Nobbel if you visit Darkshore after the Burning of Teldrassil and cross the river next to Lor'danel you can see the (I assume) last of the Darnassian defenders trying to protect civilians that were left behind, so it makes sense to say that some of the Wildhammers and some of the Horde troops are still fighting over whoever is left on Darkshore.
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
Yeah that really makes it seem like Sylvanas is getting ready to take night elf territory for the Forsaken since they are kind of homeless now
@araposkulo6 жыл бұрын
what do you mean "getting read" ? She already got all of the NE territories. :D
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
No sylvanas pushed right to teldrassil while the army went south to silithus. so the kaldorei army is still on the continent. She went through ashenvale-Darkshore-Teldrassil that means Felwood/Moonglade/Winterspring/Feralas/Desolace/Stonetalon/Mt hyjal all have night elves untouched.
@araposkulo6 жыл бұрын
good point, I forgot about that :o
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened with undercity but its completly surrounded instead of the top/left of the continent. It will be way harder to purge the Kaldorei from Kalimdor weras the alliance can round up the forsaken alot easier since they are in a more centralised location and more of them died in the battle for undercity comparatively. If Genn doesnt send his worgen to retake Gilneas then move into silverpine hes an idiot. Its the best opprotunity were the forsaken wont interfere. The wildhammer can move into arathi while the Alterac Dwarves move into hilsbrad and together the dwarves could meet up with the worgen and mop up the rest in silverpine. The western and eastern plaguelands would allow forsaken to escape to Quel thalas but the paladin order and the Alliance strongholds would allow the humans to utilize that location for the Forsaken purge of eastern kingdoms. The horde hower wont be able to utilize the tauren in a racial purge sylvanas had to hide teldrassil operation from baine by sending him to silithus. The Sindorei and Nightborne dont seem like they hate the night elves enough to join in a racial genocide either since with the long lifespans its like killing your second to 3rd cousins. So that leaves her with Orcs, Goblin, Forsaken, Troll. The maghar leader gave enough emphasis on honour that i think she will follow saurfangs lead and not do a racial purge (she knows her people did it in this timeline with the draenei and almost did it in her own) So i would take Orcs off the list as well. I dont see the Goblins-Forsaken (who just got hit hard)-Darkspear/Zandalari Forces succesfully taking out the Kaldorei army especially now that the alliance is re-establishing its foothold in the barrens and checking out if theramore is viable. Since the Horde was the clear aggresser the entire Alliance is united weras the Horde is completely divided. Unless that changes i dont see the Horde faring well this expansion.
@billmarion57964 жыл бұрын
The Fire Elemental quest is probably the most satisfying thing I've done in WoW in a while.
@Kristian.B.Kristiansen6 жыл бұрын
it is a little funny, to hear two old veterans talk about their many wars, and then remember, that Alleria Windrunner is a commander of a 1000 years of war, and she is standing right there beside them. In her eyes, they must seem positively green.
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
Isent that how every night elf from pre WC3 feels? Also every Draenei? and heck even alleria hased to be used to the age difference being around the humans for so long. Like even if turalyon spent that 1000 years with her she still has the 200 or so years from before WC2 to hold over his head. Re
@matt58426 жыл бұрын
Those conversations between Wyrmblade and Shaw are fascinating.
@BlackHawk46986 жыл бұрын
Wyrmbane's backstory as a knight who was dubious of priestly skills but later became a paladin, is a nice little nod to Warcraft 2, where one of your troop types is the Knight that can be upgraded to a Paladin.
@swig99316 жыл бұрын
how long is "PRINCE" Anduin gonna be a Prince to you??? his title is King of Stormwind lol
@Kasphs956 жыл бұрын
Until the king is confirmed dead?
@ricardomilos106 жыл бұрын
Someone NotKnown did you played the last expansion? LOL
@Nuuccii926 жыл бұрын
He is the HIGH KING of the Alliance and King of Stormwind second. Just like who Sylvanas is Warchief first and Banshee Queen second - or so it should be.
