The Snyder Cult is Real - But Why?

[@awesomebacon1075]

The most ironic thing is that Zack Snyder and James Gunn are actually good friends in real life. Like, they even collaborated on a movie that is widely considered one of Snyder’s best movies. Snyder cultists not even giving Gunn a chance for this new DCU is just poetically tragic at this point.

[@dobi287]

They're not. They worked together once twenty plus years ago. They're work colleagues. Like you or I seeing an ex coworker or school alumnus out in the wild.

[@awesomebacon1075]

@@dobi287 no, they’ve literally kept in contact with each other over the years. Snyder has gone on record to say Gunn is a buddy. James Gunn has said in interviews that he and Zack have been friends for a long time (actually, if you look at an old interview for Brightburn, he even says he’s a fan of Man of Steel). James Gunn supported him at Snydercon. Snyder actually had some indirect involvement in Peacemaker through his recommendation to Gunn of a stunt coordinator that he’s used in the past on his own films. Snyder even called Gunn right after he got the Co-CEO job and wished him all the best. They’re pals!

[@dobi287]

@@awesomebacon1075 just like you and I have kept in contact with our school and work associates. I already know those things you have mentioned. They're not friends their acquaintances

[@awesomebacon1075]

@@dobi287 okay, if you want to debate the concept of “friend” and “acquaintance” with Gunn and Snyder that’s another thing too. But it’s not like they’re *just* work colleagues or just accidentally bumping into ex coworker or school alumnus. They’re definitely not on opposing teams, that’s for sure, unlike what the hardcore Snyder and Gunn fans would try to make them out to be. (Actually, not a lot of people keep in contact with their alumnus and ex coworkers that aren’t their friends; most people just split when they’re out of there and only talk with their friends)

[@Crystal_Moon248]

Now we're debating the _concept_ of friendship?

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

If you see someone compare Snyder to Kubrick, you've found a Snyder cultist.

[@lazuruswolf6668]

I found a picture on Facebook of someone saying that Rebel Moon would be superior to Dune. Not the movie, their talking about the book.

[@thechuube8442]

@@lazuruswolf6668 lmfao if its a snyderbot i bet they still think that💀

[@kdannelley]

@@lazuruswolf6668😮

[@trigzzfrl3013]

I seen somebody on Twitter say that Batman v Superman was the greatest cbm of all time and that’s when I knew these people were delusional 😂😂

[@lazuruswolf6668]

Nah, Days of Future Past should take the title over BvS.

[@rbleaks818]

@@lazuruswolf6668 The Dark Knight, The Batman, The Suicide Squad, Joker, and many others say hi

[@lazuruswolf6668]

@@rbleaks818 …. Ok fair, but you gotta admit that DOFP nailed their Time Travel aspect.

[@urmomlel]

yes@@lazuruswolf6668

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

The geared cbm of all time is man of steel. Bvs ultimate edition is a close second or third. Delusional would be thinking the peacemaker or tss was good. Those were absolute ass yet I see people here saying they were good. That’s fucking delusional

[@chrissullivan6403]

You didn’t even get into their weirdest behavior, the whole “Snyder is the blueprint” thing. The crazy mfs think that Guardians of the Galaxy 3 ripped off Zack Snyder because a character yelled and there was a one take fight scene.

[@megatron2171]

Ok That is pure crazy, zack snyder didn own one take fight scene

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Yeah, as a Snyder fan who has loved most of what he's put out, I find it really fucking weird how they worship him. He's just a movie director. Also a big fan of Gunn and looking forward to what he does with Superman. There's room to love both.

[@jp9211]

I feel exactly the same as you. It's just wierd af.

[@kal.asther]

@@jp9211 It's not weird if you add up most of the hate critique he gets, so his fans try to balance that with as much love as they can. Only natural reaction.

[@kal.asther]

To add to that. Watchmen is still the most comicbook feeling movie ever made. Nothing topping that. Because almost everything else in the genre is a copy of Star Wars. Not that it's bad. It's just that the formula is painstakingly obvious. It works though.

[@jp9211]

I'll give that one to you, it makes sense. But still the hate as much as the worship is kind of wierd.@@kal.asther

[@theirongiants]

Exactly, can't we live in a community with widespread opinions.

[@DillonMaynard]

Over the past few days I've seen Snyder cultists blindly hate on Guardians 3. Not only coming with the lamest excuses as to why the entire trilogy is "bad" but also hoping the movie suffers in its second week. I'm by no means putting all my hope into James Gunn, but the man clearly has a knack for writing loveable characters and especially turning obscure/forgotten characters into household names. He's on a solid streak.

[@Critic_Chris90210]

The Snyder Cultists won't acknowledge this but Snyder's kind of Comic Book love is based of Heavy Metal i think is the title? Typcially the kind of graphic novel comics with more blood, sexuality/nudity and mixed with his kind of film making with slo-mo action scenes. What you'd expected of 300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch. All three films have a cult following similiar like his DCEU/Snyderverse take on DC films. But all 3 under performed what was expected of them, and best Snyder movies do is make their money back, and not alot more. Batman V. Superman is considered the highest gross of the 3 films he's done but after that film's first week/end , its gross was going down lower by the week. Only his loyal Fanbase like Aaron Fischer by example lie and exaggerates the outcome gross of his films first outings and weeks following and does the same negativity on films he hates with a passion like Flash, Blue Beetle, & coming soon Aquaman 2 after Aaron goes to that on a free ticket. Doesn't like giving WB money so he's like a childish free loader sneaking in for a free showing only to talk trash of it later on youtube.

