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@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Note from one of the devs (since I had to check all of this by hand when I still had alpha access) "Yoooo sick video today! Here are the only inaccuracies I noticed from it: From video: - You cant tech shield break landing - Special pummel also removes chaingrab protection" Everyone say "thank you" to Trevor now
@sleepynuigurumiamalgamation5 ай бұрын
Thankyou trevor
@frigomaniac5 ай бұрын
thank you trevor
@GammaFn.5 ай бұрын
Thank you Trevor!
@DreamerAirazel4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Trevor.
@iamtimnar52894 ай бұрын
Thank you, Trevor!
@redpandaplush59805 ай бұрын
I love how many times in this video you're like "so this is like the melee mechanic with a five letter acronym that requires 18 frame perfect inputs. In rivals it has an actual word that makes sense for the name and requires two buffered button presses."
@ringotheflamingo69005 ай бұрын
actually he never said this
@powwu5 ай бұрын
@@ringotheflamingo6900He mentions SHFFL at 16:14. Not 18 frame perfect inputs, but I take it this is an example of what they were referring to lol
@andromeda_ssb3 ай бұрын
even in rivals 1 they’ve been simplifying a lot of movement tech from games like pm and melee but i don’t lose my muscle memory switching between them which is the coolest part imo
@qjo_maste5 ай бұрын
holy shit im never seeing another human when i get this game
@DreamerAirazel5 ай бұрын
"You can parry by holding Shield and pressing B" So you're saying that Parry is essentially Special Shield, hm?
@TheKingOfMEEEPs5 ай бұрын
Oh no...
@mentlegen38874 ай бұрын
I hope there will be special taunts in the same vain as Dan's taunt super from street f 4
@temp15345 ай бұрын
can I Koopabackdashwaveslide Hoverwalkmoonland in Rivals 2?
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Once Melee Bowser is added, absolutely
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
well its in rivals 1 soooo
@navi_boii5 ай бұрын
@@zachstarattack7320 fancy seeing you here, sup dude
@ulsiz5 ай бұрын
Been hype for this ever since I stopped competing, Rivals has always been a series that felt smooth as butter but didn't have enough local support to naturally build a scene. I'm hoping this pops off so I can go back to competing, the community for the original game has been the most welcoming I've ever experienced. Rivals feels great and Rivals 2 carried that from what I've played already, and I'm really excited with how the new characters not in the original Rivals felt
@vladgina5 ай бұрын
Never heard of Rivals. I never got into Melee as a player but watched stuff here and ghere over the years. I was always shocked that no game came close to Melee. This is really frickin cool to learn about and I hope it becomes huge.
@dauzen23105 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Super thorough breakdown of the game as it stands rn, and a great overview as we head into Genesis! Sorry if this comes off as rude, but a couple points to clarify tho: - grab lockout - u made it sound like only normal pummel negates the timer, but it is removed if either pummel connects - wavedash input - for folks new to Rivals, just know that pressing shield during jumpsquat doesn’t cancel ur jumpsquat, it’ll just buffer the airdodge to ur first airborne frame. So basically so long as u try and wavedash exactly when u jump (input at the same time) or delay like in melee, u’ll wavedash just fine and with the same framedata either way - ledgedash invincibility - u can ledgedash with invincibility even after u’ve landed, but as soon as u input an attack the s disappear. So no invincible jabs/grabs, but u can safely get into shield Anyway, again, great video Wisely!
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Thanks! And no worries, it's not rude! You're just more specific about certain things. EDIT: Trevor DMd me to confirm, ledgedash intangability goes away right after the waveland ends regardless of if you attack or not.
@XenoPon25 ай бұрын
Gotta love these guide videos for games that haven't even been released yet:P
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I thought about that while making it, but even the devs are sending this to people now so I'm feeling good LOL
@the3dluxe534 ай бұрын
I really like how nothing requires mashing. Makes the game more accessible.
@yumbream5 ай бұрын
watching this before my rivals 2 pool at genesis today o7
@yumbream5 ай бұрын
Update: I 0-2'd but I swagged out on friendlies & I'm probably gonna main Rivals 2 in the future!
@TotshotAirsoft4 ай бұрын
@@yumbreamwanna play some more?
