The Story of Another World on the Amiga | MVG

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2 жыл бұрын

Another World released in 1991 by Delphine Software originally on the Commodore Amiga 500. The game was developed by Eric Chahi made use of 2D Polygons, Rotoscoping and Genlocks to bring its cinematic experience to life. Another World is considered one of the most influential games of all time. In this episode we take a deep dive on how the game was built and how it managed to run well on a stock 7mhz Amiga 500.
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Music Credits:
► Another World: Official Soundtrack - Jean-François Freitas
► Eon by The Black Lotus - h0ffman
Sources:
► Another World - The Making Of with Eric Chahi - • Another World - The Ma...
► Another World GDC Post Mortem - www.gamedeveloper.com/console...
► The Polygons of Another World - fabiensanglard.net/another_wo...
► Anotherworld.fr - www.anotherworld.fr/anotherwor...
► Another World GBA - www.gbadev.org/demos.php?show...
► Alain-TreeSong - github.com/alain-treesong/
► Amiga Bitplanes - amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_...
► Making of - Out of This World / Another World - • Making of - Out of Thi...
► The Black Lotus - Eon - Amiga Demo - • The Black Lotus - Eon ...
► Phenomena - Enigma - Amiga Demo - • Phenomena - Enigma - A...
► Commodore Amiga Genlocks - • Commodore Amiga Genlocks
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@ModernVintageGamer
@ModernVintageGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Great to be back in 2022. Please Enjoy!
@tazz1911er
@tazz1911er 2 жыл бұрын
Certified amiga moment
@timXD
@timXD 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year MVG! Thanks so much for all the amazing videos last year! 😁
@nielshkristensen1815
@nielshkristensen1815 2 жыл бұрын
you can get a nice new pc version on g.o.g.com Another World 20th anniversary ;-)
@mattb9664
@mattb9664 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! Thank you for the content!
@MMOchAForPrez
@MMOchAForPrez 2 жыл бұрын
Proof MVG has come from the future
@ProfessorHoffman
@ProfessorHoffman 2 жыл бұрын
That low poly aesthetic aged really well
@Daniel15au
@Daniel15au 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons it aged well because it's a 2D game and the controls are very tight and responsive. Some low-poly 3D games aged very poorly, like Alone in the Dark.
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk 2 жыл бұрын
I was blown away by the demo for this game back in the day.
@freedom_aint_free
@freedom_aint_free 2 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel15au Like just abut everything in the N64 (to me the worst offender), Jaguar and a lot on the Game Cube.
@turboprint3d
@turboprint3d 2 жыл бұрын
Due in part to the amazing rotoscoping
@BenSamaChan
@BenSamaChan 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding...
@Jeffcrocodile
@Jeffcrocodile 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day this looked like a game from the future, i can't describe how beautiful and different from anything else it was.
@HextremePL
@HextremePL 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍 I also recommend the video > *Echa Ekranu* 👍
@michaelgwynne3594
@michaelgwynne3594 2 жыл бұрын
I had another world on the Atari St and it was so mesmerising, at first it looks like a highly polished animated story then you realise you can actually play it. Easily one of my favourite ST games and so groundbreaking
@jajabinx35
@jajabinx35 2 жыл бұрын
Yep same. Commented to this to give the Atari st some love. Yes I know the Amiga was the popular choice.... But the Atari ST could stand on its ground. I still remember the music apps like cubase on it.
@tolindaniel
@tolindaniel 2 жыл бұрын
Same!! This was the only game I ever remember my parents being interested in when I was a kid, and we all work together to figure out how to finish it. One of my most cherished gaming memories for sure.
@lucian2701
@lucian2701 2 жыл бұрын
tbh I thought it was originally an ST game, so given the lack of blitter and less cpu time available due to the samples it would be interesting to see how easily it was converted to the ST.. Plus I've just about reached amiga saturation after all these years.
@MacMelmac
@MacMelmac 2 жыл бұрын
Great developer could do magic on the ST. Unfortunately to many didn't care. Funny that a lot of the best developers on the ST was from France. Both machines are fantastic in their own fields.
