The Terror: The Show, the Book and the History. Episode 9 The C the C the Open C

[@miguelletain8822]

Just a minor thing to correct: you mentioned Franklin’s first Arctic expedition (The Coppermine Expedition) and said they were saved by the Inuit. It was actually a group of Dene Yellowknives, enemies of the Inuit, led by Akaitcho.

[@DiamandaHagan]

Always happy to be corrected!

[@Hazztech]

Citation?

[@VitZ9]

As an Australian who attended Melbourne University, I just wanted to share this in regards to Mathena's remains. Melbourne University founder and professor, Richard Berry, was a known eugenicist, who conducted experiments on Aboriginal bodies. He began his tenure in 1906, a year before Mathena's body was exhumed and moved to the University. He kept a collection of over 400 Aboriginal bodies, skulls, and skeletons, which wasn't discovered till after his death in 1962, locked in a private storeroom of the anatomy building. His morbid hoarding of Aboriginal remains is known as "The Berry Collection", and included Mathena's body. Melbourne University released the remains in the 1980's to Indigenous community groups, who attempted to identify and return the remains to their families, but didn't offer an apology till 2003. His name remained on buildings (including the main library) till 2015, when a journalism student rediscovered the university's questionable history, wrote an article about it, started raising awareness through social media groups, and eventually had their story picked up by the mainstream media. His name was finally, quietly, removed from university buildings in 2017, over 18 months after the news story was covered Australia wide by various news providers. His "research" on Aboriginal bodies is still celebrated by the University as one of its first research papers, and available for anyone to read on request, from what used to be the "Richard Berry Library". Berry wasn't the only eugenicist to found Melbourne University though. All of its original founders were racist, sexist, eugenicists who believed darker skin people, the Irish, and women, were intellectually inferior to males of English ancestry. In other words, fck Melbourne Uni.

[@c-puff]

Aaaaah I’m going to miss this series and this arctic exploration videos so much!! I really hope you do more of these about different subjects!

[@DiamandaHagan]

I have a few more polar videos left in me!

[@thepeglarpapers4138]

Armitage actually does appear in The terror! He often appears in scenes with Tozer. He’s just one out of the many dark haired, curly haired dudes, I only noticed him after a few rewatches..

[@3digitsonthebac156]

Armitage was actually one of the mutineers! At the end of episode 10 Tozer yells at him for his gun but he soon gets shot in the head by Magnus Manson. This show has been my fixation in lockdown so i know a fair bit about where the characters appear.

[@thepeglarpapers4138]

@@3digitsonthebac156 yess exactly! Poor Tommy:/

[@MrChickennugget360]

@@3digitsonthebac156 when Magnus shoots him he says "sorry Tom"

[@lufsolitaire5351]

He’s also the 1st of the two crewmen to report to Crozier when the Tuunbaq attacked the ship first in “Punished as a boy”. He told crozier about the attack on pvt. Heather; the one with his brains exposed. 2nd guy was Robert Golding who was yelling it took William Strong. He was also the 4th guy who went to apprehend lady silence with Hickey, Hartnell, and Mason but nobody snitched on him so he didn’t get whipped.

[@DekuTarot]

Yeah they like only refer to him once by name and show him and i believe it's the last episode

[@MsSarahJosephine]

The only reason the Tuunbaq went down is because Blankey's soul was beating it up from the inside.

[@johnlavery3433]

I like to think that Blanky beat the shit out of Hickey’s soul as well

[@anubislover8989]

There's just something about the barely-repressed glee in your voice when you say how amazing Blanky is that makes me smile. He was definitely my favorite character in this show.

[@cleverusername9369]

Still blown away that that's Quirrell

[@danielallen3454]

I am *loving* these. I can't wait to binge the whole thing once you're done. And your fanning over Blanky is just adorable. Man's an inspiration.

[@DiamandaHagan]

And when I'm done I have a few more history videos scripted :)

[@richardmalcolm1457]

Dickens still remains one of my favorite writers, not least because he offered some very trenchant social critiques of his society. But yeah, he had a few glaring blind spots, to put it mildly.

[@richardmalcolm1457]

@3:02 Worth noting that when Dr John Rae sent his report to the Admiralty, he fully appreciated how explosive the reports of cannibalism would be, and sent it confidentially. Somehow, however, it got leaked to the press. Lady Franklin assumed Rae was responsible. It didn't help that she had developed a personal dislike of Rae, who struck her as "hairy" and uncouth.

