The South Park Episode About Immigration

[@TheBitLifehistorian]

as a Mexican, we will always remember our king mantequilla

[@damianpulido239]

¡Olé!

[@deletethis7848]

Better than AMLO and the woman who looks like a villain from Wallace & Gromit at least

[@noelramirez1551]

@@deletethis7848 you could say that about any politician theyre all old and old people look evil

[@ILovePancakes24]

@@noelramirez1551 you have to trade your soul in to become a politician

[@metalmilo]

ALL HAIL KING MAN TEQUILA

[@Mister-seeks]

Butters ain’t even a Mexican but he always has to do hard work 🙏 leave butters alone 😭

[@Lovesalads06]

He's too innocent

[@zeldafan7410]

We give him the pass

[@manaburnout9892]

I remember hearing something like, if you think someone took your job, it just means a billionaire or corporation found someone they could exploit more and pay less for. And nothing makes them happier knowing you blame the immigrant and not him, the one who fired you in the first place.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

The immigrants are tools. It's easier to fight them without their weapons. Class consiousness develops easier in a homogenus society due to the fact that they are connected by a common culture and even extended blood ties thus can focus more on how to better their community/ society overall. In a heterogeneous society different groups will compete for acess to resources of the country/society to benefit their group at the expense of the other and thus cannot form a united front against the bourgeoisie. Your solution is as idiotic as making the Native Americans work with their colonizers for their "common good" It's asinine.

[@imnugget8085]

This is why we should make illegal immigrants illegal and they shouldn't be able to get any job in the u.s so the corp has to pay citizen

[@blindey]

Real.

[@redcoat4348]

This is a wild idea, how about you feel angry at both the corporation AND the guy who took your job?

[@PvblivsAelivs]

The "billionaire or corporation" can be treated as an inanimate object, subject to the force of gravity. If it can get the same work done for less, it will. If a large rock falls off a mountain onto your house, do you blame the rock, or the person who removed the dirt holding the rock up? Incidentally, there are laws against hiring illegal immigrants (the ones who did not come through a border checkpoint and who do not have a work visa.)

[@nickmattio3397]

“You’re either a MexiCAN or a MexiCANT!!!”-Cartman

[@GeekyMagpie]

i mean that is originally from once upon a time in Mexico, i believe between Danny Trejo and Johnny Depp

[@bluebeka2458]

I preffer to be a nonexistent person. But here we are living like humans. Smh

[@valley5882]

Same with with Canadians and Can’tadians

[@e7thstar]

🇲🇽🌮🌮

[@alexismartinez5410]

I like to say when you're in America you're either native american, an immigrant or a murikkkan't... The last one being the European squatters 😂

[@tuongpham7609]

They’re eating the dogs, they’re eating the cats remix is fire.

[@no_one01-5]

The Kiffness has a good one too.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

I love cats

[@Oliver300Dude]

Saying that South Park is "unbiased" is really funny. Unpartisan maybe, but I'd never say unbiased.

[@markborishnikoff5485]

At this point, they're in the democrat's pockets. One word trump. I rest my case.

[@blindey]

Everyone has a bias, or a position, on everything - It's hilarious to think "Oh I'm not dems OR repubs, that means I'm some enlightened centrist" or something. They have stated positions, they're big libertarian types. It has come through in dozens of episodes.

[@Oliver300Dude]

@@blindey Precisely.

[@templatename2143]

they said less biased not unbiased and with trump anyone that's not him is less biased

[@gamephysics3943]

And your stance inherently becomes biased based on your opinion of Trump​@@templatename2143

[@EbenValentine]

i legit tried to skip the beginning cause i thought it was an ad

[@CruisM]

Sensitive much

[@tucanfernandezsouto1459]

I'm from Spain, are there really those kind of ads in USA??

[@ZeroPlanB]

@@tucanfernandezsouto1459the left will try anything

[@TheBitLifehistorian]

Yes😢

[@King_Barbados]

@@tucanfernandezsouto1459There are too many of these ads. It’s really annoying.

[@theseeper422]

I really like that South Park uses a messed up but also creative way of showcasing political and social problems within our society and how stupid we are for allowing them

[@mattolivier1835]

"WE"? I didn't allow any of it. Nice try socialist.

[@nook7189]

Working at a hotel and resort with plenty of restaurants, at one point we had an ICE bust, lost like 95% of our housekeeping and dish washers. It was horrid. No one was applying, both departments were desperate for assistance, guests were complaining about their rooms not being cleaned that day, dishes at the restaurants were pilling up and we were running out of clean silverware constantly. It was so bad the assistant general manager of the resort threw on an apron over his business suit and started doing dishes. This went on for months. And people seriously think American citizens are going to be rushing towards those jobs opening up? Pffff, yeah right. We were never able to hire enough people to fill in all those spots. We only got enough housekeepers and dish washers back when another “3rd party employer” stepped in.

[@pikamaster001]

The wage wasnt worth it. Its simple. You sell your Life Time ( Hours) for money. When you think 11 dollar isnt worth your life you dont accept the job. The Owner was unwilling to pay the cleaning staff more because it would hit his or the Managers Paychecks

[@dkxtro2562]

@@pikamaster001 That goes for most jobs but there do are some jobs that just no one wants to do. A really good example is pension care, at my place just no ones wanna do it but the amount of elderly people is steadily on the rise. Why wipes grand A5S if you can serve people in a restaurant

[@AezlyndWanderin]

I thought of applying for a housekeeping job but then left the application on the counter and walked out when I saw the terms they were demanding of the workers. The contract demanded a worker do things like perfectly clean at least 6 suites an hour including scrubbing the bathrooms and only paid in the companies special payment card which had a fee to transfer to another bank of 12% of the amount being transferred + $5 and a cash withdrawal fee of 25%. Then there were the hours. They weren’t set but instead the worker had to agree to always be on call. Don’t worry about that messing with their vacation time because none was offered and a clause said they had to work every holiday because the hotel would be busy. Their proposal was predatory at best and it’s no wonder such jobs are mostly filled by illegal immigrants because they’re the only people who are desperate enough to accept such abuse but sane enough to not off the guests.

[@stevedavenport1202]

Well, there is some truth to both arguments. We need legal immigration to fill these jobs

[@Dapper_Dean]

The right wingers are blinded by their hate. No logical thinking whatsoever.

[@burnall9983]

Fun Fact: Mantequilla means Butter in Spanish

[@knightgale2120]

The jobs thing is deeper, american companies are leaving for cheaper labor

[@yonaguy6978]

Basically those cheap factories in China but in the USA, worthy business endeavor

[@knightgale2120]

@yonaguy6978 it's not just items, Amherst a company that owns 10s of thousands of houses and rent them to Americans are moving operations to costa Rica, John deer moving factories to Mexico, and medical companies moving headquarters over seas for lack of taxes. It goes deeper. Even if it's cheap items like bikes, cups, and other, we need factory jobs and the like in the US because it absolutely strengthens the economy, and starting pay is set higher than minimum wage. Honestly, what I like about trump is his willingness to bring manufacturing back to the States and will place tariffs and restrictions on any American company attempting to move operations.

