when you realise dr eggman is snivelys uncle it makes it 10x more sad because snivelys basically being belittled by his own family member
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
He really was a twisted guy!
@mr.t68632 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@WhiteFireTheDragon Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@retardwithconviction Жыл бұрын
Snively deserved his fate 💯
@vesthegame14309 ай бұрын
To be fair nobody in his family likes him so he's use it it. Even his sister who's very kind straight up slapped him when he genuinely tried to bring her into his world domination plans and said he was a sad little man. Even his name snively is a nickname his father gave him to insult him.
@Avatarbee2 жыл бұрын
What I really liked about Archie Eggman was that he was constantly playing russian roulette type games with everyone. With Snively, his officers and even the freedom fighters to a degree. It added a layer of menace knowing that some of the horrid and nice stuff he was doing he was only doing for shits and giggles.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
He was for sure a real threat when he wanted to be one and that's what made him such a good villain in the comics for sure!
@Avatarbee2 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Makes his last line: "Game over Snively. Thanks for playing." A lot more sinister somehow.
@kiranverma114429 күн бұрын
Snively is just replace in Sonic movies by agent stone
@austria-hungary49812 жыл бұрын
I don't know which Robotnik is the *true evil* rather than the pesky villain. 1. Robotnik from the SATAM where he rules over Mobius 2. Fleetway Robotnik who also ruled over Mobius, ruined many lives, became a God at one point. 3. Archie Robotnik who loses it after being defeated by Sonic too many times
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty tough one tbh. I'm not even sure who I would pick!
@cyborgboy30702 жыл бұрын
Oh easy fleetway robotnik not even a competition fleetway robotnik is basically like robotnik from satam although worse he enslaved Mobians and anyone who defied his rule are straight up killed and badniks who fail to beat sonic are thrown into molten lava *WITH THE MOBIAN STILL INSIDE* . He has torn families apart simply because he wanted a power source for more soldiers , he became god and instead of helping people or making a paradise he simply became a dictator with people in devastation never to even understand the concept of "freedom", and before his death he rid the planet of it's life force using a machine in order to boost his own power. He quite literally made metallix which in of itself was a huge threat. He quite literally after being god and making an alternate universe where sonic never existed informed sonic that since he never existed his greatest companion whom he has been with for almost since the beginning of the comic died because sonic wasn't there to pull him out of a swamp just to fucking get into sonics head and only kept sonic alive so he could get the entertainment of seeing sonic struggle for *65 years* . He is cunning, brutal, and takes pleasure in making sure that all of Mobius never gets the concept of experiencing happiness. The only reason for his motives is just cause he finds the beautiful world of Mobius' peace gross.
@cyborgboy30702 жыл бұрын
@Ultimate Sora alright go off but this wasn't a debate on who was the *Better villain* this was a debate on which has done more *evil* perhaps I was being vague on it and I made the wrong impression, but yeah kinda awkward
@PyroGothNerd2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the Archie comics are a spinoff of SATAM, so technically they're almost the same guy
@myheroandmadaralover2372 Жыл бұрын
@@cyborgboy3070 i know you already resoloved but as insaind and evil fleetway robotnik is archie pre is a lot more evil becuse of him being a robo robotnik and way more evil as his sonic was blown up by a nuke
@goodsonicfan50162 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine Mark Hamill voicing Archie’s Dr. Eggman every time I read the comics.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Oh I actually really like that! Next time I read some I might do that!
@warioland5238 ай бұрын
Actually I imagine him being voiced by Jim Cummings. Since you know. He's basically Julian after he roboticized himself and uploaded his mind into the Eggman body.
@goodsonicfan50168 ай бұрын
@@warioland523 I guess that works too. 😁👍
@justinw73232 жыл бұрын
You cannot help but feel sorry for Snively. He would have had a happy/sane life if it wasn't for Robotnik.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Really Robotnik caused the majority of the bad stuff that rippled through Mobius
@christinekyosimire4680 Жыл бұрын
Same for starline
@miniaturejayhawk8702 Жыл бұрын
It was robotnik who enabled snivley good position in the first place. Without the former the latter would be a nobody.
@miniaturejayhawk8702 Жыл бұрын
@@christinekyosimire4680 starline would have probably found something else to obsess about. Either that or he would have just taken eggmans place entirely, just like in the comics.
