The Stanford Prison Experiment | I Don't Know About That with Jim Jefferies

In this episode, the team discusses The Stanford Prison Experiment with writer of the film "The Stanford Prison Experiment", Tim Talbott.
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[@williamcalkins2733]

They made glue from the horses that's how the horses put Humpty Dumpty back together they were turned into glue

[@michaelkohlberg5072]

Forgot about that fact good one

[@julieclark3768]

As a Canadian and someone who happens to have done brief stints in both American and Canadian jails/drunk tanks, I can tell you that Canadian correctional officers have been taught about this experiment and the whole culture there reflects the lesson learned from this experiment. Can't say the same for American correctional officers, although I only experienced them in Florida but still.

[@laalki80]

Now this sounds like an interesting story 😁

[@WKRP187]

You have to realize that in LA COUNTY jail alone they are 2500 inmates that are awaiting trial on murder/manslaughter charges.. not to mention the 1000s of other inmates awaiting trial. Our population is 10 times bigger than Canadas. More people=more criminals=more inmates, more stress, more guards, more guards that are aholes.. it's just the odds

[@FOREVERGREEN_MUSIC]

@@WKRP187 can’t believe you just defended our shitty criminal justice system that is actually just putting money into the pockets of the rich. Lmfao gotta love KZbin comments. The whole system can be and needs to be restructured but they refuse to. What a sap

[@WKRP187]

@@FOREVERGREEN_MUSIC You not very good at English comprehension? Wasn't defending shit just stating facts.. PS Boo hoo it's always the "rich" people's fault that you're poor isn't it. Has nothing to do with your poor decisions made in life. It's strictly because other people have money that makes you not have any 🙄... Victim mentality

[@mblack9087]

Totally right. More education and training with correctional staff the less abuse.

[@jimmbohn580]

minimum wage in 1971 - $1.60 . $15/day was better than working a 9 hour day.

[@ksthebest]

The prisoners were making 24 hour days though lol

[@mtraven23]

FYI: Humpty Dumpty was a very large cannon....thats why horses were involved in putting it back together. ahh fuck, kelly just looked it up

[@triskeliand]

Bloody hell, I managed to watch all of this and I am a Kiwi.... Good On ye

[@JK_Clark]

I reckon, if I was a guard I'd be one of the nice ones. I always go out of my way to be nice to guards, security, cleaners, receptionists etc, because I know a lot of people aren't.

[@ozsuncoast]

All essential and all just like you and me, no difference. Don't be a c*nt. Reply check from google doesn't like the word cunt

[@downer_dave]

Sounds like patronizing

[@JK_Clark]

@@downer_dave being nice to people?

[@downer_dave]

@@JK_Clark well, if you're only nice because you pity them, then yeah, it comes off that way. It was how I read your comment, not who you are as a person. It was the way it was phrased is what I'm trying to say.

[@JK_Clark]

@@downer_dave sympathising with someone isn't condescending - you just imagined the most negative take on my nice post and went with it. What word would you use to describe that?

[@Arational]

The power trip of the guards is similar to police behavior in the US.

[@dash-x]

In Highschool I took an AP psych class and had the coolest teacher who had us doing all types of trips and experiments. However, we were the last class able to do them because of parental complaints and other teacher complaints. Primarily the other teachers were upset over the experiment he had us do which was to stay up for 3nights straight and log our experience. I guess some classmates were falling asleep in other classes and doing poorly on tests. But that was sort of the point. We also took trips to our state penitentiary for both men and women. However, the day we went to the male pen there was a stabbing incident right before we arrived, and so it wasn’t the full experience. It was still scary as they had us dress down upon arrival and take off all jewelry etc… and as we walked down the corridor they were catcalling us through the bars and this loud blaring alarm came on followed by a series of clicks and the guard told us it was “feeding time.” It was such a wild experience honestly. Made me terrified to never get in trouble. We also were nearby the now closed prison that had the countries worst prison riot.

