Is Raimi's Spider-Man as Great as We Remember?

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

This movie is the purest form of Comic Book Movie. It is written like a 6 Issue Story Arc. It has the tone of a comic book, with all the logic and illogic of one. Do I love it? Yes. Do I think it’s the greatest movie of all time? No. Is it peak cinema? In some ways… yes.

[@lunakingsley.7247]

The sam Rami and MCU Spidey are both among the most comic book accurate (especially when including games and cartoons).

[@robertrivera5569]

Overrated

[@vision4860]

​@@lunakingsley.7247 Most accurate to the *tone* of old comic books? Quite possibly. Accurate to the original Spider-Man comic run? Not so much. Peter's characterization in the first place is incredibly different.

[@ungabungar]

The key to highly effective cheese is to make it feel spontaneous. The actors in this movie all feel like the cheese is their one hundred percent real emotional thoughts, opinions, and feelings, which makes the goofy stylized world around them feel authentic. That's why Marvel films are losing their magic: the writing is still hammed up for the audience to sell the concept, but the actors are in on the camera winking joke so nothing feels authentic, like it came from a real person in a real scenario, but rather from a performer or a comedian doing a bit - so when the drama comes it's like the audience is doing a triple axle 360 no scope back flip dolphin dive into a completely different movie with no seat belt.

[@TyandOnGoing]

This does make a lot of sense knowing how hands on the actor for green goblin William defoe in both far from home and spiderman 1 was trying to make his performance as attention grabbing as possible without taking away from the scene. Small things like laughing while peter is punching him rapidly is such a treat.

[@adampanter2947]

Totally agree with you on the tone. The intentionality campy style is what makes this film (and the trilogy) feels so unique and fresh even today in the superhero genre. Well, at least the first 2. 😅

[@grymreefer420]

Watch your mouth. Spider man 3 is just as good 😩

[@adampanter2947]

@grymreefer420 to each their own! I think 3 crosses that thin line the first two perfectly walked between drama and campiness and was all over the place. Totally fumbled Venom too. Should have just been Sandman and Harry as the villans.

[@CaptainEliGames]

@@adampanter2947 Sony Screwed Sam Raimi And Forced Him To Add Venom And Rush It, Venom Was Meant For The 4th One. Such A Shame 😕😐 (Still Liked The 3rd Tho But Damn)

[@galactic85]

Spider-man 2 is one of my favorite films of all time and while the first one isn't as good I still love it a lot. so when I saw you made this video I almost had a heart attack. I wound up fast forwarding to the end just to hear your conclusion so when you said "yes" I was very relieved. Always happy to hear someone enjoys these movies. Yes they can be cheesy but they can also be very heartfelt and the comics themselves were pretty damn cheesy and silly so it's mainly a product of the source material they are dealing with.

[@marquezrobinson7492]

Yes…yes it is

[@BrotherVoidBomber]

Yup video over we good.

[@sidenote1459]

Beat me to it

[@BBK113]

Lol

[@dtay8913]

No... it's better than we remember

[@BBK113]

@@dtay8913 Lol.

[@tanmanstudios]

Despite being dated, this film has an undeniable charm that makes it forever endearing. Sam Rami put so much love and care into the film and it shows. And even if you don’t like the movie, you can’t deny the amazing meme material!

[@suezuccati304]

I agree, me being something of a writter myself.

[@diodora2381]

I recently watched the Sam Raimi Spiderman Movies and it's honestly insane how much better they are than Marvel's current Spiderman incarnation. There's a weight to it. I really enjoy Spiderman 2, probably even more than Spiderman. But the Green Goblin is such an iconic villain that I can't help but love him more as the better foil to Peter than Doc Ock. I haven't watched Spiderman 3 but I might. Just some really great cinema.

[@MNCC8]

Have you watched it

[@diodora2381]

@@MNCC8 nope, my friend will probably make me watch it while we drink though at some point.

[@DaveMania01]

Having seen the making of for the swinging scene around 9:40 I can't unsee it lol

[@charlieflight6124]

It's definitely a yes. This trilogy is the one that makes Peter Parker the most personable character. and kid me related to that all too well. Also day 4 of Novidember.

