The Tower of Babel with British Museum curator Irving Finkel

See various depictions of the Tower of Babel through the ages. With British Museum curator Irving Finkel
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[@tophers3756]

All I need to see is the name "Irving Finkel" in order to click on a video.

[@smourtoni]

oh yes same here

[@johnrodgers2018]

I want an Irving finkel t shirt

[@69newportking]

Yea he is awesome

[@PL4Y3R_ON3]

@@johnrodgers2018 I want an Irving Finkle beard

[@richardlitwin4046]

@@PL4Y3R_ON3 Yes I love him he is my daddy

[@is_A_me_mario]

As an Iraqi who lives in Babylon I am finding out more about my town from this guy than from me living there

[@toymachine2328]

It seems we frequently overlook the interesting places in our own hometowns

[@ThePoliticrat]

I thought it was in ruins. Or do you live in a nearby town?

[@myguitardidyermom212]

@@toymachine2328 yes! It's not as amazing as Babylon, but I found out I live near one of the oldest human settlements in North America. Even the most boring places has something amazing about it

[@AyeTeeJay91]

The historic tower of Babel was NOT Located in Babylon.

[@abnormallyfunny]

@@AyeTeeJay91 1:14 take it up with Irving.

[@Tsumami__]

I think the British museum needs to upload some new Irving videos for us to survive the pandemic. We need Dr Finkel!

[@RadagonTheRed]

_Watching paint dry with Irving Finkel_ Me: CLICK! YES!

[@Cuban20]

@Telios Abraxas Flies Fucking? Let me just.......CLICK

[@maxkohl1989]

You probably mean “Watching clay tablets dry”... :-)

[@extremistcontent1337]

If such a massive structure can be erased so completely to leave no trace i wonder what other, even older structures might have been erased.

[@tewekdenahom485]

The larger and more complex we built something, the larger chance that it would be destroyed Complex and big = colossus of Rhodes and tower of babel Big but simple = pyramid of Giza

[@pomponi0]

Well, monoliths exist, and we have no idea (nor way to figure out) what they were used for, or who built them. Sure, some have human remains buried nearby, but not all of them, and those people might as well have settled a couple centuries after the monoliths were built.

[@tomasbleho1775]

similar to nuclear bomb eliminated all trace of the tower . the culture peoples did not want such a memory to have any remembrance .

[@stangeriam]

CrackMonkey..good point. While the 'elite' perpetuate war, they destroy history , culture and the traditional tribal system (family).

[@illustriouschin]

It didn't exist. It was a fairy tale to explain the different languages to children.

[@neilpollicino80]

Only just yesterday “discovered” Irving Finkel...I’m a huge fan‼️

[@jangonauta]

Me 2 and now i cant enough best thing in 2020

[@janicekrieger1922]

Only found him today, I’m hooked!

[@masterbuilder7672]

another oxbridge liar

[@joelfalk2276]

The subtitles say it was 17 meters tall, but I'm sure the narrator is saying 70. And from the scale of the humans, it must be 70.

[@masterbuilder7672]

don't know, but the priests of babylon should have known about the importance of a strong foundation and bearing weight *on the lack of a foundation.* that's what caused the tower to wobble and fall down in every direction...

[@Zeupater]

Imagine a central location, a market for trade, where records are kept and translators gather near or at a ziggurat. Imagine the tower were to suddenly and catastrophically collapse. Suddenly there is no place for traders from distant lands to meet and trade. Suddenly the ability to communicate and maintain trade networks has been destroyed. I can imagine mythology developing from such an event.

[@yamiyomizuki]

Except that as far as we know the ziggurat of etamananki never actually suffered a catastrophic collapse

[@LionKing-ew9rm]

Except that two airplanes hit it by an order from CIA, Mossad, Saudi Arabian intelligence!

[@raphwalker9123]

Traders don't need a giant monument to meet.Most market places are plazas or long streets.

