The Strange Disappearance of Cullen Finnerty

[@MissingVoidTV]

Hey all, this one took a little longer because we've had a heatwave here in the UK and I just haven't been able to sleep at all, so that's why I look like I haven't slept in about a year - recording this was a nightmare, haha! Please do share your thoughts in regards to Cullen's disappearance

[@mosspiglet8766]

Hi Adam, thank you for the video👍 It is possible Cullen found the road to the left of your distance line and travelled it North far enough for his phone to ping, hoping to meet his family coming for him, hiding from traffic that wasn't them. Then decided better to return to the cabin because he hadn't seen them. Such a sad case.

[@fosterdan4497]

Another point I think you should have brought up, or maybe it's too delicate of a subject? Knowing his condition, knowing these episodes happen, knowing the medication that he is on, I mean all this to me says not to let this person be alone in a situation like that, in the woods or on the water or somewhere he could become disoriented and seriously hurt, as we see happened. Hopefully there was no thought or doubt as to whether or not he could be in this environment alone and be okay? Because if there was then I'm sure that would be one of the things that would haunt this family for the rest of their lives, and it may be one of the things that they questioned their selves about everyday.I feel very sorry and sad for them. My personal belief is in God, and I believe one thing for sure God sees and knows all. So his, and other deaths under mysterious circumstances, it is known how and why. And hopefully these families have a belief in God and that is their strength and their peace.

[@njmcd]

I have 2 friends in the 🇬🇧 who haven't slept either from the heatwave and having no A/C like we all have in Florida U.S. Updated autopsy results sound spot on for a combo of CTE/oxycodone.

[@thesheshed1775]

Fits many profile points for missing 411.

[@glendanison3064]

I think the simplest explanation is the best. A combination of CTE and medication lead to a psychotic episode. As far as the phone pings go I don't think there are too many towers in the area. This is the least populated county in the lower peninsula with less than 12,000 and is entirely within the Manistee National Forest. Sad, tragic loss but I really don't see too much of a mystery here. Still, great video as always.

[@hatuletoh]

The explanation for the phone "pinging" 11 miles away from where the body was found might just be that that was where the closest cell tower was. A "ping" usually means that a phone has connected to the closest tower, it doesn't say anything about the exact location of the phone. The sort of explanation journalists tend to omit.

[@mamazalama]

Thank you for that bit of information Hatuletoh! That helps alot and I hope Adam read your reponse too!

[@alyasfukename3355]

@@patrickglaser1560 exactly, pinging is used with triangulation to figure out a more precise location.

[@H.O.P.E.1122]

Thought the same thing.

[@ancientbuilds3764]

You are correct. It would have been a mast in the line of sight. You need two more masts for triangulation, as long as there are no hills in the way.

[@MAUREENALLEN79]

What is the distance a cellphone can be pinged by a cell tower though?

[@shay2218]

I have 100% heard that same scenario play out before- a strong, tough guy in the woods suddenly get super scared and run away acting erratically, feeling like someone is following them and then mysteriously winding up dead. I think it was a missing 411 case and it really mirrored this case. Anyone else remember anything? Weirdness in the woods for sure. Be safe all. Stay on the trail. 💜

[@SentientDMT]

Yeah I remember hearing about that. This athlete called his wife saying that people were chasing him. They tried to track his phone and he was found 10 miles from where it last pinged. Also he was found missing most of his clothes and there were no signs of injury. His death was ruled from exposure even though the weather was fair. Weird shit.

[@markpettie681]

You are right on point

[@RadagastBrown420]

David Paulides is a bloviating conman.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

I hunt and worked in vermin control. Been alone deep in the woods many times, at times Iv started to feel weird and scared and then felt a terrible unnatural presence, happened a few times but I don’t stick around and leave.

[@PoeLemic]

What do you think it was? Any ideas as to what you felt? And, is the Woods the only place that you have felt that presence? -- or, any presence, for that matter.

[@jessicacanfield5408]

Very weird and scary

[@titanblood8210]

It isn't fair that these creatures go around the forests intimidating people.

[@IanP1963]

IS IT BIGFOOT DO YOU THINK ?

[@aeolianhrp1]

@@IanP1963 No.

[@lazuritekitten]

Cullen's disappearance is very near home to me, is a case that always leaves me fixated on and perplexed about. Bray creek. Beast of bray creek. So many questions, such a heart breaking situation. God bless Cullen and his family

[@Jay-n262]

Same here, I live in west Michigan. I was following the news at the time he went missing until he was found. The whole time I was thinking this doesn't add up, after 3 day's on a warm memorial day weekend he should've been found alive. After that I discovered missing 411 and have been following it ever since.

[@Jay-n262]

@Tommy TheGreek that's what I thought too. Michigan has the dogman tales. Up near Ludington in the late 1800s a young girl was taken into the woods by some wolf or dogman she described. Luckily they found her but the creature escaped.

[@ThePresentation010]

Hmm. Basic woods story really. 411 is ok. But it's basically a collection if ppl grieving. No actual info about what happens. But it's basically cryptids that hunt ppl in the woods. Rarely but occasionally do they hunt ppl in nearby areas outside the woods. They have alot of abilities. Very powerful abilities. The only good thing about this story is that they didnt distort time to have him be found 5yrs later like they do on some victims.

