THE STORE Setup My Les Paul

[@twobyfour]

I`m sorry Dave, I`ve only just discovered this gem of a channel. If it`s any consolation I`m binge watching as I type. I`ve learned more about set ups from here in the last 24 hours than years of supposed YT channel tutorials. Plus, you`re a funny bloke. Cheers.

[@Jerrylumdegaard]

Ah the old “store setup”. Otherwise known as keep Dave in business.

[@puppyy780]

I would pay any amount to have Dave roast my set ups 😂

[@jimballardband]

Sad to say but the music stores are sadly lacking in service. None ever told me anything about set-up when I got a new guitar. I had to fly by the seat of my pants. With what I’ve learned from you, I could make most of them look ignorant. Thanks Dave. Now I kinda, know what I’m doing. Yep gotta think inside the box before you can think outside. 👍🏼✌🏼🍻

[@slamcrank]

Kind of depends... the rare mom-and-pop stores are actually really great. Unfortunately, I've seen this exact situation (chattered finish, dumb adjustments, horrible intonation etc) from the techs at Guitar Center. I would 100% believe this customer took his guitar to a GC and had them do a setup. I've seen it countless times over the past two decades. The last one I saw damaged like this was GC had done a setup on a Collins electric and had tried to adjust the bridge with a vice-grip wrench.

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I’ve taken chances on guitar center guitars that weren’t set up at all but I had a feeling that they were good guitars and was right. The sales associates wouldn’t even give me a multi tool to try to correct the bridge enough to be playable! One of the times I asked if the guitar would come with a setup if I bought it and they simply said their tech guy just quit! That would have to be really frustrating for someone just starting out!

[@jimballardband]

@@slamcrank I went to one of the oldest music stores in town, close to home. They sell and rent all kinds of instruments. I was looking for a “ashtray” bridge cover for my Precision. I thought no problem. I knew Guitar Center didn’t have it. The owner in his 70’s replies ashtray? What’s that? I explain. He goes in the back and comes out, says; here’s what I got. I tell him those are Tele and a Strat ashtrays. 3 young guys working there just have blank looks on their faces. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Blew my mind. I had to order one online.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

The store gooched it. Dave un-gooched it.

[@nitr8]

Sounds like a great segue into joke/gag products - "Daves Un-Gooching Spray (As seen on KZbin)"

[@davestambaugh7282]

Dave's insight is 100%. You have to be able to recognize the box before you can even tell where you are in relationship to it.

[@Me-qp8vz]

Dave would spot the box even if it was pretending to be a sphere!

[@honkytonkinson9787]

What’s in the box!!!?

[@davestambaugh7282]

@@honkytonkinson9787 That's for me to know and for you to find out. I doubt that you have never heard that phrase before

[@DMSProduktions]

@@honkytonkinson9787 Warm, WET tunnels of looove! ;oP

[@DMSProduktions]

He has the box!

[@smasica]

Words of Wisdom: In order to break the rules, you first must know the rules.

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

that is contract law in a nutshell

[@IL2TXGunslinger]

“If your gonna be thinking outside the box……. You have to learn to think inside first….!” I’ve been looking for that saying without knowing, all my life. Thanks!

[@kylemoran4343]

Careful Dave, Stew Mac is watching and will turn yer Zig Zag Luthier gauge into a moneymaker. Bwahahaha Twist (ed) one

[@ronnie5129]

Dave, I love your Humor, and tell it like it IZ Factor, Most stores hire young punks that play Guitar, But Do Not Know how to work on them, but they let them work on them, a bad move, I bought a new Les Paul Standard in 2004 From Gibson Factory, The Tailpiece was put in to close to the Bridge, The Low E A and D strings Saddles were so far back that it was Imposible to Intonate, So I flipped them over to have some room and intonated it myself, rather than Dealing with Incompetent People at Gibson again, I got it to work just fine, But I will never buy a Guitar From Gibson Again, Keep the great videos coming, Cousin Figel

[@mikecollins8241]

I can imagine a young, aspiring, guitar tech somewhere in Toronto, is now crying in his coffee :) " I tried so hard to do it like Dave said..."

[@brianglade848]

Dave.....love the "ear digger" hex key.....brutal how the stores screw this up, I'd seiously take a new guitar to you any day

[@PaulKennedy5]

Just arrived in Toronto for the first time, headed over from the UK. First thing my phone gives me is Dave!

[@4602experience]

Welcome

[@LesPaul-MorePaul]

Welcome to Canada 🇨🇦

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

stop by I'm in the Beach area

[@dangolguitartech]

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m going to guess that it was the Gooch store? And I gave her a thumbs up already just because it’s Dave and I know it’ll be great.🤠

[@paintnamer6403]

After a long day of drinking I used my heavily spattered welding pliers to make that adjustment.