[@ainsleystevenson9198]

Zeupater Yes, and here we are in the same position today. It is not a matter of "if" but "when" the next solar flare event happens, and as we know from the Carrington Event in 1859, every electrical devise and satellite will be fried causing fire to obliterate cities, the few survivors living in isolation would once again have increasing language barriers. There is one thing we learn from history, and it is that we don’t learn from history lol.

[@Alusnovalotus]

Zeupater sadly these amazing tales were only remembered by a primitive people (Israelites) who left one of the most ancient urban civilizations and went back to the boonies that is now modern day Israel and recounted the wonders they saw but couldn’t explain.... and told and retold until someone who could read and write out the stories down on parchment and called it sacred history. 🤔🤔

[@patrickbrumm1282]

that painting looks like where JRR Tolkien maybe got his design for Minas Tirith, the White City of Gondor

[@lectorintellegat]

I always thought it was mont st. Michael

[@RocketChild]

The painting also, reminds me of Laputa Castle in the Sky as well - Which must have been a reference for the film

[@k8eekatt]

What amazing images and accessible descriptions!

[@rachels5741]

This ziggurat of Babel may not have survived the winds of time, but the Sumerian city of Ur's did. This city was of Sumer (slightly earler in origin than babylon). Ur was the city mentioned in the bible as the home of Abraham which he immigrates from and it still stands today. It is mesmerising

[@brainiac642]

What I'd like to know is why tower of Babel is enshrined in myth and the bible while the Great Pyramid is significantly bigger and apparently pre-dated it, but doesn't appear similarly in the cultural mythos.

[@icarus6492]

Well, the jews were enslaved by Egyptians before, so I doubt they want to commemorate then in their holy books. Also, for some reason, Babylon has been depicted as a wicked country ever since the old testament all the way till the new. I don't know if that's cultural bias or what.

[@thespasm86]

@@icarus6492 , it was because the Babylonians exiled a lot of jews to Babylon as a result of wars between the two sides

[@icarus6492]

@@thespasm86 ahh, i see. Thanks!

[@Frankowillo]

@brainiac642: Biblical propaganda. The Great Pyramid existed in Egypt when the Jews both arrived and left there. The writers of the bible couldn't put any "spin" on it. However, they could incorporate their god/belief in a myth about the Tower of Babel. God's wrath and all that nonsense, to strike fear into the minds of the superstitious. Preachers are still doing that today.

[@thatONEmachine]

Lionelson Norbert And they were also sick. Look into the sacrifices to Mullock Or Saturnalia:

[@claireellis8985]

YOU ARE BRILLIANT IRVINE! THANK YOU SO MUCH. STAY SAFE.

[@WalterRMattfeld]

Irving Finkel in his book _The Ark Before Noah_ (Doubleday 2014) understands that Genesis was composed in the Babylonian Exile, circa 587-540 BC. Mesopotamian myths have the city of Babylon being created by the gods before the creation of mankind. That means the Tower of Babylon (a ziggurat) was built by the gods for their place of habitation. The Bible refutes the Mesopotamian account. Men built Babylon and its tower, not gods. The Bible denies the existence of other gods, there is only one god, Yahweh-Elohim. As for the scattering of the Babylonians "who left off building their city" (and presumably, tower too): A real event may be recalled. The Assyrian King Sennacherib, in 689 BC, conquered Babylon and ordered its complete destruction down to its foundations. Then he diverted the Euphrates river to overflow the city's site making "a watery meadow" of where the city had once stood with its tower-ziggurat and defensive walls. Sennacherib also ordered the deportation of all of Babylon's inhabitants, scattering them across the confines of the Assyrian empire, which extended from Elam and Media (modern Iran or Persia) in the East to Egypt in the West, and modern Turkey in the North. Why did Sennacherib do this? He tired of repeated rebellions by the Babylonians, and their attempt to re-establish their independence (biblical: "make a name for themselves") from the Assyrian Empire. Archaeologists have confirmed Sennacherib's total destruction of the city, to its foundations, and the canals he had made crossing all over the city, to make a watery meadow of the site by diverting the Euphrates River. The Babylon one sees today is the rebuilt Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar circa 589 BC. He rebuilt the ziggurat-tower. The Persians captured Babylon in 539 BC and at first spared the city and ziggurat-tower. But, eventually a desire for independence (biblical: "make a name for themselves") caused more rebellions. The exasperated Persians tore down Babylon's defensive gates, made holes or breaches in the defensive walls, tore down the tower-ziggurat and carried off the statue of Babylon's god, Marduk (biblical Merodach) to Persia where he remained a captive and disappeared eventually. As for the notion of many languages replacing one at Babylon, this may allude to the fact that Babylon's native language was Akkadian, but, being a cosmopolitan center of trade, that one language was overtaken by many languages heard in its streets by foreign merchants and tradesmen and captured peoples. For more info see H.W.F. Saggs. _Peoples of the Past: The Babylonians._ University of California Press, Los Angeles. 2000. Also available in Great Britain under the British Museum Press.