[@Arational]

Prof Rod Drugs staked students out on the grass with heavy doses 1978.

[@Arational]

"I am not a number. I am a human being. " #6

[@jeffblackmon5016]

Take off eh, you hosers! You don't know who Dave Thomas is and SCTV? Need a show on the Great White North and back bacon!

[@claysanford2648]

I first thought of the Wendy's guy Eh.. .. and then I thought of Dave and Rick Moranis and SCTV Fantastic comedy!

[@pqrstsma2011]

7:35 Jack and Jim, 'Holland' is actually a province within The Netherlands... well actually 2, because there's North Holland and South Holland... but because they contain the largest cities such as Amsterdam and Rotterdam, i suppose 'muricans just started referring to the whole country as Holland

[@resolecca]

People here in NZ and Australia don't know the difference either its not just an American problem, also the other confusing one is Uk, England and Briton

[@gart9680]

@@resolecca England is a country. The UK (United Kingdom) is a political State (in construct, the same as the old Soviet Union), consisting of several countries, but, it all goes back to Anglo/English control over its neighbouring countries. Britain/British Isles (which the English use to refer to all Islands, including the whole of Ireland, off the coast of Europe) & Great Britain are basic Anglo imperialist geographical terms, used to marginalise the social/cultural identity of, principally, Scotland & Ireland. Language is control. E.G. The unionist population of Northern Ireland refer to themselves as British. But! Factually, Britain isn't a country. It's a fascinating method of control. Westminster, the English parliament, which is the seat of UK power, utilises the phrase, Great Britain, as an ideological and cultural tool of identity to represent the Union of Scotland and England, but, once again, it's about control. *In practice, culturally, socially and ideologically, British equates to English.* We see an example of Anglo imperialist control with the Westminster UK government's refusal to allow the democratically elected Scottish devolved government to hold an independence referendum. Keeping in mind, the Scottish government came to power running on a mandate to deliver said referendum. It's all rather creepy and sinister.

[@flanky2020]

And a province is like a state ;)

[@paulclissold1525]

Magpies are one of the noblest animals on earth. You shouldve made friends jim.

[@readmycomments100]

I have a wild one that eats out of my hand 🤙

[@paulclissold1525]

@@readmycomments100 mine checks to make sure l dont sleep in. At 4:30

[@BraniusBalki]

Is raining a lot in Perth today.

[@joesikic6531]

Possibly a cannon

[@harrisonmackenzie]

49:35 of course this was at The Tam 😂

[@greenpilltheory6649]

The take away here is, "The horses are involved."

[@velardur]

"treat people as you like to be treated" is a horrible way to live. Why would the way you like to be treated be the same for someone else? A much better way is "Do not treat people the way you do not want them to treat you"

[@OfficialFingazMC]

I've been to prison a few times (all be it in England) and something is off with the experiment. Apparently they all had clean bills of health including mentally. Now I suffer from a plethora of mental illness' and if they all went mad that quickly whether the guards or inmates there is defo something wrong with them in the head OR I think they were spiking the water with LSD or the whole thing was a work... And believe me real jail is a lot harder than what they went through. Btw I'm going from both films about it, so u haven't watched the podcast yet, so maybe I'll learn something.

[@krupakarhans7140]

And the eggs got cracked and his legs went jelly!

[@mjomalley]

Humpty Dumpty refers to a Celtic Myth

[@pittypatterputzzler5311]

Say hi to Carsten! Erobique.

[@Arational]

Humpty took a dumpty

[@derheadbanger9039]

Wait, didn't at least one of the prison guards claim he got instructions to be cruel? Why didn't they mention this?

[@seanbatiz6620]

I think that bit was “alleged” but not corroborated… tho, I could be wrong on this

[@albertmeszaros6886]

Yes 😀 this experiment was debunked in 2018... of course there are questions as always, but it is clear that Zimberdo has manipulated the guards to be harsh. There are a lot articles if you search for debunk... and there is a good book of Rutger Bregman: Humankind, where he writes a lot about this.