[@damirk3]

​@@knightgale2120 interestingly USA with its allies destroyed and looted eastern european factories and resources and gave us democracy, slavery(yes Slavs worked for western companies without pay), sexual slavery and drugs. I guess the loot has dried up:)

[@mrguiltyfool]

The cost of living is too high in the west for our wage to be competitive.

[@knightgale2120]

@@mrguiltyfool that's the dumbest thing I've read

[@torvus249]

I've always believed that companies should be forced to pay illegal immigrants identically to legal citizens. If the companies are forced to pay them equally, there's no incentive to hire them over the legal citizen.

[@dkupke]

But…the bottom line! You socialist!

[@damiangaming5696]

The Problem being they dont have Social Security and can dodge some taxes. Meaning they add a Net Drain to those resources for American Citizens

[@fenrirgg]

Companies are not supposed to be able to hire illegal immigrants, but there are legal loopholes that allow hiring anyone that shows up. And those politicians that want to deport all immigrants? They create the loopholes 😂

[@ywx99]

Even if you do, many Americans don't want to do those jobs, you don't see illegal inmigrants working in a big company, but rather crops, construction sites and heavy labour. I think american companies should pay better

[@NoName66426]

Many illegals earn the same amount as Americans doing the same job. The thing is Americans typically do not want to do those jobs. I brought an American friend to do roofing with us once, he quit the day after 😅

[@nathanfallin2750]

it’s cool how South Park boiled down the fundamental trade offs of immigration quite accurately. immigration bans are very similar to tariffs in that they help protect one group of American jobs at the expense of the rest of the economy.

[@aroc420]

You’d be surprised how many Americans come to Alberta, Canada for work in the oil & gas industry.

[@dieselsupplyco.2721]

Y’all better get that under control lol I know lots of Americans leaving and Mexicans also going to Canada

[@alltheunreleased6140]

⁠@@dieselsupplyco.2721so mix with them lmaoo

[@sonofatlas1372]

Me Im up here now 😭

[@just_your_localguard9612]

heck I might move up there if prices keep going up. I can't even afford rural living anymore.

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

@@just_your_localguard9612 Canada is double expensive.

[@geoffreyrodgers5373]

The USA Vs Japan argument is a dumb conclusion. It's affected by a million factors. It's like me looking at a short person with money and my tall self without money and concluding that short people have it better.

[@Dreadlock1227]

Agreed, and when he talked about how good the economies of the UAE and Saudi Arabia are I kinda took exception to that too. Like I guess it depends on how you define a good economy. Yes there’s lots of money in those countries and some extremely wealthy people with very high standards of living, but those standards of living are built on extremely underpaid, exploited workers who make up the majority of the population. So it’s kinda hard for me to view those as “good economies” when the majority of the population is living in poverty.

[@robertmicropenis5114]

@@Dreadlock1227 not to mention those countries are mostly making money off unreplenishable resources, you could just as well say that farming is the easiest way to make billions because a farmer found a giant oil deposit below his farm

[@Zarolea]

He did point that out in that argument. At 4:45 he literally says, "This is not a perfect comparison because the economy is affected by a million different factors."

[@Czarwren]

Japan has an old demographic while the US has a younger demographic, 57% white Americans vs. 98% Japan native American has turn 3rd world while Japan is stills Japanese

[@louisbowser]

Not just that but Japan has a wayyyy lower cost of living and has had interest rates at 0 for a very long time.

[@davidkafka2452]

A surprisingly nuanced take. Most of the time I see the advantage of bringing in people who are ready to work (without 18 years of food, shelter, and education) overlooked.

[@not2shabby694]

Nowadays, "foreign aid" isn't to help the foreign country. It's never a free gift. It comes with strings attached. When the u.s. gives money to a country to "help them", it's always expected to be paid back with interest. They force the small countries, who are usually at war, to sign extremely unfair contracts. Said contracts typically state that if the loan goes unpaid or is paid late by any amount of time, the u.s. is able to seize land, build military infrastructure, or receive a percentage of certain exports from the smaller countries. The u.s. knows that without a doubt, those countries will never be able to pay the interest, let alone the whole bill. The recipients of these loans are almost always in the middle of a war or a recession. Therefore, their economy is tanking. Eventually, after multiple loans, the foreign economy is completely reliant on the us or even owned by them entirely. Meanwhile, back at home the politicians and media portray it as if they were just giving these countries millions if not billions of dollars to ensure their economy doesn't collapse because they're such great people for helping out that poor country. The fact that the politicians who "oppose" foreign aid on the principal that "we need to help our own country first" and the other side that says "these people are suffering and need our help" say nothingannoy the fact that this "help" comes in the form of a loan and will give the u.s. more power in the long run, is telling. It's obvious that the American government doesn't truly operate as a 2 party system. The politicians are all friends that go out and have fun together. All the while using the system to divide and conquer the average citizen. In order to ensure citizens don't fight back against unfair and illegal actions perpetrated by the one's who are supposed to help and protect our development as a nation first desensitize the populace to tyranny through 24/7 fear mongering and never ending scandals. You then destroy their sense of community, which is conveniently a sideffect of the first step. Purchase as many media outlets as possible and corrupt the media through biased reporting and obvious lies or misinformation. This will lead to citizens either no longer trusting the media or listening to it as if it were gospel. This will cause a large divide and make propaganda 10x more effectiv. Making the last step much easier. Lastly, you foster hatred between parties through propaganda until even mentioning your political leaning in most places can lead to harassment, the loss of your family, spouse and job, or even physical harm.

[@Hannah_montannah]

Israel is getting heaps of stuff, no strings attached, at this very moment.

[@packrunnerbenji]

@@Hannah_montannahyes strings attached, the us is funding them to have an ally in the Middle East and remain in control

[@agrumpymonkey5800]

China does the same thing to a lot of their surrounding countries and in Africa

[@SpottedHares]

@@Hannah_montannahthe string is that they help keep the consort of Europe 2.0 in the Middle East going till all the oil is gone….. then their on their own.

[@craigl6978]

My question would be why the hell is the US loaning, giving or anything of the sort when we literally have a 36 trillion dollar debt that we cannot even pay our own interest on? It seems to me this is what got us where we are today when our own government cannot even use FEMA correctly any longer, our problem starts with the idiots in charge who cannot even manage their own lives or budgets and we have allowed them to manage our countries interests! IF THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THE US THEN THERE SURELY IS NOT ENOUGH TO HELP OTHERS THATS ECONOMICS 101 and anyone who has a pot to piss n and a window to throw it out of knows!

[@danielpalwisegamer]

if business had proper regulation for hiring immigrants it wouldnt be such a problem in the first place, all those imigrants are doing is trying to survive, and corporations and large business exploit them , if their forced to pay the same for them as they had to pay normal workers, they would have to consider more the value of each worker, and be more less likely to replace current workers with immigrants

[@ReshyShira]

How do you enforce it with untracable people though? Whole point is that they're typically paid under the table, because it's already ILLEGAL to hire them.

[@danielpalwisegamer]

@@ReshyShira again regulation, register everyone that passes throught, and they have to give a numbered document for every job they apply in, and businesses small or big need to always have that immigrant registered and paid the proper ammount, any deviation from said company should be considered a crime, end of story, in general i think workers should have a registry along with a system where they can get transfer and housing aid when they take a new job thats not around where they live in, be either on the goverment money of the company if its big enought, our countries needs to be better organized for country wide labor

[@ReshyShira]

@@danielpalwisegamer It's already a crime to hire illegal immigrants, that's not the problem.

