the smartest punt you will ever see

one of the most unique football plays I've ever seen #forthebrand
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[@puravshah9615]

FYI. They clarified a bit after the play, the ref in the booth misspoke, its only illegal to kick the ball again if the ball has gone past the line of scrimmage, which it did not. But, he still should not have been able to kick it because it looks like he kicked it after crossing the line of scrimmage by about a yard, but the refs say his heel was on the line.

[@HighlightHeaven]

he may have gone past but it was hard to tell because FOX took away the imaginary line of scrimmage on the broadcast

[@take1835]

@@HighlightHeaven rip imaginary line 😢

[@ShOoTeR7386]

@@HighlightHeaven I can't type. I've never seen it before idc. That was hilarious. Knew you be on it like fly on shit lol.

[@naklovesjesus3204]

@@HighlightHeaven Still think the Renfrow play was the best this week 🧐❓ Lol

[@ericispoor7951]

@@naklovesjesus3204 renfrow was last week

[@vancecoyner4035]

Our defense may be terrible, our offense inconsistent, and our coaching atrocious. But boy do we have a good punter!

[@billsclintonsmafia5966]

Haha. Relatable except our offense is atrocious and defense average.

[@kinds6007]

Bengal mentality

[@brendandes7094]

@@billsclintonsmafia5966 Steelers defense is elite bro what

[@asecretone]

A punter so nice he kicks it twice!

[@billsclintonsmafia5966]

@@brendandes7094 13th in points, 19th in passing, 11th in rushing 16th in total. What's elite about it?

[@freedomxd2733]

Punter - hit a double kick Nfl- this punter needs to be drug tested 😤

[@JeffO-]

'Random' test coming tomorrow.

[@espben360]

Exactly, and the way he chased after it full flight and scoped it with 1 hand like it was nothing!!

[@connorhughes7390]

@@espben360 it's an Ozzy thing

[@XxBeamerr]

Mid game “random” drug test

[@rhettromney4658]

Pat gonna have a word with this punter no doubt

[@djones2170]

I don't think he's getting enough credit for that one handed scoop, he pulled that off almost flawlessly

[@5x9bob53]

Dude, when I saw that I was like "look at that scoop", just like a graceful runningback!

[@itsglen9646]

I think he played Australian rules in the past.

[@Lnch4ALion]

AFL skills

[@andrewsmith7543]

That scoop plus the Seahawks uniforms had me thinking I was watching another country's sport

[@CatchMeUp]

@@5x9bob53 Both skills he's shown are routine plays in Australian Rules. But an American ball is hard to kick.

[@dgjdub7]

Mike Pereira has one job, to know the rules. He fumbled that one.

[@mrmediorceman288]

This is the comment I was looking for. Guys an idiot.

[@LegendoftheDragonSword]

They just changed the rule this year. It is his job, but for Pete's sake, there's been so many rule changes the last 30 years it's crazy. Guys are passing for twice as much yardage and it's not because they're better, it's because they don't get injured and log twice the attempts. Joe Montana had 5,391 career attempts. Tom Brady has 10,782 and counting.

[@kurtd9231]

@@LegendoftheDragonSword The fact that the rule was changed this year is all the more reason he should have known about it.

[@sgtelias2258]

@@mrmediorceman288 Seems he is on the wrong side most of the time... can't understand why he's the media ref

[@stevenagele9373]

Pereira is like a weather forecaster. he's only right half the time

[@Kuhndog94]

I don't know what's more impressive... the blocked punt, the one handed scoop, the 2nd punt, or the blockers regrouping and forming a wall like it's a screen play.

[@Gowiegowa]

He used to be an Aussie rules player, they do scoop up balls at a full sprint often

[@CannibalOX99]

And the fact that the play stood. Awesome mate

[@KBMaximus]

That scoop was disgusting.

[@Funwithhighnotes]

Yeah the entire team was on point but that one handed scoop up was amazing.

[@zacharywagner1708]

That one handed scoop was one of the best in the history of the NFL

[@ddmagic5566]

Lol I can’t believe this punt ended up being really good🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@ifyoudontworkyoudonteat7644]

@Uno_Card9 I can’t believe he attempted to kick it again 🤣🤣🤣

[@chrisborjaspiegel]

hes australian dont be too suprised ...

[@moistie]

He grew up playing Aussie Rules where it isn't uncommon for your kick to be smothered. He had a ton of time and space once he picked it up so the second kick was an easy one for him.

[@calvincalvin3132]

@@ifyoudontworkyoudonteat7644 i can't believe he scooped that ball up so smoothly

[@АмериканецвРоссии-и4б]

It helped that nobody was expecting the second kick, there was no one to return it so he could just kick for maximum distance without worrying about hang time.

[@BidxFs]

I love how every single announcer was negative about the punt.

[@PRIZOOMY]

I don’t. I was pissed. No appreciation for an amazing play.

[@VoodooDangerbird]

Joe Sucks Troy Acheman

[@stashphl5348]

Because it was illegal. He kicked it beyond the scrimmage line.

[@stashphl5348]

It was a nice punt but come on.. the ref was standing 2 feet from him when he kicked it beyond the line.

[@omar1s1]

Well it was illegal, duh.