[@foryouphilanything]

Honestly all your videos are just So incredibly well written and done. You pick all this stuff apart SO WELL, and then you put it into words ??!! Heck yeah dude, keep it up, love your stuff:)

[@metroidman3893]

I fucking love all three of these movies so much.

[@fracture4047]

My sister and I watch this every Thanksgiving and it never gets old. It has so much more charm, personality, and heart than the majority of superhero films today

[@Scerttle]

The movie was definitely of its era, yet it surprisingly holds up.

[@galactic85]

There is a timelessness to these films that really helps. There are a lot of movies you can watch and just go "that was made in the early 2000's" based on their aesthetic and stylistic choices. Yes there are elements of this movie that feel like a product of their time, such as Macy Gray's cameo, but other aspects of it feel kind of "old timey hollywood" like the scene where Peter and MJ talk in the back yard.

[@ahmedalhosani6895]

Spider-Man 2 is literally one of the best films ever made

[@galactic85]

Yep. And If that opinion is wrong I dont want to be right.

[@rhysburns5420]

Easily my favourite movie of all time

[@vootvoot9180]

Spider-man 2 > Dark Knight

[@WhatsUpFella]

The answer is yes. Honestly the whole trilogy is fantastic, even 3. People call it messy but all the narrative threads naturally connect thematically.

[@LUXSTERIA]

Agree

[@ray2dee88]

This get me excited for your Spiderman 2 video

[@Nick64266]

To be honest this is still my favorite Spider-Man film of all time. Even more then Spider-Man 2, Into the Spiderverse, and the MCU ones. I guess I’m biased since I went and saw it when I was 7 but it struck me as one of the funnest, funniest, most action packed, and enthralling superhero films of all time!

[@DIVING_BELL]

me and my cousin laughed our asses off with that transition from the green goblin blowing up the government test to the graduation scene. also green goblin randomly bursting into rooms like the kool-aid man. one of my favorite movies of all time.

[@yashjoshijee2294]

Man, I was waiting for your review on this movie for so long. Thanks lowart

[@dvides89]

Spider-Man 2 is actually much better to me now than when I saw it, feels much deeper than when I saw it as a teenager.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

RIP Laura Ziskin Thanks for giving life and depth to this beautiful franchise

[@TheStrangerSpeaks10]

We take a lot for granted about these films. Consider that besides one of two dc offerings, it was basically just power rangers. We weren’t warmed up to the concept yet as a culture, and the campy goofy side of spider-man 2002 represents the early acceptance of the tone of superhero films. Consider trying to adapt a story about a guy who wears spandex and beats up guys in latex, the camp in Spider-Man barely dips it’s toes into that level, but we haven’t quite figured out how to do the body armor that looks like the costume from the comics bit yet. It was either, it’s going to be campy, or you pull an X-men and just have them all wearing black leather.

[@TheStrangerSpeaks10]

At any rate I think Raimi walked that line perfectly.

[@chauncie8201]

Way to go Lowart! I see you putting in that work! 😊

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

I love that this movie was able to lean into the campier elements of the comics without losing the heart of Spider-Man. It’s a tough balance to strike and they nailed it here.

[@trashboat5388]

Two words(and a hyphen): Spider-Buggy

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99]

It still holds up, love this movie lol

[@Nyutamoony]

god I miss movies like this one

[@atomicspid2129]

Besides The Incredibles, this was the first superhero movie I ever saw as a kid. This movie made me a fan of Spider-Man and Marvel.

[@BigFella117]

Sam Raimi’s trilogy is probably the best film incarnation of Spider Man

[@viyusavery248]

Spiderman 2... 1)Heroes actually saving people on screen .. 2)a hero being PUNISHED for doing good Point number 2 trust me that is ultra rare across evey medium of storytelling dudes life sucked for just being Spiderman man

[@Flip-a-dip-dip]

My only issue with this movie is that it doesn’t give my favorite character, Bonesaw, enough screen time. BONESAW IS REAADDYYY

[@animonk1001]

The best. Only to be out done by that beautiful sequel Raimi and Tobey the goats

[@Zombiesnyder13]

They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits of NWH But you know who else deserves a big thank you? LAURA ZISKIN It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that this trilogy had so much depth Arad on the other hand just wanted to use those movies to sell toys

[@metroidman3893]

Yes

[@hue_haz]

I love that I looks like defoe hand is pointing to Iowa

[@ThePonderer]

The first Sam Raimi film, to me, has aged far and away the best of the trilogy. Save Spider-verse, I think it’s the strongest Spidey film narratively by a mile.

