The Touhou Cannonball Failure

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Suwawako

Suwawako

Күн бұрын

Remember Touhou Cannonball? Y'know, the game that came before Lost Word? I kinda do remember it!! It was originally the first major Touhou mobile game. It had everything; interesting gameplay, a fresh Touhou idea, and Mystia Lorelei, but like a year or two ago it shut down... why? You'll see what happened to this poor poor game later on in the video. If only Reimu and her gensokyan friends figured out that they were in a gacha game... Then that would be freaky. Anyway, gonna watch some anime, brbrrbrb
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@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
ALRGIHT YOU DINGUSES I WILL REDUCE MY WOOSHES!! #reducethewoosh
@LustNoel
@LustNoel 2 жыл бұрын
reduce but not remove!
@Infinite3Fold888
@Infinite3Fold888 2 жыл бұрын
I need to tell you about something you could make a video on. There is this game inspired by touhou called Len'en.
@LustNoel
@LustNoel 2 жыл бұрын
at first i read leffen
@DLBBALL
@DLBBALL 2 жыл бұрын
Semi-unrelated but this video is why TIL Sanae is pronounced "Sa-nai" and not "San-ayy"...
@dendx3888
@dendx3888 2 жыл бұрын
They should’ve put it on everywhere in the world
@SilumanTomcatReborn
@SilumanTomcatReborn 2 жыл бұрын
The game committed financial suicide. I mean look. Each character gets high quality model, famous VA voicing them, and 4 instrumental music + 1 vocal song. That shit should cost a lot of money. With boring gameplay, heavy grinding, and merciless gacha rate; people start leaving the game and they can't cover the expense. The shut-down was not everyone's surprise. Regardless, I still hold THCB dearly in my heart. It's one of the most beautiful Touhou fangame ever created and nothing can't replace it. tfw, i can no longer hear koishi wants to get praised and patted why bother to live?
@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
I should've added that to the video
@WeetZe
@WeetZe 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/moDKY4mpbt56l7c kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZaVXqCBaaySm6c
@Koishi_Komeiji
@Koishi_Komeiji 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah after they removed Koishi praise it was over for me
@defaulted9485
@defaulted9485 2 жыл бұрын
I have an unlisted video covering some of THCB Koishi's voices for personal use for coping. Its at kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnbNq5uGhqyrjJY I coped hard at it. Also yeh, this game is a massive undertaking that 3D models with full L2D are just too costly to maintain. The killer part for me is that there are not reason to gacha other than collection and everyone other than Tewi - Sakuya combo is practically useless in other levels where Shrine Monopoly Grinds so many leveling power that has no other use. If you can't gacha then the game became not only shallow - but practically goes nowhere. That and practically they cannot implement skin because not only L2D but also 3D Model adjustments. That killed most of their income avenue.
@tonyhakston536
@tonyhakston536 2 жыл бұрын
Can I get some more context on that last part?
@wrigglenightbug8679
@wrigglenightbug8679 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, BUT THE "WOOSH" SOUND EFFECT FOR EVERY SINGLE TRANSITION IS DRIVING ME INSANE
@Brimations
@Brimations 2 жыл бұрын
NO YOU MADE ME NOTICE IT
@EN07Z
@EN07Z 2 жыл бұрын
woosh woosh
@santiagosalas7088
@santiagosalas7088 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god i just noticed
@ClamChowdaEnjoya
@ClamChowdaEnjoya 2 жыл бұрын
buzz buzz im bug
@IzaendWorks
@IzaendWorks 2 жыл бұрын
I think the correct title of this vídeo is more like to be "Review of Touhou Cannonball" or something like that, the vídeo doesn't explain so much about the failure of the game, it's still a good vídeo, i didn't know so much about this game.
@zerox6x7
@zerox6x7 2 жыл бұрын
a monopoly gamemode is not suitable to grind over and over again to get items.
@parabledude
@parabledude 2 жыл бұрын
If only Lost Word could have those little animations when the girls are speaking That would be really cool
@its_venezianotvenice
@its_venezianotvenice 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I bet LW has more buget than Princess Connect Re:Dive due to it being Touhou. PriConne has pngs but they have mouth animations and cut scenes for their ultimate attacks. So LW could have done better
@kurb0
@kurb0 Жыл бұрын
Characters with Fantasy Rebirth get to unlock an "anima", an animated pose don't know if they have lip sync though.
