@carlettesouthern-robert2992 he shouldn't have been supporting communism

@1ute Жыл бұрын

My condolences from another Washingtonian

@karolinakartagena4627 Жыл бұрын

Wow!

@Sabakinno Жыл бұрын

*Germans

@onlyeuan2587 Жыл бұрын

Watching Norberto Pico sit there on camera and deny every single atrocity committed by Franco and his supporters is terrifying, and it's even more terrifying that he isn't alone in doing so. It isn't enough to simply not listen to these people, because they'll keep spouting their rhetoric regardless. They must be actively opposed, challenged and shut down at every opportunity, otherwise this will only continue.

@marpintado Жыл бұрын

History repeats himself over and over again. Governes don't care for victims.

@guillermo.mserrano Жыл бұрын

Antifascist action.

@LeftvsReich Жыл бұрын

US conservatives are no better. They deny the atrocities they committed in the past (slavery, genociding the native population, weaponizing the AIDS epidemic against gay people, etc) so that they can get away with it again. They've always been cancer to society.

@super-kami-guru Жыл бұрын

@thazfffi hate to be the one that tells you, but Franco is dead lol. Move on you facist

@alvaropalacios5393 Жыл бұрын

@thazfff mira mama, un mono

@kathyw7369 Жыл бұрын

I'm grateful for the reporter's courage and persistence in debunking the fascist party leader's denials.

@gamerdrew2761 Жыл бұрын

Journalist didn't even give him an opportunity to respond to his questions. He came at him like it was a debate, not an interview, and heavily edited on top of that. No wonder vice is going bankrupt, they don't care about doing proper journalism or offering all sides an equal voice, they just want to push a narrative. Good riddance to vice news.

@EphraimIgnacio Жыл бұрын

@@gamerdrew2761Fascists don’t deserve any good faith debate. They only deserve an early grave.

@JoeySav Жыл бұрын

not all reporters are cowards thankfully.

@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын

@@AnswersonapostcardThis isn't the BBC and nobody was impartial when it came to the Nazis after the first few years. Bad people and bad ideas need to be challenged. He did a fantastic and brave job.

@kathyw7369 Жыл бұрын

@@Answersonapostcard Reporters are supposed to report facts, not just let people make whatever claims they want.

@kvici Жыл бұрын

"I am not a historian" is what fascists say EVERYWHERE when faced with evidence.

@pissfather6798 Жыл бұрын

thats gotta be my favourite brand of fascist, the sniveling pathetic coward that cant even actually admit to the things the regimes he stands for verifiably did. but atleast there in the end he was honest for once. "im no historian, in fact i have absolutely zero clue about history whatsoever. i am a politician". yeah exactly.

@batsy3 Жыл бұрын

they don't believe in anything, they just roll with whatever works, like how franco banned the fascist salute after nazi germany fell

@thedudefromrobloxx Жыл бұрын

And it's not even relevant. Like why should they be historians lmfao? Historians teach us about whay happened, so that not every one has to be one, and the work historians do is spread widely throughout society. I really don't understa d why these fascist dumbasses think you need to be a historian to know about the past

@dsnodgrass4843 Жыл бұрын

Everything a fascist says is strategic.

@tryomama Жыл бұрын

@@thug588says the people who lost the war

@mytruecrimelibrary Жыл бұрын

Fascism arrives as your friend It will restore your honor Make you feel proud Protect your house Give you a job Clean up your neighborhood Remind you of how great You once were Clear out the venal And the corrupt Remove anything you feel Is unlike you It doesn't walk in saying "Our program means militias Mass imprisonments Transportations War and persecution " Micheal Rosen

@AbuBased731 Жыл бұрын

Fas¢i$m is *[BASED]* LOL

@mytruecrimelibrary Жыл бұрын

@@AbuBased731 no

@AbuBased731 Жыл бұрын

@@mytruecrimelibrary Ja

@GameFuMaster Жыл бұрын

wow, it's funny how similar fascism and communism is. Just literally changing the first word to communism and it'll still work

@mytruecrimelibrary Жыл бұрын

@@GameFuMaster neither political party is communist but Maga is fascist.

@dustinmorrison6315 Жыл бұрын

"show me the evidence", "fake news", "both sides", "it wasn't that bad", ..., classic

@gamerdrew2761 Жыл бұрын

All legitimate points

@edward9674 Жыл бұрын

The genocide deniers spiel: "It did not happen, , it was faked, yes it did happen but there were much less dead than what people reported, yes it did happen and they deserved it". That's how genocide deniers always go.

@cancerino666 Жыл бұрын

@@gamerdrew2761no it isn't. You literally saw the evidence and witnesses in this video.

@Drkon6 Жыл бұрын

@@gamerdrew2761is your brain smooth

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

Talking about Stalin 's allies

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people forget that not so long a go there was a dictatorship in Spain. If they think of dictatorship in Europe, they think about Germany.

@davidz3879 Жыл бұрын

Followed by Basque separatists doing likewise.

@pachero Жыл бұрын

That is natural, because Germany had a more recent dictatorship than Spain (until 1989 with the fall of the Berlin Wall). So Germany entered the community of democratic countries only after East Germany ceased to exist, that is more than a decade after Spain became democratic in the 70’s.

@geminiiskull Жыл бұрын

Spain,Portugal, Germany.... we went from kings to dictators to whatever we have today.

@kenster8270 Жыл бұрын

You must be American then. I'm pretty sure that most people in Europe are painfully aware that Spain, Portugal, Greece plus all of Central and Eastern Europe (except Austria) were brutal authoritarian regimes until relatively recently. And yes, that includes part of Germany.

@damilkk Жыл бұрын

@@pachero great point.

@sarahkorb Жыл бұрын

In 2010, I was studying in U de Salamanca for my Masters. I had brought up a few things I read about Franco to the Professor. He got real defensive about Franco and said my resources were incorrect. I didn't understand why this Professor was sticking up for Franco until I realized that area of Spain was predominantly pro Franco during the war and after. Thank you for sharing this video. Most are not aware of Spain's history

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

While you were sticking up for Stalin

@hakanbrakankrakan Жыл бұрын

@@eedragonrStating objective truth is not political.

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

@@hakanbrakankrakan it is historical objective truth

@davidprietogomez7254 Жыл бұрын

Did you think then, that maybe he being a university professor and spaniard he knew more than you? Of course not, why use your brain if you can just say he is a fascist.

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

@@hakanbrakankrakanpolitical may be me listening to the plans of a big Spanish mixed family organizing a big holidays family fiesta with paella near the swimming pool under the motto "The English are not the friends of the Spaniards" "they don't learn the language, they don't integrate".

@normalhispanicdude Жыл бұрын

My grandparents and great grandparents and some of their family members fought not in an army, but in the resistance after 39. They were called "maquis". They did not support the POUM or the communist party, they supported freedom. Some of their family members died or moved to France to continue fighting the Nazis. Most of them never returned back to Spain and are probably buried like these bodies in the middle of the mountains somewhere. I grew up listening to stories about "desaparecidos durante la guerra". What we humans do to other humans should not be forgotten. Whether it is in Syria, Ukraine, Spain, or elsewhere. We are all the same.

@wilhelm4321 Жыл бұрын

If you didn't support the monarchy, the Army, or the church you supported Stalin who was just as involved in Spain as we and Italians were.

@firstpersonfeelings5479 Жыл бұрын

Makis were a comunist guerrilla formed by the communist party that the own Stalin and later on the very own party that created them wanted to eliminate. Maybe you can sell this freedom fight for non Spanish people, but they were not that

@z6445 Жыл бұрын

@@wilhelm4321Nazi

@johnmouawad5137 Жыл бұрын

yeah, your grandparents and great grandparents fought for communism not freedom

@TheAnthraxBiology Жыл бұрын

The Maquis came from various left-wing backgrounds with most maqui leaders being either PCE or CNT. PCE leadership declined after their decision to turn towards entrism in the national sindicate after Stalin announced he would no longer support their armed struggle. I don't know if you're talking about your grandparents personally or the maquis in general, but if you mean in general then you're wrong. I've been studying Spanish history in Spain for the last year and this is would be straight up wrong if that's what you mean.

