the tiktok industry plant

[@goldstarsforall]

They wrote a song about being a tumblr girl, went onto tumblr and deactivated their account in less then 5 hours. Which is iconic quite honestly

[@marsandstars27]

they also failed the shoelace test and thought Superwholock was a band....they didn't even try.

[@pingu_enjoyer2003]

@@marsandstars27 oh my god the shoelaces.... I forgot about that until I read your comment 😭😭😭 I miss pre-dashcon tumblr

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

@@marsandstars27 also they did one of those how many emo songs do you know sound on Tik tok before they deleted it, and they didnt even know I'm not okay by MCR

[@marsandstars27]

@@LocalTorchwoodIntern yea, it's like they wanted to be found out. If you were an emo on Tumblr you absolutely knew who MCR is and I'm Not Okay, Helena, or WTTBP. I was on Tumblr for a very short time and haven't been back since and I still remember that.

[@maxyb3914]

@@marsandstars27 let's not forget the "fanaccount" who put a screenshot of the trampstamp official acc in a tweet defending them and it said "edit profile"

[@dberka210]

This is not the direction I was expecting the new Powerpuff Girls show to go

[@carolinekopack3872]

Underrated comment

[@Siennarchist]

Now i wanna know which of them is which Powerpuff girl

[@NAME-yg8sl]

I hope this isn't how they will remake it...

[@lanhthedragonprincess7540]

Lol 😆😂

[@lightworker221]

Glad to see they brought Bunny back, but I'm concerned about what happened to Buttercup.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

i love how barely anyone knows their names. theyre just blue purple and pink or the weed smoking gfs

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@Brook Hoffer SAME I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A RECREATION OF THEM 😭😭😭

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@Brook Hoffer this is like their pokemon evolution. at their final evolution they actually smoke weed

[@nonbinarybastard]

Why do u have so many subs with no vids I mean is it just the sick pfp

[@kebrinab13]

You took it backkkkkk 😂

[@MrSkeltal268]

I’ve heard some say their names are gaslight, gatekeeper, and girlboss

[@nancySIX]

Saying “We see you, we hear you” to marginalised groups is THE most condescending thing I’ve ever heard.

[@mayhem9052]

Right, there’s no amount of mental gymnastics you could do to justify that statement being anything but an insult to marginalized groups intelligence

[@basedmarxist1762]

“We see you, we hear you.....but there’s nothing we can actually DO, sorry”

[@donttalktomebye]

literally....i think ive only seen it used once where it wasn't absolutely awful. it feels like very "im sorry you feel that way :///"

[@andrewt836]

Reminds me of Bill Burr’s bit on SNL about white women swinging their Gucci boots over the line to stand alongside minorities and claim oppression.

[@randomuserwitharandomname6183]

Companies do that all the time and you are completely right on how condescending it is

[@blehe38]

Honorable mention to them claiming they were tumblr girls in one of their songs, only for them to be almost immediately chased off of the site by people spamming "bug ass" on all of their posts.

[@SareeseTheFirst]

HAHAHA

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

They underestimated the sheer insanity you need to survive on that site I'm fucking wheezing

[@plinko-moss]

I saw that while browsing tumblr and it was awesome

[@katt-nokjoke3688]

tumblr legit is like. somehow both more chill than Twitter and also hell

[@breedlejuice8691]

They were chased off five hours after the account was made~

[@caithenry8429]

Someone pointed out that their roots are all the same length and I can't unsee that now, that they most likely all had to dye their hair at the same time when they "organically became a band" 🙃

[@ItsActuallyKate]

Also the fact that its undamaged and a uniform color, hinting at the fact they got it done with olaplex at a salon

[@roxanafilgueira1094]

Not only that, i saw someone pointing out that their roots are fake and done like that intentionally to make them look more "authentic". One of them is blonde.

[@echuparosa]

This comment needs more likes. I can't unsee it now either

[@melanieg.9092]

@@ItsActuallyKate yeah the uniform fresh colour on three out of three is sus

[@gz5405]

@@roxanafilgueira1094 this makes it so much funnier omg

[@Liz_ArdE]

"Make Tampons Free LLC" is an amazing example of how do you do fellow kids. "Hey, the kids sure do like a social cause! How about we name our limited liability company after one? They'll love it!"

[@Jayfive276]

It reminds me of the Spice Girls “girl power” thing. They never actually did anything about it, they just yelled it while doing peace signs and making faces.

[@jacklandismusic]

That’s like starting a company called “Defund the Police Inc.” that likes to publicly complain about police violence, but doesn’t actually do anything financially to help stop it. It’s pandering to socially and politically conscious young people in order to try and get money from them. They think we’re idiots, and it’s incredibly insulting.

[@Jayfive276]

@@jacklandismusic “Defund the police, rolling straight from the underground...” - just doesn’t have the same punch does it?

