The Thing about Rise of the TMNT

[@A--NguyenNhaQuan]

I also kinda feel that the redemption could have been done a lil better.However, i cut the team for some slack because the second season was cut in half, If it weren't cut, i think that the Draxum would have more time to redeemed himself and the arc would make more sense and feel more natural.

[@walterobrien8045]

The Draxum issue sucks so much because it could have been a great moment of development for Mikey to realize that kindness doesn’t mean unconditional forgiveness and that even if Draxum made him what he is, Splinter is the one who made him W H A T he is. Wow...that was probably the cheesiest way I could ever have said that.

[@michaeliv284]

Better to say Splinter made him *who* he is

[@vi__o]

Well said 👏👏

[@millie..]

yessss they missed out on a bunch of character development for mikey

[@crappy_coffee7701]

As someone who has grown up as a somewhat avid TMNT watcher, Rise is one of the best iterations. I'm biased towards the 2012 one because I have a lot of happy memories with my brother, but looking back more critically it wasn't as good as I thought it was. Rise not only mixes up just about everything in the formula and breathes new life into the franchise, it also has gotten me to cry real tears way to many times like god damn.

[@crappy_coffee7701]

Also, to answer your question, personally I do legitimately think it's because of the power rangers.

[@oofmcscooch4751]

OH MY GOD YES I AGREE SO MUCH. The only thing I didn’t really like at first (I still am a bit salty about this) is that they changed the weapons, some of the personalities, and the leader. Though the weapons were a tribute to one of the older comics, so I like that now, and the new personalities were refreshing, in a way. Though the new personalities of Raph and Leo make the change of leadership an inevitability. I guess it is nice to have a series where Raph and Leo aren’t fighting every other episode though. (Like, seriously. So many episodes were about their bad relationship. It got kinda annoying) I did like some of the 2012 turtles better, (Raph & Mikey) but that’s just personal preference. 2012 Leo kinda annoyed me tho. He was really similar to my older sister, so I didn’t like him. Anyways I love all of the Rise turtles, and I’m so angry they canceled the show, because I really wanted to see more of them.

[@SweetChildofMine-l5y]

@@oofmcscooch4751 WHAT? 2012 Leo is perfect, how dare you. Rise Turtles were all clones of Mikey anyway. Unoriginal. Stupid.

[@naijamations3404]

@@SweetChildofMine-l5y ah yes the other turtles having fun, they're all mikey apparently because hur dur teenagers are supposed to be dark and serious.

[@pidgeon2699]

same here! i was only 6 yrs old when the first season was made so i dont remember much of the earlier seasons, most i remember is that mickey was my favourite character and i was quite happy at how rottmnt kept him as a lovable goofball without have to make him say something stupid at least once (1) per scene line the 2012 one did.

[@timothyoakhart8860]

Rise has to be one of the most underrated versions of the TMNT. That final fight with Shredder was epic!

[@gepettogreco]

Honestly, every fight scene was amazing in that show, with the Shredder fights being [french chef kiss]. I hope this show gets uncancelled after the summer movie is distributed through Netflix. It's a crime against animation to stop now.

[@cherrywhine]

@@gepettogreco the fight scenes were what drew me into the series as well. as someone who usually watches anime, the fluidity of their movement had me flabbergasted. its like if you compiled every good thing in an anime and made it into a whole series. insane

[@Dustinlove102]

YESSS

[@temporarilyalaine]

if u dont like rise block me

[@renji90998]

I'll admit I did question the turtles didn't design when I first saw them. Then wondered if the turtles are actually different turtles, and it turns out that was the case. Raph a snapping turtle, Leo a red-eared slider, Donnie a spiny softshell, and Mikey an ornate box turtle. There where a lot of good creative choices that fans over looked for being "too different".

[@Zeverz]

Across tmnt Raphael was always trying to be the leader but his anger got in the way of being able to do it. With Raphael no longer being a total asshole and the angry one they prob just made the call to make him the leader. Also he's red so that helps as the Usa thinks that's why(even if red in all other situations means doom)

[@cretinouscretin9677]

I’m actually not too bugged about Draxum getting a redemption. It’s not like this show was an Uber-serious iteration of the turtles in the first place, and it fits in with Mikey’s more innocent and childlike characterization. Besides, it wasn’t like Draxum was much of a threat anymore after he got soul-sucked by the Dark Armor, so he gets completely torn down to be built back up into something better. Which, tbh, is a much better ‘redemption’ arc than an assload of others we’ve seen in recent media.

[@edgymoonstone4117]

I remember that when the 2012 ended I was so angry because of the finale because they just made the ending very dark instead of them having a happy ending where they are all together. So when Rise was announced, I was angry because it felt like Nick just wanted to get more profit from Ninja Turtles and couldn't be bothered by giving 2012 a good ending. I hated Rise until I watched the show and fell in love with it. I've never known that I wanted a more funny, sensitive, cute, and happy version of the Turtles. I mean in the 2012 one they didn't even cry once or had a true breakdown, they always rushed the story. Also, to your question why they made Raph the leader, in the other versions of tmnt Raph would complain to Leo that he sucks at being a leader and would say that he could be better. But I believe that the director and everyone working on it just wanted to try something new with Raph, and I'm so glad they did. Also, these are the best versions of Apil and Casey Jones. I don't that other fans hate them or all my friends hate them, I love both of them so much.

