The Strongest Man in the Akatsuki

[@ThunderGodTG]

I already know mf’s ain’t gonna believe me when I say the universe made this timing TRAGIC for me 😭for the record I did NOT finish this vid in 16 hours I had been working on it for a minute, Universe just ain’t with me on this timing. Also I see a lot of comments talking about Itachi & Pain so if y’all want those to be their own vids lmk.

[@rterrell641]

More like perfect timing

[@collinleivas9605]

I don't know...first the Naruto is a genius video and now this, it seems you like you got it out for Six.

[@ThunderGodTG]

I’m ngl I actually wish I was nice enough to cook up like 7 new arguments, script, & edit this vid in 15 Hours 😭

[@collinleivas9605]

@@ThunderGodTG If it makes you feel better, I like the idea of Obito being number 1 (haven't finished the video but I like what I'm hearing).

[@hammelbear749]

we need a video on how genjutsu would interact with pain

[@jassyokay]

pov: you are in a "disagree with six" competition and your opponent is TG 😩😨

[@ThunderGodTG]

I stg this just is the worst timing for me idk how these uploads are lining up

[@Mimi-vv9gz]

I prefer TG vibes

[@CoolOkay_]

"These fools could never make me sweat." 🗣️🔥

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

The timing is crazy considering Six said the opposite the day before. This is now the 2nd time.

[@ThunderGodTG]

This timing is the universe fucking with me 😭 I stg I did not sit down and cook 8 new arguments and edit a vid in 15 hours

[@funnymano7497]

ooga booga

[@Mimi-vv9gz]

I prefer TG :)

[@sinoxilurk4126]

Babe wake up, its time for TG to "coincidentally" dismantle six's arguments again

[@Aliasx2005]

Six is a swagkage d rider

[@Paul_Frank]

Thank god, something to counter this insane anti Obito agenda from my man 7minus1

[@Crimson19977]

Fr. This is enough to earn a sub from me

[@shroomkxgephdre9214]

On the six viewer debate stream, he said he might do a youtuber debate one. If he does, imma need this debate recommended for them in the finals

[@JohaalyIve-qi2qd]

3times2 is a bit more of a threat in terms of Obito Agenda pushing

[@ontheinside]

Time to see this Obito propaganda

[@Crimson19977]

Its not propaganda if it's the truth

[@thatonezeldaguy250]

A wild itachi glazer has appeared

[@ontheinside]

@@thatonezeldaguy250 do you mean you

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@thatonezeldaguy250 That would be Kishimoto himself. He’s the biggest Itachi glazer out of anyone. Just look at the way he portrays him in the manga.

[@jaioncebollero1168]

Sage Naruto definitely would have lost to pain were it not for the kyuubi, but he was close. Sage Naruto isn’t coming close to even orange mask obito.

[@spicyboi544]

Just a point for potentially stating obito isnt above pain or itachi. You can be stronger than an opponent and still be careful and not want to risk fighting them. Obito is a cautious guy and did a whole giant plan to try and complete project tsukyomi, he respects both pain and itachi as powerful and since there so strong there is a chance they can beat him so in his perspective, why would obito try to antagonise pain or itachi when he can just have them on his side and not risk fighting them. Thats why he can be stronger than the other 2 and still not want to fight them.

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@spicyboi544 This is a respectable take and also works vice versa.

[@ThunderGodTG]

Bro actually read the manga we won, I agree 100% I have very few problems with people shuffling around the top 3 honestly even if I do lean into Obito.

[@diamantemrobinson]

The entire problem with Obito vs Itachi is the fact Itachi is 1.) sick and 2.) never once comes close to going all out. Zetsu was absolutely puzzled by Itachi performance against Sasuke which makes sense when we see Itachi go against KCM Naruto. There's the fact Itachi at 12 years old is a rival to Obito in the novel. A post Minato fight Obito. Obito in the manga admits Itachi could kill him. Even in a movie such as Road to a Ninja its consistent that Obito fears Itachi and runs from him in his own genjustu. Kishi has literally shown in multiple mediums that Itachi basically beats Orange Mask Obito.

[@infiniteflash4236]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@diamantemrobinsonobito admits if Itachi knew everything about him he would be dead. But Itachi doesn’t know everything about him so that quote is null. Edo itachi feats don’t count for alive Itachi, since alive Itachi was sick he was weaker alive than as an edo.

[@diamantemrobinson]

@@infiniteflash4236 it was just izanagi. Itachi planned amaterasu worked and damaged Obito. If Itachi himself saw that he himself would recognize izanagi and act accordingly. Edo caps your physical abilities and etc. Itachi benefited from edo regeneration. However physically speaking sick Itachi was very capable of all the physical feats he performed as Naruto and better as also hinted by Zetsu.

[@Crimsonking468]

Generally I view it this way Orange Mask Obito over Pain and Sick Itachi but he isn’t so far above them that Obito isn’t blatantly obvious in his Scaling over Them.