@Nuuccii926 жыл бұрын
Yeah em... Varian is 100% dead he blew up and we seen him blow up
@Kasphs956 жыл бұрын
Nope... my memory may be a bit fuzzy :) going to look it up.. nvm me then xD
@aohige6 жыл бұрын
I like how much spotlight Shaw has been getting the past two expansions, but I want more on his right-hand man, the ALLIANCE GOBLIN, Renzik "the Shiv". I want more stories about him, Blizz!
@richardm.garciajr.99306 жыл бұрын
Another great story told. Don't know how you do it but thanks again for all you do Nobbel
@williamredwine7225 жыл бұрын
Hey man. I think you’re amazing. Thanks for all these lore videos.
@menotyu95766 жыл бұрын
7:26 single most satisfying quest in a long time
@user-lydia6986 жыл бұрын
Its Shaw...Mathias Shaw...
@SpammytheHedgehog6 жыл бұрын
Anduin Wrynn : Stand as One! FOR THE ALLIANCE!!!!!!!
@klartextgebliebenerberberf7376 жыл бұрын
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
@onalith6 жыл бұрын
When was the last time the alliance has shown any racial divergence? They indeed stand as one, behind the Wrynn.
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
Their was that time they had a dragon in the throne room ;) and another almost married Calia menethil. Would be a good time to do a political marriage anduin maybe to Tess Greymane, or a Night Elf to keep the Kaldorei bond with the alliance strong in these trying times for Azeroth.
@onalith6 жыл бұрын
That's my point. People say those are trying times, but nothing has changed in the alliance leaders relationships toward each others (at least as shown in game). It was friendship and rainbows before, it's friendship, rainbows and vengeance now. On the Horde side their was 3 leader switch up, 1 leader killed by another one, 1 attempt of an entire race at leaving the horde, multiple open rebellions, and the war initiated by Sylvanas during BfA. I understand player of the alliance saying they're always on the defensive, but as a Horde player, being always pictured as the unstable ones is tiresome.
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
Well i doubt the Kaldorei are going to appreciate the fact that anduins ships did not arrive in time to help. His failure at undercity only turned around by suprise jaina will not help his cause. Moira and the dark Irons respected Varians strength and tactical mind. Muradin has had enough of boy prince who think they know best. Falstad has no reason to have a real opinion on him yet expect think him too young. Tyrande should be pretty mad at Anduin. If Anduin doesn't help Genn take Gilneas now when its the best opprotunity Genn should turn on him and start making plans behind his back with Tyrande to go extremist on the Forsaken and by proxy the rest of the Horde. It feels Velens main part in anything is over with the legion done so hes pobably going to be a Anduin yes man because hes of the light. Mekkatorque and the Gnomes have a meritocracy so he should think Anduin doesnt merit high king status. I would argue that jaina's level of trust from the other members of the alliance has changed from love her in WC3-Wrath to alot thought she went horde hate crazy then she mellowed out and found herself and the alliance loves her again. And when Varian returned in Wrath their was a little bit of friction with the other factions being ordered and not a democracy like the alliance was in Vanilla-BC (i know it wasn't really but with anduins age the other alliance races didnt follow his orders. it wasn't until Varian returned that their was a leader the alliance as a whole followed unequivocally I agree though based on seniority Tyrande or Mekkatorque should be Highking/Queen of the alliance following varians death since both were Vanilla faction leaders, its why even though i dont like sylvanas it was her turn for leadership the other 3 horde leaders with seniority are Dead/Dead/Retired depressed Dad.
@HiddenEvilStudios6 жыл бұрын
You know, I really wish we could PLAY all these little campaign missions instead of sending out followers. Same problem I've had with the mission table since Warlords. Let ME do stuff, not my followers! Also, according to that Lor'danel evacuation mission: "A NIGHT ELF MADE IT TO THE WATER!"