[@supervamp78]

@@Jayfive276 now fight me about some spice girls

[@str4yk1dsw0rldd0minati0n]

@@Jayfive276 For me I always thought they showed girl power but just being themselves, they were all powerful woman to me

[@thesmootsays69]

they have a strong "if lena dunham started a punk band" energy

[@chrislawuk]

Looooooool

[@autumnmatthew3185]

Omggg I thought the exact same thing, it’s like if Girls was a punk band

[@echuparosa]

🤣

[@11mazatl]

if wine moms tried to dress like e girls and market music to teens

[@Eli_JK]

THATS who they reminded me of

[@fangsfrthmmrs]

tramp stamps: claim to have grown up on paramore, evanescence, pat benatar, and avril lavigne. tramp stamps: claim they are the first to make music about things women talk about. and somehow don't recognize one of evanescence's most popular songs when it comes up on a basic emo put a finger down challenge

[@aff77141]

One of the most recognizeable ones, as well; I don't know a single person on the internet in the past 8 years that hasn't heard that one

[@fangsfrthmmrs]

@@aff77141 yeah, it's really quite odd

[@Owesomasaurus]

Evanescence somehow being classic punk standards is how I know I am old

[@jsc315]

That's really funny

[@genoamiibo]

didnt like. none of them know what evanesence was on their q&a lol

[@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent]

Honestly the lyrics “I can’t remember the time I slept with a somebody I actually like” says more about you and your standards than them, if you’re not into them then don’t sleep with them.

[@ddjsoyenby]

same.

[@gogomarioloshi]

Right? I thought I was the only one that got confused by that lyric. Complain about not being able to orgasm but then you have sex with people you don't like??? This lyric was so weird that I just assumed they meant "actually like" as in have feelings for. If they mean find attractive or something, they're expecting to orgasm and have a good time with someone they just aren't attracted to.

[@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent]

@@gogomarioloshi I never thought of it in that way but still a crap song with a shitty message.

[@sarasthoughts]

Sometimes people just want to have sex even tho there's nobody decent around, and that's okay.

[@ileutur6863]

@@sarasthoughts Its not though. Hookup culture is highly toxic and damaging

[@discovolante.23]

Them: "no one's ever put it into this kind of music before" Me: *screams in riot grrl*

[@nickolaslong1806]

Hey Violet is something 100% better . Also know as Cherri Bomb.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

screams in basically all feminist punk music

[@archer1949]

You’re No Rock n Roll Fun.

[@piffba]

@@nickolaslong1806 I was just about to comment them! Very underrated

[@RosieG9012]

Even like, Lily Allen has a song that’s basically exactly the same scenario

[@narrastalgia4718]

I just appreciate that the industry who planted them decided that instead of finding a handful of tik tok E girl teens who are trying to get a following and smushing them together, they chose to grab some fully grown women and dressed them in Avril Lavigne Halloween costumes

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Avril Lavigne Halloween Costumes lmfao Gotdamn you went right for the throat and I love it

[@marcusanark2541]

BRUTALITY! FLAWLESS VICTORY!

[@lilamasand5425]

the fact that they had merch was what really stuck out to me as suspicious. also the "we see you, we hear you" in that tiktok made me cringe so hard dslkfjlakjfsldkjglsdj the vibes are just so OFF in every video where they're talking

[@noiz1762]

It's SUCH a corporate line lmfaoo

[@zakhawker344]

genuinely surprised they haven't tried to say folx or y'all yet

[@ddjsoyenby]

they're basically "trying to be twitter" band.

[@TwixtheFox]

@@zakhawker344 But... Why is y'all bad? :c I'm from Texas and everyone says it all the time here. Or are you trying to say y'xll? Which is completely stupid lol

[@zakhawker344]

@@TwixtheFox oh if it's an actual part of your dialect that's totally fine. I just mean when people who wouldn't normally say y'all do, because it's like an Internet thing or whatever. Pretty sure it started from AAVE on twitter.

[@InTheMorningSnow]

My favorite thing is, they were clearly unprepared for how bloodthirsty tumblr users. I heard they ended up deleting it in less than 24 hours

[@westbel1866]

They were gone in 5 lmfao

[@luiza.limaneves]

Aaaand they failed the shoelace test oh we

[@maddiedoesntkno]

BUG ASS

[@JBloodthorn]

@@luiza.limaneves They didn't want to admit that they stole them.

[@luiza.limaneves]

@@JBloodthorn yeah well I wouldn't either, I'm told the president takes those claims very seriously

[@trashpanda9377]

It angers me that they're pretending to be punk/alt while also being so obviously industry backed. They're trying to get in to a genre that is anti-capitalist while being a cash grab. Also they have such a good name and it's a shame it didn't get used by an actual riot grrrl band

[@inchw0rm]

omg forreal i wish someone else had that name first lol

[@myownbravado]

@@inchw0rm There is another band that had that name first! I believe it's an all male band and I'm not sure what their music is like, but I've seen the discourse about it on tumblr and twitter a couple times. I would tell you to look into it, but I'm not super sure how considering they have the same name and are probably buried because of all this drama.

[@mayhem9052]

Dude we need a new riot grrl wave bro

[@jakublulek3261]

They are more fake than Sex Pistols. And that is kinda sad.

[@meepmoop2308]

@@jakublulek3261 at least sex pistols has some good songs

[@katied1744]

"no one's put it into this kind of music before" has big Lana Del Rey "paved the way for other women" energy

[@phantasticgrump]

One of them use to make Lana Del Rey type music. I dont care enough to remember which one but yaaa

[@lilli554]

@@phantasticgrump the pink one

[@smalltiddypunkgf]

literally they're like if a 90s riot grrl band was transported to 2021. its been done before, and we've moved past the need for it.

[@peachy_lili]

@@smalltiddypunkgf that's kinda lame. some of us have friends who are currently in really good riot grrl bands. let's not shit on the entire genre like it doesn't need to exist, lol. people can like what they like.