[@garyl6190]

Great and informative video. Thanks!

[@dis.infectant]

Those TuneOmatic angles being what they are seem to be a reason people opt for the wrap around. It does lesson the overall tension and string breakage from my observation.

[@lawrencearnemann3923]

Love that Dave has rolling papers in his tool kit

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

bottle opener and cork screw

[@jamesfetherston1190]

@@DavesWorldofFunStuff Must have been a Boy Scout!

[@daniels.2720]

Sure Dave...sure...

[@oneammonday]

My old fingers won't let me use them lil' papers anymore, so I'm rollin' bigger joints nowadays.

[@-suphur]

I bought a Reverend online from Cosmo and it arrived perfect. Most that I've bought new, I've had to tweak once I got them home.

[@Me-qp8vz]

New guitar with those scratches? I'd be kicking some arse if my new Les Paul came back with scratches!

[@mamulcahy]

I like the idea of using rolling papers to check for clearance!

[@Thomasdgolden]

I had a similar setup issue with a new PRS S2. Customer said it was set up as per “sign off” card. Trem O Lo was pinned, pickup screw disengaged and more fun. I just laugh.

[@MrCaptpike]

funny. I bought a epiphone les paul and it came out the box perfect. I've owned it for over 10 years and never had the truss rod cover off.

[@TheFULLMETALCHEF]

Same experience here.

[@Edwinvanwylick666]

I’ll be damned if i let a guitar leave the store i work at like that. Lots of my work is doing setups that other stores didn’t do or just botched.

[@daleturner3507]

There are so many guys who believe the stop bar must be all the way to the body. You’ll hear it’s the sustain or tone but it wouldn’t be adjustable if it wasn’t meant to be.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Wants tons of sustain Plays only eighths and sixteenths

[@heikkivuori]

Dave you are best!

[@nichesound]

Old Zag paper...haha love it!...and those scuff marks were the stores 'attempt at antiquing'??

[@michaelcottle6270]

Question. How high should the stop-bar be set? Instinct tells me you should be aiming to have the strings going over the saddles as straight as possible but every Gibson seems to introduce a bend at the saddle.

[@relativity1581]

Pro tip: The stop bar should be set identical angle as what you have at the opposite end from the nut to the tuners. Makes sense if you think about it. Stop bar too low and strings are less bendable. Too high and strings will come off the saddles. You can do it by eyeball and if the strings have the same downward slope on each end that will be your maximum sustain point for the string. You can also go slightly more downward on the lower strings side to tighten up the lower end of your barre chords.

[@halbertking2683]

I've used Zig Zags before but never as a feeler gauge . That's it . You got a fan for life , me .

[@BasicDrumming]

Great video.

[@marshallohio5512]

Dave makes me Smile 😀 all the time!

[@kerrynance1777]

Another Lester plays again! Nice job, Dave. Did I see a dude silkscreening a batch of Tee shirts on FB??? Available soon???

[@pcbullets8726]

Too bad about the hack job on the finish. Especially on a new ax. My first Les Paul I owned, the strings were cranked down like this and being my first one, I thought the strings were suppose to be like that. Figured it out pretty quick when I kept snapping strings that it was not the right way. Cheers!

[@sassycat]

Last week a sandwich artist, this week a guitar tech.

[@michaelmoore7975]

Yeah those aren't holes to to save weight, but every little bit counts on a LP.

[@JustinSmithPYRO]

I always have a problem with the g string. Maybe I should send my guitars to you. I have a few Les Paul's that need some work

[@honkytonkinson9787]

I have a mark of shame on my LP studio from when I was trying to adjust the bridge with pliers cause I didn’t know what I was doing. Not sure what to do about it except spill a bunch of beer on it

[@vicpnut1]

What do you recommend for a pickup height? This is second vid of urs I’ve come across and you seem to be an advocate for a specific height ,seeing you have one certain device you used for checking height …or at least I think it was the Same for both a tele and a Paul …

[@trroland1248]

That’s a nice Studio.

[@chrishenderson9130]

Lmao at the zigzag papers. Whatcha doing, dave?

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

I do tend to deck the stopbar, but then again, like some sort of weirdo, I also topwrap the strings.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Tonewoods!

[@billn7183]

When you said it's always the G string that gets messed up , were you still talking about guitars ? 🙂

[@ronnie5129]

Dave, my guess is that the store Could have been that Miserable Guitar Center, that i read is Going out of Business IDK, Cousin Figel

[@TheLonesometoad]

Okay, Dave. WTF are you doing with the Zig Zags??