[@asa-c1y]

LMAO the six hate

[@ThunderGodTG]

Mf’s deadass won’t believe me when I say this shit coincidence I promise you if I could show ss in a YT comment section I would 😭

[@hammelbear749]

what if six is the one in TG’s stream 👀

[@gabrielaugustovicente1186]

Nice video bro, here in Brazil there are a lot of Itachi fanboys who say that Obito is physically weak and even say that Itachi beat Madara in the Valley of the End, which just shows their lack of knowledge about Obito. Obito was able to stop Suigetsu's Kubikiribouchou, which is so physically strong that it was able to temporarily stop an attack by the Raikage in the level 1 yoroi cloak. Suigetsu's sword only broke because it was already damaged from the battle with Bee. Naruto mk1 himself admitted that he was strong after being attacked by him. On top of all that, he's also fast and can dodge the chakra hands of Naruto mk1 and mk2 and could still fight on equal terms and do better in a 3v1 duel against Naruto, Kakashi and Guy. I honestly don't understand why youtubers and people here in Brazil underestimate Obito so much.

[@СергейКочан-ь3т]

Orange Mask and White Mask Obito are very different

[@gabrielaugustovicente1186]

@@СергейКочан-ь3т I know, but the itachi fanboys here in Brazil say that Obito is physically weak in every way.

[@gabrielaugustovicente1186]

@@СергейКочан-ь3т Honestly, I can't understand what's going on in their heads when they say that Itachi beats Madara in the Valley of the End.

[@lazairance]

Itachi has nothing on Madara lmao.

[@gabrielaugustovicente1186]

​@@lazairance There's a youtuber here in Brazil who says that Itachi beats Madara in the Valley of the End and this youtuber has a lot of followers, so this is spreading a lot here in Brazil, as the saying goes, and laugh so as not to cry.

[@KamranCreates]

The Obito agenda is back 🔥

[@TheEternalFlame57]

WOOO LETS GOO TG UPLOADED AN OBIGOAT VIDDD

[@JustSaiyu]

who do you think is stronger eos gojo or sukuna

[@TheEternalFlame57]

@@JustSaiyu EOS Sukuna, everything else before that is debatable but EOS Sukuna has the WCS

[@JustSaiyu]

@@TheEternalFlame57 thank you

[@cringewyrm]

Eternally based in the comment section about obigoat on a tg thunder goat video. Truly cinema

[@williammoore1050]

Thundergod be blessing us wit dese vids 🙏🏾

[@Necromancer4267]

Something I think is very worth touching on is a misconception about "Passive Kamui." A lot of the community seems to think that this means, for example, that Obito could be sleeping with his Sharingan turned off, and that his MS would literally turn on in his eye and activate Kamui if something attacked him. This is not true. "Passive Kamui" means that so long as Kamui is activated, Obito does not need to purposefully phase, or know about an attack to trigger the phase. It is passive *ONCE IT IS ON.*" This is proven when Obito tries to grab Rin's face after awakening Kamui and accidentally slips through her, forcing him to turn Kamui off to touch her. Kamui. Cannot. Turn on. By itself.

[@ThunderGodTG]

I’m of this opinion that’s it’s always active and he has to manually materialize which is where his reactions come into play. Also another good example is when Kakashi & Guy intercept Obito when he’s about to grab Naruto & Obito’s surrounded by dust meaning he’d have no way to see the attacks coming via shared vision.

[@Necromancer4267]

@@ThunderGodTG I just don't see how it could ALWAYS be active. Like I get that he has good chakra but an MS ability being turned on for literally months at a time? I don't buy it. It makes much more sense to me and for the series' rules if it's passive once it is turned on, and that it must be turned on at all. Once active he can phase passively, for example materializing in the Summit, immediately turning Kamui on and therefore being able to phase through Ay's V1 attack. I also think Itachi's Amaterasu proves that it's not always on, as either Obito is the greatest actor in the world, or he was actually hit by Amaterasu (which would not be possible if it was always on AND passive) and had to turn on Kamui to slip through it once it was on him. I'm pretty sure Amaterasu is the only situation in the entire series where Obito is touched by something damaging while not also intentionally materializing himself to touch something else, thus opening himself up to be touched. But I may not be remembering some other instance.

[@ThunderGodTG]

The way I interpret it is that Obito’s Kamui is always going to activate secondary to him consciously materializing. Like the Amatarsu feat is a good example since you see him physically grab his mask to pull it off. I already mentioned the Kakashi Guy example which does favor this as Obito was not actively looking at or sensing them despite him planning to go solid to grab Naruto. Obito is implied to have slipped through the rocks while unconscious by Madara yet stopped at some point meaning it may only subconsciously be active while he’s awake. Obito honestly spends most of his time consciously materialized since he sits down and stuff like that. The Rin example is actually one in favor of this since Obito fights the mist shinobi using Kamui but, then slips through Rin when he’s not focused on her or Kakashi, despite consciously materialize and slipping vs the mist shinobi.

[@Necromancer4267]

@@ThunderGodTG I don't think Obito would have to materialize to take off an item of clothing, since it all phases or materializes with him already, whether passive or not. I'm not completely sold by the Kakashi/Guy intro phasing, but I admit there's nothing solid as to how he knew *not* to materialize there. Maybe they just struck a fraction of a second too early before he started to be material (since his reaction time is such that he would absolutely be able to wait until his literal atoms are touching his target's, and not a moment earlier), but I guess there's evidence for each point, since I think the Amaterasu situation is as good of evidence for me as the Kakashi/Guy intro is for you. I also love that Madara implies Obito Kamui'd through the rocks like weeks before he even awakened Kamui. WTF is that about?

