The Stage That Changed The Tour De France Forever

[@TrueSportsLore]

Rumour has it you'll smash it in work tomorrow if you scroll back up and like the video 👌

[@BrendenConway]

Didnt work

[@juanapuchaltpelegri1077]

Hat guy was a shame. He was a drug addict. The woerst year in the tour.

[@basquat76]

This was more of a Landis bio video. Maybe put that in the title of the video

[@reynard2ki]

I was on my honeymoon when this tour was going on and I remember it well. Now I'm divorced. Turns out that Landis wasn't the only cheater.

[@sebastianlauri9622]

Broooo😢

[@Wo9i7sj5l2a]

Get Well 👊🏻

[@reynard2ki]

@@Wo9i7sj5l2a Thank you, I'm trying!

[@ironmantooltime]

Ur wife was durty bro

[@ohnezuckerohnefett]

What did you do?

[@Datamining101]

Watching this live was one of the most amazing and exciting 5 hours of television I remember.

[@Z0RDR4CK]

yeah, but after truth hits we felt robbed around 10 years of beeing a cycling fan. since the first rumours from outside the cycling community appeared that there is doping, we all declined it, the media declined it, the officials declined it.... but we all knew better only proof was yet to be made. and it hit hard - riders from today still feel that everday they performed great, while others reached their limit to soon.

[@tomlingier6238]

Fueled by anger? It appears the fuel was something else

[@brabhamF1]

Steroids can cause intense periods of rage.

[@MikeP_]

It's a long time ago now, but I remember that something felt wrong watching Landis during stage 17. In my recollection, he was permanently pouring water over his head and I felt reminded of an overtuned machine that had to be cooled down to not overheat. For this reason, I was not at the slightest bit surprised when he tested positive. It was an impressive performance nonetheless.

[@niklasbirksted8175]

The extraordinary day is actually explained. By mistake, one of the blood bags contained blood with too high testosterone, so when he did his daily epo-session, by accident, he got a little extra in the mix. I don't remember the exact details, but it was only due to a small mistake on their side. And the bike swap had nothing to do with it.

[@florianh7065]

Yes, but just for the record - EPO is a drug that stimulates red blood cell production and a blood bag is a way of loading your boody with red blood cells that where taken out months before and in the meanwhile replaced by the body. So, same goal but different means. A blood bag is undetectable in tests since its your own blood (you can only flag unnaturally high hematocrit values), while EPO is detectable. What is detectable with blood bags is if you used other drugs in training and withdrew blood too close to usage (testosterone for Landis, clenbuterol for Contador).

[@lightfeather9953]

​​@@florianh7065is this a known phenomenon? Because the math doesn't make sense if you're talking about affecting hormone levels. If you're talking about a positive test on a foreign substance (clenbuterol, not high T) then your explanation makes sense

[@shanemcpherson1015]

I wondered what the bike swap had to do with it.😊

[@TheJMT2012]

Its always fun to listen to commentators during things like this. Trying to explain how the rider manage to do it. With their training, nutrition on the day etc etc. When we all know the real answer.

[@thefrener794]

Everyone knew what was going on. Everyone. No one could do what those riders were doing riding those long stages at those speeds without help. Either the best nutrition, best training, best equipment or best drugs.

[@indonesiaamerica7050]

@@thefrener794 Try more often to figure out when and should replace or in your rhetoric.

[@thefrener794]

@@indonesiaamerica7050 You actually wrote this while you were having a seizure right? This is the internet sir. Laughing out loud.

[@egornikitin9787]

Another epic day springs to mind. Chris Froome on Giro mountain stage.

[@tillyvanilly7015]

As George Bennet put it: He pulled a Landis!?

[@egornikitin9787]

Pulled a Landis on them guys in peloton for sure😅

[@TheSlowoldman]

Sky and (not so) marginal gains.......

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

@@tillyvanilly7015 No, no, no. It was the fueling strategy! ---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5TGfK2KmcuLqtU

[@SM.11183]

The difference is Chris Froome will hardly ever be DQed. He's the winner.

[@gusvanskike4889]

Spectacular video and an incredibly underrated channel! Keep up the great work, I’d love to see more videos like this one

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you that means a lot!

