The Synology DS1825+ NAS is a THING!

[@FakeName39]

If i cant put whatever harddrive i want in it without issues, synology will need to reconsider themselves in the consumer market.

[@neilm9400]

Totally agree, I have two 4 disk storage pools that would go into it nicely. Just need better network connectivity. If I need to buy new disks it just makes it so much more expensive an option

[@m.b.117]

I am here for the seagulls

[@MrSunDevil23]

Me too!!!

[@nascompares]

The old, avian coated, studio is still going to be on the channel.. more's the pity!

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

Same! 😂 Today I swear I heard a siren lol. Gotta love the little dudes.

[@hellhole7422]

I was thinking the same thing and just saw your comment 2:00 I heard a few.

[@carlos_mann]

😅 I have always wondered what the inside joke was about the seagulls 😅

[@MarkPickavance]

We can all have a good laugh when it turns up with gigabit Ethernet, eSATA, and 4GB of RAM. Synology doesn't care what its customers want, at all.

[@scytob]

Yup they are great at underwhelming us customers.

[@michaelbauers8800]

I am willing to bet a gizmo that's going to cost over 1k, is 8 bay NAS, will do better than gigabit. But no guess on whether it will be 2.5 or higher. Whether they care what their customers want or not, doesn't market pressure dictate something better than gigabit? Of course I don't know.

[@paulbritton1436]

Sadly, you are probably right

[@Noodles.FreeUkraine]

Whatever "Ryzon" is, one thing is for sure: They will leave no stone unturned and comb the plant from the Mariana Trench to Mount Everest to make absolutely 101% sure they end up with the oldest, least efficient CPU without any gfx unit whatsoever that a vendor will offer them so they don't have to rob museums at night. If there were enough Enigmas to go around from WWII, you can bet the farm they'd slap its mechanics in there. Heck, if they could get away with it, they'd just toss a teaspoon full of sand in there and call it a day. Enough silicon if you ask Synology. Man, I really used to love their stuff, but their hardware choices went from borderline / questionable to full-on ridiculous. At this point, they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[@automatedrussianbot8043]

yes free ukraine, from the west

[@WunderTechTutorials]

Don't break my heart like that, Robbie!! I hope it has a better CPU!

[@cje7004]

Good News Synology fan!!! Syngology is no longer using 12yr old CPUs, they are modernising.... ....with 10yr old CPUs

[@yinchen7835]

And it will be 12yr old CPU soon😂

[@ckenisell]

We need an Intel CPU with Quick Sync for hardware transcoding of 1080p and 4K content on Plex, etc.

[@hateWinVista]

Synology is gonna be Synology, I'd say 4* 1GbE ports with 1 proprietary 10GbE upgrade.

[@501Bakky]

Yes they sucketh!

[@PatrickDKing]

Yup and at thrice the price.

[@scytob]

More likely 4 x 2.5gbe (look at all the cheap 2.5gbe ports) and then we have to pay for 10gbe card we all want.

[@paulbritton1436]

It has that now, just not the proprietary

[@paulbritton1436]

probably 2 x 2.5 gbe

[@scytob]

Good analysis, agree with your assumptions, only way the DS1825+ would get better spec than you speculate is if they replaced the xs+ model at the same time.

[@Terence-mk9jh]

Robbie, I don't think anyone else could make such a nerdy video so entertaining. Yes there are probably not a lot of us that will be genuinely interested in this video but I really enjoyed it. I think you could be right about the two 2.5 Gb ports.

[@PeteBreen]

Love the new studio look! Thank God Synology - about time the 1821 got a refresh.

[@nascompares]

Thanks. The old studio will still be in videos. Creating a new space for 'direct to camera's news/software stuff...hardware still should/will always be in the messy/seagull covered space!

[@MrMoonsilver]

@@nascompares YES! That is awesome news! Love the old studio but also understand the move to the new one. Seagull ridden space ftw!

[@abucketofelves]

Yes, I'm also a big Blockbusters fan!

[@MonstaAU]

If they do not increase specs, then you may as well buy the UGreen DXP8800 Plus once UGreen actually get it listed on Amazon (was promised in June). Can always run TrueNAS or even Xpenology on it.