[@leogetz3570]

For everyone that's confused, it wasn't the double punt he was flagged for. He was flagged for crossing the line of scrimmage before punting it a second time, but after discussion, they determined his entire body had not crossed the line of scrimmage. Much like a forward pass rule. But let's not gloss over that one handed scoop and run!!

[@sbcxatomic9639]

Ik im 6 months late but omg people failed to realize how hard it is to scoop a football that fast with one hand

[@cnelsonlv99]

I've always suspected that Mike didn't know the rulebook as well as he should, given his position and role as "officiating expert." This one confirms it.

[@thelastmanonearth2631]

Yep. "Expert" just means "moron with more hubris than sense" in 2021.

[@kadenpowell6606]

He was a good ass ref, and knows his shit this is just an odd ass scenario.

[@kokoken1]

Sorry, Apoc, I don't buy that. Mike Pereira can officiate circles around you and 99.999% of the lay viewers. This is just the most bizarre play of this season, maybe the past 10. Have you ever SEEN an NFL rulebook? Download it sometime. It reads like the freakin' tax code.

[@dynasty5053]

Mike is just the "cover up guy". He covers up the rigged calls and tries to sell you the BS to make it make sense.

[@BB1-l2k]

Exactly. Never understood the point of this dufus's job. "Rules Expert"?.... Most of the hardcore fans know the rules better than Mike 'douchebag' Pereira.

[@Animal_Channel]

Going down as one of the greatest punts in nfl history. 200 IQ play.

[@michaelwainscott2633]

The punter knew the rules, but the broadcast announcers & referee in the booth did not. It only looks genius to idiots who don't know the rules. Not once did the Thursday night football booth question whether the punter's position was behind the line of scrimmage at the time of the second kick. It's kind of embarrassing that the ref in the booth didn't know, either.

[@ShaunHensley]

punter just didn't want to get killed

[@technomage6736]

Honestly not even high IQ, more like natural instinct to just pick it up and kick it again 🤷‍♂️

[@FoCuSsports]

not rly, he jsut kicked it again lol

[@RCT1963]

But a standard play in Australian Rules. I know, this has happened to me many times. It’s called ‘smothering’ in Aussie Rules vernacular.

[@stonewallpi1]

That's the Australian Rules experience coming out in this young man to get this punt off!

[@bobbybob20]

If he was American he would have thrown it to the wide open receiver

[@CubsWin2012]

@@bobbybob20 And gotten it called back for illegal receivers downfield. His only other option was to run, not pass.

[@DaChad90]

Should've sold the dummy as well! Haha

[@mattevans1643]

@@bobbybob20 after attempting to punt, the punter can no longer pass to a reciever. The original play was a punt, so anything that happens after that has to be a punt, or a scramble. It's the same as getting a field goal blocked and then trying to pass it if you recovered it.

[@Mannydude96]

@@mattevans1643 Football rules for the younguns

[@Grievous_]

This was one of the weirdest plays ive ever seen lol, and what makes it even better is it actually stood

[@bman6198]

@harout k Idk man his back heel looks to pretty much be ON the line of scrimmage at 0:08

[@isatuck5079]

@harout k it’s really close man, that’s all I can say, that could have gone either way

[@TwistedF-bc7cp]

@harout k You know damn well if it was your team....you'd say it was the right call.

[@mikebraithwaite6537]

i'm so glad every network has a "Rules Expert" that also doesnt know the rules.. great work. totally worth the millions they are paying you up there to come on the broadcast.

[@dyslexiclemons8464]

Millions?…

[@fuckthevaccine2160]

@@dyslexiclemons8464 yes millions. Are you slow?

[@dyslexiclemons8464]

@@fuckthevaccine2160 slow?…

[@RickyPro888]

@@fuckthevaccine2160 a bit rude mate, he just asked Also your username is so cringe it’s hard to comprehend

[@mikesul16]

@@RickyPro888 agreed lmao.

[@martinclifford9544]

Even if he was beyond the LOS, it was still a smart play, as the resultant penalty would've resulted in a re-kick, which would've been better than him getting tackled

[@cronicscream]

A point everyone else here seems to have missed.

[@reggieledeux8591]

That’s a loss of down penalty I believe, at least when it comes to passing beyond the line of scrimmage it is

[@terracottapie]

"You can't kick the ball a second time if you're ahead of the line of scrimmage." "OK, what's the penalty?" "Kicking it a third time"

[@RyukyuStyle]

@@terracottapie lmfao! why is the nfl so ridiculous... man i swear.

[@xSnuqqie]

Pat McAfee is gonna have a blast talking about this tomorrow on the show lol

[@Dirtbag_Deluxe]

Yeah I hope he talks about the fact that the ref on the air said that they made the change to the rule this year that you can't punt the ball twice even if you are still behind the line of scrimmage and somehow the refs let Seattle get away with it anyhow lol

[@randallwilliam5990]

@@Dirtbag_Deluxe It's not an illegal kick. Rule 9 shows it was a valid kick since the ball didn't cross the line of scrimmage before hitting the ground in the first kick.

[@peterwest9502]

@@Dirtbag_Deluxe The guy in the booth was wrong about that.