[@daddylonglegs3420]

@@smalltiddypunkgf they are not in any way riot grrrl whatsoever, and to day people are over riotgrrrl is ridiculous. its still a movement that i think it important for punk as a whole and is also an easy way to meet up with people who agree with you since the genre is so small now

[@nate2657]

“Gaslight. Gatekeep. Girlboss. Fuck you!” just made me burst out laughing idk why

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

I remember reading a KZbin comment that says, " Gaslight gatekeep girlboss is the new live laugh love"

[@bridgetdoherty1181]

They look like if Simon Cowell discovered the Hex Girls from Scooby Doo but tried to rebrand them for gen Z

[@maurreese]

😂😂😂😂

[@chamber8234]

Dont you DARE compare these losers to my girls (The Hex Girls obviously) 😤

[@jinkieez]

HELPPPPPP

[@echuparosa]

😂

[@pichuuu]

PLSSS

[@CyberStockholmSyndrome]

I hate that whenever women who are scammy get called out, they automatically jump to “This is sexism!” And it’s like...No, Allison. Holding women accountable isn’t sexism.

[@Dulanimare]

its the white woman victimhood 🙄

[@allisonelizabeth6596]

Hey!

[@subliminal5543]

like calling out a someone who is a woman doesn't equate to being sexist

[@radiantsquare007jrdeluxe9]

actually it is

[@bryandickson2037]

@@Dulanimare it goes far beyond race. Let’s be honest

[@maxyb3914]

The blue one just saddens me tbh, she's been married for years, she wrote for very big people and seemed to live a quiet life, her vibe is so off compared to the other 2

[@tired2166]

she seems to be the punching bag too even tho Marisa (purple) is much, much worse.

[@sonicthehedgegod]

ive been thinkin i kinda like her tbh... she kinda feels separate from the other two and it’s kind of a bummer she’s fucked it all up with all this

[@maxyb3914]

@@sonicthehedgegod ikr, she got pushed into the limelight to a completely different audience and the role she got assigned is just completely opposite to the life she had prior to the group

[@lexnight]

Yeah, admittedly I only saw the clips here but she comes off very different to the other two.

[@QtPieMarth]

I think it's also interesting that she's the one who has actually attempted to be open in their Q&As and other such promos that they have industry backing. In the clips shown in this video, she's the one bringing up their social media being "consistent" due to an agency. She seems much more open about the actual experience than the other two and seems to be the one actually willing to come forth with the information people are actually asking for.

[@Seanologues]

Honestly the biggest red flag was them referencing tumblr in one of their songs. No one who actually uses tumblr admits it

[@itskindofemily]

Its just so "hello fellow kids"

[@catnip202xch.]

Lmao

[@fayevalentina77]

at least not anymore lol

[@aidoll3692]

It's up there with a social security number

[@Nadia1989]

Eh. I admit using it, but not to everyone. And my username is a secret I'll take to my grave.

[@xollefi7418]

my favourite thing about "I'd Rather Die" is that it's not even difficult to write a song about hating men, yet they still fucked it up. for me that's the biggest sign of their hypocrisy and their pandering.

[@nastycrimeboii]

you can't just say "is slick halal" and then expect me to be able to get through the rest of the video

[@garbagegremlins4707]

Yeah I want to know more about why this even came about

[@weeabooper]

That part bit me and I'm still treating the wound

[@dunyamarkovic6842]

The one who started it was @omarsbigsister on tiktok be warned it gets worse

[@bluealien-mae]

But is it halal? Anyone know?

[@OnewBiased]

I'm so mad i don't have a drink to sprout because i'm fasting lol i don't expect it to come up at all!

[@-el-gato]

I can’t believe that they are all supposedly accomplished songwriters writing for other people but the best they could come up with for themselves was I’d Rather Die.

[@sweetpeabee4983]

Considering what the song's about, why go with "I'd Rather Die" when "I'd Rather Bi" is RIGHT THERE lol

[@sforbesgocka]

it’s an attempt to seem real rustic and diy. a lot of seminal punk has incredibly stupid lyrics, but that was the point. the point here is to imitate that because it’s easier than putting effort into their musical abilities.

[@daddylonglegs3420]

@@sforbesgocka they remind me if the song DIY or Die by Vial lmfao

[@thedestroyasystem]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t even write the lyrics

[@marcusanark2541]

This is the most incriminating aspect that wasn't talked about enough.

[@fortuneokay]

not the “quibi of industry plants” 💀😭😭😭

[@steverogersstark]

Also the whole “it’s not fair to leave me hanging like this” is a tactic used by men to pressure women into sex soooo the fact that they even thought this was some kind of a good idea is gross

[@velentr]

I guess a smarter band could have do so, on purpose, to adress the pressure and 'tactics' that sexual predators exploit. If that was their intent here though, it wasnt made clear and as such it fails.

[@suckonmahd]

like they really thought they did something lmao. Like they weren't even being satirical. It's giving female manipulator... It's gross. And even then it's still a gross thing to put in a song like that

[@josezepeda315]

why Caro isn’t the lead singer? Because I also agree that she’s the better vocalist. Something tells me that the management groups that totally “didn’t” plant this band in the scene probably based it on looks.

[@-el-gato]

if i see a new band in the alt/diy scene and they don’t have a bandcamp, i always think they’re pretty sus

[@willywonka3050]

The hallmark of a true indie/diy band is not being on any streaming platform.

[@lunocturneholydaughter8087]

I was thinking this.

[@becknorland587]

@Exodus N I don’t actually know why I chose to be on streaming platforms first, I think it was just a cool thought and now I realize it’s not much different than SoundCloud and I’m wasting money on it

[@teodorapetkovic]

I just can't get over the fact they're trying to market to a community that's all about originality and being/accepting yourself, while definitely not being themselves. Like, those clothes don't look *lived in*? Also on every video when they are in the same room they look like they would rather (die- no no) run off? And they dare to say they are good friends? Honestly it's painful to watch

[@mrthewhite2620]

"No one has put this into music before" - Pink would like a word with you lol. Or literally any female solo singer.