[@user-go4fb7se8i]

Mavors44 No, the bible described the worship of gods (עבודת אלילים) by the neighboring countries, but never aceppt them as real! The first command in the 10 commandments is God is One and there shall be no other god on him!

[@WalterRMattfeld]

Agreed!

[@garishyager3659]

Walter R. Mattfeld Terrible lies

[@jerkfudgewater147]

Well i wanted to argue a variety of points but you covered them pretty well... thanks i guess. But 1 final question remains, there is still that giant stump of a structure called the Ziggurat, is that the remade bit from Nebicanezer’s time or were they just really bad at “completely destroying” it?

[@jessicalee333]

"Worship no other gods before me", doesn't suggest that the gods didn't exist - in fact, it implies more strongly that they did. That, along with the use of plural "gods" in the earliest Genesis story, including why Adam & Eve couldn't eat the fruit of the tree of life (after they had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil) because "then they will become gods like us" - which is why they were kicked out of the garden, so they wouldn't get to the tree of life and eat its fruit and become gods. I mean, on a more practical level... Yahweh was one of many gods in the Canaanite pantheon, the war god. He wasn't even the leader of the gods. But a people who worshiped a pantheon of gods... to suddenly say "we're keeping ONE of our gods, he's the only one who exists" would be a bit weird. But to say he must be worshiped above all other gods (which is what the book says, for what it's worth) makes more sense in that context.

[@Pembroke.]

What I find strange about this tale is that the tower was about 70 or 90 meters high. Yet today, we have buildings that dwarf this in comparison. So, what were they trying to reach above them?

[@annatetti7922]

Mister Irvin Finkel, l follow your brilliant knowledge of ancient Sumerians and the middle east history. The Noah Ark and the games, you bring all these stories to life. Thank you!!

[@michaelives5729]

Adding this to my watch later list for

[@caseyalan5398]

This man is a treasure that must be protected at all costs. Any counties at war should bring him in to mediate.

[@Elazar40]

The Tower of Babel, even though everyone spoke the same language, is metaphoric for a societal breakdown in communication. And when our ability to communicate truthfully is diminished, so too does our creative order collapse.

[@dnimon936]

you are closer to the truth

[@johnwattdotca]

Alazar de Lusignan M.: Please don't discount the history. The language of The Garden of Eden is still being spoken. Bay-an-uck-let, blessings on you. You should look at the Jewish god Baal, before Moses. Baalbek as an ancient city did fall, with a huge tower. The Book of Mormon describes this and how one tribe made it across the Atlantic to start cities in Central America. You should wonder when medea became media and hydra became hydro. Clan Watt never manufactured. I'm good with that. If all communication was doing now was diminishing, that would be the best. The way social media is today makes insanity a big part of the political conversation.

