The Terrifying World of Women's Car Safety

[@coonrat1]

More quality content from my favorite car safety analysis channel

[@andrewmanchiraju8005]

So I took an IB Design tech class and in this class we learned about Ergonomics and how different products are designed. The rule is to generally design for 95% of the population meaning that odds are that if you are either above that or bellow it you won’t be accounted for. This is where you get specialized products and stores. Then you have things like cars where you realize that it becomes increasingly difficult to design for that 95%, and that’s why sometimes you end up using dummies that represent the average. Now that horrifying thing is what represents the average. The government does have data for this but you end up finding out that most of this data represents the average male in the military in the 1940s. Most companies need to go out of their way to conduct their own research on average sizes as the government’s data is rather lacking. First a military build is vastly different from the average man, people are generally taller now, and also women are hardly represented. The issue is a failure to update this data. This actually happened in the 1940s with Military planes as back then the data was from 1926 and what ended up happening was that pilots would crash the planes because their sizes were not matched up to the proper size of the time and planes were designed with data that had been outdated. Overall there is a huge issue with how the US uses the average to design as now we have cars designed only for a particular gender and only for a specific height. I am above the height of the mannequins used thus meaning that cars are not designed with me in mind ( I’m also not even that tall, just around 6’). For women it’s worse and is most definitely a result of there being lacking data for it. Additionally most of these likely aren’t looking at different ethnicities which also has an impact on the size requirements. Overall this issue is a result of outdated data that needs to be updated on a regular basis while also representing the largest amount of people possible.

[@RayHardman7567]

6'2 and very large. Can barely fit in trucks or SUVs made 10 years ago. Not enough head space. And I can't fit in the back at all.

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks for your insight.

[@gamestopholdmusic]

IB like as in international baccalaureate?

[@andrewmanchiraju8005]

@@gamestopholdmusic Yes. Just graduated from it last May.

[@metroidman3893]

You don't think they're just trying to make a quick buck or something do you? That would be insane!

[@Jarino507]

As a 4'11 woman, though not as light as the dummy used more frequently, it's at least somewhat comforting to know the average dummy is pretty close to me, but yikes...5th percentile. That is messed up.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Don't celebrate just jet, "female" dummoes usually do not take into account, how differently placed the center of gravity is in a woman's body so how a crash will impact you will differ at times greatly from the thing they calculated with...

[@Jarino507]

@@SingingSealRiana Yeah, I think I watched a news article about that...

[@SingingSealRiana]

@@Jarino507 it is a big mess

[@animeartist888]

Considering I am both slightly taller and immensely heavier than the female dummy used... yeah, I don't think I trust car safety ratings anymore. Thanks for making me extra afraid for my life in the event of a car crash, Lowart. Yep. Really appreciate knowing I'm more at risk than I thought and there's not a damn thing I can do about it. Love it. Great feeling.

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

This is a problem in testing of all kinds such in medical related things like medication or how to look for symptoms of certain things. The way a female body presents symptom of heart attack are different and more subtle than a male, but most people are only ever taught male symptoms. Same thing for adhd or autism which also presents different symptoms and characteristics between different sexes but generally only male presentation is well known or taught which leads to a lot of missed diagnosis because a girl might be suffering from inattentive adhd but since she’s not hyperactive and was never disruptive in school, she may never get treatment. In summary: uh oh oh no everything sucks

[@PureMaddnessOne]

With autism and ADHD they r still studying things, like with every mental disorder. So even in men you can have some misdiagnosing happening as they still know a little amount aboot it. But i member a autism expert saying that she wanted check for at least a decen autism test for women and if there is a correlation between autism and Gender Dysphoria, although i have spoken with her years ago, idk if she was able 2 do much with either, partly because of government hating ppl with autism and the LGBT. She was 1 of the very few caring ppl i have seen in the government controlled healthcare system we have here. FWY i have a form of autism myself, either have ADD, ADHD and dyslexia. With the heart attacks i do would say they teach the average person it would make sense they teach the easily noticible and most common symptons 1st partly because time and ppl able 2 member things, but ppl in medical field should know more than that.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Also meds for both often only get tested on men for female body chemistry would "muddle" the results. Well they do realise that those mixed result will also effect the later consumers, right?!