[@edique9772]

All it took was the Studio to make one bad decision, and Zach Snyder has become a God!

[@Snzn_7]

I feel people felt the same way when Marvel took in Spider-man. People be like "No Marvel can save Spider-man from Sony". Or James Gunn/GoG 3 will save MCU

[@edique9772]

@@Snzn_7 yeah, but Sony held on to Miles Morales and they're back on to of the Spidy-verse

[@Stealthybat39]

ya WB literally gave Snyder 3 movies, they legit are dumbasses

[@fulcrum6760]

@@edique9772 Spiderverse is the only thing holding them together.

[@dobi287]

Studio made a series of stupid decisions and continue to til this day

[@jonathanpartido]

Dude thank you lmao. These Snyder fans’ inability to be open minded makes me so mad. But this video.. Sums up all of my feelings toward DC fandom nowadays.

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

We are open minded. You want to shut the door on a successful fan loved series. That’s close minded af. I liked joker and black Adam, I am very open minded. Why can’t you just let me have the snyderverse? Why do you care that we like something so much? It’s getting insufferable to deal with people like you. You are a hypocrite

[@rzn2258]

Are you going to go after the Star War Fans next ? You weirdos

[@anonymouslyunknown4811]

​@@rzn2258 boo hoo

[@johnoconnell5004]

I'm an open minded fan of DC. If some new show or movie from DC comes out, I'll give it a try and watch. If I like it, then I'll keep enjoying. But if I'm not into it, then I stop and just go about my life.

[@gontse1386]

Open minded for what? We want to see a continuation of the Snyderverse

[@ryutak777]

Snyder is not the best director but he isn't the worst one. Hating him or loving him is weird because we don't know him or who he really is.

[@kylezimmerman9690]

Very low iq quote

[@ashesfrombones]

when people say "i believe he's a really good guy", people don't know shit about Zack, they just scared to piss the cultist

[@tawn6388]

Right? I've never heard that statment made nearly as routinely toward any other director. It should be okay to criticise his movies without giving him a gold star.

[@Master_of_Merol81]

Snyder could have calmed down his fans in time, he could have disapproved of their bullying, but he never did, that makes him a bad person, more concerned with his own ego than the consequences of it, there are fans who claim that these behaviors of his fans are not his responsibility, false, if he had drawn a line of respect towards his fans with those who do not think the same, these bullying attitudes would have decreased and could even have stopped. That's why someone like him and his philosophy are incapable of understanding a character like Superman, period.

[@gontse1386]

​@Master_of_Merol81 we will continue to boycott dc We want to see what happens after ZSJL

[@Master_of_Merol81]

@@gontse1386 ...ah, ok.

[@JimmyLee-b1w]

@@Master_of_Merol81 Snyder was in a panel acting like a jerk saying how comic fans have to “wake the f***k up” and accept that their heroes would “lie to America” and do other awful things. He’s also gone on record saying his he’d want Batman to get prison r***ed.

[@lukegraham317]

He literally had 100% control for rebel moon 1-2 and look at those absolute garbage heaps of movies.

[@ethanjannes7587]

You could just as easily call pink flamingoes a garbage heap of a movie

[@trevonpernell0814]

I think the SnyderVerse would've turned out better if it was presented as a DC Elseworlds project.

[@michaelb2226]

It wasn't presented as a main continuity either. Hell it is *heavily* influenced by an elseworlds noncanon story.

[@trevonpernell0814]

@@michaelb2226 The Injustice game to be exact.

[@michaelb2226]

@trevonpernell0814 tdkr. Injustice was released in the same year. Whatever impact on influence it had was little to nothing. Even if so, so what? Injustice is a great game with great success. Characters in different depictions and turning evil has been a trope since the beginning of comics.

[@928studiosinc06]

The Snyder Cult is one of the things that truly DISGUSTS me on the internet. I don't think that Zack Snyder is a good director, but I can confidently say that I thoroughly enjoyed his Justice League movie, and the reason being is that I thought it worked as an Elseworlds version of the team I love so much. Just because I liked the movie doesn't mean I need to go around and yelling at people who don't like it, because that isn't cool. These are like the people that criticize anything Star Wars nowadays without even viewing the project in question. To those who like to think that Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League form the greatest comic book movie trilogy, then that's fine. Like what you like. It doesn't say anything bad about you. However, if someone disagrees with you, don't give them a hard time just because you can. Before I end this off, there are much better trilogies under the DC name. The DCAU Trilogy with Batman, Superman, and Justice League (Unlimited), The Dark Knight Trilogy, The Arkham Trilogy, and even (to a certain extent at this point [IMO]) the Crisis on Infinite Earths Trilogy. While I can appreciate those who like Zack's work, I cannot agree with how they showcase their "love".

[@andraw4002]

I agree. I really like the Snyder cut, but the characters are blatantly misrepresented almost to the point of assassination, and a reboot was beyond necessary as a result. Love the Flash scene toward the end, hate Ezra Miller's portrayal of The Flash.

[@MCKidProducer]

I like Zach Synder but I don’t like his DCEU, and I don’t really put the blame on him tho I feel like WB rushed in to BVS bc Civil War was coming out, and I feel his approach to storytelling isn’t good for the dcu, he’s too nihilistic which I feel could work as a else world Superman trilogy in the vain as TDK trilogy, but in a fully fledged dc universe he’s need to be optimistic to have a baseline of morality for the other heroes

[@MCKidProducer]

Also kinda ironic the nihilistic version of Superman garnered up a cult

[@dobi287]

You have that backwards actually Civil war came out bc BvS was announced. Google Russo Brothers BvS

[@ethanjannes7587]

Broh it’s the other way around

[@ethanjannes7587]

And this rushed into shit narrative is really creaky because the production schedule for BvS was pretty long meanwhile every Russo movie after winter soldier was fast tracked

[@fulcrum6760]

Zack Snyder legit ripped off the COD Zombies lore by making Army Of The Dead by implying there is a time loop and alien involvement. What's next? Dave Bautista fighting a Lovecraftian entity?