@TheIcyPanda2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Heihachi Mishima style: locking people up up in the basement and starving them to death. Can't beat the classics!
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
if it aint broke dont fix it!
@m3tr0id862 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone swing Satam Robotnik doing the voice in this comic. That idea makes him sound terrifying.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
That would make a really terrifying version of Eggman!
@Lemmy-prod2 жыл бұрын
It’s also sad due to eggman going insane in issue #200 as he just breaks. It is just sad the way snivley said that bassically he had to take care of robotnik which is just down right horrifying, just how he went to insanity was crazy due to the metapropolis fight after that he went to madness
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Yeah one of these days I'll have to touch on that madness in a video!
@Skyfish937 ай бұрын
Can't believe Starscream betrayed Megatron and ACTUALLY got his just desserts.
@bowserbreaker2515 Жыл бұрын
Ian Flynn said Snively didn't die, because he was planned to come back eventually, just not for a while.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I mean that makes sense. Given that we never see him again though it does feel much darker
@alexcherry70713 ай бұрын
Fuck yes! I need to see snively as an independent villain.
@dissonanceparadiddle2 жыл бұрын
It's so cursed to see cubot and Sally in the same comic
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Ngl every time I see cubot in the comics I get a cursed vibe lol
@thegreatmysterys2 жыл бұрын
I read that chapter as a kid, and it messed with me for my entire life
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame kid you for reacting that way lol
@nicholasaugello25342 ай бұрын
Damn they actually made me take eggman seriously as a super villain here , must've really hated Snivly , like wow that was so personal... He didn't even do sonic like that when captured him in Sonic forces
@Muldoon932 жыл бұрын
The title is a bit misleading Eggman doesn’t kill Snivley he replaces him with a robotic duplicate of the real one and locks the real Snivley away in a prison cell you just don’t see anything more of what happens to him because the universe gets reset by the Genesis wave.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I mean fair enough but "That Time Eggman Left Sinvely for What Was Assumed To Be His Death Until The Super Genesis Wave Rebooted Everything" doesn't quite have the same ring to it 😛
@Muldoon932 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic 😂 hmmm 🤔 now that I think of it is a bit too long of a title isn’t it. Anyway In the video you explained it well enough there was a bit were it jogged my memory as I haven’t read that particular comic for almost a few years and the video is brilliant it makes you think. Anyway keep up the good video,s mate I’d like to see one on Eggman’s personality it would be another one to have a good discussion over.
@Muldoon932 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic a small part of me doesn’t think that Eggman would kill Snivley I think iv anyone discovered what he did such as the iron queen he’d use Snivley as Leverage.
@KainuTrash Жыл бұрын
I mean there was that one bit in lost world where he wanted to just go straight to genocide, which I think was the only time I heard a sonic VA say "genocide" in the game.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
huh yeah I forgot about that. He was actually kinda cool in that game
@bluekel61510 ай бұрын
3:12 I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT WAS A SNIVELY BOT, I JUST THOUGHT EGGMAN TOOK HIM AWAY TO THE CAPSULE IN HIS SLEEP OR SOMETHING THE NEXT PANEL HOLY-
@bowserbreaker2515 Жыл бұрын
Yet another reason as to why Archie Eggman is the best version.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
He truly was a very twisted villain that really felt like a mad genius
@moacirpatricio5718 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic They could even pull a nod to Ken penders by making Metal Sonic feel like he's playing second fiddle to Metal Sally
@Rgoid Жыл бұрын
Fleetway Eggman: Am I a joke to you?
@bowserbreaker2515 Жыл бұрын
@@Rgoid I never read Fleetway. That version looks fine, but I prefer Archie. I also love Boom for how funny he is.
@FallenHalfWingedWolf2 жыл бұрын
Goodness Archie Eggman is scary
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Avatarbee2 жыл бұрын
Comic Eggman is generally scary. Even in the IDW run he unleashed a robot zombie virus that nearly killed the planet and defeated one of his former flunkies so thoroughly and ruthlessly that the flunky had a mental breakdown.