[@scottroxford5715]

I found it hilarious that there were some people pissed off that April was black but she was black in the original comics, some "true fans" they are.

[@thevioletskull8158]

I admittedly never new that,can’t believe they whitewashed her...

[@jayelatolbert5822]

I remember when they made April black and sooo many people were upset while I was happy that for once she looked like me

[@kaams224]

Plus she is black in original comics 🤦‍♂️

[@asheefaazmialifia3069]

@@kaams224 ooo interesting

[@blessiemasancay4818]

She's really cute.

[@oshkeet]

It's an especially weird complaint for April since shes typically the only human who hangs around with the turtles that much. You could redesign her plenty and it wouldnt be exactly hard to figure out who she was.

[@dulapeep-1608]

Yassss same!!!! I never really liked April because of she looked in the 2012 version(The fanart looks A LOT better than she actually does in the show to me for some reason) but seeing April as a black character made me soooooooooo happy because she was very relatable and she looked(somewhat) like me!!!!!!!

[@kenzz9682]

Awesome video, I’m really glad more and more folks are talking about RotTMNT. I love how many times the turtles call splinter some iteration of ‘dad’ (Donny’s fucking “papa” never fails to get a chuckle from me), so many iterations of the franchise focus so heavily on the teacher and student relationship that you kind of forget that Splinter also raised them outside of the dojo (with some rare exceptions, my brain’s file cabinet pulled up Leo calling Splinter “dad” like..once in the first Bay movie for a second, or if there’s a flashback to Turtle Tot days) also your video legit got me to submit a formal message to ViacomCBS asking foe this show to get additional seasons. Really hope they hear the fans and the show can be given another shot.

[@rubes3915]

yeah i really love how often they call him dad

[@artisticcannibalism1350]

I guess it's time I get off my lazy ass and finally check this show out.

[@mayday2237]

I've loved the steady progression 2003 to 2012 to rise of April becoming more and more part of the family

[@frostfairy40]

My favorite turtle is Leo, and this is my favorite iteration of him to date. I thought he’d feel lacking since being the leader has always been his most defining trait, but pulling him out of that position has made for a far more interesting character. Also, I can’t believe there are people who take this franchise seriously.

[@phlpcockrell]

OMG SOMEBODY ELSE LOVES CLOTHES DONT MAKE THE TURTLE!! I can't imagine any other anything making a 5+ minute fashion montage entertaining. Like the whole point of a montage is to be short but I just wanted more.

[@TwiIightWyvern]

You touched on a lot of things I love about this show that don't get mentioned very often -- the absolute fun energy of it all, the wholesomeness and actual family dynamics between the turtles, April and Splinter, and my favorite iterations of Raph and Mikey (Donnie is always my favorite in any iteration though). Heck, almost all the characters just feel so fresh and exciting when they're allowed to actually be expressive and it isn't forced into depressing edginess for no reason. I adore the over-the-top animation and the blend of tech and mysticism they do, flashy superpower stuff is just big hammy fun that very rarely ever got used in turtles before. Draxum really is a sticking point though, yeah. His whole 'redemption' thing never really sat well with me, and he's not even good furry bait either. I mean, I have a picture of Asgore for my pfp so questionable dad characters like him and Hohenheim are problematic faves, but even I don't like this guy. He's just so unpleasant. I kinda want to go back and watch the whole series now if I even can, I saw a lot of it but not the whole thing unfortunately.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

If you wanna see the entire show there is sites on chrome for it

[@SylentVoidkeeper]

It's not a coincidence that everyone who really didn't have much exposure to the rest of the franchise all enjoy this show, while "fans" of the franchise hate it despite it honestly being leagues better than the other incarnations. It's not even like the last incarnation was "dark" or "deep" at all. It was the typical 2010s trap of "let's tease a plotline for most of the series and make a series of unsatisfying episodes that technically are plot related. We really need more fun shows that don't take themselves that seriously until they need to. It's the same reason I adored Wander Over Yonder so much. Wander is true joy energy.

[@viraltang]

Yeah sad to say I'm one of those people who slept on this show at first despite being a life long TMNT fan girl. I think it's because the 2012 show just clicked with me personally I thought Rise looked like a step down to me but yeah I was so wrong. Rise is awesome and I need more of it.

[@thepeppershow5539]

Yeah that 2012 show was my childhood and when I saw rise I didn’t like it but now its my seconds favorite iteration!

[@javamikii]

exactly the same for me! i definitely need to check this one out now

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

As someone who only ever watched the reruns of the 1987 cartoon as a kid, this version of TMNT being goofy sounds right up my alley! And honestly, as someone who is sick of edgelord manchildren whinging about children's media needing to be "darker and more mature" so they don't feel insecure about watching a kid's show, I will gladly embrace stuff like Rise that depicts the character hugging, saying "I love you", and just not having it with toxic masculinity! Also, it's really funny/odd that these adults who demand children's media be "more mature like it was back in the 80s and not talk down to its audience", will in the same breath say that children *shouldn't* be watching stuff like The Brave Little Toaster because "it's inappropriate for children". (One would wonder why they would be so contradictory, but once you realize that they want it to be "darker" for *them*, and *not* children, it makes more sense.)