@parabledude
@parabledude Жыл бұрын
@@kurb0 idk, i don't have any yet But I wasn't aware of that fact, thanks
@andreimorar5249
@andreimorar5249 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think of it, this game shut down literally one day before I found Touhou (shut down on the 14th October 2020, while my first interaction with the series was on the 15th). I have only learnt about the existence of Cannonball a few month afterwards, and exactly when I was thinking "this looks interesting, maybe I should try it out", I saw the mention of it no longer being a thing. This was still like 5 month before LostWord was going to get a Global release, and all I was looking for was to play a Touhou game that is not bullet hell (as I am an utter disaster at those kind of games). I mean, this game even decided to animate its characters in the cutscenes and whenever they had a dialogue to say in main menu (I presume) thanks to Live 2D, while LostWord is literally a PowerPoint presentation whose only changing element per character are facial expressions.
@SasNostalgia
@SasNostalgia 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad all the assets can obtained online. Rip live 2D Keine :-( Just some thought of mine, I think a better suited title for this video would be something relating to reviewing touhou cannonball rather than something relating to its failure.
@psychicfire8232
@psychicfire8232 2 жыл бұрын
I tried playing that game back then, but it has some challanges that require answering quizzes of some sort. That's impossible for people who don't speak Japanese.
@Kyee124
@Kyee124 2 жыл бұрын
there's some note regard to the gacha system, if I am right, if you compare the rate of 5 stars character with the LW character rate, LW rate is better than it, but if you include the 4 stars variant the Cannonball rate is higher (you can upgrade any character from 1 stars to 5 stars if you are dedicated enough) but the main issue why people still prefer LW gacha is because of the "if you gacha for 100 times(or 150 times, I don't play LW) you can guarantee to get the banner's character", unlike Cannonball's "if you gacha 100 times you can guarantee a 5 stars character, it might be the banner's character, it might be just another 5 stars chen"
@EHG231
@EHG231 2 жыл бұрын
LW player here. Its 100 pulls for General units, 150 for Fes units, 250 for UFes, and a burning wallet for EFes
@misery_shun
@misery_shun 2 жыл бұрын
@@EHG231 And now 350 for relics While LW seems to finally take a break with its banners (which was the first issue I saw when I downloaded it and it was before 1st anni), I hope they won't rush her for quick bucks - we already have Bluemu
@misery_shun
@misery_shun 2 жыл бұрын
@@lil_nxee Yeah, I think it took them literal eternity to add Mystia into the game and other missing General units. I know they might want to have less parity issues when it comes to 'meta', but man was this anni horrendous with its countless of banners
@kurb0
@kurb0 Жыл бұрын
I'm sad that they didn't make it offline when they ended service, yeah it would undermine every player who did spend money, but then all the effort that went into it wouldn't be wasted.
@AspergerPlays
@AspergerPlays 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, there they are: it's Komachi Oh NO SUKA 3:20 also, there's Remila again 5:50 there's Poorsei and Kiss me aswell 6:16 ..Oh yea, another great informational video once again! The wooshes were overkill, but you're the one killin it!
@satoyuyu
@satoyuyu 2 жыл бұрын
i never had play 2hu Cannonball. but its very amazing and PNG animation looks better than LW. I really those miss since 2019, my friend played the game. but he stopped playing on 2 months before server closure. many VA for some characters are really incredible however i hope LW will use better famous VA sooner...
