THE Soothe 2 killer? - Waves Curves Equator

[@massivebeatzz]

Soothe is great - tje price is inflated, and unrealistic. Surprised it takes so long for competitors and improved versions to come onto the market...Now we have several to choose from.

[@blakematthews6374]

Probably a patent issue. I first heard about soothe in 2016, maybe 2017? Patents are like 7 years. The timing lines up. Kinda like how Kemper was the only thing that did what it did and now there are several alternatives.

[@Themosaicsound]

I remember when soothe first dropped it was mind blowing lol now there's so many different types. Good time to be a producer/engineer.

[@lilgbolahan]

For us who do live sound, it's a game changer 😊

[@RobRuffMusic]

how much latency does it use though? seems like a plugin like this would make live sound impossible. I know soothe 2 ads like 80 ms

[@lilgbolahan]

@@RobRuffMusic I think they will be releasing a version for live sound

[@the_handsome_bear]

This plugin isnt bad at all. Good job Waves

[@marksaxon_plays]

Looks good but I wouldn't buy a new Waves plugin at this point. Their constant "pay for updates" model stinks. Between Acustica Dove, The Smoother and WA Deres, I have most of my needs covered. I think Oeksound's GUIs are very nice. Great video and review!

[@audiotoolshed]

Yeah you know, WUP stinks because its so blatantly obvious. But I still happily run v11 plugins and havent used wup since those version came out. Also many other developer have WUP as well, but they call it version 2, 3 and 4 of a plugin ;-)

[@Jg-be7it]

You can run waves plugins without the update plan. They work just fine.

[@solarion33]

probably only Mac users needs constant updating , if a current versions works you don't have to update..

[@marksaxon_plays]

@@Jg-be7it I had v12 and had to update to v14 when I had Catalina installed. Wouldn't install otherwise. Waves says v14 only supports up to the current OS (Sonoma) so I'm sure v15 will be required on Sequoia.

[@marksaxon]

@@jasoncruizerAnd thanks to that same code, most of the viruses and malware exists. Be better. There’s room for everyone and I never threw shade at folks who like a Windows based system.

[@sssyntax]

Anything that can tame that sound at 2;45 so well is good for me.

[@digitalmarketinghumans]

This only makes it better for consumers considering how expensive Soothe 2 can be and yes, it's great, but man, this Waves Equator is awesome, especially multi band feature. They'll probably come out with Curves Compressor soon or something like that.

[@audiotoolshed]

yeah the ''curves'' will be a series of plugins of sorts. But I dont know yet which ones will come.

[@Drfresh1402]

I do have a fascination with plugins like these and I feel it's a relatively newer type of dynamic plugin. Sounds great. Will most likely pick it up.

[@rebirth4119]

So I do like that Equator works both as resonance suppressor and tone shaper(towards pink noise) but I think there's one thing missing. The problem resonance suppressors tend to have is that you spend a lot of time fiddling around because either its clamping down too hard on formant frequencies(which also affects transients) or not enough and is harsh/muddy. I feel like if they had a parallel mode using the delta(and isolate the group of frequencies you want) you could reintroduce certain uncompressed resonances just enough so the overall sound feels balanced but not lifeless. For those wondering, the pink noise frequency response is generally sought after because it's frequency energy is balanced per octave(leading to a balanced sound). But you don't want your sound to follow this 100%- you still need certain resonances to give the sound tonal qualities(rather than sounding more like noise) and act as transient information.

[@oinkooink]

These kinds of plugins wouldn't know a problematic resonance inside the context of your mix from a hole in the wall.

[@rebirth4119]

@@oinkooink That's not what I'm saying though. I'm not wanting the plugin to make mixing decisions for me actually . This plugin is a spectral downwards compressor that that follows the target curve you set. You don't need it to recognize what are the problematic resonances actually because you can actually introduce some of those resonances in parallel. The delta function on plugins like soothe 2 allow you hear what frequencies you're attenuating(which will be resonances). Now if you took this delta function(with a high/low pass to isolate specific resonances you want) and had it as a parallel signal to the compressed signal, you would a clean, balanced signal that still has important resonances.