[@KoKo-wu5ed]

i can agree with you as much I love darker stuff in cartoons there is just a point where you need a break from it, rise TMNT is a great show to watch where you just want to laugh or relate to being kids and see the difference of it all, their personality is more shown straight up or how much they really are teenagers who are kids I get why people don't like it but still they can't all be the same things, some need to change up a bit to have there owned story

[@barbarayhivjaneahl3198]

I completely missed this one and as a Turtles fan for mist of my life, I can't believe i missed this one. Things for the new show to add to the back log

[@Mattsothelioma]

I’m at the part where you said “And then the part where they turned shredder into the fucking LITCH KING” And now I’m sold. I “discovered”/started caring about the franchise when 2012 released and I had nothing better to do then watch the pilot. I liked that it seemed to find a balance between the goofy and the serious for the most part (also Splinter is a freaking quote GOLD MINE) and had some decent takeaways early on and was just… genuinely a good show looking back. Honestly I lost track of the show about the time then went into space… but I think the show still kept going after that. Tldr I Wanna watch 2012 and you’ve already sold me on this new adaptation

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

FINALLY! I have been waiting for you to cower this!! This is one of my favorute reincarnations of all time! The fact that leo has such a personality and Mikey being a smart and valued member of the family Raph not having anger issues and Donnie being sassy theather insane god complex child.... damn it was amazing. And splinter is a great father!! Just so good. Better than how 2012 treates Mikey at the very least.

[@venus_vine5582]

From what I know about TMNT lore is Leo was always the leader. Though when he leaves in some iterations Ralph takes over for a little bit. Raph is ever iteration that I know of always ALWAYS has a rivalry with Leo. He would butt heads with him and even fight him. He also fights with everyone and is the loner type that secretly cares about everyone. Original I didn’t like the fact that Raph was the leader because of this, but knowing how everyone actual has character development makes me feel happy. Idk TMNT has some weird lore. Some things are cannon and something are not. Also side not I LOVE the fact that Leo speaks Spanish! I don’t know why it just suits him so well. If I missed something or got something wrong please correct me. Ok bye this comment too long 😂.

[@Drud]

Don't worry, your comment is not too long, because it has many great points. I agree with everything that you said!

[@koolaidlover2382]

Leo speaking Spanish at times, also has to do with what kind of turtle species he is. Red ear sliders are native to the Gulf of Mexico. I love how this show dives deep into their species which I find very cool!

[@voice_0f_reason]

Then Donnie speaks Italian I think.

[@philw3039]

The 1987 cartoon is one of the few versions where Raph and Leo don't have any sort of rivalry. Also, Raph's personality in that series isn't anything like the hot-headed, moody one he's usually given...he's the laid-back, light-hearted, wisecracker almost exactly like Leo is in Rise. The '87 cartoon was my introduction to TMNT (yeah, I'm old) so I actually found it kind of weird when I started seeing the Turtles in other media (notably the1990 movie) and Raph was always the angry one who would butt heads with Leo.

[@wishjordanne2235]

I ADORE this show. It’s absolutely amazing all around. I need season 3!!

[@bucketheadlol]

I grew up on 2012 tmnt and actually currently am rewatching it but I gotta say, for how short Rise was/is, it has to be one of my favorites in the entire series. I don't know if it's my childish mind or my love of anime but something about the show just scratches my brain in the right way to the point where I spent a full night and well into morning just watching the entire show in one sitting. And it hurts to know that this genuinely funny show didn't get the corporate recognition it deserved. I didn't even know about the movie until I watched some videos about the show on KZbin where they mentioned it! Idk I guess I just wanted to rant my mild frustration with how bad this show is treated for it being honestly pretty great man

[@sonicx945]

8:23 it was more because they wanted to expand on Leo’s other traits aside from him just being the leader. Raph was just natural choice to be leader since Leo wasn’t.

[@mikeykitty1235]

I honestly started to love how Rise of the TMNT basically deconstructs on who the characters are. And despite how different they are, their new personalities still stay true to who the characters are at their core. Raph was the leader, but yet he has moments where he lets his anger get the best of him. Don is still the tech genius. Leo isn't as mature as his previous versions, yet he also shown to be capable of leading the team when Raph failed. And Mikey shares plenty of moments where he becomes more wild and energetic than his other brothers. It's different, but at the same time, they still kept on who these characters are at their core, and I love that.

[@reapergrimm8]

I wasn't able to actually watch Rise because of my financial situation, but I was intrigued by the change in the formula. It's nice to mix up a franchise that had been around for decades. Otherwise you just keep rehashing the same old material. On another note, I thought they made Raph the leader to allow some character growth and exploration.