[@roscoe416]

@@johnwattdotca Are you a Mormon?

[@johnwattdotca]

@@roscoe416 No. I read the Book of Mormon and accept most of it as history. The church in Utah really doesn't relate to that.

[@roscoe416]

@@johnwattdotca Funny I am the opposite. I go to the Mormon church but I find it hard to believe the bom.

[@experiment506]

Man that really is massive for a neolithic/bronze age structure. Real impressive.

[@TheDamageinc81]

Copper hammers and chisels right? 😂

[@Prestonhlt]

Machines have aided in our construction in modern times, but man, imagine the man power to build back in those days. It's definitely possible, but man, how many hath passed, hurt and enslaved for these monuments of ego. How hath we continued these notions of importance in things that truly are not. Father told me, once, that you humans are missing the point. Never hath Father obliged any of you to worship, or kneel below him. Father simply want us to make everything work. Yet, as shown with the tower of Babel, and the modern sky towers now, humans hath fallen into the lies of other humans and now pain is all there is left.

[@mitchellgruninger9992]

@@Prestonhlt a lot of ancient buildings like the pyramids were built by contracted men, Not much is known about the tower of Babylon nor really what it looked like.

[@mitchellgruninger9992]

It is the early middle East however and not Egypt

[@MisterCharlton]

Probably a ziggurat built by Gilgamesh as a statement, representing his desire to defy the gods and conquer death.

[@zhankfor]

The closed captions say that it "must have been about 17 metres tall" but I think it's meant to say 70!

[@rubiks6]

The tower of Babel was in Eridu, Sumaria. The foundation is still there today. Search Google maps. From Eridu, go northeast until you find "The Great Ziggurat of Ur."

[@robertschlesinger1342]

Very interesting video. Some of these early ziggurats had a Babylonian cuneiform inscription in the center of many bricks used. Said inscription identifying the king or building or both. Some buildings may have used cone shaped objects set in the building, with cuneiform inscriptions and text thereon. Hopefully, this will be discussed further in future videos.

[@masterbuilder7672]

there were pyramids in atlantis. all pyramids symbolize the ideal city as a whole. pyramids also symbolize hierarchies. no pyramid was not built by a masonic temple. it's embarassing to see commoners claim the design and labour of masons and workers who perished centuries ago.

[@christopherfarrell-artist3557]

Can you make your excellent videos longer and more in-depth? These are great!!!

[@AdilMinocherhomjee]

I need more Irving Finkel!

[@orsettomorbido]

I wonder if in the painting there are depicted technologies that simply did not exist at the time of the "construction" of the tower. Also, didn't know about the Ziggurat, that is fascinating!

[@blaqrose4531]

I living all your vids

[@hattusilli2225]

We are still writing more history as we flourish and strive for making better world than the one we found.

[@flymasterA]

They had a music store too. Babel-gum was popular.

[@charred1506]

Where did Irving go? Bring him back.

[@Neldidellavittoria]

It's always a pleasure to listen to Dr Finkel. BTW, is it me or does it sound like he said the tower was seventeen metres tall? I'm sure he meant 70, but that's how it sounded to me.

[@livrowland171]

He said 70, can't be 17 going by the proportions in the model

[@adolflenin4973]

THANK YOU THE BRITISH MUSEUM 🖒👍❤

[@barbaralouisebenjamin5918]

This was the era of the first city states was it not? Diverse people came together . The building was a symbol of the extent of the city's influence and power. Their ambition outweighed their technical expertise no doubt.

[@shadowraith1]

Enjoy the history. However, for whatever reason, the background music was a bit to loud.

[@claymore9032]

My man! Irving Finkel!

[@ThePp12345678]

The EU Brussels building design, is modelled on The Tower of Babel which is a very strange thing to want to replicate

[@TheDamageinc81]

Have you seen the popes audience hall architectured into a fucking snake?!?