[@mattevans1643]

@@Dirtbag_Deluxe you can still kick the ball a second time. As long as it doesn't pass the line of scrimmage. The guy in the booth needs to use his Google machine, to find these rules. Takes all of 10 seconds to get the facts. As for the punt, the ball may have crossed the line of scrimmage, but when the punt happened, Dickson was still behind the line of scrimmage, so therfore the ball was not passed the line of scrimmage. Similar to that Mahomes throw where his toes were still on the line, so it wasn't an illegal forward pass. In the NFL exceptions are made up on the spot, because the play is too good to not stand.

[@yungrappersofoblock]

He said sum on Friday night smackdown

[@virusts]

One of those times where having an Australian rules football player as your punter really worked out.

[@calebsmith9773]

For us that kind of kick is pretty normal 😂

[@jeremybrown9611]

Oh nice

[@cyancyclone5642]

As someone from Australia who watches NFL, this immediately came to mind, looks exactly like Australian football

[@alexjones9038]

aussie aussie aussie!

[@cyancyclone5642]

@@alexjones9038 Oi Oi Oi!

[@slymecookies4482]

The refs were just like, f it we aint dealing with that one, call it good...

[@SerlingPictures]

"Chuck, is this good or nah?" "Shit, Steve. I've got no clue." "Where's the rule book?" *checks pockets* "Damn. Left it upstairs on top the microwave." "God damn, Chuck. Let's just call it good. Fuck it."

[@ztjaenisch]

No....they followed the rules.

[@Matt-wg9xn]

Lol at the confidence Mike said "you can't do that"

[@maxshiraz3447]

For AFL fans, that pickup and snap around the corner had Stevie J written all over it

[@jfmahler]

Props to the refs for knowing not just this rule, but so many other rules that you don’t see every year.

[@LunaticTheCat]

Well they are getting paid over $200,000 a year, so I would expect them to know all the obscure rules.

[@sheepdawwg]

@@LunaticTheCat right ! Give me the NFL rule book and 200 grand and I’ll memorize that bitch

[@brycetinkham9836]

these refs literally got this play wrong lol what are you talking about. You can literally hear the “officiating expert” say that the call was wrong and should be a 10 yard penalty

[@canilogin1730]

@@brycetinkham9836 No, the rulebook interpretation is final (the referee), which turns out to be correct. 9-1-1-Note 3: "A second kick from behind the line of scrimmage is legal provided the ball has not crossed the line." The editorial changed he was talking about was "For a second kick from behind the line after the ball has crossed the line: Loss of 10 yards from the previous spot." But again, it didn't cross the line of scrimmage.

[@bmoose566]

@@brycetinkham9836 The ref is actually the one correct.. read the rulebook.. Mike Pereira misspoke or didn't understand the rule himself.. he is not a know all lol

[@ShOoTeR7386]

Lol. That was something I probably never will see ever again. And the fact the play stuck. 68 yard double punt. I'm still chuckling about that double punt punch 🙈🤣

[@INJURYCOMP]

Punter was a yard beyond the Line of Scrimmage. Period.

[@TheTruthSeeker756]

For his stats did they add an extra punt I wonder?

[@TwistedF-bc7cp]

@@INJURYCOMP OH well. Refs called no foul. Live with it. No point in trying too change something you can't. Period

[@wavemode69]

@@INJURYCOMP LoS was at 21 and his heel was on the 21 when he kicked

[@aidanisachair]

That was the most entertaining football play I've seen in a long fucking time holy shit

[@thomasmckenzie4584]

You should watch a CFL game. This kinda stuff happens all the time.

[@TeakySnee]

Watch AFL highlights thats Michael Dickson's origins

[@long2d]

Watch rugby hahaha perfect mix of running hard tackling hard kicking and passing and nonstop not this stop every 5 seconds bs

[@iankearns774]

@@long2d Dickson played Aussie Rules mate but I suppose it could be a kick by an NRL player on the last tackle.

[@mushrooka]

@@GundamGokuTV where does it say that?

[@bc5208]

Can we appreciate how cleanly he scooped that up with one hand while sprinting full speed before kicking it again?! Smooth AF.

[@billanthony8230]

You should watch AFL footy mate :P

[@dusk1673]

@@billanthony8230 don’t show him real sports he might commit suicide

[@barrybr1]

Michael Dickson's highlight reel is gonna be pretty impressive when he hangs up the boots. That run from inside his own end zone a couple of years ago to get the first down and ice the game against Detroit (I think) was another great moment. Don't hate on me for saying this but there are many aspects of Aussie Rules football, as well as Rugby League and Rugby Union, that NFL coaches could benefit from...... tackling and wrapping the arms around the player being the first that comes to mind..... so many shit efforts that don't get much of a mention in commentary.

[@danielwhite5997]

The cool thing is even if it were a penalty, it still would have been the right thing to do. They would have accepted the penalty, and there would have been another punt (unless it's a loss of down, which I don't believe it is). Another punt still would have been better than losing possession right there.

[@Greyhoundclash]

I think with stuff like this they wouldn't get another punt. I'm not entirely sure tho. I think if it was a penalty it would just get enforced with yardage and the other teams ball. Idk the rule tho so you could be right.