[@Jay-n262]

@@ThePresentation010 people that vanish and if they're found they're found it's miles up a mountain. A 3 year old would never do that but it's happened numerous times. Im guessing you haven't followed his work because it's baffling. Dogs can't find a scent, bodies are found in area's that were searched dozens of times. Whatever is happening is very strange.

[@lazuritekitten]

@@ThePresentation010 uhhhhh not at all, this is not a "basic woods story" by any stretch of the imagination. This is a very maintained and rather small campground many frequent often, it was less than a couple of miles from residential roads anywhere you went that you would run into. He was found in a field that was previously searched multiple times and they were unable to pinpoint a cause of death and eventually settled with choking on vomit and being hypothermic. He made many mentions of brush being thrown at him while he was on the River fishing. He was alone and things quickly went south after his solo fishing expedition. There's a lot of weird s*** that goes on in Michigan in general and this is just one sad example from someone who was young, capable, fit, strong and well experienced in the outdoors, who died tragically with a lot of mystery surrounding him still

[@PECorbit]

This one is weird from practically every angle! You did a great job researching all the facts and made an extremely interesting video again!

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

This is a very bizarre case, I agree. Two things that really stand out are: 1) They said that “hypothermia was caused by vomit” which is odd as I thought hypothermia was caused by exposure to severe cold, not vomit… and 2) They stated that a number of people go missing in that exact area every single year - and - that they wander around for a few days and then they are found. Huh? Why wouldn’t those people find the roads or cabins or other places that they expect that Colin should have found? Did anyone ask any of them what they saw or what happened while they were missing? It certainly makes me wonder what’s really happening in that area. Thanks for another great head-scratcher. Have a great weekend.

[@theunironicpeasant4266]

I looked it up because that weirded me out too and apparently in some cases hypothermia can be induced when the body is too exhausted to maintain proper temperatures. Which can happen when you are too sick or intoxicated. Sickness can be caused by inhaling vomit. Or maybe he had such a violent panic episode that he went into shock which lead to hypothermia. Who knows? Either way it all sounds like a perfectly tragic storm of things. So sad and scary.

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

@@theunironicpeasant4266 Thanks for researching that and sharing the information. It’s certainly very interesting. Most likely his tragic death will never be solved.

[@Pegasus856]

I think this was a mistake because the information I found said cause of death was pneumonia caused by inhaling his vomit

[@theunironicpeasant4266]

@@Pegasus856 yeah like I said, sickness can apparently lead to the body getting too exhausted to keep up a normal temperature and he was also exposed to the elements so pneumonia could set in fast. I never knew that was a thing, but it's a little scary the sheer magnitude of things that can kill you.

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

@@Pegasus856 Thanks, that possibility makes more sense. It is really sad regardless.

[@wedin1051919]

Whatever they say about having an "episode" or not, or being paranoid, the fact is he ended up dead with no explanation. So his paranoia was justified.

[@Malibu_Dawn]

Its not paranoia if they really are trying to kill you/

[@mrvuthyband]

I know right. You see commenters agree with the official story of paranoia/ an episode occurred, but theyre not even 100% on how he died

[@benjantzen8910]

Probably saw UFO and then had Men in Black after him…

[@ThisAlphaWolf]

This is one of those cases where I have to wonder if the family is withholding some of the details, such as when it was suggested that he "may have thought he saw something", that there may have been more detail passed from Cullen to the family, but possible omitted by the family to the authorities. If they perceived it as being a hallucination or paranoid episode, they may have felt it unimportant to add. For instance, if he was seeing humanoid figures, they may have left that part out since it is pretty widely accepted that those types of things would fall under hallucination and that hallucinations cannot physically harm anyone, so it was not important to relay and may have even made him look "crazy". Whether he has "episodes" or not, it is entirely possible that he reported seeing something that made him fearful to his family. It is also entirely possible that he very well did see something. One of my bigger questions is why he would have left the safety of the cabin, if he was so fearful. It tends to make me wonder if whatever was bothering him was perhaps inside with him before he made the decision to leave or was perhaps right outside and he felt that it would inevitably get inside to him, leaving him feeling like a sitting duck. Whatever the case may be, we know very well that reports of becoming fearful, scared or nervous have occurred prior to other people having gone missing. Because of this, we shouldn't overlook this element, from my point of view. Additionally, Oxycodone does not cause people to hallucinate or become nervous, even in people with brain cancer. Yes I know CTE is not brain cancer, I'm using that as an example because it is a disease that is well known to cause sensory disturbances due to neurodegeneration. It's typically the disease itself, if those elements are present. I should also note that elevated levels of Oxycodone are evident in people that take them on a regular basis for chronic pain. The report did not state that the levels were beyond therapeutic levels, which would lead me to believe that this would likely have only been a small contributing factor. Elevated levels are to be expected in someone that takes these types of medications for chronic pain, even if the levels are elevated beyond what would normally injure or kill an 'opioid naive' person. I have only some very basic knowledge of CTE and now have a better understand of the episodes that the family was referring to. Even still, because we see these same elements in other cases, it seems as if it would be highly possible that there was more at play here than meets the eye. For instance, if Paulides is to be believed, then those with disabilities like CTE would be in one of the allegedly targeted groups. It's a shame that these disappearances are kind of a niche topic and that the common elements are not more widely known. If they were, perhaps we would be finding more answers instead of seeing more frequently emerging questions. Anyhow, I feel terribly for Cullen Finnerty's family. No matter what occurred, it's clear that something did and that they lost a beloved family member over it. It's not my intention to diminish that aspect in any way. Regardless of the answers to many of the lingering questions, the fact remains that they've lost someone that they dearly miss and love. Whatever the case may be in reality, the things that I'm sure of are that this was a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to his family and friends. Excellent video once again, my friend! Phenomenal work, keep shining that light on the bizarre!