[@ThunderGodTG]

Yeah I mean I lean towards it being materialized since we also know Obito materialzed to reach for his Gunbai in the war due to the rain still hitting his body so directly grabbing items from himself does seem to indicate he needs to be material to reach items on himself or directly change his apparel. - This is the "Am I perspiring scene btw for reference"

[@Rdc_Dom]

Six ain't gone like this one 😂

[@lynnusuk2092]

Also Kurama mistaking Obito for Madara isn't a mistake. The white Zetsu were cultivated using both Hashirama and Madara's chakra, not to mention traces of Madara's chakra is inside Obito's body like the heart seal and the chakra rods. In Boruto Kurama straight up tell Himawari he can sense her chakra. So in Kurama's perspective Obito is overwhelmingly oozing Madara's chakra through his entire body to the point he can be viewed as Madara himself.

[@unclephillymya]

OK HOLD ON IS SIX AND TG WORKING TOGETHER ? THEY KNOW WHERE SWAG IS HIDING ?? Find out on the next DragonBallZ ep...

[@oliverstrizak9958]

What this video should have been is you flaunting Obito's power for three hours, only to finish with: "...that is why I'm confident that Obito is the second strongest member of the Akatsuki, right behind Kakuzu's *R* *A* *W* durability." Just to add to the Yagura incident, it might be the only case of an Uchiha outright killing another person, let alone a Jinchūriki, with base sharingan genjutsu. Itachi did something similar in the novels with Izumi, but even he needed his Mangekyō for that.

[@benwelsh5265]

I'm absolutely living for the hilarious timing between your uploads and Six's. The universe is determined to make you two rivals but honestly, it's a win for me subscribed to both of you.

[@duphty]

Six noises intensify

[@obsidianquill7949]

Forgot to mention obitos bomb blast dance. That shit is so big it eclipses the juubi in size.

[@ThunderGodTG]

I referenced it with his fire style towards the end but, it does have good AOE assuming the Rinnegan didn’t amp Obito that much reserves wise

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@obsidianquill7949 That’s a rinnegan Obito feat. There’s no evidence to suggest that Orange Mask Obito can perform a fire style that big.

[@obsidianquill7949]

@@arsenewenger4847 you’d have to say the rinnegan massively boosts obitos chakra reserves in order to say OM obito can’t do that. And we don’t have any evidence of that either. We’ve actually almost never seen him run out of chakra (with the one exception being when he was almost dead already in the kaguya fight).

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@obsidianquill7949 True but we can only use feats from the forms we have seen. We have blatant evidence Rinnegan Obito can perform that fire ball whereas none from Orange Mask Obito. To be fair it could be because he had a mask on and that prevents him from releasing the fire ball. However, thats just my headcanon.

[@poodie3887]

@@arsenewenger4847rinnegan isn’t originally his so shouldn’t the fire output be weaker due to more chakra drain

[@dougbeck4011]

Yessssss, great video and been waiting for someone to talk more than just kamui as while like you said yes it is one of the main things he uses and or wants to show for most of the series it's not all he can do and let's be real if it really acme down to it he would just use anything else he needed to, he just never needed to

[@ChrolloMana]

finally someone that defines timestamps for each attribute

[@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2]

Me when i am in a bad timing competition and my opponent is ThunderGod:

[@JohaalyIve-qi2qd]

wait people dont think OBITO is the strongest akatsuki? Next people are gonna say kisame loses to itachi... smh.

[@lazairance]

There are enough arguments for Itachi to win lmfao. (I’m talking about Itachi vs Kisame)

[@arsenewenger4847]

Itachi and Pain have a lot of arguments in their favor. Pain is blatantly called the strongest man in the Akatsuki and Obito himself thinks Itachi can kill him.

[@JohaalyIve-qi2qd]

@@lazairance I mean I feel like alive itachi doesnt have enough stamina, especially with MS and kisame scaling to bee makes him pretty damn strong. If kisame steals his chakra once he kinda just wins since itachi would get stamina nerfed + already existing bad stamina. This was sarcasm tho, I think its a close match either way.

[@hammelbear749]

there are many more wild stances but debating the top 3 is reasonable

[@RaySo100]

@@arsenewenger4847he didnt say itachi would kill him. He implied the fight wiuld be disadvantageous

[@GhasTown]

Amazing Video mah boy!! Been tryna scale Obito for a MINUTE physically and i completely disagreed with Six xD. Ppreiciate you for giving my man some FIRST FORM: JUSTICE BREATHING 👌

[@ThunderGodTG]

😂😂😂 appreciate it bro 🙏🏻

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

Six is right. Even Naruto would best Obito. Imagine if Obito actually absorbs narutos clones then they would hit him from inside the dimension

[@safeandsound712]

Hell yeah, my dude, TG speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! I love this video. Very well put together and presented. Thank you good sir, I would have liked to see more memes or SpongeBob jokes 😅 but if it doesn't fit I understand. Lol still great video brother.