[@jsc315]

Not only that. That wish disregards all the awesome female lead punk babe from the 70s

[@hugofontes5708]

the moment I heard that statement, it physically hurt they trampled over a ton of punk people

[@SarahJareth]

Dolly Parton would like to have a word

[@bread1882]

Avril Lavigne, she did everything they tried to do perfectly and she did it right

[@magicrainbowkitties1023]

Or literally the entire riot grrrl movement

[@lane13]

oh no this is definitely an industry plant. “We see you, we hear you” it’s a done deal, such a pr/industry thing. woke marketing at its finest edit: they’re worse than a plant; they’re a test to see if gen z wants a woke relatable band. which is incorrect.

[@whatislife3603]

They’re a fake woke relatable band. There are already tons of those that are TikTok based mess

[@whatislife3603]

Not

[@whatislife3603]

So true. It’s so obvious

[@snakewithapen5489]

We're not getting a woke relatable band being paid from any giant music industry out there because to be genuine to Gen-Z's ideals they would have to be anti-corporate

[@ZytrikX]

I don’t even think gen z knows what we want tbh 😂

[@whistlingbanshee5038]

Ah, my bimonthly "Amanda reminds me why I'm not on TikTok" notification!

[@kooeykooeykooey]

yeah, i had 0 interest in tiktok before i started watching her, but her videos have taken my interest into the negatives.

[@willywonka3050]

I might make a tiktok account just to gawk at cults like “reality shifting”

[@thebestame3582]

You dramatically mouthing over their song is probably in my top 10 Swell Entertainment moments 😂

[@artcmkys]

lol can you list the other 9?

[@Forslimjims]

It feels like purple is the ringmaster and the other two just wanted to have fun and make a band.

[@connorchaffin6271]

Is your user name a fall out boy song?

[@AudioZer0]

Their roots are all the same length 😂 they all went to the salon on the same day to put on their new personas

[@factsandlogic.8762]

and they paid $300 for it lmao

[@melanieg.9092]

goddamn now I have flashbacks to dan&phil punksona videos O.o

[@dragonmoose5489]

Hilarious! ✨

[@meghans6556]

I've seen some ppl theorizing that trampstamps was made specifically for purple bc they want to propel her. So shes the lead singer then when trampstamps fail theyll break up and shell be able to continue alone with a boost

[@Emh19]

I think they have to be industry plants because they are all employed as songwriters so there is no way they would write 'I'd rather die' like that, the song reeks of 50 y/o men trying to figure out what their daughters would like

[@duelbraids]

every video of the tramp stamps gives me like. the girls who used to make fun of you in high school but then decided the music you like is cool now.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Exactly

[@eduardapimentel1692]

Omegaverse during Ramadan. These words make sense to me separetely but together I cannot process it

[@mojojojo3212]

Now I’m just sitting here wondering 😭😭

[@annie10103]

If we assume that slick works on the same basis as a menstrual cycle, an Omega would not be expected to fast during Ramadan. And if an Alpha were to eat the slick for whatever haram reason, they would actually be breaking their fast for that day. Omegaverse = unhalal

[@tarotsushima3332]

@@annie10103 The fact that this is even a discussion-

[@pro.fessionalcomplainer]

@@annie10103 damn can i have unread button in my brain lol

[@nm541]

@@annie10103 wow I hate everything about that

[@fizzify3000]

You know how it’s obvious when someone is dressed up to play a character that is nothing like them? I get that vibe from every image I see of them

[@jsc315]

We called that a poser in my day.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Subconsciousness ain’t no fool

[@sophie_drachen]

That's an eloquent way of saying "poseur."

[@killeravocado]

The Omegaverse during Ramadan is not a combination of things I ever thought would occupy my head at the same time so thanks i guess?

[@mojojojo3212]

Not something that ever crossed my mind omg

[@ivxx7815]

the discussion sorrounding slick is one of the funniest things ive ever witnessed in my life, nothing will top this for me

[@everylaurenislemons]

So uh...what is slick? 😶

[@tarotsushima3332]

@@everylaurenislemons Trust me, you don't wanna know.

[@adshille8987]

@@everylaurenislemons it's exactly what it sounds like

[@hahaveggie]

Honestly if they started off as a pop group, I don’t think they would have gotten as bad of backlash

[@NoName-dx1no]

Agree, it’s the demographic they were trying to appeal to that caused this backlash, the alt and punks ideology is that it’s against the norm being anti capitalistic, being true to yourself etc so they are basically doing the opposite of it

[@wowzerswoow]

My favourite TikTok to their song was someone pointing out they followed guys with the names of those in the song on Instagram. I also absolutely love the “you guys are all white, straight and cis” post they responded to with “Marisa is literally Italian” Edit: this wasn’t about Italians. I like the idea that it was to rebuttle the cis one Please stop debating POC issues on the replies to this

[@aff77141]

WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE THINK ITALIANS ARE A DIFFERENT RACE 😂 😂 😂

[@brentraptor]

that screenshot was fake i'm pretty sure but can you imagine

[@angstbringer2992]

Me, WOC, at my very white italian friends: lmaoooo guys you're now POC because the Tramp Stamps said so

[@oopsallbugs]

@@brentraptor it wasn't

[@ninab2509]

@@oopsallbugs it is fake it was a troll account

[@nusratrayhan7466]

I hate the way that blue and pink were staring at us in the background while purple talked.