[@AlbertBuckinghamEllison]

Such an inspiring ride! Back in my racing days I had a moment like this that I'll never forget. Stage race: Stage 4/4 I had lost the Yellow after a puncture on the 2nd stage and was given a 4 minute penalty to restart a lap later (No Neutral Service). On the final stage I broke away solo for 20 miles and made up 7 minutes, eliminating the penalty and going straight back up to 3rd on GC and Green jersey. Torrential rain, exposed course in England. I rode with such anger at myself for the bad luck. It's amazing what riding with reckless abandon can do.

[@Sdakouls3]

Inspiring doping.

[@xanzpatrie]

Reckless abandon and a shit ton of drugs in his case

[@cyclingfreak56]

Nice to hear another dopers opinion, thanks Chris!

[@tranzco1173]

Neither of those dudes can read. I'm not kidding.

[@JasondenHollander-qj5hp]

I walked into work the next day( the tdf is middle of night in Australia) I said to workmates that that was either the best ride we will ever see or it was the other thing; sure enough it was the other thing.

[@lexusenthusiast6414]

I said the exact same thing to my dad

[@jasonl122]

18:11. Lance was a piece of work!

[@TheGotoGeek]

Still is.

[@tine819]

I watched stage 17 in 2006 and never have I seen a rider receive as many 'sticky bottles' as Floyd did on that stage. The sports director in the Phonak car was a former ASO employee French. And that is probably why Phonak avoided prosecution. Fortunately, such a thing cannot take place today! Good fair description! Good video!

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you! The sticky bottles was insane... we left it out but it was in the initial script. The amount of times he gets a bottle, pours it all over him and takes another...

[@Charizardlison]

what are sticky bottles?

[@sicksquid3258]

@@Charizardlison I'ts a water bottle handed to rider that stays in the hands of both rider and soigneur therefore allowing the rider to be propelled at the same speed as the car.

[@bigtex144]

Ahh thanks for the explanation. I've known (and even experienced once at a training camp) the concept of "sticky bottles", but never heard them called that. So do we think he was utilizing that tactic so often just to get as much extra boost as possible from the car (and dumping the water was the quickest way to "need" another bottle)? Or as another commenter mentioned, he was an "overheated machine" and actually needed that much cooling? Or both perhaps?

[@Greg41982]

I watched this stage and was glued to the TV. I hadn't been as stuck where I was since 9/11.

[@teddykayy]

Beautifully put together. Floyd's win is still my favorite.

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you!

[@andredeketeleastutecomplex]

He didn't win.

[@TheSlowoldman]

@@andredeketeleastutecomplex Yes he did, he won over a bunch of other dopers.

[@Driller_TM]

That’s like saying gg to a hacked Geometry Dash verification

[@DavieNicol]

It wasn't astana that Landis wanted to join but team radioshack. The team was made by Lance after Contador won the tour they both rode. Great vide.

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you and thank you for the correction :)

[@Mububban23]

I know they were all doped up to the gills, but geez it was exciting to watch that period. Rather than people just slavishly watching power meters and the breakaway nearly always being reeled in like nowadays, people attacked, people cracked, it felt a bit more "human" even though they were all doping. Sad that such an exciting era is so tainted.

[@fistoftulkas7335]

And what does that tell you? That today's robots are even more doped, and with better pharmacology. Modern riders are all super lean and juiced to the gills, we still get exciting races but indeed like you said back then they were more "human", more fallible. The 90s through the Armstrong years was probably my favorite era too.

[@anthonypeterson5957]

I know the doping gives an edge, but this is one of my fondest sports memories from childhood. I grew up hooked on the tour growing up in central Texas during Lances run, and this being the first year after his last year it felt like the Americans wouldn’t compete anymore. I lamented the idea of losing passion for watching the race without having the joy of rooting for your countryman. I was in HS xc at the time and every day after summer practice I would come home to an empty house and spend my early mornings enjoying my runners high while watching the tour. I remember feeling the excitement slip as Landis fell further back on the leader as the stages went on, but kept watching out of habit. The climb he made on this day to close that time was as exciting as all of Lances tours combined for me. I haven’t watched the tour since the doping allegations, and it seems the Americans no longer have any real competitors. But nostalgia really makes me miss these doping days lol

[@dorseykindler9544]

Remember this stage like it was yesterday. Was in my mid twenties, living in a little cottage in Napa Valley, aspiring to report on pro cycling for a living. Where does the time go!?

