The Story of Prophet Velen (and the Draenei) [Lore]

[@tachikoma747]

Anyone else feel really sad for the Draenei in the Warcraft movie? Such a powerful race and all we see of them is an afterthought, tortured and abused at the hands of Gul'dan.

[@0hvist]

to be fair, the Draenei weren't supposed to be the focus of the film that was about the First War which was between the Orcs and the Humans. Though I absolutely agree with your sentiment.

[@Jackie89000]

Same, I wanted to see Draenei Paladins cracking some skulls with their maces.

[@ashameimaru]

That whole thing made me sad (and ticked off in a way)

[@bluelick7578]

Kill'jeaden think : I'll pursui Velen even if it takes a thousand years... (now 25 000 years later) GODDAMNIT WE STILL CANT GET TO HIM!!!

[@Shabboi]

It's like Team Rocket trying to get Pikachu

[@Terenin]

Velen to Kil'jaden: "Git guud, scrub." X3

[@Wesley-ri7ok]

I wish we could play male draenei that look more like Velen

[@jinx17]

Hell yeah. That'd be pretty awesome.

[@zezaway]

Ye we need that beard

[@AntonDeMorgan]

You can return now. We have lightforged draenei

[@lolosh99]

George Burner but still we dont have Velen’s physique or beautiful beard.

[@micahskaret]

@@lolosh99 We can get purple ones now in Shadowlands

[@JediJakeJones]

I hope I'm not the only one who checked their Steam at 11:18...

[@shadeyisplebsbitch6526]

^^ So true. :P

[@Gh0StF1sHy]

Just as effective; even after 5 years.

[@drivn4895]

xD

[@lunarath1]

@@Gh0StF1sHy Just want to confirm that it still made me check after 10 years.

[@thatguyfromrezero5846]

I had a double-take

[@Doronsmovies]

Just as a side note. The Draenei didn't really come to Draenor 200 years ago I believe it is mentioned that way in the Rise of the Horde but that is not cannon. They were there for thousands of years it is said that they burried their dead in the Auchindoun for a few millenia.

[@Nobbel87]

Ow yeah good catch! Wonder if Auchindoun was a space ship or part of Draenor with a conflicting time thingy...

[@Doronsmovies]

Nobbel87 Tbh I think it is actually built by them. But the main reason I think that is is more than a few hundred years is that it just kind of doesn't sound right. As they built a civilization there and cities and so much happened and when you look at the 25k years scale it just seems meaningless.

[@TheAnimefan112]

Doronsmovies The draenei needed Auchindoun for a good reason. Imagine if one of the draenei turns evil (a thief, murderer or whatever) and he is killed in combat/executed/dies. His spirit would probably go tell the burning legion where the Draenei are. They needed to contain the spirits of their dead so they could betray them.

[@Logan800]

NERD

[@henrypickett6271]

+Doronsmovies Like he said, a lot of BC lore has been retconned over the years; that might just be one of those instances.

[@jamesweiss1746]

So Velen prayed and got the Chaos Emeralds?

[@pixelthis950]

James Weiss lmao

[@tangbein]

Lol, noticed that similarity too.

[@MrErundor]

I love the Draeneis sooooo much, they're so original and have such an awesome lore!

[@Nobbel87]

Naaru and Draenei crashed on Draenor 200 years ago. Naaru was sick, started to suck up the souls of the deperated. He befriended the spirits of the orcs and influenced the shamans of the orcs to take care of him (bring water and such). This made the place very sacred to them. Many years later KJ came and Velen told them that their sacred place, was actually a spaceship with a naaru inside. They did not like that. Compare it to your enemy telling you your god is not your god.

[@TattThunder]

This video is definitely due for a redo or update nobbel, I'm so excited to see you cover what's happened to them after this

[@1486345]

For the love of lore people!! Our Velen is not dead! The alternate Draenor version of Velen is dead! Please stop crying that this is no longer relevant since he's dead, he's not!!!

[@kasper7574]

i wish he was dead...

[@Nobbel87]

It's unknown what happened to her! She could be dead, she could be waiting for her turn in the story.

[@KarsuneGaming]

you tell the stories very well and they are easy to follow. it is always good to listen to the lore to fill in pieces that you never knew about.

[@Nobbel87]

Velen goes for the Naaru, humans believe it's from a different source. It's speculated that both pull their holy powers from the same source.

[@markosz22]

Oh boy, Anduin did had some developement.

[@craigmillerer]

Perfect timing on the upload, was just looking for something to watch before heading off to bed. Thanks you Nobbel!