[@ImmaPerson23]

I keep seeing people mention that their clothes are from Dollskill too

[@MutleeIsTheAntiGod]

Yikes

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Nooooooo

[@lilapilla2]

Say what you will about Tumblr as a website, but they can ruin you within hours if they get even so much as a WHIFF of inauthenticity. Bug Ass forever

[@Dulanimare]

tbh not even just inauthenticity bc i remember tumblr chased off alex jones after he tried to make an info wars blog by spamming him w messages that they were gonna fuck his wife lol

[@Nadia1989]

And pizza. Don't forget pizza.

[@jennafisher8403]

Yikes.

[@jennafisher8403]

@@Dulanimare oh wow that's SO funny 😒

[@Maialeen]

mango That is...so gross. Alex Jones is a horrifying man. But to then spam him with messages about doing something to his wife instead of trolling HIM as a person. What you described might as well be r*pe threats. Funny, and by funny I mean horrifying how men do terrible things and we focus on the women in their lives.

[@mojojojo3212]

You can’t just say omegaverse in Ramadan and expect us to not want context 😭😭😭😭😭

[@kikolopita2965]

Yeah I need to know now

[@bigboi6338]

What on earth that even means where am i?

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@mindpearlgirl Well that sounds like a boring rule-

[@haileygiabiconi8830]

@@mindpearlgirl noooooo!!!

[@maurreese]

😭😂😂😂 what?!

[@Monocultured01]

Everyone's pointed out how they're a pop punk band that doesn't know some of the largest bands and songs of the genre, but what also really strikes me is that they act like riot grrrls never existed and they're breaking ground for being an all female punk band. Big shock, they're not and are just exposing their own lack of research into the music they make.

[@solarprogeny6736]

Also can we talk about how the color coded hair is so unoriginal and sort of stolen from NON industry plant groups such as Stefani's Child, the drag queen group with Rosé, Jan and Lagoona Blu in Pink Purple and Blue hair

[@Ninatic]

I mean yea but it goes a BIT farther back than that

[@solarprogeny6736]

@@Ninatic I know, just saying it's been done before by other more legitimate groups, and if you wanna stan one I gave an example. Personally I have a brain that is really responsive to color coding etc, synesthesia and all that, so I'm into that aesthetic.

[@solarprogeny6736]

@@SpyderT22 read second comment. stolen is used for emphasis

[@kolcheks]

that’s the first thing i thought of when i saw them😭😭😭

[@shelbyb9965]

"No one's ever put it into this kind of music before" Song lyrics: "It lasts like one or two seconds and you're done and want to spoon, I'm just saying *it's not fair* to leave me hanging like this" Yeah Lily Allen wrote that song in 2009. It's literally called Not Fair lmaooo

[@docsmooth]

Most if not all of the boy bands from the 80's, 90's and early 2000's were "industry plant" bands. Put together by a marketing group. Songs, dance's, general look and act of the band members all controlled by management. They didn't really even hide it. Still sold millions of records, made millions of dollars. Just own it and move on. Maybe I'm just old now and don't get the new, younger generations would receive such a thing.

[@Liz_ArdE]

Personally, I wouldn't really care if a band was planted or not but I do think I'm in the minority of my age group on that opinion. Gen z adores authenticity more than basically everything, we/they (I still don't know what I am) honestly don't even care if you're doing something objectively good, as long as you're being real about it. Now more than ever, genuine talent from very humble places can receive the spotlight that people think they deserve, so I think the tolerance for things like this is just really low.

[@gilded_lady]

I think the difference is is that no one cared back in the day and we all knew they were constructed. They weren't pretending to really be indie

[@jaash7981]

I mean extremely popular boybands are still industry plants to this day. Some bands have more freedom than others and some individual members have the "rags to riches" story, but they are manufactured nonetheless. Edit: and I say this as a huge kpop stan. They're all manufactured even the ones who have a lot of creative control like BTS, Stray Kids, and G-Idle. The only group i can think of that's not that manufactured anymore is GOT7 but that's because they left their management.

[@brib6046]

Lots of Gen Zers love KPop and all of those groups are industry plants

[@pingu_enjoyer2003]

@@brib6046 at least kpop idols don’t hide that they’re industry plants 😭 the issue is when these girls try to come off as punk and indie when they’re.... just not

[@katesicle]

Tbh as kpop fan I have no problem with manufactured groups but as someone the same age as them who went to high school with girls exactly like them (down to the styling) I don’t get why they’re trying to pander so hard to gen z when anyone with a brain could see they’d get laughed off the internet

[@angygremlin4423]

I don't understand why they're so intent on creating a riot grrl band. If you're an industry plant or manufactured group, don't pick a genre of music that is anti-establishment at its core. It's going to end badly!

[@mariacamilavega1720]

The thing with Kpop groups is that they're not fake or inauthentic. The fact that they're manufactured really can't negate their work or talent. They're all people who have worked their asses off in order to secure a place in the industry, go through training and practice and have a real passion for music. Kpop groups wouldn't work at all if the members didn't put their blood sweat and tears on them. And it works because it's real, it's genuine, and bands thrive because of that. Industry plants commonly have one big hit and flop, or no hits and flop completely. Best examples I can think of right now would be Baby Goth and Jumex. The issue many people have with these girls is how fake everything feels. They have zero chemistry, their songs are mediocre if not terrible, and their feminist punk aesthetic feels like a mockery to the style/subculture. They claim to be something they're probably not, which is an independent punk band, while the kpop industry and formula is no secret. In the words of xxxtentacion, what's real prospers, and industry plants are the prime example of it.