[@ThePresentation010]

Tl;dr. You're too ignorant to understand what goes in the woods. You and your drugs need to chill out. And realize theres more out there than your lil brain can grasp.

[@the_real_pennelle593]

@@ThePresentation010 whoa.....chill out dude!

[@mudzy9820]

how can all those people overlook an area that close to his cabin then magically reappears a few days later nah

[@amywill9185]

It sounds like an episode of paranoia, brought on by possible meth or onset of schizophrenia which sometimes presents itself in the teens and twenties.

[@ThisAlphaWolf]

@@amywill9185 Yes, it very well could be. One of the many possibilities.

[@eveliinaniilivuo7329]

”We have to get bizarre right from the get go here” sounds great!🤩 Thank you again!♥️

[@musiccreator3559]

Im laughing Adam! Your tshirts are so apt for the current climate. The whole world is bizarre! Definitely getting me one!😁🙌🙌

[@MissingVoidTV]

You're not even kidding! What a weird time to be alive

[@Jay-n262]

It's time to get bizarre and this case is definitely bizzar.

[@damienjstepick]

Considering his backstory it’s shocking how very little his disappearance has been covered. Even with him having CTE it’s rarely discussed… why? I’d think his case would be one that’s front and center. Makes me have greater faith in the work done by David Paulides. There’s something odd going on in the forests of the world.

[@yourdashingheroidol7909]

Sad to say but probably because he wasn't a more successful quarterback at the professional level. He had a distinguished college career but it was at Division II not Division 1 which also could be a contributor. Unfortunately his NFL career didn't pan out. Again I'm not saying it's right but if Tom Brady had been in the same situation I think you would hear about it all over the news nationally , whereas with Cullen, like you said that really wasn't the case. I am sure it was a huge story in that area.

[@thescarletgraywitch8052]

Thing is Damien, there's no mention that CTE was confirmed, and your comments are a big part of the reason that I question the accuracy of that diagnosis. CTE was identifiable at the time of his autopsy, yet no mention is made of the brain. Add to this that there's been no discussion of this tragedy linked with the publicity push of CTE and TBI awareness, and I really question that assumption. I just wonder if this really came down to drug abuse or addiction and the family just doesn't want people to know that that was his struggle. I take pain meds and because I use it as recommended for pain, I never become woozy or disoriented, so just taking his pain meds as prescribed makes that a questionable result also. I think as brave as he was that it's saddest we don't know Brian's wishes. Had he lived, and recovered from his issues, he'd have been a great ambassador for any issue.

[@thescarletgraywitch8052]

@@yourdashingheroidol7909 yeah as a Buckeye who has been at smaller colleges since, this is a truth. You really have to use a Wolverine as the example? How about we say "if he'd been Patrick Mahomes?"

[@danielwilson9600]

Something odd indeed! Why are so many that go missing only to be found dead with no apparent cause of how they died? Also so many people searching only to find him deceased a half mile away? With only that short distance, shouldn't they have found him sooner? David Paulides has touched on many similar cases.

[@thescarletgraywitch8052]

@@danielwilson9600 yeah they didn't mention if searchers had been over where he was located previously. We usually hear about that...

[@pocketjock]

Dude I really enjoy the videos! I look forward to seeing your new content! Thanks

[@MissingVoidTV]

Cheers Trenton! and most welcome mate 👍

[@ericharris5299]

Dude has the best story telling voice on KZbin.....

[@MissingVoidTV]

Haha! thanks Eric 😂👍

[@bemlatie5176]

Big fat lie

[@chrishansen8558]

How's Dylan?

[@samratcliffe8549]

Idk mrballen goes pretty hard

[@ThePresentation010]

Hmm I rate ballen first. Then maybe this guy or swampdweller. And others arent that good. But I like this guys content. I like cryptid stories. They're so powerful and I understand and know what happens in the stories. Ballen's content is ok. It's starting to suck a little bit because he tries to build up suspense.

[@brookiebrooke3813]

A mental break or a panic attack wouldnt have killed him. The only thing we should be focused on is why are so many people wander off into the woods ONLY to be baffled on how they died!

[@leopardshark9581]

No, but having a panic attack w/delirium and wandering into the wilderness will.

[@urmammy84]

You can scare yourself so bad during a panic attack that you give yourself a heart attack.

[@chloeholmqvist4798]

A panic attack that makes you go into the forest when the temperature drops can absolutely kill. Hypothermia isn't to play around with.

[@davecurtis6930]

These being feed off your panicking& anxiety,u need to learn how to relax.maybe read different things instead of this material if it scares u.

[@chemigamer9088]

@@urmammy84 I doubt that , that's extremely rare. I've had panic attacks where my heart us racing So hard that I can't feel anything at all. And almost pass out , but heart attacks are a bit of a stretch.

[@welsh.truth.dragon3914]

Yes Adam lad “lets get bizzar”

[@DL-df3lg]

Bro... It's spelled right there on his shirt..