@And_Im_all_out_of_bubblegum5 күн бұрын
Didn’t Snivley seek out uncle Julian so he could get revenge on his father? The fact he also killed Robotnik Prime sort of made Eggman already keep an eye on him and then he continues to prove time and again he’s willing to betray him. As an Eggman fan I enjoyed that twist. I’m just surprised he kept him around when he’s sort of a repeat offender and betrayer. If I was Eggman I would’ve gotten rid of him during the arc when Robo Robotnik breaks him out of the Devil’s Gulag and reveals himself.
@riley-dv8eu Жыл бұрын
4:03 I mean the context here kind of fits, as here eggman is infront of super sonic, who is all powerful so he gers on his knees and begs him to spare him even after all the stuff he did to him
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That is true
@SpectroliteDS6 ай бұрын
That and he *was* baiting Super Sonic directly into a trap to be fair...
@eljereaumartiena7472 жыл бұрын
Archie eggman is not the eggman we know he's still doctor pingas but with a new body that have plot armor
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
And much more violent lol
@eljereaumartiena7472 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic and all the real potential eggman is capable of but he don't wanna do it
@SoranotRoxas Жыл бұрын
*This Eggman was dangerous... would love for Sega to bring back this version! It would be insane dude* 👌
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
It would be amazing to see Eggman as a crazed genius like we see him here.
@lloydbagby83552 жыл бұрын
This is the reson I love archie eggman pre and post wave he very sadistic and very cruel plus he knew when to be funny but not kill his own theat level
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
He really is my favourite version of Eggman! He's got so many just really evil moments that set him as a real threat
@TheEggPaladin Жыл бұрын
This is why i love the Archie sonic comics. They take well know sonic characters and adapt them into something dark and twisted but fun lol 😂
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Just crank everyone up to 11 lol
@TheEggPaladin Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic forget that! Let's turn it up from 0 to 100! Lol 🤣
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
Eggman be like: behold My evil
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Eggman really likes to say behold lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5ywhH6barV4kLM
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic it's true
@jamestolbert18566 ай бұрын
4:07 as much as I love Sonic being lighthearted but I appreciate it for also being dark and mature for a while
@urdeadnotbigsuprise74392 жыл бұрын
I was wondering, can we get a video about Eggbosses? They seem pretty interesting on PGW Archie Sonic Comics and I don't see anyone really making videos about them.
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
That would be a fun one! I've got a few topics on the burner but that's for sure one I'll be adding to the list
@RedTygon Жыл бұрын
I mean this was, you know, before Sega decided they were going to market their product to just kids.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Thats fair
@LazyPirate82 жыл бұрын
1:01 Antuan dying like Yamcha lmfao. For real though and I though the pokemon adventures manga was this dark!
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
lol hes beaten down. I think the pokemon manga might make for some interesting content though!
@DangerHost Жыл бұрын
snively isnt going to starve, iirc eggcapsules are borderline stasis tech which is why using them to harness energy from animals is worthwhile on top of being just mean to do, Snively is going to be on solitary for a VERY long time THEN maybe starve to death
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Well if he doesn't die he'll surely go mad lol
@CobiaCrossink Жыл бұрын
Didn't we see Snively again caged next to Dr. Light in the Sonic/Megaman Crossover? Can't remember what issue it was.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That might be something worth looking into! I didn't find anything when working on this video but I didn't spend a lot of time on the crossover so I might have actually just missed it
@myheroandmadaralover23722 жыл бұрын
i do miss the old archie comic when flynn took over eggman being a threat while still being being eggman plus glad to see snivey get destoryed by eggman i mean the man destoryed the old note hole the only resona snivey got far was eggaman when insaine
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I did love at how dangerous Eggman became, its a very fine line to make him a threat while also keeping fun elements to him
@TevyaSmolka2 ай бұрын
Eggman in Archie comics is insane in my opinion
@memeguy24882 жыл бұрын
Eggman in this universe is way messed up and more evil than his game universe in which he wasn't that evil apart from the time from unleashed which he basically summoned an evil God and some of the events of 06 but he tried to fix that (even mentioning that game just makes me want to forget it).
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah 06 was something else. I wish it was good
@memeguy24882 жыл бұрын
Yeah I heard of project 06 in which people made the game good. Btw I just added more my genesis lore. First of mr g isn't just a split personality he is actually the genesis of sonic underground but he died trying to stop robotnik and his soul transfered to genesis. Another thing is that when i previously mentioned that gen.exe was into architecture from marble zone he was also into art as well which resulted in him being kicked out by all of the other exes and of course wipe away his memories. Speaking of gen.exe when he finnaly whent in a universe with sonic.exe he becamed the evolved gen.exe as well as an angel form to represent his goodness.