@michaelgwynne3594
@michaelgwynne3594 2 жыл бұрын
@@jajabinx35 yep, and the Atari ST did it without a blitter chip too
@MunchenerFrance
@MunchenerFrance 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a long time ago an interview of Eric Chahi and the fact he developed the game alone, for 2 years. My parents were astonished at the time that a game could take so long to develop, and started to take the media seriously.
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad my wife still doesn't take it seriously lol
@ichigen511
@ichigen511 7 күн бұрын
@@casedistorted LOL. I've been there brother! I'm too old to find women my age who respect video games. I was born in 1972 and in elementary school through high school I was considered a geek, a nerd and it wasn't cool. Even in college (I studied Computer Science but dropped out) all the girls I dated were NOT into games they didn't like Street Fighter II etc etc. The world is a different place now guys AND girls play video games and the geek world is considered cool. I was born a few decades too early LOLOLOL. Not really but you get what I mean. I feel your pain brother! Good luck!
@GearSeekers
@GearSeekers 2 жыл бұрын
Another World is an absolute masterpiece!
@hunam3876
@hunam3876 2 жыл бұрын
It truly is.
@guaposneeze
@guaposneeze 2 жыл бұрын
It was hugely significant, but the actual gameplay did not live up to the cutscenes. Kicking ineffectually at those damned ground slugs was not that fun. And the actual level design didn't really take advantage of the polygon renderer to work that differently from any sprite + tile platformer.
@dzltron
@dzltron 2 жыл бұрын
It blew my mind, still does.
@kmieciu4ever
@kmieciu4ever 2 жыл бұрын
@@guaposneeze The intro and the graphics were truly out of this world, but the gameplay was meh. Back then, I preferred to play Worms and Cannon Fodder :-)
@bobdawkins7473
@bobdawkins7473 2 жыл бұрын
Was also way more scary than anything now days other than Amnesia. Another world had serious atmosphere!
@SomeDudeSomewhere
@SomeDudeSomewhere 2 жыл бұрын
Another World completely blew my mind when I first put that floppy disk in my father's 486 back then. I will never forget the intro, the music, the atmosphere and, as an indie dev, I can confirm it's one of the games that has most influenced me.
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 2 жыл бұрын
Dude it blew my mind and I played it first on the Super Nintendo as a kid, it was still advanced during that time as well. Can't imagine what it was like playing the game very shortly after it came out.
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 2 жыл бұрын
It was amazing seeing these cinematics on the SNES back in the day. It seemed impossible but there it was.
@-Patali-
@-Patali- 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about the game a few years ago. I bought it for SNES and my mind was blown at what I was seeing on my super nintendo
@thepumpkingking8339
@thepumpkingking8339 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Patali- Yeah.. All I can remember back in the day on the SNES Version was no Butt Crack in the swimming pool scene. Tut, Tut Big N... LOL...
@Varangian_af_Scaniae
@Varangian_af_Scaniae 2 жыл бұрын
I am so impressed of what they were able to create in the 80s and 90s. Game creators of today only have economic, creative and talent limitations. Programmers of yesteryear had the same limitations and they were forced to use those and push them into technology as advanced as our current clock radios.
@kingjoe3rd
@kingjoe3rd 2 жыл бұрын
That's one of the reasons that I really enjoy console hardware because it's cool to see developers try to squeeze and optimize for a game to look good on a system that is using hardware that was outdated when it was released. I am specifically thinking of God of War and Spider Man on the PS4 although there are many others.
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 2 жыл бұрын
Rest assure that developers on big 3D engines are also optimizing a lot. This is even more impressive then what they did back in the day. That said there are also hundreds of developers working on these engines instead of small development teams back in the day
@saxoman1
@saxoman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingjoe3rd I'd put the switch and games like Metroid Dread high up on the list of optimized modern games on limited hardware, akin to the old days!
@liaminwales
@liaminwales 2 жыл бұрын
@@FuZZbaLLbee We are in the middle ware age, the engines are optimised but not all the devs know how to use them in the best way. The unity games that Digital Foundry have spotted with in correct frame pacing thanks to a default option, one change to fix the frame pacing. I hope unity has changed that one default option.