[@whatislife3603]

So true

[@Jenninka]

Maybe they’d have been more successful if they tried a different genre and marketed to millennials instead?I don’t get any of the reasoning behind any of the choices that were made here

[@ddjsoyenby]

agreed but just own it and be honest and make intentionally fun music.

[@ulaff]

"home grown start up" doesn't sound like a riot grl music thing... literally just a country music thing. they may have actually worked with that though. maybe lmao

[@ddjsoyenby]

yeah.

[@ulaff]

@Crow It would be an excellent opportunity for them to... idk... be closer to their "roots" but I really doubt it

[@J0IJ0IJ0I]

“We see you we hear you” is how you know some bullshit is gonna be spit. 🥴

[@jaash7981]

Its barely a minute and the word "omegaverse" has been mentioned Pain (Also this has big "how do you do fellow kids" energy. Except 2014 tumblr)

[@godminnette2]

You are my sole window into TikTok and it is such a wonderful window into such a... Unique place

[@SuperNicktendo]

I mean, it's perfectly fine to have experience in the industry before creating a project from zero. If I started a new KZbin channel with what I learned over the 4 years I'm sure the first video would look substantially more polished than someone just starting out. They clearly seem like people who thought they could capitalize on the ticktok trend by writing songs that check all the gen z boxes. And what happened is that you can't fake authenticity. At least now it takes more effort

[@MrBaskins2010]

She’s talking about the nuances of race with her purple hair and PURPLE RAIN t shirt. Prince is SMHin from heaven

[@rochellesmith8427]

ikr and they didn't even know 2000s rock bands like mcr

[@lainiwakura1776]

Prince is wondering where his damn lawyer is sue to her for copyright infringement. And he's in hell, he was a Jehovah's Witness.

[@maevemonroe]

Your spoken-word poetry version of I'd Rather Die is a better song than the actual song.

[@ddjsoyenby]

they took a twitter thread and tried to make a punk song of it.

[@maevemonroe]

@@ddjsoyenby if I could play any instruments at all I would make punk songs out of real twitter fights. That'd be amazing

[@ddjsoyenby]

@@maevemonroe same.

[@ididntknowtheyhadwifiinhell]

needs more ENUNCIATING and GESTICULATING (saying this as someone whose whole yt page is just a playlist of my favorite spoken word poems) and "____, which is to say, _____" which is basically spoken word poetry's version of lemony snicket's "a word which here means"

[@jtlovescodelyoko]

You know it's not worth it for me to have a tiktok I'll just watch Amanda's channel for any of that weirdness to be discussed to me

[@crypticcorgi8280]

Code Lyoko was a good show.

[@nerdythespian1212]

You missed the best part of how they tried to go to Tumblr and got run of IN FIVE HOURS.

[@Jenninka]

The overall idea of “I’d Rather Die” could have worked for me if it was from the perspective of a lesbian talking about her experience with comp het and vowing never to take part in it again

[@meepmoop2308]

Also it'd have to omit the "white" part. As if POC straight men aren't as bad as their white counterparts

[@ididntknowtheyhadwifiinhell]

even then, bashing men as a whole is so boring. specificity is what makes lyrics interesting and personal. and i'm tired of the "became a lesbian because she hates men" myth when actually it's about attraction to women and men are irrelevant

[@crypticcorgi8280]

@@ididntknowtheyhadwifiinhell Political lesbianism is a thing and I am certain she is one.

[@nabuchodonosormcgalapatram6941]

About the "experience with a straight guy" thing, is this something common among lesbians? As a gay man, I never ever wanted to have sex with a woman, simply because I'm not attracted to women, I assume it's the same for lesbians, but I could be wrong... I'm not talking about someone unsure about their sexuality and testing stuff, btw, I'm talking about someone who already know what they are into.

[@Nadia1989]

It's sounds like a song written by a man

[@kentrzacherl]

THEY COLOR CODED THESE GIRLS

[@patchchrist]

Just like the Rock Flowers, but no Barbie dolls of them tho.

[@dd7340]

Dr Luke wrote Say So for Doja Cat and multiple songs for Kim Petras. Under his alternate name.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Yo 😵

[@alizardinyourroom1361]

God I hate that they said like "no one has done this before" about their music when theirs so many amazing all woman rock bands out there, and some are from like the 70s!!!! AHHHH

[@marohoh]

This is the content I need. I am a millennial and I refuse to make a tik tok cause I don't want to watch underage people doing inappropriate stuff (I sound old ). But yeah, this is how I keep up.

[@greeneyesgirl467]

You can fix your algorithm so you don't see young kids. 👍🏼

[@marohoh]

@@greeneyesgirl467 really? You can filter out underage people? I'm listening 🧐

[@SarahJareth]

@@greeneyesgirl467 someone should do that to James Charles's account since he keeps having such bad luck finding minors

[@KassandraQuiseng]

@@marohoh tiktok creates an algorithm just for you so if you like baking and cats that’s all you’ll see. I’ve never seen any of the dances, challenges, or any of that. You just need to find your niche.

[@BurlapRat]

I love when people get called out nowadays their response is always "sexist, aegist, cancel culture, some kind of phobic" like make sure you don't recognize the criticism and try to make a positive change just tell people that they're being bullies.