[@ItsJustJess20]

To answer that question you asked: I think all of those things you said are reasons to why Rise of TMNT made Raph the leader. Red is often a color associated with leadership, He has the most character growth in all the different versions compared to other turtles, and it is something that some fans wanted to see. Anyway, I'm very glad you enjoyed Rise of the TMNT as much as I do, despite its flaws. Also, quick note... I also enjoy Donnie. Every scene he's in is a show stealer, he's basically a combination of two of my favorite character types ( Intelligent Scientist who's Probably a Little Insane" and "Snarky Guy who Overdoses on Sarcasm and Wit") and he wears purple, which is my favorite color. Rise of the TMNT Donnie is best Donnie.

[@cryotheotter4411]

The fact most of s2 was rushed to end cause of Nick cancelling it SUCKS, so many sideplots were either rushed (Draxum and Casey's "redemption") or just dropped altogether (we never found out who Big Mama's turtle-looking bodyguard was ;-;) and it's a damn shame

[@saffronsagodlyherb5838]

i loved the moment when raph and donnie are about to go into the taxi plane and raph goes 'testing, easy, its answers that are hard' and donnies response is 'i-....LOVE YOU SO MUCH LET'S DO IT' and they risked fucking limb and life to return a dvd.... JUST TO GET HUGS FROM THEIR DAD!! like my mans was gonna throw in some pizza or $5 each or some but no THEY JUST WANTED FUCKING HUGS and donnie's reaction to when splinter said he was pround iagihw iofdsihrksamjdufgjk4uidfgmn wrjkcc hajkr.... im sorry i just love this show so much

[@mx9226]

This show had so much potential. And then it was just left to die. #SaveRiseoftheTMNT

[@aarons-animated-avenue]

I never watched much of the TMNT franchise but I always knew that rise of the TMNT was definitely something that seemed distinctly special from the iterations that came before. I had no idea of just how really amazingly comedic and stylish this show was, now I wish I had checked it out before nick went out of their way to kill it off. This was a wonderfully detailed take on the show you made.

[@Oddity-Odyssey]

Listening to your videos is like listening to your cool aunt during dessert at a family dinner when everyone has kinda left one by one and you're still there and just in complete awe. I love watching these kinds of videos because I desperately want to make my own cartoon myself! I low-key find myself taking literal notes lol On another note ROTTMNT is one of my favourite cartoons ever and I'm so glad you made a video on it! ❤️

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

Finally someone talks about this show! This is my favorite TMNT show next to the 2012 show! As a long time fan, I’ve always enjoyed some of the incarnations that mixes elements of old and fleshes it out with the new. Wish that Nick didn’t blue ball this show and give it another chance. #SaveROTTMNT

[@celestialangel666]

me: Oh, I haven't heard of these turtles...just the 80s one and-- *sees Rise of TMNT* me: 80s cheese with fight anime. got it. Good. Also as a semi-long time TMNT fan - it's because Raph and Donny are Fan Faves. Leo is "leader" only in name, and Michelangelo is the "party dude" (hums old theme). I think everyone like Raph because he was close to being a leader, and the movie also helped solidify him as kinda the heart/leader of the group - he's gruff and tends to run off on his own, but the others will do what they can to protect him too when he's hurt. Leo has a lot put on him, so the idea of the two switching roles isn't that surprising.

[@Jayday12345678910]

I'm glad some people are finally giving this show some love. I wish it was alot easier to watch this show via streaming.

[@rav_productions2136]

This reminds me of transformers animated, when it came out people absolutely hated it because it flipped everything on it's head about the property and it went in an different artstyle, yet give it an few years and this series is gonna be concidered an masterpiece, I love what they did with this series like them being different species that shows family doesn't have to be blood related

[@leilarandall9518]

I love this show because it is the exact sibling relationship I have with my siblings

[@sunnyletom]

rise is not my favourite plot-wise, but it has my favourite iterations of the turtles. they are just such a sweet family. the fact that in one of the episodes their goal is literally to get a hug from their dad is just too much for my soft heart on the draxum point, it worked for me, honestly, but i can see why other people wouldn't like that. the fact that his redemption arc overshadowed casey's is a big problem

[@Videomenkarlo002]

Great title would be The Thing about The Thing

[@starry-eyedatstarryskies1797]

I grew up with the 03 series and it's my favorite overall due to nostalgia, but I absolutely adore this show, and it has my favorite versions of Raph Donnie and Mikey, plus the family dynamic is the best it's ever been.

[@joshecdiaz8741]

I couldve sworn the reference youre refering to in 18:10 is the Iron Maiden song 2 Minutes to Midnight but i could be wrong. Great video all around, though! Can't wait for the next one! 👌🏻

[@mikailaturkleson7472]

You got it!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@mxjez]

I forgot that I was obsessed with 2012 TMNT as a kid. Thanks for the reminder even though RotTMNT is leagues better.

[@ligtningdog6399]

In the past incarnations, Raph would often butthead with Leo for leadership, with that usually being followed by Leo somehow proving that he's the better choice as leader. The writers on Rise had plan for it be part of Leo's character arc. That's he's a natural born leader but has no interest in it, leaving Raph, the having to take the role he's ill-equipped for.

[@koolaidlover2382]

1:14 this scene is so awesome! I wish all RISE haters could see this! They will surely have a change of heart for this show!