[@Luizanimado]

2:03 just a correction (not that it makes a lof of difference though) is that Flash and Peter has 18 instead of 16

[@Requinix17]

The worst part about Spiderman is that having watched it in theaters makes me old

[@ORREGOLAC]

For me, those movies are just good for memes and having a good laugh.

[@petersarubbi]

Yes..💙 even better when compared to Spider-Man films that have come after Raimi's trilogy... It's just too bad that Mary Jane wasn't done correctly here or yet in any movie

[@delix787]

FUCK YES IT IS!! 🕷🕸🕷

[@alexandrefrauches132]

To this day, this still one the best comic book adaptations It's clear that Raimi is comic book fan, and also Spider Man fan in how he took many elements from the classic Spider Man and still made a version that is unique and great introduction. HOWEVER, as much I love the film, it's not perfect, neither one my top 5 for 3 major flaws. 1) While many scenes are iconic the CGI, for me at least doesn't hold on nowadays. Every lookslike a cutscene from video game. This is something only got improve in the sequels. 2) I respect your opnion about Tobey Maguire, but he didn't convince me that much as Spider man. When he's Peter Parker, the shy lovable nerd, he's good, but when he's Spider man he lacks a few of Spidey trades, such as his sense of humor and his fun and joyfull personality (sure sometimes he tries to tell a joke, but are rare and most of the times it doesn't feel natural). Not saying that Spider man need to tell a joke every single time, but also he shouldn't just always be in silent or not making fun commentaries about his villains during the fights. 3) I feel the rivalry between Spider man Green Goblin wasn't done very well . I'm not saying that the Goblin was a bad character. He was great and William Dafoe nailed both Norman Osborn and the Green Goblin. However, I think the character lost it's purpose after his first battle with Spiderman. All the scenes where he tries to recruit Spider man, at least for me, made no sense since it's never clear for what Goblin is recruting spider man for. He doesn't have any plan. Until their first meeting, all Goblin wanted was to save his company, and he achives this goal after killing the general and the board members, so why he's going after spider man? I can guess he want people to be afraid of him but this is just the generic "crazy villain doing crazy thing because it's crazy" motivation. I think that Goblin's rivalry with Spider man would had worked better if the movie had Goblin killing the people who betrayed him one by one, and Spider man would constantly getting in his away, making Goblin becomes obsess with the hero.

[@thefan974]

I disagree with you on the CGI. I think at the time it's use was pretty significant but looking back now it didn't actually use as much as I used to think ( especially compared to spider man 3). 90 percent of the fight scenes are in camera so they obviously hold up but even when it does use CGI, what comes to mind is the swinging scenes or crazy stunts like dodging the blades , the bridge sequence etc. and that stuff still looks as good as u could ask for. . There are a couple of shots in the homemade costume and time square scene which look a little overly animated or weightless but otherwise its fine in the rest of the film. Other thing is while I agree Toby didn't joke that much as spidey, I think he did best with what he was given and even then for me what matters is if it feels like he's having fun and in spider man 1 the most it feels like he's enjoying himself at least. It's not my favourite superhero film , that's dc territory, but still for me as good as when it was released.

[@Chaosic]

Spiderman 2002 was good,and the only Spiderman film where he produces his web through his body instead of his web shooters,Toby and William both are really good.

[@riotkitty]

I’m gonna say this and I don’t even need to watch the video but I will anyways…yes, yes it is.

[@Subterraneanhomesickgoober]

Yep it is

[@samkaranja5709]

Gimme that cheese, I'm not lactose intolerant

[@katakanatabro2048]

I have really hated this movie for a long time now for some reason. But u actually did a good job of selling me on it. Well done lol

[@jonnysac77]

Rami movies were actually better than I remember for me since I lived through an era where everyone shit on them for being campy without realizing that was the point even Spider-man 3 is much more fun to watch than the majority of MCU movies

[@Gojeto346]

Yes it is, I didn’t even have to watch the video that’s so crazy

[@theyef3479]

Amazing video

[@wuba5456]

algorithm, I remember this film

[@beastvg123]

Far better than the modern MCU, regardless of how good it is. It's hard to get as horrible as that.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

It's such a contrast to the Snyder Cut.