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

@@SingingSealRiana yeah I’d rather the pharmaceutical company have muddled results than the consumer

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

@@PureMaddnessOne of course there’s always going to be misdiagnosis for any gender, and we’re still learning all kinds of things about disorders, and not everyone is going to show the stereotypical symptoms associated with their assigned gender at birth, but it doesn’t change the fact there’s an implicit bias in these studies and in your every day doctor that makes it far more likely for those that are AFAB to receive worse care more often. Things seem to be getting better and awareness is rising, but there’s still a long ways to go. And I disagree about this heart attack statement. It’s pretty obvious that someone with chest pains or difficulty breathing needs medical attention. It is more important to teach the every day person the sneakier and less apparent symptoms of heart attacks. People who exhibit those and not the classical chest clutching pain are more likely to write off their symptoms as something else like heartburn or indigestion and are therefore far more likely to die. Teaching people how to look out for more subtle symptoms can save the lives of others and yourself.

[@SingingSealRiana]

@@Shoulderpads-mcgee same, but "we always did it this way, so it is good, no need for this modern bullshit" it astonishes me time and time again how backwords the mentality in many sience peoples head is...

[@mastergame1311]

Wouldn't mind seeing more of this kind of stuff.

[@hexxidelux6224]

As a 200lbs woman with the big booba, I can confirm that seatbelts are not intended for breasts. They cut into your neck. Meanwhile, my father of a larger weight than I can wear seatbelts comfortably because he does not have the big booba. He's just a tall, big dude.

[@eden22.7]

3:50 made me laugh. its extra hilarious when you consider that evil insurance company all agree men are more likely to cause a care crash. thanks for being an ally

[@adrientaylor9840]

I clicked on this extremely fast, nice to see you making videos about things you find cool

[@razi_man]

My girlfriend is 6'2 and has a lot of muscle mass, I'm 5'7 and weight less than 50KG. While I kinda understand your point, genetics are kinda weird and human variance is very huge even among the same sexes, so I really don't think cases like mine and my girlfriend can be accounted for, though I would agree that we need to have more diverse dummy models since humans can vary wildly and I am basically living proof of that.

[@angelortiz4631]

A 6'2 girlfriend?! You living the dream!

[@joalampela8612]

It's true that there should be more testing on many types of human bodies, but if that's not feasible one way or another, at least maximize the baseline test to include most people.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

I love car safety! But this is a weird and random video to put out at this time 😂

[@SingingSealRiana]

It's an imported and infuriating topic

[@Lionwoman]

There's a book that also tackles this issue called Invisible Women. A recomended read but a very frustating one.

[@purehyper124]

I'm glad you're getting this information out to other that don't realize.

[@aortaplatinum]

Ladies and gentlemen: the lethal level bruh moment

[@QBG]

Slick roads can _absolutely_ make you lose control of your vehicle through no fault of your own, regardless of your sex. Maybe there's some subconscious sexism in the wording of the example, but it's certainly not implying that women are just _bad drivers._ I've had my tires slip hard in the rain and cause the car to lurch in the opposite direction of where I was steering. Snow is even worse. I once slid slowly down a snowy hill, inch by inch, with the brakes held fast, spinning around in circles and praying no cars were in the canal-side road at the bottom, finally coming to a stop just a foot or two shy of sliding right into the water. Neither of those things were my fault, and there was nothing I could do to stop them despite being a safe, experienced driver. Why would you think the NHTSA using a woman in their example implies that either women are bad drivers, or men have a magical ability to not crash even when they literally _can't control_ where the vehicle goes? Gotta be the NHTSA's wording. Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be a rant, and I'm not trying to accuse you of internalized misogyny or anything. I just genuinely think you're making a pretty big stretch with your thesis here. Cheers! EDIT - The crash test dummy problem is definitely a huge issue, though, and that definitely does imply the presence of systemic sexism.

[@pamelaguerra3768]

i also thought that the accident he was talking about didn't sound like the driver's fault, like i am sadly always willing to accept an implication that any goberment is aplying misogyny but it just felt weird i didn't really see where he was comming from in that particular case, it's possible that he just chose the wrong example and his impresion comes from having read the ones he didn't chose to share with us but yeah.. i didn't sound like it was implied that there was bad drinving involed for that one in specific

[@candide1065]

@@pamelaguerra3768 Why do you write like someone with brain damage?