[@nevergonnagiveyouup1180]

Honestly I hate the “it’s crap” hate towards this series Because I know that a lot of it is the same sun and moon hate thing Those with genuine criticisms tend to treat them as such, address them in a respectful manner, and not go on a whining fit. It’s the drastic change (I was victim for not liking that either but I realize now that the show was good (though the superhero thing in sun and moon wasn’t something I was a fan of). But anyways it’s that drastic change that has people unwilling to open their biased minds and give a show a chance And it’s a shame. Because people like that who actively protest hate because it’s different are the very reason why we aren’t getting more fun and creative content They’re the reason why we’re stuck with the same terrible redemption plots. Why everything becomes a melodrama Actually the melodrama thing is because people lack the understanding that too serious = terrible melodrama and that the shows we praise for being serious have their share of funny moments. I mean I’m all for uncomfortable content in shows I watch. But I don’t like when shows shove all that edginess down our throats Part of the reason why, even though bojack horseman is most likely written very well, it doesn’t seem to be my cup of tea. Or at least it’s not gonna be something I can binge and would definitely need to take a bunch of breaks. Next the character designs are amazing. Y’all just mean. They’re distinct and you can tell each turtle apart and can tell actually characterization about them from the designs.

[@boomgirlbucko]

Yeah, I definitely think Draxum's redemption was rushed, I mean, HE THREW LEO OFF A ROOF! But, it's not bad enough that I'm appalled by it. I still enjoy the show. (And the movie was freaking amazing btw)

[@Zangoose5]

Thank you so much for covering the show! I just recently got into it, and have loved everything about it, sans Post villain Draxum. Cannot wait for the movie, and your coverage was fantastic!

[@bigdogfinest]

Mikaila: NO ONE SHOW THIS TO SKETCHY Sketchy: I feel calling within the force

[@drow_Lilith9940]

i have silly reason for why i want rise to keep going pretty much ever version of TMNT has CJ and april getting toghter sooo Rise go on do it

[@nerdandnerdier887]

I was hoping the Barron draxum redemption arc was gonna be a bait and switch and he couldn’t be redeemed and Nicky had to learn family was not just blood or who created you because it felt deliberately bad

[@coolcat3404]

OMG I FOUND THE SHOW IN THE EXACT SAME WAY YOU DID! I saw a screenshot of that one badass clip from the Donnie and April episode and was like "*inhale*.....WHERE DO I WATCH!" This review was very good! It touched on all the points well and i also agree that the Barons redemtion arc was dumb Great video!

[@VirtuosoI]

Something the haters of Rise don't know is that the creators were literally tasked with reworking TMNT in their own way instead of copying each iterations script from script. Hence why Ralph being leader and them having original villains and so on. The end result was something amazing and pretty thoughtful. I appreciate the most that the turtles truly love each other and their April is like this amazing big sister looking out for her little brothers.

[@ats6880]

Rise is my favorite TMNT version! I freaking love wholesome family shows. And there is no romance aside from the side characters Hypno and Warren and ex relationship with Splinter and big mama. Because 2012 TMNT was good. But it hurt to watch Donnie and Casey be stuck in an awkward love triangle with the 2012 April. Especially since she didn't like Donnie romantically at all. Rise really focused on the family dynamic, they said "I love you" far more frequently with each other despite being one of the shortest series. Not to mention they are genuinely compassionate and caring to each other. I'm not saying that the other versions of TMNT didn't have a good family dynamic, but there were a lot of repressed emotions. Sadness and loneliness were not often covered. Rise had no problem showing these very real problems that real families face. And I love that.

[@SnazzyCryptid]

The 2012 iteration is my all time favorite and I was a bit biased when I saw the ROTTMNT trailers but this video is making me consider giving it a chance, it sounds good!

[@Sherrrey]

Please do, I too was a huge fan of 2012 since I was a kid too and Rise just totally flipped my view on just how amazing this franchise could be 😭

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Rise is honestly my favourite tmnt its worth the watch ngl

[@thefanimator9386]

I love both! I have huge nostalgia for 2012 TMNT but I love rise!

[@JunebugKnight]

Thanks to you I started watching rottmnt. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MENTIONING IT IN THE TOH CUZ I'M IN LOVE WITH IT Great video btw

[@kuromichii]

Just a quick question i been trying to watch it but idk where, so is there any where specific where i can watch it?

[@JunebugKnight]

@@kuromichii You can watch it legally on Netflix Canada, if you don't live in Canada you'll need to pay for a VPN to watch it. But you can watch it illegally on KimCartoon

[@slinkysportyggr8431]

I love the show i didn’t really know it existed until like 3 months ago and now it’s a big favorite and it makes me so angry nick didn’t give it a chance so thanks for putting a review that actually shows how good rise is and how we can save it

[@featherlikescartoons5098]

I've always had a bit of a problem with the messaging surrounding Draxum's redemption. As someone who knows people who have tried to mend relationships with their parents despite a bad relationship, which did absolutly nothing, Draxum being forgiven because he's "family" rubbed me the wrong way from the start.

