The Super Prologue 21 is Sega's Most Interesting Game Console

[@cosmicplays4580]

I love these videos because of how obscure the stuff you show is. It's super cool to see stuff like this.

[@RetroZero64]

@@cosmicplays4580 Thanks!! Hopefully I find some more interesting things to show off

[@DecibelAlex]

Never seen one of these before, thanks for showing it. I've been down the replacement laser rabbit hole once with my saturn and dreamcast. I think I had 10 lasers of each and none were working lol hope you'll get your money back at least

[@RetroZero64]

@@DecibelAlex I already got my refund for them thankfully. Yeah finding replacement lasers really sucks and it's usually like playing the lottery lol. I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@knortn]

Very interesting video! Some Saturn boards have leaky caps. At least one of mine did. After replacing those, it read discs fine again. Same with a PSOne. So while replacing caps is not always the solution for every problem, it might actually help in this case.

[@RetroZero64]

@@knortn I'll definitely look into recapping at least the disk drive and see if that helps. It's weird that 3 different lasers didn't work at all

[@knortn]

@@RetroZero64 could also be an issue with the other pots on the disc drive board being "scratchy". You could try spraying some deoxit on them and then give them a few turns. Mark their positions before doing that. :) I'd definitely also check the caps on the saturn motherboard, while they might not look that bad, they certainly can be, as I had to learn the hard way after trying to diagnose the issue without replacing them first...

[@RetroZero64]

@@knortn awesome thanks for the info!

[@stpworld]

@@RetroZero64I swapped my sega stuff tor the victor versions the jvc sega cd has 2 units in one box so nice.

[@snarkwingduck1302]

Yeah, probably needs a good recap. I would also dump that SCSI hard disk and replace it with a SCSI to SD before it dies.

[@tunkunrunk]

he can buy brand new scsi hdd too , there are dead stocks , you can get a new one for $30

[@RetroZero64]

@tunkunrunk true but a scsi to SD adapter might be better in the long run as it just has less moving parts

[@jnharton]

It's entirely possible the drive might last another decade, you just never know. Most of the time hard drive failures have nothing to do with the actual storage media and possibly not even the read/write heads.

[@tunkunrunk]

@@jnharton I've owned several brand new HDDS who died in less than a months . for years I thought it was the sellers who scammed me , till I discovered it was my power supplies and the way I put them inside the pc case (not mounted , I out them directly in contact with the metallic part of the hdd bay . My girlfriend has a Dell inspiron 1501 released in 2006 , it still has its original 80GB hdd , and it works like a charm

[@Luke_Stoltenberg]

It says "check the changer", probably meaning the disk changer

[@dotcom9601]

Over all great vid

[@dylanherron3963]

Dude... WHAT!? The obscurity that you cover is so sick?

[@RetroZero64]

Thanks!! I always try to find the weird and obscure pieces of hardware most other people don't have access to. I love teaching people about these cool bits of history

[@ENNEN420]

Given the age of some of these songs (I didn't look too deeply), this thing was last updated in the mid to late 2000's.

[@RetroZero64]

@@ENNEN420 yeah I've heard that apparently they were officially supporting these things well into the 2000s and potentially the 2010s but I don't remember the exact year

[@RetroZero64]

Okay so apparently official support ended in 08 but Steve owns one with a service sticker from 2018 so they might have done repairs and things well past that date

[@phrozen755]

Text @4:34 translates to "Please check the changer 01".

[@RetroZero64]

@@phrozen755 ah okay so it's looking for an attached disk changer

[@Megageoe]

Looks like there might be an S-Video port in the back? Also you could probably adjust the overscan on your TV. The "Press Start" and Character portraits are significantly cut for SF.

[@iqraiqra9172]

From London England UK ❤ . My mum bought us every console from master system to every one ever made mega drive Atari jaguar, Atari lynx, Saturn doctor 64, nes ect ect ect ect

[@RetroZero64]

@@iqraiqra9172 That's awesome!! I love being able to go back and experience some of these systems I missed out on when I was younger or that released before I was born 😂 there's lots of awesome stuff out there

[@tunkunrunk]

you were lucky , I guess you are from a wealthy family

[@iqraiqra9172]

@@tunkunrunk yes allhamdolillah my father had his own business

[@tunkunrunk]

@@iqraiqra9172 I want to have mine too , but I"m in my 40's , but as the old saying says : " better late than never"

[@SuperFlashDriver]

Well all I'm going to say is that I hope your family and you continue to use it, play it, archive and preserve whatever is left of those consoles, because 10/20/30 years from now those consoles are going to be collector's/rare items to find and buy, and some consoles are probably going to die off say 40/50 years from now. It's awesome you're able to buy all of that, even my middle class family was only able to afford PS1, PS2, N64, Gamecube, Gameboy Color+Advance+SP, Nintendo DS, DSlite, DSi, 3DS, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo Switch, Xbox 360 S, Xbox One S, and PC.