[@dahuntre]

Spread the word! Interesting tangent from the usual video lol

[@SingingSealRiana]

Seams random but it is an importent and infuriating topic. People think we are past the need for feminism, equal rights and all, but women still get the shorter end of the stick in so many ways few people seam to be aware of. Like with meds, that only get tested on man, for that's easyer to analyse, but then get sold to everyone despite being completely untested for women.... Despite the biochemistry being very different. Vaccin dosages are calibrated with a male immune system in mind, so they are to high for women....

[@MayaMaya-tj7kw]

Did crash dummies call me far for being 135 lbs

[@thingything]

Thank you for this!!!

[@Rannos22]

Crash safety has made us weak

[@SingingSealRiana]

Sometimes I wished Darwin was right about survival of the fittest ... Darwin award and all

[@mekman4]

Great Stuff!

[@thevoid3010]

I don’t think it’s bad for a small body to be used in general But common Like at least have an average sized woman too And do each test with each dummy in each position. Or at least two average at the drivers seat

[@SingingSealRiana]

there are several problems with the "female" dummies another would be where the center of gravitation is

[@badmintonfan15]

Looking at the background @4:30 I thought to myself that place sure does look familiar, then I notice the sign and see it's Norwegian.

[@neurofunkie]

this might be the most random video I've ever clicked on, thank you lowart

[@metroidman3893]

You don't think the Government is wasting your taxpayer dollars do you Lowart? That would be insane!

[@garak55]

Eh, honestly I dunno if having a 40 pounds heavier dummy will change anything to the 2 ton SUV crashing into you. Also, unless you're a genetic anomaly, as a woman your height and weight are gonna fall somewhere in between the 5% female and the 50% male (reminder: to be taller than 50% of men, you'd have to be taller than 95% of women) and results can be extrapolated to you based on these two points. In reality, tall men are less taken into account because the 5%female is a useless data point for them. Having legislation mandating SUVs to actually be crash compatible with normal sized cars would help a lot more. Did you know that SUVs are only crash tested on other SUVs? They just assume they're gonna ram into normal cars and unalive everyone inside anyway lol The US is such a clown country.

[@nef36]

So, obvious sexism in the crash scenarios aside, having the female dummies be 5th percentile makes a little sense, if you decide that a woman with the height and weight of a 50th percentile man would perform the same in a crash scenario. The safety issue is that the female dummies are 5th percentile and not like, 15th or 30th or something, and the crash tests are too conservative with their dummy use; it should probably be something like "front crash with all seats filled with male dummies, front crash filled with all female dummies", etc, rather than "husband with his wife", or "husband with his friend" themes.

[@pleaserespond3984]

I'm willing to bet that the scenario of crashing while driving in your neighbourhood is one of the more frequent scenarios encountered by women drivers and that's why the test dummy for that scenario is a woman. Also if the NHTSA said "an average woman weighs much", there would be riots, lmao.

[@trstmeimadctr]

My mom is small, and when I was very young, my parents got in a car accident. They were hit so hard that they went into a spiral, and my dad had to hold my mom into the car by her thigh because her door came off. Thankfully when I was a kid, my dad was a total gym bro, because the bruise he left on her leg was the worst one I've ever seen, just totally black, so you can imagine just how much force was trying to fling her out of the car. Also I have a question. Car manufacturers aren't going to make major changes to car between the different countries they sell it in, so shouldn't place like the EU or Japan's crash test standards be catching this stuff and forcing manufactures to account for women's safety? Because of that, I just don't understand why women are injured more. Could it be down to the fact that women have lower bone density, which makes them more susceptible to skeletal injuries or their ribs being more likely to break, putting their organs at risk?

[@animegirl5631]

thank you

[@Hadeks_Marow]

wait, 5'8" is the AVERAGE?! shiiiiiiii~ 5 foot 6 not feelin too great now over here.

[@MrDj232]

5'9" is the average for men. Technically it's half an inch shorter than the average for men. 5'6" is the average height for women... who aren't wearing high heels.