[@ToastyHaymaker]

One point I've seen talked about (first person I saw mention it was JaxBlade) is how the series was cut-short to make way for new projects under new names. It's the specifics on the "change in management" reason, that when new higher-ups at Nick join they like to cancel shows created by others to make way for new shows under their name. Almost like a US president.

[@sonicx24cool51]

Things I liked in Rise: 1. The Turtles having another parent besides Splinter (I liked that idea) 2. Female Casey Jones (It was an interesting choice) 3. Demon Shredder of Mystic Power 4. Foot Clan portrayal (they were like a Cult) 5. A more Mystical theme rather than a Sci-fi theme 6. April basically being the Turtles’ sister 7. Splinter with flaws that give him character development 8. The new mutant villains 9. The various Easter eggs and references to previous TMNT media 10. Bringing back some old concepts like April being black (she was black in the old comics)

[@darkdragoneclipse]

I was iffy on it at first but I ended up liking it quite a bit! I think you made wonderful points and your opinions are well worded. Also thank you for pointing out thirsting on underage characters is not okay. It shouldn't need said but y'know.

[@orangedoon1542]

I personally believe that one of the reasons they made Raph the leader this season actually had more to do with Leo- in all past versions Leo has always been the stoic leader of the group, and it really hindered on his personality as there often wasn't much of a character beneath that, so by stripping that title away from him in Rise we get to see a version of Leo where being the leader isn't his main focus, and the newly adapted Rise Raph is able to use being a leader in a new way unseen by the TMNT franchise before. SPOILERS: also, in the new film of Rise, it makes Leo's journey of becoming the new leader that much more impactful- he no longer is defined by his title like the previous versions, but now has to adapt to fit that role while having his own personality outside of it

[@choppy_citty]

OHOH!! I CAN ANSWER THE FOOT RECRUIT REDEMPTION QUESTION: Foot Recruit was never meant to be Casey in the first place! Revealed on the podcast a few weeks ago; she was supposed to be her own character, but the crew decided it would be a brilliant idea to reveal her as Casey (which it was). It's actually really surprising because there are SO many hints through the series!! Including a hockey stick in Hot Soup: The Game and her world dominating cookie company under the guise of Grandma CJ (Casey Jones). So, it worked out in the end, just not in any way anyone was expecting! And! On Draxum, I've gotta say I do kinda agree, it's just that I've never thought of it that way before, not until you explained the flawed logic behind Splinter's misled thank you to Draxum! I've only had questions as to why he sees himself as the liberator for yokai-kind DESPITE the yokai absolutely not wanting any part of going to the surface. He's even a wanted criminal in the Hidden City. I was comparing him to Peridot a lot actually, but the way he behaves is more like Jasper!

[@phlpcockrell]

That is pretty interesting! Though the hockey stick could have been a coincidence and knowing that.. by the time madame CJ came around and that episode was being produced they could have made the decision to make her Casey

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

Rise of the TMNT is definitely a fun take of the Ninja Turtles. It’s a shame that there are a hefty TMNT fans that dismiss this show due to the changes alone, and sometimes for odd reasons. Although the redemption arcs for certain characters did get rather iffy in the 2nd season. Probably has something to do with the 2nd season being cut shorter than the first one, and according to certain online sources it resulted in several episode ideas getting cut for season 2. I’m guessing it went that way due to the not so great reception it had when it got initially revealed and due to the toys not exactly selling so well, from what I’ve seen. And I’m guessing they made Raph the leader in this incarnation to differentiate this show to its predecessors even more, with this show literally getting announced immediately after the 2012 TMNT series ended, and/or they wanted to reference the song “Turtle Power” by Partners in Kryme. It was a song made to coincide with the first live action Ninja Turtles film. It has a weird goof in the lyrics mentioning Raph being the leader. Anyways, I’m curious to see how they’ll do with the Netflix movie. Did not notice that upcoming movie until I saw this video.

[@piperjistic]

I haven't watched this much but I do like the energy and animation behind it. 2012 and this one is better and (mostly rise) different than their predecessors, doing unique things with the characters.

[@trynottodothat2961]

2:30 finally some hypno love underrated

[@justinsarcedo9355]

He is actually a good character. He is threat. But, he is shown to be a funny dude with a gentleman bruiser body.

[@missizz1595]

Among Draxum & Kendra, Hypno is one of my favourite villains in Rise

[@eclair6910]

I hate when people constantly berate a reboot that isn't a carbon copy of the original material. Carmen Sandiego reboot used a lot of found family, actions having consequences (that aren't forgiven), and wonderful reimagining of various source materials. But just like the RotTMNT, because it "differs too much" from previous incarnations (what a lie). People berate both reboots and say that they aren't deserving of their titles in the franchise. All because they aren't the same "dark and mature" source material they think the franchise is. Stop demanding reboots be "faithful" (which really means a carbon copy) of other parts of their franchises. Suck up that opinion and just enjoy reboots for the original takes they bring to franchises.

[@missizz1595]

0:54 everything you’ve said so far is exactly what I did! Until I watched the Bayverse movies & Rise series did I go back on checking the rest of the TMNT fandom/content. 2:41 ARE WE TWINS OR SOMETHING???!!!!! 5:12 I freaking love how you described everything from head to toe 😂 Also you make a good point about Draxum’s redemption arc but considering that the finale was supposed to happen over the course of three seasons not 1 and a half. It was rushed but still felt kinda natural except for when Leon became leader in the last 5 seconds.