@RandyAlterReviews
@RandyAlterReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Sad ... Cannonball end on Oct 2020 Now.. Danmaku Kagura end on Oct 2022
@noc117
@noc117 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't have a chance to try it, the trailer looked amazing and got me hyped up til i found out about what happened to it
@GussyBaka1972
@GussyBaka1972 2 жыл бұрын
watching this i did not expect to hear about genshin impact, though it is a epic win Genshin, despite being a gacha game with some of the worst rates, it has definetly changed for what a mobile game could be
@crowedarken
@crowedarken 2 жыл бұрын
THCB is up there with Fate/Grand Order when it comes to gacha rates
@terrafang7260
@terrafang7260 2 жыл бұрын
I counted 160 𝘸𝘩𝘰𝘰𝘴𝘩es (might have miscounted)
@lemintoop4361
@lemintoop4361 2 жыл бұрын
Listed problems were only the surface. There was a "PvP" arena with rankings trough you could get rewards montly or weekly(can't remember exactly) with some people being nice single typed or with lvl 1 units, others had maxed out overcapped units of each type so you couldn't counter them any way. Online mode was busted if someone got new characters since their effects were super good and had high dice multiplier for battles. Also multiplayer had battle pass system. Early Tewi and Sakuya farming was annoying and time consuming, but later their introduced skip tickets and getting upgrade to 5 star was easier (And deleting Wriggles after each skip ticket farm). Overall game was nice but remember stopping playing when there were weeks of downtime with nothing new and then just getting new banner with no new stages to get some extra curreny.
@Needwagon4Speedwagon
@Needwagon4Speedwagon 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly wish this one would have gotten popular instead of lostword, with the 3d models plus live2d it looks miles better than LW's pngs, and I would much rather play Monopoly party instead of looking at LW play itself
@Rayanial
@Rayanial 2 жыл бұрын
THE FRICKING OPENNING IS A BANGER
@seki108
@seki108 9 ай бұрын
The Opening (which has almost doubled it's views since shutting down iirc) and the 4koma were definitely some of the main points of interest for someone who doesn't play mobile games. The fact the Aki sisters were promentently displayed in the OP (and even stole the screen for a few seconds) but never made it in is quite funny........still have the gif saved since it's a great piece of rare animated Aki sisters.
@milesblinde
@milesblinde 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I've ever notice this game is the god tier vocal 5 Star Alice spellcard bgm, still can't belive they put so much effort into quality to be a gacha
@bulb9970
@bulb9970 Жыл бұрын
0:51 Thousand Nights is actually really good. I also thought it was stupid from the images alone but it’s surprisingly on par with the official games.
@kamespinosarojas9225
@kamespinosarojas9225 2 жыл бұрын
Would totally buy it if it was made as a full game one could buy regardless of multiplayer or being only single player the game looks fun.
@DeadEndSwag
@DeadEndSwag 2 жыл бұрын
This actually looks so good that it made Lost W*rd looked like something that came out from Gacha life
@Iwantanfc
@Iwantanfc 2 жыл бұрын
you made me chuckle with the lostword censor
@SaturnsRing98
@SaturnsRing98 2 жыл бұрын
It really, really caught my eye when it came out- It had Utsuho, my favorite in the whole series and she was voiced by an actress who I already liked! I was already hooked by Utsuho alone but the game really looked nice with the board game style, but at the time I was stuck with an iOS device that couldn't download the game and I had no idea how else to play it. Then it shut down, Lost Word happened and added Utsuho, but I can't help but feel I was robbed. Lost Word doesn't feel that fun to play and it feels really cash grabby- especially with how it just reuses old community music compared to the new music made specifically for Cannonball and that damn gacha system getting in the way. I would love to see the Cannonball assets used to restore/rebuild the game like how Sonic fans did so with Sonic Runners and I would love to play it myself one day. Seems like a better wait than for Lost Word to actually add new characters over recolours and alternate versions of the same characters (there are 4 Sakuyas already, seriously)...
@reimu8496
@reimu8496 2 жыл бұрын
A few extra notes: The game got a lot of shit in the JP community due to fairly shallow characterization. The gacha system was also kind of stupid from a business PoV, because you could grind any character up to 5*, and you could get less rare copies pretty easily: they later attempted to rectify this with gacha-only seasonal variants and early access. Additionally, the cards were never compelling for whales to pull for because they were primarily for the auto-battle section of the game, which made up a minority of playtime. It's hard to pin down what exactly was the main cause, but between gameplay, odd monetization, and extravagant spending for assets such as music and VAs, and extremely unbalanced multiplayer, game just had a ton stacked against it.