[@faerieminds]

lmao they tried to come to tumblr but they got bullied off in like record time because can you imagine

[@gregoryboatswain1605]

I'm not sure if that should be a point of pride 😕

[@faerieminds]

@@gregoryboatswain1605 Yeah lets see... industry plants came to a site where clout does not exist, follower counts are not visible, and literally nobody gives a flying shit about fame - but has a distinct culture - and tried to inject themselves into it while trying to retain the clout-chase mindset of TikTok and got made fun of for being disingenuous, so they left.

[@MutleeIsTheAntiGod]

Lmao being bullied off Tumblr is kind of a disaster

[@Sasskwaatch]

I am so glad that you also found yourself on A/B/O Ramadan tiktok. What a week.

[@dramabelle1]

“The Quibi of Industry Plants” is the harshest burn I think I’ve heard in a looong time.

[@watchingtheworlduk5253]

I have a friend that is in a band. Their music is very very well produced but their music videos are 4 fours guys with an iPhone not bad just it's obvious they don't have a film crew. The level of production value on their videos alone to me says they are being a little bit dishonest about their background. Making high production value music isn't "hard" if you have good connections. In the case of my friend their local radio lent them their studio for a few hours when they weren't using it and they did all the mastering themselves they put in the hours and the graft and their first EP shows it. For a music video like that you need a full crew. Crews are expensive the time alone that that video would consume would be more money than a real indie band would make in a year.

[@satansenpai383]

well cmon bruh drop the band name

[@teodorapetkovic]

exactly!! we need their band name tho, I wanna check 'em out!

[@watchingtheworlduk5253]

@@satansenpai383 The Wildflowers (pull me on your strings is one of their songs to help you find them because it's a really common name in music apparently)

[@watchingtheworlduk5253]

@@teodorapetkovic The Wildflowers yer actually probably should have included that 😭

[@teodorapetkovic]

@@watchingtheworlduk5253 thank youu

[@stringcheese6833]

Their lyrics are so hollow. It's like if you fed an AI a bunch of random, out of context lyrics and told it to make a song. I can't put my finger on it, but it feels like it's just "sex amirite???"

[@Eyebrowking_kkslider]

I've never even seen one of their tiktoks but they plague my KZbin lol. I'm glad you're making a video on them because I love your videos :)

[@unouni2548]

When you said Quibi the captions read Quimbee and I don't think there's something more telling and savage than that little detail 😂

[@n_r_2324]

"Sings in cursive". I now know how to describe my singing voice.

[@Llamanescent]

I sing in Comic Sans.

[@n_r_2324]

@@Llamanescent Noice.

[@stephenpmurphy591]

I sing in a catatonic state, it's very deep & moody....no copyrighted material other than what I've plagiarized. ......and that's only happened once after a long night of drinking poitin......really.

[@cosmicandy4620]

Jack stauber

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I was obsessed with this trainwreck for like 6 hours a few days ago. Glad someone has decided to make a video and officially document this whole mess lol

[@Fiona_Co]

I saw someone post a comment about them somewhere along the lines of: "they tried to pander to one of the communities that values authenticity more than anything and it massively backfired" which is so true. Whether they are industry plants or not they are clearly not authentic and it's honestly comical how quickly they were found out.

[@Vampress09]

Amanda is always so into these tiktok sagas that she ends up making them riveting.

[@carolharumi1145]

Also the tiktok where not even ONE of them knew bring me to life and then claimed to have Amy Lee as an inspiration smh

[@angairbender]

I’ve already watched 2 others videos covering this, from KZbin recommending them to me. But out of respect for Swell I shall still watch

[@evillady458]

thank you for all of this tiktok content, you keep me young

[@13al200]

It’s funny how they have a problem with The Tramp Stamps working with Dr.Luke, but it’s all crickets when he wrote “Say So” for Doja Cat... 🌚🥴

[@GoldRubyProduction]

Just discovered them a few days ago too! I just get a "performative aggression" vibe from them - it's very weird 😬

[@willywonka3050]

Performative aggression is very much the norm in music, and very few punk/metal bands go beyond verbal aggression. Actual aggression like in the DC hardcore scene of the mid-80s and the Scandinavian black metal scene of the early 90s usually results in people getting hurt, or killed.

[@louisaa144]

Idk if anyone else sees this but they give off major Totally Spies undercover as a girl group to catch a bad guy vibes

[@Xxx_EvilSmurf_xxX]

I’d rather die is just “No Scrubs - TLC” but white.

[@leech5453]

the vibes arent even the same....what (and its TLC)

[@MrSkeltal268]

Except I'm definitely blasting No Scrubs with the windows down.

[@solomcfc82]

You can't compare this 'I'd rather die' shit with TLC!!!!!

[@feralperil]

No Scrubs is a bop, don't disrespect TLC like this

[@shawnalynn5198]

Whoa don't even mention No Scrubs in the same sentence as this shit, how dare u

[@allisonlaurel]

Tiktok has really been wild lately lol. I have all three of the things you mentioned on my fyp lately and it's so much. Edit: Also "the quibi of industry plants" is such a good comparison lol

[@johnnemblem]

Thank God you made a video on this, I saw the other videos but was to lazy to watch them but was intrigued and now I’ll know

[@lolaleclerc2879]

I've never heard about this group or the controversies related to it before so let me tell you how I was surprised when I first heard the terms "Omegaverse during Ramadan".

[@anunaskedforopinion]

17:04 OMG those lyrics sound like if someone used an AI to write twitter posts that were supposed to be from a 14 year old.