@diodora2381
@diodora2381 2 жыл бұрын
I always see these types of comments and every time I do, I cringe, because this isn't even true. Optimization is still extremely important and developers still need to be very careful with hardware limitations, probably almost even more so now with how complex games are getting. One only need to look at Cyberpunk 2077 for what happens when you let the scope of your limitations for what hardware you're developing for get out of hand without proper optimization. This isn't some lost art. You can cherry pick examples of games running terribly in the past and games with technical wizardry just like you can do today. Think the Witcher 3 or even Doom ports to Nintendo Switch vs the dumpster fire of Balan Wonderland. You can find cool optimizations and technical wizardry in any era and I think it's a disservice to both modern and classic games to come out and just say, "They don't make em like they used to.", when that's not even true.
@Risingson2
@Risingson2 7 ай бұрын
The thing I admire the most of Another World is how Chahi didn't only show he was a great programmer, but also a great artist. He had an incredible eye for composition here.
@bananachild1936
@bananachild1936 2 жыл бұрын
'Another World' never ceases to amaze me even to this day. This and 'Flashback'. The rotoscoped animations and beautifully storyboarded cinematic cutscenes were very fluid and mindblowing considering the hardware that it was made on. And all of it was fully rendered in-engine and in real-time too! None of those pre-rendered FMV rubbish. There was just no other game like it at the time. It was quite literally, 'Out Of This World'.
@vespasian606
@vespasian606 2 жыл бұрын
I struggled with it. We had a higher tolerance for dificulty levels back then but most games had enough in the interface and documentation to guide you through. Not with this game. For me it fell between two stools. Not really an adventure game but not an action game either. I replayed it after I completed Flashback and I was a bit more appreciative second time round. Thanks to MVG for this detailed breakdown. I had no idea of it's underlying brilliance.
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 2 жыл бұрын
Flashback bores me to tears these days but it was my favorite game for a long time back in the day. I actually beat the game at some point and I almost never finish anything
@elzariantlp4594
@elzariantlp4594 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice story. I was impressed by this game when I played it in the 90'. In France, I remember talking with my friends in high school about the AGNUS / FAT AGNUS chipset that made that game possible... without knowing anything about it, except its funny name. Souvenirs, souvenirs !!!
@noop9k
@noop9k 2 жыл бұрын
The game worked mostly the same on PC and ST though
@DrBagPhD
@DrBagPhD 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 man, I remember seeing 3D graphics like that at the time and how much it blew my mind. You were looking at the start of an absolute *game changer* and you knew it. Only time I've had that feeling since was trying modern VR for the first time.
@SabretoothBarnacle
@SabretoothBarnacle 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up before I've even watched it. The intro to Another World was a thing to behold back in the day. I couldn't believe they got all of that animation and the game on one disk. EDIT: My brain cells are failing me, it was indeed across two disks on the Amiga.
@Varangian_af_Scaniae
@Varangian_af_Scaniae 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you thumb up before you watch the video? In what way does that help Dimitris make good videos?
@jajabinx35
@jajabinx35 2 жыл бұрын
Although I swear the intro scene was on one floppy and to play the game you had to switch to the next floppy.... At least that how it was on the Atari ST.....
@Varangian_af_Scaniae
@Varangian_af_Scaniae 2 жыл бұрын
@@jajabinx35 At the time that intro was worth the loading time.:)
@kingjoe3rd
@kingjoe3rd 2 жыл бұрын
MVG always means quality. It is one of those few channels that I can say that about.
@StevenOBrien
@StevenOBrien 2 жыл бұрын
"Thumbs up before I've even watched it." simp /s
@BirthFromFire
@BirthFromFire 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite DOS games (Didn't own an Amiga back in the day). Still playing it today! Nice video! Thank you
@nizm0man
@nizm0man 2 жыл бұрын
Have you finished it? Hehe
@BirthFromFire
@BirthFromFire 2 жыл бұрын
@@nizm0man at that time took me a week I think 😂😂😂😂
@plumeofsmoke2871
@plumeofsmoke2871 2 жыл бұрын
Still so stylish today. Only completed this last year as I was terrible at it on the Amiga when it came out.
@chemergency
@chemergency 2 жыл бұрын
This game was so cool and ambitious, the 2D polygon style is strikingly unique and its cinematic style without any dialogue or hud elements still sets it apart from many other games today.
@iskamag
@iskamag 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say that the framebuffer trick is really smart, I'll use this in my games. Thank you for bringing it up.