[@crinsombone5380]

Basically it's the sunk cost fallacy. They wanted Snyder to beat the MCU so badly that they won't admit when he makes a bad movie

[@midnightlumina7]

The Snyder Cult exists because KZbinrs like Midnight's Edge and Geeks & Gamers promote them.

[@ArkhamCityKing08]

This needs a million views man great job

[@megatron2171]

I still remember a month ago i found a post where they said James gunn's superman will not or can't beat zack snyder's scene where zod fighting superman in metropolis. Bruh we barely see anything from james gunn's superman and somehow they are having this future foresight where nothing he made will top a scene where superman fighting zod and barely trying to prevent the destruction of metropolis. And then they brought up the whole superman logo from Gunn's superman and said it looks like the SS Nazi logo like bruh

[@Doctor_Idiot]

I am a snyder fan, currently working on a fan made project based on his cancelled projects, but I ain't one of those ppl who keeps begging netflix to own the snyder cut

[@MyDeeroc]

Joss whedon got threw under the bus bro he is a amazing director and producer

[@mainstreetsaint36]

He was, and then he got that Marvel money. After Avengers his style changed way too much. Justice League/Age of Ultron era Joss Whedon would be laughed out of a room by Firefly/Buffy era Whedon.

[@herriothilaire1]

Trash

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

No he’s not amazing. Every set he’s been on he’s been accused of harassing people and berating them. Especially if they’re women. You can say you never heard that but if you search it anywhere online, you’ll find it. Avengers 1 was sick tho

[@seanyonthemic]

I’m a person who enjoyed Man of Steel, I have my issues with some things, but overall I enjoy it . I agree there is a Snyder Cult and it’s hard to watch…and annoying lol

[@faith4657]

Hey I mean true but again you have to understand that people have been attacked and trashed by other people even though we just try to get along, Zack was attacked by DC comic fan boys instead of just letting the plan play out.

[@seanyonthemic]

@@faith4657 I certainly agree. The problem was the studio wanted one thing, Snyder envisioned another. I don’t believe Snyder was the guy to lead DC as a whole. He pitched a five arc film it seemed and the studio wanted to do a similar thing as marvel with the solo films, except all the other filmmakers had their own ideas and they couldn’t come to a cohesive continuity. I like the idea of his 5 arc film (even if the story wasn’t perfect and had A LOT of flaws I couldn’t get behind). I liked Man of Steel and his Justice League. But from what I read about the later vision I don’t think the rest of the story would have worked the best…it’s certainly sad the studio did him wrong, but I think his fans are far too heinous against the current state of thing without any of his playing out yet.

[@faith4657]

@@seanyonthemic true not all of his fans are like this but there are still ways to go and I just decided to give these guys time they will come around eventually, when I first heard the news I was sad Synder wouldn't get the time to shine nor will they be continuing what Synder did as well as all the others living like henry Cavill, Ben Affleck and the rest it saddens me that we wouldn't he to see them again, even though I'm sad I'm still happy it's going somewhere

[@THAMAINMAN2025]

Mangold doesn’t rile up his fans. Frak ZS.

[@chrisj2083]

Great video You had a lot of rational and valid points. I don’t understand the Snyder & to some extend the Cavill worshipping. As if Zack Snyder is the only director in existence who’s capable of making a DC film. Just like how the Snyder cultists hated/hates Gunn for letting go of Henry Cavill Cavill isn’t the only actor capable of playing Superman We’ve had a lot of great actors playing Supes in the past, hell we had Christopher Reeve who’s still a fan favourite, just like Sean Connery as James Bond. We even have a great Superman actor with Tyler Hoechlin on Superman & Lois in my opinion So to me, the character is more important than the actors playing them, and I won’t judge Superman Legacy yet, but I’m going to see it, cause I love Superman The best thing we can do is be open minded to everything going forward

[@silencedmaxim5889]

As a fan of the Snyderverse, I can understand why some people hate on the movies. They're gritty, dark, and depressing with a dash of hope at the end (more like the smallest pinch of hope at times). They're not for everyone, but they're very well put together for the audience they are intended for. That said, James Gunn's reboot of the DCEU will fail tremendously because he is not the God of directors, Zack Snyder. Praised be. -Just gonna say that last bit was sarcasm because too many people don't know what sarcasm looks like when it's staring them in the face-

[@Cere6l]

Thank you for letting them know this people here and the guy that create this video need to grow up

[@lazuruswolf6668]

To be fair, it’s pretty hard to read sarcasm on the internet.

[@silencedmaxim5889]

@@lazuruswolf6668 That's because most people don't know how to read properly, but that's just my take on the issue.

[@lazuruswolf6668]

@@silencedmaxim5889 no with major factors with sarcasm is not what they say but their body language and tone of voice. Things you can’t hear or see when reading something on the internet.

[@itsauguste]

It's not really that people can't see sarcasm, it's just that there's so much weirdos right now out there in the internet that have mindsets like these that it's hard to conclude if it really is sarcasm

[@BillGriffins]

BATMAN WILL FOREVER BELONG TO SNYDER I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS.

[@biguy617]

You want to make a good alternative to Marvel with DC. Then portray the characters correctly!!