[@TS-qd9hx]

@@Greyhoundclash it's not a loss of down penalty, so it would have been enforced from the spot of the kick, and been 4th down at their 11 yd line wihh another shot to punt. Super headsy play

[@valjohnson7112]

Yeah seems like a pretty dumb rule if that had been the case. Committing a penalty should never benefit you IMO.

[@Greyhoundclash]

@@TS-qd9hx You could be right like I said I have no idea. Like Val said it would seem kind of dumb that committing a penalty would benefit you but if what you said is the case then it definitely is a very smart heads up play

[@TS-qd9hx]

@@Greyhoundclash It's a super rare thing. But the NFL doesn't deem what he did (even if he passed the LOS) to technically be "illegal kicking," which does carry with it a loss of down. I'm not sure exactly what they call it, as I've not seen the ruling, and the book doesn't clarify, but it's just a 10 yd penalty. I guess if you can get it off twice they deem that good enough to earn another shot at it lol I imagine most second punts get blocked and the defense happily declines the penalty

[@derpmcgerp8062]

Pat McAfee probably hype af after that play lol

[@spartacus778]

it'll definitely be talked about for at least a minute tomorrow on the show

[@ryanking9884]

He jumped into a twitter space right after it happened

[@notsopaul3042]

Didn't he do a similar play where the center overthrew it and he had to grab it and then kick it

[@colten4333]

He picked it up at the 10 yard line and kicked it to the other 10 yard line! 80 yard change in field position. What an unbelievable play

[@dinkstover8606]

People said Pete Carrol was crazy to draft M. Dickson in the third round, but I saw him kick for Texas and knew it was a brilliant choice.

[@maxkarnatz3062]

He punted from the 20.

[@NorthSwing]

@@maxkarnatz3062 Yeah you dillhead

[@dalebuck2466]

He punted from the 22 he was past the line of scrimmage when he kicked it

[@jcarson3721]

@@dalebuck2466 If the Rams recovered the ball after it was blocked they would have had it at the 10 yard line. Instead they have it at their own 10. That's 80 yards.

[@goodmaro]

The real star of this play was the wing official on the far sideline. Watch the play from the beginning. You see him move 3 yards downfield at the snap, to watch for ineligibles downfield before the punt. He's defining the expanded neutral zone which the ineligibles can't move beyond. Then when the ball is punted and blocked, he *moves back* to the original neutral zone, because *he knows a forward pass or kick might come into play -- and it does!* He's in perfect position to rule on it.

[@PrinceRN]

Well done!

[@MAJ0ROCEL0T]

I like how Joe Buck waits for Aikman to say "that's coming back" and then IMMEDIATELY just says the exact same thing. Excellent commentary yet again Joe

[@DaveLL500]

Buck is a human echo chamber but with less personality.

[@sludge4125]

And they were both WRONG!!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@matthewespindola]

Lmfao dude I know, I was hoping someone else in the comments mentioned this.

[@billt8504]

One of my Simpsons bits: First guy: do you know what this means? Second guy: what do you think it means? First guy: Second guy: that's what I was thinking.

[@RB-mw9qm]

“Addition to the rule this year” aka they didn’t know what they were taking about 5 seconds ago

[@jraymond1988]

I'm more impressed by that one handed scoop. Especially with all of the times you see lineman dive on the ball and it squirt out like a greased up deaf guy.

[@cooperlorraine6298]

The dude was a pro-AFL player for a bit before coming to the NFL. Being able to scoop the ball off the ground like that is a necessary skill in AFL

[@Siix8five]

@@cooperlorraine6298 Jody barret might wanna have a word with you

[@wakeruncollapse]

you’re never gonna catch me

[@startard03]

I think they use new footballs when punt or kick, but could be wrong

[@michaelhall5429]

Why deaf?

[@Im_Ish]

Can't wait for McAfee to react to this one.

[@JohnPritzlaff]

Facts.

[@bigFATloser29]

For the brand

[@travispreble]

My first thought.

[@DaveLL500]

Aikman: "Well, that's comin' back" Buck [Dimwit Echo]: "That's comin' back." Mikey Rule Books: "No, you can't kick it again." Aussie Rules Dixon: "... Hold my Fosters, mates."

[@bluerblue4068]

No one drinks fosters in Australia it's garbage in fact I can't remember the last time I even saw it in the bottle-o

[@DaveLL500]

@@bluerblue4068 No worries mate, hold my Bentspoke Crankshaft then.

[@Nathan-hk5xp]

@@DaveLL500 lmao wtf most here drink their local beer, so either VB, Toohey's, Hahn, XXXX, Great Northern, Boags

[@DaveLL500]

@@Nathan-hk5xp You must not be from Canberra mate. BentSpoke has taken out the number one spot in the nation’s biggest craft beer poll, with 4 beers being voted into the Top 20, 5 in the top 50, and BentSpoke Crankshaft taking out the number 1 spot.

[@raviscott4853]

@@bluerblue4068 Credit where due, it's marginally better than Budwieser. Marginally...

[@Thekingcmk]

So much for Mike being an "expert"

[@sludge4125]

Amen, brother.

