The Suffragettes

[@oasis6767]

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[@mfm_editz8295]

Nope

[@lilazi420]

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[@yvonnewilkinson7796]

So proud that New Zealand was the first country for votes for women. We may be a small country but have a big heart

[@camt9967]

You do indeed. Quietly first in many social issues.

[@francescaboswell9611]

@EJT lol Go Britain!!!! 😂😂

[@Unborn-Stillborn]

And one of the most racist countries iv ever been to. I had no idea there was such hate between white and Maori..

[@_q-xt5cx]

I went to New Zealand and experienced extreme racism, I will never tell anyone to visit it was terrible.

[@jamber671]

I agree with the above, It’s terrible there and I dont recommend going

[@cody6111]

This has over 100k vies from being used in schools 100%

[@FuneralFeastArt]

Anyone else here for exam "revision"?

[@SuperReachfreak]

+OddGonzo assignment actually :') managed to get 4+ pages of notes on just this video

[@aidzumo2760]

+OddGonzo yup

[@msbrownie8248]

OddGonzo me i have a history exam tomorrow

[@sevenblueprints5276]

I'm Irrelevant same here

[@bizyt]

same

[@Swampbomb]

Anyone else here for online school? Nvm ima just whatch dr stone

[@harveybailey3965]

Yeah

[@thevoiceofhistory8664]

yh

[@lunarpunk2380]

@ Mrs. Thompson’s AP EURO

[@PumPumPat]

yessir

[@galawhites5499]

International Women's Day today 8 March 2022 My thoughts, gratitutide and admiration go to all those incredibly fierce and brave Women who fought, went through torture and died for the Liberation of Women. Thank you to all of you!

[@Janoostrom]

Thanks for posting this docu. We should never forget our history

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid!

[@user-zv9no2my6j]

some are here for school, which is amazing. sadly, the country I'm from in mid europe, not once in any school or study place the word feminism or suffragette was used, ever, not once came such a word out of any teachers mouth. an absolute atrocity! what kind of school system is that...

[@bigmanrufer]

mad that

[@SurrealisticSlumbers]

And what country would that be?

[@rhiandouglas1211]

i love the action of the suffragettes and how hard working they were. i would be a suffragette if i could but women can vote. Saudi Arabia women still can not vote and it has been nearly a hundred years. come on women we can do it! fight! i look up to you Emmeline Pankhurst! thank you

[@oasis6767]

+Rhian Douglas You make an important point, Rhian. For women in the west, the battle is largely won in terms of legal, political and financial equality, but in so many other parts of the world the battle is only just beginning. You seem enthusiastic - why not find ways to help them?

[@matiassebastian5807]

+Dr Alan Brown I don't think she'd do anything, anyone can feel inspired by watching a video or a movie, but after that, they'll simply go back to their life and the next day they'd rather forget about it, so her enthusiasm probably lasted a day, because a person has to be really crazy to think they can change the world.

[@rhiandouglas1211]

I think you are wrong, nearly a month and i'm still enthusiastic about it, i've even done some more research about it and am putting together an organisation for women rights. I don't care if i'm crazy, at least i'm trying to change the world. :p

[@matiassebastian5807]

whenever you have that organization ready and a website with your name on it, let me know, I'd like to check it out. And when I said you gotta be crazy for that I meant that the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.

[@guitarlover302]

Excellent documentary ! Pity more people don't vote instead of being apathetic - need to see what women went through to gain the vote

[@oasis6767]

guitarlover302 Thank you, and I agree.

[@chrisroger8774]

I Vote in1992 but girl nxt Door Just Rip up her polling Card

[@Chill-gf1nc]

new lockdown. here for online school

[@oasis6767]

All things must pass, Theo. Good luck with your studies.

[@oasis6767]

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[@lonesomerhodes8564]

Man, I love your posts!