@yuyukiworking333
@yuyukiworking333 2 жыл бұрын
to be honest, i was there since day one, the game was fun and all but since you have to farm so much, the gameplay became repetitive. And I guess is my fault too, because i expected something like mario party minigames, but that was too much for a phone game. Now I wait for Touhou Arcadia,that game looks awesome.
@goldenboxen6430
@goldenboxen6430 Жыл бұрын
4:36 this hurts my soul to a degree the devil dare not reach
@ShowMeTheSpider
@ShowMeTheSpider 2 жыл бұрын
As a old player of Kick Flight, i got sudden feelings of nostalgia seeing this video.
@akiradkcn
@akiradkcn 2 жыл бұрын
There is no explanation at all, nearly all these negative points also can be apllied to Lost World amd guess what? No sign of LW being shut down so far...
@xb70valkyriech
@xb70valkyriech 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple language translations, buoyed by the Chinese stock market, and learned from the lessons of canon all. Unfortunately the first time something is tried, it usually fails, and later iterations reap the success
@sodaodaoda
@sodaodaoda 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's sad, since Touhou CB seemed very fun.. :( I wish we got an english localization. I also hope DanKagu gets a translation.
@sablesalt
@sablesalt 2 жыл бұрын
Ok but they succeded at giving all the characters really cute pinchable cheeks. No not those cheeks >:(
@Blaze-ow8cc
@Blaze-ow8cc 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Cannonball. it's what got me into lost word to begin with
@sajibprobably230
@sajibprobably230 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. I guess I must have had a vastly different experience playing the game than others. Maybe I'm just easy to entertain but I enjoyed the battle system in this game. The animation, the music and how it was essentially figure out who you need, learn the order or who you may want to take out first, and input accordingly. Simplistic but I enjoyed it. And the boards were kinda fun too. Fun enough that I didn't mind playing them at least. Events changed up some of the board game rules occasionally (at least from the couple I played) and I liked raid events too. (I mean... I only got to play the Suika raid event but it made me use characters I wouldn't usually use.) I can't complain about the Gacha because despite only playing it for a few months before shutdown, I guess I wasn't really hoping for anyone in particular. For me it became more about pulling when I can and hoping for a new character. And saving the currency for said pulls wasn't a big deal either, especially thanks to the arena. Speaking of the arena, it was nice to see different set ups for most teams instead of the same sets of characters over and over. It might have tricked me into thinking that the units we had were balanced in someway. A good number of characters were f2p friendly in the sense that you'd get them as drops in stages. Tewi also had an ability to help you get more from farming stages. And there were stages that required tickets to farm for materials but they could be brought from the shop... the same shop you can buy auto tickets from so... Still not that big a deal. In the end I had 5 stars for almost every non-gacha unit in the game. And this was just from playing casually. This game also made me appreciate Seiran quite a bit. Or at least I really liked this game's portrayal of her for some reason. Her spell card was one of my favorites and her 5 star spell card theme is one of my favourite vocal tracks. The interactive live2d on the main menu and the little character animations kept me entertained also. And it was awfully neat that once you unlocked a stage theme or a battle theme you could chose it to play in stages/battles whenever you wanted. It felt like too much was put in to just call it a cash grab. Lost Word only makes me miss Cannonball more. I'm sure that eventually we would have gotten the rest of the characters from the franchise with time. It usually a longevity thing. I was waiting and hoping for Nue but... Oh well. I'm not surprised we didn't get an English release to be honest. After all that they would probably have to pay even more just to get the translating and coding sorted... Meanwhile Danmaku Kagura also isn't in English yet. I can't wait for that if it ever happens. Makes me really wish these games weren't tied to servers. But it looks like there are going to be even more Touhou mobile games out there (if that Cave shmup is really in the works and what ever Klab is putting out, despite a previous 'controversy'). Here's to hoping they'll be... Decent if not great. (Edit: Holy sh*t... I went off for quite a bit. My bad. I'll probably trim this down later.)
@sajibprobably230
@sajibprobably230 2 жыл бұрын
I also realize that I might have found the farming in this to not be all that grindy because I might be desensitized due to the number of gachas I've played... Huh.
@arcturus64
@arcturus64 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing TF2 sound effects in a touhou video makes me happy.