@hhbddjstar Жыл бұрын

"They felt they are being persecuted." How do the facists think of that? They aren't being imprisoned randomly. They aren't being shot and buried in unmarked mass grave. They aren't disappeared without traces for being in the wrong party....

@dsnodgrass4843 Жыл бұрын

Everything they say is strategic, with the aim of getting them more power. They'll deny the sunrise, if necessary.

@darkhorseman8263 Жыл бұрын

Narcissists and Psychopaths always use projective defense mechanisms and the shifting of object. Masters of playing the ultimate victim.

@eksbocks9438 Жыл бұрын

It's not really about other people to them. It's more about their own affairs. I've been around people like this for years. What I've noticed is they can't process information or address anything that isn't self-serving to them. They can't admit any fault on their part. But they will be quick to blame somebody else. Usually intellectuals or whistleblowers. Because real world problems are not a priority to them. It's an "inconvenience."

@MrAlen6e Жыл бұрын

Why would they admit to their own crimes?, the fascist guy itself at the end event admit it at the end by saying " they should be grateful, we save them from the soviets " its their narrative and they will not chnage because in their mind everything its acceptable because it prevented that imaginary scenario

@johnallen7807 Жыл бұрын

Have you not read books like George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia"? Tens of thousands including priests and nuns were murdered by Republican forces.

@timnicodemus8651 Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing a wall in Barcelona with bullet holes from a Franco firing squad. Hearing the fascist deny these murders brought back memories of my tour guide getting very quiet and somber as we stood there. He said that he hated walking past that wall every day but he knew their stories needed to be told.

@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. Such a shame some bad people get such a voice now with the internet and social media. Comments like yours are imperative.

@escualoblasfemo3204 Жыл бұрын

Hey, i think you might be talking about "Plaça de Sant Felip Neri". A lot of people think those marks are from firing squads, but actually it's from a bomb fired from a plane. Those holes are shrapnell marks. Not less somber, it killed 42 persons and about half of them were kids. I'm not sure if the guide said it on purpose or just general belief.

@marcgascon926 Жыл бұрын

@An0n3mu55 How can a child ever be a carrier of "Bolshevik ideology", ¿Cómo jusitficas su muerte?? ¿Es realmente la ideologia bolshevique tan dañina? ¿Qué es lo que creen que haga que se merezca que les masacren a ellos y toda su familia?

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

With so much radicalism /extremists at the political right and left can't be expected anything to work anymore.

@electroyt5026 Жыл бұрын

Are you by chance referring to the plaça de sant felip Neri? I think many people have the idea that it's bullet holes, but from what I've been told by my family (from Barcelona), is that it was actually the result of shrapnel from an Italian bombing campaign. Apparently it was full of kindergardeners waiting outside of the kindergarden for class to start. The original kindergarden is still there and in business.

@reagan_pereira_ Жыл бұрын

Really satisfying to see a journalist actually pushback against the fascist interviewee rather than just giving them a platform where they can spread their hate.

@macroxela Жыл бұрын

Vice News reporters usually do a good job of interviewing and challenging people with radical or extremist views ... but this interview with Norberto Pico was not one of them. The reporter was too incensed and over the place with his questions. He wasn't pushing back against him effectively since he let his emotions get to him and just repeated himself in ways Pico easily countered with rhetoric. He wound up doing exactly what he feared, giving Pico a platform to grow. I think someone like Isobel or others who have more experience with such people should have carried out the interview instead.

@jvelazque005 Жыл бұрын

Nah he did a great job

@gghost1224 Жыл бұрын

The Falange does not spread hate towards anyone. You are spreading hate against fascists for no reason right now without any knowledge of their ideology. Falangism is not racist.

@macroxela Жыл бұрын

@@jvelazque005 I think the comment below yours by gghost1224 somewhat proves my point...

@anonymousanimal1534 Жыл бұрын

The interviewer let his emotions run loose and barely let the the other guy talk at all. It's like two middle schooler arguing, with both sides exchanging whataboutism and blanket statements. The Falange leader, despite not organizing his words along his argumentative logic as well as he should have, still gained the upper hand because he was at least more calm and sophisticated, unlike the interviewing journalist. I wish he would have went along his own philosophy and interpretation instead of being led by the nice by the journalists in the beginning.

@thepablyko Жыл бұрын

as a spanish I thank you for exposing this so outside pressure can help justice be applied finally

@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын

@thazfffDo not be stupid.

@ALeaud Жыл бұрын

@thazfff How about we not support fascists and communists and other tyrants?

@joyybugg Жыл бұрын

@thazfff ya te pillaremos x ahi tirillas

@hubertcumberdale2651 Жыл бұрын

Why do you need "outside" pressure? This mentality is just living up to the stereotype that Latin's are too lazy to get projects done themselves.

@joyybugg Жыл бұрын

@@hubertcumberdale2651 what do you mean, if it was condemned internationally maybe the government would have to wipe the ministers that descend from franco's legacy, although if you ask me both the PP and PSOE parties should be disintegrated too for that matter (and obviously the one from the fascist in the video).

@coltonvanessa5096 Жыл бұрын

The sad resignation of that woman, who may or may not find her dad's remains. "I'll accept it [if I don’t]." The words of someone who, for much of her life, lived under an oppressive regime where she simply had to accept things as they came in order to stay alive

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

Or perhaps they did realize they were not quite right

@thecashier930 Жыл бұрын

As a German it's eerily reminiscant of our older history documentaries. Watching her interview feels exactly like watching an 80s or 90s interview of a victim of the Nazis. Watching the interview of the fashist, although sure, there's a bit of a modern trumpist touch to it, is like watching the interviews of people peddling the "clean Wehrmacht" myth in Germany a few decades ago. I can only wish spain the best on the way they now seem to have started walking, as Germany started to do in the ealry 70s. It's a hard path, but it's deeply necessary.

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

@@thecashier930Germany didn't have a civil war

@bingus1329 Жыл бұрын

@@eedragonr he never stated they did? xd

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

@@bingus1329 also Franco didn't do what Germany did

@anythingcompany Жыл бұрын

Fascist: Im not a historian. Im not trying to do politics based on something that happened almost a century ago... Same Fascist: I am also the leader of a political movement based on ideologies founded almost a century ago. 😂 so REGARDED!

@terri6854 Жыл бұрын

@billykilgannon No. The theories of communism and socialism are fine but get co-opted by dictatorship. The theory of fascism IS dictatorship.

@naitor2594 Жыл бұрын

@@terri6854 In order to achieve communism you need to first go through socialism, which is the dictatorship of the proletariat lmao

@rouwd4wn649 Жыл бұрын

@@naitor2594 not really... To make a communist society... You need to get rid off the state making everyone organize themselves in comunal groups... But... The socialist state is needed to educate people on how to do it without everything collapsing...

@rouwd4wn649 Жыл бұрын

If you knew history you would understand why fascism is so powerful in Spain... It is because the republic which was supposed to be the beacon of freedom started to kill the opposition... José calvo sotelo was shotted for being a monarchist... José Antonio was forced into prison for being fascist and then shotted when the civil war started... And I ain't saying that the fascist were better... There are no heroes... Nor villains... Just civil war and political violence forced by two systems... A "democratic" one and a "fascist" one...

@naitor2594 Жыл бұрын

@@rouwd4wn649 Yes, it educates via an authoritarian dictatorship that will inevitably kill millions of it's own population, marx literally called it the "dictatorship of the proletariat"

@hydrolifetech7911 Жыл бұрын

That Falangist party leader just from his body language embracing himself tells you he knows his political views is unacceptable in a civilised polite society of 2023 and his unconsciously trying to shield himself from the devastating questions being posed by the journalis. Kudos to that journalist for holding that fascist's feet to the fire!