[@GrinninPig]

Let's get bazaar

[@welsh.truth.dragon3914]

Only someone from the north will understand my spelling with an A lol

[@icantthinkofaname15]

@@DL-df3lg lmao

[@infigrins]

As far as him hearing children playing in the woods, I had property in Michigan I heard the same thing and when I investigated they were turkeys mating..I could see how that sound could become a trigger

[@garycannon9833]

Excellent job as always. Prayers go out to his family and my he rest in peace

[@kvarner6886]

It's so nice to see you look at a case like this more logically. I've been frustrated by the wild theories in part cases. The phone pinging the next tower over is really common, by the way. It's almost certainly just an underlying data point in this case. Keep up the good work!

[@robandcheryls]

Thanks!

[@paulbeadle1714]

Hi Adam hope you are well mate look forward to this channel take care from Lincolnshire England

[@patriciajrs46]

Thank you Adam. Good to hear you again.

[@Natalie-qh3dd]

Hey Adam Nice to hear from you can't wait for the video xxx

[@FloridaMan0561]

This channel always has great content,thanks for the hard work that you put in to bring us all the awesome videos!

[@MissingVoidTV]

Most welcome mate! 👍 and thank you for the support too

[@Zis4Zorro]

I just wanted to say I've loved watching how your work has changed over the past year. The content has always been great but the quality of the video as increased a ton as has your confidence it seems. Keep up the amazing work!

[@wht-rabt-obj]

Born and raised in Michigan my whole life, just about everyone has "a cabin up north". I wonder if he saw a Sasquatch or a Dogman and that's what scared him so badly...the creature became curious with his cell phone and carried it 11 miles while satisfying it's curiosity.

[@meredithgrubb7027]

Ive been checking this channel all day wondering if u were going to post. Thanku!!!

[@Enceladus4538]

You are such an amazing narrator, Adam. I get so excited when you present a new case, I know it's going to be informative and interesting before I even watch. I can't say enough about your channel and can't wait for new content (hopefully soon!). You are my absolute fave 🖤

[@normacook8325]

Excellent coverage!

[@CarolinaRaine]

Well done!

[@tonetone8980]

Nice shirt. Love the content and narration.

[@MissingVoidTV]

Cheers Tony 👍

[@sadlad2005]

RIP Cullen. Sincere condolences to the family and friends. Thank you for another well done video. Your work is brilliant. Narration and research is good. Much appreciated. I for one would never go into the woods alone, esp after all the 411 documentaries, definitely something unnerving going on that we're totally unaware of.

[@TheGamersState]

You can get bizarre as much as you want Adam, it makes these videos all the more interesting.

[@yettobseen]

Strange for sure, but the wood in this part of the world are highly mysterious. And alone I would not go.

[@aeolianhrp1]

I love this region of the state of Michigan. There are more dangers in cities.

[@dianneD27]

Hi Adam , great to see an upload from you. Never heard of this case before . Excellent video as always 👍🐨🦘🇦🇺👍

[@geggycuba3469]

Many of these disappearences are so weird and inexplicable that it really makes you suspect that perhaps there are still a lot of unknown beings or circumstances out there n the wild. At least it scares me enough - and natural fear is often the best self-defiance - to avoid going all alone. And thank you for you interesting research, like your channel!

[@deannalands3940]

As always great video. Love your voice.

[@lynndurbin9403]

I have a brain injury and have since 2011, seems fishy to me that any symptoms did not occur prior to his disappearing. Usually paranoia and other things show up fairly early and are treated accordingly. If he was afraid, then I think there was something that made him feel that way. Not because of his injury but something he had seen or heard that made him run. If his phone was not with him, makes sense that someone else had it.

[@Pegasus856]

I was just reading some articles about this myself and his wife says he had had a similar episode before "Jennifer Finnerty said it wasn't the first time he had a paranoid episode. Instead of driving home from Detroit a year and a half earlier, he took off for Grand Rapids in western Michigan due to fears the FBI would follow him, she said. She said her husband remained in a state of panic for four to five days."

[@alexandraabercrombie3726]

@@Pegasus856 ... THANK YOU!! That at least answered a big question. He had experienced paranoid delusions in the past.👍

[@MoonDog05]

I hope you get better Lynn. I’ve had a couple bad concussions

[@TK-ui2th]

there are several reports of his family saying he had prior episodes. im not sure why they even let him go fishing alone in the woods, to be honest. if his phone was missing, it's probably because he dropped it while bumbling around the forest in a paranoid panic.

[@MoonDog05]

@@TK-ui2th that’s crazy.

[@b.c.7741]

Great work, Top!

[@blankslate77]

Interesting that so many of these disappearances happen in the woods/forest. Panic comes from the Greek panikon, literally "pertaining to Pan," the god of woods and fields, who was the source of mysterious sounds that caused contagious, groundless fear in herds and crowds, or in people in lonely spots. In the sense of "panic, fright" the Greek word is short for panikon deima "panic fright," from neuter of Panikos "of Pan."

[@whitedragoness23]

Interesting maybe it has to do with this strange forest phenomenon. Some people report the feeling of dread, and being watched. Some say it’s primitive fear which surfaces which kicks in when in the wilderness

[@thepartysjustbegun5557]

That is really interesting thanks for sharing 💕

[@benjantzen8910]

Awesome! Now do Santa Claus!