@FwendlyMushwoom2 жыл бұрын
Have you not played Sonic Adventure 2? He blows up the moon, holds Amy hostage with a gun, and would've successfully killed Sonic if not for the Deus Ex Machina of him being able to use Chaos Control with a fake Chaos Emerald.
@Muldoon932 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely agree 06 could have been better I hope Sega learned from the mistakes they made.
@Muldoon932 жыл бұрын
Eggman in the games series isn’t that evil because he isn’t as reckless as he is in the comic universe his constant defeats by the hands of Sonic and the freedom fighters mainly sonic drove him mad he simply couldn’t understand why he was losing even tho at times he came close to winning and having the upper hand to have sonic find a way to turn it around at the last minute. As Snivley said in one of the comics Eggman is a brilliant scientist and engineer he can build almost anything that others would find impossible he can plan and strategise many steps ahead and account for many possibilities. It’s how he was able to conquer mobius in a few short years but none of all he could do could account for sonic the constant defeats at his hands pushed him to be more Vicious and more driven in his cause even making him self sacrificial. In the end on his mind they only thing was crushing sonic by any means necessary.
@anthonysmith34152 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the Mecha Sally video now watching this one
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
You da bomb dot com!
@TheKoopaKingBowser Жыл бұрын
Archie Eggman is like Bowser but more insane. Not saying Bowser isn't insane though, the fucker was more then willing to destroy quadrillions of lives in Dream Team just to get the dream stone. But Eggman is more, batshit, mentally toying with people, insane. While having the charm that bowser exudes, which is why i like when they collab in the olympic games, albeit bowser is way more goofy and off topic. But of them have their time to shine, especially when Bowser is actually serious, of which he's the biggest menace, and when Eggman is just being batshit insane.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
When Eggman loses it he really loses it. For sure not someone you want to get on the bad side of
@TheKoopaKingBowser Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic What makes his short burst of insanity horrifying is that despite his lack of control of his mental state, he completely has control of his calmness and exuding power.
@Pika-Chu642 жыл бұрын
I love snively. ❤️
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
And he loves you!
@trollanlord852 жыл бұрын
me too
@kyleveers Жыл бұрын
Snivley and Dimitri both got locked into boxes and left to die
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
People dying left and right!
@switcheruby2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you'd say the A word
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
I'm a disgrace 😥
@anthonysmith34152 жыл бұрын
Archie???
@jamestolbert18566 ай бұрын
I feel really bad for Snively! This shows just how pure evil Dr Eggman is!
@mr.t68632 жыл бұрын
A menace to society is correct, but he still isn’t on that true ultimate menace. Since there’s a lot more worse things then this guy
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
Not disagreeing but I'm curious as to who you would place above him
@carnage0685 Жыл бұрын
wasn't the "THAT'S GOING TOO FAR" thing in Sonic X just Eggman being a manipulative asshole and faking it?
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
maybe? It's been forever since I watched the show but I had just remembered that line as being so weird lol
@carnage0685 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic He immediately offers a partnership with the villain he said that to after Sonic leaves the area, so I would assume such.
@kalinaribic6383 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Sonic? Dr. Robotnik? Am I a bad person for feeling bad for Svinley? I don't know why, but I feel awfull for him? Am I in the wrong for feeling so?
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
It is a really dark story and although Snively is bad, to treat him this way is really cruel and inhumane. It reminds us that Eggman is a serious villain here.
@kalinaribic6383 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Yes. I agree. Even though Dr Robotnik is more of a comedicall villain, he had some moments where showed us as children that he can be just as dark, brutal, serious and scary as any other villain.
@wicked.a950 Жыл бұрын
I hope we get to see Sage in the comics
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
That would be so cool!
@Lemuel92828 күн бұрын
Guessing he did that before the reboot.
@LordChromeGaming8 ай бұрын
This is the Eggman I prefer. I love what we have now but every now and again. We need to see this level of evil. Eggman was horrifying in Archie.