[@jasonhunter2819]

Have you ever thought about doing a history podcast? I enjoy this series quite a bit

[@quinnzykir]

Id listen to that. Love history podcasts

[@johnlavery3433]

@@quinnzykir I’d love to hear her take on naval history. Hearing her critise Churchill about Gallipoli or coronel, or Beaty about Jutland would be great. Or HMS New Zealand’S lucky grass war-skirt

[@johnlavery3433]

@@Stone46988 her* and if you don’t like her voice why are you here?

[@jasonhunter2819]

@@Stone46988 Well no one fuckin asked you did they? So shuffle on, halfwit.

[@DiamandaHagan]

@@Stone46988 Not to be churlish but why would you listen to it?

[@jonathanwebster7091]

One thing i noticed is the accents: Jared Harris at least attempts a Northern Irish accent, and Ian Hart does a *very* good Yorkshire accent as Blanky (who was from Whitby). Given that Franklin was from Lincolnshire, I’m wondering why Ciaran Hinds speaks with an upper class ‘RP’ accent for him-that wasn’t really something that became common for people of the upper classes until later in the 19th century and 20th century, so he’d probably have a regional accent (unless he took elocution lessons, but still). Although I guess having Franklin going “eh up duck!” every few sentences would have stretched believability a little (even if it would have been accurate 😂).

[@asandwell]

Another interesting comment I have to make is you talking of Hickey and his followers all sitting together and eating with their hands while Lt. Hodgson sits off to the side and eats off fine china and with cutlery. Charles Des Vouex, one of the men pictured at 10:10, is also an officer, albeit a junior one.

[@DiamandaHagan]

Good catch!

[@murrayjohnson5217]

Cannot wait for you to do the finale!!!

[@leomcdonnell2553]

God these are just great, can’t wait for episode ten

[@duncanholding2487]

Thanks so much for these videos. Have really enjoyed each one. Looking forward to ep 10 one :)

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Huh, I assumed you already finished this review. I mean the last one seems to have been... maybe a year or more ago? I am curious what you think of the second season. I went into it with great expectations considering how good the first season was, and man, it was a big disappointment. I'd wager Dickens never saw an inuit ever... did he even ever leave Britain? It is easy to judge people you just hear tall tales about but have never seen, sadly. Still, weird him of all people say stuff like "the inherent nobility of the english spirit"... didn't he grow up in a debtor's prison? He should have known better. Heh that Monty Python cannibalism reference was a good one. They did a lot of those, didn't they? Like when the admiral tries to always remark that cannibalism is no longer a thing in the british navy. :D

[@RUfor80six]

please finish this man... i love it!!!

[@DiamandaHagan]

I will! And I have a few other history videos scripted for doing afterwards!

[@JonMayBowles]

I've really enjoyed these videos and am looking forward to your video on the final episode

[@nomisunrider6472]

Well, if you can't die old and painlessly, might as well discover a passage, have one last smoke while enjoying the view, and fuck up the thing chasing you.

[@iainrocks84]

I look forward to the final episode!

[@sjsto]

When will I learn to read through all the comments before saying anything? I now know that the episode 10 review is on its way and am soothed. Something to look forward to!

[@DiamandaHagan]

It'll be the next video I finish :)

[@TransmissionEpicts]

@@DiamandaHagan Binge watching the current nine, these are very enjoyable (despite this being such an unrelentingly sad story) and well made! Really looking forward to number 10! Anyone I try to get interested in The Terror I send them your videos after they've seen each episode, then I send The History Buff one and the mad one by Voxis.

[@NotesFromTheVoid]

Given that cannibalism in survival situations was apparently so common that the guys in the Dudley and Stephens Case believed that there would be no legal consequences for freely admitting to killing and eating someone because of the "custom of the sea", I'm a little surprised that Victorians were so shocked by the idea that someone might resort to cannibalism. Or was this a class thing? Like poor people might resort to it but not a gentleman of good breeding? Anyway good video as always.

[@DiamandaHagan]

Racism, Classism and the other isms are a hell of a drug.

[@falloutghoul1]

@@DiamandaHagan So many schisms.

[@richardmalcolm1457]

The Dudley and Stephens case wasn't until 1884, though, and it *did* shock British opinion to a real degree. The custom they tried to rely on was real enough but not a well known one among landsmen....and in any event, a couple of castaway able seamen resorting to human culinary adventures wouldn't be as shocking as an entire expedition, led by some of Britain's finest officers, doing it.

[@NotesFromTheVoid]

@@richardmalcolm1457 "human cullinary adventures" is a fantastic way to refer to it btw. i just want you to know that. also thx for the background.

[@richardmalcolm1457]

@@NotesFromTheVoid :)

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

I really enjoy these, especially with how you incorporate other historical details, like the stuff from the Bounty. I knew the bit about how Bligh was actually far more bark than bite; with his brutal reputation arising from Fletcher Christian's rich & influential family wanting to change the narrative from him abandoning Bligh and his loyalists to die at sea because he wanted to get drunk and have sex with native women instead of doing his job (which went so well that most of his men ended up killing each other), but I didn't know Crozier was involved in the aftermath. Another great video, thank you very much. Looking forward to episode 10.