[@pvinmen1612]

Happy to see this-I feel that those who support womans rights will remember what many who pushed them by, some strongly than others and still some require rights in countries-this can be looked at as a stage in womans rights,thanks❤👌

[@julievanberkel3058]

Amazing women,defining times. We owe them a debt of gratitude.

[@miakaal]

Shouldn't be forgotten that they were only asking for well to do women get the vote. Pankhurst and her class. The working class women of the campaign were supporting that unselfishly.

[@oasis6767]

Bazil Bedazzil It's a point that is _often_ forgotten, Bazil. This was no great battle for the 'sisterhood'. Pankhurst and her group were demanding the vote on the same terms as men, and that was only the upper two-thirds of the adult male population.

[@PraiseMedusa]

Is that why thousands of rape kits sit unprocessed & abusers not prosecuted? Because we now have it so good.

[@beeflovers8287]

Bazil Bedazzil unbelievable really when you think about it

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

Correct.

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

@@PraiseMedusa - Jut like the 90+% of workplace deaths being men and 4 out of 5 suicides being men.

[@ellamaib3508]

1.14 I mean a bit off topic but look at that wonderful British weather 😂

[@littlecherryful]

I would love to own an original votes for women pin from that era . Beautifully made documentary. It was suffragette movement that got me interested in history when I was little .

[@vbtktr]

very touching documentry, after watching the documentry "Scandalous women of 19th century" very sensitive. thanx for uploading

[@oasis6767]

vbtktr Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@mirlindahyseni1433]

I'm glad we chose the second woman for President in just 16 years of indepedence in my country

[@leanneblake4248]

Thank you once again Tony . Much appreciated . It is amazing really that in 1902 Australia was the 1st Country that allowed Women to vote and also at a federal level. Considering that in 1901 Australia had just celebrated Confederation.

[@Elliectrify]

New Zealand was first 1893 ;)

[@leanneblake4248]

Elliectrify Sorry, you are correct. And I should know that , my great- grandmother was born in New Zealand in 1893. And her daughter my beloved Grandma Ruth was born in 1921 in NZ , and she was a women before her time. she was a fantastic , a scream . Thanks I knew Aus. & NZ. were the leaders for women's right's. . Thanks again. take care. : )

[@CactusSkeleton]

It’s 125 years since the women’s vote in New Zealand 💚

[@penbur7749]

I never actually learnt about any of this at school, I switched school at the wrong time and completely missed it, so films like this I find really helpful, Thank you Alan. If anyone can suggest any good websites to check out in relation to the Suffragette movement I would be really grateful if you could post them below for me

[@cerilove4068]

Thank you very much for your documentary on Sophia Duleep Singh. Brilliant! Never knew she existed but I do now & will pass it on especially to friends with young children or who have contact with children & young people.

[@niamhpell4035]

thank you my son watched this and learned alot

[@LilFoxyCosplay]

Learnt about the suffragettes at school...force feeding was shown in a video a lot of people gagged It was also done through the nose as it was considered too easy to bite and also the gag reflex I saw the notes one person described saying they felt "great pain in the throat and breast" There was a risk of the tube going to the lungs as well One highborn wasn't force fed because she had a heart condition she later disguised herself as working class was arrested again and force fed

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

Yes, you might want to consider the burns received by postal workers inflicted by the Suffragettes!!

[@scouser2010ify]

Amazing what bravery those women showed back then good for them

[@user-zv9no2my6j]

9:36 why are there no board games like this nowadays? this is epic, I wanna play. can somebody pls produce it again? that'd be the coolest, most unboring board game ever!

[@enitanoyejobi2569]

Hello Mr Alan Brown What was the short term significance of the suffragette campaign in bringing about change to the role and status of women in the years 1903-1923. Do you think they played a dramatic role I think the militancy action was the main reason because it attracted a lot of media attention. I dont really see how World war one was the main reason with out their tactics they would have never been able to be noticed in the first place.