[@Mr.Grimsdale]

The EU building when viewed directly from above looks like an 'eye' and so does the Rome Colosseum, coincidence ?

[@ThePp12345678]

@@Mr.Grimsdale Great surname BTW, that's my surname too. I didn't know about that, but will definitely look into it. Cheers for the comment!

[@ThePp12345678]

@@TheDamageinc81 Yes I have seen that. It's very very disturbing especially when The Snake in Genesis depicts the Devil who through temptation took away the innocence of man and woman.

[@adamplentl5588]

How can that possibly be accurate when we dont know what the Tower looked like?

[@LEARSIKCIGAM]

a 20+ story building must have been very impressive

[@kaloarepo288]

The Burg Khalifah in Dubai(world's tallest building) is the modern tower of Babel -but couldn't also the modern space program with its intrusion into the realm of the gods be considered a modern equivalent?

[@masterbuilder7672]

absolutely true. also, the stars = the appearances of the devils ("gods"). the realm of "the gods" = the sky above earth and beneath the firmament.

[@KasumiRINA]

realm of the godS isn't a thing in the Bible, as it denies gods even existing, only capital G God.

[@JayBelafonte]

The tower and Babylon were in Quebec Canada.

[@TheDamageinc81]

Irving Finkel could read a phone book to me and keep my attention ...

[@genericalfishtycoon3853]

o/ Always good to see a brother in the comments section.

[@VendErre]

I love that depiction of the tower of Babel shown at the beginning. Like a city rising vertically up, up into the sky. Imagine how much fun it would be to lounge in its corridors, to peer out of its balconies, to sit upon its steps. Truly an amazing vision.

[@clickfeedvideo2743]

So a lot of the oldest bricks used for other things could have been used from the bricks of the Tower of Babel?

[@WalterRMattfeld]

The Babylonians understood that their Ziggurats were artifical mountains for the gods to dwell on, NOT "TOWERS"! In fact some of these Ziggurats were called "Mountain" which is Kar/Kur in Babylonian (contrast Babylonian Kar/Kur with Hebrew Har meaning "mountain").

[@SeanONilbud]

A tower.

[@RPGHouseFabricator]

Um... Think bigger than a mountain for this tower.

[@julesgosnell9791]

but you are reading an account derived from the experiences of a bunch of enslaved Hebrew hod-carriers who would not have been privy to the grand plan and even if they had would not have had a vocabulary to express it....

[@heatherh3457]

The biblical story of the Tower of Babel predates Abraham and therefore Nebuchadnezzar ziggurat. They are not one and the same . The ziggurat only indicates that there may have been architectural knowledge in antiquity that enabled the construction of a tower such as the tower story portrays.

[@MisterCharlton]

I fucking love his beard.

[@ToolsAreToys]

So, That's why it was called a babelfish!! :o

[@prapidcihuy5339]

i wish to have this video to have a better audio

[@Mmmmmmmmmmdamgoodmix]

I'm sure the bricks were reused and are present in old/ancient buildings

[@Michael-rg7mx]

The ancient people passed down history about a civilization prior to destruction. Then the Ice Ages came destroying most remnants except for small scattered tribes. After 2.4 million years all that remained were stones. Not even that in places like North America where it was scrubbed clean. The small tribes spoke different languages and even had different hair and skin colors.

[@lindaj5492]

2:00 Was the height 17m or 70m? Captions read 17m but model with people to scale looks like they should read 70m. Listening at 0.25 speed, I think he’s saying 70 metres.

[@Israeliteupk]

Tower of Babel is during Nimrod's and Shem's Era, NOT during Nebuchadnezzar time period.

[@briancrane7634]

A simple calculation of the compressive strength of un-fired mud brick indicates the maximum height must have been less than about 300 feet. Fired mud brick would have allowed a structure much higher but there are not enough trees in the whole of the middle east to burn to fire that many bricks...the ancients must have thought 'the heavens' were much closer...odd since there are mountains much higher than that in the area...