[@wolfgangreimers7328]

im impressed,i didnt knew anything about the story, now i found you on youtube and i really enjoy watching, Thanks a lot for this!

[@Miyao05]

Want to let you know this video is part of WowWiki! :D Keep up the awesome lore videos, it makes me super happy to watch them.

[@Nobbel87]

He was and to your first question, the Burning Legion is on a Burning Crusade to Burn the universe.

[@MrJustinArt]

Love the lore videos! I can't wait for Velen's vision to unfold in-game.

[@zlvesta]

IM NOT EVEN KIDDING. these videos are greatly well done, and i love them to death. thankyou so much for taking the time to do this, keep up the good work Nobbel

[@AlexTClark]

I have always been super interested in Warcraft lore, this series is probably the best source to keep myself informed, thank you!

[@Crendandor]

you have the best lore videos ive ever seen on youtube. very through, and well spoken. LOVE these vids

[@Malachiel]

I like how you work pictures and game footage into your videos. It makes it much easier to follow :)

[@Black14825]

Only Nobbel can make me watch a 20min video without pause.

[@jonoldham9877]

10 years ago?!? How did I not find these videos? This seems like it came out in 2024. Great quality.

[@Nescant]

I haven't played WOW since BC but the lore information you provide sir is most probably the best in out there. I want to go back to WOW just to follow up on the lore but your videos are very well detailed. Thank you so much for the love and hard work you put in these videos. I am always excited for the next lore video.

[@JustAnotherGuy1991]

Man you always make EPIC videos, when you were reading the story of Velen i started having the shivers :P

[@SpectacularRed]

I was waiting for this and you made it :). Thank you so much Nobble

[@LeeAndrewVideos]

Thank you so much for this video, finally for the first time after 6 years of WoW do I finally understand the bigger picture / story. Fantastic!

[@Ashkankoushesh]

You are too good mate. ur way of explaining makes it really interesting. I have read all the novels and watched some of ur videos. Really good. specially with the picture/ ingame video support. Amazing . Keep it up bro :)

[@EnigmaticParadigm]

All of your videos are amazingly well done and I look forward to each new one. Thanks for taking the time to share your gift with others.

[@andy007851]

Thanks for creating these videos. I have no more time to play WoW because of work. Its nice to keep up with the lore just watching these videos. Please create more! thanks!

[@banansplitten2k]

Hey Nobbel. I recently subscribed to you, and thanks to you I have seen 50 of your videos in a couple of days and gotten totally into the WoW lore xD. Thanks man, LOVE your videos. Keep up the good work! Cant wait for more videos from you. You deserve WAY more attention from the WoW community. Best regards Jaina for warchief

[@IBrUUkI]

The one lore video I was looking forward too the most :)

[@Nobbel87]

He was a guardian, which places him above the realm of normal humans. He didn't take action himself because he wanted to teach the world that the guardians were no longer needed. That we could take care of our world without them. He probably didn't warn Illidan because even Illidan his downfall was part of the ways things should be. It's the same as why didn't we stop Arthas in the CoT, you change one element and it all crumbles down.

[@orshtainheart8951]

how could blizzard hate that you read their nobbels,the lore is already awesome you only explain it and for that reason im sure some subscribers already bought some nobbels,keep up the good work as aways great lore video.

[@mbates0509]

Dude I think your stuff is so well done you made me love this game again

[@Alterthemind]

Nobbel has a new lore video? My day just greatly improved.

[@Nobbel87]

The humans their source for the light was a religious one at first. Later they slowly shifted this to a conviction. If you believe, the light will answer. I think Velen is the most powerfull priest on Azeroth.

[@AtomicRayden]

Hey Nobbel. I love your videos, especially your lore videos are fantastic! I also find your voice extremely calming, which is why i watch almost all of your vids, eventhough your let's plays arent too interesting for me content wise (because i know most of the games too well). Continue with your awesome work!

[@SirCowdog]

It cracks me up to hear Velen's vision about everyone flying, and how it contrasts with how much Blizzard keeps trying to get rid of flight in the game.

[@Executus300]

So Nobundo can get a class change but I can't? Bull.

[@carlsagebrant7943]

Keep up the good work! Love all your Lore videos, makes me wanna get more and more into the diffrent aspects of the game and really "take time" and redo zones and read the questlines etc! Thanks alot!

[@Krattosser]

U are teh boss man,all those lore vids are pure win,keep `em coming!

[@mikeykm1993]

Awesome video :D ive seen 2 or 3 of your lore videos and enjoyed them all. You've earned yourself a sub :)

[@chinogendrano3755]

Just wanted to say that you are doing a great job in doing your lore videos. I only read the books, and do not know much lore from the world of warcraft itself, it is good how you merge lore from the books and from the game.