[@danielpalwisegamer]

@@ReshyShira yes it is, undocumented wont speak up if their mistreated or poorly paid due to fear of getting deported, there is no general check ups for any company for hiring illegals its all done on reporting. and companies want cheap labor, a race to the bottom

[@nobbyfirefly57]

ah... so that's why companies push the agenda of exclusivity so much that they neglect the natives of the country its based in.

[@_PannieCake_]

When it comes to immigration, people tend to not want ILLEGAL immigrants, but have no real problem with legal immigration. I'm part of the group who has to worry about being replaced by people willing to do the job for cheaper (I work in custodial). The only thing that keeps me from having to worry is that they do a lot of background check at my job. If anyone comes to my town and is here illegally, everyone in town directs them to the turkey processing plant. They are helping illegal immigrants get their work visas and it gives them a job for decent pay. It's a small scale solution that tends to work decently.

[@greenyodadude]

the Haitian immigrants being demonized currently are 100% legal so I'm not sure you are at all correct...

[@christopherb501]

Then stop making it so damn hard.

[@_PannieCake_]

@christopherb501 dude, if your only defense is "it's too hard" then you didn't try hard enough. It's not as difficult as people say to come here.

[@gangji9547]

I don’t know if the situation is Even comparable to the USA, I am from Germany. Here that’s a big topic. On one side our rent and workforce is noticeable collapsing, on the other we have also a big problem with the immigration itself to barely replace the missing workers. Ether it’s not enough workers, so rent and workforce gets out of control in the next 5-15 years. Ore we let so much immigrants in that immigration is not really manageable on a quality level. So the Risk for poverty, crime, secondary society’s and problems of political outrage rise. In Germany it feels like to choose between AIDS and cancer when you think about that topic and it sucks.

[@RandomPerson-tz7wk]

And the worse part. You get both aids and cancer with a bonus tumor.

[@gangji9547]

Side note: It depends where you search on how much migrants Germany needs to be economically stable (workforce, consumer, Rent and Cashflow), but it something between 200000-400000 immigrants NETO EVERY YEAR. So it isn’t really an option to just say Germany dont do enough, it’s a real struggle to even take these numbers. In Germany a very right Partei called AFD is rising in vote numbers because of it. It’s special for Germany because of our history… It’s nothing that’s comes and go here…it’s something that here really struggles to get even big and all are still teached to be aware of these political side. I am open for discussion in this comment section. Other countries ore maybe also from Germany. I am not on any of the two sides as I wrote, it’s like choosing between AIDS… Mid solutions are for me the worst of both sides. I am interested for other opinions ore sight of these topic.

[@jaywinner328]

If you don't have enough workers, then you have 2 bakeries instead of 3. I don't see how that's a problem. Not enough houses for everybody to live in, now that's a problem.

[@mylesgray3470]

I lived in Hamburg in 2017. That was right during the controversial surge of immigration from Africa. It was really hard to find an apartment at that time and I could feel the tension. Manny immigrants were low skilled and not exactly a good fit for what was needed in the work force. It seemed chaotic. Back in the US, we have similar issues. Native people don’t want to have kids due to the cost since 2 incomes are needed to live in the city.

[@gangji9547]

@@jaywinner328 Not enough people to care for the old ones (40.000-90.000), not enough people to pay for the rent (jung pay way to much and 1/3 of the seniors are getting payment from the government because the payment is under the min level of standard of living. Companies that still are in Germany are struggling to get workers. The government has to rise taxes to pay there programs + what’s missing (for example the rent is only working at this time because the government that takes 18,6% of the rent on there own). That’s not just a bakery less, that’s a cycle as you can see. And the worst is, if you think about it, do you want kids to live even worse than now? It’s a reason to not have them and that’s keeping the spiral on the way. That’s why immigrants are in the discussion.

[@scilin8679]

I guess a couple points id like to point out, one theres a key difference between legal and illegal immigration, the second thing if you combine this video with the previous teo on gentrification and poverty, especially the part on the housing bubble, you can see how it all really starts working together, southpark does a really great job of incapaulating the issue itself in a great way, its just all of it is a large string of dominos, too many interlocking parts.

[@yng514]

Yea? What about illegal immigration? Waiting for the day when americans wake up and realize most illegals are just minding their own business, the border crisis is media hype, and the cartels dont need illegals when they have plenty of americans on this side on their payroll INCLUDING border patrol

[@mattevans4377]

Simple supply and demand shows how, while it benifits the rich, it doesn't benifit the poor. It's a race to the bottom and what should really be called the modern slave trade. Also, there is another way to increase population, but I guess people are forgetting that.....

[@mylesgray3470]

Absolutely true. The government is supporting people more and more to make up for the wage gap. When I was a kid, food benefits were super rare and now, they have gone almost mainstream, just as an example.

[@amberspark9434]

There are some industries where it is kind of needed though, particularly agriculture. If we want to keep having cheap produce we need cheap farm labor. Immigrants are the only way to do that without actual slavery, or use of prison labor (and even then you can only throw so many people in jail). I definitely disagree with the sweatshops especially the ones that use trafficked labor, but if someone willingly comes here to work and the result is I continue to have cheap apples I don’t mind it. Grocery prices are expensive enough as is, the sad truth is if everyone was paid minimum wage it would be unaffordable.

[@mattevans4377]

@@amberspark9434 We figured out that problem though. It's called automation

[@RANDOM-pf1ve]

Which other way?

[@mattevans4377]

@@RANDOM-pf1ve How do you think populations increased before immigration?

[@hawkshadow22]

I work in construction. I can tell you that my old job has now been basically entirely taken over by immigrants who were willing to hard undercut employees and that company was already paying extremely low for the trades. My current company is subbing out about half our jobs to immigrants instead of keeping our in house guys busy they lay them off.

[@thedarter]

You act as though the immigrants even knew they were replacing someone. Imagine you're desperate for a job, and see an offer that you don't really like, but you decide to take anyways because you need the money. Then a few weeks later, you get insulted and blamed for stealing someone else's job, when as far as you were aware, the job was vacant to begin with. And at the end of it all, the corporation gets away with it, because the person who got replaced was more focused on you than the boss that fired him in the first place.

[@BakaVHS]

"Immigrants who were willing to hard undercut" your bosses undercut you dumbass, the person filling the position got an offer and said yes lmao. "Willing to" and "have to" look a lot a like when your prospective earnings are so low. Americans want to fight poor people to be the most useful idiot instead of holding the responsible parties accountable, it really is quite pathetic. If we put every immigrant in a camp you'd still be a broke loser and looking for a new target to blame your wages on because someone has to be a broke loser and someone has to be the target to make the little guy as a whole feel better about being nothing despite doing a lot. TLDR it's your boss (the person responsible for offered and paid wages) obviously, use your brain lol

[@RA-ie3ss]

Strawman

[@paradoxzee6834]

There are many construction bussnies that likes exploit immigrants and do shady stuff. Paying way lower than promised, some workers are not even registered, construction companies are banking on the immigrants not beeing able to speak the language well so they cannot report to the police. Not far where I live 20 workers plus the owner of the construction site were arrested because people worked there illegally.