@samuelweiss4548 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone else noticed that as well! As soon as the scene and discussion started you could clearly tell what side he'd protect

@gamerdrew2761 Жыл бұрын

@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836 Жыл бұрын

The only way I guess these people can justify their actions is by claiming that everyone who was murdered "deserved" it, or call them terrorists

@Aran002 Жыл бұрын

The Falangist party? You could fit them in a couple of school buses. 🤣🤣

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

Indeed western Europe is mirroring China these days. With much less talent, efficiency and effectiveness

@lucasharsh1396 Жыл бұрын

As always, Vice with the outstanding coverage of important topics no one else is talking about.

@baronvonandroid3363 Жыл бұрын

Sure 😂

@Dashi18n Жыл бұрын

In the historical community, the Spanish Civil War is getting a fairly new draw of attention and the source material is only getting bigger by the day

@MusicShortsGlobal Жыл бұрын

That's harsh bro

@gg-gamers Жыл бұрын

Whenever fascism sprouts it's ugly ass head anyone who follows that flag must be ground into dust

@bertsteinich Жыл бұрын

@@gg-gamers I wonder who determines whether someone is a fascist or not

@dave_riots Жыл бұрын

Fascism is bad. This should not be a controversial or triggering statement.

@odiolaginebra Жыл бұрын

Comunism commited so much crimes in Spain during de Civil War. Dont forget that.

@ghostxl8525 Жыл бұрын

@@odiolaginebrano, both sides commit war crimes in different ways, nobody in europe wants communism contrary to what americans believe social democracy is how their societies work and normal people will defend it against extremist

@odiolaginebra Жыл бұрын

@@ghostxl8525 you are so wrong. In Spain communists killed, clerics, nuns, whole families just for revenge against terrain owners, rich people, churchs, etc. Leftist in Spain lost the civil war but most crimes and terrorism after that was intencionally forgotten by leftist in the democracy.

@greyFCB Жыл бұрын

@@odiolaginebra autism is beating ur ass man.

@AbuBased731 Жыл бұрын

Muh [Fas©i$m] is *[BASED]* LMAOOO

@JoeySav Жыл бұрын

I sincerely hope that older woman finds her father . you can tell it would put her more at peace when she passes. Hopefully she can atleast get the closure and the burial of her father so she might if she wishes be buried next to him. It sucks to talk about death and more so murder, but it must be done.

@ThePizzaGoblin Жыл бұрын

Man, this reporter really went for that fascist's throat in the interview. Good

@gamerdrew2761 Жыл бұрын

Dishonest journalist set up an "interview" and didn't let the person they were interviewing fully answer a question before interrupting them and moving on to another topic. Vice news came in there and only wanted to push a narrative, not allow all sides to voice their opinions. Glad vice news is going bankrupt.

@ThePizzaGoblin Жыл бұрын

@@blank4227 nice whataboutism. Stop being cringe

@Aran002 Жыл бұрын

@@ThePizzaGoblinYou do know that thousands of priests and nuns were murdered during that war, don't you?

@ThePizzaGoblin Жыл бұрын

@@Aran002 did you even watch the documentary?

@Aran002 Жыл бұрын

@@ThePizzaGoblin Yes, and it's a pretty biased one. It tries to give the impression that the Falangist party is strong organization, when it really is a ridiculously small group that couldn't fill a dance hall and doesn't have a single elected representative anywhere. Concerning the victims of repression, you can just as easily find relatives of people shot by the Republicans. At the Municipality of Montcada i Reixac, near Barcelona, there is a mass grave with some 700 bodies which the Catalonian government has refused to exhume. You see, the victims are not "the good ones", they don't fit the current political narrative.

@marinamunoz7117 Жыл бұрын

My father's cousin died in the CIvil War as a soldier, and his mass grave got untouched until the last decade, the family tought the he died in a place, and was in another, because the pressure from the government and the power since the end of the Dictatorship was upon silence and leave all unnoticed. The reality of thousands of young women, children and disabled people with holes in their heads and signs of torture were not something of good publicity for the heirs of Franco.

@888ssss Жыл бұрын

what about the 6000 priests the communists murdered ?

@Dan_Breen Жыл бұрын

He was a dog

@888ssss Жыл бұрын

@@Dan_Breen he was just a spanish man taken in by international marxist propaganda designed to take land off land owners and give it to central bankers..

@888ssss Жыл бұрын

what about the republics bankers who stole the central gold and took it to moscow ?@@ghostlybird327

@rafaelnederland020 5 ай бұрын

My grandfather got captured by the nationalists he was in prison for 5 years but he got released gladly

@husa0190 Жыл бұрын

People don't talk enough about Spain's dark past in the last century. Franco's dictatorship was brutal and after a shady transtition, Spain's modern society has some serious issues.

@derpestarzt Жыл бұрын

no it wasn't and no amount of repeating the lie will change the past

@Immigrantlovesamerica Жыл бұрын

You guys are acting like the communist party in spain was LITERALLY jsut as bad and committed as many atrocities.

@coriolan1963 Жыл бұрын

@@derpestarzt nonsense.

@dominikopresnik8478 Жыл бұрын

Guess what....Communist regime was even worse

@camatrusaca Жыл бұрын

Spanish transition is as much of a transition as Russia is proving to be

@Ricardo_Belmonte Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for showing this, its such an important event that a lot of people tried to forget.

@plainlake Жыл бұрын

A lot of people want everyone else to forget how conservative fascism shaped Spain.

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

@@plainlakeAnd a lot of people want young people to believe all conservatism is the same way. Don't fall for the lie.

@unknown5150variable Жыл бұрын

@@jeffzima9270 yeah not all but your american maga is a fascist movement "14 Characteristics of Fascism" 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, and long incarcerations of prisoners 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists… 4. Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation. 6. Controlled Mass Media Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation or by sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Government censorship and secrecy, especially in war time, are very common. 7. Obsession with National Security Fear of hostile foreign powers is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined. Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions. 9. Protection of Corporate Power Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Suppression of Labor Power Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed . 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

@alexysq2660 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffzima9270 As if ANY variety of it is in any sense laudable....

@meilinchan7314 Жыл бұрын

It happens all across the world.

@boghyboghy3642 Жыл бұрын

Civil war is the most sad thing in the history of any country

@millennialsecularandauthri3338 Жыл бұрын

It’s necessary to do again in the US to get rid of the liberals

@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын

Very true. And it has happened in all.

@nuggetnugg5194 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad that they have talked about the atrocities committed during Francos rule however the problem I have with videos like this is that it ignores the fact that the Republicans during the civil war also killed and tortured civilians and soldiers just as the Nationalists did. It makes you think the Republicans were the "good guys" when there was no good guy during the civil war, both sides were bad it is just since Franco won his government had longer to do bad things.

@Aeternous Жыл бұрын

The Vice are bloody commies, so don't waste your effort.

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

Carlists suck. Falangism is based.

@MarcoMol Жыл бұрын

I'm from Spain and I want to thank this channel for this video, thank you. The civil war and the dictatorship were never judged, now there is not even an consensus about it because not only the far right but one of the major parties, founded by fascist politicians, want to forget about it...and those who are guilty.

@derpestarzt Жыл бұрын

"it was never judged" you didn't learn about La Transicion? there was a pact where both sides agreed to put the war behind, that's why ppl on the Republican side where still allowed to be part of government, unlike in any other country in the world where they would have been either imprisoned or executed.

@MarcoMol Жыл бұрын

@@derpestarzt of course I now about the transition, this is my own history, but I think we both agree that "put the war behind " is not justice. This fascists overthrowed a democratic government, used forced workers to make money and faraonic buildings, killed the republicans and their afines, stilled their properties and businesses and nowadays nobody has paid for that, the power they got is still in the same hands, just playing the "forgetting game". You said in other countries it was worst, but in spain it was as bad as it could be, they just cleaned their faces and adapted to the new times and ways, but the crimes still in the shadows. Take the example of Argentina, there they judged the dictatorship.