[@Nobbel87]

Like Adam Boyd said, they had no choice. They had to flee or join the Burning Legion, death was not an option. The damnation of the orcs is not just on the shoulders of the Draenei or Kil'jaeden. The orcs themselves played a big part in it.

[@Vixantonia]

yay! amazing video and the one I wished you would make

[@quatrio04]

thanks for making this video - i was kinda hoping for it earlier :)

[@MrErikwags]

LOVE all your videos man, keep up the awesome work! P.S a little 5 or so minute video on blood elves would be awesome. I'm always confused on the difference between blood elves and high elves. Thanks!

[@ScoaladeMasajSerenity]

Hey nobble. I've watched some videos already and then i subscribed coz you really doing a great job here. I've been playin wow for a long time and whether or not i missed any lore from the game is always worthwhile to listen and enjoy again. Just wanna add: if one of the channel's main goal is wow lore i'd love if you'd keep doing it. I've seen many youtubers set to deliver wow content only to stray apart after a good while. If you are dedicated enough, we'll all appreciate it. Looking forward.

[@nauman506]

Thank you very much for Lore it never gets OLD I LOVE YOUR LORE AND THE COMMENTARY IS SOO SOOTHING AND INTERESTING ;D

[@bbuschner]

I really enjoy these lore videos. Thank you for making them.

[@HNIN1973]

That's a great idea bromo, I don't think anyone's made a video like that yet, not that I know of anyways. Perhaps he can also throw in how the characters aging differentiate from one another. It'd be fun to watch, and hopefully it helps homeboy out with lots more views. Haha

[@gustafkarlsson2824]

Thank you for your vids they are SOOOO well done and I love that you put time in to them :DD

[@aziznin]

one of the most enjoyable lores

[@GomezKrew]

Your videos are great! I really enjoy watching them. Thanks for taking the time to research and post. I'm looking forward to the next one.

[@managust]

Your videos are so good they deserve millions of views , I guess not a lot of people are interested in wow lore.

[@Nobbel87]

It's possible, the first paladins of the silver hand were both priests and warriors. He has his fathers background, he has Velen his teachings...add maybe a dash of Turalyon his paladin training and you get one bad ass paladin.

[@TheHonzauhlik]

Your story telling? Perfect. Keep it on Nobbel!! We want more details about our beloved fantasy world! x)

[@Sanne78]

quite enjoyable :) it's videos like this that make me think about what I'm actually doing in game. Like visiting The Sunwell Plateau. Making sense (in my lil' ol' mind) about the Draenei is a hard task at times. Your thoughts and videos make it easier :)

[@oldmanyama]

Okay NOW I'm excited for the next xpac. Thank you for the back story!

[@laing302]

When Nobundo came up in this video I was really happy. That short story was really awesome :)

[@Freak3955]

Alright, thank you very much for your answers on my questions, i really appreciate it. You´re really awesome and i love your vids about Warcraft lore, and also your lets plays. Keep up the awesome work and cya in your next video :D

[@srenandersen8782]

Great video. Love your accent mate ;) Actually gave the story that epic feel it deserves. I think/hope we'll see much more of the Draenei in the next expansion, mainly because i think we'll see the Legion returning, while we're busy fighting the Old Gods (and eachother). Maybe we even get to actually kill Kil'jaeden this time around. Love the lore vids - please make more ;)

[@Nobbel87]

The open who made the portal was Medivh with Sargeras inside of him. He got killed and later resurrected by his mother. Then he became Medivh the prophet warning the world about the BL.

[@iOmniphobia]

Watching this as I'm wandering Argus, and fighting Kil'jaeden. This video helped me understand the whole story alot better. Well done. 👍

[@Nobbel87]

Been searching a bit, but I can't find any lore behind him. What I did find was a post on WoWhead: "So apparently Tseric wasn't fired, they trapped him in the game." Searched for Tseric on Wowiki and he was a former CM, his avatar was this titan. Bit of a story as to why he quit being a CM, but it's possible that this npc is an homage to him.

[@Nobbel87]

You mean the vision Velen has about the army of light vs the dark? That's in his short story found on the WoW website (see description). The story doesn't leave much doubt about Anduin being the one to lead the army, but the real confirmation will be when this battle takes place.