[@PureMaddnessOne]

@@MrDj232 The average heigth for men depends per country though, some countries the average height is higher and some lower.

[@cdasteez]

I thought this was going to be a way different video

[@BrendanGeormer]

Wouldn't the average male also cover larger women (not all, but more than just the highest 5th percentile)? Obviously not ideal, but I would think the male/female biological differences in the range of mid-high 5' won't really change anything when it comes to a car crash. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's just going off guesswork and intuition.

[@sapnupua5]

average female height in the US is currently 5'4." this is between both tests. women also have less dense bones and carry body fat easier. this seems irrelevant but in reality affects examples, such as the head rests in a lot of cars are too firm to properly cushion an avg woman's head- thus more neck injuries than men in accidents

[@BrendanGeormer]

@@sapnupua5 I understand that the average female height in the US is 5'4"ish, but the thought process was that those on the higher end would be covered to an extent by the average male, given a male and female of average build at the same height would be fairly close in weight. But your point about bone density and with carrying fat is apt and not something I considered. Regarding the head rest, I'm curious how it works that it presumably is soft enough to cushion a man's head, but the firmness needed is different for a woman's head? I know you mentioned bone density, but surely it's still a human bone, not like hollow bird bones?

[@sapnupua5]

@@BrendanGeormer for a headrest to be proper it needs to come up to your ears. since their adjustable this is not the issue of whiplash rates and related neck injuries with women. the issue instead is how the bodies are proportioned differently. this is caused both by their very bones (correct,not bird bones like you say) and where fat is stores differently (the hips and rear being heavier and wider per body versus a male). the proportion differences causes to ultimately slightly different sitting postures. this can be reflected by dummies, a woman is no harder to mimic than a male despite the regulations making it seem otherwise. studies have found that the sitting posture and aforementioned factors lead to severely more whiplash and neck injuries for women, the cushion is too firm to make their heads and torsos go into the seat at an equal rate as men's do. this is just a youtube comment so a better explanations with real testing can be found through just searching "whiplash gender rates" or "neck injuries car accident" in "google scholar." a lot of studies have been done in the last twenty years as its one of the clearest indications that men and women are treated differently in car safety and it matters. its really shocking how just changing the softness of a cushion could have avoided so many injuries and potentially deaths. and thats just one aspect of car safety

[@BrendanGeormer]

@@sapnupua5 I great;y appreciate the effort in responding to inform some random stranger. I figured there was a relatively easy solution, just that it's cheaper for companies to ignore it until the social pressure becomes too much. It makes sense now that you mention how the weight distribution is relevant due to posture and sitting position, and how that can affect how one is in the seat cushion to be protected from a potential crash in that way. I'll do some reading up on my own time, but thank you again :)

[@sapnupua5]

@@BrendanGeormer no problem! this is the kind of thing i like thinking about anyways

[@sprawlz6466]

This is actually so funny lmao. Like what the hell?

[@gdttdeggegdh5471]

5th percentile? Who was the genius that thought this was a good idea?

[@faceless2302]

My guess is that average women are comparable enough to the lighter than average men, but a 5th percentile woman applies to a variety of smaller people that aren't just women. So in other words you're testing an average human and an abnormal human like a kid, for lack of a better way of phrasing it. The dummies are just gendered for no reason at all.

[@gdttdeggegdh5471]

@@faceless2302 imo those two categories aren't enough. But I guess if we had to limit ourselves to what is basically 2 types of dummies, then yeah, this combination makes sense. Naming the child one "5th percentile female" doesn't.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Men?

[@TheCreepypro]

educational

[@brandonburgos1215]

Silly Lowart, women can’t drive! Lol This video reminds me of JonTron’s boat safety video. Totally random, super niche, but you actually learn something in an entertaining way.