[@janinecarlos1718]

I remember that day. What turned out to good to be true was indeed too good to be true.

[@BlTCHEZAlNTSHlT]

deserves way more views!

[@BryenGraver]

Even as a 16 year old kid, I remember watching that stage and thinking how this was going to go down. I wasn't sure how to feel about it at the time but today I think it's hilarious and freaking epic. Not surprised in the least that the dude ended up being juiced to the gills lol.

[@MattiasThyr]

I remembered I was following a blog where Floyd trainer or leader described the morning where Floyd woke up and was turning the bed upside down in mood provided by Testosteron plaster he had worn under the night. The post was removed later. I wonder if someone else read it also? I can not make this shit up because I held nothing against him. I liked his story and all he went through. He was a good bike racer.

[@benedictearlson9044]

He was very angry at the stage 17 finish line too. The only other rider I've seen angry after crossing the line was Cadel Evans one time, he was like the Hulk!

[@MattiasThyr]

@@benedictearlson9044 remembered that Cadel Said he wanted to stamp the journalists dog. 🐕😀moodswinging

[@GizelleQuant]

Bet you wish you had a screenshot or an archive of that post. What a wild thing to read!

[@harrismazari5484]

This stage was an amazing acheivment by his doctors

[@Bastian_Zugnappen33]

It's funny because the day he had the crisis he declared that he suffered from the heat, the next day he accomplished the feat, drinking 100 bottles of water, but with his Jersey closed for the entire stage 😅

[@GSXK4]

Now, Floyd's of Leadville On The Go cannabis gummies are available at every gas station in America.

[@AlessioPunzi]

He seems like a nice chap, and I truly wish him best for his life.

[@evilflowx]

When your body says don’t do it, but your mind says “YOLO!”

[@ZENmud]

I was near the Arrivée in Morzine that day

[@wahwahweewa]

You didn't live through this time or you wouldn't suggest the fans all believed the sport was clean. EVERYONE who knew the sport at the time knew it was dirty.

[@adamcurpier]

Great video, ty!

[@TrueSportsLore]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lucasbrown2]

I really appreciated this.

[@ZENmud]

Being at that finish line in Morzine, France, on one of the hottest days that summer, was unforgettable.

[@stoutlager6325]

I was watching live when Floyd won that stage. It was inspired. Then it all turned to hell shortly after. Really soured me on the sport for years.

[@MoonlightGrahamCracker]

Lol, I remember that day. At the top a bunch of reporters were blocking Floyd as he tried to get somewhere and he started yelling and me and my brother started laughing, it was like a dislpay of royd rage from an after school special. I also remember watching Armstrong and Contador leave everyone behind on one climb with such finality I wondered what are those two on that everyone else can’t get?

[@sevenrats]

I remember watching that stage and saying it was impossible and he had to have done something. There's no way you suck that bad one day and then comeback like that on no rest. No way.

[@rocknral]

I went to bed in the early hours of the morning here in Australia after watching this stage. My wife half asleep asked me how it turned out. I distinctly remember saying, "I just watched a drug cheat win the tour de France" (It was clear with the time trial the only remaining crucial stage that he would get the yellow) It was that obvious. How he cracked COMPLETELY on stage 16 but came back the next day was ridiculous. Unbelievable. ...and it was.

[@shanemcpherson1015]

I remember thinking the EXACT same thing.

[@DB-hb1go]

This was the first ever tour I watched!

[@martymiller4300]

I recently dumped a bundle on hearing aids (cancer) and saw Phonak on a sticker at the audiologist’s office. I asked her about the brand and told her the story about the Menanite that went on to whoop Lance at the tour, she listened wide-eyed, never heard a word about it. Ended up buying a different brand but at least Phonak bought a mention all these years later. I think a lot more of Floyd than I do of Lance, although I use the USPS brand all the time.

[@BurgerTime7441]

"went on to whoop Lance at the tour" ? you've got the races mixed up in your memory. This video explains the timeline

[@martymiller4300]

@@BurgerTime7441 yeah I knew I’d get that wrong. Sorry to mess with history, thanks for the catch.