[@darkhypergojira]

I gotta say Batman’s BVS suits are the best live action Batsuits

[@benjamingomez1761]

I kinda knew Snyde had cultist since 2016, I vividly remember the 1st BvS trailer and the comments on how that movie was going to kill Marvel, even then Civil War was better in every way, since then they have been the main laughstock on cbm and comicbook fandom, how just like a cult everyone has that same douchey personality and are pretentious af, and how they never touched a comic yet think they know DC, its so funny how much Ls they take and how delusional they are

[@reality7078]

Shout out to Jodys Corner for making the term “Snyder Cult”

[@The_Randumb_Channel]

This perfectly encapsulates what is wrong with Snyder fans. They have a blatant refusal to acknowledge the subjective nature of movies, or to accept that Snyder has any flaws, it's like they close their eyes and block their ears whenever someone is talking bad about the dude, without even for one moment considering the evidence or perspective put forth by his detractors. I love Kevin Smith movies, they have been a massive part of my life since I was 13 years old and watching Mall Rats on VHS for the first time, but it doesn't mean I don't think Yoga Hossers was gold 😂. You lose all credibility when you blindly follow any artist and think they can do no wrong

[@gamervet4760]

I got into it once with a Snyder fan. It was over Man of Steel. I brought up the fact that Zack didn't like comics. He was more into Watchmen because of the adult themes. This is why it's his first comic book movie, and people don't like to talk about it. I don't know why. It's a great movie that Zack made. Anyway, he also threw a piece of info at me that I was 1000% prepared for. He said that Zack got into heavy metal and had to walk away from comics for a while. I instantly knew that was Gerard Way's words from his launch of Umbrella Academy. Because Gerard is an actual musician. These people are fucking nuts.

[@TheFunnyGuy9000]

Good video

[@randynguyen9778]

How come no one ever mentions the charitable the Snyderverse fans have done. They raised a lot of money for suicide prevention.

[@tesytes318]

Is it for people who seen his movies?

[@randynguyen9778]

@@tesytes318 No it's for his daughter who committed suicide and I'm being serious on this matter.

[@randynguyen9778]

@@tesytes318 James Gunn fans who would probably spend money to one his Pedo party.

[@tesytes318]

@@randynguyen9778 ohh ok I see

[@elin111]

@@randynguyen9778 The moment you try to use the "Gunn pedo" argument you've exposed yourself as part of the cult an lost any and all crediblity or rationality you could've have. It's been proven a million times that those tweets were taken wildly out of context and done over a decade ago yet the Snydercult continues to vomit the same one garbage insult over and over and over like it is some kind of infallible smoking gun no matter how many times they get called out on it.

[@InterdimensionalCowlick]

I thought MoS was ok. It had flaws but I thought it was a solid enough start to carry forward from. And then, omfg, they carried forward :( And Cavill has all the charisma of a vanilla 2x4.

[@evilalex87]

love snyder and most of his films and prefer them over the mcu stuff , love the guardians films , bvs ultimate is one of my fav films ever

[@ethanjannes7587]

Dude I actually don’t think it’s a stretch to say James Gunn and Zack Snyder are in totally different leagues it’s like comparing Kevin smith to Ridley scott. U could say clerks is a way better movie than body of lies but you’d be referring to the movies’ respective abilities to fulfill their own respective intentions. Basically you have the guy who does the one basic thing he set out to do *okay* and you have the other guy who is trying to do a whole lot to subjective degrees of success. The only reason to say James Gunn is a better director than Zack Snyder is to affirm that he’s safer, more pedestrian

[@johnoconnell5004]

I really like Matt Reeves' take on Batman. I don't care what the Snyder Cult thinks.

[@biguy617]

I hate Batfleck as much as I hate Snyder Superman

[@wambokodavid7109]

Batfleck as a concept was alright.cavil was wasted

[@bradleyrenfroe2776]

Same here. Batfleck aka Bat-Punisher

[@RedEyedWolfTV]

i would say i am a big fan of Gunn, Snyder, Villeneuve, Scott, The Russos, Reeves, Stahelski and Leitch but i have been disappointed by some of them before.

[@tahnadana5435]

because zack snyder gaslight them, no other director does that, his a clown, just like kevin smith

[@GonzoGoesToBitburg87]

Just saying, Nolan is not that much different than Snyder...

[@aaronmiles2802]

Nolan is actually a good storyteller, unlike Snyder

[@benbrown4899]

snyder is a really bad director. his movies are just horrible

[@dobi287]

I can save everyone 12 minutes the "cult" was formed when it became fashionable to mock snyder bash his movies and fans which really jumped into high gear for 2013 man of Steel, when bullying and gaslighting the fans of the moves grew to an all time high in the josstice league era. Everyone complains about the problem they created, from screen rant to Collider it was acceptable to attack Zack Snyder and co and it was unexpected that the fans did not cower and take it and apologize but instead they became hardened and ferocious. Honestly I love it bc it makes ppl think twice about bullying and jumping on a bandwagon. Most ppl suffer from group think, oh Michael Bay sucks! Clooney bat nipples hur! hur! Oh snyder is a hack he fundamentally doesn't understand comics marthaaa! You're snyder fan not a DC fan ...