[@NoahStavish]

I don't work for the US government or car safety firms, but I am a certified project management professional, am certified for ISTQB-FL, and am a software QA Test Lead. I didn't take the time to research the cars you showed, but the likely reason you're seeing the tests you're seeing isn't due to gender discrimination (despite the obvious correlation), and more likely a result of lack of time and resources to rigorously test the vehicles. The testing center most likely has a handful of cars available for testing purposes and thus can only perform a set number of accident tests. Men drive 60% more than women, and are responsible for 71% of accidents. The smaller dummies are not only useful for women but small people such as children and teenagers, who are also more likely to be injured in accidents. The choice of accidents and dummy chosen may be based on long-term statistics they have about death rates and are choosing the group most likely to die or be seriously injured, or are using some sort of automation or algorithm to ensure long-term equalized testing even if certain vehicles do not have that. I mean the number of combinations of passenger layouts, driver dummy types, accident tests would be insane. Let's assume there's 5 standard types of dummies used, 2 for men and women, and 1 for a child. That's honestly probably low. That would mean in a standard car that has 5 possible seats with 6 passenger combinations per seat, there's 7776 seat combinations. Assume there are 5 standard accidents that they test. With each seat combination that's 38,880 tests. That would be asking for more tests than fatal auto accidents in 2020. These are of course rough numbers, but goes to show why extensive testing is a fallacy and simply isn't possible. A handful of tests per vehicle would likely be enough to assess its safety rating based on a standard they've used for decades.

[@gdttdeggegdh5471]

Doesn't explain the 5th percentile.

[@Lazypackmule]

@@gdttdeggegdh5471 He literally brought up children and teenagers

[@gdttdeggegdh5471]

@@Lazypackmule ah, forgive me. Doesn't SATISFACTORY explain the 5th percentile. A supposed small adult female isn't a good replacement for a child. Making separate dummies for children (like 3 to 4 different ages) along with a better adult female dummy isn't nearly as awful as testing literally every possible combination. No need to justify the greed and laziness exhibited by the poor poor car manufacturers who totally have to cheat on all the car tests to survive.

[@ValentineC137]

@@gdttdeggegdh5471 I personally dont see how there would be a difference between a 5’9 70kg female crash dummy and a 5’9 70kg male crash dummy

[@gdttdeggegdh5471]

@@ValentineC137 wow, the 50th percentiles for men and women are the same in weight and height? Thanks, didn't know that!

[@thatguy6171]

I'm honestly extremely surprised you're not a conservative judging from some of the comments you made in other videos.

[@TheArcSet]

0.0 Thanks for this video. Horrible as it is to hear.

[@Markm8]

Ok that’s pretty asinine. I don’t even think this is political at all why whould they not test the average female hell i say there should be a small man and a fat of eatch as well

[@SingingSealRiana]

yeah, letting people die is hilarious. Yeah, there should be more diversity in testing in generall but that does not change that the neglect of such disproportionaly leads to death in women. Also, how and why are women likened to/ treated as a minority!!!

[@EmethMatthew]

Amazing

[@griffinwetzel3059]

Wait this is wild. Why aren't the female dummies in the 50th percentile as well? Why are they so small?!

[@faceless2302]

Copy paste of my previous comment, but my guess is that average women are comparable enough to the lighter than average men, but a 5th percentile woman applies to a variety of smaller people that aren't just women. So in other words you're testing an average human and an abnormal human like a kid, for lack of a better way of phrasing it. The dummies are just gendered for no reason at all.

[@griffinwetzel3059]

@@faceless2302 that makes sense. but what about larger humans then? shouldn’t we be testing for them?

[@faceless2302]

@@griffinwetzel3059 You'd think so, it could be bias from the organizers suggesting that larger humans just shouldn't exist. Children and teenagers are a typical part of the lifecycle while abnormally tall or heavy people aren't, for example.

[@griffinwetzel3059]

@@faceless2302 but they still exist and don’t deserve to be injured in car accidents

[@FolstrimHori]

As someone who drives vans everyday for his job, this may be somewhat unrelated but I think cat safety has made people too complacent with being shitty drivers. Regardless of sex. I'll look down and see them with phone in hand, not even looking at the road; and I'll get a temptation to ram them into a ditch. I can't even imagine how frustrating the average driver is for truck drivers. I do notice a weirdly particular issue with nearly all women drivers I see though. They all sit really low to the wheel. It's as if the don't know how to raise the seat, or just prefer to have a severely limited view of the road. No matter where I drove this issue remained true. Hopefully it's just a NYS thing, but it's such a strange trend to me.

[@Raven_Frame]

Sorry ladies, I guess y'all shouldn't be so squishy.