@ZrodyApo6 жыл бұрын
Most of the table missions takes place in zones that will be warfronts, so it must be a sort of preparation for that
@Luthies6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've heard it makes sense for a faction to rely all of it's war efforts on a single person...
@richardcsont616 жыл бұрын
I get upset by the sheer sight of "guardians" or "bodyguards" following and fighting alongside other players. Don't know why but the whole thing feels stupid to me. Back in my day only hunters, warlocks and maybe mages with specific talent points had pets.
@wymanmanderly5516 жыл бұрын
Not like the alternative to missions is actual quests/scenarios. The alternative is pretty much nothing since the first ones are much easier to make. Better to get as atleast a little bit engaged, through follower missions, in the war outside main islands then to just hear about it or read about it in a book or not see it at all.
@theguyyouhate6 жыл бұрын
i don't get why it's bad to send followers on missions. sure you wanna be everywhere at once. and i'm sure YOUR quest givers would also prefer you just stay out of it and they do everything themselves. the mission table is us being the quest givers for once.
@omaralvarado53986 жыл бұрын
10:16 “theyre simple people with SSSSSSSimple desires.” my ears! Haha
@apacalypsagon37586 жыл бұрын
I thought the reason why lothar chose turalyon out of uther and tirion was because turalyon was a lot more skeptical to how in order to win wars you need more than faith. He still belived in the Light henm was just less pious pious than his bretheren and understood how the consequence of military action.
@martincraig25646 жыл бұрын
Great video. Havnt levelled my alliance yet so worth a watch for me. Love all your videos. Also keep calling him Prince..... He is a weak king anyway. Bring back Bolvar I say. At least he had a backbone.
@endeavortabarsi51586 жыл бұрын
You're making the right call saving island expeditions for another video cause there's some pretty interesting stuff you can find in them if your fighting the right npcs.
@Nuuccii926 жыл бұрын
I wish the Goblin that you set up a base within Drustvar and the gnome in this one were the ones from the Before the War novel rather than build up two characters to just assume they're now dead cause they headed to Teldrisil =/ I know Grizick had a big fall out with Gallywix but they could of told a story where maybe Etrig stops Gallywix from killing him or something XD
@amitamaru6 жыл бұрын
Wyrmbane. Commander in many other lifetimes. You think he would have been a Hunter, if you know what I mean. Edit: Come to think of it, Wyrmbane's current relationship with Spymaster Shaw reminds me a lot of the old relationship between Morrison and Reyes.
@melvar1056 жыл бұрын
Well what do you know Wyrmbane is voiced Soldier 76 himself Fred Tatasciore.
@jeosilverninja6 жыл бұрын
I think it's interesting how Shaw seems to espouse the same beliefs as Sylvanas. Having faith that there will be a next war and a one after that, and saying he'd choose getting the job done over having honor. I like it.
@donjezza106 жыл бұрын
I always thought something similar about the behaviour of Sylvanas and Anduin: Two seemingly opposite protagonist's that share the exact same goal. Both are aware of the moral conflicts in their governments and desire to lead their fellow leaders in a mutually beneficial direction. Hell, they both have ally leaders that actively seek to drive the Alliance and Horde in the opposite directions the King and Warchief want. to oppose Their methods, however, is what makes them opposites, and by extension, makes the Alliance and Horde opposites. Anduin wants to restrain the Alliance's methods of warfare and maintain the ideal future. Sylvanas wants to expand the Horde's methods of warfare and create the ideal future. Both of them I feel are justified in how they handle their leadership of their factions. But as time goes on, it seems like Anduin's goals are decaying with time. Until you have to wonder if he is the real leader of the Alliance at all.
@vilwind35226 жыл бұрын
Capitan Conrad ? Is this Quest not reference a to "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad ? The Quest and how it plays through is similar to the book plot. I'm just wondering.
@mikaelantonkurki5 жыл бұрын
yah i noticed the same.
@toaster136666 жыл бұрын
a shoutout to Wyrmbanes voiceactor please, very well done, really liked it.