[@topaz3452]

I recognized some of those Pokémon songs

[@esk8unity]

its funny how ppl call us “cultists” when we have passion, love the depth and symbolism… haters alwayssssss get angry when they see us ENJOY things. I dont love all his films, but Mos and bvs (ultimate ed) are masterpieces.. if u type insults to someone that enjoys the depth and vision, than thats on u.. Gunn vision is WEIRD. Guardians came out “good” because the mcu fans LOVE this forced humor kinda vibe. look at draxx, mantis, peacemaker adam warlock and many others forced humor thats nothing like there characters . cult like behavior is ACTING like gunn is good cuz guardians does good in the box office. But u go to snyderverse it did GREAT at the box office. but yall only wanna use that tool when it suits u. THATS CULT LIKE BEHAVIOR. superman/mos was comic book accurate . its a grounded, non confident, unsure of himself YOUNG superman. hes not perfect . theres politics, media consequences and catastrophes… adam warlock was NOTHING like his character like . u saying “i Am JeSuS” was symbolic. it wasnt to show he wants to be actual jesus. again, THIS IS CULT LIKE BEHAVIOR. i agree u can make a comic book movie that doesnt need to be all kinds of authentic. BUT its gunn fans that pull that string when it suits them. not the other way around. u talk bad about bvs and mos being bad and u cant even explain HOW/why. just because u dont like the depth and symbolism doesnt mean its not great. HOPE is all over MOS/BVS . time to go back and pay attention

[@heysoundsworth]

This is a very cult like response, I gotta say “Everything MCU bad, everything Snyder masterpiece.”

[@benjamingomez1761]

MOS and BvS are as depth as a puddle, now go back with your echo chamber and feed your cognitive bias, cause we will keep laughing at your cult

[@gbygby7by7by8nym8]

U guys put Zack’s face in pictures of Jesus. Ur a cult like maga

[@jimbobiscool1256]

I still would like to see man of steel 2

[@THAMAINMAN2025]

Channels like yours keep me sane. I keep seeing a channel promoting ZSJL like it’s gonna happen. 😂

[@biguy617]

Well Birds of Prey wasn’t from Snyder. That was Walter Hamada being woke

[@ZatannaFan94]

Woke again enough with that silly word when there's any female lead

[@biguy617]

@MrJJDIZZLE23 the movie is full of bad writing and bad acting. It is full of "The Message." It is a Birds of Prey movie without the main founder Batgirl. That is like trying to do Justice League movie without Superman.

[@theroguerider]

Only director who has knocked it out of the park EVERY TIME is David Fincher. I love Alien 3 and I know that controversial. BUT I also recognize that this conversation is subjective. Its opinion. It’s art. It’s mine.

[@LaCream973]

4:20 name of the song please

[@gamervet4760]

7:47 He's okay. Just never been in anything I actually love.

[@johnpinna]

I think there are always the "extreme" on any side of the equation. There are people who love Marvel movies despite how just God awful they've been since IMO Infinity War. I think many Snyder fans are just defensive because there's always this very loud chorus of people that just can't wait to slam the guy - some of it seems quite contrived in my opinion. For example his latest release Rebel Moon - I actually thought part one was good but very choppy (which is my typical reaction to the "Snyder got edited" version) and Part 2 - I really liked. However, the reactions from people who hate Snyder were just over the top of my opinion. I generally have really appreciated the Zack DC movies - and before that I absolutely loved Watchmen and 300. I really like the university had created and wanted to see more . That being said, I'm looking forward to James Gunn's DC universe but I will miss the DCEU

[@MOVIE.KNIGHTS]

were not a cult - were die-hard DC FANDOM That hate having are franchise messed with by a bunch of people who know nothing about DC Franchise

[@heysoundsworth]

I promise that Snyder doesn’t know more about DC than James Gunn… or even me for that matter

[@theroguerider]

I think changing comic to screen is fine, but when it comes to story and minor changes to character. These books have lasted as long as they have because the PERSON is compelling. I really like Echo in the comics, recognizing that she’s basically taskmaster’s power set, but the show just changed it all and turned it mystical and I find I just can’t enjoy it as much. Is the show bad? No. But it ain’t good either.

[@Critic_Chris90210]

Their hatred of Gunn, im gonna say this as honest truth, You can replace Gunn with anyone outside of Snyder/Nolan/Matt Reeves but without a doubt these Snyder snobs would give that person the same kind of hatred they are giving Gunn now. Replace Gunn with someone else, Snyder Cult are gonna whine to the heavens and insult them like Gunn, WB replaces them too with someone else and you'll get the same results from Snyder Fans each time. Because they wanna dwell on something dead and never gonna make a comeback. In the slightest chance it did, WB is just gonna lose more money listening to them once again. Honestly, this is common sense being seen. Snyder moved on to other projects but his fans cannot do the same,lol

[@maskofshy]

6:13 depends on what you expect to look when you heard that. "humble hero" i think his reserved persona speak the loudest. also - 1st Scene with Clark in DCEU, leaves Job to save oil rig workers. (even saves the rescue helicopter) - helps in different jobs. - as a reporter shows interest in helping the little guys - when criticised by media, clark just phonecalls his mom. ♥ you could say.. but THE IM AM JESUS SCENES! THE I AM JESUS SCENES RUINED HIM! here's the funny thing about... the comics show he's a messianic figure, meaning , in the sense the he's kind of a chosen one! (and Clark is quite aware of his power above other heroes) and weirdly enough, some Dc fans too: weird when they say "Superman is NOT a religious figure" and the same time say "he's the ultimate expression of Goodness". Superman / Clark Kent... He isnt Spiderman (with almost infinite power, comes almost infinite responsibility) , he isnt Batman. Superman doesnt act like a cop, POWER doesnt corrupt Superman. Tho in comics The use of power has corrupted Batman in different occassions. Superman is a rescuer. and.. thats what he does in the DCEU. Him going to visit a school is as Superman. as him leaving job to save a mexican girl. ....... SURE STILL SuperCavill is an alternative version of Sups sure, but man.. with all due respect, You got this a bit wrong. IT IS still adapting from the core of the comics. (just in a way you dont empathise much... which imo is okey.. but i think you could gain something by learning a little from those others that did empathised for good reasons) About #DCU i think Gunn will do well. and i bet consdering he knows how to be more expressive, will play better with audiences. he'll deliver something you & many others will enjoy alot.