[@andrewyork3869]

This is why trades are such a scam.

[@jsmastrop]

I've been an immigrant and decided to bring net positive value and not eat anyone's pet. It's a personal choice about appreciating the society that you are trying to integrate into. As a foreigner, I think those who break the rules and choose to misbehave should be immediately deported and banned for life.

[@denialwrong]

We don't want them back. Send them to space.

[@bottle3124]

You’re weird I’m not an immigrant and I still eat peoples pets

[@yucol5661]

I don’t know. I feel they should be held at the same standards as the locals. Not treated like they are on life long probation or like they are a less deserving lower class. It’s all about poverty and self interest. If you are afraid your job is insecure you hate any and all fellow Americans who could be considered competition, immigrants just get hated faster because they are seen as less deserving of a wage or opportunity. If you are rich you pass laws to not give them la our protections or papers or clog out the immigration system and keep it understaffed to keep people undocumented.

[@jsmastrop]

@@yucol5661 equal rights and responsibilities, but with instant deportation for violent crimes. It’s not that hard to respect the law

[@fabianugalde3789]

@@jsmastrop Unfortunately, if it doesn't help the politicians who are the ones with the power, they won't do anything about as maintaining the chaotic nature of everyone debating for the extremes give them money

[@doutchebags]

The Goobacks episode always makes me think of the orgy whenever I see anything Terminator or one way time portal related.

[@TheFoxMaster101]

5:02 ecomomic growth has nothing to do with the wages of jobs actually higher wages correlates with less economic growth also economic growth does not trickle down and it really onlly benefits the rich the usa actually has one of the worst cost of living to minimum wage ratios for any developed country where the cost of living is more than minium wage however japan has some of the best minimum wage to cost of living and if you look at that across other developed countries the economy doesn't care who does the jobs just that they get done it doesnt care about the cost of living to wage ratio it actually opposes good pay

[@davidkafka2452]

A good social safety net can help prevent too many of the economic gains from going to the owner class

[@daxisperry7644]

I come from a very diverse town. When you don’t have a certain level of assimilation, exclusive groups form.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Mantequilla was amazing! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@crak-_-4U]

America vs Japan is a bad comparison, US has a lot more earnings but a much, much higher cost of living while Japan is the opposite A better comparison would be germany/UK vs japan/Poland (for comparing migration consequence)

[@Nebylous314]

Its actually so refreshing to see a minimally biased opinion about certain political issues thru the lens of south park

[@dominictan9696]

"What are your Solutions?" Deep in the black oceans of my mind-The Rumbling, Rumbling!

[@Agent_N7]

Immigration can be good or bad depending how you have your laws set up. If you don't have protections to require that all workers, natural born or immigrants, legal or illegal, to at least be paid minimum wage you are going to have a lot of employers abuse undocumented immigrants to pay less for work. Just like there's a correct way and a wrong way to handle immigrants in the context of labor, there's a wrong way and a correct way to handle the issue of legal and illegal immigration. The current administration has copied much of the previous administrations policies in order to avoid criticism from the right wing, but they still got criticized. They would have been better suited expanding the current systems ability to let people in through legal methods while also removing the factors that cause people to immigrate on mass, which I believe were left over from all that shit the CIA did during the cold war. Edit: also, we should probably incentivize companies to not export jobs. We can do this be giving government contracts to companies to companies that don't export jobs, possibly by helping to create more worker owned co ops as those don't send jobs over seas as they're managed by the workers.

[@dkxtro2562]

Minimum wage doesn't help. People don't want to do a lot of the jobs because they don't pay enough and they don't pay that much because paying more is not affordable As for not exporting Jobs, exactly. Outsourcing is the source of all evil. I was hit by the "they took our jobs" thing personally when I was doing translations as a sidehustle Offer to do it for less money and you always get the job, and some people just need less money.

[@Agent_N7]

@@dkxtro2562 if your entire business model relies on paying people so little they still need food stamps to survive you don't deserve to own/run a business.

[@dkxtro2562]

@@Agent_N7 Why is that? Do you think some meaningless tasks deserve a high pay? that's insane. Less skill requirement = lower pay its that simple Some business models ( like fast food ) rely on food being cheap make food expensive and the whole point in them is gone and they become a regular restaurant. You can't deny entire business sets to exist just because you think flipping burgers deserves 20$ an hour, its d u m b, dumb

[@Agent_N7]

@dkxtro2562 they're meaningless, until a pandemic strikes and everyone whines like bitches when McDonald's closes. Everything should be priced to pay the cost of labor, because otherwise we have as much poverty as we currently have.

[@dkxtro2562]

@@Agent_N7 It wasn't an issue when these companies originally became popular. The issue is not the jobs having a low pay, the issue is everything costing way too much because of insane energy prices and job outsourcing forcing downward trends in the jobmarket

[@calebpace8788]

Its called a labor market for a reason. Its all supply and demand. While immigrants wind up taking lower skill jobs, depressing those wages, they also increase skilled labor as those demands have increased. And then you have the housing market, more demand is more demand, there is no relevancy between people citizens, corporations, and immigrants. It is all just competition. And thus, the prices also rise. Same goes for food. Immigrants are good for the "economy" as its metrics only benefit mega corporations, investors, and already home owners. Thats a discussion for a different type of video though. Boils down to while some immigration is good, just like any other bell curve, it can also be more detrimental than helpful. If we imported a bunch of scientists that were okay with living in military barracks, you'd see the scientific community get up in arms about it. Same goes for any other trade/occupation. Its always about balance. Without balance it always goes to shit. As far as foreign aid goes, it's best used wisely to prop up other countries existing markets to increase jobs and opportunities as they naturally develop than to just send money for sending it. $500 million in tractors will do an agricultural country far better than $2 billion liquid cash. Because no one knows what that's country's future will be, basically just be a Gardner tending a field, adding nutrients where needed as needed metaphorically speaking. That country may not have an Elon Musk, but who says they don't have their own Henry Ford, Nikolai Tesla, or Beathoven that you can at least give a chance to. Not to sound super altruistic, but that's honestly better for both countries involved in the exchange for foreign aid.

[@uqbartlon1364]

The problem is that many USA citizens don't want to work on hard labor jobs , and all those jobs are been taken for emigrants . If a landscape employer hires 10 guys , 9 usa citizens and 1 emigrant after a year 8 of the 9 citizens quit the job but the emigrant will keep working for years , as time passes the employer will not hesitate to hire more and more emigrants . As an illegal mexican working in usa I saw this happening all time , we Mexicans use to bet on new (greengo) workers see how long they would last working among us . Almost all mexican people they got to usa 25 years ago now they own a house they stared working on a minimum wage but never quit working , now some of them have their own small companies or a small business .