@legermuis16 жыл бұрын
'Give wrong information about the Horde moving int Silithus' LuL
@TheBrimfire6 жыл бұрын
King Anduin!^^
@Queltomen6 жыл бұрын
queen* ;p
@fumarc45016 жыл бұрын
Brimfire Dragon boy king
@Endslikecrazy6 жыл бұрын
Love how shaw questions his faith in the light, if illidan showed us one thing it is to not blindly follow something without questioning it first at the very least.
@donjezza106 жыл бұрын
A lot of the Alliance fanbase I have seen don't seem to have heard that.
@TheTournesoul6 жыл бұрын
best part of bfa:murdering those goblins, holy crap that was fun.
@tinycrownarts31455 жыл бұрын
he’s a uh he’s a king
@Alexational6 жыл бұрын
Did you check the "Stay a while and listen" part on the horde side ?
@alesiakikino49036 жыл бұрын
Umm did you say PRINCE Anduin Nobbel? Right at the begging😂
@Nobbel876 жыл бұрын
Hahah I'm still adjusting :p
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
ITs just like how an older relative refuses to accept the kid has grown up and makes them sit at the kid table at family functions until they are 23
@greyworld62426 жыл бұрын
Am I hearing kakashi’s voice from Shaw!?
@Ghoffman916 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how so many Horde mocked Jaina for being a deus ex machina. Then not long after the Horde have the troll princess summon a freaking ghost dinosaur to get their boat to safety. What do you call that? Without it they would have been captured and sent right back to the Stockades.
@lunaraurora83086 жыл бұрын
Ghoffman91 reason why there’s a Jaina-Talanji faceoff poster
@donjezza106 жыл бұрын
She was woven into the story better than Jaina was. She was a Deus Ex Machina, but a better one.
@Be_Gee6 жыл бұрын
So...I just wanna know why Anduin himself is here talking to you, but on the horde Nathanos mocks me constantly ;( I'm foresaken too!
@bindair_dundat6 жыл бұрын
All void elves get a voidy look and practically no mastery over the void, while Alleria retains her high elven look with mastery over the void.
@Necroionutwiz6 жыл бұрын
10:29 Stealth Increased by 69 backdoor
@MaximillianGreil6 жыл бұрын
Nobbel, you should do a dungeons and dragons series. I think you could craft a fantastic story. (I know it's off topic, but I would watch that series)
@itsjonesh6 жыл бұрын
Now imagine to see Crendor, Nixxiom, Nobbel and Taliesin & Evitel playing an D&D game based around WoW? I mean, table top games gives you a kind of freedom that you still can't have in eletronic games. Just imagine the possibilities and other interesting ways of diving into the lore (and even creating some amazing fan-fiction in WoW universe!)
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Nobbel branching out but i think a better first step would be Starcraft/Diablo/Overwatch since he could carry over a fair portion of his audience.
@itsjonesh6 жыл бұрын
I also really like this idea. But not limited necessarily only to Blizzard Games. He already did a run of Ocarina of Time in this channel if i'm not mistaken, so i really would like to see his storytelling skills branching to other content he's into (but i would still watch the shit out a D&D session with him & those guys).
@morbid1.6 жыл бұрын
burning alive 200 unarmed panicked goblins... hero of the alliance, the good guys.
@Truedatas6 жыл бұрын
Neurotyczny Kot they were there mining for Azerite
@Teemo65446 жыл бұрын
Goblins under military protection mining for Azerite.
@TheCorporationTShirt6 жыл бұрын
The gobbos who were burning Dark Irons alive with their tech? I mean, if anyone's the authority on burning people alive, it's the Horde.
@Grounders106 жыл бұрын
Welcome to war. Enemy infrastructure, like mines, are valid military targets. My advice, don't work at a military facility if you don't want to get killed by the enemy. (Yes this counts for the alliance as well)
@pavelchromcak73846 жыл бұрын
Wasn´t Wyrmbane like this elite lvl 70 quest giver in Outland ?