[@sleepy_sensei3913]

thank you so much, Dr Brown, for uploading this video. it helped me greatly

[@oasis6767]

+rupali goyal My pleasure, Rupali. Regards - Alan.

[@B673-j1w]

here from a history lesson :)

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

You won't find one here then!!

[@meghanforrest3725]

Who else is hear for history online school

[@danielalazzaroni6207]

Is it possible to have the tapescript of this video? thank you!

[@saritshull3909]

Don’t the colours also symbolise Give Women The Vote (green, white, violet)?

[@agustinagonzaleznunez9513]

awesome research. thanks

[@billybradford]

This is amazing, thank you.

[@jameschagnon7706]

Hello sir, I was wondering if you could provide more information on the source of this video. I have shown it to my 12th Grade world history class, and we were trying to examine this piece for bias, historical perspective, and message. My students would like to know more about where and when this documentary was produced. I understand from the watermark it was a BBC production, but I can;t seem to locate any more information on this particular documentary. Thanks in advance, James Chagnon History/English instructor Springfield Collegiate Institute Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada

[@oasis6767]

+James Chagnon Hello James. It was produced by BBC Parliament (a subsidiary of the BBC which deals with issues of government and politics in Britain) and first broadcast in 2010. Even the BBC website itself does not credit the director, although the producer appears at the end of the film credits. It was made for the BBC History of the World season 5 years ago.

[@belindabrown4011]

Here is a really well researched source of information mra-uk.co.uk/?p=1943

[@lucysmith1800]

my great great grandad was Thorley Smith - Wigans Labour mp in the time of the suffragettes and he was the first mp to agree with the movement :)

[@heartsfromcaitlin]

Hello there I'm here for homeschooling 😃👍

[@oasis6767]

As indeed are many others! Good luck with your studies.

[@marsiepan]

OMG I AM TOO AND THE WILBUR SOOT PFP!!!

[@lightseeker6762]

God Bless these women 🙏

[@Black_Magic_Woman]

These are the idols young girls should have. The woman that sadly had to turn a certain way in order to make these men listen by doing actions that men would understand and listen too. Bless them all ! They faught so hard for us

[@datcheesecakeboi6745]

You do realise most women didnt want the right to vote

[@Black_Magic_Woman]

@@datcheesecakeboi6745 were you there? Or are you a time traveler?

[@pieynot9084]

@@Black_Magic_Woman You weren't there either?

[@Black_Magic_Woman]

@@pieynot9084 No I wasn't. But my foremother's were apart of the movement here in NZ . What's up with people being so God damn imperious these days ? Can't say one thing without someone being condescending

[@billburr5881]

It is interesting to compare this campaign with those of the early Labour movement which was happening around the same time. The middleclass suffragists were outraged at their treatment by the police and prisons - rough handling by the police and forced feeding of hunger strikers in prison. Well what happened to the working class labour movement? Their protests were met with armed soldiers and police (e.g. the South Wales steel strikes) and about 10 male strikers were killed. Also males who breached prison discipline (e.g. staging a hunger strike) could expect a flogging. Odd how the suffragettes never demanded equality in these matters!

[@mikkilafleur5713]

Class division has always been insidious

[@kysmarcy]

“Men beat men so women should prostrate themselves and ask to men to beat them”. The Y chromosome at its finest

[@billburr5881]

@@kysmarcy If they want equality - yes. The trouble with femunists is that they only want equality when it benefits them, never when it would be a detriment! e.g. the ERA! As I state male prisoners who breached prison discipline would be flogged. It was only made illegal in 1949! It was illegal to flog women prisoners in 1826! But women are oppressed!

[@LanguageUnlimited]

Never mentioned that the Suffragette movement basically came from the anarchist movement and the violent protest was a variation of anarchist 'propaganda of the deed'. Emma Goldman rules!

[@Soldier957]

Can this be trusted? How about other BBC docs?

[@amazingcurves]

What year was this made?