[@svenasmussen8745]

A good example of competition being good for the consumer, I assume Synology will have to improve their hardware because of this

[@MonstaAU]

@@svenasmussen8745 We can only hope. Or they are going to cede the home/enthusiast/SMB market to everyone else.

[@moogs]

With docker and such synology has become an irrelevant company to me along with their terrible product decisions

[@junior-OG]

or unraid 😃

[@MonstaAU]

@@junior-OG Or many other software solutions. UGreen has a long way to go with their OS, but there are others we can use. The difference with UGreen is that they are putting some real hardware in product and not locking the hardware down so consumers have a real choice. It will force the two big guys to do better, or walk away from the Home/Enthusiast/SMB part of the market.

[@tofu_golem]

I grew up on military bases, so grew up moving constantly. Anytime we lived anywhere near the sea, there were seagulls. If you live near a big city that is not near the sea, let me explain: seagulls are basically larger, louder, more obnoxious pigeons. Whatever you're imagining, it's worse. What blows my mind is that we get seagulls in Chicago. I live in a suburb that is a good 40 minute drive from lake Michigan, and we have them around here.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

There's no sea/lake near where I live, still see the winged rats occasionally. Must be a landfill that's about 20 klicks away that attracts them

[@IntoxicatedVortex]

In principle the Plus series and higher should probably come with 2.5GbE. However, I sort of wonder if in practice it'll change much. The reason is that if throughput were important, we are talking about an 8-bay, and link aggregation (either way you do it) won't increase throughput to a single device the switch to 2.5GbE doesn't change a lot for that buyer as they'd go 10GbE instead. For instance, my RS1221+ has 2 x 10GbE (link aggregated) in it because I want to maximise the value of my 8 x 4TB SSDs. I'm also implemented on UniFi and to get 2.5GbE I would need to go with either Enterprise or Pro Max switches. Its simpler and cheaper to dish out for a Aggregation switch and a card for the NAS, which is what I've done, that go top end on the switch. Generally speaking I feel 2.5GbE is much more meaningful to a different type/level of buyer. Idk, maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

[@Ultrajamz]

If they want a real winner 1 10Gbe, 1 2.5Gbe and 1-2 1 Gbe ports.

[@ckckck12]

10gb can run slower. 4x10gb is what's up

[@PatrickDKing]

I think the 1823xs+ was the refresh but they mucked it up with that hard drive drama. I finally own three of the 1821+ and I can't see any value in any future refresh unless the processor is vastly upgraded and 10gb ports coming standard and no hard drive compatibility dramas.

[@gaidin]

The timeline here in the 18xx series really highlights how Synology have little appetite or interest to play in the consumer space anymore at the larger scale.

[@rontronnesjr]

Thanks for sharing - I ABSOLUTELY LOVE my DS1019+ (deducted PLEX server) and have been looking for a replacement. Something highly expandable and has the same powerful processing with hardware transcoding.

[@GOAP68]

Maybe the DS1821+ will final drop below its $1,000 USD disk less price tag. Have been watching them for over a year. Was hoping next week's Amazon Prime days had a discount on them.

[@parl-88]

Hello, loving the Hoodie! Where can I get them? Do you have a shop? I was not able to find one looking on your website. Please help. Thanks.

[@TazzSmk]

9:02 so they'll stick Ryzen 1600 like on 923+/1522+ and proprietary 10Gbe mini slot like on 923+/1522+, simple as that :D

[@jz4551]

I have 1821+ - only reason to change for 1825+ would be procesor WITH hardware transcoding AND at least one 2,5gbit port. Otherwise there is no reason. And one more thing - all my 8x Seagate Ironwolf Pro must work without stupid flase alarms

[@droneforfun5384]

Agree 100%

[@mmrk_]

Do you think they will need to have a better CPU to compete with new products like the ugreen lineup?

[@jasperverkroost]

I don't think it is their intention to compete with startups like UGreen. People who buy Synology choose them because of DSM, the 5-10 years of update support, and the fact that their boxes are very stable and almost indestructable.