[@oinkooink]

@@rebirth4119 I just use an EQ.

[@rebirth4119]

@@oinkooink Oh for sure 🙂 if that's what you like. Just many find that a very time consuming process(especially if you have a lot of synths/instruments).

[@stevenroach2296]

@@oinkooink These things do seem like a glorified EQ.

[@rafaelamartins1372]

Funny how he says Waves gets 'zero for originality,' but then goes on to show all the ways it's different from the competition… I mean, this one has way more features, and you’d basically have to buy all the competing products to get what this one does. Plus, it looks super easy to use. That sounds pretty original to me. I’m definitely going to check it out..

[@audiotoolshed]

Yeah because he is right. It is not original at all what the plugin does, resonance supression is one of the hot plugin topics of the last few years. That doesnt mean that it doesnt do its job REALLY well ;-)

[@oinkooink]

The bloke is literally on the Waves Equator Audio Deluxe sale page. He's a salesman. And we all know what salesmen are like.

[@stevenroach2296]

@@oinkooink Oops. Guess he forgot to mention that.

[@jrgroberts]

I have various resonance suppressors and don't much like them. It's worth remembering that actual musical instruments consist of resonance generators. On synthetic instruments they are more useful. IMHO they need to be used minimally and with caution to avoid producing nasty synthetic noises....

[@danielkisel5661]

nice what about cpu usage of these two does one consume noticeably more or less cpu than the other, and which would be more suitable for gentle master correction for mastering?

[@RobRuffMusic]

This actually sounds better/Smoother and more transparent than Soothe 2... I get a ton of artifacts with soothe 2 with my low end vocals

[@mikemccormick1624]

Thanaks, Marlon! Another really great video.Even though they are fun, I still actually learn something!😃

[@servdv]

We have a million eqs and compressors, why does everyone either think soothe 2 cannot exist with other plugins. And the othet thing is the originality thing i like never options for different technology.

[@dahlhousestudios]

Great vid! Just when I thought I was out, Waves keeps pulling me back in! Word's spreading fast on this one. I reviewed it a couple days ago and I was blown away. I found it as powerful as Soothe 2-more in some ways, yet less prone to artefacts. For $40, it's hard to find a reason to NOT buy this one. Do you think it's going to become a daily-driver for you?🤔 (Shoutout to fellow Cubase user btw!)

[@mikeillgaming4224]

Gotta try it out ... Im using soothe trial version right now .. $200 is too much

[@envisagefilmshouston]

The waves sound warmer and less scratchy

[@GloveBunniesVideos]

I never got Soothe but Baby Audio's Smooth Operator does a similar job. Waves Curves does have more control and features. Thanks Marlon!

[@teddym2808]

Smooth operator really isn't a good plugin to remove resonances. It's a decent de harsher which is a different thing, or a space maker. Soothe 2 was the most overhyped plugin of an entire year when released. I ended up spending so many hours learning every nuance of it so I could at least say I wasn't to blame when I couldn't get results. For removing resonances, what it was designed for, it's actually *terrible* and to me the worst of all the resonance removing plugins. To de harsh certain frequencies, THAT'S where it had some use and it should have never been advertised as anything but. I sold it and never looked back and will never fall for forum hype again and trust my self from now on. To remove resonances, nothing I have tried so far can do it like WA Production deres. All that one does it what it says, remove resonances without fudging up the source sound. I have so many A/B comparisons of getting instant results with that and spending an hour with soothe and it couldn't even get close. And the price of soothe, just outrageous.

[@GloveBunniesVideos]

@@teddym2808 Yeah the price always turned me off.

[@melchiorvandijk6138]

@@teddym2808 that deres is just a dynamic eq? I guess it's a static thing like RESO

[@teddym2808]

@@melchiorvandijk6138 Reso is not static, where did you get that from?