[@tedecker3792]

When Floyd started racing MTB in Pennsylvania he would ride to the races. He killed it at the 24hours of Canaan for several years before he became a roadie.

[@gesp5151]

Nicely done review

[@monkeays]

Nothing has changed, Jonas and Pog will be making similar statements in about 10 years

[@MariaScreamapova]

Oscar Pereiro's comeback from 28m40s behind prior to stage 13, is more historical because it is the largest comeback in the modern era (post WWII) of the Tour de France, and probably the TdF's winner with the least impressive career resume, but Oscar Pereiro is a former Tour de France champion. And you will never see the peleton give 30 minutes to any rider ever again. I was bummed for Floyd, I thought he deserved it

[@notreally2406]

*peloton, but no, everyone came back from that, because none of them were gc guys, which is why they let them have 30 min

[@MariaScreamapova]

@@notreally2406 Pereiro had finished 10th in the 2 previous TdF's, and it was stage 13

[@randypalmer2328]

I remember hearing about this amazing ride vividly and knowing exactly what was coming when it happened. Like, it was comically obvious, and sure enough.

[@abedfo88]

this was the only day i missed on this tour! cant believe it.

[@peterad1529]

I remember watching this one and if I recall in the American coverage the commentators were suspicious. 😂

[@valentinvlachakos1301]

I remember this voice/face. Can't remember your old YT Channel name but I was there when you were streaming zwift for 50 people watching😆. Good to see you again making awesome sport videos

[@TrueSportsLore]

Hey! You're right. My name is Jesper. I used to do Zwift content haha

[@petersproul8988]

@TrueSportsLore Thank you for this video! People forget about '06, but it was truly one of the greatest comebacks in Tour history. If you consider that nearly everyone competing in the top 20, from' 99-'08 was eventually popped for 💉, Landis was the best that year, and his Stage 17 ride was truly amazing. Remember Floyd!!

[@Moishe555]

great video, I loved Floyd!

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you!

[@danieljones8658]

@3:16 uh why is my man wearing a Rick Ware Racing NASCAR team shirt???

[@thomaskruck4474]

After stage 17, I lost all confidence in cycling. It was crazy and ridiculous. I did not watch cycling for years, it all did not make any sense to me.

[@Matfridt]

Floyd's numbers ARE crazy tho, because sports science today is leaps and bounds ahead of what it was back then. Development of young riders is also at a completely different level. Anyone pushing watts anywhere near the best today from 15-20 years ago, you can almost guarantee they were doping

[@213tpg]

Doping never stopped and never will, as a whole we humans simply are not honest enough

[@benedictearlson9044]

You mean they start them doping young. Riders don't train any harder in 2024 than they did in 1964.

[@juangomez4967]

Great video, which is the source of Floyd's comments during the stage??

[@TrueSportsLore]

Thank you! Various sources led to this video. You'll find most of them on KZbin if you search Floyd Landis

[@TimS-i4v]

It was the backwards hat that cost him the TDF

[@hfhfhf361]

What about a video for Cameron Mason? Made some mindblowing growth recent years and would be interesting.

[@daveanolik8837]

What’s the mystery of the bike change? Is there speculation that it was a mechanical doping opportunity?

[@tommytoe135]

I remember that day very well. It was the second or third time that I went to France to watch the Tour live. It was the last day stage in the Alps and me and my dad went to the Col de la Colombière to watch the peloton pass. It had already been a rocky road, as the main favourites left the day before the start. But when the 'caravanne' had passed by and the first helicopter arrived. I was so surprised to see Floyd Landis passing by. It was one of those big moments that the cycling sport lives from. Sadly, it came to light that it was foul play in the end. Nevertheless, I still watch cycling today and do enjoy it. But I don't go see the Tour live anymore. The Dauphiné is similar and is more relaxed. :)

[@petekirwin2420]

I do too. The good old days. Marco pantini did a similar thing, loved it. Made watching the tour more exciting..for me ,take away team radios and let the riders race by instinct. These tours are getting seriously boring

[@AA52727]

0:55 My dad is the news reporter in this clip

[@DJKLIBRA]

I remember this day very well. Everybody was like 😮. This guy is a hero. Not the most likeable guy but having been beat the day before this was a comeback the world had never seen.