[@xellaz]

My DS1621xs+ is still running strong and is much better compared to the later NAS offerings by Synology that limits you of what HDD or RAM you can use that would trigger alerts. I also have no regrets getting both the DXP6800 & DXP8800 NAS'es by UGreen which have much better specs! I've been putting both on some serious loads... Just transferred over 10TB of data and still going in just 5 days. 💪 Streaming my 4K media to my OLED tv via kodi is also smooth af~😘

[@RxZ95sssPG]

Can we take a moment to say how good looking your background is?

[@andrewenglish3810]

The 1825+ will likely require you to use Synology drives ONLY and not allow you use 3rd party, or it will but just show the silly error that the drive is not supported. Having a mult-LAN port on the back up to 10GbE would be nice but that would only drive the price up more for the unit.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

Finally a better sound quality on your videos.

[@NightElff88]

Damn it, my DS1821+ just arrived!

[@nascompares]

Don't worry man. It's still. Great system. Plus, this has zero ETA right now

[@-musiclee-]

@@nascompares return the 1821+, lol

[@danwilson8911]

Yeah I was holding out, and getting really annoyed because my old 18 series is starting to have issues. I am now on the fence since Synology didn't release at the end of the year of moving to the ugreen, so it all comes down now to specs of this refresh

[@syl764]

If there's no new CPU, I won't be upgrading. To be fair, if they don't put a GPU in it, I probably won't be upgrading anyway.

[@popquizzz]

at 4:13 Love those "Copper Netowrk Ports"

[@jasperverkroost]

Would it be possible to stick 4 NVMe bays on the bottom of the 1625+/1825+?

[@levygaming3133]

Space wise, totally. The 1821 is 343mm wide, which is wide enough for 4x 2280 m.2 stuck length wise with 23mm to spare, and so could easily fit 8x m.2 with two rows of those SSDs. I’m pretty sure one way or the other they could even fit 12x m.2 SSDs considering there’s no way that 12x Asustor NAS is larger than a 1821 in any dimension. That said, there’s no shot they’d actually do that though. Hope they do actually meaningfully upgrade the CPU (hopefully an Intel iGPU model) with 4 M.2 slots.

[@paulbritton1436]

Probably not enough lanes available

[@proxgs7703]

nah it would be a waste since you won't have the network bandwidth to transport what those nvme ssd can read/write

[@MrTomo89]

Can we just all acknowledge the commitment and work goes onto these videos dont know of any other channel that covers a topic so well and completely unbiased, making my nas buying much easier credit where its due 👍5️⃣⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

At last, I will be able to replace my trusted 1812+. Hope Shr will be present.

[@hellhole7422]

I just came for the Seagulls... By the way thank you - Still looking to upgrade my DS918+.

[@mvp_kryptonite]

I hope they fix the terrible power supply that slips out when I look at the unit. A better CPU, faster bigger RAM, much faster USB connections and network ports. Until then I’ll just run the 918+ into the ground

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

I'd be happy with even 1x 2.5GbE port to at least get me going, Then later on I can buy the 10GbE add in card. CPU with transcoding capability would be good, But that's just a bonus, I usually run everything on local network and play media through a NUC under tv.

[@Ultrajamz]

Ive got a 5 bay all populated with ext4, been waiting to get a bigger nas and new drives to move over to btrfs! Also next time going to keep all volumes under 20TB so they could all potentially backup to a single archive drive.

[@ckckck12]

OMG I never thought of that

[@tangodown2721]

If they come out with the same CPU with all the competition hitting the market I'll be out for good.

[@sidbrun_]

I can see you've already made space for it given the background

[@feimingau]

I hope Synology can add switch authentication, which is safer. It would be perfect if the switch other than Synology's pop-up warning

[@7rich79]

If this doesn't come with a 10gb interface built-in, it's just not that appealing to me. I'm not too fussed whether that be 10GbE or SFP+, but please don't make me get a proprietary expansion card to make it happen.

[@whya2ndaccount]

I'm sticking with my DS1821+ (2 x 1Gb bonded to a 1Gb switch) until there is a major change to justify buying a new chassis (and purchasing a 48 port, 10Gb switch).