[@axesaintpatate2822]

The responce to the title of the videos is yes

[@dexterthefeather]

I'm almost too afraid to ask but I hope you can do Ninjago some day!

[@intelligenceparadigm4931]

Gotta hit that 10min mark with a 137,640-syllable YES

[@spacejasontodd]

That's of no doubt, yes, absolutely

[@erikbihari3625]

Yes, it is!

[@LeonardoKlotz]

While everyone hates the newer movies for their excessiveness Everyone loves this one for its simplicity

[@jeffreywesthoff9245]

Yes.😊

[@sopebarrofficial3557]

It’s dated and cheesy but that’s what makes it so fun!

[@ohwellwhatevernevermind4590]

Spider-Man

[@jeanniemaycrawford4466]

YES!

[@grymreefer420]

I watched your video and hoping you would give the right conclusion and you did. So I left you a like and a subscribe lol

[@Cetra29]

Unlike NWH which was just here to be a surprise box for the sake of being onr, yes, it is.

[@SpinyRat]

there are every few movies I can bare to rewatch, it took me to the great power scene to realize, this is not one of them

[@bionabot]

Yeahhhh pretty sure

[@TheCreepypro]

couldn't have said it better myself

[@bowserbreaker2515]

I like that this movie is cheesy. It shows that this is still based on a comic book, they're genuinely funny, and they make the emotional moments hit harder.

[@DSzaks]

Everyone loves some good cheese

[@Rannos22]

wait people think the camp and cheese is a problem? I thought people just warned about that the same way you would warn about a movie being really gory just in case people arent into that

[@malikmatatv.1476]

Is very true to the comics.. but not mj because mJ is a party girl in the comics..

[@ttech8054]

Yo Spider-Man 3 is WAAAY BETTER than we remember ima tell u that right now

[@alexschneider8494]

The campiness doesn’t bother me at all. Idk why that would bother people so much as long as it doesn’t make the whole movie unbelievable.

[@fnaf6491]

All 3 Movies are great

[@davemac9563]

No. It’s even better than I remembered.

[@DrDolan2000]

This is still being debated? Well, it's more Spider-Man content; I'll take it

[@TheViewer_]

If you have a poor memory, then it might just be better than you remember

[@raidenstark315]

Willem defoe born for play the green goblin, he had a stronger and better onscreen cremistry with tom holland

[@Lunk42]

The answer is yes.

[@romanumeralz]

Better💎

[@nifftbatuff676]

I remember this movie being a very insipid CGI fest. I never watched any super-hero movie after that.

[@akiraevangelionultimateali5199]

Please watch Alita anime (dubbed) and movie

[@fiel81]

Yes, end of video

[@SzatanistaDzezowy]

It holds up, but more as a campy, funny movie. Meanwhile Spiderman 2 is still a great action movie.

[@anubusx]

Avenge me.

[@sr.brigadeiro7718]

Aaa

[@trashboat5388]

1:55 they’re seniors so…

[@dostoyevskysolzhenitsyn8201]

You might be able to say it was as great as you remember if you can forgive MJ being a damselled plot device. Personally, I think all the live action Spider-Man films are trash.

[@TonyMcCrea]

Yes. Not even going to watch the video. The answer is yes.

[@BBK113]

Yeah no, this whole trilogy sucks if we keeping it a buck

[@nishchayjain1121]

Tobey Maguire is a great actor.

[@9aracna.]

Meow

[@hinata1ize]

No. Nothing ever is. It's either good but not as good or even better, but never as good. And given the nostalgia goggles on milenials,especially when it comes to comics, it's probably not as good.

[@cloudstrife4534]

Nope.

[@anubusx]

How come?

[@cloudstrife4534]

@@anubusx I actually really like it, I’m just being a contrarian.

[@jjcandelabra6164]

Raimi Spiderman is 10 times better than the garbage Tom Holland movies

[@srstriker6420]

Well you’re right about one of those things

[@plasmi9]

Yes

[@chuggaa100]

Yes

[@oneshotprestige]

Yes