[@abingleyboy]

The ping could be that, the tower that the ping was made on was the closest tower within the large area that he was found. Especially if he was found on higher ground. 11 miles though does seem a heck of a long distance. But it's only a suggestion. As for his fear, that could be a simple panic attack, having suffereed these myself, I know they are horrid events, and can make you act different to your normal behaviour. One of my attacks happened when nothing was on tv, and I started to feel scarred for some reason, I tried going to the toilet, thinking that would stop the fear, and tried getting into bed and going to sleep, but the fear just got worse and worse and I ended up getting dressed & walking a mile to my mothers home in an absalute state at sometime after midnight. Something nothing like me at all, Another time was while shopping where suddenly I couldn't cope & I had to abanndon my shopping & trolly in the store & run outside in shear terror. I always suspect that food has something to do with panic attacks, like coffee, coke etc & possibly fattening foods or salty foods or even alcahol. That may trigger either a missed heartbeat or palputations while the body works on the food or even just a stomach upset & then trigger a fear of dying or that something ominous is about to take place. The fact that he had just eaten would play into this, you also don't need to have sufferered mental health issues to have panic attack & they are much, much worse than "just a panic attack" & can send you into a complete state of total fear & confusion, but again just a theory of mine.

[@bigwendigo2253]

@OPENYOUREYES ANDWAKEUP that’s a pretty cringe comment bro

[@leopardshark9581]

Well food probably has nothing to do with it, though I guess caffeine could make a panic attack worse. And most def you don’t *need* a mental disorder to have a panic attack, but repeated attacks may indicate a disorder (I.e. an anxiety disorder). His history of things like this does not bode well.

[@abingleyboy]

@@leopardshark9581 I'm not saying "food" as such but more the digestive system & after eating, it raises the blood sugar and blood pressure and also sends blood to the stomach from elsewhere in the body, all it could take is some stomach glitch or heart murmur, especially if you go off on a walk after. In this case if they say he was suffering onset dementia then that clearly would or cause a cofused anxious state & paranoia, Especialy if he was having a stroke during the whole episode.

[@slicko69ng]

@OPENYOUREYES ANDWAKEUP I don't understand why you think any of this is funny at all

[@slicko69ng]

@OPENYOUREYES ANDWAKEUP After your comment, I'd like to push your eyes closed. And it would be quick too

[@indiashante1560]

I'm new to this channel and omgooodness your voice and accent won me over immediately. I look forward to exploring your channel. ☺️ Edit: why hasn't this case gotten more media attention? Especially since this guy was a professional football player. This is my first time hearing about this and I actually pay attention to cases like this. 🤔

[@MAUREENALLEN79]

Your content is top notch big time!

[@KenBlackRifleAmerica]

I believe what Mr Finnerty suffered from was a Psychotic Episode or a Break as it's often called. Normally it begins as the individual starts to display subtle changes in behavior and attitude as well as thoughts and perceptions. As the 'break' begins it's first stage, or Prodrome, the person will be confused, hear things and misunderstand what's going on. I believe THIS was the stage that Cullen Finnerty was in while fishing along the river. Most will come out of this stage and then seek treatment which may last upwards of six months. Medication will then be used to stop these episodes in the future. However, Mr Finnerty never got the chance for treatment and died there in the woods. Perhaps of a heart attack due to the sheer terror and paranoia of the situation that had befallen him. RIP Cullen Finnerty, Warrior....

[@amoses73]

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 🛎🛎🛎

[@Jen-nemo1934]

Very probable, I agree with you on this.

[@aeolianhrp1]

That is what I believe as well.

[@jamesknapp64]

All around agreed

[@MissSpiritual.Soldier]

No heart issues were found in the autopsy though

[@LisaCooper-thevegan-123]

Hey Adam! Lovely to see you again! I live in the UK too, it's been sooo hot! Keep cool, stay safe my friend! Love from Lisa UK 👏☺️☺️♥️♥️♥️

[@hannakentm9913]

Of the Missing 411 criteria fitting cases where there is a last contact made via phone, they all are eerily similar. Victim is panicked and scared of "something", but can't/doesn't elaborate on what it may be and then they seem to just vanish moments after. I really want to know what they are seeing.

[@ElDuffman]

Which others involve a phone call about seeing something??

[@ameliashostak4764]

Again just gotta say that I love this channel.

[@nikkinicole5588]

If you see something in the woods and get scared then why would you take off and go into the woods? Weird

[@aeolianhrp1]

To hide from the perceived threat.

[@sadlad2005]

I would probably do the exact same thing, run/sprint and try hide, but whatever 'IT' is, is upon you before you have time to catch your breath, I would assume, just my 2c worth.

[@PanzerdivisionWiking]

Love your new shirt man! It looks really slick! Hopefully I’ll be able to order one really soon! Thanks for covering this story!

[@Wazza25]

Thanks for the shout out Adam! . Im really glad you picked up this case. I was just telling someone today what a great and trust worthy source of information you are! Edit. Thanks to Warren for making me aware i had a shoutout from Adam at Top Mysteries. 😁 .

[@jillybean0528]

I almost wonder if he wasn’t actively trying to avoid the searchers. If the circumstances triggered an episode of anxiety, panic and paranoia, it stands to reason if he saw or heard the searchers, he may have thought they were out to get him. That would have certainly kept him in that full-blown anxiety state and maybe caused his heart to give out.

[@hazeld3703]

I think people must panic and avoid searchers more often than we’d think. Read a case about a women who disappeared along the Appalachian trail, found later starved to death in her little camp, within easy distance of some mountain bike trials. The news reports at the time mentioned that she had recently gone off of or ran out of her anxiety meds - a detail that had been lost in the retelling.