[@saschawer3031]

Doping!

[@nathanielkhoom6043]

If people don't like these guys winning then let's go back and give it to the first rider that didn't dope......you would probably not find any of the top ten back then who weren't doing something. It's just what was going on back then, and why should we change history because we don't like it? We need to learn from history, not erase it.

[@TimS-i4v]

Wrong dude, LA did fail a test but they covered it up

[@chasman9662]

LA failed lots of tests. But they were inadmissible bc they weren't scheduled per the rules. LA was my hero turned ZERO. He was a liar and ruined the lives of many to perpetuate his lies. Teammates and their wives were threatened if they told THE TRUTH! You saw it in this video...the truth that FL spoke brought out the true LA. Don't defend a liar and a cheat. Still today, people can't watch an amazing break away without thinking of batteries, EPO, LA or FL. He sucks and you should treat him that way.

[@oliverleigh9854]

@@chasman9662 What a clown opinion dude. The mere fact that doping is part of cycling history. Its embedded into the sport. And you say this. Let me make it clear. LA won fair and square. Like anybody before and after him on JUICE!!! What you can't take away from him. He worked hard, had talent. Supreme mentally to over come everything to succeed. That's an example of GOAT athlete you can get. Just like Landis he won fair and square. Let me make it clear. EVERY PRO ATHLETE ARE ON JUICE!!! Any sport code. All of your sport hero are dopers.

[@oliverleigh9854]

@rollinrat4850 listen to this dude. Quoting a cheater like GREG and yet condemn Lance of cheating. Make it make sense. PS. You can take every drug in the world. You will still fail if you don't have talent, work hard, and have the right mental application. That's alone makes you an idiot with this comment.

[@chasman9662]

@@oliverleigh9854 As always, guys like you miss the point. Cheaters RUIN it for past and future racers. Look at any amazing breakaway today..."battery" or "doping" is the first thing they all say. But I guess you'd say "He worked hard installing the battery so he can ride faster than everyone else". There were racers like me in the 90s that didn't do drugs. We worked very hard and won races. But all the sudden we couldn't keep up. Not everybody with talent cheated...we just got left behind. This "clown" knows a little bit about this topic, "dude".

[@oliverleigh9854]

@chasman9662 Oh please, doping is embedded into the sport. It's part of the history/makeup of this sport. Factos! Why do people go crazy with unbelievable performances today? The data shows they are doing exactly the same or even better than what doped up riders were doing in the great EPO days. Try to make it make sense, professor🤣. But drugs aren't gonna make you a superman on and destroy everyone without some talent, hard work, and the right mentally to succeed. That applies to everything in this world, factos! Ask yourself, why did they go so hard after Lance. The automobile industry lobbies it ( corrupt politicians ) since there was a massive drop in car sales in American during the 2000s. That's how TREK became the company they are now. Go look it up. It's public info, professor🤣. You could've been or not a pro cyclist in your days who knows, but you can't say you didn't doped. Even painkillers are doping. This clown, as you refer to, isn't stupid and believes this sport no way. Your body can't take that amount of punishment without help. You would literally kill yourself in the process.

[@jorikv.6497]

Bro was doped to the gills

[@umutbarankeskin1291]

Fantastic video mate. This was the day which made me obsessed in cycling and turned out to be a fraud then. However, I still remember it as one of the greatest days in cycling. Not cherising any rage against Floyd but for sure not in awe to him either.

[@oliverleigh9854]

EVERY PRO ATHLETE ARE ON JUICE!

[@fistoftulkas7335]

Nothing fraudulent about it, that's the reality of ALL professional sports. It was an awesome run and achievement by Landis, he's the rightful winner of that 2006 tour.

[@BurgerTime7441]

Obviously Floyd had a super-sized blood bag the night after stage 16.

[@ksmanning]

Do not trust any adult who wears a ball cap backwards. Ever.

[@livibam]

Why would the UCI give a life time ban to people who dope in a sport that requires you to dope to cope? 2 year ban is actually far to long. The UCI knows exactly what’s going on, has been since the inception of pro bike racing.