@Herr.Mitternacht
@Herr.Mitternacht 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite game of all time! It was surreal playing this in the early 90s
@GenericInternetter
@GenericInternetter 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute classic, although I knew it as "Out of This World". It's hard to find a game that was so atmospheric, absolute masterclass in game design.
@thefirethefire9131
@thefirethefire9131 2 жыл бұрын
What a great way to start 2022. MVG talking about my favourite game. I can see how this game didn't age that well, particularly the controls. But it completely changed my perception of what a game could be.
@xeostube
@xeostube 2 жыл бұрын
agree totally. Looks so good, so stylish.. Could be a modern game with a minimal aesthetic. But damn it plays so poorly.
@thefirethefire9131
@thefirethefire9131 2 жыл бұрын
@@xeostube I'm fine with how it plays because I grew up with it and still play it regularly. But no doubt the newer version could do with a control redesign.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Had a copy of the French version on my Amiga. But only had that later on. First played it on the Megadrive, had been seeing it in magazines for the year before. I remember me and a friend heading out and picking this up day one! It blew us away. It still does in a way :)
@primalconvoy
@primalconvoy 2 жыл бұрын
The Amiga version was the best version. According to the wiki, it had the best sound and most crisp graphics, while both it and the Atari ST had an extra sound effect of the protagonist yelling if they used the rope swing without the beast chasing them.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@primalconvoy Interesting, never knew that! I've been missing out all these years!
@miniman3112
@miniman3112 2 жыл бұрын
Stunning art style that would still absolutely stand out today, fascinating what emerges from limitations!
@justinmohns8279
@justinmohns8279 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing what he did with so little. I'm more impressed by how his original could be even more compressed to lesser machines. I spent many hours over many rentals trying to beat this when it came out on the Super Nintendo.
@paulfrankmonkey7509
@paulfrankmonkey7509 2 жыл бұрын
My Husband and I still say "Matoomba" and pat each other's shoulder just like the first guy who helps Lester after he swings the cage and drops. We think that world means "Friend". I never did beat this game, but have a lot of great memories trying.
@N64Gamer77
@N64Gamer77 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was more "My-tso-rooba" which roughly translates to "Why stand around talking when we should be trying to escape!"
@mrballs8091
@mrballs8091 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah i thought it was Mar-krooobah
@GameBoyyearsago
@GameBoyyearsago 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Frank Monkey Your Profile Pic 😂😂🤣🤣
@mrballs8091
@mrballs8091 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameBoyyearsago HAHAHA
@GameBoyyearsago
@GameBoyyearsago 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrballs8091 😂😂😂😂
@TheGuruMeditation
@TheGuruMeditation 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always MVG! One of the top Amiga Games of all time and one of the top games games of all-time. I am loving our cameo with the genlocks. That was a great shoot and the genlock is what I used my Amiga for most back in the day. -- AmigaBill
@smarseille7422
@smarseille7422 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, when I was little and played this game, it was one of the few games that impressed me on the Amiga 500, and even to today I still do. Sometimes I miss those times and would love to go back, these days you no longer see big changes in games, and at times it feels like except for limitation on polygons, developers no longer have to really optimize to the maximum like how it was done in the past.
@smarseille7422
@smarseille7422 2 жыл бұрын
@Neb6 Only a handful I recognize so yes you can say so indeed :p should try these.
@FabledGentleman
@FabledGentleman 2 жыл бұрын
This was the glory days of the Amiga, and this game was one of the best ones ever made on the system for sure. When it comes to the fluent animations and gameplay, i think this game belongs in a trio of sorts. First one was Prince of Persia, then Another World and lastly Flashback. Those three games stood out when it came to this kind of aesthetics. And they are all great games that i played for countless hours.
@MrKelaher
@MrKelaher 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Amiga programming was challenging and fun ! So many graphics and audio tricks with the dedicated hardware. The Amiga ran some pretty high end non-game software too - I worked on a computational algebra system used by uni researchers and folks like the NSA - the Amiga was the lowest spec system it worked on, the highest end was a Cray YMP !
@martindrake37
@martindrake37 2 жыл бұрын
Was the third game I bought for the Nintendo Switch. And FINALY played through it. Loved it in the 90s, do love it nowadays! Awesome episode, Mr MVG :)
@inphanta
@inphanta 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this on the PCs we had when I was in sixth form, but I first saw it running on the Amiga and it really was a glimpse of the future. That it still holds up today says a lot.