[@mikerude5073]

There was no need to put him in a situation to kill Zod, nor allow his dad to be killed to keep his secret. The best take on the character in moderm times was STAS.

[@Jay_Walker92]

Snyder fan right here..I love all the DC movies that Snyder did especially Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League. I don't click with any of the movies Gunn has done because they're just too goofy that's why I'm not looking forward to anything he has coming.

[@bestlexluthor7596]

Right. Same here. It’s a subjective thing. I think people defend him so hard because when dc first started with man of steel weirdo marvel movie fans ( I’m guessing comic book collectors ) felt threatened like it was a rival sports team and would trash man of steel if the mete topic of movies came up. Im not someone that enjoys comic books and most comic movies. I liked ZSnyder’s because they took themselves seriously and felt more like dramas. It’s just a different taste and weirdos would make fun of me and say I’m crazy just for liking something different.

[@shaanvinoth9277]

Your opinion. Just don't force it upon others

[@bestlexluthor7596]

@@shaanvinoth9277 nope. Forcing an opinion is a pretty dumb concept

[@dt5327]

I am by no means a person that thinks all Snyder's movies are great but his justice league was epic

[@Stealthybat39]

still not better than the Avengers or Guardians movies.

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@@Stealthybat39way better than both of those wtf 🤣

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@edittzz4175after avengers 1 it turned to ass. The entire universe turned into so corny joke world. I was balls deep first avengers, watched it like 3 times in theaters. Everything after SUCKED ASS

[@KennAKALeo]

I'll take the "Joss-tice League" over the Snyder Cut every time.

[@genericyoutubechannel3790]

I don't condone hating on people for whatever reason, but I've genuinely never seen more hate for anyone than Zack Snyder. I've seen multiple dozen comments calling him "Hack Snyder" and I've even seen people say that they're glad his daughter died. From what I've seen online, I'd say there's a bigger Snyder hating cult.

[@jonathanbunting7010]

I like Zack Snyder. I don't like all of his films. I loved Man of Steel because I thought it was a comic-accurate Superman depiction (of his character, not the story), just not Christopher Reeve-accurate. Superman is quite lonely, at first. And there are multiple interpretations of the character in comics. Superman kills Zod in the comics, too. Batman v Superman was a poor theatrical cut. The extended addition was quite enjoyable, however both have a very good performance from Affleck as a far too murderous Batman. The theatrical Justice League was utter crap, but that was Whedon's fault. The Snyder cut was amazing. I don't like 300, I love Watchmen. I don't care for most of the rest of Snyder's films. I LOVE Matt Reeves' The Batman. I am very much looking forward to the rebooted DC Universe and am really looking forward to The Flash film. I'd have liked to have seen Snyder complete his vision with a 4th and 5th film. However, my main goal is to see a successful DC Cinematic Universe. I believe we have more of a chance of that under James Gunn.

[@wambokodavid7109]

Super man has never been lonely because he doesn't see himself above humanity... he's just a guy.he has people around him.his parents, Lois, metropolis....I see why you worship Snyder coz he also failed to see this.

[@jonathanbunting7010]

@@wambokodavid7109 I love how you're basing this on your view of Superman and not how the character is written. So, go back and read the comics. Additionally, somebody who worships somebody else wouldn't find flaws in their work. Snyder mishandled DC, overall. He specifically doesn't understand Batman at all. It seems like you're just trolling to make drama while also talking about stuff you know nothing of.

[@Godzilla-tu2cd]

This man be spitting facts 💯👍🏿👍🏿

[@randynguyen9778]

Wait so we can't be passionate about Snyderverse or show support if we do then we're considered to be a cult.

[@elin111]

There's a mile of difference between being passionate about something and being toxic about it. The Snydercult 100% falls into the latter the way they bully and harrass anyone who doesn't give a 10/10 to everything Snyer puts out, attack and shit on anything that doesn't have Snyder's name on it, act like James Gunn is the devil incarnate and vomit out whatever fabricated non-argument to hate on him even though the Snyderverse had been cancelled long before Gunn took over, have in fact made public claims that they will attempt to review WB projects no made by Snyder and have in fact attempted it even though it failed every time, I could go on but you get the point by now.

[@randynguyen9778]

@@elin111 You make it seems like James Gunn fans aren't capable of doing the same thing or do you think that Zack Snyder fans are the only ones.

[@randynguyen9778]

@@elin111 They Snyderverse fans have bullied for years but when they fight back you called them a cult. They have raised money for charity something no on talks enough about that.

[@Melanie-jy2nw]

@@randynguyen9778so do the fans of BTS. It’s a thing fandoms do, that doesn’t change the fact that the fans can be toxic and cult like.

[@randynguyen9778]

@@Melanie-jy2nw So then all fandom are cults then.