[@michaelredford5389]

This was a little bit too early for me to remember, my abiding memory of a solo break away was from Tony Martin. He broke away and with the biggest legs I've ever seen on a cyclist, powered away from the rest of the peleton... they couldn't do anything, he was simply too powerful on his own.

[@judithdavison6698]

What a video!

[@JohnDough-yr2zt]

I saw Landis sitting all alone at the finish of a stage of Tour of California. No one would talk to him at all.

[@dimitridoes7936]

".... for the last 7 years Lance had won the Tour, and he had done so cleanly ..." 😅 / 😢

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

For those who still don't get why doping is used in cycling let me explain : -If there was zero doping the TDF would take 2 more weeks in order for riders to recover naturally - The speeds of Time trials and overall peleton average would collapse to at least 35 km hr ( if not less due to winds and air pressure) -UCI would loose sponsors and tv rights as who wants to see cyclists getting off their bikes and pushing the bike up the mountains - Bikes and equipment would not need be super light or expensive since the higher speeds could not be taken advantage of. UCI has known and has protected their top cyclists for many decades, Pro cycling is Entertainment not actually real guys riding their bikes for fun, the element of money on any sport is why Doping is not only encouraged but also protected.

[@vojtechpodjukl6507]

Man wtf, you are exacerbating a bit too much

[@vojtechpodjukl6507]

Correction: you obviously don't know anything about cycling

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

@@vojtechpodjukl6507 Brother right now as I type there is a perfect weather conditions for cycling but due to the massive air pressure and 30 km hr winds zero cyclists out there right now, unless you are in a group forget about

[@AlcyonEldara]

The first line is BS, a century ago they were doing longer stages. The second line is BS. Time trials can be done faster than 40km/h by amateurs and 35km/h was the average in the 60s. Also the "average" is really a terrible measure. The third line is BS. Sponsors want a show. The fourth line is BS. Man, you don't have a clue. Correction: you obviously don't know anything about cycling

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

@@AlcyonEldara And it’s quite obvious you are are gullible knowing full well that UCI protected all the Dopers thus proving all my points correct. I don’t think you ever attempted to cycle in 30 km hr winds with massive air pressure that won’t help you when that tail wind hits you, that’s what we have here quite often in Southern Ontario. I grew up in Southern Europe cycling there is a joke compared to here with so much less air pressure and barely any winds. There is a reason the major Pro tours are done in the Southern parts of Europe due to less winds and low air pressure at higher altitudes for the climbs. I would rather climb a 1000 meter mountain than the crap I had to ride against today, 180lbs on a 9 kg bike and I was being tossed to the side of the road, barely anyone hitting 25 km hr today running solo with this weather. No climbing stage could ever be done with 35 km hr winds, last time this happened the race was cancelled and the riders had to push their bikes up the hills and these are elite level pro cyclists. Pro cycling is entertainment and therefore whatever UCI can allow to make the races faster with TUE’s and Hypoxic chamber sessions the more viewers they get so the sponsors can sell their bike products. UCI has to protect pro cycling as sponsors demand that and UCI makes their money, they can care less about the riders that’s why they protected the doping tests for Lance, Indurain, Le Mond, Fignon etc they do not protect them with safer bikes but protected their positive doping tests. No one has ever won any race in cycling without pharmaceutical assistance and that is a fact that no one has any argument over.

[@camdenNW1]

Was a sad time ( decades ) for cycling fans, its partly why i hate to see Discovery involved now with them controlling eurosport, they had to know what was happening.. not good.

[@mmmolchan]

Nice video! But if you watch Floyd’s tv interview, he said he doped on stage 16 (why he possibly didn’t feel good, and typically at the halfway mark of TDF they did the blood transfusion). So stage 17 was the day after.

[@TrueSportsLore]

Makes sense, dodgy blood bag

[@sepasaurus]

I Stood roadside on that Joux Plane stage, still have an old fashioned photo of Lloyd going past.... but he didn't change cycling- the title is misleading.

[@fistoftulkas7335]

It absolutely changed how people view cycling and that era in particular. That dodgy blood bag Landis got to be on fire for that stage basically snowballed into the entire Armstrong's drama and confessions.

[@koopalibrary]

everyone knew though. Like I remember coming home, and watching what happened. And even the commentators who were known for glossing over the darker parts of cycling kept dropping hints.