[@shaiderayaz3988]

Hi Adam hope yor well and enjoying the summer,this incident is real sad especially not knowing wat happened to this lovely person,godbless him and let him be in heaven with the angels Amen,keep up the gud work and hope to c u soon take care x

[@aprilkmiechick7953]

I recently found your channel and have been enjoying bingeing it since. I just ran across an episode where you were responding to comments left by people that were giving “feedback” and multiple people were comparing you to Chills and saying it sounded like you were copying. I just wanted to say that I completely disagree. I think there is a very distinct difference between the way the two of you sound and I really enjoy the tone and sound of your voice. I know that video was a while ago but I just found it today so I wanted to say something. Thank you for producing such enjoyable content 😊

[@donnablack6280]

Blimmin hot again early September when I'm listening. Very intriguing case!

[@shellythom7248]

I’m really starting to think that the silence in the woods and it causes anxiety in people and fear. That makes them run off unprepared. I never had anxiety but once on a plane I had a full blown anxiety attack and had some crazy thought of maybe they will just open the door and let me out. Thank god an attendant saw it coming and talked me down. And gave me a glass of wine. It chilled me. I think this happens to people in woods. I think a form infrasound might cause this sudden onset and some maybe more susceptible to it.

[@joncrane7661]

People are prepared in the woods when they go missing. please see David paulides. KZbin and books in the library.

[@victoriaseekret7253]

Good point 👍

[@alexandraabercrombie3726]

@ideliveredit ... You're speaking of when they sense a predator about. Yeah, I've experienced that too. Sometimes we're the predator they sense.

[@journeysalkebulan]

@@WellStudied not the same thing! Two different types of silent one abnormal, dangerous and deadly!

[@MoonDog05]

Maybe if ur a fcking dumb ass 😂😂😂 that doesn’t make sense I’m sorry. Sometimes you probably have to take a shit cause it makes ur nerves move about maybe bring some wet wipes and be more prepared. Or just don’t go in the woods if that’s YOUR problem. And stay the hell off planes before you hurt somebody. Thank you !

[@igitha..._]

Is it just me or is Adam looking more and more dapper every video?

[@joylee8833]

Hey Adam I got one of your shirts.. it says just how the last few yrs. This smoke screen and the chaos that came afterwards.. is just that BIZARRE... Thank you for my shirt..

[@D_Smith81]

Always hit the like , before watching cause i know its going to be good. You do a really good job on the mysterious content, keep up the great work Adam! Thanks.

[@cupcakecrusheryt]

YAY!! Best nights to fall asleep is when listening to your vids! :D

[@dianne11ca]

I don't understand how, in such a small area, someone can simply disappear, only to be found dead, albeit uninjured, 3 days later. It's weird beyond words.

[@MissingVoidTV]

I agree, it felt very odd in Cullen's case especially

[@Llerrah508]

9 hours ago! I should be getting notices. Very exciting for the new video A.

[@Jen-nemo1934]

Great videos..!! So informative and interesting, and I especially *love* the intro..🦇🦇🌕🌕🐺🐺 & the new merch. 😎😎👍👍🖤🖤

[@meredithgrubb7027]

I dont even know what to make of the cell phone pinging. Either the source was wrong or something had run off with the phone and began messing with it. He must have been terrified to get out of the boat because of brush hitting him, like it was being thrown.

[@patrolland9740]

They never said if he still had his phone on him? His boat was empty, did they ever find his gear? Strange story.

[@alexandraabercrombie3726]

@Beatrix ... He could have lost it when he was running and the battery have gone dead.🤷

[@rorydeblake6433]

I live in Newaygo County in Michigan just about a half hour from Baldwin where this happened and I literally never heard a thing about it.

[@bluebell5753]

Thank you Adam very mysterious and also very sad Top marks for bringing us this story during the very hot weather we’ve just enjoyed or in some cases endured. We’re not used to it here in England I’m from Lancashire and found it quite hard at times. Once again thank you We’ll probably never know what happened to the poor lad

[@naturiatinajero6677]

Wow I just got on KZbin seen this clicked real quick

[@HiSummerWasHere]

And about the pings, could it be possible that since he was out in the woods, the towers several miles away were just the closest ones? Maybe pinging off of the one 11 miles away made it look like the phone was near that tower, but actually the closer one it had been pinging off before got busy (?) and relayed him to another tower when the phone didn't actually move? I feel like there have been a lot of cases where we've all sort of had to accept that cell tower pings aren't the same as location data and aren't reliable for determining location.

[@pletch73]

Yeah, I'm gonna have to get a couple coffee mugs and a shirt. Thanks Adam

[@sylviasnyder6751]

His cell phone would ping off the nearest tower. Maybe in that wooded area, the nearest tower was 11 miles.

[@nickcompton5981]

It's always a bit strange when the dogs can't pick up a sent, especially if the dogs are starting from the person's car or last confirmed location they were seen..those dogs are trained very well and have a good record of finding people.

[@chemigamer9088]

Those Dogscan smell for miles, it's so weird how they can't pick it up.

[@theflowerhead]

I was literally thinking how cool a shirt would be. I hope I can get one. ✌️ Great vid as usual, you sure help me through my illness. Thank you.

[@krisquigley4497]

Is it possible to die of fright? How awful for him if that is what happened. Going to order a Bizarre coffee mug and looking forward to making everyone at work jealous.