[@TheWindynook]

There’s two films

[@georgeabdulnour2727]

Hi Mate 👍.

[@sognos824]

Hi mate

[@JK_Clark]

@@sognos824 Hi mate

[@ohjaay54]

Hi mate

[@richardhankins2713]

Don’t have a comment about your episode. But I’ll be coming to one of your shows in a few months. I really want to eat some edibles/mushrooms with you and then go to the local casino.

[@AtypicalPaul]

Great episode. Very interesting

[@cosumar6551]

I am pretty sure they also made this into a Movie just blatantly stealing the entire premise but with adults not students and way more intense scenes and going way overboard but it was still a good watch with Adrian Brody and Forest Whitaker and I believe it is just called "The Experiment" i think... but I do remember watching that movie even before hearing about this real life study and movie made based on the real life event.

[@drgonzo1971]

Holland makes up the most populous part of the Netherlands, it's two provinces out of 12 in the entire country.

[@carolyntalbot947]

Thank God for this podcast, I was almost desperate enough for Whitney Cummings.

[@skoll_5682]

Must be in the algo. Just watched 30% of one, realised what I was doing and came back.

[@velardur]

Holland and The Netherlands are not the same. The Netherlands is the country, Holland is a region within the Netherlands.

[@mojorisin8368]

Great to see how far you've fallen. You deserve every single bit of it.

[@downer_dave]

This sounds a lot like prison

[@antybee2736]

Were some of the inmates and guards selling drugs to each other like in real prisons?

[@Stikibits]

Japan is called Nihon.

[@dennysigfalk4886]

Holland is a part of Netherlands, or two Holland regions really, north and south

[@manfran1]

How about America, United States, and Columbia? They're all one country. :-D

[@resolecca]

as usual you forgot Aotearoa aka New Zealand

[@Arthur_Pendragon2022]

Has anyone done this on a bigger scale?

[@cosumar6551]

Watch "The Experiment" 2010 w/ Adrian Brody

[@AtypicalPaul]

Lol Ezra Miller is in that movie

[@BPH55]

Is Jack transitioning?

[@unclesunbro1577]

Humpty dumpty was a cannon.

[@zacharyalan4977]

This is canon.

[@dilligaffer2776]

Holland is North and South Holland. These are 2 provinces that are part of the Netherlands. Not the same at all. It is only the Anglophones that call them Dutch. As usual it is the fault of the Brits. As we all know, the German word for Germany is ‘Deutschland’. Now, for the British everyone who spoke a Germanic language was one and the same. This resulted in the British calling people from Germany and the Netherlands both Dutch. Just as ridiculous is that the people from Deutschland became German

[@flanky2020]

To put it in a reference frame for mericans; It’s like calling all of USA California.

[@JonSebring]

Caliente means hot. Not hot water

[@TheLastOfChris]

But agua caliente means hot water. Which is what they said.

[@stayinhome3928]

Guys You live in America / USA.

[@TheRealKalEll]

Slowly, creeping... BUD.

[@YCWideawakeFinest252]

Are they talking about the Ezra Miller Elijah Wood movie?

[@YCWideawakeFinest252]

Cuz the Adrien Brody Forrest Whitaker joint was crazyyy, and not true, but def better

[@musalmaniac6328]

I dont know about jim, with that jefferies!

[@iambigtee235]

I could defo shit on a toilet with no seat, no door and an audience for 100 dollars

[@pepelucho1751]

In basic one time we had to shit on an open toilet with a rectangle square with 8 holes in it. We had to shit literally touching a guy next to you. That was the live fire day where they shot the rounds over our heads where we crawled across sand and over barbwire. Basic was wild, and none of the things they are talking about here are even remotely shocking. I've been to prison, and basic was so much worse.