@masta1825 ай бұрын
"there is no mashing" day1 buy
@JbrockPony5 ай бұрын
I remember Ateozc explaining to me about the grab mechanics in person, without context of video. I was honestly still kinda lost on how it works LOL. Seeing the visual indicators of the said grab breaks is a nice touch. I’ve been playing Tekken 8 recently and seeing the similarities of that grab break mini game makes me a bit more excited / nervous for this change (Thanks King for the knowledge check PTSD 😭)
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Yeah, at least it's a 50/50 and not a full grappler with 100 different ways to start it, hahaha
@venomturtle175 ай бұрын
Looks like I'm watching it again
@djinni20055 ай бұрын
Damn this game can do everything! ... But can I find love in Rivals 2?
@Marthyboy884 ай бұрын
Can't wait for this game. Lifelong melee fan since WAY back in the Gamefaqs days. Fell in love with Rivals about 2 years ago, and super hyped to see the sequel.
@damajorplaya38045 ай бұрын
Still hoping that Forsburn makes it on to the roster, he was easily my favorite character to play in rivals 1
@rillabel5 ай бұрын
I need to play this game so bad
@TopManLoader5 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be keeping my eyes peeled on your channel from now. Really excited to hear you talking more about Rivals 2 and well... anything, honestly.
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Well thank you
@kevindhir5 ай бұрын
Wisely, this video was amazing. Thank you! Can't wait for the Rivals 2 bracket at Genny.
@Spunney5 ай бұрын
This is an awesome video, thanks so much for making it! Really excited to play Rivals 2 when I was kinda neutral on it before :D
@GazerPlur4205 ай бұрын
Amazing vid Wisley! Editing was smooth showcasing what you're explaining at the time you explain it. And everything made sense right away!
@johnleecooper85205 ай бұрын
i cant wait to combo off of the chaingrab lockout grab break animation, like into a falling projectile or fleet explosion or something. that would be so swag
@ChaosEcho5 ай бұрын
I’ve been asking about galint for weeks now! Thank you for catering to the nerds! Also, I’m willing to bet that most players will use special pummel over normal pummel in the beginning, so it might be worth it to make regrabs exclusive to the normal pummel. For balancing reasons and whatnot.
@Wolfie155 ай бұрын
Going from Super Smash Flash 2 to Rivals of Aether is possibly the best thing I've ever done in terms of the games I play all the time. Rivals is just super polished and I'm real excited for the sequel.
@ianmorales29603 ай бұрын
Hey I know you
@LazarNaskov5 ай бұрын
Maybe I should've have mentioned the crouch canceling 🤣 Either way, great vid and I'm super looking forward to Rivals 2! I love how intentional the mechanics are.
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
LOL
@LazarNaskov5 ай бұрын
@@atWisely Oh I'm sure, I was just joking because it almost felt like I caused the takedown due to the timing. You said yourself in the video that you weren't covering everything, and I'm of the opinion that you've hit all the most important stuff. I only know about crouch canceling because I managed to get it in the dev Q&A on the discord and it's been on my mind recently. There are so many cool details in this game's design!
@MrCocktaiI5 ай бұрын
No mashing ❤
@User-pu3lc5 ай бұрын
This game looks so cool. Cannot wait for it to release
@powwu5 ай бұрын
I'd love to see more R2 content, especially character overviews!
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
It's not the only game I'm going to cover, but there's going to be a ton of R2 in the future, no worries!
@tacitozetticci93084 ай бұрын
this is shaping to be a timeless masterpiece
@lilCork1005 ай бұрын
great video Wisely. I love the vibe ur content carries. week 1 imma find you for some friendlies!
@MrGameguyC5 ай бұрын
18:14 Oh shoot there's way more!? I'm hungry for more info!
@frankunodostres473Ай бұрын
13:19 love this bit! :D one of the most informative rivals 2 videos I've seen so far. man I'm excited for this game. I've been around since the early rivals 1 days. I hope all characters return for the sequel except ori and shovel knight obviously
@FutureZombie075 ай бұрын
Dude your beard is sick I hope to have one that can come close to it one day
@nickcard41225 ай бұрын
Love your videos! You make me want to play this game immediately
@NightArMzX754 ай бұрын
Great vid! So hype to lab some Clairen
@frigomaniac5 ай бұрын
ledge dashes from tournament winners don't have as much invincibility as a normal ledgedash (though they might be slightly longer iirc) also i feel like your recovery example with ranno divekicking the wall is misleading. ranno's divekick was changed so that he's fully actionable after a while instead of only being able to jump. so you can still do divekick walljump recoveries, ranno players will just have to relearn the spacings love the video tho, can't wait for this game!