[@dericdomino]

i had a guitar center tech scratch my finish on my lespaul gc said too bad my lawyer said different guitar replaced quite quickly

[@robinleebraun7739]

Plekking isn’t a setup. All it does is level the frets. All the other things still have to be done. Nut slots, string heights, intonation, truss rod, and making sure the strings are clearing the back of the bridge.

[@dabsafe]

🎶Long & McQuade where your wallet gets thin🎵. Bought a Gibson LP Tribute a couple months ago from L&M (aka, the Devil Incarnate). It was still in the box with the factory setup and believe it or not, it was perfect. I guess the “tech” at the Hamilton store didn’t get their fingers in it. 😎🇨🇦🎸

[@catalan26]

Was this a long Mcquade in southern Ontario? Bought my first les Paul there last month, and it was a fret buzz nightmare!

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

Cosmo. I was told

[@MrJonguess]

Which grit of fret eraser do you use to just clean the fret?

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

depends ..400 grit is your friend then 1000

[@MrJonguess]

Thanks Dave

[@stevenkimsey7039]

I haven't thought about a rolling paper in a long time. I'm trying to remember the brand name from the 1980's. Zig , J&B, Tops

[@kennyjohnson336]

Bambu 😁

[@michaelmoore7975]

Riz La+

[@guitarprepnplus1]

EZ wider

[@ZBoyforlife]

What is the outro song? I love that bass line and I always scroll through the comments to see if someone mentions it, but no one does.

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

It's a tune on the Penny Black CD.

[@KenIn_NH]

Me thinks the previous 'tech' was using zigzags for more than a feeler gauge. 🤪

[@OzziePete1]

Hi Dave, I hope your health continues to improve. Has anyone ever figured out why the G string is such a MOFO to tune and intonate?

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

it's a fat solid wire that used to ge a wound string long ago

[@bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb77]

cut corners lol i love it i used to buy those

[@sweettoof9002]

Love the use of rolling papers Dave wink wink

[@zeroman614]

Using zig-zags help it resin-ate better.

[@scottbee501]

What are you going to do with that paper, Dave?

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

it's a test tool. I keep it

[@scottbee501]

I had a paper similar to that and it spontaneously went “Up in Smoke”.

[@Tomtoms-tomtoms]

Awe man, ive been playing for 25 years and never knew a hex key fits in those bridge holes!!.. the amount of times ive nearly skinned my thumbs trying to turn those ‘thumb screw’ wheels by hand 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️ 😂😂😂

[@niptodstan]

It's only the new ones that are like that.

[@johnsimms3957]

I always detune the strings before adjusting the bridge.

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

small amounts mean nothing

[@michaelmoore7975]

Those are really weight relief holes.

[@larrynoe6162]

If you are incapable of thinking, being inside or outside the box makes no difference. You could see from the string angle alone going from the stop bar to the bridge this little les needed some help from you Dave.

[@chapsleathers1144]

I want that guitar please

[@stonedome93]

Gooched Wars: Attack of The Store

[@nellayema2455]

Was it new from that store, or did the customer take it in there for a setup? It is a shame if the store gooched the finish. If the owner did it, then I guess he learned a lesson.

[@1muffler]

You don't have to think outside the box if you just make the box bigger..... but yah....

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

Go USA go Russia..make yer box bigger :)

[@goodtimefolkrock]

your independant music stores tend to have decent techs in my experience but big box places are usually pretty awful

[@jlore6344]

Of course Dave has Zig Zag papers around :)

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

I'm french

[@jlore6344]

Ahhh that explains some of the language used on the channel as well :) . Thanks for clarifying.

[@johnmartin5147]

Some people believe that when the tailpiece is all the way down increases the sustain. So if it hits the back of the bridge overwrap the tailpiece. I have a Les Paul I did that to and works great. Joe Bonamassa has some set up like that and got hints from a video of his guitar tech doing it. Everyone has different ideas.

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

some people believe in a god..just learn to play

[@ashbridgej]

Job security!

[@tonyg6158]

I'm using the thinnest piece of paper I can find. I actually spit beer out of my mouth.

[@larryburwell8550]

Nice guitar but store must specialize in fenders

[@scottdunbar4898]

Guitar Store Guy:" Can I help you sir?" Dave (A la Ron Swanson) "I know more than you".

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

Looks like a Lez Paul Tribute model.

[@ThatOtherAndi]

that ZigZag just spiked my cravings

[@greenwave792]

I deal with a small Mom and Pop music store, when I went to buy my Les Paul Custom, I asked if I needed to get a set-up....he replied (with an attitude) ALL our guitars are set up and ready to go......It was NOT, Now, granted it was an Epiphone LP custom so it was 1100, for 1100 I want the best LP in the store, NOT the one I got. fck guitar center, sweetwater, I'll stick to the Mom and Pop...just wanted more for my money, 1100 bucks is a lot of money, for me.