[@FitzyyLives]

New Kink or new hobby 🤔

[@iambigtee235]

@@FitzyyLives if I enjoy the kink I might make it a hobby

[@AtypicalPaul]

I do believe honey tracks and sells your data.

[@kenniferlopez1]

Hey.....you prisoners wanna buy some weed?

[@mikechristian6069]

Uh oh you said the "C" word. You'll be cancelled for sure in no time 🤣

[@d.-_-.b]

Yeah just like all the youtubers reacting to The Boys.

[@michaelmcdonald5175]

Have you done Beatles episode, if not why not.

[@sognos824]

No I’m hi mate

[@nesamdoom]

The ethical limits of this study were woefully ignored. It's a terrible example of how to run a study/experiment on several levels. There are ways to do this study with control and safety and get usable results through multiple iterations rather than just push it to a shit conclusion and get negligable results.

[@ejyounggun08]

I'm a dumb American and even I know the Netherlands and Holland are not the same. They are used interchangeably by Americans. But The Netherlands refers to a particular area of Holland. It'd be like calling America, The Midwest or America. Holland is Holland.

[@paulclissold1525]

Dutch is a german word. Nippon not japan.

[@jp3102]

think of it like this. the podcast at its beginning is now what you get today in the patreon. when they say its "free" ITS KZbin!!! its all free. they still get paid for it! plus they get paid from the adverts and the views!....as for the advert shit....jims never used babel...lets drop the ...i use everything that i get told to read XD cmon . be real to your fanss. without us youw wouldnt have a platform to p1ss in

[@borlach_]

Holland = provinces of Netherlands. That's like saying Dakota is the same as America. Japan is Nipon. And just to help any Americans, Worcestershire is pronounced Wuss Ter Shurr

[@thomashamilton8813]

First to say first!

[@EamesBrulee]

I was so keen to watch, but the mic audio dropping in late and randomly out - just too frustrating! Lasted 33 mins - couldn't take any more. Just going to watch the movie instead.

[@paulhawthorne2960]

🤡

[@camb8722]

Still can't stand Forrest

[@sognos824]

Hi forrest

[@korbindallas4552]

You obviously can't see Forrest for the trees.. Also he's a comedian by trade but he has to be the babysitter/adult in this situation in order to keep the train on the tracks. If he wasn't there it would just be an anti-thematic podcast.

[@ozsuncoast]

Arrrr... all right mate... settle down... he's okay... he has sex with Manatees.

[@Daniel_25]

Same. He drives me crazy

[@lyy90]

This podcast is going downhill. I think jim forgets the reason people watch this show, FOR HIM. As nice as he seems the kid and forest are a wierd combination and fit for the show. The kid is just goofy and gives the vibes he plays guitar around the campfire everynight and forest gives the vibes he has a few dead cats in its basement. In all seriousness the core jim jeffries fanbase likes the dark unhinged humour that jim provides not this wierd faux-family vibe. P.s forest you are a producer for a podcast not an editor for an emergency broadcast, let jim flow with his jokes as it is probably more interesting than half of these shit topics anyway. Use the format as a guideline and not the main thing. People are here to be humoured not so much educated

[@mindsfunnypictures7566]

Jim jefferies stole Doug stanhopes act while in England and sold it out to the woke mob and blew it and came crawling back

[@lemmy9942]

I agree with your "boring topics" statements but disagree with your stance on deforestation

[@ragnarlodbrok9186]

I know people are here more to be entertained than educated, but I like the fact that I've learned a lot of things about topics I'd never have looked into myself had it not been for this podcast.

[@FitzyyLives]

I would like to disagree with your entire comment. I enjoy both Jack and forest, and I believe this podcast has only gotten better with time. They have found a formula that works for them. They got rid of the cringey theme songs and segments, and stuck with the stuff that really worked. This of course is my own opinion, though

[@jp3102]

@@FitzyyLives the segments arent cringe. they are in the patreon