[@carlos_mann]

This video cam out JUST in time. So I am in the process of purchasing the 1821+, populating it with... 5 × 18 tb ironwolf HHD 2 × 1 tb M.2 ssd for caching 2 × 32 gb Memory, (64 gb of Ram) 1 × 10 gb port Or should I just wait for this 2025 release, this is a lot of money I'll be sinking in all at once, so please I am extremely curious to what would be the best idea in your opinion. Primary focus on the Nas, will be for media consumption (mp3 music, mp4 videos, all sorts various camera / phone pix).

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

I'd wait, If you are going all out then you will want the latest, Not a 4 year old product, But up to you of course.

[@carlos_mann]

@@ShaneMcGrath. Well I saw the 1823 XS video Nas Compares did & the 1821+ appeared to have a better value point, at over a thousand dollars more expensive but it was the latest hardware. I guess, how much extra value can be added into the device itself, besides the updated cpu, a faster Memory, etc. I understand there's obviously minor additions but as a overall in general how much faster can you pull up a .mp3 song to play or a video from a phone. A lot of my data are primarily in .mp3 and .mp4 (on average they are maybe 10 mb - 200 mb) per file.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

@@carlos_mann 4 years old though, The thing should be worth peanuts in tech world by now but it's still expensive, At least wait and see if they announce a release and price for the new one and hopefully it really drops a lot in price as they try and empty the stock. I'm running a 5 bay DS 1019+ from 2019 and the amount of times I almost pushed that buy button on 1821+ is a lot, But I'd rather hold out for the new one then I'm good for another 5+ years. Mine is used just for media and game backups and Digital SLR photo's, No problem with music/movies so any NAS newer than it is fine for you by the sounds of it. Maybe with the rumours now we might see some sales soon on the older NAS units, Try and get a good deal then.

[@scytob]

If you can wait, wait. I have a DS1815+ and the backplate just became questionable, I am waiting, I am making sure I have backups of everything important.

[@carlos_mann]

@@ShaneMcGrath. Yeah thats why I have been holding off, at 4 yrs old (in technology) that's a bit outdated. The reason for me considering to make this purchase was being prime day is coming up & I was hoping to find a good price on it. But I think I might wait, I did take notice when he said they usually are available in Q 3 or Q 4, which by that time I should be able to have the extra funds available to just make the extra leap in price.

[@baza3a]

if they made it with the epyc 4004 cpus with DDR5 + 2.5 GBe everyone will jump on it

[@RockTheCage55]

I was hoping for them to switch to the intel N-* series of chips. I have a N-100 micro machine & its a beast at transcoding plex. I have the 1821+ & have already upgraded my to dual SPF+ 10GB. I don't see much in this refresh unless thanks change.

[@levygaming3133]

As much as I love the N100, one slight problem with it is that it only supports single channel memory. While it’d be a metric leap over the Intel 2 and 4 bay models, I have to assume that these embedded Ryzen CPUs have dual channel memory. I think to get proper dual channel memory you have to step up to the Intel Pentium i3 n305. Intels naming scheme is a mess. Also, I think the bottom n100 chips might have less PCIe lanes, which would just exasterbate the issue if true.

[@moogs]

Can’t wait for an over priced under powered NAS that forces me to buy their irrelevant over priced hardware that runs an iteratively better what, R1600 AMD CPU that can’t even transcode? NO THANKS! Goodbye synology

[@andysharpei]

Any corroboration that this was on the site for real and it’s not photoshopped? Seems to me there is no space yet to renew it without either rebadging or clashing with xs

[@penultimatename6677]

Don't mean to change the subject. Why in the US have all the Synology cameras been out of stock for months? No one is talking about this issue.

[@fred6464]

I thought the DS1823xs+ was weak with the throttling NVMe. I was hoping the DS1825+ would be better. What a potential letdown.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Consumer Synology is like Disney Star Wars - you expect them to sink low, but they subvert your expectations, and not in a good way

[@WillJauregui]

this sounds terrible, UGREEN is gonna wipe the floor with them if they get their software right, hardware wise theyre the better option

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

Btw, I absolutely agree with your informed guess of the CPU being the same. It just makes sense for them. It'd be hip and cool if they did change it 😎 See what I did there? 😂 Imagine 1GBe in 2024 when consumer MoBo's offer dual 10GBe on stock. P.S. Love your release times, as I'm always on my way to work and can fully engage in your videos here in California.