@fffrrraannkk
@fffrrraannkk 2 жыл бұрын
This game blew my 12 year old mind on the SNES. One of the few games I rented over and over. The graphics were amazing, and something I had never seen. But the atmosphere is something I'll never forget.
@jaysonl
@jaysonl 2 жыл бұрын
That port was done by Rebecca Heineman, and she was not allowed to use ANY special mappers or enhancement chips because Interplay was so cheap!
@steveafanador6441
@steveafanador6441 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how people can program this kind of stuff back in the day.
@RetroJack
@RetroJack 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being totally blown away when this game out - thanks for taking me back to my 22yo self!
@gerboog
@gerboog 2 жыл бұрын
You must be in your 50s 👍🏽
@humanharddrive1
@humanharddrive1 Күн бұрын
this game is a core memory for me, and when i grew up a bit, i watched all the videos with eric chahi on how he made it
@darkblader06
@darkblader06 2 жыл бұрын
Dude Another World looks like one of those retro likes you see every indy studio making today and it just looks so modern .
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this game's USA release (titled "Out of This World") as a 90s kid on our PC. It had a really cool feel unlike other games, like it was achieving something technically amazing even compared to Doom/Duke3D.
@neilreilly3966
@neilreilly3966 2 жыл бұрын
they changed the name in the US because of the daytime soap opera
@AngryCalvin
@AngryCalvin 8 ай бұрын
Actually it was a sitcom. A really lame one also that nobody watched. UPN channel actually.
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 8 ай бұрын
@@AngryCalvin Google it. The game had two names.
@mamorunda881
@mamorunda881 2 жыл бұрын
Me alegra que le hayas dedicado un video a esta verdadera obra maestra, aún al día de hoy sigo escuchando de vez en cuando la música de los créditos finales.
@W0lfenstrike
@W0lfenstrike 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had that Amiga version of Dragon's Lair and also Space Ace. I never actually made it past the first screen, but I was blown away by their graphics, I also loved to simply look at their boxes and manuals. I didn't play much Amiga back then as I relied too much on my dad to start up games that used too many disks, but I freaking loved that thing, it's a shame my dad had to sell it because we were strapped on money, but he still kept most of the games and floppies, so at least they're nice for display purposes.
@Boosted0ne
@Boosted0ne 2 жыл бұрын
This game on the Amiga 500 was mind blowing BITD! It had so many disk swaps though. You literally only played 50% of the time. The rest of the time was loading and disk swaps. I started playing a little bit of the SEGA CD version and it sure feels close to what I remember on the A500.
@marshinz5696
@marshinz5696 2 жыл бұрын
This game blew my mind on Snes back in the day.
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 2 жыл бұрын
Not many mainstream outlets cover the Amiga. Thanks for digging into important games history.
@primalconvoy
@primalconvoy 2 жыл бұрын
That's because many of them are American, and they seem to think that the entire world cut their teeth in the 80s on the NES, SNES and Mega Drive, the poor, misguided fools.
@geemcd
@geemcd 2 жыл бұрын
I love that a random dude on KZbin (this is not a slight in any way, i love MVG) is mainstream outlet ❤ x
@sergeleon1163
@sergeleon1163 2 жыл бұрын
Such an iconic game, I played it back in the day on a MS-DOS PC.
@HuntedByAFreak72
@HuntedByAFreak72 2 жыл бұрын
I finished this game on my trusty Nokia with Symbian S60 OS long time ago. Man I didn't know that this game is actually a classic.
@Ochatach
@Ochatach 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool, I remember seeing it when I was a kid, never knew what it was called, the premise is probably what made Half-Life to become what it is also. Thanks for the video as always
@Pyke_
@Pyke_ 2 жыл бұрын
This game is a true masterpiece. I remember the first time I played when I was a kid. That game blew my mind. For the first time a game got my emotions just like a movie, it was special and wonderful.
@pancon5
@pancon5 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! What a game! The intro was sooooo impressive back in the day, and so was the rest of it!
@SNBgames
@SNBgames 2 жыл бұрын
Played the SNES version. Lost so many lives, got stuck a lot, but what a great game!