[@VictorRodriguez-bq3cl]

This show deserved more love when it came out

[@micahmx6002]

I never really thought about Baron Draxum like that. And you're totally right.

[@joaquingaravagliaolivera2406]

You made me want to give rise a second chance. When I saw the first episodes I couldn't get into it, I found it too gooffy but without substance but the way you talk about the family dynamics make me want to try again.

[@JinxedToTheCore]

I actually thought the exact same thing at the first episode but once I saw the whole thing I was very VERY into it

[@korpseknees]

It's gonna be hard to go back to the same turtles formula after Rise. I've been spoiled :(

[@hend260]

I actually grew up with 2003 Turtles being Translated on Spacetoon with my favorite being Raph, and I tried watching the first nick turtles but by the time they reached space I kinda lost interest, but this version of TMNT was awesome, they changed a lot and at first I kinda didn't know how to feel about Splinter but as the show went on and revealed everything it dawns on you how good the writing for him actually is. The show was cute, full of family love and hugs and support, characters make mistakes but do in the end realize it and change and this really is a good show I'm sad to see it go because of some idiots on nick deciding that it's not worth it

[@erinlxix]

I agree with you that the humor is amazing! I’ve laughed really hard at this! I love this show and I’m a die hard turtles fan!

[@Foustdoodles98]

Honestly, it's because of power rangers we see the color red with leadership. However with ninja turtles I never saw the color red with leadership, but with rage and anger. So it's a nice change, a weird one by a good one.

[@BlythePennyBicycle21]

For the Nicktoons episodes, the episodes that aired on Saturdays nights aired at 10:30pm. For the episodes that aired on Friday nights, it was at 8:00pm.

[@caelifornia1507]

im ngl, i just enjoy all the different variations of their names they use in the show. angelo n leon r just top tier

[@graymabesadoxography1700]

honestly, i feel like the only reason draxum was redeemed so that he could be helpful to the plot/give info on some of the more "mysterious" mystic stuff in the show. like, the writers needed the turtles to have an ally knowledgeable about the mystic stuff, and draxum was right there, so... (shrug). personally, i think that either adding in a new char (either a reimagining of a character from a previous version, or even an entirely new character) could have also worked- or maybe have given that redemption arc to huginn and muninn instead. (but also i just adore huginn and muninn bc i think they're really cute and funny and i wished we had more of them in the show)

[@ToontownAndCpenguin]

Donnie is indeed best turtle. He gets the best lines, is the most relatable, & purple is my favorite color so instant bias towards him. Heck, I was on Team Donnie for the Donnie Vs. Mikey & Donnie Vs. Raph splatfests in Splatoon 2 & I didn't even like TMNT at the time, it was more so, purple is my favorite color & he's the brains so it's obvious I must side with him, little did past me know that I'd actually watch Rise & end up favoring Donnie. It was specifically Rise themed, they had it when the show was new. If you want to check air dates, epguides is what I use, I discovered it in like 2005 & I used it to keep track of when new Danny Phantom episodes were coming out. I still use it to this day to check back on air dates of various episodes of shows & with wonky releases, it could be off, I think it got some Darkwing Duck wrong but I'm not entirely sure on that. Season 2 had so much missing potential, Nick was determined to shut this thing down & doesn't even seem like they were trying to hide it either. At least for things like Disney constantly hurting Toontown's potential as a game, it was suspected but not realized until later when plans they wanted to do was uncovered but couldn't because Disney didn't want it happening like they were purposefully sabotaging the game, granted it took them like 10 years to get it shut down where as Nickelodeon successfully shut down Rise real quick. Sucks because this is currently my favorite but I've only seen 3 seasons of 2012, if Paramount Plus would add the 4th season, that would be nice, still probably won't change my mind. Started on 2003 while waiting for season 4 to be added & I haven't been able to form a opinion of it yet given I'm 3 episodes in. Nick should of treated Rise better, could of done some great stuff if it was given the time it needed.

[@moonknightress5059]

I personally love Draxum, both as a Villain and as the morally-questionable no-patience Uncle he ended up becoming. But his redemption was painfully rushed and they should have dedicated at least half of the season to it, instead of calling it a day after 2 episodes. I think I ultimately would have preferred it if Mickey had left it at helping Draxum get an apartment and a job because he's sweet like that, and for Draxum to start mellowing out on his own from actually interacting with humans. Him willingly becoming the Turtles mystic adivsor could have been a great sign of character development.

[@rosef8253]

I figured they made Raph leader because in previous versions its usually this big point of contention between him and Leo and they just didn't want to tread the same ground.

[@pikachucutie17]

Thank you for the points on Draxum. While he’s a fun character to watch be evil and stuff, one thing that aggravated me about the fandom was how much they shipped him with Splinter, who he directly experimented on (although I forget if the mutation of Splinter was retconned to be more of an accident). Like, that’s not a cute ‘divorced dads’ dynamic as fans put it, that’s ‘I hate you for ruining my life and maybe I’ll put up with you when there’s no other option’. And I didn’t like how Splinter had to learn to be okay with him hanging around his son, despite their history, both distant and recent.