[@mygoogle1525]

​@@teddym2808 I find Brainworx bx_refinement(was free recently,maybe still is) amazing to take the harshness away. I use it with W A. Deres and T-De-Esser2(free). All of them are quite light on cpu.

[@dna598]

I do love that song "Embrace the Night", but the vocal could do with a lot of this type of processing! Did you mix it?

[@traezaX1]

200 dollars vs 39.99 and does work great ...I'm getting this.

[@darrellroseborough7275]

Hey brother white noise, the key element and that's afforability. like $200 basically doing the same thing. well not exactly every little nuances but close enough to get the job done. Thanks for all you do great consistent content.

[@josemorbass]

Muchas gracias! Gran video, muy bien explicado.

[@PhatNoizeRecords]

Does it have mid/side processing? Especially in your Vocal ducking example it would possibly make sense to duck guitars in the mid spectrum only and leave the sides untouched. Thanks a lot!

[@audiotoolshed]

It does.

[@jasoncruizer]

Even if it didnt have mid-side, you can used the vst DDMF Metaplugin, which will make every plugin mid-side.

[@PhatNoizeRecords]

@@audiotoolshed thanks 🙂

[@media11x]

What plugins would you prefer for live eqing concerning latency ? Waves Curves, Silk, soothe, or another?

[@TBURNATV]

I Love Waves !!! Since 2000

[@amarokids]

I really enjoy the way Curves works. And of course… more possibilities… better result

[@Mikkelethor]

I got SA-3 after your video about it. It does the job for me. Great video!

[@wesstarmedia]

I like waves and have never had to upgrade. The negativity that some have towards the company is uncalled for and childish.

[@SoMyungJung]

Hate to admit it but after a few days of use, I like this one better compared to Soothe 2. Even feels wrong to say it lmao

[@paulsearles]

Wow. There's a bit of Soothe in there but it has the 4 bands of shaping like Bloom as well. It copies Smart Eq too with the analysis and has a standard Eq on top of it all. It also does a healthy dose of Smooth Operator. I like the interface better than all of them. $39 to replace all of this? Ouch. Let's see how it sounds...

[@DerekPower]

I see it as being similar to a number of plugins already in the market, including the obvious Soothe 2. All in all, this is Waves's answer to a number of different tools. The way I see it: if you are still in the Waves ecosystem, it's a great addition. Otherwise, you know what options are available =D

[@audiotoolshed]

Yeah spot on.

[@DaveChips]

I actually see myself using this... just depends on CPU. I have Melda Spectraldynamics wich is kinda over engineered and very specific, and spectral modules in ozone seems too CPU taxing do be used in mixing. If this performs well,maybe its worth getting if it hits that CPU/Simplicity ratio... as price is already decent enough.

[@audiotoolshed]

@davechips It's around 6% CPU on my system, buffer is 1087 samples ( = 22.6ms at 48khz)

[@InaktiverUser]

on vocals should i use the waves curve equator first in vocal chain to clean up before mixing my vocal or after my vocal chain to clean up the already mixed sound?

[@hightyde]

What’s the cpu on this one compared to soothe2? I like soothe but it sure hogs cpu

[@moerahman6749]

@@hightyde I would like to know as well.

[@unknownadventures6248]

ive heard it uses far less cpu and has less artifacts

[@jeremyg2245]

This plugin isn’t bad. But waves is.

[@spaceiswater6539]

I make experiential electric music 'without' any vocals would Equator work for me or would it not be needed?

[@audiotoolshed]

Sure, but if you ''need'' a plugin like Equator fully depends on how many nasty resonances at all you need to fix.

[@lomatv4144]

Can you make best tape machine plugins comparison ❤

[@ramspencer5492]

Of course waves was working on one of these... What is this interesting company because with all the jump they have... Or the dated stuff, that's still used because it's second nature to a lot of professionals. They actually do have a few gems. Better not to write them off entirely, Especially since they went over to a more affordable model. Actually I'm not sure what model they're using now... Do you get Free updates to point at least?