[@thelastmanonearth2631]

No, no. Inaccuracy and ignorance are what makes an expert an expert in 2021. Mike is right in line with all the others

[@waffles7650]

Bro that pick up of the ball was elite though 💯

[@Vegasprimetime]

Couldn’t do that if I had ten tries!

[@LukeBCtown]

Not enough punters have this level of composure. It's like as soon as the ball touches the ground they panic and start running around like a chicken without a head

[@user-bf8ud9vt5b]

That whole play is not uncommon in Aussie Rules ... a blocked kick (or as we would say, smothered), recovering the ball one handed in traffic, and kicking deep under pressure.

[@kyleverbunt693]

For anyone wondering how he Dickson picked it up so easily, it’s cause of his background in AFL, we’re picking up the ball like that off the ground is a key skill that you learn at a young game.

[@halo289]

Or maybe...it’s...it’s because the ball had a very generous spin on its own axis? My grandma could’ve picked that up 😅🤷‍♂️

[@calebsmith9773]

@@halo289 yeah and that’s how it is in AFL too. The ball is the same shape so bounces like that happen 1000s of times a game

[@Balin_James]

@@halo289 that certainly was a pretty sexy spin it had goin there. I can’t even do that on purpose!

[@iankearns774]

We are doing that in the Under 10's on muddy grounds in the pouring rain. Some of the things us suburban players do as normal would amaze NFL supporters.

[@calebsmith9773]

@@iankearns774 brings back so many memories

[@TheSacuLlp]

As a Seattle fan there isn't much to be proud of these days from the team, but ever since we drafted Michael Dickson we had one hell of a punter! Atleast something

[@alanmazzucchelli9013]

Lucas One very bad year and you're crying like a baby. Nine years with the worst record being 9/7 outlier. Find another team to root for.

[@blakebecker3193]

What do you think of my K-State boy Lockett

[@bgdragon99]

He checked to make sure he wasn't past that line of scrimmage before kicking. Brilliant play.

[@Frenchy00]

The amount of skill you need to even get that second kick off

[@PEZ1514]

I was more impressed by that one handed in stride scoop he did to grab the ball

[@CosmoNautica22]

@@PEZ1514 We need more Aussie Rules players like Dickson in the league. Good hands AND good feet.

[@somethinsomethin9979]

@@PEZ1514 It comes pretty easy after you have played Australian rules football for a couple of years because its basic skill and its not hard.

[@edwardgaines6561]

Actually, if you look at the field, the punter could have ran that in for a first down. He could've made it, had he run to the right.

[@bowdiddly6172]

Not as much as you think. I punted in high school, you practice punting while running for your life, at least I did, my team sucked ass.

[@TuberOnTheLoose]

Whether it was legal or not it was still a brilliant move. Even if it had been called back for a penalty they would have had the opportunity to punt again instead of the Rams taking over from there.

[@rhmayer1]

Not necessarily. It might be a loss of down penalty if he illegally crossed the line of scrimmage during the 2nd kick.

[@jackhandy00]

@@rhmayer1 there is no loss of down for punting the ball while beyond the LOS. It is a 10yd penalty only.

[@rhmayer1]

@@jackhandy00 Thanks for clarifying. It's one of those plays that maybe the defense should have the option of accepting or declining with loss of down like other penalties (which of course defenses would rather take - and take possession). Every year they make changes to the rules, so the current 10 yd penalty/no loss of down ruling may change in the future. Crazier rule changes have occurred. Some make no sense to me, like why a QB can step far over the LOS, including progressing the ball past the LOS, and then can throw the ball from beyond the LOS, as long as the tip of one toe remains at the LOS or even lifted but at the vertical plane of the LOS. (I don't object to the QB stepping over the line to throw, but the ball should never leave his hand while over the LOS. The rules should not allow that. As soon as the ball crosses the LOS (while still in the QB's hand) then it should immediately be deemed a run (progressing on a carry) and any pass after that should be illegal forward progress even if the QB's foot or toe remains behind the LOS. The LOS should be treated just like the goal line - it's where the BALL is that should matter. Just my opinion.)

[@jackhandy00]

@@rhmayer1 I have no objection to how the rule is written. So long as its uniformly enforced. A toe, or your whole body and the ball behind the line...makes no difference as long as everyone knows the rule.

[@rhmayer1]

@@jackhandy00 Yes, everyone knowing the rule is obviously important but is not the only important factor in rule making. Another factor is consistency and making sense intuitively. A crazy rule is not kosher just because it has been clearly announced to everyone and is enforced uniformly. Rules need to also be sensible. There is no REASON to carve out a special-powers rule for quarterbacks that doesn't apply to other players. Special rules are indeed created for specific players, like QB's and kickers - but these are safety rules for their specific vulnerabilities over other players, and NOT having to do with advancing the ball. Also, one detail. You said, "... and the ball behind the line..." But the ball does NOT have to be behind the line, according to the current rule. That's what's not sensible to me. Currently the QB can have the ball well OVER the LOS and still throw it downfield, if merely one of his toes is at the plane of the LOS. Even if everyone knows this and the rule is enforced uniformly, it's still a bad rule because it intuitively violates traditional ball progression rules that are at the very foundation of the game. Treating the LOS differently than the goal line is just fundamentally wrong and the INCONSISTENCY is what makes the rule bad. The LOS had always been thought of like, essentially, a moving goal line - with the plane of the line being the critical point of location regarding questions of ball progression. That the ball can be carried across this line/plane and THEN be passed downfield, but only by one particular player, is a strange rule to say the least; one that I will never be comfortable with even if everyone knows about it and it is enforced uniformly. Call me old school, but I see no reason for this rule to exist - why the referee board thought it necessary. What was the problem that this unusual rule solved? Sorry, this isn't really meant to put you on the spot to defend it. It's just a rhetorical question and something to ask a game official to help clarify, and not meant to argue with you - who may not even really care! Cheers!