[@oasis6767]

In 2010, I think.

[@truthhitman7473]

Where were these women when racism was attacking black women and their children ?

[@bradwalton3977]

0:16 -- Roy Hattersley: "The suffragettes are the only protest movement in the history of Great Britain that have actually succeeded by violence." You have got to be kidding me. Does the word 'oversimplification" mean anything to you? The struggle for female suffrage was an incredibly complicated movement, playing itself out all over England from about 1860 to 1918. The role which violence played (during a brief period from 1908-1914), and what it achieved, is not at all obvious. You can make a much more convincing argument that the massive violence and slaughter of World War I, women's contribution to the war effort, and the parliamentary finesse of the NUWSS, was far more effective in getting women the vote, than any of the amateur violence practiced by the WSPU. it can be argued, in addition, that the violence of the WSPU did women's suffrage more harm than good.

[@oasis6767]

Good assessment, Brad. Had the Great War not disrupted the movement, the violent actions of the WSPU would have continued to be resisted by the Liberal government. Millicent Fawcett's NUWSS held the attention of far more MPs than Pankhurst's radicals.

[@ibrar693]

What a struggle to fight for

[@ninirema4532]

wow very nice

[@josephbellvietnam]

That is why ever woman should vote after what their sister fought and died for. Girl power

[@tomburns2359]

A brilliant documentary - thank you!

[@oasis6767]

+Tom Burns Thanks, Tom!

[@caolinmurphy1447]

shut the front door

[@ameliawhitehead3944]

Hi Alan, i'm just wondering where you got this documentary from? What tv channel it was on, just for referencing on one of my university essays

[@oasis6767]

Hi Amelia. It was on BBC Parliament a very long time ago. There credits are just about all there, but it was broadcast in 2003, if that helps. Regards - Alan.

[@Nounismisation]

Tony, we love you, miss you and thank you.

[@tokfootball7652]

fun fact : you read the comment (now wheres my like)

[@sdpm1004]

why don't people remember the suffragists they where a much bigger organisation and did much more for women's rights

[@elrjames7799]

sdpm100 I presume you're thinking of Charlotte Despard, and you make an excellent point.

[@Sharperthanu1]

+sdpm100 THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.NOWADAYS SUFFRAGETTES ARE CALLED FEMINISTS.

[@belindabrown4011]

Hmmmm your cap locks seems to be stuck again...

[@Mystie01]

11 May 2014. Then the very next year the doors were opened to a flood of those who would take us back to the 7th century for women.

[@ArchieRowland]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH IM LOCKED IN A ROOM HELPPPPP

[@terfteeps]

I wish they’d show this to kids at school instead of the gender nonsense

[@antimatterg]

They do. Source: Shown this in school

[@isidorastojadinovic9144]

The real feminism.

[@beeflovers8287]

This really helped me thank you

[@lisavonwiegen4420]

you know that women learned judo to protect themseleves from the police

[@beeflovers8287]

Keep up the great work

[@athame57]

Everyone should vote!

[@jannick799]

Youre right! let's vote for a man matter with twice as much women in a socity

[@ibtisamhtewek3407]

Are we going to leave it to Sadiq Khan ???????????

[@chokinonashes61]

Tony Benn 😍😍

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[@jackiereynolds2888]

Kindness must have the luxury of civilization. But kindness had to wait for the establishment of civilization through violence. The domain of men and the domain of women. Two domains by way of nature fusing together with two domains by process of mind. It took violence to establish leisure and it took leisure to provide the luxury of thought.

[@scotte9147]

Why so biased... Also, the comment at the end saying women still don't have equal rights is a load of rubbish, if anything they are benefited by universities and jobs because of their gender, this needs to be stopped and because people don't want to be sexist they pick the women over the men despite the fact that the men may be better for the job.