[@julesgosnell9791]

Maybe there was a weight-bearing structure comprising a small quantity of high quality fired bricks complemented with a filler of cheaper sun-dried bricks ? I'm sure that the architect was have been more than capable of figuring it out. You've thought about it for five minutes, they will have thought about it for generations...

[@ulalaFrugilega]

Divide and rule. By the way, what does Ziggurat mean?

[@adamplentl5588]

I bet you could Google that word yourself.

[@geridayao8924]

I think that it is yet in the process of determining the exact location,. The ziggurat in this video does not necessarily confirm that the subject tower rested in this location.

[@rlbrown1009]

There are so many languages (many are created with trick words) I wonder how this was created?

[@marcuslex8654]

The Tower of Babel full explanation in 4 minutes. WOW amazing . Good job man. Can you also make the Bile in under 2 minutes? That would be truly super amazing.

[@MoviMakr]

No problem. The OT Bible: Plagiarized Near-East literature, Anti-Near East paganism propaganda, and some OG Jewish stuff with a little apocryphal (sketchy) Greek stuff thrown in for good measure to keep the Hebrews under full control of the kings and religious leaders.

[@Kai_Peters]

91m^2 seems like a very small base. I guess he meant 91m*91m or 8281m^2.

[@ChrisGoldenmouth]

For all the ignorant people in the comments disagreeing with this. There's two candidates for the tower of Babel. The tower of Borsippa and the Etemenanki ziggurat of Babylon. The tower of Borsippa theory is supported by a few ancient sources, but archaeological evidence is inadequate to say that it was the tower of Babel. The Etemenanki on the other hand is a way more possible candidate. Herodotus claims it is the biggest building in Babylon, a temple to Bel Marduk, from which the Chaldeans could observe the stars. Ctesias also mentions the construction of a great tower in Babylon by the Assyrian king Nimrod and his wife. According to him it was an observatory for the priests of the Chaldeans. A center of astronomical and astrological research, "trying to reach god" as the Bible puts it.

[@ilovebigtrees4016]

The Tower of Babel foundation remains are in Eridu. Not Babylon or Ur… common mistake though.

[@nicanornunez9787]

Dr Irving is so fucking cool

[@shainazion4073]

Anything Irving Finkle does is fine by me.

[@AE-TDK]

1. Is the tower of Babylon mentioned in any of the tablets, the actual cuneiform written by the Babylonians? Or is it only talked about in the old testament ? 2. The direction of the writing in the cuneiform is it right to left or left to right? 3. The idea of upon the destruction of the tower humans started speaking different languages is not correct if Sumerians already spoke a different language than the Babylonians, and If Alexander the Great defeated the Babylonians and he spoke a different language, then went to India and where they spoke a different language as well. During what time the tower was destroyed for the world as a whole to speak different languages? 4. In Iraq and in the province of Samara, there still stands the tower, so which tower was it that was destroyed??

[@john.harrison]

You are expecting the bible to be a historically accurate and reliable source?

[@AE-TDK]

@@john.harrison Noo sir, i know its false, fake, madeup and history is falsified

[@john.harrison]

@@AE-TDK well i wouldn't say all history is falsified but its good to understand how to assess the reliability of sources, biases, conflicting reports, and the information we don't have.

[@AE-TDK]

@@john.harrison As we get more access to historical sites and more and more Sumerian text and writing is transalted we discover that most of the Bible and the Torah is taken from and or copied from old Sumerian tales only the name of the characters are changed to reflect Jewish names. So the stole history and they falsified it. Also what is most credited to Romans and Greeks was already discovered during the Sumerian era. Someone decided to tell us things not as they are. Same thing with Egyptians, they are not credited for their discoveries but the Europeans were. Basic examples are Sumerian tablets with drawings of the cosmos and the planets, they knew earth was not flat, however history tells us Italians during the recent years did. And egyptians were using the measurement of the centimeter and the meter and Sumerian went with measurements of the half a meterme but history tells us the french discovered the unit of measure. These are just some examples and there are many like this like the battery of Baghdad discovered in iraq. And more mathematical fórmulas and trigonometry all discovered by during the time of Babylonians and Assyrians. The evidence is there if one chooses to investigate it and learn from it. History today is shaped according to someones need and benefits. Not being told or taught to us as it is and as it should. The Jewish like to put themselves in a time and place where they did not exist and like to claim the glory of others for themselves.