[@safeandsound712]

A lot of people don't give any thought or put any stock into all the powers and techniques Obito has but almost never uses. He always has izanagi, and probably izanami, wood release, fire jutsu on par with freaking madara! Hasirama caliber regeneration, and he's so hard to kill! He had like 3 times in the war where he should have died but he just kept going. 😅

[@safeandsound712]

Also can you imagine if he took his eye back from Kakashi in the beginning of Shippuden or part 1?! He would have been unstoppable with DMS.

[@Crimson19977]

@@safeandsound712 lol, yeah, Obito is just that guy. Can we also talk about the fact that dude could resist madara's chakra rods while bleeding out fast from the chest? Obito is a beast

[@safeandsound712]

@@Crimson19977 oh for sure! And pulled a uno reverse on black zetsu in the process to become the 10 tails jinchuriki.

[@tophated216]

Pain Takes direct orders from Obito #OBGlo

[@ubergoober25]

“Nah I’d warp”

[@ThunderGodTG]

idk why this made me laugh lol

[@ubergoober25]

@@ThunderGodTG😂

[@JustRed916]

I love power scalers bro🙏🏿😭 you guys are underrated, keep improving ur videos man

[@justanothercommenterwithan9089]

The goat proving that the main villain taught by the other main villain who was the boss of the other main villains is in fact strong

[@markogamingtv7030]

"Am i sweating? No.. Its just the rain. These fools could never make me sweat."🗿

[@CH1C4N0444]

Thunder Bark not beating the "I disagree with Six" allegations. Bark God, we on to you

[@ThunderGodTG]

This gotta be my canon event shit is just scripted for me to look crazy

[@wallywest7800]

Obito is the strongest obviously if you are counting every member offical and unofficial. Pain is the strongest after that, (in reference to the famous statement)

[@Champeonic]

Yo Six wya, TG did it again 💀🔥

[@LightingOfTheRedHawk]

I'm waiting for ThunderGod vs Six, Obito debate 😂

[@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan]

Everyone knows Kukuzu is the strongest Akatsuki member, dare I say a rival to Madara? Madara and Kukuzu are the only two to face Hashirama and live to tell the tale. Madara had to use hacks to survive. Jokes aside, it makes no sense that Kakzu faced Hashirama and didn't die. My headcannon is Kakuzu used to be extremely powerful, but overtime he grew weak like Hanzo.

[@ispeakfacts6867]

Physically strenght:Kisame Travel speed:Obito Agility/Reflex:Itachi Iq:Itachi Battle iq:Debatable many akatsuki have good battle iq imo im go with Obito Stamina:Kisame Durability:Hidan Enduarance:Obito Chakra:Kisame/Pain Abilities:Sasori/Itachi Hax:Obito/Itachi Knowledge:Sasori Ap/Dc:Deidara/Pain Hearts:Kakuzu Strongest akatsuki list: 1.Obito 2.Pain 3.Kisame(Debatable) 4.Itachi 5.Kakuzu 6.Sasori 7.Deidara(Debatable) 8.Konan(without prep) 9.Hidan 10.Juzo

[@yukiminsan]

Even if he knows he could beat Pain or Itachi why in the hell would Obito want to fight them when they're already on his side? 💀

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

Itachi not on his side lol he's spying

[@Arcadia_warlic]

Obito being able to impale someone just by running his arm through their chest which typically requires a Chidori or other such super-activation is impressive. 11:15 Games call it the Kanzeon Lotus King, which is not a bad name for it. Will say that Guruguru itself might have gotten a Hashirama cell infusion from Yamato making him stronger, sort of braining the chain linking that to Obito. 15:48 Glad we agree on it just being a metal pipe, now.

[@foddera7380]

Fantastic video, I never even thought of that Kamui feat in the 5KS. Wish there was more emphasis on Obito’s combat speed but allg. Strongest in the Akatsuki for sure!

[@___________0Z0X]

You and I never have problems brother.❤️

[@kongchengthao9764]

Love the video bro! Can’t wait for the next vid!

[@ZeroFlameX]

Peep that Pokemon music in the background. I knew i wasn’t hearing things

[@ThunderGodTG]

Bro knows ball

[@ZeroFlameX]

@@ThunderGodTG for real!!! I heard a little bit of zinnia and even deoxys towards the end. I’m down with it

[@jcw034]

My push back on the Obito dodging Kamui argument is that he can see the chakra attempting to manifest since he has a sharingan and thus gives him an advantage in dodging. On top of that it's HIS eye. Which in this series there is precedent for recognizing ones on chakra even if far away from ones self (the FTG seals, Kyuubi chakra in the kin/gin twins, etc. I would argue he can feel his own ability from range and knows when it is being used due to him knowing his own chakra.

[@ThunderGodTG]

The problem with this is that that’s a Byakugan ability to see chakra move into the pathways. The Sharingan can track chakra however, the time frame for this to occur still is just a feat for Obito since it means he’d be able to do it vs other fighters. It also has to be a speed feat since Obito actually couldn’t perceive Kakashi’s Kamui that sent Naruto into the Kamui dimension despite him knowing they were planning on it. So it’s 100% a legit reaction feat for Obito even including sensory or ability to see chakra - the reactions & physicals have to be close for Obito to react accordingly.