@Hatsune_mikuxX
@Hatsune_mikuxX 2 жыл бұрын
Now I wish lost word had this good animations
@pnames3887
@pnames3887 2 жыл бұрын
The wooshing is actually reimu dodging bullets
@jvts8916
@jvts8916 2 жыл бұрын
If this game had come to the west... I probably wouldn't have played it. My no mobile-games-ever phase lasted for quite a long time, only Dragon Quest TACT managed to change my mind (ironically, I ended up dropping that game because I ended up hating it and replaced it with Lost Word). Which makes me sad, because in retrospect I kind of want to play Ragnastrike Angels and now it's shut down.
@Another_Dusk
@Another_Dusk 2 жыл бұрын
Lost Word is just an afk game, i used a autoclicker for spamming indefinititely event stages and crap... also powercreep units
@evanmak7837
@evanmak7837 2 ай бұрын
Can we just add how ZUN said that this game's popularity and professional background worried him because people would likely think Touhou as another gacha instead of a multi-year self-published doujin game?
@shadow_hive
@shadow_hive 2 жыл бұрын
I kid you not I just found out about this game's existence like a week ago and now you made a Video about it. Great Timing
@ultimatehunterroxas
@ultimatehunterroxas 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Sonic fans revived a Sonic mobile game that had already closed, I don't know what it's called, but the point is, if they could, we as Touhou fans could too Of all the gachas I've played, if Cannonball had succeeded, it would be one of the most polished and elaborate games I've ever played.Unfortunately it closed and currently that position is disputed by DB Dokkan Battle and DB Legends
@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it could happen to Cannonball, so that's why my hopes rely on some dingus github programmer making a fanserver for Cannonball (like CTGP), or making the game playable offline via a patch.
@ultimatehunterroxas
@ultimatehunterroxas 2 жыл бұрын
@@Suwawako as well as waiting for any new video game (Fan of Megaman X waiting for X9) Only time will tell...
@Binbomegami_Dorada
@Binbomegami_Dorada 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Suwawako I swear for snoopy thatthere are people out there playing this game already. a guy from argentine called kappa net used to stream this.
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 2 жыл бұрын
That's true! The original Sonic Runners game did have a similar fate to Touhou Cannonball and it was closed a year after it launched because the gatcha system was really bad (there was a very low chance to get the banner stuff and it didn't even have a pity system) from what I remember. Recently, the fan base created a fan made server for the game called: Sonic Runners Revival. They even started adding new characters and events to the game since last year as well. All the credit card payment options were taken out of the game because Sega allows fan games as long as they don't make any profit. Maybe if there are some dedicated Touhou fans out there, Touhou Cannonball can have the same fate as Sonic Runners and be revived.
@ShinyRaichu94
@ShinyRaichu94 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonicmaiden2871 I really wish that would happen... 😔
@touhouoz
@touhouoz 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh when this game was announced no one was really excited. The fandom at the time thought of Touhou as being gacha-free so it was a stain at the time. That plus you could just watch all the cutscenes on KZbin meant bypassing every spending a penny on this game. On top of that, upon hearing they would just shut down the servers and no longer make the game downloadable/playable... this was when the idea of games no longer being "owned" and more a "service" was starting to take hold and was kinda seen as deserved. EDIT: Now I've finished watching the video, it seems you had a much more positive experience with the game. I'm glad you did enjoy it, and we did get some great music and artwork out of it. But being before the flood of newcomers introduced by LostWord who are already used to Gacha games, this release was both liked and disliked by the community and everyone I spoke to. I think with the blow up of LostWord this sentiment has now changed to nostalgia and wish the play a bit moreso though.
@maangidon528
@maangidon528 2 жыл бұрын
Arcadia record on the way 👍
@vacuus6083
@vacuus6083 2 жыл бұрын
i tried the game it was fun, i dont remember much about the gacha tho, i didnt get the chance to do so becuase i lost my phone 2 weeks after playing it.
@d7603
@d7603 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame because this is still the best Touhou game in term of visual. ... I'm waiting for Arcadia Record but i better not expect much. Lost word and Damaku Kagura didn't hold up.