@badluckpoppy6 жыл бұрын
How did you turn Nazmir into Nashmir.
@noodlespoo6 жыл бұрын
It would be so much better if throughout the campaign you worked with different faction leaders. That's the point of the Alliance: different people working together. Vanilla lore was all over the place, but that is one thing they got right. Although Anduin is a perfect leader for the humans. A painfully generic king for a painfully generic race. Also, I don't get Mathias Shaw and SI:7 representing the "Alliance intelligence". When you have night elves and gnomes in your faction, humans really aren't the first choice for rogues and agents.
@nickathanas18986 жыл бұрын
The humans are the only faction within the Alliance that have a dedicated "cloak and dagger" organization, the gnomes have something similar, but they don't appear that much in the game
@timgersh67875 жыл бұрын
so for me my first zone was Vol'dun because i like the deserts but also the Vulpera are in that area. Its to bad they are going horde and i only play alliance
@balfanghellfire6 жыл бұрын
Spoilers: They failed to prevent the Zandalari from joining the Horde.
@balfanghellfire6 жыл бұрын
What does destroying something that can be easily be replaced have anything to do with preventing their allegiance? Also, we have the scepter and from what I heard, the body of someone who can use it fully, waiting to be resurrected as Forsaken.
@krimzonstriker75346 жыл бұрын
Prepares for the invasion of Zuldazar in the next patch actually which they stated was the plan in this war campaign.
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
So it definitly seems they are setting up the barrens warfont
@Schroble6 жыл бұрын
Poor Kor'kron guard, whats even left of them after Siege of orgrimmar? Were they all killed then because I havent seen them since, unlike 7th legion who is still very active.
@timpickens8413 жыл бұрын
hey its sly marbos long lost brother who was last seen chasing daemon through a warp portal for the lol's
@abcdgump6166 жыл бұрын
Prince anduin at the start????
@Nuuccii926 жыл бұрын
Should of been the 76th Legion ;)
@fumarc45016 жыл бұрын
Sethrak allied race confirmed for the Alliance?
@chrisshad21053 жыл бұрын
hi could some one help me please i am trying to complete the fourth war achievement i have completed the 2 that comes with it and i just need to complete old soilder but the man on boat wont give me the quest it just gives me a pvp quest against all odd quest not the quest line? any ideas if any the rep needs to be revered for the quest line to be given my azeroth rep is honoured and 7th legion is revered ? i been looking on net not getting anywhere would be very grateful if anyone could tell me where to go or what needs doing in order for me to complete the old soilder from the fourth war achievement =)
@nps864 жыл бұрын
N-64? O-93? ... ... ... *DAZ BINGOOOOO!!!!*
@iug19256 жыл бұрын
What is Nashmir?
@darthbane16296 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah Were is Aliance Honor in this ha !!!!!
@martincraig25646 жыл бұрын
The alliance actually don't have honor. When fighting a single orc (Saurfang) it takes 20 players plus NPCs and instead of giving him and honourable death they imprison him. The alliance are just racist bigots that's all there is too it really.
@nickathanas18986 жыл бұрын
It's war.The 7th doesn't fight with honor,Lord Bane.They fight to win, you of all people should be commending that
@nickathanas18986 жыл бұрын
@@martincraig2564 "The Alliance doesn't actually have honor".The crow is calling the raven black, don't you think? As for Saurfang... remind me again why did he choose to face the Alliance alone and seek an honourable death?Oh right it was because he couldn't fight for a monster like Sylvanas. Finally "racist bigots" can you give an example, the only one I can think of is with Garithos but he signs serve the current Alliance
@CrossLoader6 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud to be a member of the alliance
@kyleellis91776 жыл бұрын
It also seems like mechagnomes might come about as a allied race maybe a way to remove the corrupted bits from leper gnomes and give them mechanic prosthetics. Heck maybe the gnomes can finally get gnomeregan back and the worgen retake gilneas the night elves are going to need somewere to settle since i doubt sylvanas is going to stop with the kaldorei in stonetalon/feralas/felwood/winterspring so the could either take the forsakens lands but since its contested with humans/worgens it would be better to send them to Stranglethorn, Swamp of Sorrows or stormwind could let them have part of duskwood or maybe they can settle in Arathi if the alliance ends up claiming it during the expansion. and the trolls/goblins can build a capital on the echo islands/turn bilgewater port into a real one. The forsaken will have to find somewere to go. i guess they can move into silvermoon but i think it would be better for them to take over night elf lands maybe felwood, Darkshore/ashenvale or desolace.