[@literallygrass1328]

Women be like

[@ThePutativeFrosty]

For what it's worth every woman driver I know in my life either panics, oversteers or is distracted while driving as well has been in multiple accidents one having 3 back to back on rainy roads within 2 months. The dudes? Usually just back ends sliding into trees during the winter but that is only one dude XD

[@GUNS_jk]

Imma change my gender to female on my car insurance so I don't have to pay the "sexual discrimination" tax. lol

[@andr0oS]

wat

[@andr0oS]

To be fair, great video on the topic, but just really out of left field.

[@SingingSealRiana]

look it up, it is scary as hell. People are so easely fooled to belive we are past feminism, but there are many cases where womens lifes are disproportionaly endangered for the sientific methods focus on men. Another is that meds often only get tested on men for ease in analysing the results, disregarding that female body chemistry reacts very different in many cases and those results are useless to them. So a lot of "untested" meds come to the market where no one knows how they will impact the women they get sold too . . . also the dosage of vaccines are calibrated with a male immunsythem in mind

[@Peasham]

Women are pretty scary yea

[@SingingSealRiana]

Yeah, ceatures spoken of in myth

[@pamelaguerra3768]

I'm glad this is a concern that you have and that is being put out there but this video does feel a bit under researched? it sounds a little bit like a reaction video instead of something that you might have written.. for example idk if this is the case, it's entirely possible that your impression is just right, especially given the numbers you gave for women's likelyhood to be injured or killed in an accident, but it ocured to me that maybe what is not being acounted for are the poeple outside of what is represented by the dummies intead of the peope in the middle (of course, for this to be true they would have to use both dummies for every test instead of only one, so maybe not) so maybe the people not being considered here are those who are smaller than the small dummie and bigger that the big one, or lighter than the light one and heavier than the "heavy" one. This doesn't really agree with your data because it would mean that there are more men unacounted for than women while the data says that women are more likely to die or be seriously injured, but maybe the problem is that they're not doing every test with all dummies instead of the one you're pointing too (i still mostly don't think this is all because both women and men have two dummies and in both cases the dummies are pretty similar, but maybe that's a problem too) but my point is that there is an inmediate asumption being made (that is probably right) that doesn't sound researched, it sounds like the first impresion of someone not versed in the matter, getting angry about it without bothering to ask someone who actually knows. idk if i explained myself very well, it's very likely that you are right, I'm not here to deffend a very obviously misogynist goberment from the acusation of being misogynyst, the issue i took is more how you said it than what you said.

[@SingingSealRiana]

It is not even 6 minuts long, of cause it does not have the time or depth of a reaserch paper. Regard it as a teaser and look it up. He is right

[@bmac4]

Bro aren't you Canadian lol Like it's a good video it's just funny to see

[@Lazypackmule]

Because talking about current discriminatory issues in Canada would make for a much darker video

[@faceless2302]

It's all fun and games when the US or whoever does it, but no one wants to talk about Canadian or German governmental issues

[@Lazypackmule]

@@bmac4 Bro your government is literally going Low Tier God on the poor, mentally ill, and developmentally disabled in an attempt to free up strained medical resources

[@Blackout-ff6ck]

I know kingdom hearts broke you, but you could of just told us you were running out of ideas for the month with an update video or something, I don't know how therapeutic reading government help guides is

[@PureMaddnessOne]

The seatbelt won't be developed better because of government interferences. So this problem in vid does fit with it shows the actualy problem and it isn't sexism, well could be part of problem, but is not main part.

[@SingingSealRiana]

It is kind of a sexism problem when women are treated as a minority that can be neglected.

[@PureMaddnessOne]

@@SingingSealRiana The problem is bigger than that, but as i said sexism can be part of problem. As i said the seatbelt won't be developed further what affects both men and women, even worse it affects children. Either world wide speaking women r NOT a minorty, they r a majority.

[@Lordlaneus]

ooh, is low art gonna become a breadtuber?

[@MrDj232]

This is a bad video, and you should feel bad. The average man is 5'9" and the average woman is 5'6". Testing that 3 inch difference is going to give far less data than testing a much smaller woman. Also, bad weather can absolutely cause accidents through no fault of the driver. There's absolutely nothing in the 3rd scenario that implies the woman driving caused the accident. You're reaching so hard to find misogyny that you never even bothered to ask if there might be another answer.