[@Sam-on5jf]

it really screams "how do you do fellow kids" 😎

[@isabellasuarez6872]

Video suggestion: could you review the clothing brand Cider? It has a lot of IG followers, but I doubt the quality of the clothes is worth the price ($30-45)

[@hannahdougall9500]

The way you said "tea" @19:29 make we feel all cosy and at home 🤗

[@sydnishavers7327]

girl you are glowing in this video u look so pretty

[@sulaf604]

As a Gen Zer myself, I completely agree with your comment about us being drawn to genuine authenticity, and that’s one of many reasons why this band gives me such bad vibes. It’s not even necessarily that they are so produced; for example, bands like BTS have HUGE production teams, budgets, companies behind them, and do nothing to hide it, but they are still very popular and widely supported. It’s that they are trying SO DAMN HARD, to prove that they are in fact these effortlessly cool girls who just up and wrote a song one night and then oopsies we went viral enough to have professional merch and music videos with no help at all from any huge management companies, no siree, don’t worry about it. Marisa specifically seems to be perpetuating this story, since she seems to be at the forefront of the band and also was the one pulling the “yeah, we just got drunk one night and a song happened, and we only grew on TikTok bc we’re color coded hot girls” while Paige went on a longer explanation about their industry connections in their Q&A.

[@bohemianvampire]

Its a shame that there are so many awesome feminist punk/alt groups who aren't getting the same attention as the TRAMP STAMPS, who dont seem to genuinely care about the genre or know how to have meaningful feminist discourse

[@that.neurodivergent]

Yo I'm trying to get more into that kind of music, would you mind dropping some names? I already listen to riot grrl, peaches (boys want to be her), and daep vally

[@bellaschneider46]

@@that.neurodivergent you mentioned riot grrrl already, but my favorites are L7, Veruca Salt, and 7 Year Bitch...some non-riot grrrl but still female lead rock/alt bands are Paramore, Concrete Blonde, and Heart! :)

[@sweetpeabee4983]

@@that.neurodivergent I'm very fond of the new Illuminati Hotties album from last year. It's a weird one but along the lines of what you're talking about.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Yup, stream Meet Me @ The Altar!

[@jennyveile]

Also, The Donnas. They are essential.​@@that.neurodivergent

[@kisschaseee]

love how your list of patrons reads like a baby book or gift shop key rings and so i was totally obsessed when i saw BIGCHUNGO appear, now THAT’S a baby name!

[@thewigcorner]

The trap stamps saga has been all over my fyp it’s so funny

[@WiselyKamelot24]

I legitimately had to close my laptop when I heard you say "Is slick halal" because I was laughing so hard The added fact that I'm a fan of omegaverse and could follow that just made it all the more funny

[@Forestfreud]

The vibe I get from them isn’t that they were industry plants per se, or at least if they are they’re only industry plants in a similar sense to Billie Eilish-it’s not, like, a scheme to get them popular with the image of an indie band, they’re just really privileged and/or have been trying to make it in the industry for long enough that they have connections. The vibe I get from them is that they barely knew each other but saw girl groups like be your own PET have songs blow up on TikTok and they went “woah it’s so easy to be an alt band that blows up on TikTok all you have to do is talk about how you hate men and dye your hair and make loud whiny music” when the fact is that even though it seems disorganized or whiny and cacophonous that kind of music has a lot of thought and care and talent and heart put into it. Now that they’re realizing it’s not actually easy, they’re getting bitter and embarrassed.

[@goobjub708]

I mean, Billie Eilish is definitely an industry plant. Not even a little bit, like very CLEARLY an industry plant. She sung on a track that her brother Finneas produced, mixed and mastered. He did everything. She uploads the song to soundcloud (she never gives a really clear reason why she did that) and it only got a couple thousand plays (not a lot on SC) contrary to the narrative her and her team push that she "blew up". Then, she was "discovered" by....Wouldn't ya know it? Her brothers manager, LOL (Finneas had a garage band going for some time and Ocean Eyes was actually gonna be for the band.). I could go on about how her whole come up was a huge marketing ploy for streaming services and how she had to become a walking advertisement for Spotify, Apple, and KZbin in order to get the crap load of advertising we were bombarded with in 2016 and on (for some rando who hasn't really come out with anything yet. Does that not seem weird to you?) That's why you get bombarded with her stuff everywhere. They want reallyyyyyy badly to make Billie a THING, and if you go back and look into it, it becomes extremely apparent that her come up was VERY forced. Here's the facts as we are to believe them: She was signed at FOURTEEN to INTERSCOPE for no reason. No notable discography. Ocean Eyes was not a success on SoundCloud. Not multitalented. Just some average singer 14 yr old girl. Any success the song had was because of the production quality, which was the result of her brothers hard work. I want to make it clear; I know about record labels. There was NO REASON to sign Billie Eilish. None. Signing her at 14 with no previous success is the same as signing a random person off the street. There's something missing here. Some deal that was made previously. There's stuff her and her team are not telling us, and they've tried really hard to keep what I know in this comment hidden. Now, I wonder what the real story is? Definitely NOT organic.

[@goobjub708]

I wanna say one more thing: My entire attitude on Billie would be totally different if she actually did blow up on SoundCloud. There are lots of artists that blow up on SoundCloud and find their way on there, but Billie was NOT one of them.

[@spacereaper666]

​@@goobjub708 Sounding hella negative towards her. At least she makes good music lol. unlike the Tramp Stamps and their bug ass

[@veganostra7388]

omg, I'm so glad you made a video on this topic I've been too tired to do much research on them by myself, thank you for serving this on a platter