@luciensaliba68636 жыл бұрын
What with the number 7??
@donjezza106 жыл бұрын
7 Circles of Hell, perhaps.
@thenecron976 жыл бұрын
a niGhT eLF mAdE it to tHe wAtER
@TheKigaMaster6 жыл бұрын
Only Horde so gotta watch this .-.
@shikab4ne5 жыл бұрын
nashmir? there's a z in there buddy
@SUScorporation6 жыл бұрын
great questline wish it was FUCKING VOICE ACTED
@jiro79906 жыл бұрын
Could you make a full version of the story of battle for azeroth.
@k2go4226 жыл бұрын
Ben je Nederlands
@razvantudor26396 жыл бұрын
The horde campgain is so much better imo
@2Siders6 жыл бұрын
Story summed up: Proudmoore family therapy
@TheTournesoul6 жыл бұрын
pretty much LOL.
@donjezza106 жыл бұрын
Not really therapy as much as propaganda since there was no mention of the horde in Jaina's mental reconstruction with her mother. Almost as if her hatred for them was deliberately maintained for a specific benefit for someone.... or something.
@TheTournesoul6 жыл бұрын
i don't get why you say that is propapanga, why would the horde know about the mental reconstruction? they are supposed to hate her and see her has an enemy. just like there is not mention at all about g'hunn in alliance side. the only thing that the horde knows is that they are going to use derek against the prooudmoores/kultiras and that's fine.
@donjezza106 жыл бұрын
I was being metaphorical. I'm implying that Jaina's psyche is deliberately being manipulated so that any guilt she would feel in her following acts would be removed, while her hatred for the horde is maintained. That is a recipe for concocting a fully fledged psychopath that Jaina had almost become several times before.
@TheTournesoul6 жыл бұрын
i am not sure if i understand, by blizzard, or by n'zoth? i mean is she goes full psycho again it would be because she embraced her new persona. I don't think that she will feel guilt or regret anymore, that was kinda the point of her arc in thros but of course, i could be wrong, we will see.
@kemyaali20566 жыл бұрын
dude you sound tired, please rest
@jesussamurai84336 жыл бұрын
Cool not even revered yet with honorbound or even have an alliance toon. Yet trash fanboys will sit here and argue how the rep system is the best thing since slice bread, and how somehow doing WQ everyday makes you "Elite, special, not lazy". Or the bigger joke is when they say WoW has always been a grind, as if before you needed to get exalted with multiple factions to play the new races.
@kemyaali20566 жыл бұрын
mathias xXx halford
@steveh82246 жыл бұрын
What accent is that I cannot tell?
@jamesevarts36 жыл бұрын
SADF
@alex576996 жыл бұрын
First
@TheRealAb2166 жыл бұрын
The story is them showing up in my yard and getting killed over and over till they just take the debuf and res at the spirit guide and hearth stone away.
@mittensfastpaw6 жыл бұрын
So in summary the Alliance cause more problems that actually help the bad guys in the lands in their quest to get back at the Horde.
@12345Granada6 жыл бұрын
uh? Where did you see that?
@dantoraomfg6 жыл бұрын
What a boring war campaign the alliance has
@otterhero62296 жыл бұрын
Wdym? Burning goblins in zuldazar was amazing, as well as all the secret sabotage missions in voldun.
@dantoraomfg6 жыл бұрын
I've done both factions war campaigns and I'm saying that the horde one is much better in my opinion.