@d7603
@d7603 2 жыл бұрын
@Charles Michiru Gallo a shame really, music-based game is perfect for Touhou.
@jipjap7297
@jipjap7297 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I wanted to learn more but couldn't really find anything on Google results since I never heard of it.
@abrahamrangel2326
@abrahamrangel2326 2 жыл бұрын
I miss touhou cb a lot, i dont play gachas but i can tell it was the best one out there with those cute 3d models and live 2d animations for dialogue, it was far better than lost word and im so sad that i couldnt max my kogasa to 5 stars, at least someone could extract some data of the game including 3d models and live 2d
@DoremyUWU
@DoremyUWU 2 жыл бұрын
That's was my first gacha game and the best gacha game i ever play... Rip CB ;(
@crowedarken
@crowedarken 2 жыл бұрын
THCB ain't giving me Okuu after I spent so much money into it, so it can die for all I care. But seriously, though. Shame it died so fast.
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 2 жыл бұрын
"High quality" and "mobile game" sound like an oxymoron when put together in the same sentence
@nihilon0
@nihilon0 4 ай бұрын
Game had so much potential 😔
@whitetoryufu
@whitetoryufu 2 жыл бұрын
懐かしいな〜 すごろくっていうゲームシステムがソシャゲには不向きだったからすぐサ終しちゃったけどちょっと違ければもうちょっと続いただろうと考えると惜しいゲーム🎮
@yume2727
@yume2727 2 жыл бұрын
Thousand night Anamnesis do be cool thoe
@hashihime1703
@hashihime1703 2 жыл бұрын
6:17 You talkin shit about Parsee? Heresy!
@hp78ch
@hp78ch 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mom. *Waves at camera*
@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313
@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313 2 жыл бұрын
Touhou Cannonball's existence is quite the enigma. I've *heard* about the game, I've seen its trailer and even seen a few of the models and sprites from the game on The Models and Spriters Resource, but I've never seen gameplay or heard anything about the game until now. Hearing that the game plays similar to Itadaki Street (Fortune/Boom Street elsewhere) kinda makes me sad because I actually enjoyed that game. I was never good at it but who cares. Much like any Gacha game, it was going to eventually flop. And just like Sonic Runners, it was because the greed was too high and no-one wanted to pay the prices just to continue with the game. Between the chibi, high quality models, various VAs, tons of music and the artists making that art and character rigs for cutscenes on top of basic maintenance for the servers and the typical Gacha rate most games would have. ... Yeah... that would definitely cause financial problems for the game to stay up. It should be considered a miracle that the game lasted for nearly a full year with the amount of greed hidden in it. Shame really, I would've probably enjoyed the game had it actually been released globally, was a full priced game instead of free-to-play/pay-to-win and didn't have *payed* Gacha mechanics. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 had a Gacha mechanic but Core Crystals could be obtained from beating foes including Unique Monsters and some blades were given special one-use Core Crystals that would eventually make it possible to obtain them in the Gacha pool after releasing them. ... For some reason... (Some blades are pretty busted, both metaphorically and literally, so I wouldn't understand getting rid of them.)
@Sp0okeh
@Sp0okeh 2 жыл бұрын
ive never heard of this game ever. and by the looks of it, this could fit as a switch title.
@EmmEDroid
@EmmEDroid 2 жыл бұрын
Wriggle Nightbug
@atwistedb
@atwistedb 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information! But WHY are they in a canon?
@cooleecoolee9504
@cooleecoolee9504 2 жыл бұрын
Lostword and cannon ball gachas isn't really require, I speedrunned cannonball without gacha needed. Lostword gacha isn't really required since you can beat the game with the default characters (Reimu L1 and Marisa L1). Gacha for cannon ball is like "Hey you want cool and neat wallpapers and neat character gamble for them!" And the same goes with lost word but I can say that lost word isn't really making you spend all your money, The game gives you items already from in game logins and even for competing missions. In all I don't know what the people are angry about the gacha systems in both in and I would say its more of THEIR problem and not the games problem
@ImmacHn
@ImmacHn 2 жыл бұрын
I hate gacha games, actually I hate games as a service. I would rather spend good money on a complete experience, even if it's on mobile, than to be skinner boxed into oblivion. The official Touhou Games get this right.