@splashafrica Жыл бұрын

@@derpestarztwrong there was already something simular in South africa after the boer war infact Generals Louis Botha and Jan Smuts could have been shot for treason by the English but ended up as governing allies for the english siding against Germany in both world wars

@splashafrica Жыл бұрын

We are still critical of the crimes of the British we never forgot we through it in their face the moment they showed weakness securing our final independence both the English and the Afrikaner served side by side in the government after the war but everyone new the score in Spain the score is disputed and the guilty party is allowed to claim ignorance when they are actually very clearly arrogant and proud of this exaggerated sense their sides own importance in Spains modern success

@BackwardzCap Жыл бұрын

I am a Dominican but my family originally came from Spain and migrated to the Dominican Republic in the 1800’s. Ever since I learned about this I’ve been very curious about my Spanish heritage and I always loved learning about Spain. From the periods from which Spain was conquered by the moors up to the Francois Spain regime.

@fredwood1490 Жыл бұрын

Here in the United States, it is also the cultural policy not to talk about such atrocities, committed by Americans on American Indians, Negroes, Asians, nearly every ethnic minority, again, under the guise of reunification. As for the dead of Spain, they are totally ignored here, with only the German Nazis being punished by popular culture. Thank you for showing me this.

@hubertcumberdale2651 Жыл бұрын

dude are you literally saying Indians and Negroes? Lol

@randir14 Жыл бұрын

Stop lying. Everything you mentioned is taught in US schools.

@joeybeargrooves4ever Жыл бұрын

We also don't talk about the fact that Leftists like Stalin and Mao killed 30 million and 60 million respectively, that Leftist Pol Pot killed the majority of the people living in Cambodia, and that thousands and thousands of people were killed by Leftists just for being Catholic in Mexico and Spain in the 1920s and 30s. We don't talk about the Armenian Genocide of the early 20th Century, in which Leftist Turks massacred thousands of Greek and Armenian Christians. Yep, there's a lot we don't talk about.

@Cowslippoetry Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Natives and Black Americans never shut the hell up about their past oppression despite being several generations removed from it. The fate of the natives was almost exclusively due to biology and terrible luck; yea, the spread of Old World diseases into the New World had terrible results, rendering them basically extinct, but that's the harsh reality of life. Pointing fingers at the inevitable is just pure cope. As for Asians, the only real oppression was suffered by Japanese Americans, who (incredibly) endured the mass internment with incredible resilience and managed to somehow assimilate without a hitch. Any other "minority" group whinging and moaning in the modern day about oppression is just riding the latest fad because being a victim is the hip and trendy thing to do now.

@hubertcumberdale2651 Жыл бұрын

@@Cowslippoetry "our country has never ...." is one of the biggest gaslighting statements imaginable.

@TheImmortalGenius Жыл бұрын

I have so much respect for the reporter for not letting the party leader just spew his denial

@jabbh7680 Жыл бұрын

Spew Truth*

@usdepartmentofthetreasury489 Жыл бұрын

That’s not a reporter. He’s a propagandist for ppl like you. He always interrupted the guy and was just saying a bunch of things when he’s the one interviewing not been interviewed. But that’s typical with leftists, they won’t tolerate you having another opinion. Commie bastards

@phthisis Жыл бұрын

What's disturbing about the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) is its similarities with America's current political landscape; a corrupt government that civilians don't trust, military personnel with political motivations, a conservative party that consisted largely of uneducated, illiterate citizens affected by propaganda, and the "cleansing" of left-leaning individuals and teachers. What's most striking, however, is this line from Wikipedia: "Many killings in the first few months were often done by vigilantes and civilian death squads, with the Nationalist leadership often condoning their actions or even assisting them."

@trartalacrem Жыл бұрын

You are wrong on one point: The second republic was not corrupted, much less then the previous regime, and was a very advanced social state with a big popular support. The people fought for the republic but they were no military and had outdated and insufficient weaponry and were facing a professional army with modern weaponry (see Guernica bombing with German bombers).

@onlyeuan2587 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@baronvonandroid3363There is nothing wrong with loving your country and culture. The line is crossed when you believe your country and culture are definitively superior to every other culture.

@psiocor7539 Жыл бұрын

>Conservative party consisted largely of uneducated, illiterate citizens. The "conservative party" (there were dozens of them, being the two most important the "Partido Radical" and a confederation of small parties, the CEDA) were mainly composed of the intellectual elite of the time, because, surprise, the middle and high classes were the ones who had access to higher education. Not only that, but the most educated party at the moment (before the Civil War started, as they were insignificant and only took off after it) was the literal fascist party, the Falange. They were severely mocked at (being called a poets club and all) because their main base of support (estimates of 60 % of all affiliates) were their university student syndicates, specially the Law and Philosophy Students Syndicate. The "uneducated and illiterate population" was the main supporter of the communist and socialist parties (not including here the leftist liberals), and specially of the anarchists, which were highly popular in the most impoverished agrary lands. Also, the "conservative party" (which later on supported the coup) in power through the middle period of the Republic implemented a higher budget for education than the previous leftist government, it also helped that they lifted the previous ban on religious schools which were the main educative institutions at the time. I don't really know why I had the urge to explain all this. But here it is.

@alenanga Жыл бұрын

Reminds me also of what's happening at Israel and Palestine

@ultrasuperkiller Жыл бұрын

Conservatives are illiterate and uneducated? Have you ever met a conservative?

@6sawa889 Жыл бұрын

Very one sided, depending of where the start of the war caught you were killed for some thing or other, my family was murdered by communists for not wanting to fight for them

@Walker733 8 ай бұрын

Hopefully you also interview people whose relatives were victims of the mass violence carried out by the Republican aide during the civil war especially by the communist and anarchist militants.

@cobalt_plated_eyeball Жыл бұрын

I would also get fired up interviewing a Falange politician, sending patience your way for your next one David.

@gamerdrew2761 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't an interview, it was a debate. Dishonest journalist set up an "interview" and didn't let the person they were interviewing fully answer a question before interrupting them and moving on to another topic. Glad vice news is going bankrupt.

@NinjaofNi9ht Жыл бұрын

Overshadowed a lot of Spanish history with that summary of the Spanish Civil War lol... totally didn't gloss over how "Everyone united against the Republicans and Conservatives", they all fought each other. It was one massive mess that Franco came out on top of.

@tcaprecap1448 Жыл бұрын

Now THAT is how you do an interview! Wow! If only all journalists were like this, the world would be a much better place. Interviewing the fascist was definitely worth it, because you didn't fall for any of his rhetorical tricks or disingenuous excuses and kept the heat turned up...no quarter, that's the only way to deal with fascists. Truly inspiring, thank you for the work you do!

@1533TodaVida Жыл бұрын

My grand father who caught for the Nationalists Army in the Spanish civil war when he was 18 he joined because Spanish Republican leftists communists killed his pastor because the leftists in the Spanish Republican regime accused Catholics, and Eve Angelic Christian’s of trying to restore the Monarchy, how are they gonna say that those communists were “Murdered” when they were at war? What, the nationalists can’t defend themselves in a war? So the communists are the only ones supposed to be doing the killing? Just to use to say the same bs they are saying in this Vice documentary?

@lanceroparaca1413 Жыл бұрын

Well, cause they were not killed in combat.

@1533TodaVida Жыл бұрын

@@lanceroparaca1413Oh really? They were not killed in “combat” then why would they say in 0:08 that they are digging up a Trench? Why would regular leftists civilians be in a trench in the middle of no where? Huh?