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Do they not? I didn't realize that, good catch
@frigomaniac5 ай бұрын
@@atWisely it was a dev reply to a question about them on twitter some time ago
@voltdragon5 ай бұрын
I’m so excited!!! I hope they add at least ONE of my mains back in, as I was a forsburn and absa main back in the day
@cmattss42 ай бұрын
Great info thanks!
@atticusv668Ай бұрын
Having watched this I don't think I'll ever play a single game of Ultimate ever again
@norboar_5 ай бұрын
14:54 young link marked as not having a wall jump 😢 Nice content tho
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I'm so mad I forgot one, I triple checked before making that part 🥲
@borkbork95415 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was checkin' the comments to see if anyone else caught that. Adult link is the one that Can't walljump
@CannibalSerb5 ай бұрын
Can’t believe Wisely would betray me like this
@xguitarist_5 ай бұрын
Has babydashing changed? On Twitter there was talk (I think from Dan) about changing it to put the consistency between analog and digital inputs more in line with each other. (Maybe extending it to a 2 frame dash input?)
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I have no idea, sorry :(
@jimmyOHMAN12 ай бұрын
Thanks bald Santa!
@atWisely2 ай бұрын
You're welcome 🥲
@LunaireTD5 ай бұрын
Fire vid fam, keep it up
@ampskitchen5 ай бұрын
this video is super good thank u sir wise
@EduSolsa5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Drake_Waffle5 ай бұрын
11:08 Fun fact, this is something that originates from the OG Nasb
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
no
@chasehaha95065 ай бұрын
meant to ask, have any of the weirder mechanics like axmos dropping made it into 2? ive been curious but i havent heard anything
@gEEKLEEKs4 ай бұрын
Is there a resource where I can find all the tech that’s in rivals? Searching on KZbin doesn’t really show you everything if you know the specific tech.
@Tuckzelda5 ай бұрын
cant wait for this game
@johnleecooper85205 ай бұрын
its probably more a matter of how dramatic it is, but do you know if theres wavedropping / rundropping?
@RileyScott2 ай бұрын
I am locking in now
@TekZulu5 ай бұрын
One thing I'm curious about ledges is how ledge grabbing works. Is it like melee where you can only grab it when you have downward momentum? Can you grab the ledge if your back is to the ledge? Are there magnet hands and if so, how strong are they?
@yumbream5 ай бұрын
It's like melee where you have to be falling, and you have to face the stage. It feels pretty forgiving compared to melee though
@D3stinySm4sher5 ай бұрын
Game's looking pretty great so far!
@unebaguette97453 күн бұрын
Thank Dan for giving me the possibility to play this game well despite sucking at making controlled movement with the joystick XD
@dudeross91202 ай бұрын
Bro your beard is life-giving.
@palatonian96185 ай бұрын
Any updates about when the beta will be? I just found out about the newsletter and signed up, but I haven't seen any other info. I'm new to rivals and really excited for rivals 2
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I believe Q2, but I'm not sure when that might open up for people who didn't back the Kickstarter
@campfire97604 ай бұрын
9:20 well turns out she doesn't
@martins_slowlife5 ай бұрын
Do they have slide cancelled tilts?
@Boardman0395 ай бұрын
Hi, will it be possible to keep beta access until the game comes out?
@juanse5601Ай бұрын
Awesome video.
@tokobot5 ай бұрын
wait, is that melonkeepr gold at 9:20
@randomgamerdude985 ай бұрын
Is there perfect pivoting like in smash 4 in this new rivals game?
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I don't believe so, but I'd need to double check to confirm
@willdangerfield504685 ай бұрын
Haven’t finished watching but just gotta say that a magnificent beard
@BAMFdude155 ай бұрын
Does using kraggs platform refresh air dodge or do you have to land on main platform?
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Yep, it functions as a standard platform for that kind of thing.
@BAMFdude155 ай бұрын
@@atWisely YAAAAAAS! WE EATING TODAY FELLOW KRAGG KINGS!
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I'm now second guessing my answer to this LOL But I'm like 95% sure!
@not_anybody_in_particular5 ай бұрын
Can you grab ledge while facing away? Or no?
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
EDIT: One of the devs messaged me, I was wrong and you CAN grab the ledge backwards.