[@mygoogle1525]

Nope ,you don't

[@oinkooink]

Whoaahhhhhhhhhhhhh look at the cool graphics and bouncing waveforms and speckles it's AWESOME!!!!!!!

[@johnmcvicker6728]

Just add God Particle

[@trayoibry8246]

isnt there a way to change the db display i dont need 35db range 12db - 18db is more then enough to display....and also like melda does a realtime GR number would be helpful instead of guessing how much the upper blue stuff gets down...

[@audiotoolshed]

I fully agree on that. Have the GR display inside the frequency display would be much better.

[@therealdjap]

I drank the plugin Kool-aid

[@hazardmouth1420]

I was thinking about it. But waves always leaves a bad taste in my DAW

[@marcfelsenstein2080]

Used already in 4 mixes, it's saving me a lot of time fixing my own mistakes!

[@kostyavasilkov4571]

Nice!!

[@erezfish]

Wow!!!! Thanks waves 😊

[@29djandy]

Very much needed. Thank you Waves

[@bobbyweezer]

😂

[@unclejohn8520]

How about the latency?

[@hahahehe4885]

How much cpu this plugin use vs soothe 2

[@gorogne]

What about Ozone stabilizer? 😎

[@paulmisty8998]

sounds shitty

[@AnwaarAliOfficial]

I use ozone stabilizer and compared it with sooth2. I liked the Stabilizer better than sooth. I do use Silk vocals by waves for vocals and Stabilizer for instruments.

[@paulmisty8998]

@@AnwaarAliOfficial I don't like Stabilizer. I deleted all iZotope plugins, cause they sound superficial.

[@razorgarf]

Good, hope that'll get Soothe2 price down

[@Soundcup]

@@razorgarf same. I would never buy waves anymore in my life due to their update plan. Just hidden costs that you never know ow what to expect. If it puts a bit of pressure on soothe and they will lower their price I will buy soothe in a heartbeat

[@realraven2000]

looks great. but for the topic of side chaining to make space for masked signals, track spacer is still king. its so much easier and faster to use than soothe & Co. just tweak the low/ high range and use amount and your reward. then tweak M/S and attack / release on the advanced page. very easy to get transparent results.

[@IamHovaFlo]

@@realraven2000 hey u think trackspacer would be the better choice for getting vocals to sit better in a two track instrumental?

[@realraven2000]

@@IamHovaFlo Absolutely, on top of that it is very easy to use. It sounds very transparent up to 12-15%. Use it in Mid side moden and go more towards Mid, so the lead vocal gets lots of space there. It's also very MONO compatible. Make sure to use the band limiting - low cut up to 180-240hz depending on how much "Low space" your vocal needs - high cut to taste. For a lead vocal I would go with a fast attack and medium to fast release and you will get a totally transparent result. You will simply hear the vocal much better without feeling the cut in the instruments. You can also use it for make low mid - high mid space for lead vocals in the backing vocals, again M/S is good here as BVs are usually wider anyway, and this will be extra transparent and make lots of space for the Lead without affecting the impact of the BVs. It's just the easiest way to do this quickly and transparently. Don't go too heavy on the percentage it should not feel like "ducking", just turn it up so that you get more clarity in the Lead. Also can be used for lead guitars or other lead instruments, to give them their "body" back in the mix.

[@NickWaves]

I still think DSEQ3 is better at suppressing resonances.

[@beatsandstuff]

DSEQ3 and Soothe2 are all that I need, Reso/Smooth Operator are just ok. Waves is late to the party imo.

[@NickWaves]

@@beatsandstuff M-Clarity by Techivation is pretty good also, but I think it works best as a de-boxing plugin rather than suppressing resonances.

[@alejandron1]

I've been loving Soothe for several years now, after working with this for a short while - I can honestly say I'm enjoying Equator's flexibility much more. DSEQ3 also sounds great but its interface is too much for me.