@-error-7936
@-error-7936 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jaredmorales5130
@jaredmorales5130 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays gacha games, I also agree.
@Touhou20246
@Touhou20246 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair I feel like that the touhou project LostWord gacha system in my opinion is not really bad in my opinion because I feel like that it is much better than games like candy crush by the way because I experienced how bad candy crushes in app purchases are.😅👍🏻
@aerenntyne1099
@aerenntyne1099 2 жыл бұрын
So you didn't play it eh? Yeah....you know, the thing that frustrated me the most was how the most efficient way to farm was dragging the matches as much as possible, and that it was a RNG fiesta...which wouldn't be bad to enjoy with friends, but it's hell when trying to be efficient, because it's a gacha game.
@tonyhakston536
@tonyhakston536 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 _remila_
@tonyhakston536
@tonyhakston536 2 жыл бұрын
6:18 *_yumame_*
@CaptainMurasaTheULTRAKILLFan24
@CaptainMurasaTheULTRAKILLFan24 4 ай бұрын
The Truth of Fiio M17
@stkproduction
@stkproduction 2 жыл бұрын
The Gacha system and their downgraded characters makes me think of the failure of Sonic Runners
@nihilon0
@nihilon0 4 ай бұрын
they might just took it down to revamp it? idk but thats a huge waste of money
@otmorozok1994
@otmorozok1994 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't use badly cropped LostWord sprites
@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit
@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit 2 жыл бұрын
I got to appear..even for a few frames!
@LustNoel
@LustNoel 2 жыл бұрын
you gotta chill out on the transition sfx lol
@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
No
@thesleepypiggy
@thesleepypiggy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Suwawako The duality of man
@EN07Z
@EN07Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@Suwawako yes gang
@simonkorica9467
@simonkorica9467 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you don't need a sound effect for every image slide. Cool video, but a bit annoying to hear all that uncalled for audio.
@guncatto2625
@guncatto2625 2 жыл бұрын
Thousand night anemisis is good wtf you talking about its bullet hell monday but touhou.
@killerbot4425
@killerbot4425 2 жыл бұрын
yea I still don't how some Touhou player plays Tf2 too
@Mizuryryn
@Mizuryryn 2 жыл бұрын
Should've arrived in GB/EN aswell instead of JP it'll survive abit longer
@MedsieLovr
@MedsieLovr 2 жыл бұрын
I Played some gacha games and i find all of them sickening, But Touhou Party is a Great idea.
@funny-gv3ml
@funny-gv3ml 2 жыл бұрын
sucks that a lot of the music that was in this game got lost
@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
It's still online so don't worry
@funny-gv3ml
@funny-gv3ml 2 жыл бұрын
@@Suwawako yeah but a want of it got copyrighted
@BeeCygNus
@BeeCygNus 2 жыл бұрын
kinda sad that this game had to go, it was like the only enjoyable gacha game I have played for a year. well its not like you can compete with already established gacha franchises (granblue, fate, etc.) with greeding early anyways. and the other touhou gacha games are just a worse copy paste gameplay loop of already existing games with the amount of skins being a seperate characters with different stats because gReEd (fuck you LW) not to mention touhou arcadia is literally an azur lane clone with passable animation and assets (and a shady history behind it) . byeah I'm not gonna touch touhou gacha games ever again its just boring
@BeeCygNus
@BeeCygNus 2 жыл бұрын
also from what my friend said, cannonball is already setting a red flag in the first place by literally throwing out the canon personality of every character based on the dialogues. its not like a world ending problem but apparently japanese doesnt like them not behaving similarly to canon self ???​ lol
@TWLSpark
@TWLSpark 2 жыл бұрын
These games pander more to the fanon, which actually is the primary target of the series nowadays. Look at the huge amount of doujin works Touhou has - manga, games, and even anime. Only a minority came to the game for, well, playing, compared to the sheer majority that likes the series for what the fans brought to it. That's why most of these projects take the fanon personality and go with it, rather than the canon self - it isn't that they dislike the canon, but they simply are more knowledgeable about the fanon. It really doesn't help that you can count the amount of canon works readily available with just the fingers on your hands.