@adamyohan5 ай бұрын
We're eating so good
@Mothra_well2 ай бұрын
I highkey wish I watched this before playing the beta, makes a lot of shit make sense
@ketchubbАй бұрын
i need you to guide me to the install button lol
@CrispyGFX5 ай бұрын
Looking really really juicy
@SheeshFr5 ай бұрын
Wtf is that Honda @ 0:55? He left our scene ~2018 and has been travelling the nation as an artist since. MY GOD does the guy on the left look and sound just like him.
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Must be a doppelganger, that's just one of my friends
@SheeshFr5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the follow up! Very excited to follow you & your content as Rivals 2 continues to unfold :)@@atWisely
@premthottumkara6545 ай бұрын
That's me and mannnnn I wish I was a Honda. I'm basically a used Kia.
@SheeshFr5 ай бұрын
LMAO! A used Kia can out-drive any Fox.@@premthottumkara654
@sleepynuigurumiamalgamation5 ай бұрын
Concerned if were not getting platboosting but other that Im hype for the game new things & classics.
@sirquags5 ай бұрын
Is slingshot (the universal movement tech in ultimate) in Rivals 2? I wanted to ask this on the Dev Q&A stream but was busy with work. Would be awesome to see slingshot in rivals 2 since it's literally just RAR but much more lenient, versatile, and beginner friendly. Any info would be great!
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
I don't know about that one, I'm sorry! I didn't think to test slingshot.
@sirquags5 ай бұрын
@@atWisely All good! Thanks for the reply anyways, I'll make sure to test it myself when the beta comes out :)
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
probably not. melee heads dont like it to be too easy to do backairs like that. better to wavedash backwards
@TheBigSad82475 ай бұрын
@@zachstarattack7320 Well it's a good thing this game isn't marketed towards just melee players.
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
i don't like it either@@TheBigSad8247
@PeacockLover1275 ай бұрын
thank goodness i HATE mashing
@kode-man235 ай бұрын
As someone who played Greninja and Inkling post Melee (aka two characters that often can’t do a damn thing about a low percentage shield break), boy do I sure prefer the idea of breaks popping the opponent up in the air rather than a stun-state! Also!!! Sooo glad that there is a reason to pummel now. I NEVER used to pummel. I always considered the risk of the opponent mashing out to be waaay worse than the reward of minimally more damage.
@leoluster015 ай бұрын
ENGAGEMENT !!
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
13:17 technically i would say grounded frames when you...
@HermanTGАй бұрын
I liked Rivals 1 a lot, but it came at a time, where i lost interest in Platform Fighters, mainly because of sucking lol But rivals 2 looks like its a lot of fun, might pick it up if it ever comes out on console
@MilfSlayr5 ай бұрын
5:33 among us?
@shivernaut86075 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest losing the pixel art for 3d models hurts a little
@enzocerro32765 ай бұрын
Where is orcane :(
@TheLucky1UpАй бұрын
doesnt have my favorite smash mechanic; tripping
@chasehaha95065 ай бұрын
bro loves pity flips
@minnie67305 ай бұрын
Ori isn’t in the game wtfffffffff😢😢😢😢
@MrCocktaiI5 ай бұрын
You might be the single person that made me go from don't really care to buy this game
@loganalleman5 ай бұрын
It's so weird how you're only comparing things to Melee and PM. Like how you made acting out of tourney winner a huge deal, even though that's been in smash since at least 4.
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
because this game is for meleeheqds haha
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
It's because more of my personal experience is with those two, that's all. And a lot of people only play one or the other. Some Melee friends were shocked when I told them you can act out of tourney winner in other games.
@loganalleman5 ай бұрын
@@atWisely That makes a lot of sense. It's interesting seeing what they take from various games, trying to get the best from each
@mikezingery25375 ай бұрын
Reupload? 🤔
@atWisely5 ай бұрын
Yup! I forgot to include clip credits and wanted to fix that.
@konchu52215 ай бұрын
amogus
@myboy_5 ай бұрын
You're handsome
@edlopez69074 ай бұрын
They need to chamge the grab mechanic. Rps is never good in a fighting game.
@atWisely4 ай бұрын
Oh buddy
@kf_isher11495 ай бұрын
asdf
@zachstarattack73205 ай бұрын
18:07 i hate babydash... hope u can buffer it from a lag instead of going for 1 frame
@xguitarist_5 ай бұрын
You can buffer it already in rivals 1 tho I’m like 99% sure, for example short hop nair then input and release a dash right before endlag finishes (within the buffer window) gives you a babydash every time I’m just hoping they extend it to at least 2f so it’s consistent on analog and digital inputs