[@Kallikukurinn]

I think you failed to grasp the whole "they are taking our jobs away" by stating that "haha, statistically speaking, no they are not, because with an expanding economy that means more jobs are being created". Bro, we are talking about an entirely different class of people. A lot of people have been doing the same kind of jobs for like 30-40 years and they do not have any other kind of skills and suddenly they are outsourced by someone cheaper. The newer jobs being created require you to be educated or to be able to perform better with newer type of technology. Hell, there is a reason that the Rust Belt is a thing in the US. It is not just jobs, but the TYPE of jobs that are getting outsourced. The American lower class is getting replaced by a foreign lower class in an economy that has done away with a lot of manufacturing and has become more service industry oriented. There is also the sort of economy that has been going out of hand like the housing industry where people can no longer afford to own a home and most people who want to have a family have home ownership as a requirement before having kids as no one really wants to give their own children an unstable life. Immigration is not necessarily a net benefit. It depends on how you are looking at it. If you are only looking at pure numbers with no morality whatsoever, only thinking about "line on graph goes up" then yes, immigration is good. It benefits the rich, it can make some certain goods cheaper, but overall, it does NOT trickle down. But hey, we can always say "GDP gooood". Then there is the matter of the interests of different classes as well as cultural clashes. I live in a very small nation-state and I am not interested in seeing my people fade out and disappearing thanks to us eventually sharing the same fate as the Native Americans or Aboriginals where we end up getting colonized and our own culture either erased or made to fade into obscurity. I like the way my country is and I don't need any amoral fancy graphs to convince me to abandon my peoples heritage, history, culture as well as our collective future.

[@graceinnocent1124]

Well said

[@dkxtro2562]

The entire "haha no statistically taking the jobs is not happening" is just outright false, Like you have an influx of 10+ million people, and its not happening? That's *statistically* speaking, impossible. Supposedly they have a job growth of a couple hundred thousands jobs a year ( and we all know those numbers are fake, since they conveniently revise them after using them for political purposes ), but that's not anywhere near enough to even account for the millions arriving in a year

[@ahuzel]

"It benefits the rich" It always goes back to the classes conflict. Corporations Vs State Vs Citizens, the first two are the upper clases and we the average citizens are the lower clases, corporations have been winning for almost a century. In all countries is the same scenario; rich getting richer.

[@DW64TF2]

The Last of the Meheecans South Park: Season 15, Episode 9 for anyone wondering

[@spadinnerxylaphone2622]

"Cartman starts a conspiracy theory involving Jews, and Mr. Garrison decides to run for President after being forced to take a Canadian language class." So, an average Tuesday in South Park?

[@jesusbrauliorosalesnunez1156]

i like your take on videos, im from mexico and i got interest in this because remind me of the time at the start of the year when in california i think they implemented that law of inmigrants who where undocumented in any farm or fabric, the corporation that contracted them would have to pay a fine for every one of them, but when starting the law, almost all of the farms and jobs that the mayority of the people that said "they took our jobs" went vacant, literally a lot of products in california that involved mostly fruits and vegetal product went to the trash because a lot of the bosses in farms said "no one came to work to take the job, i dont remember if it was 1 or 2 weeks, before they change it because its very obvious, people in United States, as everyone else in the world, dont like to do the jobs that benefit the most population in exchange for being also, the most hard one for physical, i dont know how many money they earn, but if none of the stereotype white people presented to actually get a job there...

[@P71ScrewHead]

10:29 The Mexicans are modding our cars..lol AKA, Lowriders..

[@donatopirrod]

I am going to leave this here. There is no logical reason on why immigration is inherently bad.

[@mgam4963]

especially with the fact that mexico as it is, is not a good place to live in, in a lot of states💀 my family immigrated here to the US over 20 years ago and even if they wanted to, they couldn’t go back to where they lived because it has become overrun by cartels and these cartels killed my uncle in 2003. A lot of people will defend mexico, saying it’s not as bad as people make it out to be, but it is, cartels kill politicians that threaten to bring forth change and there is way too many people with stories similar to my family’s. It is a inhumane idea to send immigrants to mexico when a lot of the country doesnt even appear to be safe

[@mgam4963]

I’m part of the first generation to have been born here in the US and while I couldnt vote in this election (since I turn 18 in May) if I could have voted, I would have never sacrificed mexican immigrants for another dollar in my pocket, that is for sure.

[@kyros905]

Immigration might be not a net negative for corporations and the upperclasses, as they get workers for less money, but this doesn't mean everyone is okay, you guys have this homelessness epidemic for a reason.

[@10thletter40]

Also you can compare to high immigration countries in Eastern Europe, Western Europe, etc. Things are complicated

[@dcorgard]

What ever happened to our hate for the Italians, Germams, or the Catholic Irish? I think it'd be funny to see them try to bring that back, because we'd see a large push back for such ideas. Humans are all the same race now. We don't live along side with Denisovans, Neanderthals, or Homo erectus. At least not anymore. I'm curious if true racism existed back then to the point of genocide for some of them by us (we are very aggressive, but yet again we don'tknow how the other humans acted...) - but yet again we did interbreed with them, too, and environmental pressures very likely had a huge impact of their demise, too.

[@jacplac97]

Well things weren't exactly going well in the UK, ever since they kicked out all the Slavs, Balts, and Romanians.

[@Activesilver97]

16:50 Poland does this with their boarders, they might have the idea down padded.

[@jasonleatherwood2172]

Increasing supply of workers and decreasing supply of jobs due to offshoring is a formula for lower wages

[@davidkafka2452]

Only if the economy doesn’t grow. And simply by living you put pressure on the economy to grow because you need goods and services to stay alive

[@dkxtro2562]

​@@davidkafka2452 Yeah but there is a problem here with goods. We have the exact opposite of communism. Our Shelves are pretty much overloaded, but no one can afford it. The prices just don't go down.. despite the abundance of available processed foods. In fact, the food industry has been steadily growing and is a large part of the US Economy. You would think prices will go down, supply up, demand the same. Yet, they increase... Makes sense for fresh foods, but overall foodprices should be way down. If you can tell me why that is, would be very insightful, but as I see it, this doesn't add up and there is a fish to be catched

[@Mrpro-sd1uu]

as a Mexican, I can confirm that we eat the dogs and the cats in tacos

[@uriel4274]

No we don't

[@BiggestMessiFan12334]

We dont. And trump never said that V Mexicans eat dogs or cats stupid

[@DanielLuna-m6j]

No we don't

[@ahuzel]

@@uriel4274 You just dont know. Always look for dogs at the tacos, if there is none, it is pretty much made with dog meat.

[@snavsmatiq]

Japan's economic fall can almost entirely be contributed to the ever declining birth rate.

[@zachstarattack7320]

that is not true at all

[@randomuser5443]

@@zachstarattack7320not really. The core problem is a lack of young population, immigration can help but the main problem is they ate their workers alive

[@WowOafus]

Those in Martha’s Vineyard worked to get the immigrants housing, legal services, food, child care, etc. I think that contradicts your insinuation of that situation. People where I live wouldn’t have put that effort forth to help.

[@michellereno6414]

Exactly

[@Kosboymed]

And that’s not even mentioning how Ron Desantis took credit for using Floridian taxpayer money to illegally traffic Venezuelan migrants from San Antonio Texas to Martha’s Vineyard.