[@SegaSteve0429]

Finally got this video done I see 😅 I need to do a deep dive video on these sometime. Not too much info out there on these and some of what is is no good.

[@RetroZero64]

@@SegaSteve0429 Sorry if any of the information in the video wasn't accurate in going off what I could find 😂

[@tomlee80]

Never heard of this one. Would love to see if the RGB output works.

[@RetroZero64]

@@tomlee80 unfortunately after translating it seems to be an RGB input. Not sure exactly how that would work but I'll see if I can figure it out

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

Most of them have dead hard drive. Still possible to change it wit a sd2scsi adapter but it doesn’t mean that it works because this machine has a ton of capacitors and if one or more is down it almost over ( except if you know exactly which capacitors and can change it). I know this because I used to have 2 of these. I still have one dead ( some capacitors are dead but I don’t know which and I don’t want to change 80 capacitors…)

[@RetroArcadeGuy]

Buttons malfunctioning might be a wore resistor issue. Digital panels works much like NES controllers. If you press 0 and returns a 9, it's the resistor. I have a technics that I gotta do resistor replacements but been lazy af to do it.

[@RetroZero64]

@@RetroArcadeGuy I'll definitely have to sit down and take this thing completely apart some day. Between that, the disk drive, and backing up the hard drive, it'll probably end up being quite a project 😂

[@podecontarcomigo1634]

Like and Subscribed.

[@RetroZero64]

@@podecontarcomigo1634 thanks I appreciate it!

[@kevinkev1530]

Cool never seen this b4

[@5825-i7s]

What am i looking at? Is this a karaoke machine and sega saturn in one? And does it have the mpeg adapter built in and what about the 4 meg expansion card for games that require additional memory?

[@RetroZero64]

It's a karaoke machine with a Saturn all in one unit. I don't believe it has any sort of add-ons like the ram cart or mpeg adapter since all of the karaoke functions are handled by special hardware

[@robbyrobot3303]

I buy a lot of arcade hardware from Yahoo auctions and I am almost always pleasantly surprised by the condition or status of what I receive. Japanese sellers seem to always err on the side of saying things are junk or in bad shape.

[@RetroZero64]

Yeah to most sellers, even the slightest bit of cosmetic damage can mean it's "junk" which is pretty much the opposite of how people sell things over here

[@SaucyBegger25]

The new lasers you’ve bought are not dead. They are sent out with the anti static safety bridge connected. On the ribbon there is 2 pads that will be bridged with solder. You have to break that connection by removing the solder. Then it will allow the laser to work

[@RetroZero64]

I removed the anti static bridge and the laser does light up a very faint red. Not nearly as much as the old one though

[@DoinThatRag]

Why is the disc drive and controller ports closed by two screws? That would drive me absolutely nuts.

[@supermahmoud]

Probably preventing Karaoke clients from messing with :)

[@RetroZero64]

Yeah it's definitely to prevent people from putting it in Saturn mode during normal use. These were meant for bars and clubs and not peoples homes

[@kahvikissa_]

did you make a backup image of the hdd? not sure if theres anything rare on it but still not a bad idea with such ancient hdds

[@RetroZero64]

@@kahvikissa_ I plan on it! Just need to get the right equipment to dump a scsi drive

[@kahvikissa_]

@@RetroZero64 nice. i hope it goes well

[@dotcom9601]

●Left Hand: This is what your hand looks like. ●Right Hand: This is what your hand looks like *On Drugs*😅😮

[@chavo064]

What??

[@pandnh4]

Seriously wondered why no one else said a thing about that!

[@Monhamd1000]

Sega Saturn but made for karaoke!

[@JohnnySuarez1982]

Can you swap the CD rom with a optical disc emulator?

[@RetroZero64]

@@JohnnySuarez1982 I could but I personally don't really like ODEs. Id rather have a working disk drive

[@JohnnySuarez1982]

@@RetroZero64 F

[@5825-i7s]

Has anyone tried putting a terra onion in this machine yet might be a great way to get around cd laser wear and tear

[@RetroZero64]

There is an ODE that works with prologues but I'm not sure off the top of my head which one it is

[@deckofcards87]

Looks a bit like a laserdisc player. Reminds me of Pioneer's karaoke LD models. I've literally never seen one of these... Cool...