[@jmc1999a]

So neither the announcers nor the expert ref know what the hell they're talking about. How embarrassing.

[@TheRKae]

A lot of "experts" have been completely wrong the last year and half. IYKWIMAITYD.

[@BradyDearinger]

I've been saying it since he joined the team. That punter is the best player on the seahawks.

[@ljlinthecasa2633]

I remember this guy in college. He went to Texas University, and he won MVP at a bowl game I went to. The Alamo bowl I believe. It was against Maryland. He had like 5 punts inside the 10 yard line and 2 of them were inside the 5. After every punt, the crowd chanted MVP.

[@krubosh]

University of Texas* and it was the Texas Bowl in 2017 against Missouri that he won MVP

[@csick11]

That wasn't him. He's from Australia

[@krubosh]

@@csick11 Correct. He is from Australia but he played college football at UT before the NFL. I was at school there at the time. It takes 3 minutes to do a little bit of research before you comment.

[@csick11]

@@krubosh you didn't go to school with him though. Nice try

[@csick11]

@@krubosh I would have known if you did.

[@palmer.jake1]

I don’t care what else happens the rest of the season, this is the play of the year!

[@Wavex19]

Too bad he kicked it past the line so it shouldn't have counted

[@CM-hi4db]

A kick? Play of the year? Nah.

[@merlinthebikewizard4392]

@@Wavex19 It was ruled he didn't maybe get a rule book.

[@travispreble]

This has to be at LEAST nominated for play of the year

[@danielcoronado6483]

Your life must be very sad

[@nissleycrunch9097]

This is completely Legal, they would review it if the official had any doubt whether or not the punter was across the Line of Scrimmage. Just an FYI the rule is just like a QB throwing the ball, his fully body and the ball have to all be fully across the Line of Scrimmage for it to be Illegal.

[@kneesnap1041]

his plant leg was not past the line of scrimage, even if the ball was

[@davidtsang4949]

It's not that. People think you can't kick it again after it's blocked.

[@newtheis]

That ex-ref Mike Pereira is clueless. Half the time he opens his mouth with expertise, he back-tracks with an explanation on why he was wrong.

[@Pablito46]

That scoop on the run while the ball was top spinning was the most impressive part of the play.

[@xxboywizardxx9573]

I love Dickson’s face after the play like “Oh you didn’t know you could do that? I did”

[@brus3460]

Anybody else notice the smooth one handed pickup of the ball too. Most athletic punter in the game and it ain't close

[@mitchellcallick8315]

Yeah his background in AFL paying off for the Seahawks

[@WaterburnerActual]

Definitely makes for more excitement, and puts added emphasis on D to recover the block before K, & gets a 2nd kick. Yeah, I think I like this new rule!

[@deltalordtrading]

That was the greatest one hand scoop in the history of the NFL.

[@nickpearce9441]

Man you are easily impressed. He made it look easy because AFL players make that play multiple times per game.

[@risen6767]

I love how you included the announcers being wrong and then cutting to no penalty. Thumbs up

[@redskies12incs]

Kick was insane, but is no one seriously going to talk about how he picked up the ball in full stride while it was spinning??? That was pretty damn impressive itself

[@mal2ksc]

I understand that's something Aussie Rules players practice heavily. The question is why we _don't._

[@redskies12incs]

@@mal2ksc that is very true. I seen that in real time. My mouth dropped like wtf lol was I Tripping lol

[@googleisfascist9278]

Can we appreciate how he picked the ball up?

[@feature.of.jarjar24]

That's his AFL background helping him out

[@debuthunter5389]

That's AFL basics :)

[@billsclintonsmafia5966]

He was past the line of scrimmage so it shouldn't of counted but an amazing heads up play breaking the "punters aren't real players" stereotype.

[@jasonfischer8946]

*shouldn't have

[@michaelyrure152]

He was right on the line of scrimmage which is still counted as being behind the line of scrimmage

[@nissleycrunch9097]

if you pause it the exact frame the ball leaves his foot is it very clear that part of his body is behind or on the 21 yard line. His full body and the ball need to all be past the LoS for this to be a penalty. Kick is legal, and this play is reviewable, but the official had a perfect view and made the right call.

[@mae2759]

Your body needs to be completely past the line for it to be a foul.

[@hackett41]

@@michaelyrure152 he was past the line of scrimmage. The line of scrimmage was at the 20 he clearly goes passed it

[@lachlannichol2315]

Americans: That is an amazing play! Australians: We call that a normal Saturday watching the U12s.....