[@marykazeck1449]

I thought the same thing.. dying of fright..

[@crystalvillareal7706]

Yes someone can die of fright!

[@ayabokti161]

Scared to death is a thing

[@patriciajrs46]

Yes, someone can die of fright. Heart arithmia, a heart attack basically. I know the autopsy didn't show that, but I believe it could have happened.

[@glendaharris4776]

My thoughts exactly could someone die of fright. Whatever is out there must be horrifying.

[@gaylereid8264]

Adam, Dearest, It's "Cher' Ō' Kē". Luvya, Man

[@magnuszetterqvist5936]

Thanks 👍😘🇸🇪

[@bekifeebelcher3757]

Very strange. I'd like to point out a few things , based on your narrative. 1; he said he was scared , being hit by brush , while on the pontoon. 2 ; how far away was his family ? 3 ; how far away from the cabin was the dock ? 4 ; Colin said he saw two men . The owner of property he was found on also heard some yelling , disturbance . Why it it , therefore , presumed Colin was being just paranoid ? 5 ; the bizarre account of his mobile phone pings . 6 ; how long after calling his wife did his family arrive on scene ?

[@hounddog4363]

This happened less than an hour from my current home and my childhood home. I paid close attention to any stories about it because of that. I don't know why people insist that there was something paranormal. This is a very isolated area with spotty cell service. That 11 mile cell tower may have been the closest. If you have an episode when you're alone, fishing, it could easily become fatal. If he hadn't been a football standout, I don't think you'd ever hear about it.

[@hounddog4363]

I don't doubt that he was a big, strong, guy, but if your brain is malfunctioning you can get irrationally terrified by anything.

[@kaylaeugene4161]

Hey great video as always. at 11:50 there a black silhouette behind you. It totally just ur chair but my god did it creep me out lol.

[@onefeather2]

It is just the shadows from the lighting, it tricks the eye.

[@Rh11993]

Ta for keeping me sane lad!

[@Loopylulu8]

That report of death painkillers & inhaling vomit sounds really shady I'm not dismissing the CTE & heart - lung issues, but it seems like the authorities r over egging the cake mix, no something isent right here x

[@alexandraabercrombie3726]

Agreed. Many people live long, full lives with enlarged hearts and livers. The cause of death wasn't any sort of cardiac episode anyway. I'm with you...they were really reaching here.

[@jeffholmstrom8713]

Bigfoot

[@DirtySanchez943]

Hairy bastard scared him 2 ☠️💀!!!@@jeffholmstrom8713

[@journeysalkebulan]

Just absolutely sad! 😔

[@Nyctophora]

Just ordered a tshirt, cheers! _Let's Get Bizarre_

[@thesheshed1775]

He was found "close to the cottage". Probably in an area already searched. Or an area search dogs should have located.

[@Good_Karma222]

This sounds very much like a case for the Missing 411!

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

There's always one.

[@Good_Karma222]

@@sirandrelefaedelinoge Yeah, back at ya!!

[@danielhicks4826]

Oh man I didn't know you were gonna do this one....wow....man this one always hurts when I first hears about it from Paulides.....I mean just such an absolute legend I mean the man sounds like an absolute legend just pure heart and power and skill and will. but the ending is just as tragic as it gets...and made all the more worse because I mean they were literally in contact with him during it he was alive he was fine! and then only to find him soonish and he's gone.....its just so tragic for his young wife and kids it really hit me hard this one for some reason, I honestly dont know what to make of it though, its obviously perfectly rational and fair to speculate or heck even assume his career damage he had received over the years- to tough for there own good- is a phrase that often comes to mind with studs like this man here, so the pretty much fact right that he almost certainly for sure had some brain damage and that could absolutely cause symptoms of psychosis and paranoia to just flair up basically at will....and yet the actual manner and cause and the fact he died at all still simply does not add up or really compute with that....unless as Paulides sort of suggested/speculated at that he and a few others in these situations were essentially literally "scared to death" but first of all A what would even scare this man? he seems like the kind of man who would literally run into a burning collapsing sky scraper or swim up from the ocean and head onboard the Titanic during a disaster...is it possible his cte and etc. literally caused him to hallucinate some what horrible image that literally just scared him to death basically? and if that wasn't it then again what are the odds he had a basically partial psychotic break/paranoid breakdown caused by say cte but then also at the same time simultaneously ran into trouble out there be it a couple of random what serial killers up to no good- and since he wasn't shot I just dont see that as a viable potential explanation because again I'm pretty sure you'd need like 4 in shape big guys to take down 1 Cullen and you'd need a gun likely to kill him and nothing like that of a fight aside from his somewhat twisted garders were an issue on his person, or is it genuinely a supernatural occurrence did he have literally the single worst bout of random bad luck ever and not just sufferer from a cte related paranoid episode/psychosis but also again at the same time simultaneously see and witness a straight up supernatural entity of some kind a predator haunting and stocking him which then either killed him in ways that cant be identified by us right now medically, or again that scared him to death.....or did he not have a cte related episode at all and is it something else entirely? its damn frustrating that will almost certainly never truly know for sure but I think any and everything's on the table potentially with this case, I absolutely know 100 percent that the supernatural spiritual realm is very real I just wish it made sense, but in the end based off what we do know and his own words on the phone in his last talks with his wife/family, I genuinely believe its either the more at least comparatively speaking "rational" explanation and he had some type of head/brain trauma/cte whatever related issue that basically just came up at random causing him to become paranoid, experience psychosis possible hallucinations etc., then went on basically a run from things that he created from his own mind in his own head and then that extreme exhaustion from just running like crazy along with extreme fear in the end led to his body just giving out unfortunately.....or something truly unusual happened even supernatural and he wasn't hallucinating one bit and in fact flat out had a run in with some type of evil spiritual/demonic entity which again in turn either directly killed him- which may or may not be unusual for such a thing its at least not exactly heard of paranormal activity to that degree very often, or this very real very legitimate hunting him down demonic /spiritual malevolent entity likewise led to him still being scared to death in the end.