[@Rhuggins]

Totally unrelated question: those two compressors (at least they look like comps) behind you. Specifically to the left of your head when viewing the video (so YOUR right side when filming). Big white-ish VU meters. Are those Daking comps- or perhaps Chandler LTD2s? I cant tell

[@audiotoolshed]

In the rack in the background or totally to your left which is stacked on top of eachother?

[@Rhuggins]

@@audiotoolshed they appear to be racked in your desk

[@audiotoolshed]

Ah. In that rack nothing fancy is happening. From top to bottom: Warm Audio WA273, a custom made ssl bus compressor ( no GSSL, but made with SSL 5000 series boardsand parts), RME UFXII and a patchbay.

[@Rhuggins]

@@audiotoolshed OH theyre EQs!!! That explains it. The white buttons looks like VU meters, and it makes it look boutique. Im sorry for the off topic comment, the curiosity was killing me!!

[@fallenleaf24]

the best thing about it is will force Soothe to lower in price.. as £167 is rather crazy.. & in the year I have been looking at soothe im yet to see it have an offer price. its been full price all the time. (I could well have missed all the deals, its not like im looking daily or weekly)

[@audiotoolshed]

I basically see it for 199 euros all the time as well, but I might have missed a sale somewhere somehow.

[@fallenleaf24]

​@@audiotoolshed not that its not worth the money,.. but really! Thanks for the review! It's not on my list of considerations.

[@Iceleben]

They usually have a Black Friday discount

[@fallenleaf24]

@@Iceleben I much have completly miscast years. as every Tim eI have looked its full price xD I will keep my eyes open

[@djtroydanvers]

Similar to melda spectral dynamics

[@LauraLobo8]

This is great! Can’t wait to try it. Waves has been killing it!

[@teddym2808]

1:40 Nothing can save that sound, that was painful. You'd seriously use that in a song?

[@danbenhaim3362]

Definitely a game-changer! Thank you WAVES

[@kelvynification]

If this works as well as Soothe 2 plus multiband and for $39 it’s a steal. And you only need to WUP of you have a new operating system.

[@jasoncruizer]

You only need to WUP if you use Apple, Waves version 1 from 2 decades ago still work on windows 11.

[@dumdumreviews7436]

Soothe 200Euro vs Waves Eqautor 40$

[@YungstarProd]

@@dumdumreviews7436 plus 240/year for the rest of your career.

[@fescolfaro]

My first impulse would be "waves? No." But i bought soothe 2 times. And stopped buying oeksound plugins after spiff and having to buy soothe twice (because the first version just didn't work, so they fixed it and named it -2-). Now this looks a bit like Soothe with a touch of the bonkers expensive (for what it is) Bloom. And I'd have to update it 4 times after buying to get to the price of Bloom, or three times to reach my price for a functioning Soothe... The end of the story, i don't know, maybe "waves no" 😂

[@Hostilityme]

TB Proaudio DSEQ3 is a great tool, much cheaper than Soothe 2, and has many more options to modify its processing.

[@JosephOnThe]

Love waves! Looks amazing 🙌🙌

[@hazardmouth1420]

I wish I shared the same sentiment. Have fun buying your plugins again when it comes time to update 😭

[@saardean4481]

For me the only soothe „killer“ is Arbiter

[@fallenleaf24]

I haven't found anyone using this publicly yet. so hard to tell.. yes I have watched the actual vid on this as I have been a Prism user for a long time!

[@saardean4481]

@@fallenleaf24 You are waiting for someone to „publically“ test it? Why don`t you simply download the demo and compare it by yourself? Your opinion is more important i think. Thats why i said For Me. Because i tested it in real life and in my usage scenario

[@fallenleaf24]

@@saardean4481 I know what I’m like.. & I will only use a demo if I have already been convinced. & during the demo period which may. It be long enough I may find my self making rushed choices. So I first like to see & hear some neutral side by sides before making a choice. This way when I get the demo & life stops me from being able to test it thoroughly I’m not then rushing to a conclusion because of a time limit. & I mean the demos for both soothe2 & Arbiter!