[@josephm.5661]

So, this is why being an “expert” on the rules for the position you play is paramount. Even the broadcast’s “rules expert and former referee” got it wrong…but the punter knew exactly why he WAS allowed to kick it again and so he did. The ball, even though it was blocked, never made it past the line of scrimmage and so he was allowed to kick it again, as long as he didn’t pass the line of scrimmage running with it. I watched the clip over and over and paused it when he kicked that second time…and it looks like he was right on that line, but never crossed. Ingenious play!

[@metfan099]

“That’s something we’re gonna have to look into.” Dude, just admit you were wrong lol

[@luisromerobarrios]

Already love Geno, he doesn't run into sacks

[@kinggreen6141]

Russ was good at throwing the ball away 2 seasons ago but I think the Russ magic got to his head so now he waits way to long and tries to be flashy and then blames it on the o-line

[@luisromerobarrios]

@@kinggreen6141 It is exactly what I think. He used to go for the simple play, now tries to make big plays.

[@vbm2119]

Right, he just throws to the opposing team 🤧 STFU.

[@bowdiddly6172]

LMAO, there is a very good reason he IS NOT a starter in the NFL.

[@WhatsY0UTUB3]

throws nice game losing picks too

[@samueloconnor2938]

Stunned they didn’t talk about that scoop up. That was so impressive

[@raulgomez1692]

That play reminded me of the Garo Yepremian blocked field goal attempt in Super Bowl VII. He then tried to throw the ball only to have the it intercepted and ran back for a touchdown for the other team.

[@94n8dog]

Except this is pretty much the opposite in terms of awareness and athleticism. Other than that, though, totally yeah.

[@pj2105]

Just like the commentators in the video, he didn't know he could have just kicked it again, at least he could have gotten a punt downfield out of it.

[@bondsons]

Amazing snap judgement by that punter! From a former punter.

[@retiredmusiceducator3612]

There is no 'e' after the 'g' in judgment.

[@mrmacross]

I still think the smartest punts I've ever seen was when Devin Hester was in his prime and the punters kicked it out of bounds directly.

[@RawwkinGrimmie64]

His plant foot was right at the line of scrimmage based on the sideline down marker. I even looked up the rule because I was watching a play-by-play stream, and this is my first time seeing the actual play. Rule 9 Section 1 Article 1, Note 3 "A second kick from behind the line of scrimmage is legal provided the ball has not crossed the line." A perfectly legal double punt, and the refs explained it perfectly.

[@SportyBeastChannel]

In my opinion he crossed the line anyway, good job Dickson for confusing the refs so they didnt call it

[@Rlyeh_The_Dead]

Easily 1 or 2 penalties by the Seahawks, but I love it short-circuited the refs.

[@GlacialScion]

His heel is right one the line of scrimmage when his foot makes contact. It doesn't matter where he lands.

[@SportyBeastChannel]

@@GlacialScion no thats where he left the ground

[@GlacialScion]

@@SportyBeastChannel ... that's the same thing

[@moralester]

@@GlacialScion no youre wrong stop the video at 1:31 you can see he's 1-2 yards past lmao i took a pic and its indisputable

[@chrisharris7903]

The way dude was running and just one hand scooped it up was awesome. I see offensive and defensive players try picking up a fumble and half the time they end up kicking it down field 😂

[@tvs3497]

Now that's real Football! No penalty there. That's thinking smart. Give that kicker a raise!

[@radamrussell]

This one has to be in the Top 5 plays in the NFL this season. To have the athleticism to react and scoop the ball and then the smarts to kick it again....and it was a great punt.

[@eliwilson3902]

I thought I was watching rugby for a second. I've never seen an NFL player have those kind of ball skills and kicking skills. I guess him having played Aussie rules football helps him out, because most punters aren't gonna be able to scoop the ball and make a kick on the run like that.

[@MrRickstuff]

No, its not Rugby its Aussie rules and in Aussie Rules that would of classed as, he paniced play

[@commandertony9856]

As a Seahawks fan I remember watching this play sitting on the edge of my seat. One of the most exciting ones ever.

[@mgb4692]

Unnoticed part: Tre Flowers with his best play of the year helping down the punt😂😂😂😂😂

[@adamray2305]

Fucking tre flowers man...

[@cashoutsteve2495]

Michael Dickson = Future Punting GOAT Unbelievable poise (despite the block) and awareness overall to pull off that magnificent kick under pressure and most importantly, kept it inside the 20. TERRIFIC!

[@GalacticCoast]

That one-hand scoop on the move of a spinning ball was sick!

[@theshadowswithin9896]

Thank goodness they picked up an Aussie punter... Such a smooth scoop, such a heads up play. Common place in Australian football, as well as those bounce kicks he does.

[@fian9]

"The penalty for a punt, drop kick, or placekick from beyond the line is to be enforced from the spot where the ball is punted or kicked when the player’s entire body and the ball are beyond the line of scrimmage. This includes either when the player is airborne or touching the ground." I mean his plant foot is arguably on the LOS if not it's just over and his entire upper body is behind his plant foot when he kicks the ball so wouldn't you take that onto consideration as well?