@1533TodaVida Жыл бұрын

⁠@@lanceroparaca1413 since they said they found the remains in a trench, then it was justifiable for them to be killed in COMBAT, Leftists have to rely on calling Franco a dictator because his soldiers killed Leftists in Combat just because your using that excuse does not justify to why you need to support a bunch of Leftists Anarchists that committed genocide against Catholics nuns pastors, and Eve Angelic Christian’s simply because one dictator wanted to over throw a democratically elected government that could’ve turned Spain into a Soviet State after the end of WWII, Communists leaders can be democratically elected too and turn the country into a dictatorship just like Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. If Franco never won that civil war, Spain wouldn’t be entering NATO in 1982 when the Soviet Union was still a alive.

@Scotto6977 Жыл бұрын

Scary how many people in this world want to move backwards instead of forwards

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

If by "forwards" you mean toward freedom, I agree.

@notscar Жыл бұрын

@@jeffzima9270 no by toward he means communism, where private property does not exist, if you are not rich you will not become rich, and neither your kids, where you own nothing, and where the governament owns you (which is kinda similar to what USA is nowadays).

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

@@notscar Thanks, that's how I understand it too. Would be nice if he told us himself for sure though.

@mrvalls Жыл бұрын

@@notscar The duly elected Republican government in Spain was not "Communist". When no other country came to their aid, including the USA who would not even sell them weapons, they turned to Stalin for help in fighting back an armed insurrection led by General Franco and the army. He was a Fascist whose dictatorship took all civil liberties, rights and freedoms away. That's the world the Falange Fascist Party wants to return to.

@alanchurch6673 3 ай бұрын

The Republican faction was as bad as the Nationalist faction in the Spaniard’s civil war when it came to executing people. Spain has pretty much been at peace since 1939, survived Franco and emerged as a successful democracy.

@Caudillo2008 12 сағат бұрын

The Republicans were bad, the Nationalists were good

@xispaster 7 ай бұрын

Red Terror (Spanish: Terror Rojo)[7] is the name given by historians to various acts of violence committed from 1936 until the end of the Spanish Civil War by sections of nearly all the leftist groups involved.[8][9] News of the rightist military coup in July 1936 unleashed a politicidal response, and no Republican controlled region escaped systematic and anticlerical violence, although it was minimal in the Basque Country.[10] The violence consisted of the killing of tens of thousands of people (including 6,832 Catholic priests, the vast majority in the summer of 1936 in the wake of the coup), attacks on the Spanish nobility, small business owners, industrialists, and politicians and supporters of the conservative parties or the anti-Stalinist Left, as well as the desecration and arson attacks against monasteries, convents, Catholic schools, and churches.[11] (Wiki.)

@MeemingStar 4 ай бұрын

Nationalist Spain and Franco weren’t fascist

@wingberry123 Жыл бұрын

At 97, the lady still has a very sharp memory. How impressive.

@otzpeda3860 Жыл бұрын

This politician is insanely ignorant... people like this are very dangerous for the world and their number is sadly rising...

@friendlybane Жыл бұрын

He is not ignorant. Everything he does is precisely calculated.

@otzpeda3860 Жыл бұрын

@@friendlybane okay I agree, but that makes him even more dangerous

@friendlybane Жыл бұрын

@@otzpeda3860 Agreed.

@jaylm4112 Жыл бұрын

Proud of my man for not playing with that fascists denier with kids gloves... Thanks I get enraged when ppl play with these ppl with kids gloves 10:30

@danhandel8256 Жыл бұрын

Fascists already have their platforms where they face no external criticism. We need major platforms like Vice to cover Fascists in a critical light that is not seen elsewhere fascism is talked about.

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

Like I've seem so many say in comments; who defines fascist and what is it's definition? All tyranny is horrible.

@bonefish3264 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffzima9270 fascism is defined by its external present characteristics we can observe with our eyes

@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын

Fas cism is dead and has not been a thing since the W W2. You people need to get a grip.

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

@@jeffzima9270Read the doctrine of fascism if you want to know what fascism is. I'd also recommend Jose Antonio's biography, fascism for the million, the fascist manifesto of 1919, anything by Giovanni Gentile, My rise and fall (Mussolini's full autobiography) is good, but it wouldn't be enough to teach someone what fascism is, Mussolini's intellectuals, the coming corporate state.

@Cauldron6 Жыл бұрын

I just came back from a month long trip to Spain where I had the absolute pleasure of seeing this beautiful country from North to south. I also took on the duty of learning about the terrible history of fascism it’s people suffered under and the deep scars are apparent, still. Let’s keep the victims of fascism in our hearts and may we never forget and never take for granted our rights and freedoms that the supporters of this ideology violently oppose. Continue to fight for freedom, beautiful people of Spain!

@macuma5533 Жыл бұрын

Nobody is fighting for that in this country

@dariomartinez459 Жыл бұрын

@@DescendingIntoChaos 'The margins of the "victory" were small and there were suspicions of fraud so it was not a mandate for overwhelming change but the communists separatists and anarquists were not exactly democratic and they pursued political killings,burning churches and monasteries and attacks on civilians so yes there was a provocation and a divided society. Madrid draped in giant murals of Stalin and Lenin is not exactly a signal of democracy as some would have the world believe. The polarisation was strong and the left had declared that should the right win they would rise up so either way a civil war was coming.

@lydszt7 Жыл бұрын

As a Spaniard myself, I have to tell you that while I'm glad you have a fondness for my country and unlike most other foreigners seek to understand it, you are not getting the full story, and I suspect you are aware of it. This short documentary does a good and necessary job at showing the aftermath of a civil war that tore our country apart and continues to do so to this day in many ways, because of how polarized and unstable our political system is. It is vital to understand truly why these events took place, and a lot of the most important information is either not talked about or outright censored. I can guarantee you this as I recently finished high school and some of the most important facts are barely mentioned in our history program, which is compulsory, but does nothing to educate us about our past. Yes, Franco's soldiers killed many people unjustly, and it's a great thing to give the victims closure after decades of repression. But what they won't tell you in documentaries like this or almost any other one regarding the Civil War, whether it's in English or in Spanish, is that the Republican (leftist) regime was extremely unstable and fraudulent, that it banned religion with the threat of death by firing squad to those who kept their Catholic faith, and that many leftist soldiers were notorious for destroying churches and abusing and killing nuns (you know the kind of abuse I'm talking about). The Republicans, whose best ally was the USSR, sent over 70% of our gold reserve to Moscow at the beginning of the war, and this gold, almost 500 tonnes, was never returned. Had the Communists won, had Fascism been defeated in the Civil War, do you think we would have done any better? Would it have been more honorable to live as an ally of the USSR, possibly even longer than what Franco's regime lasted, until the fall of the Soviet Union, and end up like other post-soviet countries in eastern Europe? Do you think the Communists were any more keen on Fascists than Fascists were on Communists? I hope you share the same animosity for far-left regimes than for fascists ones, because otherwise this is just a comfortable but ultimately morally corrupted stance to take, especially about a country which you barely even know about. And we aren't really succeeding in our fight for freedom, as you say. Our Socialist government is destroying us. We are hitting record low positions in so many areas of our society and economy compared to the rest of the EU, and it looks like it's only going to get worse. But hey, as long as our beaches and historical cities look pretty to the tourists, it's all good right? That way they come here, give us some money to delay the inevitable economic collapse, and buy into the mainstream narrative that does nothing to actually help us move forward. But it sure feels good to play the morally righteous part, doesn't it?

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

Fascists don't want to take away rights lol. The Fascist manifesto of 1919 literally calls for universal suffrage.

@ottovonbismark5083 7 ай бұрын

Bruh didn’t the republicans murder priests…?

@DogeickBateman Ай бұрын

More than just priests.

@Immigrantlovesamerica Жыл бұрын

You guys are acting like the communist party didnt literally commit the same murders to the same extent. It was a brutal civil war that devastated Spain. Pretending only one side did anything is just as dishonest as the fascist's denial in this video.