[@RetroZero64]

@@deckofcards87 pioneer actually made a laserdisc player with a Sega Genesis built in called the LaserActive. Id love to get one of those to put on a stereo rack with this and the Wii u karaoke machine.

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

Yeah like a 32-bit Laser Active! This is really cool, now I wonder if there was a Dreamcast version too?

[@RetroZero64]

As far as I know, the Dreamcast had a karaoke add-on but never got anything for commercial use like this. The only consoles I know of with full commercial karaoke machines are the Wii U, Saturn, and CD-i

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

@@RetroZero64 Gamecube did for sure

[@RetroZero64]

It did? There was the Panasonic Q but that's not for commercial use like this is

[@chavo064]

Another banger

[@KehHs-l8b]

Bro u don't gotta hype up what's in the box. We seen the thumb lol....speaking of thumbs what's up with your hand you ok

[@paulboissiere1278]

All that and no uppercut. SHORYOKEN!!!

[@monstermug]

Where dud you buy the laser from please?

[@RetroZero64]

I bought one on Aliexpress and one on eBay and both arrived in the same sort of packaging and didn't work

[@monstermug]

@@RetroZero64 thank you. Do you happen to have a spare prologue microphpne ?

[@RetroZero64]

@@monstermug I don't even have an official microphone myself but any 1/4" microphone should work. I personally own this one: a.co/d/9DBZzvz

[@LanceHayabusa]

0:24 living in a world where everything is rare.

[@RetroZero64]

I mean I purposely try and seek out some of the more rare hardware these companies released. Things like these or the Joysound are hard to find even in Japan and extremely hard to find overseas

[@libroscombustibles2616]

IPA and laser assembly... big NONO

[@RetroZero64]

@@libroscombustibles2616 really? I've seen a ton of people cleaning the lens with alcohol and I've personally had it work on multiple different consoles with no issue

[@libroscombustibles2616]

@@RetroZero64 ok. It was a recommendation. Silicone is way better. do as you like

[@RetroZero64]

@@libroscombustibles2616 what product do you use specifically? I wasn't trying to say you were wrong, I was just surprised since I've never heard anyone saying it was bad for it before

[@libroscombustibles2616]

@@RetroZero64 I use a merely anointed swab with silicone ( the one used for car dashboards toma ke em shiny, but use very very little. Make sure you then remove it completely with the other end.

[@libroscombustibles2616]

@@RetroZero64 sas if you were polishing it. IPA can be more hostile to the lens due to h igh volatility and dust sediments can ruin the cristal.. the silicone forces dust particles onto the cotton swab and when you clean it with the other end it's clan and shiny. :D.

[@Shattertry]

Optical media is, indeed, very bad.

[@RetroZero64]

@@Shattertry yeah I always prefer cartridge based systems but for something like this, I'm willing to put in the effort to make it work again

[@COACTUSFECI75]

looks like a dev kit.... i thought i see all sega konsoles in my early years my first was master system and i know all consoles from atari till now... hmmm but this i ll never seen amd iam 49

[@RetroZero64]

You should check out my video on the genesis VCD player too! I bet you've never seen that one before either 😂

[@Thewickedjon]

you should try and mod this as much as possible, like, replace that old mechanical spinning hdd with an ssd, then find the saturn cardtridge slot and put in a saroo.

[@RetroZero64]

I would rather not mod it any more than I have to. I have multiple Saturns for if I actually want to use one, things like this are more to show off at cons and in videos where I'd like to have it as original as possible. The hard drive is definitely something that will need to be replaced with a scsi2sd but I'd rather get the disk drive fixed instead of installing an ODE

[@pandnh4]

Good lord. Wtf happened to your right hand??

[@RetroZero64]

I have eczema. It causes my skin to break out and crack when it gets dry. I recorded this back in February and I didn't have any meds at the time so it was pretty bad

[@pandnh4]

@@RetroZero64 damn dude, well at least lefty was unscathed.

[@vasyapetrov1893]

Japan region

[@Keithmcc]

Bro ....what happened to your hands?

[@RetroZero64]

@@Keithmcc I have eczema and it causes my hands to dry out and crack. I usually have meds to clear it up but I didn't have any at the time I recorded this video

[@RuubRoyce]

That's not a load screen; it's calling you LoRd.