[@jcw034]

@ThunderGodTG sharingan allows for seeing chakra. Which is how Sasuke saw the nanite bombs of Deidara. For Kakashi to use Kamui the chakra would be actively appearing/gathering in that position so he could see it and react to it. Its a color. So if let's say for example it's purple. If Obito sees Purple chakra appearing by an area he could react and dodge it given his speed is sufficient. The main thing is he can see it and react where as most in the series can't until it's on them

[@ThunderGodTG]

It allows you to see chakra yes, but it wouldn’t allow Obito to track the chakra building to the Sharingan to that pinpoint level, and here’s the thing even if he did the feat still applies it just means Obito can also do this for other fighters since this is all happening simultaneously. I will say if Obito knew prior he would have said it before the chakra actually got to Kakashi’s eye but, A he can’t track it to that degree the Sharingan is more broad with sensing chakra’s, and B if he does it just means his reactions are just that cracked.

[@titantrainer592]

I been waiting for this video since I heard the concept in sage’s server

[@PrinceSamTV]

Coulda swore I was subbed.. either way here we are 🫡

[@ThunderGodTG]

Ahh my man 🫡

[@supremelore_1533]

Yo ThunderGod! Off topic but I see that you use alot of raw japanese comic strips, by chance you read a bit of Japanese. In any case love the video, I'm all up for some Obito glazing! (and some japanese practice)

[@ThunderGodTG]

I do NOT I do have a translator I work with and do make it a point to try and understand the language as to actually relate it & explain it, but I promise you I’m not anywhere near being able to read it lmao

[@supremelore_1533]

@@ThunderGodTG "not anywhere near" but still somewhere! SOON... just 1000 more videos lol

[@ThunderGodTG]

😂😂

[@nolimitderrick4822]

Great video TG or thundergod

[@shroomkxgephdre9214]

On the six viewer debate stream, he said he might do a youtuber debate one. If he does, imma need this debate recommended for them in the finals

[@hammelbear749]

im tired of pushing agendas in comment sections seeing creators disagree is more interesting

[@TheCEOofTheMoment]

Obito is my GOAT! Put some respect on my boy name!

[@Crimson19977]

Great job on breaking down OM Obito's feats and arsenal in general. It's actually hard to scale OM Obito because it's the version of him that did the least fighting and you did this accurately. Could you make a video about war mask Obito and just war arc Obito in general? But I'll take a video on Pain and itachi too

[@Wasnt-1]

six path obito with sword of nunoboko is still the strongest for me

[@gentlepeeps3351]

Obito is my goat

[@Idcsaiyan]

how does it feel knowing your goat get slam by pain

[@Kobofromda512]

It’s extremely close, but I can’t imagine OM obito beating Nagato/pain in a fight… How will Obito deal with pains summons? If Obito chained up Nagato using kamui, could he just almighty push. Also the 6 paths of pain are a direct counter to Kamui because the other paths can attack him while he’s making contact with Nagato

[@rterrell641]

I think he would just have to rely on physical stats and his physical Justus but just kamui for defense. So woodstyle heavy rods giant shurkien kamui firestyle

[@poodie3887]

The paths are only slightly faster than a half ass sage mode, Obito eclipses their stats causally reacting to kcm2 lvls of speed

[@ZeroFlameX]

@@poodie3887seriously tho. Obito was so strong even Minato thought he was madara and that was when obito was 14. The guy has crazy base stats

[@_Seru_]

And how are those summons going to survive getting hit by a fire style as massive as the one Edo Madara used against an entire army?

[@marlondalli2895]

Obito is the strongest no debate

[@louise.4748]

Golden intro m8

[@Steven-rk3ky]

Insane obito downplay this vid

[@weskintime4177]

Can’t wait to see the next episode of “Accidentally uploading right after Six on the same topic and hard disagreeing Z”.

[@collinleivas9605]

Bad timing, but a great video and one that I agree with. My only question would probably be do you think Obito survived Amatersu with Kamui or Izanagi, I believe in the past you said Kamui but was just curious if you still hold that opinion or if it's changed. Edit: Keep up the good work!

[@ThunderGodTG]

Kamui for sure if anything I feel more strongly about it, appreciate the watch! 🫡🔥

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@ThunderGodTG TG if Obito used Kamui to survive it then how were his clothes unscathed? Izanagi seems to be the better bet.

[@ThunderGodTG]

Amaterasu do be taking long af to actually burn, crazy how the Samurai armor wasn’t eaten through before Kankuro got to it, or how it didn’t eat through Karin’s clothing to her body immediately, or the Raikage’s chakra armor, or Naruto’s Kyuubi Chakra. All of these taking time to actually eat through meaning Obito is just faster than the Amaterasu can burn which isn’t actually that crazy of feat in the grand scheme, most people can’t do anything when Amaterasu is on them so it’s not that relevant except in this hyper specific example.

[@ZeroFlameX]

@@ThunderGodTG THIS!!!

[@hotfunyunsop6196]

Its wild theres natuto youtubers in the community that still push Itachi was the strongest member agenda. Theres a youtuber i found the other day whos channel is almost nothing but itachi glaze in 2024 💀

[@DarkWorldxo]

Great video

[@c-jay2042]

We must uphold the agenda at all costs

[@ObitoUchiha38200]

My G.O.A.T Obito yeaaaah

[@Monk-c8b]

I’d go as far as to say Obito was also fatigued during the fight against Minato. I mean having the full Nine tails under genjutsu for an extended period of time has to be chakra consuming.