@tippylosojos Жыл бұрын

And people wonder why other regions of Spain want to be independent

@judylandry302 Жыл бұрын

Anyone who crosses his arms when being asked questions is on the defensive and lying, esp when their speech becomes rapid and voice goes into higher octaves. If they are standing, they'll shift their legs, to prepare to fight or more commonly to run.

@mileshill7196 Жыл бұрын

Pop-psychology. Body language experts arent really a thing.

@carlettesouthern-robert2992 Жыл бұрын

@mileshill7196 Oh yes they are; and, they had a field day analyzing Mussolini, AH, and Donald J. Trump.

@Dutcheh Жыл бұрын

@@carlettesouthern-robert2992 FBI special interrogators will tell you that it is not real. There is no physical tell when someone is lying. That has been disproven many times.

@Alaskan-Armadillo Жыл бұрын

@@mileshill7196Just because it doesn't fit your narrative doesn't mean you have to play the victim. Franco's dead and you lost now get over it or continue looking in the mirror wondering why you aren't happy.

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

All the body language you described also fits someone who is just uncomfortable. In this guy's case I think you are right though.

@TheNapoleonicCore Жыл бұрын

If the fascist has saw what Spain has become they would’ve been sad

@Made0nEarth Жыл бұрын

In Portugal the dictator "Salazar" was friend of "Franco" (they went in the university together) and the Portuguese's fight in the front line of the Spanish Civil War... it was a massacre! They walk against canons... the Portuguese's were slaves in this war! The soldiers used to say "You can't imagine the blood running down the streets and the smell..." even today when the wind blows from the Spanish side the Portuguese's say "the air is not good today, smells like dead". Thank God that Salazar and Franco both die in the 70s and the Iberian Peninsula got free again.

@annoneemoose Жыл бұрын

None of that is true. Franco and Salazar didn't know each other until Franco was head of state in Spain. Very few Portuguese fought in Spain, those that did were volunteers. Salazar was the best thing that happened to Portugal.

@Made0nEarth Жыл бұрын

@@annoneemoose Franco in university made one work called "how to invade Portugal in 3 days" that's why Salazar from is Classroom become friend (or better scared of him become false friend) do you know anything about history? Even the king of Spain went to university in Portugal! To run from that Fascists from Spain! Tell me the good things that append to the Portuguese that fight in the frontline for Franco??? They all come home without hands or legs!!! You are blind because you are a Fascist like Franco and Salazar!

@joaotomas9430 Жыл бұрын

@@annoneemooseThe best thing that happened to Portugal was the revolution of April. Long live captain Salgueiro Maia, the true portuguese patriot

@carlettesouthern-robert2992 Жыл бұрын

This is so sad! 😢 The cruelty of fascism is immeasurable wherever they take power. May the murdered men, women, and children finally have justice. 💔🕯💔

@davechristian7543 Жыл бұрын

You mean the cruelty of humans period....!

@ankhanh001 Жыл бұрын

but it's praised by so many people

@yakub3962 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about the cats and dogs that fascism killed! THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO!

@CASULL455 Жыл бұрын

Do you think communists and anarchists didnt commit massacres, given a chance?

@yakub3962 Жыл бұрын

@@CASULL455 they did commit genocide. They targeted us! That's why it's so rich of them to be seething about it like they're innocent. Notice how they say NOTHING about the genocides of Mao and Stalin, but cry about fascists all day long. The reason is quite simple: when they do it, we deserve it. Well, my message to communists is quite simple too: when we do it, you deserve it. And you will deserve it again, soon.

@marcgrauribas9811 Жыл бұрын

My history professor always said franco regime did not fall, it just died.

@electroyt5026 Жыл бұрын

It was continued by the Franco-Appointed monarchy. The current monarchy were good friends of Franco during the regime (the former king even "accidentally" killed his own brother using a gun that was gifted to him by Franco himself). A lot of the actions of the current monarchy also resemble (to a smaller, yet noticeable extent) Franco's regime, such as the imprisonment of political opposition, democratically elected officials being either imprisoned or exiled and called terrorists.. for holding elections... in a democracy.. imprisoning artists/singers for disrespecting the monarchy, and getting away with running away to foreign countries with millions of tax-payer dollars. Franco died, but his regime continued, and is still present today. It's just put hush-hush because nobody wants to admit that it's possible for a supposedly "civilized" European country could possibly be un-democratic.

@marinamunoz7117 Жыл бұрын

they had at the spot an Amnesty Law to prevent people to dig in thepast, that's why, by Law, they coulnd't imprison the ones wh did it, and now their sons and grandsons are the new fascism, VOX, and all those groups...

@naketo Жыл бұрын

Nationalism isn't fascism

@somerandommen Жыл бұрын

It's one step away from Fascism and you'll also get the upside down treatment...

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

@@somerandommenNationalism predates fascism by centuries. Fascism is nationalist; obviously, but it is not just generically "nationalist" it is revolutionary nationalist. This is the fascist conception of the nation as described in the doctrine of fascism: "Not a race, nor a geographically defined region, but a people historically perpetuating itself, unified by an idea and imbued with the will to live, the will to power, self-consciousness, personality." -The Doctrine of Fascism Jose Antonio Primo De Rivera also says the same thing: "The nation is not a geographical reality, nor a racial, nor a linguistic one; it is essentially a historical unity. An aggregation of men upon a piece of ground is only a nation in so far as it is a function of the universal, if it fulfills a destiny of it's own in history, a destiny which is not that of "the rest". "The rest" are always those by whom we tell that we are "one" in the common life which I share with men. I am he who is not any of others. In the universal common life each nation is that which none of the others is. Hence, nations are determined from without; they are distinguished from the environment amidst which they fulfill their own, and universal destiny. -Jose Antonio Primo De Rivera, F.E., 7-12-33

@somerandommen 11 ай бұрын

@@Death_4444 I'm aware. Fascism, like Nationalism, ensures collaboration between the classes domesitically under the pretext of a national in-group. The difference is Nationalism is almost always in support of the status quo of a nation, where as Fascism makes systemic critiques. It's one of the reasons that ex-Fascists almost always become Communists/Socialists, and ex-Nationalists become Liberals.

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

@@somerandommen Nationalism doesn't inherently ensure class collaboration, there are nationalists who believe in class warfare.

@somerandommen 11 ай бұрын

@@Death_4444 No. They're inherently incompatible ideas.

@nnexa4 Жыл бұрын

I loved how the journalist held that fascist's feet to the flame and called b*llshit on his lies. Good work.

@Jabarri74 Жыл бұрын

I love Vice and hope it can continue to create such unique content, tackling the issues MSM wont go near.

@yakovbrod9992 Жыл бұрын

you mean making stuff up?

@Erulilum Жыл бұрын

@@yakovbrod9992 How are you this disconnected from reality?

@yakovbrod9992 Жыл бұрын

@@Erulilum because I look stuff up unlike 99% of people out there. The marxists mass murdered people as well. Biased reporting is not mentioning this verifiable fact that you can google.

@ZKG754 Жыл бұрын

Well glad that vice is facing bankrupt 😂

@aaroncantu5763 Жыл бұрын

@@ZKG754bc they got bought out by HBO not shitty reporting. Sadly they were forced to do bullshit for HBO and now they can’t recover from the losses of that contract they were held to.

@DrumToTheBassWoop Жыл бұрын

11:44 it's true that maybe honouring the dead with his full name on the tombstone. It would alteast showed some compromise to the far right. In return it did not instigate protests, and they honour their leader with more decorum.

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

Well said. It's always better to figure out how to move forward uniting people under true freedom than to get caught up on one specific.

@SirAmicVarze Жыл бұрын

This sort of thing explains why you had so many people in a stadium who were very comfortable to do things like call Vini Jr a monkey.