[@saardean4481]

@@fallenleaf24 i hear ya. I personally never questioned soothe 2 and never compared it to anything until i had a case where it felt like its simply not enough and i started throwing all similar tools on this one track i wanted to process and it was killing my nerves . At this time Arbiter had come out and i bought without even testing it cause i like TDR plugins and their policy and want to support this kind of developers. So when i actually tried it i had to admit that arbiter sounded more refined and for quite an amount. Well then i wish for you to find your answers soon. Cheers

[@fallenleaf24]

@@saardean4481 I like TDR too! so this is well worth me looking at! I have no imidate need for either so hence why I have not gone right in for them xD but I know that if I like soothe then I will just buy it.. & kick my self later if there was a cheaper alternative so I will keep my eyes peeled for comparisons. I will take what you said in mind! & for £40 I cant really argue :D as soon as I hear what it does I know it will be a no turning back moment xD thanks I hope I doo to! all the best!

[@GrainPiece]

Definitely a Sooth2 killer! Downloading now!

[@Gedagnors]

It's the wallet's killer.

[@Six2Nine]

Waves? Yessir!

[@lonelystranger57]

Similar to RESO from Mastering the Mix 🙂

[@paulmisty8998]

not at all. Reso uses static dynamic EQ points, Soothe uses adaptive dynamic processing. Reso is much more like any dnymic EQ that you set up by yourself ;)

[@lonelystranger57]

@@paulmisty8998 yep, agree, RESO is more static then Soothe

[@EricLumiereMusic]

Soothe has always sounded cardboard boxy to me....not sure what it is, but seems to flatten everything...

[@Music-tg5is]

What about comparison with TBProAudio DSEQ3?

[@Lofi-Dreamscapes-Radio]

if like me u use soothe2 to make percussion sound more comportable u cool and dont need that one.

[@wisdomjaya]

New hottie in TOWN !

[@tez4792]

I saw her first.

[@jocke1972]

Looks more like Baby Audio smooth operator

[@audiotoolshed]

And Baby Audio got their inspiration from...? ;-)

[@cal1music65]

I think Smooth Operatoe is cool in SC Mode but it behaves pretty weird for controlling resonances, especially in the high frequency area.

[@djvoid1]

DSEQ3 has all this already apart from the multi-band sensitivity, which would be useful

[@georgeg4136]

Nice video, nice comparison ! For me, Soothe 2 is the king

[@hughlawson5399]

never forget waves dodgy business practices. a company you can't trust.

[@audiotoolshed]

They absolutely did mess up not too long ago.

[@frozenkingdomBM14]

@hughlawson5399 thats why I own all their stuff and have never paid them a dime and I'm gonna do the same with this as soon as r2r cracks it lol

[@HermanvanGelder]

And then there's the waves update program so no matter what, Soothe wins. Screw waves!

[@audiotoolshed]

Happily running v11 plugin here on windows. No need for WUP at all so far.

[@DannyGouchi]

Yep that’s the only thing that puts me off using waves, update program, shame on you waves.

[@cobraofearth]

Yeah, running Reaper on Windows and still using plugins from the 90s no problems...

[@stevescooking]

Soothe is king, always will be.

[@thatlogicproguy]

No Thanks. I am good on Waves.

[@hamisheginet]

Waves? No thank you

[@Riktenstein]

@@hamisheginet Is it 39 dollars? When you install it will you have to update the centre software for even more money and have your old plug ins stop working.

[@blurryfaseswayez9238]

Waves the only company that makes you rebuy plugins im straight 😂

[@hazardmouth1420]

@Riktenstein we're on to you waves. I decided to remove a large amount of my waves plugins because of this reason. Their business model is very shady, charging their customers again on order to update the plugins they already have should be criminal. That being said this does look like a useful tool 🤦‍♂️

[@Riktenstein]

@@hazardmouth1420 i have sooth and use it daily for work so a great plug-in. Should probably be priced lower now the competition has turned up.