@MrScaryPasta12 күн бұрын
Sorry to bust your bubble, but Snively didn’t actually die in ARCHIE. Apparently he escaped Eggman’s clutches somehow and went to work for GUN, where he eventually betrayed them as well. But the GUN series cancelled after ARCHIE ended on a cliffhanger.
@solonsaturngaming37276 ай бұрын
all I can imagine is in Robotnik's Basement he had some bot that held him down there, and then when he went down there just Beats the crud out of him like Rocky did to the meat slab in the Freezer seen and when he was all done just breaking him down both mentally showing him he'll never see his love at all, or that he can feel her touch, and keeps telling him No one knows where the Real him is over and over again while he just tortures him. after all the anger that Eggman subsided for a bit he just in the end just put's him in a Animal Capsule but looking at it is designed that nothing he can try Snively is forever trapped in there and only One person can free him and that is Uncle who wants him good as dead now, makes me wonder how long he just broke his own family member and did what they do the Highly Dangerous Convicts in the US and made sure he see's no light and no human contact till he's dead.
@Supperdude9 Жыл бұрын
>I'm not pushing my luck Considering that Sonic breaks the laws of physics and reality, getting two major wins in a row is actually pretty good. Actually is a smart play by Eggman.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Actually, when you put it that way you make a good point lol
@Supperdude9 Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic In Sonic CD, Sonic traveled through time. How do you fight that?
@Kira22558 Жыл бұрын
Scary
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
Archie Eggman could be a real monster
@EnsembleVGM11 ай бұрын
how did snively pull bro
@FantasticSamtastic11 ай бұрын
Confidence is key
@SupremeMetalOverlord Жыл бұрын
"Mein Kampf Quote in Knuckles 23." What? Someone check that up.
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I've got you homie, I already have a video on the topic :P kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKCoeXqHlrqoopI
@SupremeMetalOverlord Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Huh… You learn something new everyday.
@DylonBridson7 ай бұрын
Even with just seeing SatAm, I know Snively deserves this
@LordMetalSonic19876 ай бұрын
If you think this version of Eggman is bad, then you shoukd check out Fleetway Sonic the Comic's incarnation of Dr. Robotnik. That mofo is the sickest and most evilly twisted version of the character in the entire Sonic metaverse.
@insomniacowl53923 ай бұрын
One problem with the notion that Eggman starved Snively to death One he is seen alive and imprisoned during the Megaman crossover Two The capsule he’s trapped in is the same one Eggman uses in the games which is a stasis capsule
@damonsolomon228 Жыл бұрын
Bro he says it's the metal series of robots meaning that's metal Sally not Mecha sally
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
nope, if we read the comic we can see 3 pages after the metal series is introduced Eggman refers to her as Mecha Sally which shows that that is still Mecha Sally who leads the metal series.
@SsjkidsSaveCosmo082 жыл бұрын
That's so messed up
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
It actually left me having to do a double take when I read it because it was so grim
@uneditg6848 Жыл бұрын
i feel like metal sonic shoudlve been the leader
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I think having Sally has more of an impact, it's a real big demoralizing thing to see your former leader turned to the enemy
@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn Жыл бұрын
I miss eggman actually being evil. Sonic not being an oblivious moron. Shadow actually helping others and not being an edgelord. Etcetc The current state of sonics sad as hell
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
I will say though IDW seems to have a pretty fun direction right now and Frontiers has given me hope for the next games
@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn Жыл бұрын
@@FantasticSamtastic Frontiers was a glorified tech demo from 2009 💀
@Seiyol3 ай бұрын
....why am I listening to epona's song
@FantasticSamtastic3 ай бұрын
Because it's a bopping tune
@isauldron43372 жыл бұрын
My god
@FantasticSamtastic2 жыл бұрын
There is no god here, just Eggman 🥚
@Soap-Face11 ай бұрын
0:28
@FantasticSamtastic11 ай бұрын
I legit forgot I did that lol
@simonsanous2685 Жыл бұрын
22 minutes ain't that long
@FantasticSamtastic Жыл бұрын
The original uncut video was over 45min long, there was a lot that I cut out that happens during this arc but isn't relevant to mecha Sally. Also, at the time these videos took me about an hour or more to edit a minute so I spent a minimum of 22 hours editing that video and that's pretty long for me 😂