[@insan3d]

It seems like you are assuming anyone that supports Snyder are blindly doing it, or in a cult. That is obviously not true and honestly way too extreme of an opinion dude lol. This really just seems like sensationalism and you have tunneled your vision into a silo like twitter for your vetting of overall analysis. You brought up James Gunn, go look up his pedo tweets from 2010. I personally like Snyder movies with a few exceptions. One of the best parts about the Snyder cut of Justice League was that he dedicated it to his daughter. He said he wanted to make something she might have liked. The Snyder cut did something not often achieved where the director ended up having full creative control and released the total vision, that's why it was so long. It was awesome though. The Josh Whedon cut was hot garbage. Snyder had left the set earlier because of his daughter and couldn't finish the movie. ... Batman vs Superman was exactly like the Frank Miller comic I read when I was younger. Man of Steel was badass. just my 2 cents additionally, cinematic universe always is a combination of new creative direction on top of the foundation of source material. it's not just one or the other. You also default to the same argument each time, with no evidence or analytic basis, saying people that like a snyder movie are a cult. It's pretty degrading and unnecessary imo. It's also lazy in terms of a debate. SO you don't like some of these movies. That's all I see you have presented, I didn't hear 1 thing you provided that explains why. And it's not a cult if they aren't coordinating with each other in a system of organization around a religion or figure. You are misusing the word cult lol.

[@Snzn_7]

Yeah, I mean any fandom that arr significantly large in number will have members that takes things to extreme. Pointing out one and calling it a "cult" and just end there seems lacking in substance when there literally fandoms out there that almost anyone in the internet knows that does things even more extreme than what are mentioned in the video.

[@insan3d]

@@Snzn_7 I figured cult was being used loosely in the video, since the standard definition requires some leader or religion to form the "cult" group. So an analogy or derivative of the standard cult definition might be what is happening in the video. No big deal, I just like Snyder movies starting with 300, and onward. Just a preference since I grew up with the comic books he creates the movies from. Not saying he is the best director of all time, but I like a lot of comic book movies, pretty much all of them. I'm not part of a cult it just sounds insulting really to have everything so generically bundled together in the argument the video presents.

[@pats3212]

Found the cultist

[@NobleRaider2747]

Gunn literally apologized for his tweets in like 2015, but right wing assholes mad that he criticized Trump decided to dig them up and parade them out, making him apologize a SECOND time and making him temporarily lose his job What the fuck does Gunn have to do with anything, anyway?

[@Stealthybat39]

cultist spotted

[@scottmikkelson3168]

Thanks for working Big Red COD Lover in there.

[@MyDeeroc]

The cult started with batman vs superman theres alot of deeper meaning in the movie that people are passionate about.

[@Critic_Chris90210]

Snyder's known flops would be 300, Sucker Punch, Watchmen. I agree on what you say on James Gunn. Snyder Cult are flat out boycotting every DC movie Not directed by Snyder, Nolan & Matt Reeves . Why i know this, Example is Aaron Fisher and people like him being Toxic Negativity Spreaders. They all want to compare DC heroes to Nolan's Batman for the sake of Dark/Gritty and realism & because of his trilogy, they think that's the success idea for any DC character no matter who their name is. Wrong, simply Wrong! Superman is the flipside of Batman like so many, many DC heroes. Nolan's Batman is good because of the way he made those films and Batman is easiest/most popular DC character to do it. So Snyder Fans, let's take what Nolan did, and make every single DC hero just like Nolan's Batman. Nolan's was involved in MOS, so that says it all! Snyder doesnt care to be apart of a big DCEU anyways, after JLU Snyder Cut, he was gonna be done. So after 5 Snyder directed movies, thats it. Aaron Fisher and many Snyder fans say it themselves. They're being toxic by boycotting every DC movie not directed by Snyder, The Flash, Aquaman 2 not yet released and already being trashed Before it's release over a trailer???? Same thing BlueBeetle, They're saying anything/everything about Gunn & WB to see that DCU Does Not Happen.

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

Didn’t read all that, not going to. Wasted your time. But no we’re not boycotting anything. Aaron Fischer is just not watching the new movies because they fucking suck 🤣🤣 I watched the joker and black Adam. Liked them both, and I’m a hardcore snyder supporter. So you’re lying and you’re wrong

[@masquerader101]

Sucker Punch is his best movie in my personal opinion. I dont even get much a kick out of 300 🤷‍♂️

[@giftmpho876]

well i love all his movies does that make me a cult member

[@habibjamalibrahim1207]

No But if you hate every DC movie not directed by him then....

[@gbygby7by7by8nym8]

No. It’s the people that put his face on pictures of Jesus. Same with maga and trump

[@thetru-drushow8412]

I Agree with you on that statement!

[@Snzn_7]

Every fandom that has a "hardcore" fans among there fandoms, will have people in sade fandom that takes things too far. The thing is you can just point out one fandom for this. When you think Snyder fans are cult like. Just look at other fandoms who even takes things wierder than Snyder fans. Look at K-pop fans, etc. Etc. Heck remember how people labeled James Gunn/GoG 3 as something that will "save" MCU.

[@gamervet4760]

4:52 Every MCU project, new or old, felt/feels half baked to me. Ironman was great. The rest was kinda meh.

[@masquerader101]

It kinda all comes down to how him and his hardcore fans have a huge misunderstanding of what healthy masculinity is. In other words, this is a blatant case of ACTUAL toxic masculinity

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

I like where this is going. All of his supporters idolize people like Leonidas and Superman. Strong, ripped, beautiful mfs. Something you will never look like, none of you here. You don’t see an ounce of yourself in the protagonists of Zack’s movies. That’s why you all hate him. If that’s toxic masculinity then he’ll yes that’s us. Regular toxic is just you all here. There are more vitriolic haters of zack snyder than there are fans. You all are the toxic hate cult

[@vidurasankalpa]

Toxic masculinity? Do you understand what that word even means? Dude even the female characters in snyderverse is toxic af, even lois was supposed to cheat on superman and wonder woman killing without a reason isn't good for a superhero. snyderverse fans like snyderverse because it's dark, snyder cultists also like it because it's dark, it's that simple.