[@MusicMike939]

He makes it look so easy. But it is not that easy. Have to know what your doing.

[@Timpolllo]

Yea

[@er5406]

We won’t ask why you have a ZigZag rolling paper.

[@HL-qn6xd]

He's a musician...enough said. 😎✌

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

legal in Canada

[@HL-qn6xd]

@@DavesWorldofFunStuff California too...one more reason to stay...😎✌fyi...my birthday is 4/20...no kidding...is that a sign???

[@johnrau2265]

Whether a young person thinks in or out of the box is not as important as that they actually THINK.😉 Think rationally. Think critically. Think frequently.

[@glenngardin3561]

TBH, the only thing the store had wrong was the bridge height. Everything else was pretty good.

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

close but no cigar..who damaged the body?

[@arrempop3]

There’s a Zig-Zag Method for everything

[@michaelmoore7975]

"Fast" Fretty Fingerboard was a good player.

[@Ron_Padgett]

Well, that's not a stock Les Paul. They don't come with Seymour Duncan pickups, and I have a 2020 Les Paul standard and it does not have the allen wrench holes on the bridge posts, but I have no problem adjusting it with my fingers. No pliers needed so yeah some dumbass dinged up the finish. Great job Dave.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

I bought a guitar from a small shop that "set up" every guitar themselves. It was set to "cheese cutter".

[@jeffsquires6620]

Dude, I know a brand new ZIG ZAG when I see it. Onion.

[@michaelshepherd1072]

Oh oh!

[@polymorphism1966]

ZigZag I almost missed that

[@jamesreyes4654]

Huh a zigzag rolling paper wonder what that’s for 🥴😂

[@Justin-eu3yd]

the thinnest piece of paper, and its a rolling paper LOL

[@Aceroxx02]

I can't speak to L&M, but here in the US, if you can tune a guitar they will hire you to be a guitar tech at Guitar Center....that's it....tune it. No other understanding of a setup or how it works is needed.....

[@RayC234]

Yeah I took delivery of my brand new Gibson from Sweetwater where they supposedly do a 55 Point Inspection that they tout about so much and it played like ass, and don't get me started on the so called plek job Gibson says they do. Probably be the last guitar I buy from Sweetwater and last Gibson as well. Which is a shame because it is my first Gibson and the whole experience just turned into a giant turd all around. sigh...should've went with the Yamaha but hey we live and learn right.

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

PRS for the win or G&L

[@taimaishu-nao1922]

Gibson quality has shit the bed so hard in the last decade, it’s not even funny. Really gives “made in USA” a bad name when you spend $2800 on a guitar and the paint is ass and the neck joint is busted. But hey… “play authentic”, right? That’s why Fender is kicking the shit out of them and the Mexico factory at that!

[@jebthaaxe]

hey Dave

[@vicpnut1]

What ever would you need rollin paper for? 😜

[@MatthewSemones]

i have a hard time believing someone would accept that guitar with that buggered up finish straight from the store... i know i wouldn't

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

i never said who did it..it was set up at a store

[@MatthewSemones]

@@DavesWorldofFunStuff what i meant was, that was probably done by someone in between the store and you. most likely the embarrassed owner. lol

[@THESESSIONROOM]

Let me guess Long n Mcquade?🤣

[@DavesWorldofFunStuff]

Cosmo

[@larryburwell8550]

Young people today can't even think outside the bag!

[@wayneg296]

👍👍😎✌️🤟

[@cvdevol]

Dang it. A "Les Paul" without neck and body binding. Just doesn't do it for me.

[@TheYoungMontana]

Great bang for your buck tho, it's less than $1K and only weighs about 7 lbs. I have one with P90s, it was my first LP and I love it still.

[@nickdryad]

Cost cutting measures. Guitars need a binding. It’s there for a reason, especially on acoustics as it prevents splitting of end grain, and generally chipping of the top. Fingerboards, not so much but it’s still the mark of a well made instrument, with longevity in mind. It’s role is the as purfling on a violin. It’s a form/ aesthetic and function consideration. Binding on guitars adds consider time to production costs.

[@SSRT_JubyDuby8742]

Like deployed 👍

[@j_freed]

That Les Paul tailpiece looks like it was top wrapped at one point, at least I would try that before raising it. If it’s good enough for a ‘55, it’ll work on a ‘57 style.

[@sqidvishus]

This is doubly bad. Gibson's are plek'd from the factory. That the store further gooched it is a testament to the pride in workmanship in today's big box stores.

[@skyprop]

Ah-Ha Rolling paper I see now. Perhaps you needed to roll something in that before working on that guitar...LOL