[@ethanelliot4559]

The people where you live would probably be capable of handling two Greyhound busses of illegal immigrants. Martha's Vineyard, a location with one of the highest average income per resident, was in a total panic upon their arrival -.- It was upon their EXIT that they worked to get them housing, legal services, food, child care, etc. Considering that the state of Texas has been tasked with handling over 1 million illegal immigrants and providing them with all those services, even building them their own city, the richest people in the US shilling out a few pence for a handful is not going to impress me.

[@mrguiltyfool]

@@ethanelliot4559 Plus is diversity is really the strength why not house them near their residence.

[@greenyodadude]

​@@ethanelliot4559what panic?

[@Hannah_montannah]

Another important point from the economic side is that illegal immigrants have no legal minimum wage which is why their labor is cheaper; making them legal citizens would actually solve that issue.

[@dkxtro2562]

Imagine breaking the law but only if you aren't a citizen like what?

[@alexmoore5970]

It would be a better comparison to compare solely the state of California to Japan. Roughly the same population, usable land area, climate and so on.

[@AsobiMedio]

In that case California would just prove the point further, their immigration numbers are much higher on average than the U.S. as a whole(obviously since it's a border state) with over a quarter of it's population being foreign-born. It simultaneously has the highest GDP and 5th highest GDP per capita of any state. Along with a robust economy on just about every level, stable job growth, and a decent 5% unemployment rate which is just about ideal. On just about every metric, they're doing great. The main issues the state is facing are the consequences of this success, high cost of living due to the high population and zoning shenanigans, which feeds into the homelessness problem. And even that isn't entirely it since 10% of the homeless people in California are from outside the state, they just migrate there because the services are considerably better and the weather is warmer. These are problems for sure, but its the type of problems that all successful nations/governments face eventually. And it's perfectly solvable, it just requires an educated and active electorate and the subsequent political will to implement those solutions. Sadly, those two things are historically difficult to muster up.

[@haroondaman7162]

​@@AsobiMediowhat about the cost of living in both areas?

[@Donnyvoon]

@@AsobiMedio numbers seem good but the majority of people are living pay check to paycheck in California

[@AsobiMedio]

@@haroondaman7162 ​ I sent a five paragraph comment, detailed answer and KZbin deleted it. Of course. Edit: Actually, I think I know why, I called Google out for it's monopolistic bs lol.

[@AsobiMedio]

@@haroondaman7162 To summarize because KZbin keeps deleting my comments, both Japan and California are very similar in their cost of living to median income ratio. Japan is slightly better off(by about 5%) but has a much higher tax rate for that given income and has had a negative trend in that ratio for the last few years as well as a stagnant economy for decades. Meanwhile, California has a positive trend.

[@DAC936]

Conflating ideals on immigration and illegal immigration is a brain dead take. Like 90% of people who talk about the subject this does nothing to address the difference.

[@Tysonbax]

Immigration takes your jobs. Laws allowing off-shoring of jobs take your jobs. Every which way there's someone taking your job to get wages stagnant.

[@Tomekurens]

20:30 Oh i know how to fix this problem! Bring back the soviet union! Yeah that that will help everyo-

[@ericgabrielbautistajaimes9187]

Agreed

[@axios4702]

Frankly, how anyone can believe a country without proper public healthcare can be the greatest country in the world is lost on me. Not to mention the amount of gun violence and the political divide.

[@L3H11]

He was talking about Haitians not mexicans

[@JayfrmKtown]

Dude majority of people coming over yours boarder are predominantly Hispanics lol I live in Mexico lol

[@Bear-c4x]

I think this video is about general immigrants.

[@marblox9300]

After watching all of this - my position is "I don't Know".

[@clarkdiggity21]

The problem today isn't immigration. it's "illegal" immigration. South Parks commentary can be insightful, but i hope no one would ever form an opinion based on its deceptively shallow takes on political events, foreign or domestic

[@cup.o.joe...]

Yes but illegal immigration comes from people being unable to immigrate legally, the US has plundered resources from countries all around the world, what did you think was going to happen? Those chickens were bound to come home to roost at some point, there's anecdotal evidence (with mexico) that suggests that closing borders only fosters illegal immigration, since before the borders closed people used to be able to go into the us to work and come home to mexico meaning the us didn't have to spend money on their health, welfare or housing to name a few. Yes the issue is complex, but it seems to me like the help the us is providing those countries is a huge misfire, talking about the war on drugs, those efforts could be better spent on international cooperation that help the technification of agriculture for example, of the textile industry just to name a couple, but hey, just pretending to fight narcos is more profitable I guess

[@TheSkypetube]

Illegal immigration comes in many shapes and convertables

[@SleepyjoeOG]

White folks always talking about illegal immigration as if their ancestors didn’t do the same,

[@greenyodadude]

it is quite telling that you put "illegal" in quotes, because American presidential candidates are happy to lie about legal Haitian immigrants being "illegal" in their eyes because they demonize all immigrants

[@davidkafka2452]

This is a poor take. There are laws on the books that you are likely already breaking every day so you really can’t take the high ground here. Laws change all the time as does the number of immigrants and the qualifications for being legally accepted into the US. Right now we could choose to give everyone here illegally amnesty and make them legal but you would likely be against that because you really don’t care about legality, it’s just easy to use as a plausible excuse to say some people shouldn’t be here. There is no greater moral weight to walking over a line in the sand unlike taking a life or other property from someone. It’s a bit like driving a few miles over the speed limit. Technically illegal but many times actually practical and no harm is done.

[@yenfr5306]

Look at it at a personal level. They take what people don't want to do. No one is lining up to do the hard labor. I work in a factory and when I use to work in the line with everyone else , we had one main issue. Absolutely no one wanted to go to the lines that were literally running fast. We would even have bags of product just falling to the ground. There was never enough people. I would even see people fighting to stay at certain spots. Why? Because all you had to do is stand and stay in that one spot. You even get a chair to sit down and if it gets to cold you can turn on the heat to warm you up. At the end of the line those bags would be droping so fast it was insane. The few people they had would get tired real quick and couldn't do it. The jobs are there it's just not the jobs that many want to do. Everyone fights for the easy ones. Come on im sure some of yall can see a form of this at your workplace. They can't keep people in those areas, but the other cushiony jobs oh people have been in that spot for years. You would have to be crazy to give up such a spot.

[@ianpierson4568]

the blur around the pile is almost funnier than the pile itself. Well.... back to the pile!

[@CountryballstudiosYT]

South Park is literally becoming The Simpsons with these predictions

[@Justin-wd2vy]

No it was commentary on an already present issue. It's not a prediction if it is currently happening.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks For this! Love your content! Fan from LATAM 🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴

[@DannyK1992]

It’s funny because Canada has a Prime Minister, not a president

[@silenteffect755]

Canada is a great example of why "immigrants are taking our jobs" can be a real issue. We took in millions of temporary foreign workers within only a few years, far faster than new jobs could be created. This caused a massive shift in minimum wage positions. The fast food and grocery industries used to be dominated by part time jobs which were filled by highschoolers looking to gain work experience and save for university. These days nearly every part time position has been eliminated in favor of hiring temporary foreign workers full time, completely pushing highschoolers out of the job market. Its just easier for companies to deal with low skill full time employees than part time highschoolers. Its a real issue if immigration is improperly handled.