@Ninjadoku3779
@Ninjadoku3779 2 жыл бұрын
English is weird, I haven't heard of a tall game, but I do know of touhou games yes.
@TechMage299
@TechMage299 2 жыл бұрын
Hey your danmaku kagura slide at the beginning did the same thing mine did. The transparency wouldnt work and it turned green and brown lol. I can't remember how i fixed it tho tbh
@ShinyRaichu94
@ShinyRaichu94 2 жыл бұрын
It's really ashamed that Touhou Cannonball is my most favorite Touhou fangame, but Touhou LostWord is the Touhou fangame that I hate the most.
@f.u.m.o.5669
@f.u.m.o.5669 2 жыл бұрын
Why would I look at pngs of Chen?
@charlz9530
@charlz9530 2 жыл бұрын
Can you review danmaku kagura since they're shutting down in Oct 28?
@Cirnein
@Cirnein 2 жыл бұрын
I played it. I loved it, good times
@Brynica
@Brynica 2 жыл бұрын
i played Touhou Cannonbal only for my waifu Marisa
@korohacker
@korohacker 2 жыл бұрын
I still think that Touhou and the gacha system cannot mix well. Tbf, all the Touhou gacha games did have some rather high quality of music and artworks, but the need to grind or swipe credit cards for just one character you really want doesn't sit well with me. Don't get me started with all the odd alts in Touhou LostWord. Though, I did read that ZUN is immensely interested in mobile games development, and would wish to make a mobile game by himself at one point. So, I guess that's a thing. Just hope it's not only a gacha game though...
@vonakakkola
@vonakakkola 2 жыл бұрын
i don't understand why Touhou and gacha cannot mix well, and after reading your comment i still don't understand what's the problem with this isn't even for Genshin Impact that people swipe credit card for just one character? or because on GI people feel more forced to have meta characters? btw i play Genshin Impact as f2p but never played before any Touhou gacha game
@cabbagecabbage5047
@cabbagecabbage5047 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what is the source of the image at 5:46 ?
@blackwatchpilot5329
@blackwatchpilot5329 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of thickening the layer of gacha economics non-sense that Asian mobile publishers love to abuse, they should have simply tried billing players an entry fee (disguised as a welcome pack or some other) if they wanted to attempt something so costly. It would have covered there asses for awhile to rebound and tinker around with the game rather than struggle for its short life. Touhou cannonball was already only going to appeal to Touhou diehards, so I don't think many Touhou fans would be against coughing up $20 bucks for a game that included their favorite character(s) with good artwork, voices, custom music and so on. And if you survived long enough to make positive changes and develop a better economy, Touhou fans would reach out to other Touhou fans, and non-Touhou fans and you'd soon get a steady stream of players and income globally. Because if you make a mobile game of an established IP that meets the bare minimum expectations for fans you will be met by modest success. Which is what we're seeing with Lost Word, hell we're even seeing it with Diablo Immortal. Despite the garbage economy, has apparently great gameplay. So the balancing act of mobile scene seems very easily navigable if you have the insight; it's a shame the Cannonball devs did not.
@potatortheomnipotentspud
@potatortheomnipotentspud 2 ай бұрын
>Is Gacha game Immediately dead to me
@etremely
@etremely 2 жыл бұрын
awesome stuff dude! love ur vids :]
@Redxyellow1
@Redxyellow1 2 жыл бұрын
Make a discord server, this is a threat
@marx4538
@marx4538 2 жыл бұрын
0:20 daily reminder that the Rock Maiden games are utter garbage
@dendx3888
@dendx3888 2 жыл бұрын
The gacha in LostWord seems more fair then other mobile games, my opinion
@anemone5264
@anemone5264 2 жыл бұрын
Fumo?
@oofingberg
@oofingberg 2 жыл бұрын
Touhou lost word is ass
@f.n.8540
@f.n.8540 2 жыл бұрын
why do you pronounce all the japanese so weirdly
@cartoonfantasy4541
@cartoonfantasy4541 2 жыл бұрын
STOP USING THE WOOSH SOUND EFFECT
@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
woosh
@xb70valkyriech
@xb70valkyriech 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the game everyone steals the art from nowadays
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