[@thomasschwab3386]

Good video. But im done with waves too.

[@johnnythelion.8670]

Yo, isn't this what ANY sidechain compressor does? 🤔🤔🤔 😑😑😑

[@rafaelhernandez5550]

The bigger different that I can see is that with Soothe 2 is one time payment and with Wave Cuves Equator you will be paying for your life time. Thanks

[@Mix3dbyMark]

It's not a resonance surpessor

[@kadiummusic]

surpessor? 😁

[@thelinkofperfectioncharity9469]

Soothe will never die🙌 😂😂😂

[@fischergreen4134]

I wounnt buy waves plug ins if they were the last company on Earth

[@Ozfish75]

Better off buying soothe because waves will try and get you on more fees etc later

[@dashark1988]

waves? hahah. no thank you

[@EannaButler]

Waves are great!

[@mygoogle1525]

​@@EannaButler Plugins,maybe. Company,not so much

[@EannaButler]

@@mygoogle1525 Fair enough

[@iamdoomedmusic]

the only thing waves kills is their customers.

[@audiotoolshed]

I think they will laugh at this comment with their turnover.

[@iamdoomedmusic]

@@audiotoolshed I bet they do

[@georgyj111111]

I'm not very keen on israeli products at the moment........

[@GC-nd1lp]

I'll buy it to make up for that then.

[@papatoni3311]

idc if it guarantees me the greatest mix of all time.. I'm not using waves

[@brennyC]

Sorry to, i feel better the music when it "Bypass"

[@Harrysound]

Waves goodbye 👋

[@-VADIASIK-]

The Soothe 2 killer? Funny.

[@kazvt]

Reminder that Waves is based in Israel

[@audiotoolshed]

7 Offices or so worldwide by now.

[@kazvt]

Still an Israeli company whose headquarters is on stolen land, choose who you support wisely

[@Andre_Blais]

Point being?

[@kazvt]

@@Andre_Blais point being some people have a backbone and do not support businesses on stolen land

[@stevenroach2296]

@@kazvt Stolen from who?

[@rudimassyn3015]

Honestly, plugin companies are out of ideas.

[@alfredgrupstra]

Waves sucks, I hate the way they handle clients. Besides that it's Sooth killer no. 10 on the market so Sooth is dead!

[@tekis0]

Personally, I'm refraining from purchasing products made in a certain country UNTIL they STOP the violence over there.

[@jdoppler]

Completely agree... and someone removed my previous comment. It seems that the "certain country" is unquestionable.

[@GC-nd1lp]

Waves has software deals with Google, Dell, Intel, Toshiba, Sony, LG, Qualcomm, Acer, and Audeze. Good luck!

[@Mike-vr7mb]

£39 per year no thanks

[@kadiummusic]

It's not per year. 🙄

[@Mike-vr7mb]

@@kadiummusic Sure!

[@stevenroach2296]

@@Mike-vr7mb It's not.

[@Mike-vr7mb]

@@stevenroach2296 it is!!

[@therearenoruleshere]

Waves = Lames

[@audiotoolshed]

Bit tames.

[@ronmoes42]

I'm still not convinced that this is a Sooth killer, Sooth is special and I still keep it on my wishlist, even though it costs 200 dollar, which hopefully will drop a bit. The multiband functionallity of equator gives away that equator is not like Sooth, Sooth does a much better job of removing harshness! The same could be said about Waves Silk when I watched the review. Instead of trying to beat Sooth 2 , Waves should focus on getting awesome plugins emulations on the market! They have been messing around too much lately with plugin concepts which look aweful and modern and their unhealthy focus on A.I is also raising red flags! I would ratrher see studio gear emulations of famous units being crafted so people can get the gear their like but can't afford.

[@kadiummusic]

Doesn't make sense.

[@stevenroach2296]

Competition is good and it just may drive the price of soothe down. You don't think that is good for us?