[@richardmalcolm1457]

That's quite true about Christian's family, alas. Bligh's flaw doesn't seem to be that he failed to flog enough - the really successful commanders (like Nelson and Collingwood) tried to do it as little as possible - but that he was wildly arbitrary in his command and treatment of his subordinates, and had no real sense of how they responded. Not the best people person, you might say. (He got mutinied on AGAIN when he was appointed governor of New South Wales!)

[@BloodrealmX]

But... the letter C is _always_ open! If it weren't, it would be an O!

[@ZoidFile]

I really like your history videos.

[@asandwell]

Excellent review, as always. I must however ask Diamanda and others here about a thought that recently occurred to me, out of the blue. Its is known that mosquitoes plague the Arctic and sub-Arctic regions in summer. Indeed, Franklin himself reported being besieged by the creatures on his Mackenzie River expedition if I'm not mistaken. Some of his officers on his final one reported being pestered by those pesky beasts at Disko as well. And mosquitoes carry malaria, and many died from mosquito-born malaria on long voyages of discovery in the seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Is it possible some members of the Franklin expedition died from malaria as a result of mosquito bites?

[@DiamandaHagan]

I don't see why not.

[@richardmalcolm1457]

Mosquitoes, like most wildlife, are pretty rare on King William Island, though, even in a warm summer (which 1847, 1848, and 1849 were not!). If any of them had gotten down to Back's Fish River on the mainland (Crozier's stated objective in the Victory Point Note), they *would* have run into mosquitoes, but as far as we can make out, none of them did. Honestly, I think scurvy was their major problem.

[@sjsto]

Tragically, I can't find your video about the final episode. This makes me very sad.

[@moefizzlack4633]

Where oh where is the last episode for Christ sake!! These r great thanks sir!!

[@DiamandaHagan]

It's coming! One of the perils of working on so many different projects, I end up disappointing everyone!

[@moefizzlack4633]

@@DiamandaHagan Phewwww!! No disappointment here I’m relieved I assumed it had been and gone, no worries, looking forward to it! Loved all the historical insight.

[@DekuTarot]

But do you have Mr. Blanky merch because 6 years later i am INTERESTED

[@DiamandaHagan]

I don't unfortunately, sorry!.

[@DekuTarot]

Well if I design something I'll link it to ya! Been listening to these after every episode and your historical analysis makes it so much better. I LOVE history of exploration and tragedy at sea and it's been so fun finding your playlist on the polar race and other notable sea and exploration tragedies! Great work my guy, you've got a new subscriber! 🤙

[@DiamandaHagan]

@@DekuTarot :)

[@wormswithteeth]

When can we expect your review on the last episode? It ended tonight on BBC.

[@DiamandaHagan]

Hopefully this month, the ep is part done.

[@laragallahue7127]

I love theses videos

[@Rhubba]

Are you going to do a review of episode 10?

[@DiamandaHagan]

I am and it's scripted, I' just juggling a bunch of projects because I'm a fool who cant organise stuff.

[@numan9117]

The head was used as a mobile food source? like WTF

[@Abby-vn8cc]

Where can I find your review of episode 10? I've been looking everywhere

[@veronicawood8295]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHyso2tojraUiZo

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Does anyone else think that young Charles Dickens is kinda cute?

[@SucidalMuffin]

please do a video on the franklin conspiracy

[@Lazysupermutant]

It might be the wisconsinite in me but I do rather enjoy Arctic stories, these vast Frozen deserts were basically no one ever conquers them and even fewer managed to get back alive to learn that lesson. Not to mention that vast desolate fuel the white it's so easy to lose yourself and you slowly freeze

[@keefyfingers8574]

episode 10?

[@DiamandaHagan]

It's gonna happen.

[@ClaytonianJP]

@@DiamandaHagan yus, plz

[@Krushtykon]

When’s 10 lad?

[@DiamandaHagan]

Eventually, having trouble finding a lad to do it.

[@timboyd-cox8922]

A great series of videos but boy you got a strange accent, especially on the last word of every sentence 🤔

[@DiamandaHagan]

I approve of this message.

[@timboyd-cox8922]

@@DiamandaHagan to be fair I only noticed it on episode 9. Is it Irish/Canadian.

[@mathieuleader8601]

pegler papers I wonder if that was your former assoicate's ancestor

[@Caernath]

THUG LIFE

[@bigaliceenergy7578]

So it turns out that they ate Fitzjames 🫡