@bobdawkins7473
@bobdawkins7473 2 жыл бұрын
I played atari St version mainly but i did try the Snes version and noticed there's an extra part to that game, where you run jump across a pit and hang onto some (not sure what its called) cloth thing :D
@Fularu
@Fularu 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the "classic versions", the PC version of Another World is the best one because it was actually complete. It features one more level that couldn't be made in time for the Amiga and ST releases. People have back ported it to the Amiga though, but only recently.
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 2 жыл бұрын
PC ports were a bit of a gold mine in this regard. If you remade Another World in the 21st century, it wouldn't be half as relevant and would absolutely lose the particulars that made it appealing. But reiterate it a handful of years after release, and what you have in short is the opportunity to idealize it without losing anything. So there's actually a pretty good number of games that started life on Amiga but saw their finest representation on PC. This is certainly not a knock on the Amiga, as PC was absolutely not equipped to match Amiga perfectly contemporaneously. But for someone like myself, who likes reliving old classics and doesn't mind seeing them spruced up, like I said, it's a gold mine.
@Henrik_Holst
@Henrik_Holst 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't due to "couldn't be made in time", he created the extra level due to reviewers being negative that the game was to short and it was created before the DOS port was released so they could add it to that port.
@Galahadfairlight
@Galahadfairlight 2 ай бұрын
Bollocks. An adept player could get through the game in 20mins, so the publisher wanted an extra level to extend its game time. It took Eric two years to write but you really think he didn't have enough time to complete the Amiga version? Laughable
@Groaznic
@Groaznic 2 жыл бұрын
Chahi is an absolute polymath genius. No doubt. Literal sense of the word.
@dmoehling
@dmoehling 2 жыл бұрын
Never played it. Loved my Amiga! Many years later it’s amazing to get these “behind the scenes” technical looks at what hard to be done to make these games work. Love the channel MVG!
@rpeetz
@rpeetz 2 жыл бұрын
Developers now: you need a quad-core CPU, an RTX 3060 at least, 8GB of RAm and 100GB of SSD(you can do on HDD if you want loading screens to last 30 min) to play our game made using Unity.
@rorychivers8769
@rorychivers8769 2 жыл бұрын
You make a very solid point, but there would be... well... fewer games on the market if every developer had to create their own ridiculously sophisticated game engine from scratch in assembly language
@rpeetz
@rpeetz 2 жыл бұрын
@@rorychivers8769 I made the comment mostly as a joke, but my point is, nowadays the developers that do the "impossible" possible on modern hardware are getting rarer by the day, it is rare to see some coding that "wow" people, like for example quake's fast inverse sqrt. Not only on game dev, my main criticism nowadays is how bloated web became because of soydevs.
@rorychivers8769
@rorychivers8769 2 жыл бұрын
@@rpeetz Sorry, I wasn't trying to be patronizing, I do actually miss the time when games developers really did know how the machines worked on a deep and profound level. It's just sort of different now, those guys don't actually make games any more, they just make the engines that other people make the games out of. So you don't get a particular game that blows your mind with its technology, you things like the unreal 5 tech demo, or you get research paper demos or things like that. Then you wait for years for it to actually filter into a game and you're already sort of jaded. Games have lost the power to mesmerize you with their awesomeness, even though they are orders of magnitude more sophisticated than they used to be. Weird irony, heh
@acciid
@acciid 2 жыл бұрын
Off-the shelf hardware is just so cheap nowadays. I work in the professional IT industry and when I started out I was designing ASICs. Back then (late 90s) you needed a dedicated chip to do something that a modern CPU will barely break sweat over. It does make a huge difference to what can be produced because things are done in high-level languages using APIs which reduce the need for debugging or developing optimised routines. The cost of course is the resulting code is far from optimised and the system requirements are high, but do-able.
@pgraphics
@pgraphics 2 жыл бұрын
Are you enumerating the specs for Yandere Simulator?
@Dwedit
@Dwedit 2 жыл бұрын
The story of the SNES version is interesting too: Execute code directly out of *IO Registers* because that kind of memory runs faster.
@junothescarecrow
@junothescarecrow 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this game. I played it on the snes only. Loved it ever since. The whole family would laugh, and watch in amazement.