[@WisconsinParkour]

Just for the record, if this is in fact illegal and a penalty, the kick is brilliant. Either he got himself a do-over or a kick landing at the 10 subsequently moved over ten yards by penalty. All of these things are better than a blocked punt and trying to run to advance the ball.

[@robertsheffield4044]

I agree, and I would've thought (when it was illegal) it would've been treated like intentional grounding (dead ball at the spot of the second kick, loss of down). Anything less basically screws the defense for making a great play because they'd almost have to take the penalty and give the kicking team another chance to punt.

[@SophieTheBagel1984]

Dude played footie back home in Australia. That's how he pulled that off. Love our kickers.

[@davidbrandel1311]

This was one of the most heads up plays I have ever seen. When the announcers said it had been blocked I was expecting a Rams touchdown.

[@FurnaceFuneral84]

Great freaking 2nd effort. 80 yard punt yes please. Seahawks are awesome.

[@JKiler1]

69 yards. 21 to the 10.

[@gnittegdellort]

That pickup - every Aussie kid learns that when we play footy as kids

[@itsprodigy3373]

Dickson is elite… love to see the #forthebrand

[@edwardgaines6561]

He could've ran that in for a 1st down.

[@itsprodigy3373]

@@edwardgaines6561 he thought about it but his running room was fading quickly and LA would get great field position

[@zacharylowe8083]

The best part is he probably thought it was illegal when he punted it, but did it anyway because it would get called back for the penalty, and he’d get a chance to re-kick. Pat McAfee did that once on a muffed snap

[@OKOKOKOKOKOKOK-zn2fy]

I hope there was a little bonus taped to his locker after the game. That was an important improvisation.

[@CF-ks8zw]

They brought in Gene Steratore to explain the rules and clearly he doesn’t know the rules.

[@grantl7062]

Mike P

[@grogery1570]

Back in the '90's I was telling anyone who would listen that in 20 years there wouldn't be a punter in the NFL who wasn't Australian. I was normally told to pull my head in. Now if I modify that to there shouldn't be a punter in the NFL who isn't Australian does any one want to tell me to pull my head in?

[@brendan6704]

This was awesome and if the kick gets blocked and the punter can kick it again behind the line of scrimmage it should never be a penalty, that's incredible 👏

[@josephsaeteurn9158]

but he kicked the ball pass the scrimmage..

[@dennesey]

Dickson outsmarted his own coach.

[@terracub]

The pickup was absolutely incredible. One-handed pickup wow

[@Boxscot49]

So did the refs screw up or not I’m still so confused

[@HighlightHeaven]

idek tbh

[@billsclintonsmafia5966]

@@HighlightHeaven They did you can punt it twice but he crossed the Los so it should of been a 10 yard penalty.

[@hoofhearted1833]

@@billsclintonsmafia5966 Looked like that left foot was not past the line of scrimmage judging by this clip. If so, legal kick.

[@mason.11]

You have to be behind the LOS if you can punt the ball a second time (in this case, you could). The LOS is Seattle's 21. I'm pausing it at 0:09, where the ball was punted the second time. It's very hard to tell from this camera angle whether his plant foot fully crossed that yardage line -- you need an aerial view from a skycam for that. If this were reviewable (idk if it is) chances are the call would stand due to inconclusive evidence. I'll let the refs off the hook for this one.

[@keyton1928]

@@billsclintonsmafia5966 I really don’t think he was. The LOS was right down the middle of the 2 on the 20 on that side of the field. He’s basically right on it. Maybe half a foot past it.

[@LeftIsBest]

"Well it seems we had no clue what we were talking about, Jim."

[@jonathanrodriguez8217]

The way Dickson picked the ball up was some boss asss shit

[@drifterdogs]

the way he snatched that ball up.... dude has a new nickname... and it's "Hands"

[@bubbafats6246]

Thomas Tapeh did this in high school. His punt was blocked right back into his arms, then he boot legged out to the side and drop kicked the punt for 63 yards, it was pretty amazing. In high school we always knew he was capable of the NFL, just wished he did better after he got their.

[@kirkNJ]

To me, the most impressive part is how nimbly he picked up the ball -- he should give lessons to other players on how to do that. How many times have you seen someone dive on a loose ball and see it squirt out? Sometimes, that happens four or five times on one fumble.

[@altspencer2264]

he’s a man of focus, commitment, and sheer fricking will

[@moneybatala2247]

The punter scooped it up with 1 hand. That was dope.

[@Chris-0703]

This is the right call. Line of scrimmage is exactly the 21 yard-line. He releases the ball on the 20 while initiating his step forward with his plant (left) foot, which steps down on the 21 (hence the ref’s call that his heel was on the line of scrimmage). The ball drops forward and his kicking foot makes contact somewhere around the 21.5 yard-line. But it is based on his plant foot not where the ball is contacted, similar to basketball (as long as your feet are behind the 3pt line, it doesn’t matter if you release it with your hands over the line).

[@sharpieman2035]

But the rule specifies it’s only legal if the ball hasn’t crossed the line, and by what you said, the ball crossed the line. “For a second kick from behind the line after the ball has crossed the line: Loss of 10 yards from the previous spot.”

[@kushpaladin]

Lmao Pete's face at 0:34 is just gold