[@willlastnameguy8329]

I dont know how many times this needs to be said, but nobody is mad about legal immigrants. Practically zero people care if somebody comes here legally. Stop using that as an argument against people who oppose ILLEGAL immigration, and a secure border. Again. Legal immigration is not a problem. And if you support illegal immigration, you are dismissing any and all concerns, legitimate or otherwise, in favor of "just being a good person" (Because the rest of us are just awful, right) when you actually have no idea if the concerns are valid because you only listen to news that promotes your personal politics.

[@skyeel873]

Haitians were legal immigrants. The right still makes up stuff about them and hates them.

[@kriegsmanjaeger5545]

Yeah, it's funny how "borders shouldn't exist but at the same time Ukraine needs to be able to defend their borders.

[@Troglor048]

It goes back to the idea that the people who often emphasize legal immigration are often using it as a cover towards keeping the highly restrictive laws in place that limits the legal inflow. Then one has to get into the grit of why they want to keep it that way, which eventually just turns into a shit-show of an exchange that reveals ignorance on both ends. Most are not willing to have an honest conversation about this and will just end up voting for the dirtbag that soothes their pre-existing beliefs

[@hmlandis1370]

@@kriegsmanjaeger5545 Absolute hypocrisy indeed lol.

[@masqueraid988]

On the outher hand, what are people who are in oppressive countries supposed to do if said countries' gov. make sure that they can't legally imagerate.

[@rosamayonnaise]

Love your videos man, keep up the great work!

[@wagz781]

It is worth noting with your closing stinger: Most of the people that are against foreign aid are against putting other countries before their own. America has a lot of problems that need solving, and the money that goes to foreign nations tends to eclipse what we spend helping ourselves by quite a bit. Additionally, the whole "They took our jobs" becomes more realistic of a complaint when you think about it this way: America currently functions based of an infinite growth expectation. We assume that each generation will always be larger than the last. The issue with that is there are natural plateaus that will occur in population growth when we reach a point where quality of life dips below a certain minimum people are willing to have children in. It's supposed to be a self correcting system where job and pay quality will increase to levels where people are comfortable enough to have children again. Leading to a return to growth. However, excess immigration disrupts that system by flooding the market with low-skill workers to ensure job and pay quality does not have to increase in the most affected areas by infinite growth planning. Since most of the time, immigrants will still have an increase in quality of life just through the sheer nature of coming to America. It's a simple supply and demand calculation. Also, people really need to stop comparing the US as a whole to other countries. If we want more accurate comparisons, we should compare the USA's states to other countries. As they tend to have the size and population of other countries in the rest of the world. We're more comparable to the entirety of the EU than a specific country there-in.

[@CrimsonCrusader69]

I can give a better example than the US vs Japan one in the video. UK pre and post EU exit. Prior to the UK leaving the EU Polish and Romanian "immigrants" would use the free movement of people that was part of EU membership to travel to the UK and undertake skilled jobs like tradesmen and haulage driving, typically these would pay very good wages due to the required skills and certification, the Poles and Romanians however would offer to work these jobs for minimum wage, the reasoning being that when converted back to their native currency even UK minimum wage provided a good standard of living, they would work these jobs for 18 months while living in slum housing to save as much of it as possible, then return to their home country, there was a revolving door of these economic migrants so employers never needed to worry about finding a replacement when the one they had finally moved back home. When the break from the EU happened and the free movement stopped, construction and haulage companies had to drastically increase their wages to lure back the native brits that had been forced into other jobs to survive. It's the same in the US, Juan works for under minimum wage, he doesn't care because 1) he pays no income tax on it and b) he can take that and convert it into Peso's and live comfortably back in Mexico, so not only has he stagnated the wages in the hose country, but he has also not contributed to it's tax system and has even removed money from it's economy.

[@ChristianDall-p2j]

0:11 Why? Why is tik took like this!

[@asmongold2028]

Because the Chinese algorithm is intentionally toxic. Mind you this is the same site that brought about tweens eating tide and stealing kias

[@Drf15h]

This guy is my new favorite guy to watch on my lunch break, i have watched all your videos and youre amazing! Keep it up bro!

[@Gamefilled]

THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS I SWEAR (helo artman) first btw

[@theconqueringram5295]

They way I see it, immigration has pros and cons that affect different sections of society. It also depends on immigration policies. Of course, no matter how well or how flawed a system is organized, someone profits and someone ends up screwed.

[@zomgoose]

Poland is thriving while being very selective about immigration. Meanwhile, the UK economy is declining with mass immigration.

[@THNKKY]

9:17 the argument that white collar workers aren’t effected is very short sighted. They will be effected by competition from the displaced blue collar workers gaining skills and becoming their competition. Anyone else heard about the lack of entry level jobs right now?

[@theish_me_kev3986]

correct

[@sneakymitchell7802]

Citizens first Immigrates last

[@rvdeddrift]

I love that Butters' Mexican name is..... Butter, but in Spanish! Lol! All hail Mantequilla! 🧈🎆

[@stopsign515]

i dont wanna be weird, but they only hire immigrants in Canada, Canadians cant find jobs

[@octapusxft]

From a cultural standpoint, not all immigrants are the same though. It is different if it is someone from the next country over who might have similar faith, culture etc and it is different from they are coming from several countries away in huge numbers and having several diametrically opposed views on important stuff. I agree with the idea that the best thing is to try to help making the rest of the world a more prosperous place. Too bad that it is not that simple to do.

[@TreeStumper]

I’m a simple man. I see new Ceric Artman video, I click and watch

[@mikeblom8897]

Love your channel dude. Keep up the good work

[@frankwest5388]

In my economics classes we learned that immigration mainly hurts the lowest earners in a soceity in a short time frame. Over the long term, no major economic group gets hurt. Which makes sense, because most economic models calculate success and failure based on the amounts of goods and services, that could be represented by traditional currenies. One thing that makes most immigrants especially useful from an economic perspective, is the fact that the main demografics that do immigrate, tend to be young, male adults between 18-40 years old. In other words the most 'productice' members of soceity, since they tend to just enter the work force and not require many of the public services that would usually cost the tax payer money, like medical bills. And since they tend to take whatever work they can get their hands on, they also dont spend much time without contributing. And by the time when those demographics do need help by the public, they will have contributed already so much that it compensates for anything else they might need. Which means they bring all the benefits of population growth, without the downsides of having to wait 20 years until babies can finally do something useful Usually the negative things that get attributed to mass immigration, like the local population losing work of inflated living costs, are unrelated to them and most suprisingly, they tend to commit the least amount of crime. Which is mainly an oppertunity thing. They just dont have the time for most crimes to be worthwhile for them, especially since they tend to get more heavily scrutinzed already. Edit: You are litteraly adressing all the same things that I wrote. Well researched. Now I feel redundant

[@Kikrafis]

Are you comparing legal and illegal immigration in your research or did you attribute both as if they were the same

[@Linkophere]

Whos the authors of the book you read

[@frankwest5388]

@@Kikrafis most economic papers do not make a distinction between the two categories of immigrants and their impact on the economics of a region, because why would they, the question is about immigration in general not legal or illigal? Its like asking if a red or a blue shoe would stop you from stepping on rocks. The color doesnt matter. Now on a purely technical level, illigal immegrants do commit TWO types of crimes more. The first one being overstaying their visa, which is how the overwhelming amount of illigal immegration happens. And the second one is that they tend to work without offical documentation. Since they due to their legal distinction cant do that. However neither matter much from an economic perspective The mere fact that you are bringing up what is a purley legal distinction to a general economic question shows that you either pay no attention to what people are talking about, dont understand it in the first place, or are making a bad faith argument.