@TectonicImprov
@TectonicImprov 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can find a livestream Rebecca Heinemann did where she talked about the process of porting Another World to the SNES. She was basically blocked from using any sort of special chips or FastROM to cut on costs. Highly recommend watching it if you're a fan of Another World
@junothescarecrow
@junothescarecrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@TectonicImprov I will. Thank you for the recommendation 😃
@jaysonl
@jaysonl 2 жыл бұрын
@@TectonicImprov There's also an episode of the Retronauts podcast where Jeremy Parish interviews Rebecca.
@TectonicImprov
@TectonicImprov 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaysonl Sounds interesting, I love Jeremy Parish's work. Do you know which episode she's interviewed?
@arcaster9444
@arcaster9444 2 жыл бұрын
Man, looking at that intro even now looks amazing and well beyond its time. In fact, with the retro styles that are popular in modern games, this game seems to have aged incredibly well. Highly underrated.
@mattpuccinelli9478
@mattpuccinelli9478 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear big plans for 2022. I've been learning a lot recently watching MVG videos. Huge appreciation for this channel.
@Lilithe
@Lilithe 2 жыл бұрын
The PC demo was the first time I ever played this, then I picked up a used CD copy of it. I still have that CD copy (and the box maybe?)
@MotoringBoxTV
@MotoringBoxTV 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this game when I was 9 and it scared the heck out of me. The first few screens.. the tentacles in the pool got me, and somehow I soldiered on until a slug killed me. And then the beast... I ran to my mum telling her we had to return the game hahaha. Yes I suppose I had a sheltered upbringing early on, I purchased it a few years later and finished it - awesome game.
@EBCHILL2
@EBCHILL2 2 жыл бұрын
Played this on the 3D0 back in the day, great video.
@bedwablackburn
@bedwablackburn 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the New Year, and thank you for everything you do!
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын
If you're thinking about trying this out, be aware that it is VERY trial-and-error based. It will kill you mercilessly, until you work out the exact right sequence of actions to take. (You can see the Dragon's Lair influence there.) That's why I'd recommend a modern version of the game: newer editions include more checkpoints. This makes it substantially easier, by reducing time spent re-doing the same screens over and over.
@zoezebra4013
@zoezebra4013 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is wrong with that. Back in the days the games were like this, one mistake and you had to go back and repeat until you succeeded. Often you could enter codes to get you back to the start of the level. In flashback there were special savepoint boots you could use, but forget about saving state at your will like it is today. To feel the spirit of a game I always recommend to check original and let it practice perseverance in you rather then fast finish
@phj9894
@phj9894 2 жыл бұрын
Since this game is very short,(only half an hour to finish) it's natural to make the game trial and error based to increase playtime.
@thewindthatblows
@thewindthatblows 2 жыл бұрын
@@phj9894 And also it has infinite continues, other games would just boot you up to the title screen if you died enough times
@SadoSir
@SadoSir 2 жыл бұрын
This is still incredible and was sensational when it released. I played it and finished it when it came out, but it was really hard with the clunky controls and no hints as to what to do. But I loved it and still do. Played it on PS4 when it got available there and smiled through the whole experience 😀 Thank you for giving more insight to this game MVG!
@Asobitech
@Asobitech 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. Great stuff as always. A legendary game, and a technical marvel.
@LorenHelgeson
@LorenHelgeson 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. One of my personal favorite games. A prime example of immersive atmosphere and telling a game's story with no understandable dialogue, no interface clutter, and a very striking art style.
@itsthem5699
@itsthem5699 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing game, played a Dreamcast homebrew port.
@AmartharDrakestone
@AmartharDrakestone 2 жыл бұрын
5:26 "Chahi would make clever use of the co-proccessor found on the Amiga, known as the blitter." No, the co-processor was known as Agnus. The blitter was just one of its components, and not even the main one.
@HewaSaleem
@HewaSaleem 2 жыл бұрын
A very well documented and educational video. Thank you for your effort MVG.
@T.O.A.D.U.K
@T.O.A.D.U.K 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great insights provided. Thanks to the sources for their efforts.
@plutoniumshore
@plutoniumshore 2 жыл бұрын
As infuriating as this game was....I was mesmerized by it.
@jeffschaap
@jeffschaap 2 жыл бұрын
Have always been fascinated by this game and loved the deep dive on it. Thanks for producing great content!