[@PureMaddnessOne]

I think it might be a bit of a joke vid that some ppl took a bit 2 serious. Either average height depends either per country, the average height in USA for men is 5'10 and women was 5'5 last i checked, but that was a few years ago that i saw that info could've changed.

[@Iri5hman]

This whole video seem like you are grasping at straws.

[@SingingSealRiana]

look it up, if you have women in you life you care about it is very scary how often their safety is disregarded for focusing on the male average is less effort. Also a problem in the testing of meds

[@Khaynizzle7]

Uhm. If they go with a very low weight female dummy and an average weight male dummy wouldn't it be safe to assume most people in between would be just as safe? Like i HIGHLY doubt that this information only serves to tell us that its safe only for women 4'11" and 100lbs and only safe for men at 5'11" and 170lbs or whatever. Pretty sure people in between would be safe. Also why not point out the increase in vehicular fatlities due to the increase in weight in vehicles over safety regulations and the increase in vehicular manslaughter due to people being drug under these super high bumpers rather than being rolled over the roof of the car like with older vehicles. Cars were safest around 2008 change my mind.

[@ollyjhb3872]

eh okay?

[@007kingifrit]

i'm sure there are good reasons for this

[@SingingSealRiana]

there really is not. just like meds often only get tested on male testsubjects and then later get sold to all for the body chemisty between men and women is different and the results are easyer to read if you just focus on men. That a reason, but not a good one, for those results are compleatly useless in regards of how the med will effect the women who later take it without any of the safty messures that the tests ensure. the reason is lazyness and it is negligent

[@007kingifrit]

@@SingingSealRiana maybe men volunteer more to be text subjects?

[@joeltaylorthethird5443]

@@007kingifrit they want this to be sexist so bad

[@007kingifrit]

@@joeltaylorthethird5443 yea that's the ultimate evidence not to trust leftism. they claim to want to help people but they really enjoy finding cruelty in the world.

[@HeavyMetalMal42]

@@007kingifrit I don't mean to be rude, but no, it's well documented that for a long time men were considered the "norm" and female test subjects were frequently excluded from medical studies entirely, meaning that studies on thousands of people--studies that still form the basis of our knowledge about conditions that are very common regardless of sex, such as heart attacks--included no women at all. Apparently researchers often assumed that women would be affected exactly the same as men, an assumption that would have been proven wrong if they'd bothered to find out. Or sometimes they assumed that female hormone cycles would complicate things. Which is nonsense, because in cases where that is a factor that would affect things, it would be important to know that before applying the knowledge gained in the study to a population that is half female. Also, the FDA used to officially recommend excluding all women of potential childbearing age for the sake of preventing birth defects. Even those with no significant risk of becoming pregnant did not have the choice to participate. Things are getting better, but it's a process. I really advise against assuming that everything is fine, the government knows what it's doing, and discriminatory practices aren't real. The more you read and listen to credible sources of information, the more you learn that everything is broken.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Goofiest thing ever.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Yeay, endangering peoples life for women are treated like a electable minority is truly hilarious

[@KKTunez]

well damn what u wanna test? situations that are MORE likely to happen or more rare occasion ones instead of the more common ones? lets face it the "oopsies guess there was a curb there, I'm such an aquarius" are a greater population and shittier drivers than the slowly growing yet still vastly smaller population who are into driving/building cars. and whos more in that group? men, of course some women but much more men. Which would know the difference from oversteer and understeer/know how to correct it and how to hold a steering wheel properly not 5 inches in front of them? It's a paradox how more than half the mfs on the road even get a license.

[@Lazypackmule]

Cars are absolutely also designed for women, as long as those women are 5'10'' and 170 pounds

[@SingingSealRiana]

No they are not, cause even with that the center of gravity in women is differently placed then it would be in a man... Women are so screwed when it comes to safety and health

[@candide1065]

@@SingingSealRiana Then whamen should have invented cars instead of scratching their vagaga

[@CZOM027]

But it does though, you have 170ish cm women with 78kg more or less, its the "male" model. Works all the same, what matters is the body proportions right?

[@wuba5456]

huh?

[@fresh10]

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