[@frankwest5388]

@@Linkophere I learned those things in my economics classes. Almost any reputable macro economist shares this opinon

[@Paul-nn9oj]

Ive had African immigrants accuse me (a returning UK native with new Aussie accent) of taking their job in my country of birth

[@T6_]

The real question is what will happen when AI does 99% of jobs in a few decades. How will we earn money if we can’t earn it by working?

[@SecretMagician]

The elites are too busy huffing their own farts to realise that. Eventually, they'll end up in a circlejerk of certain elites being "not as rich " and neing excluded, to the point where there will be a new middle class composed of said richer elites because they're the new norm.

[@dkxtro2562]

The solution is obviously communism I'm kidding The actual solution is A. its not happening B. mass poverty

[@supermanironmam161]

This is similar to the issue of illegal cannabis vs legal cannabis. Illegal is cheaper because of all the taxes. Companies can’t afford it so they try and cut corners to keep in business. They do this to survive but the ability to do this is all they way to the big companies to keep so competitive that the smaller companies struggle if they don’t.

[@Necroes]

Your logic is flawed; Yes, the US economy-which has a large number of immigrants-is stronger than the Japanese economy-which has almost none. However, that alone does not prove immigrants aren't a net negative. The US economy is absolutely massive, and dwarfs the Japanese market by comparison. The fact is, at its size, the immigration issue could be a massive net negative, and we could still be doing better than many other countries just because the US economy is so good at generating wealth. It's far more likely that it's a mixed issue; Some immigrants are likely good for the economy, as they bring in skilled labor we are short on here in the states that offer more options and drive down prices for consumers by expanding the market. By contrast, illegal immigrants coming into the country and living off of social benefits can only be a net negative, as they generate no wealth and take up tax payer dollars without adding anything in return.

[@ghhdgjjfjjggj]

after 20 years, I finally understand this episode...

[@Thelisreal-sh3tz]

I feel as though crime is being heavily ignored in this video and in south park. Crime is quite a factor as to why a LOT of southern states are quite against immigration. The amount of crimes that are committed by immigrants who never face justice because they skip town and just disappear. 19:02 you just said that foreign interference had a mixed history, what the hell are you talking about. We need to give other countries money and help them rebuild? That's foreign interference which Latin and Southern American countries all REALLY hated during the cold war and made it abundantly clear that it was unwelcome.

[@ericgabrielbautistajaimes9187]

If you want less criminals, stop giving your weapons to the cartels

[@ericgabrielbautistajaimes9187]

And you are right, foreign aid from USA means intervention from USA, which is not good if you pay attention to your history classes

[@Nobles34n]

I love your videos! I have binged all of them now keep up the good work!

[@Raffferr]

13:20 what is the background music?

[@owensspace]

Wow, these are beautiful episodes

[@ThapeloMKT]

@4:00 I was 1000% certain that a ground news ad was getting queued up.

[@streetguru9350]

This was the only episode of South Park my father loved.

[@kapitanryba]

5:26 what abut france...

[@systemkill90]

lol what about it 😂 nothing of worthy note from France

[@kapitanryba]

@@systemkill90 that imigration is not a net negative. Maybe if you look at salaries then yes, although there is no clear correlation between imigration and high salaries. Net negative of imigration occurs in garbage on the streets, decline of local culture rtc.

[@Duckcalculator]

I hate France because they let themselves lose their Frenchness

[@edwardcrow6385]

As I deep dive into the history of East and west Asia during the Cold War I’ve come to learn just how polorizing foreign aid can be. Taiwan is a great example of being built up by the Japanese during ww2 to produce more complex machinery so it could be more easily shipped around. Which after the defeat of Japan lead to Taiwanese heavily investing in education and technology leftover from the Japanese intervention. This would result in them rapidly building an economy that honestly suprseeds conventional capitalism. They’ve created a system with minimal unemployment which granted the issue of new buissness being unable to form but because they were actually financially profitable unlike the propped up versions of the USSR (which Taiwan refused to work with since communist china threatened to conquer them) this resulted in a biome of economics and inovation with specialized businesses

[@LaserAgentRyan]

One thing you forget about this though is that it’s not just immigrants it’s that they are illegal immigrants

[@ZonamaPrime]

Goobacks was my first intro to South Park, thank you older cousins!

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

8:03 they arent complaining about losing the job itself; theyre complaining about losing the job to someone not obligated to pay taxes, unable to vote legally, and is in america undocumented. THATS the problem. Nobody cares if an immigrant gets a job; they only care when someone who isnt aj immigrant but just some giy who just showed up, takes the money, doesnt have anything to do with this country; and thus money is lost from the economy due to taxes that arent collected from someone whos constantly taking money from american jobs that could have been given to someone whos actually a citizen and struggling and homeless.

[@SpottedHares]

Taxes are payed by the employer on behalf of the employer. What you saying is companies that hire illegal workers are also committing tax fraud .

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

@@SpottedHares taxes are paid by the citizen every year at tax season..how old are you man? Are you not paying taxes either or under 18 and never had to yet? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@asolvorrom6648]

@whenimmanicimgodly4228 lemme ask you, do you file for tax returns every season? Do you pay into your tax returns or expect money to come back to you?

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

@@asolvorrom6648 i pay taxes every year, and i get money back every year. then i use the money i get back to get myself a bday present since i get the tax return back right around my bday so like works out good lol. prolly gunna change once my business is up and running off the ground tho i know a lot of busisness owners pay in not take out

[@AngryShoeLace_]

yeah that american vs japan argument was real dumb ngl

[@acupofcoffee.please]

this one i agree with

[@BLKW4RDR3M0N]

The problem isn't immigration it's illegal immigration. The problem is our infrastructure cannot support this many people that aren't able to put anything directly back into the system and need extra support. Everyone needs to be vetted the same way to enter the country.

[@dkxtro2562]

Controlled Immigration = good Millions of illegal immigrants = not good In the US, they only hand out a limited amount of Work Visas for a reason.

[@goldengriffon]

Excellent, nuanced discussion on a complex topic. Subscribed!

[@jamarilittlejohn6345]

Bro what’s jobs do immigrants create 😭 they are not coming here starting businesses lol

[@skyeel873]

one of my first jobs was working for an immigrant in his business.

[@dkxtro2562]

@@skyeel873 and it probably took years for them to actually start that business. Relevance?

[@Bear-c4x]

@@skyeel873Was his business human trafficking?

[@nacho_noize8599]

Funny thing, I lived in the USA as an immigrant for many years. Amdi had family members that are US born citizens that worked immigrant jobs that were under the table and which they did not pay taxes too 😅

[@Bear-c4x]

You were in Canada. And those family members were in Canada. Not the US.

[@nacho_noize8599]

@Bear-c4x nah i was in North Korea actually

[@Bear-c4x]

@ Nope! Canada!!!!