@ryangosling6249
@ryangosling6249 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode! Love this game and it was really fascinating to learn a bit how it was made!
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this. My top 10 most influential experiences.
@kwakeham
@kwakeham 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your content that goes into the technical and how they did it.
@aWOLtrooper
@aWOLtrooper 2 жыл бұрын
Really love these tech breakdowns, you're up there with Ahoy when it comes to making mundane topics exceptionally digestible.
@rafaelraad555
@rafaelraad555 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the first I played another world. I had an Amiga 500 at the time and I was completely absorbed by the game. My mind would capture the graphics and atmosphere and I would leave the game to do other things completely day dreaming about what I had experienced in the game. Great memories. Thank you for bringing us excellent content as always.
@jonnowocky8179
@jonnowocky8179 7 ай бұрын
That Black Lotus demo scene video and track are so sick, had them saved forever
@Bruno-gs8rd
@Bruno-gs8rd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for creating this video. Another World is truly special
@teofilled
@teofilled 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, thanks for sharing! Have a great start into 2022!
@montenague
@montenague 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video man, lots of memories flooding back 😎
@Heavenira
@Heavenira 2 жыл бұрын
This has blown me away. Never heard of this game and now I am continuously revisiting some of its shots after this video!
@Alex-gi7sm
@Alex-gi7sm 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing background knowledge. As always. Thanks!
@remka2000
@remka2000 2 жыл бұрын
Éric Chahi is not just a genius developper, he is also a super nice human being.
@peruxD1000
@peruxD1000 2 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks for making it!
@Jaspa42
@Jaspa42 2 жыл бұрын
Another quality video. A cracking start to 2022 ;)
@tekk9995
@tekk9995 2 жыл бұрын
Always nice - some Amiga lovin' :) Have a great 2022 MVG
@Metaphor9696
@Metaphor9696 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy, this is my favorite game of all time and your videos are always awesome. Happy New Year MVG!
@Alex-gi7sm
@Alex-gi7sm 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing background knowldege. As always. Thanks!
@ColbyPerry
@ColbyPerry 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this game on the Amiga 500 in my childhood, great memories, great work on this video.
@Ixapter
@Ixapter 2 жыл бұрын
Truly fascinating! I actually rented and played it on both the SNES and Genesis, but I was never able to finish it. All I do know is that it was like nothing I ever played before it. Happy 30th anniversary, Another World!
@osgrov
@osgrov 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, a great video MVG. :) I remember playing it back in 1991, I bought it on release. I was completely blown away, this was just a brand new experience. Amazing game, glad to see it again.
@Dhamerian
@Dhamerian 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year mate, great to open the first monday of 2022 with your vids!
@alexanderpuschacher6512
@alexanderpuschacher6512 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Modern Vintage Gamer, excellent review.
@taggounet
@taggounet 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see some amiga love :) happy new year!
@PyronsLair
@PyronsLair 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing episode, nice to learn a bit more about these tricks on amiga. I wish you the best in 2022!
@kutsalkaanbilgin
@kutsalkaanbilgin 2 жыл бұрын
it's an amazing episode, and the links are a gem...thanks so much!
@nathanhaines1721
@nathanhaines1721 2 жыл бұрын
This was the first computer game I played that got me stoked about computer games. Played point and click, Wolfenstein, apogee, and puzzle games. This game was a gem. Eric Chahi was beyond brilliant and every bit of this game was a masterpiece. The cinemas, the meager hardware requirements, the puzzles. Everything legendary. Heart of the alien and flashback was nice, but this was a magnum opus.
@MarcuStar745XD
@MarcuStar745XD 2 жыл бұрын
Great history class you gave us. I've always looked at Another World on many places and never actually care, but this video got me interested into trying it
@thegoodlife167
@thegoodlife167 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing breakdown, nice work !
@daveruda
@daveruda 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad this game still is talked about 30 years later. Its atmosphere is just perfectly captured in that cool cinematic opening. And I agree that the Amiga version was the complete package. The music and sfx in have an unique flavor on that machine.
@Idiotatwork
@Idiotatwork 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this on the amiga...still can remember pretty much the entire game 25 yrs after I last played it....brilliant..someone recreated the whole intro in live action a few yrs back
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