[@UltimateEkaj]

actually it was only in 2015 that women in saudi arabia were given the vote, i would also like to point that to this day there are still many things that women are not allowed to do, such as shopping alone in June (northern Pakistan) and even in the Uk there are many sports facilities that continue to exclude women, for example Scotland's Muirfield. but yeah sure, poor you right?

[@himmatsidhu9672]

actually Muirfields is abolishing that rule. I admit that in some countries, women are not equal, however if you look at the facts, it is clear to see that women in western societies are equal.

[@ninirema4532]

sweet good luck

[@dragoninthewest1]

Like if you're here for a college course. Comment which course.

[@roneyroshid40]

anyone here beacuse of their English teacher

[@BoudicaJ]

I REALLY get annoyed with people, and it's usually women, telling me I must vote. I will vote, if I choose to. It's no one else's business whether I do,or not.

[@oasis6767]

+sugarkaneandchloe I suppose the only reasonable argument for voting is that when people vote less and less often, eventually a government will come to power that will say "Well, if they don't want to vote, they won't complain when we take it away from them." Once that happens you're into a police state.

[@BoudicaJ]

+Dr Alan Brown I have to agree...it's not the voting, per se, that I object to...it's the being told I ABSOLUTELY MUST!!! or I am letting the Suffragettes down etc. No,that's nothing to do with my right to vote. I do not accept that smashing windows *gave* me the right to vote. It's far more complex than that...( I only mentioned it as some lady above in this doc said the very thing that drives me in-sane) ...

[@BoudicaJ]

+Dr Alan Brown To try and clarify my earlier comment ( as when I read it back,it seemed as if I didn't understand their motives at all) I am totally down with their struggle. However, I think the Suffragettes (as opposed to the Suffragists in this instance) weren't particularly helpful.

[@oasis6767]

sugarkaneandchloe I see your point now, sorry for the misunderstanding. I agree that the WSPU (the Suffragettes) were probably more of a hindrance than a help, yet it is Pankhurst rather than Millicent Fawcett who gets most of the credit. In my view, Fawcett was the better politician.

[@BoudicaJ]

(The misunderstanding was my fault totally) x And yes,I concur...that was what I was trying to say x

[@sadplatinum2039]

*Uhm, i was sent here by my history teacher but this is long* *Ive watched longer but im not very interested*

[@marsiepan]

SAME-

[@sapipaman5596]

Suffregettes? More like B O R E R A G N A R O K

[@Dragon43ish]

...you must dig down deep though all the lies......to find the truth....

[@kittycutetastic]

Well what do you know they held their meeting on 10th of October 1903.....

[@diydiva3190]

Women don't have full equality? We do in the U.S. what differs in Britain?

[@hangfire5944]

This is from a while ago. Many things have changed since them and men and women there are now mostly equal

[@antimatterg]

This happened in the 1920s, and I'm fairly confident we have more equality than the USA.

[@olipoulter3074]

Hi

[@tpiano1165]

Year 8 online school

[@elisecooper1942]

They were so brave.

[@lindanewman7552]

We females owe a lot to them my great and great great grandmothers were all for womens rights

[@antoniosilvestro2494]

LONG LIVE EQUALITY GLOBALLY.

[@user-il5fo8mc1q]

think im the latest 🤗

[@dms-clips9433]

white for purity ? wtf

[@elrjames7799]

Sheila Hancock: awful.

[@mattnolan5527]

middle class reactionaries

[@guessagainwrongitsstomedy3835]

matt nolan yeah even though some of them were Marxists and many supported fair treatment of working women

[@friedrichengels9216]

matt nolan 🤣

[@Wild_Vegan_Child]

WOW! Now I understand Kellie-Jay Keen a little bit more. She is resurecting the suffragette flag and entire campaign as women are loosing our fundamental rights today. These women paid too high of a price for our rights, they fought very hard and made profound sacrifices for us, we will not just hand over our rights to single sex spaces and sports. May the suffragettes and suffragists rest peacefully in power.

[@Wild_Vegan_Child]

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