[@elin111]

@@vidurasankalpa That is dark done wrong. It's just dark for the sake of "Look how edgy and R rated I am bro!" with no real substance to it.

[@dreadfuldeadlinesessaytuto3892]

ALL of his movies are bad. Some less than others.

[@jonesjustin1985]

Bro Snyder had been gone for years and now platforms like yours can’t keep this man name or the fans out of your mouth! Deal with it bro! 😆😆😆

[@heysoundsworth]

It’s funny how this is the only response cult members ever come up with. “Oh no please don’t criticize Mr. Snyder 🥺”

[@jonesjustin1985]

Names calling really??? Very professional bro! I didn’t say you couldn’t criticize Snyder I said why do you keep this man name in your mouth when he’s been gone for over 10 years but I’m the cultist? Hilarious bro! 😆😆😆

[@wambokodavid7109]

@@jonesjustin1985 u are a cultist and it shows.

[@maxmcqueen1196]

​@jonesjustin1985 I didn't see any name-calling on his part. You seem a bit think-skinned, my bro. Maybe get off the internet for a bit, bro.

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@@maxmcqueen1196he called him a cultist… you illiterate rat.

[@StuntmanDanHemi]

I was opened to Gunn's take, but these gunn fangirls are the ones getting annoying AF, they are showing some trump level of hypocrisy, they are the ones who can't stop bringing up the "snyder cult" every chance they get, Exhibit A: THIS VIDEO. Now I've seen some snyder "cultists" just trashing for the sake trashing alright, but what I'm seeing is the MoS hate all over again, this is exactly what happened when MoS came out, but now Gunn's fangirls are on the opposite side and you know what... GOOD, them "too depressive, i didn't feel hope, colors are not right, not source material accurate" wackos deserve it, they trashed a good movie just because it wasn't the way they wanted it and now they are getting their karma. So i repeat, i was opened to gunn's take until his fangirls started running their mouth, now i hope his movie FLOPS HARD and by the way the comment section of the trailer is going, it already has the majority of people disapproving, the people have spoken 🤷‍♂️

[@heysoundsworth]

Pretty much nothing you said here is actually happening lmao

[@StuntmanDanHemi]

@ that's called being in denial 🤷‍♂️

[@heysoundsworth]

You literally described valid criticisms of MoS as just fanboy delusions. A movie can’t be objectively good, so you acting as if Snyder movies are… that is fanboy/cult like behavior.

[@tjuk8050]

​@@StuntmanDanHemi You're correct. Everyone is making fun (in a bad way) of diaper man and cgi dog.

[@gbygby7by7by8nym8]

@@tjuk8050diaper man? Ur not a dc fan. U don’t know shit

[@mupicap7927]

You said dat u love most of Gunn film. But its a no for me. Im the opposite. Did not like most of his film. And his humor didnot land for me. I felt cringe tho. And The Suicide Squad r Great? Hell nah. Its a hot garbage. And i agree some of ur opinion.

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

This comment right here. Everything

[@MyDeeroc]

Batman vs superman setup all the most dark stories of dc. Robin suit,batman killing it made u wanted to see more batman, lex luthor truthly hate god not superman but the closest thing ti god was superman. Im over synder films but i understand his movies and fanbase they see the potential in his vision because it dies still have potential. James gunn a better look

[@Geralddd966]

Bvs is a masterpiece ,rewatch

[@bestlexluthor7596]

I love MOST of his movies . BVS UE is my favorite movie of all time and after that it’s the other 2 ( MOS and ZSJL) . I don’t generally like comics although I appreciate the artwork talent. Then there’s 300 and Watchmen which are also probably in my top 15 flicks ever. Guardians is an entertaining movie to me due to the animation . I actually like ( don’t love )Sucker Punch for what it is.Its fine. I’m not into zombie flicks so I’m not big on Army or Dawn. Rebel Moon part 1 and 2 I couldn’t believe what I was watching. But I’m confident in directors cut. Weird though

[@angeldaviani8678]

MuschiettiVERSE NOW

[@Sathya_1996]

💯

[@cyprianokobi7452]

Ok to be honest u sound like a James Gunn cult defender. James Gunn is legit creative. I will give him dat. But Zynder Justoce League was the turning point. They should have let him finish the trilogy, "Mic drop" PS. Batman VS Superman was trash

[@habibjamalibrahim1207]

Why would you want him to work with the same company that screwed him over?

[@TheFunnyGuy9000]

You proved his point

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@@habibjamalibrahim1207because the people that screwed him over are all gone. The only execs that remain are the ones that were supporting him

[@Imflashguys]

Snyder literally suports James guns dc him and James are actually freinds

[@TORTURETALK]

😅 bro you made a video about Zack. You have to hold a BIG L 😂😂😂😂

[@heysoundsworth]

Good ole Snyder Cult copium caught in the wild

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

Y’all are the hater cult 🤣🤣🤣 Hate cult

[@Imflashguys]

This is sad

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@ you weirdos actively hating on movies you don’t like for YEARS is fucking sad

[@Imflashguys]

@STELLAR_PRIME well I only watched this video today so you still being mad years years later is the sad thing if anything bro

[@STELLAR_PRIME]

@@Imflashguys talking to you incels is like talking to a wall made out of shit. You and the rest of the inbreds here relentlessly watch videos like this and make negative comments about movies that are 10 fucking years old. Nothing is more sad than that fat ass belly hanging over your belt