[@jabberjay3000]

I really didn’t like Draxum’s redemption either, he’s a horrible person, a WAR CRIMINAL, and tried wiping out an entire race, which Mikey’s sister is a part of, so the whole thing just felt wrong, and just icky

[@TajFaerie]

You had me at black April!

[@missizz1595]

Reminder for anyone who WANTS to watch Rise but cannot do so; I suggest downloading Windscribe VPN (it’s free) and go to Canadian Netflix. Or watch it on KimCartoon.

[@Holly-khore-levina]

For me I would rate this show roughly even with the 2012 version (the only version that had me invested enough to watch to completion), and in some ways it outclasses that season. I dig the artstyle, this is probably the most like siblings the Turtles have ever behaved, this show specifically has my favorite Raph and Donnie (the latter especially is the perfect mix of brilliant mad scientist and melodramatic theater kid), it has sharper pacing than 2012, and this is the best April by virtue of the story hitting the ground running with her as part of the crew where 2012 really liked to go back and forth on her role with the team. If this series does lose me anywhere- besides some humor that is more personal taste than anything being wrong with certain bits- it would be that some of the more recurring side and villain characters have never clicked with me, while I respect wanting to keep mostly to new villains there is a part of me that's disappointed about the lack of a few iconic mutants like Bebop and Rocksteady, and honestly there is a part of me that misses the dynamic Shredder and Splinter had in the 2012 show (ie. brothers who did fall apart because one was a massive jerk and ultimately burned the bridge permanently) and there's a part of me that wishes they could have done something similar with Splinter and Draxum instead of going the way of a redemption.

[@snazzyscorner26]

I have not seen this yet. but after that these clips? I gotta. I can't NOT do so.

[@maxschreck9988]

One Dislike? Clearly Shredder saw this video.

[@Sherrrey]

He made 54 more accounts just to dislike it 🤣 unless the foot clan joined in too

[@mothgosally9333]

My favorite turtle is definitely Donnie, but Leo comes as a close second because they both are accurate parts of of my moods/personality. But Donnie wins because he's the sassiest.

[@smallweebvlogs]

Raph was made the oldest, so, the leader and idk it was what made me resist it at first but I ***LOVE THIS SERIES OMFG WHY DIDN'T WE GET MORE EFF YOU NICKELODEON!***

[@wannabecartoonist7389]

So this show has Kuvira as an overeager hammy teenager. Amazing. Also it sounds like its leagues above the last property you talked about that had the words "Rise of" in it

[@LunaP1]

I have nothing against this iteration of TMNT as I’ve watched all of them growing up. Though the only TMNT movies I refused to watch was the latest two live action movies.

[@aangelphillips5708]

Well um ..I think the reason they wanted to put raph as the leader is to give him more depth , and change that whole ' raph is the hot head 'thing. To show what he'd do for a change.. Idk its my opinion

[@lmar3871]

I'm a tmnt fan and I actually love this show! Cause of how unique the characters are and how their facial expression and I think that this show shows more of their teenage self and besides they are call *teenage mutant ninja turtles* for nothing but this is my opinion lel

[@calliecature]

You hit al the points of why I love this show :D "Now we can talk about the unfortunate subculture that demands that all animated properties be super serious all the time, by which they actually mean superficially edgy so they don't feel insecure about liking children's properties." OOF! Roasted! "-a steven universe level of redemption where the villains feel no remorse for their actions until the apologetic heroes sucks their toes long enough" This made me laugh so hard because you're right. I never liked how Steven had to play family therapist at 14 to a bunch of adults who were supposed to know better. Your take on rottmnt's blood thicker than water also rang true. I am interested on how the crew was going to handle his redemption but they did it badly. They could've used Baron's righteousness to see he was doing more harm than good and motivate him to change. But no. They went on abuse apologist mode.

[@swordpegasus4032]

😀I am 17 and I got in to tmnt because of my dad because he was a fan of it and now I love the the turtles to this day and Mikey😀 and donnie were my favourite character from TMNT because of their characters and they love their family and friends which is awesome and I love rise of the TMNT and because of the characters and the animation is awesome and I love Mikey and donnie personalities they always make me laugh and giggle and they silly and also the action scenes are amazing and badass in my opinion.😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

[@djinnglebells241]

God I am so done with edge. Give me a Crouching Moron Occasional Badass and call it a day.

[@crossedroses4827]

Full honesty...I slept on this show hard. But after you showed that short clip in the beginning I was just like 🤩😍🤣. I had heard so many people bagging on the show for all those reasons you listed and it just sort of maybe apathetic. But I can promise you I’m going to watch this show now. And btw you are absolutely correct...Mikey is sooooo BABY!!!

[@AmeAmeTom]

Рада что хоть кому-то нравится этот мультфильм, он замечательный и я это говорю как фанатка черепах которая в фандоме уже лет 10 (но эйприл в версии нулевых далеко не декорация для меня это буквально лучшая Эйприл)