@nomcognom2414 Жыл бұрын

Fascism is stronger than ever in Spain, but most won't even notice. Today's fascists are, 80% of them at least, posing as conservatives, liberals, and even leftists. They are Spanishspeaking ethnonationalists, still denying other nationalities and intent on eradicating them, which they are achieving, unfortunately. Only the Basques are managing to make some progress, because they were the only ones to achieve some real level of autonomy. But Spain has been harrassing and wrecking Catalonia systematically since 1978, when the Spanish constitution was introduced, just as before, only a lot more effectively. And the UE keeps looking the other way, in just another manifestation of democracies rotting away.

@wowmazin4399 Жыл бұрын

This is the Spanish Civil War. Whoever won would have their reign of terror last longer since both sides massacred people. Luckily, the Francoists won since Spain wouldn't have become a stalinist puppet in the face of the cold war. Franco was not dumb and couldn't be considered a traditional fascist. He is a francoist, aka pragmatic. He was able to unite the Spanish right against the fractured spanish Left and prevented a Soviet puppet state just south of France's border. Franco's early economic policies followed falangism, Spain's own version of fascism (which had a more agrarian and anti-capitalist spin than normal fascism due to Spain's cultural values). However, this did not work and Franco's later economic policies could be described as technocratic. Combined with Franco's decision not to enter WW2 and his buddying up with the allies, Franco spared his people from further war. Franco was a pragmatic dictator who put practicality above any political ideology.

@xxmany1 Жыл бұрын

Please next do a video on the victims of the red terror in Spain since it seems that nobody is covering that topic.

@christopherpoole2185 Жыл бұрын

Yeh, don’t see many vice reporters opening with “you defend and deny the horrors of communism and Marxism to far left leaders” terrible interview. Didn’t want to understand anything, just go in for a fight like 5 year old 🙄

@isabellacatolica5594 Жыл бұрын

A qu3mar Iglesias/ elizak err3tzera!!!!!!

@Moodboard39 Жыл бұрын

@@christopherpoole2185debate

@joshbarker4953 Жыл бұрын

Seems conservatives are the same, no matter where you go 🤮🤮

@critex123 Жыл бұрын

Unlike comunists, who have not killed anyone, ever.

@bluerobe1 Жыл бұрын

no thats wrong there are so many colors in uk mostly brown nowadays 😂😂😂

@bmer92k86 Жыл бұрын

Yeah and they won in the end against the communists and degenerates says alot about your future tread carefully

@joshbarker4953 Жыл бұрын

@@Answersonapostcard They tried to commit a violent coup in the US, how do you think it would have ended if they won? Mark Levin “democrats must be eradicated” Tucker, Carlson “Democrats are true evil”. Mom for liberty has been flagged as a racial hate group. I can go on for hours. If this is traditional values then we need to do away with tradition permanently

@bmer92k86 Жыл бұрын

@@Answersonapostcard its what people on his side of spectrum do. It leads to situations like the spanish civil war because its easier to fight then have civil discourse

@GiveMeCoffee Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video, Spain needs more than ever to "remember" what is has chosen to ignore and to be taught about the hypocrisy and barbarie.

@derpestarzt Жыл бұрын

more than ever bc of the authoritarian Pedro Sanchez government?

@abigailhartshorn4855 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, as an Spanish person I was suffering hearing the leader of the fascist party talking. I feel disgusted by his words.

@asturiasceltic3183 Жыл бұрын

I couldn't stand him either and with his close minded body language with his arms wrapped around himself. Tells you everything about the Fascists.

@mitchyoung93 Жыл бұрын

The 'Republicans' killed hundreds if not thousands of Catholic priests and nuns. This was payback.

@lanceroparaca1413 Жыл бұрын

Such great Catholics, no doubt 😂

@asturiasceltic3183 Жыл бұрын

Are you joking???? The Church had children raped to death and murdered. I am glad the Republic sought revenge for what the Church and Fascists did and are known to do to innocent children. Everyone hates that Catholic Church now because their crimes have come to light.

@clericaltotalitarian Жыл бұрын

@@asturiasceltic3183 I am glad Franco dealt with republitards like you the way he did, a true Hero.

@polrius9395 Жыл бұрын

I'm a spanish historian, and this video is nice, because in it you can clearly see that the civil war is still "going on" nowadays. We hadn't cure our collective pain yet, and we're still arguing the little aspects of the war, about who's responsability is the war. This happens not only in political parties, but also in the historians community, eventhought we are all supose to pursue the objectivity of history. What a shame of country. What a shame that the democracy came by a passive revolution where people from the regime stablish the constitution (by the way, we hadn't uploaded it yet eventhought it's from 1979) and didn't judge Franco's crimes, as well as it's a shame that the left wing parties didn't assume yet they did damage as well (it's a civil war!). We have to move foward, but assuming we cannot keep dennying other people's pain. Their feelings are as legitime as yours.

@femarlom 11 ай бұрын

And the skeletons of Spain´s Comunist past?. I´m waiting. Thank you.

@wadedavies3924 Жыл бұрын

Spain is an example of a nation that was successful in purging itself of communism. Viva Espana! Viva Generalissimo Franco!

@Khemith_Demon_Hours Жыл бұрын

Yeah you just had to kill millions of people and bury them in secret graves. You fascists always point to communists but you always end up murdering millions and creating nothing special.

@Dan_Breen Жыл бұрын

@@Khemith_Demon_Hours millions? lmao

@facts2676 Жыл бұрын

@@Khemith_Demon_Hoursmillions? lmaooo

@asturiasceltic3183 Жыл бұрын

Uh huh, you do realize the Spanish Civil War was a fight for democracy and human rights. Every time someone mentions communism, I know they dont know their ash from a hole in the ground about the Spanish Civil War.

@IndependentVictor Жыл бұрын

Also, saying Falange and Franquismo are the same guys is just a complete false statement. In fact Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera was killed in the Spanish Civil War, and it is known that Franco hated him

@lanceroparaca1413 Жыл бұрын

Just like saying all Republicans were communists

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

This.

@jmc3461 Жыл бұрын

When I was living in Madrid in the Spring there was a Falangista rally right behind my apartment... sickens me how little has been done to reconcile with the past

@unusualbug1113 Жыл бұрын

I mean falangists and francoists aren't the same. Many falangists don't like franco

@clericaltotalitarian Жыл бұрын

Looks like another Falangist W.

@plainlake Жыл бұрын

This really show the impressiveness of how Germany have been able to confront their shared past.

@firstpersonfeelings5479 Жыл бұрын

Spain handled it way better than Germany, in every sense. But whatever

@Alaskan-Armadillo Жыл бұрын

@@firstpersonfeelings5479Cope harder baby boy 😅 If Spain truly recovered then Catalonia, Galecia, and Euskeria would all be independent.

@firstpersonfeelings5479 Жыл бұрын

@@Alaskan-Armadillo You don't even know how to write the places you are mentioning, imagine the rest.

@ConradNeill Жыл бұрын

@@firstpersonfeelings5479 Yes, pretending something didn't happen is always the better option. Learning from the mistakes of the past benefits nobody. /s

@firstpersonfeelings5479 Жыл бұрын

@@ConradNeill What are you saying. Spain went through a Civil War where 50% of the population faced the other 50%. All Spanish people have one grand-grandparent killed by one side and one grand-grandparent killed by the other. It isn't about pretending nothing happened, it is moving on from a wound that no longer can be healed and learning through forgiveness, that's why Spain is one of the few countries that had a peaceful transition from a regime to a democracy. Don't speak about what you don't know, much less when you are speaking about such grievous things.

@jorgepalacio6910 9 ай бұрын

¡Duro contra los comunistas! ¡Viva la hispanidad y viva cristo! Saludos desde México.

@NoddNup Жыл бұрын

It’s these documentary drops that I get notified of at the worst times, so my “too watch documentaries “ is now huge and ima spend today watching em. Lol

@davechristian7543 Жыл бұрын

well i watch all mine ones when i get up n all day when ever i want but then again i can bc i live in the lucky country n i dont have to go to the salt mines every day or 5 days a week but just relax n do as i please my child.