[@adele4172]

Honestly, (I am going to get sappy here) this video honestly made me change my mind about the Draenei. I know this video is older, so there may (probably is) whole new lore for them what with Legion expansion out now But I used to think they were just weird space goats with cool hair tentacle hair things, I thought their lore was confusing based on what I was learning in game. But this video really helped me understand a lot. So thank you. They are now the only chance Blizzard will ever have of making me try Alliance :P so again, I appreciate it

[@richardm.garciajr.9930]

Thanks for making these videos, It is helping me understand the Draenei

[@Nobbel87]

I don't think so, atleast to my knowledge none have ever evolved back. There is a questline in Swamp of Sorrows where Velen shows up and explains that the light forsakes no one, despite what the Broken think.

[@Nobbel87]

The Chronolords served Murozond, the evil form of Nozdormu who in a different time period was tricked by the old gods to abuse his powers and escape his own death which corrupted him and turned him evil. Their intention was to disturb the timewaves, possibly opening ways of Old Gods to rule or the death of us all. I think they can take several paths with Bolvar his story, one is a new LK.

[@beastmaster0934]

Dude, that vision Velen had sounds fucking awesome. Imagine if that was a cinematic, it’d be the among the greatest cinematic in the history of WoW.

[@TheSimhook]

As always, great video, brodin!

[@JohnpRayer]

This is imposible amazing.... Let the light be with you Nobbel

[@darkshademarin6930]

keep up the great work nobbel love your lore stories a lot thank for the upload

[@orkoverend4331]

11:19 I thought I got a steam notification took me a min to figure out its yours in the video lol

[@Nobbel87]

I think it's more to create a cliffhanger. Don't you want to find out now what happens next? I know I do :p I think the Alliance between Illidan and the Naga was beause they shared a common goal. Naga got to kill a bunch of night elves, Illidan got to do his thing.

[@khanjacob]

just wanna say that i though i knew warcraft history well. boy was i wrong i thank you sir. watching your lore is like watching a series its awesome! thank you

[@Nobbel87]

That's from Velen his short story which you can read for free on the WoW website (link in the description). The shadow is what you want to make of it. I got the feeling that this was a big final battle against Sargeras, but it could be something entirely different.

[@Kurok9129]

Been waiting for this

[@Matthew-ic2wb]

Goddamnit this is so interesting , I love you're story telling!

[@happywheeler4268]

Shouldn't Velen be more powerful than Malfurion? I mean he is definitely more experienced.

[@zorta3163]

Damn :) awesome channel I never get tired of watching your videos always looking for and waiting for more :) , telling all my friends bout your channel xD keep it up :) btw can you tell us the story behind gnomes or nightelfs?

[@garethllewellyn4252]

Awesome video. Please do more lore storey videos, perhaps one detailing all lore major events chronologically if you date tale on the challenge, of course in brief.

[@trafalgart935]

Thank you so much for making your Videos! You are just awesome! :D

[@ylluminarious151]

Thanks for making this video. The Draenei are my favorite race and I really enjoyed watching this.

[@trikxty]

I've been hoping for this lore for a very very long time now. I'm so glad you finally got the inkling to do it. No one has been Velen yet to my knowledge. As always, I'm extremely impressed with your work and dedication. However, could we see a Dwarf lore or a character like Sister Benedron? (A couple short vids?)

[@milosdjurasinovic841]

Finally normal drenai lore . Your the best :D

[@Nobbel87]

Did you ask this question on ask fm? If not, someone else did...going to cover it in saturdays Q & A!

[@Nobbel87]

haha I have a word document with requests, about 29 pages now. Wish I had a pretty schedule like that!

[@ghostsheepy.]

Yo pin these comments

[@j0hn1Walk3r]

Nice storry,enjoyed it ! R u having any plans of making a story about Sylvanas aswel i read the whole wiki about her but i think if you make a video it will be far more interesting :)

[@zachariebolduc7931]

Hey Nobbel! Their is a an interview that jesse cox did with Dave Kosak the lead quest designer in wow. I'm sure you'll be interested :P. Keep up the good work!

[@94Lich]

I just love your videos Nobbel, keep it up :)

[@NickSutphin]

Thank you so much! i just sent in a question asking about the draeneis on your ask.fm page the other day! thank you!

[@warrhind]

Thanks Nobbel, for answering my request

[@Nobbel87]

He could be a lot older then that. Even back then he was already very old for his peoples standards.

[@brianpaul5691]

Honestly I think you wouldn't be nearly as popular or cool if you didn't have your awesome accent XD I love your lore video's!

[@TheZardark]

Thank you for this story it was really amazing!! I never knew that draenei's had such a big lore :-)

[@Eriko94]

Great Vid Nobbel keep em coming! :D