[@nascompares]

Hang on..you are in California...beach views all over the shop...lovely bit of sunny weather...and you are watching my video!? Are you INSANE! I'm very flattered, but also...BONKERS

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

@@nascompares haha Yeah, but I live in Death Valley, nothing but desert, where it's 6:43AM and 32.8c outside 😂 I have lived by the beach while attending a military boarding school in high school. Lots of beach and babe views 😂

[@nascompares]

Ahhh..ok *looks out window at Brighton beach, full of stones, cold wind, pissed off seagulls, 2 guys fighting outside a pub and an old lady on a scooter* I do not have the same view as you.....

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

@@nascompares 😂 I'll trade you views for a day! My family is from what they describe as "dreary" Scotland. I absolutely love the scenery and enjoyed my one day of travel to England as a kid when I got on the wrong airplane. Imagine my surprise when my 9 hours flight to New York was a quick 1 hour flight. I was wondering why everyone's accents were so different and people were so polite! 😂

[@norgtube]

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS for what's essentially some plastic, an embedded ryzen from 6 years ago and a couple gigs of ECC sodimms feels like *such* a ripoff.

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

😂😂😂 don’t worry, it’s not for you.

[@tofu_golem]

It's a file server that is much more user-friendly than the real thing. Most of what you're paying for is the excellent software that comes with Synology products. And if the price bothers you, you're certainly free to grab a copy of TruNAS and build your own. I've certainly considered doing exactly that.

[@joelnrs]

It feels like a ripoff if only viewing it from the perspective of individual component cost. In my opinion it’s the software, reliability and the ease of use that make it worth it.

[@Hansen999]

Yep! And add to that they are abandoning their software as well😂 Why would you buy Synology In late 2024?

[@droneforfun5384]

I will not upgrade unless: Hardware transcoding, 2,5g NIC, no stupid alarms for not using Synology’s overpriced harddrives.

[@awesomearizona-dino]

new background for you?? its way better than clutter.

[@nascompares]

Sorry man. The clutter stays! This is recording area #2. The mad clutter background will still be around

[@InspectorGadget2014]

From what I've understood so far, you're most probably not that far off on your predictions. Love to see a follow-up when things are more revealed. I do have to say, sorry for that, it is quite comical to see all the excitement about a, my words, relatively low upgrade of specs. I guess no revolutions but rather an evolution. Or "refresh" using Synology's terms, I guess. Hope I'm wrong in that arena, but than enough breadcrumbs do make a loaf too... I'm asked to have look into the aforementioned 1823XS+, I guess I should not hold in that arena, awaiting DS1825+'s arrival.

[@jasperverkroost]

If you want revolution, you probably have to wait for an all-NVMe NAS, which I am sure Synology will come up with at some point in time.

[@InspectorGadget2014]

@@jasperverkroost I'm sure they eventually will. I do wonder at what market they will aim that (although I do believe I already know that answer, more or less). And, almost equally important, the hardware configuration. Read: CPU, RAM and how many multiple 10GBe's it will have. In my view that would be one of the latest generation of AMD's, minimum 16GB and 2x 10GBe's. (and support for Gen4 NVMe's but I believe that would be logical) However, nowadays Synology's directions seem to be mostly in fog, hard to tell what, when and where. Not so good marketing IMHO, they leave too many existing and future customers from various markets dangling...

[@ajeba98]

I sent an inquiry to them 3 weeks ago and they said no announcements.

[@engineeringVirtue]

We need a 6 core 64gb ram 4x 2.5gbe 8x enterprise drive NAS with transcoding support. It will sell like pancakes. Im fine with synology proprietary hard drives and ram and higher pricing overall. Just give me the unit I want.

[@illyrinia555]

i gave up on synology a long time ago and switched over to Qnap. Qnap just lacks a little behind the OS but has way better hardware. if synology doesnt come out with a better hardware platform than qnap did 5years ago then they should just give up now.