[@matthewallen4609]

tg should heart this comment

[@ThunderGodTG]

🫡🫡

[@cammy8208]

Let’s be honest here, Obito was neither the strongest (Pain) or the smartest (Itachi). He is very strong yes but he was never the strongest, what made him a threat was not his strength but his insane intrigue and mystery, he called himself “Madara” and had the Sharingan. He infiltrated the Akatsuki and gained massive influence based on using others and only stepping in when necessary. It’s why he hid from the other Akatsuki members particularly Itachi because he knew he wasn’t the real Madara and didn’t want Itachi to know that, it’s why he also waited until Pain died until he took leadership in the Akaktsuki because it’s quite obvious he was never the strongest.

[@QGUU]

He’s the strongest

[@_Seru_]

"Took leadership"? Funny. He was always the leader, Pain LITERALLY took orders from him and didn't dare to question them. Pain was nothing more than a pawn. And yes, Obito was the number one.

[@gamemastery3532]

Will yoy make videos of others Anime/Manga like Dragon ball,Bleach,One piece,JJK

[@ExoticZah]

15:50 Thunder God I told you it was a pipe! You gas lit me that day lol jk I enjoyed this video. I never knew Obito unlocked the black rods when Rin died. So technically we’re both right in a way.

[@ajayimoses2495]

Bro went 2 for 2 against six 😂 This is crazy

[@Black_Guy]

I think Obito is the strongest as well. I think that's the reason he was the puppet master of the entire Akatsuki. That's the symbolism. But I think the power debate in the Akatsuki is intentionally ambiguous. Kishimoto wanted Obito, Pain, and Itachi to be in the same tier, and to make the order of power ambiguous as a show of generosity to the fans. He didn't want to let down fans of one or the other, and he didn't want to play favorites. Because the characters are beloved, it was a great way to stimulate debate and keep the alive.

[@dalcedarry8863]

That's right, after all kamui it the most OP ability in Naruto, Shisui Genjustu come after Kamui.

[@jaredsimpson4701]

Man out here trying to get pulled up on with his timing. When's the Mewtwo vid huh

[@ThunderGodTG]

It actually is done pretty much done hoping to drop it soon

[@jaredsimpson4701]

@@ThunderGodTG best news i've heard all year

[@dragonknight1560]

LIKE... Obito is insanely OP. I am strongly like "What was Six even talking about when he said Obito isn't that strong and rather weak without Kamui" and like "Bro, he was able to Genjutsu a Jinchuuriki once and had him like a sock puppet". The greatest problem for him to be the strongest is Pain (or Itachi if you think about it) but I feel like the times he does boast himself or others in a taunting way; Obito might have a solution for such foes. He had that second Sharingan for Izanagi in case he would die... IN CASE. So in case Itachi or even Pain would betray him; he would have a way to flex and beat them. He even thought of the possibility that Pain could have been defeated so it says a lot that he had a plan to deal with "God". Obito is frightening. I enjoyed this.

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

He absorbs one Pain he is dead

[@MAD-kn3rb]

Six gonna make a counter vid

[@caleb3639]

na óbito is seriously one of the strongest pre 6p shinobi

[@davonbridgett9671]

So young to go h2h with Hokage Minato

[@ty90life72]

Please correct me if im being stupid, but since obito has both hashirama cells and uchiha blood, why didnt he awake the rennigan? Is it because hes not a reincarnation of the brother?

[@ThunderGodTG]

He just wasn’t given enough time Madara only awakened the Rinnegan toward the end of his life span as an old man which also was prob influenced via him connecting to the God Tree.

[@samueljackson3512]

" Who called? " - Itachi

[@thatonezeldaguy250]

Obito is indeed the strongest in the akatsuki 😏

[@ExoticZah]

Pain>Obito>Itachi SixFromTokyo confirmed my statement in his video too.

[@Professor_Fiction]

Let’s GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@imhawkz]

Scaling aint spicy enough TG. The room temp arguments are not hitting. Obito catching Itachi's fade. No way mfs believe in this fraud.

[@ThunderGodTG]

You know what that $5 kinda convinced me that I forgot about that Portuguese scan saying Itachi > Obito 🫡 jokes aside appreciate the dono big time bro 🔥

[@braxton2089]

can we get a specific vid on obito vs pain?

[@ROEb0t17]

Good video and you made some good points. However, as resident obito hater i have to point out a couple of misgivings and nitpicks. For starters, the comparisons too minato seems to be reaching in a lot of ways. While i do believe they were relative in that battle, minato shaking his arm to escape obitos grip does not indicate obito is physically as strong or stronger than minato. I have met people with very good grip strength that are overall physically weaker than myself. Nonetheless i did mention that i believe that obito and minato were relative in that battle but the issue is that minato has next to no concrete physical might feats. While that sounds outrageous, if you look into it, he battles obito (who we're scaling so we can't use that), the raikage who he fought was a jounin and the level of durability of his lighting vloak is unknown, ( especially as we see that lightning cloak durability can vary with the third requiring a rasenshuriken to be breached while the 4th required a chidori), the kick he took from madara blew him back. Saying he's physically strong because he didn't pop like a balloon seems illogical as even with overwhelming power relative to their opponents sp madara, and jubito didn't pop people like water balloons with their non jutsu aided punches or kicks. The only characters who did that in the series are tsunade and 8 gates gai. It'd be one thing if minato blocked the kick and was blown back a bit, maybe then it could be used for his physical scaling but he was blown away. He could have had internal damage but being an edo he doesn't bleed and it would fix itself without a visual confirmation. And finally, scaling minato halting 1/2 of the nine tails claw seems a bit esoteric as a number of the 9 tails other claws had already hit the ground and could've contributed to arresting it's finger's lunge. I have some other points but their just more nitpicks. Jokes aside good video but pain >obito