[@jesuslovesmehemademewhole5547]

Love the shirts awesome 👌

[@corallewis3788]

Ty Adam and rest in peace to Collin

[@jakegraskey]

I've seen most of your videos & still everytime you pause & say..... Right. I feel like I missed something 😆. Great channel though. You definitely put a lot of time & effort into these videos. You do a much more thorough job than many others when it comes to breaking down these cases. Also, anyone who studies these cases knows it's not foul play. There are spirits & cryptid type entities in the forests & for unknown reasons & at unknown times they come alive. The people who end up victims in these situations are seemingly locked in a different dimension from their perspective. That seems to be the most common theme among the people that are all the sudden found alive in places that have been searched for days, weeks. Same goes for when people end up dead. The body is found days later, weeks later, once again in an area that has been searched over & over. All sudden there they are as if they're brought back from a dimension, realm, that we cannot perceive with human eyes.

[@thinlineofsanity1035]

What if he was still alive when the searches started? He was panicking, paranoid, possibly delusional, and even possibly hallucinating - if he stayed alive til searchers went in its extremely likely that his paranoia and belief that ppl were out to get him only got worse. And of course he'd run from searchers if he didn't understand they were there to help him. If he genuinely thought they were trying to harm him he'd keep moving, hide, and and not answer to the searchers. You've said numerous times there was no cause of death, but ive watched a few yt vids covering his case, and all of those said the cause of death was exhaustion. He also had his own feces on his face and up his nostrils. I remember those vids made it sound as if he literally kept moving, sometimes running for those several miles thinking he was being chased til he eventually collapsed and died from exhaustion.

[@aeolianhrp1]

Hi Adam. I am a new fan of your channel. The videos are so very well done. I particularly appreciate the documentary style and rational approach you take when presenting these fascinating stories of real events. I am from the state of Michigan and have spent time in the northern areas of both the lower and upper peninsulas of what is known as "The Great Lake State". I have a medical background and presently work in the field of mental health. I believe there are pieces of this tragic story that fit together. This man had a history of closed head injuries. He suffered from a related degenerative neurological condition. There were headaches mentioned in the days immediately prior to his untimely death. It sounds to me like there may have been a sudden psychotic episode that would explain his fearfulness and perception that he was in imminent danger from others who meant him harm. The voices could have been hallucinations. Depending on the growth of the forest floor spotting his body may not have been easy. He may have been avoiding the roads that transected the forests where he was found believing he needed to stay hidden to be safe. I lean heavily toward the belief that there was a medical explanation for what happened related to what was going on in his brain at the time. I would have been interested in more specifics of what the autopsy revealed as far as the size of the ventricles containing cerebral spinal fluid inside his brain. Was there a sudden bleed? Perhaps something creating pressure inside the skull caused his headaches? Was there any swelling? If there was swelling the brain stem could have become constricted at the base of the skull that would result in death. The headaches are a major clue I believe, in explaining what happened to this poor young man. Thank you for presenting this story.

[@GettingAids1997]

I cringed as soon as I saw the title. Looked into this extensively after paulides put it in one of his books. The guy had severe CTE, and that’s the end of the story really. Surprised you did a video on this

[@K37-h1z]

Can't believe I haven't heard of this story

[@miriamvanzelst625]

Maybe I missed it, but did the coroner mention the time of death? Or to put it otherwise, how long did he live after he disappeared?

[@andy1971williams]

was his mobile phone found on him ? if so it would mean he either walked a 22 mile round trip in his confused state or it was a faulty ping ! the coroner would have been able to tell if any or all of his medical problems caused his death . very odd

[@brandyrichard6001]

T Shirt is soooooooo sweet. Wish I could afford one. Love your content Adam. 👍👌😎😎😎🤜🤛

[@justsugarsweet]

Having watched many of these I think people are walking into parallel universes that open up for some unknown reason.

[@dnr2089]

The explanations are probably much more prosaic, but of course that’s not as exciting!

[@patriciajrs46]

I like this answer. I believe they exist. Maybe, the vibrations combined at just the right frequency, and the disappeared into a tesseract.

[@oatlord]

Maybe he was having heart attacks and his brain was trying to warn him. He translated that into general anxiety.

[@gemmagreene362]

The “sense of impending doom” is real with heart issues. If he had had a heart attack, you would have thought that would have come up at post mortem, but it could have been another heart problem.

[@paulywalnuts24]

Or maybe he was being hunted because he saw something?

[@oatlord]

@@paulywalnuts24 then it would have been obvious to the police. Assuming he died because he was caught.

[@todd7619]

I remember this when it happened, had forgotten all about it.

[@narcissusnarcosis614]

Window ac units FTW. total game changer while we're renovating anyway. Bizarre from the get go? Let's go then. 🙌🏻🖤