@Andres_1970 Жыл бұрын

"Spain's fascist past" ? ... Fascist Future, I'm afraid.

@firstpersonfeelings5479 Жыл бұрын

We already have a fascist president. Maybe soon we will move on from him

@youngmasterzhi Жыл бұрын

Unfun fact: In 1940, Francisco Franco changed Spain’s time zone by one hour forward, so it could match up with the time zone of his Nazi Germany allies. It still hasn’t switched back to the original Greenwich time for over 8 decades.

@eficaciousmig47 Жыл бұрын

Tbh apart from politics, this timezone has been useful for me in the past, as it is closer with other parts of europe

@evs251 Жыл бұрын

What a biased reporter. No matter if he's wrong or right, you should at least let the person you're interviewing answer the questions presented to him. That was a really tough watch

@jeffzima9270 Жыл бұрын

Very well said. No doubt this guy does support tyranny, but let him say it himself. It's far more convincing to people.

@SadieMirsade Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what Communists did at the end of WW2! Eastern Europe is full of these death pits; but since the progeny of the former Communists still run the countries, it’s very unlikely we’ll ever know the full extent of their butchery. My grandfather was held and tortured in a concentration camp, run by Hitler’s collaborators, managed to get out, barely alive, and then butchered by the Communists.

@dizzydabz6905 Жыл бұрын

the politician is sus af.

@tomfulfaro1943 10 ай бұрын

You lost me at "Democratically elected Republic" You mean the one funded by Josef Stalin? A known lover of democracy and free speech!

@duhni4551 Жыл бұрын

People should remember that it was not that long ago when Europe was full of wars, terrorism and dictatorships on top of other horrors. Funny how it takes about 30 years for people to forget everything, even when most of today's people lived through those times. There is a real worry behind political polarisation, all that horror begins from that. We should start to remind our selves what unites us and on what we can agree with, then start building on those things, that is the only way Europe stays safe place to live in.

@DutchFlavour Жыл бұрын

Good that you guys from Vice put these things into the light. It's heartbreaking to see what happens during the wars...

@jimm6095 Жыл бұрын

These are the graves of those killed in battle during the Spanish civil war not the "disappeared"!

@mrvalls Жыл бұрын

Not accurate. Many of them were civilians living in towns. As the 97 year old woman said, someone wanted her father's job and went to the authorities and denounced her father as a "Communist". There was no due process or trial, people were rounded up and shot the next day just based on one person's accusation. To be fair, the same thing was happening in the areas controlled by the Republicans. My mother, a 20 year old living in Valencia, saw many people "accused" of being Franquistas by neighbors with grudges taken out and also shot at dawn. Yes, it is fair to call these people "disappeared" if they were buried in trenches with no records or identification.

@matthewberger1232 Жыл бұрын

Spain's fascist past is very much alive and relevant in Madrid today. Having spent the last few years in the Arguelles, Moncloa, and Chamberi areas of Madrid, you don't have to look very hard to find remnants of fascism. The most notable example would be the 'Arco de la Victoria' in Moncloa that was introduced post-war by Franco to commemorate the Fascists' victory in the Siege of Madrid. It sits in one of the busiest parts of the city, directly adjacent to the Air Force headquarters and just down the road from the Prime Minister's residence. Its been almost 50 years since Spain returned to Democracy, but these reminders of the past are hidden in plain sight.

@davidprietogomez7254 Жыл бұрын

Should we destroy it and put a BLM or LGTB flag instead? Maybe a statue of Stalin?

@vanilaoryza Жыл бұрын

Typical guiri Who knows how Life was With Franco

@florianbirnbaum6584 Жыл бұрын

@@vanilaoryzaGuiris know everything. That's why they have to export their culture as the new universal cultural norm.

@vanilaoryza Жыл бұрын

I prefer a fascist country where spanish could have a home, a car and a family than a "democracy" that gives money to the morrocans to fund four children Who Will become future "neofrenchs"

@lauraolap9921 Жыл бұрын

So we do what exactly, destroy It and pretend It didn't happen? We are not kin on destroying historical sites, even the bad ones are part of our history, also don't forget this was a civil war, no matter what side you took, most casualties were civilians, so they deserve to be remembered no matter what happened, in my family i have deads on both sides, and probably both killed people on the opposite side, this is not about the good and the Evil.

@MojaKravica1985 10 ай бұрын

very unprofessional

@danielkim4126 Жыл бұрын

Wen red terror graves ?

@Khemith_Demon_Hours Жыл бұрын

Whatabout from a fascist.

@danielyounker5371 Жыл бұрын

Franco acted in self-defense against the genocidal Communists.

@lanceroparaca1413 Жыл бұрын

Self defense while being outside of continental Spain? My ass.

@RealConstantinusMagnus 6 ай бұрын

@@lanceroparaca1413he was exiled there for opposing the leftist government.

@Trad_Monarch27 Жыл бұрын

Viva Cristo Rey, Arriba Espana, adelante espana!! 🇪🇸✝️🙋🏻

@Jarmint Жыл бұрын

Viva Cristo Rey, Arriba Espana! ✝🙋🏻 Respect from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮♥ 🇪🇸

@silly1885 Жыл бұрын

Thus always to tyrants

@savageryflyer5391 Жыл бұрын

Can we search the hundreds of monks, nuns monasteries et burnt and killed by the "non fascist" please? Thanks

@somerandommen Жыл бұрын

Stay mad, Francoid! Glory to the Republicanos!

@savageryflyer5391 Жыл бұрын

@@somerandommen I will never defend someone that was a dictatorship and killed innocent people for nothing though, I am a bit smarter than you are and even though I shame those f**** fascists I also see the big picture. What is it you may ask little monkey... Well, i also condemned those bastards that killed innocent religious people, innocents that just supported the dictatorship ( you know, because someone is on war doesn't mean you can kill their families). But I guess that's too much to think for a braindead left extremist.

@lanceroparaca1413 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when you accept the murderous side of the Fascists.

@clericaltotalitarian Жыл бұрын

@@somerandommen Lol cope, you lost, now get in pit!

@Death_4444 11 ай бұрын

@@somerandommenFuck Franco, viva falangism.

@NikoChristianWallenberg Жыл бұрын

Unsurprisingly, many edgy kids creeping around the internet from their nest at /pol/ are big fanboys of Franco.

@Jarmint Жыл бұрын

There are many edgy kids on the other side who are big fans of the socialist Republicans and CNT-FAI as well. But of course they're different cus the socialists are the good guys right!?!?!?

@somerandommen Жыл бұрын

@Jarmint Yes, Anarcho-Socialists believe in liberation and freedom (good things. Fascists believe in repression and class collaboration (bad things)

@holgere. Жыл бұрын

Great documentary! This pact of silence preserved the peace in society after Franco's death but it also prevented justice and criminal prosecution of the perpetrators. The past will keep haunting Spain.

@eedragonr Жыл бұрын

Like Guernica?

@dariomartinez459 Жыл бұрын

Like Santiago Carrillo etc?

@dariomartinez459 Жыл бұрын

@@eedragonr And Cabra which none of these Guiris even know about!

@blasalvice Жыл бұрын

In the 20th century in Europe, fascism = catholic far-right Today, as much as the word is tortured and misunderstood, I'm convinced that being anti-fascist is a basic humanistic value.

@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын

Fas cism had nothing to do with right wing of any kind.

@pqunit Жыл бұрын

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. You should try reading about 20th Century history

@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын

@@pqunit : Already have, hence why I'm here.

@pqunit Жыл бұрын

@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Then why the laughable claim ? Just trolling ?

@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Жыл бұрын

@@pqunit : It's called a historical fact. It's not a claim.

@antoniomuzzetto6194 Жыл бұрын

to be a little impartial one should ask questions and not accuse the phalangist right-wingers... then I don't believe that the communists, like the fascists, didn't commit crimes. if the communists had won we would be here talking about their repression of the defeated.