[@ThunderGodTG]

The Obito grip example would work if we didn’t see Obito physically restrain Minato again via swinging his right arm with that force being what makes the chains go tight. So we know consistently he should be physically stronger, I actually don’t really care about SM Minato surviving the Madara stuff that’s just some perspective you can easily say Madara held back to hit Minato into the fighters working to stop him. The way the claws are structured it seems to be the index or or middle finger which are longer than the others so the feat should still fit since it would hit first, like if you jab someone with your palm flat your longer fingers are gonna hit first with the rest following which would then slow down the strike. Just my 2 cents on what was said glad you enjoyed.

[@dylanb1812]

@sixfromtokyo bout to blow a gasket

[@insanemakaioshin]

Given the Akatsuki was technically Nagato and Konan’s organization, it should be disbanded when they leave, so only pre-rinnegan feats should be counted. That’s why it could be argued that Nagato is stronger than that. Minato statements are not more important than feats. Pre-rinnegan Obito has never shown using 6 paths abilities or wood style w/o the swirl Zetsu boosting him before obtaining the rinnegan. Furthermore, Tsunade said that Naruto was stronger than Minato upon mastering Sage Mode. Obito struggled against Minato, but Nagato held his own against Naruto and would have won if Kurama didn’t take over.

[@maku3857]

It's time

[@rightmunted7538]

That's right we have problems bro, don't come near central Mongolia.

[@gabedavis4458]

Did Madara have a Karma marking from someone to have the ability to pass on "Black Zetsu" onto a random "White Zetsu"?

[@joshualymon3243]

WWW VID, i personally think (Orange Mask) Obito is (Kurama Mode) Naruto fighter, if not extremely high on the tier (Nine-Tailes Chakra Mode) Naruto. His speed shouldn't change from having a Rinnegan, but there's a lot of statements which basically contradicts him on that tier. Him saying Itachi would give him trouble, Itachi is around (Eternal Mangkeyo Sharingan) Sasuke who just is no where near (Kurama Mode) Naruto. But his Fireball Jutsu should still be compared to Madara, he should physically be able to keep up with (Kurama Mode) Naruto level fighters and is top 3 when discussing (Nine-Tails Chakra Mode) Naruto's tier like Sasuke, Itachi, Nagato, etc.

[@jwall1646]

Nah we know about the top three enough. Do a vid on the bottom three of the Akatsuki. The fellas that bring up the rear.

[@kingdommccoy]

Pain Itachi Obito

[@yukotrey9422]

Seems legit. I thought about this a couple years ago honestly, from like the death of Minato to idk late shippuden, obito was the strongest person alive depending how you scale the big 3 of the akatsuki. Makes you think if he got his hands dirtier more, who would of stopped him? 🤔

[@arsenewenger4847]

Obito doesn’t have a single win con against Pain. Shinra Tensei would counter Kamui as soon as Obito attempts to teleport Pain. As for Itachi, Obito himself thinks Itachi can kill him.

[@rterrell641]

So what konin almost killed him with prep time. Itachi being able to kill him with prep time isn't anything crazy. Obitos win cons. His scaling has a higher ceiling than pain as in physical stats speed strength. Genjustu and had knowledge on the pains

[@bloster_ant]

He literally never said that. All he said was that if Itachi knew more about him he could’ve killed him. Yeah, NO SHIT. You give any talented ninja intel and prep time and you bet your ass they’ll come up with a way to take you down. Hell, Konan almost did and she had been observing Obito for years. Obito’s win con is kamuiing the animal path, then killing the animal path in Kamui. Then the rest can be picked off cause they can’t be reverse summoned. Deva path is his biggest threat for sure, but intangibility can essentially negate most if not all of its attacks.

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@bloster_ant 1- Deva Path would shinra tensei Obito as soon as he attempts to Kamui him. 2- Obito would be open to attack from the other paths as soon as he tries to warp one away as he has to materialize. 3- Itachi would use exploding shadow clones as soon as Obito tries to warp him. Similar to how Konan used paper bombs when Obito initially tried to warp her. 4- Itachi also has the Amaterasu to use on Obito as soon as he materializes. Orange Mask Obito has no AP. All he has is the kamui warp which has multiple counters. His only chance against Itachi or Pain is try to to catch them off guard with Izanagi.

[@hammelbear749]

so he shinra tenseis after he materialized uh oh! obito can’t immediately kamui anymore!?

[@arsenewenger4847]

@@hammelbear749 Well Obito dies if he takes a shinra tensei point blank or at least gets severely damaged.

[@helly9015]

If you mean orange mask version when he was in the akatsuki hes the 3rd strongest behind itachi and pain, he literally couldnt beat kakashi 1 vs 1 in the war arc, yall smoking something...