[@ChrisBKurimu]

Floyd’s watts are similar to Poggy and Vingegaard today because they are likely doping in some way as well. Tapentadol, for example, is not banned by the UCI for some reason.

[@bowendrzymalabokitch433]

Landis acting like a sith lord saying he used his anger 😂

[@florianh7065]

I really wonder though what happened on the stage before.

[@tunisiancarspotter]

seems everyone forgot about the doping case of Landis

[@Spartacus713]

The testosterone number still bothers me. You can’t have the numbers he had on stage 17, without having significantly higher numbers on the day before and the day after- it’s not a drug that can give a one day spike. His testosterone levels were normal the day before Stage 17 and the day after. Also, this is a sport. It’s not the same as if your surgeon was drunk/high during your surgery. The sad thing is it tainted a great comeback stage in the TDF.

[@Spartacus713]

@@molochz but from cyclists ridding professionally in that era (I raced as an amateur), testosterone didn’t give you a performance boost. It doesn’t help in endurance. It didn’t make sense.

[@dooshdashcams2629]

For more on this video, read the unattributed Wikipedia page on Floyd this narration recited word for word.

[@francoisgaboreau1097]

"Questions started to arise" after Landis's ban??! As soon as 1999 there were strong, serious questions about Armstrong ! He was tested positive but the UCI covered him.

[@Socialisten]

Christopher Horner praising the doper, screams Christopher was a doper too!

[@outdoorvertical]

There's no doubt pappy horner was juicing

[@outdoorvertical]

There's no doubt pappy horner was juicing😅 especially in the Vuelta...

[@randybrown4774]

Floyd looked a bit like Daryl Hall. ☺

[@andreasandremyrvold]

The professional cyclist Floyd Landis had a moral compass and Lance Armstrong did not. What does that tell you about politicians? Hint: they are professionals

[@mildandbitter]

I bet on Landis' to win that years tour. I was on tenterhooks waiting for the tour to end so I could collect my winnings because I was certain he had doped. I got my money in time!

[@ZdenekZeman433]

The bike was having a battery inside

[@kristofrookx8452]

Most of them we're doped anyway. Crazy performance. Basicly unmatched

[@andrewgoddard3350]

Sad that Floyd did this....great guy....

[@bg147]

He was juiced to the gills and had to know he would get caught if tested. I could see him tempting fate a bit and hoping to not get caught with a moderate boost, but he was 4 times over the limit. It doesn't make sense.

[@Socialisten]

At 10:00 I am still amazed at the approach to this, Landis was doped, not someone who proved anything to anyone ... other than he was a cheat.

[@Chris-dw3xl]

I think the doping test was wrong testosterone doesn’t work that quick it takes a few weeks for it to build up in the system , not a day was he made a scapegoat for Armstrong which in the end back fired??? Was it motor doping ? Which is more plausible we will never know

[@MarkCox-j2z]

Took a prescribed steroid once after an injury when trying to put in extra miles. Works great for day to day recovery.

[@chrisburch01]

And you've got 300 year old Vuelta winner, talking about Floyd.... OK.

[@MegaTubescreamer]

The despicable events now well documented over the last 25 years of TDF doping scandals cast a very dark shadow over the apparent collaboration between team sponsors and UCI corruption, who on earth will ever believe bike racing was EVER contested upon a level playing field, it NEVER has been.. and without any real desire to eradicate doping , it never will be.

[@flachi32]

It sounds harsh but I would have had bruyneel and Armstrong locked up for 7 years. And UCI. I still think of pro cycling as doped and it seems no one got punished for the systematic fraud.

[@danfuerthgillis4483]

“The stage that exposed the Tour De France in its glory” 😂

[@joshnoi1804]

It is not cheating until you get caught.

[@Saoco325]

Looks like the battery drained out on the first bike. If you brake a spoke, you can't ride any further.

[@onanthebarbarian9883]

Well you can...but you never know when the wheel will collapse

[@dickieblench5001]

Yes you can you just reach down and loosen off the caliper. The wheel isn't going to collapse

[@keirfarnum6811]

Not true. The wheel will go out of true, but it’s still rideable.

[@tobznoobs]

Lemond was the big winner, and Landis, even somewhat won, by dragging armstrong, still lost since he can't go on the tour again.