[@danwilson8911]

And now you are caught up in many OS patches due to ransomware crypto concerns, that has always worried me, and the interface is very clunky trying to find things

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

8:14 and I'm driving in my car. Thought a cop was behind me, pulling me over. 😂 Anyone else do a double take in their rear view mirror to what sounds like a faint siren? 🚨 👮 🚨

[@tombouie]

Thks, Synology old/slow but reliable hardware is slowly losing-out on the low-end market to newer up to date hardware (ex: UGreen, etc). Request Synology at-least compete on low-end hardware with the rest of the NAS industry.

[@chriscardwell3495]

At long last . . . some good news from Synology

[@ckckck12]

I had just given up waiting for this and got a super micro with truenas going. I'm glad I did but if this thing comes out with a nice processor with gfx and 2x10gbe built in, I'll be pretty smitten.

[@Yogaslackers]

Does it support SHR?

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

DOA if it doesn't, That might piss people off as much as them trying for 1GbE ports again in 2024. lol

[@paulbritton1436]

Update the chassis A different color at a bare minimum

[@engineeringVirtue]

Interesting in comparison 1823xs vs 1825...

[@christerwiberg1]

I just want a low power cpu that doesn’t use so much power and 2.5 GBe as well as an add in card for sfp+ for fiber or RJ45 for 10 GBe or maybe faster. Guess that for just a file server, the 1500 is enough even for 25 GBe. But please just let us use any WD, Seagate or Toshiba drives 😢

[@RRMIAMI]

Proprietary drives again?

[@vidx9]

Let me guess - 1GbE?

[@elmeromero303]

Syno User from Day One - this brand only stands out from Software side. The Hardware is soo boring. I wish they had the Hardware Mindset of QNAP.

[@paulbritton1436]

And they are scaling back the software Just got rid of the movies, which was one of the main reasons I bought a Nas Yes, I can go to Plex, but I tried that it didn’t work real well

[@ryanmalone2681]

I really don't understand Synology in the home any longer. They've raised their prices so significantlyit makes no sense. For the price of the enclosure, you can build your own, including drives. Their prices are just ridiculous now, especially considering they want you to buy Synology drives and they don't stand behind their hardware even when all the components are Synology officially supported components. Such a rip off.

[@4eyesleo]

Why upgrade to 2.5? The can F their customers at least a couple of years more

[@GrishTech]

New look 👍

[@nascompares]

Don't worry, the old studio will still be around!

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

I like both for sure. One is clean and the other gives confidence in the knowledge base. New Channel name or YT channel though? 🤔

[@richardnpaul_mob]

If you don't disrupt your market yourself someone else will disrupt your market for you 😁 I think that they should go for V3000 series which has dual 10Gb MACs 😁 but who am I kidding? 😂

[@SomeDudeerilodude]

My 1817 has 2x10GBit/s.

[@tomdchi12]

In other words, not much of an upgrade at all, most likely.

[@Ultrajamz]

🚨🚨🚨

[@nascompares]

EXACTLY

[@werecow68]

If this thing is still coming with 1GB ports its as dead as fried chicken IMO.

[@dwight2310]

where muh RS1224+ at?! reeeeeeee

[@KcajOfAllTrades]

👀

[@imopn]

Looks like the same CPUs without good graphics and codecs so useless for Plex

[@whya2ndaccount]

Ah Northern Hemispherist" -- "Autumn" here is March - May. How about using months for a global audience (esp. for those poor uneducated folks who talk about "Fall").

[@aznhomig]

Yet another underspecced and underpowered Synology 8-bay positioned to try to get people to step up to their even more overpriced rackmount units for a reasonable hardware level.

[@WitheredPancake]

Who else here is waiting for a DS925+ or DS425+, with a decent current CPU, a GPU and a >=32GB memory limit?

[@moogs]

Not me cause it will never happen. Not to mention they just release the 24 series in these classes

[@WitheredPancake]

@@moogs I agree they won't as they've just released the 24 series, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants a decent home system somewhere near that price point that I can use as a media server, surveillance station, as well as file server and the spin up the odd docker image (e.g. postgres for development work), without worrying about running out of resources.

[@jasperverkroost]

DS925+ and DS425+ will most likely be DS926+ and DS426+ to be released in 2026.

[@z352kdaf8324]

F synology.

[@andyhey4576]

Wonderfull, thanks a lot man !!

[@nascompares]

No worries. Have a fantastic weekend bud