[@ThunderGodTG]

Kakashi war arc is cooking akatsuki pain / Itachi

[@nathannix3217]

Obito let Kakashi win to get rid of the tag

[@AVL64]

I think YM Obito could maybe be stronger than Itachi and Pain but not OM Obito because of his anti-feats of getting tagged by Torune and Konan(even before the ocean of paper bombs). I don’t think it even matters if Obito was taking these fights seriously since kamui is both stated and shown to activate unconsciously to protect Obito. So, I think Torune had to have had an attack that was faster than the activation speed of OM Obito’s kamui or else he would never be able to hit Obito. Obito’s reaction speed is completely irrelevant imo since his combat speed bottleneck is the time it takes for him to re-activate kamui after he tries to attack his opponent. That means that Itachi should be able hit him with ameterasu as soon as OM Obito tries to attack him since Itachi’s ameterasu was also shown to be faster than OM Obito’s kamui activation speed. I also would dispute the claim that OM Obito could use izanagi for 10 minutes. He only needed to use izanagi for a fraction of a second during his fight with Konan as izanagi seems to have the ability to instantly re-spawn it’s user in a different location away from the ocean of paper bombs. As far as Obito’s genjutsu, I would just point out that Obito has only ever used genjutsu in 2 fights and it was to control the nine tails and against an 8 year old Itachi and a bunch of fodder shinobi that he was with(and they did surprisingly well against his genjutsu which is also a bit of an anti-feat if you ask me). But, we shouldn’t even expect him to try to use genjutsu in any matchup that he’s in as it’s simply out of character for him to do so. As far as explaining why YM Obito might be stronger than OM Obito, I would simply point out that OM Obito had been using his MS for 16 more years than YM Obito and that might have caused his vision and eye prowess to decline a bit. Couple that with OM Obito having worse feats and it just makes sense to say that YM Obito is stronger if you ask me lol

[@ThunderGodTG]

Konan only tagged Obito when he attempted to warp himself (which is his slowest speed) compared to phasing or warping someone else. It’s very easy to dismiss Obito vs Fuu and Torune as Obito most likely not just giving it his all as the opponents didn’t require it. I’m not a fan of this logic since it’d also mean Pain has the anti feat of being ~ to Base Naruto due to their clashes. There’s no real substance to YM > OM imo as by that same logic Obito has 16 Years to just get stronger with Izanagi added to his arsenal. It’s much more consistent to have them as ~

[@maku3857]

​@@ThunderGodTG my only question would be wouldn't the level of strength kakashi has directly affect kami ,he was just having a all out fight with Sasuke

[@ThunderGodTG]

Nah using a Jutsu once doesn’t mean you can use it again with the same potency. There’s a cap out limit on the chakra you can use for certain Jutsu. Like using 1 Raikiri doesn’t mean the next one will be weaker since Kakashi’s limit is multiple beyond that with the Raikiri capping out at a certain point. The fact Kakashi was prepared to do it again speak pretty soundly to the fact that this Kamui does scale to the previous version

[@AVL64]

@@ThunderGodTG I think Obito being tagged by Torune is different than Pain being blitzed by base Naruto because Obito’s kamui protects him just as much even if he’s not trying very hard and even if he’s completely caught off guard. This is evident by the fact that YM Obito was almost fast enough to defend against Minato’s FTG lvl 2 and Minato’s FTG lvl 2 is stated in the databook to be a sneak attack. So, YM Obito was almost fast enough to defend against FTG while being caught off guard. In contrast, OM Obito’s unconscious kamui couldn’t even defend against Itachi’s planted ameterasu or Fu and Torune’s combo attack. So, YM Obito should have a faster kamui than OM Obito based on that. You’re right about the Konan thing not being an anti-feat tho. I misremembered how that fight went lol

[@marwyn8152]

OM can't use six paths shadow light style. You need six paths powers to use six paths abilities... if it wasn't obvious enough. Otherwise, him and Rinnegan Obito would be right beside each other in powerscaling, which would make no sense unless you agree blind sick no medicine Itachi could compete with WM Obito. And i'm guessing you don't. Why do you think he even has a metal rod? Because he couldn't use a black rod in the first place.

[@ThunderGodTG]

Six Paths is a result Uchiha + Senju blending together he 100% can. Madara supplements this by teaching him Inton & Yinton further which Obito later applies onto his TSO orbs to nullify ninjutsu. You can have access to a six paths ability without being actually having the Ten Tails or being gifted them, Madara awakening the Rinnegan is an example of this with him gaining the same abilities & having six paths blossom though out his body as a result - via Uchiha + Senju = Rinnegan Idk why Rinnegan Obito is in the convo, he has the Rinnegan Abilities + the Outer Path which is what was required for the Edo Jin. He just has far more additional prowess ofc he’s stronger. I also don’t know why Itachi is in the convo his best feat is planting a trap on an off Guard Materialized Obito who uses Kamui on it. You completely skipped over the explanation with no actual reason he doesn’t have it other than “he doesn’t have six paths” - he used the rod due to not having the ability to use the black rod on that side it was pretty evident. Idk why the dude Minato says you need to master the nine tails power to put yourself a tier above is not at these high strength levels or why it’s inconsistent.