[@KasumiRINA]

@@AE-TDK you're speaking misinformation: nobody says Italians discovered the Earth is round, Greeks absolutely knew that. Egyptians didn't use modern meter, and French didn't invite measurements, they just standardized them, as, say, 1 elbow in Egypt would be different from an "elbow" in Babylon... but yeah you started and ended with an antisemitic conspiracy so you're just wrong on all accounts.

[@scottsmith4145]

That building would have been a thousand years old when Nebuchadnezzar-II was ruling. Think of it,,, do we have any administrative buildings today being used that were built in 1022? I suppose it could have lasted so long but probably had a lot of remodeling done along the way...

[@texwif]

Oh no, all those stairs!

[@stethacanthus7861]

At least they didn't have vacuum cleaners back then or it would be some poor sod's job to hoover them all.

[@pauldavies8638]

Could have done with a elevater installing.

[@TranscendentLion]

Imagine getting halfway up and then realising you'd left something behind.

[@Zalmoksis44]

Should have been 70m, not 17, as it is in the subtitles now.

[@koammudo43]

If saucers ran on gravity maybe it would be something like holding a pan under the facet and moving left right back and fourth with the wait of the water you move faster and as it empties you can steady it again. You don't control the water you just use it you can let it over flow if you could support that motion upward at that angle . The saucer... nvm I just smoked 😅👋👋

[@scottsmith4145]

However, I would think to be called a "tower" it should stand taller in height than width of its base which is not the case according to this info...

[@sgonzo5572]

Imagine someone fallowing down all those steps.

[@scar3fr3ak]

So if "nothing remains" of the tower, wtf did you measure to be 91m²?

[@stsk1061]

Nothing remains isn't quite correct. The foundation is still there and has been excavated. Besides, the size of the ziggurat was given in ancient sources.

[@vuk1419]

2:16 very identical to Ziggurat of Ur in Iraq

[@landryprichard6778]

The personal theological/spiritual meaning I get is like the psychedelic experience. One wants to reach God, whatever that is, and upon arriving, there is a caveat: You will not be able to talk about this to anyone without them thinking you are crazy. They won't understand you, much like you won't understand their own personal experience with the divine. Not fully.

[@skkk352]

How is Irving doing.....? 😍

[@messianic_scam]

still nobody knows how it really looked like this is only an image so how do you tell!

[@tlatoanimachi]

Tower of Babel location was in modern day Canada, the land of Canaan.

[@racistasian8073]

It's Nimrod not Nebuchadnezzar who was the king

[@tomasbleho1775]

the sheep are asleep .

[@genericalfishtycoon3853]

@@tomasbleho1775 The 60y1m don't know. 🙏

[@albertgainsworth]

I think that the people who built the structure disappeared for some reason and the building decayed, as they will. The people who moved into the area had questions: "Who built that and why?" Together with, "Why do the neighbouring tribes speak a different language than we do?" So they created a myth to explain it.

[@BandIndigo]

Suddenly asmr.

[@jilleven67]

I often questioned and mused why the Almighty was upset of man's advancement and unity, "look there is not a thing they can do now".. besides making a celebrated name; why would God be concerned, with "celebrated" advancement of men...was it threaten the status quo? I find it ironic we know build sky scrapers and have translation technologies.

[@CarolinaGirl33]

I've been pondering God's wrath and punishments upon us mere mortals (whom He made in his own image 😉) for the past 30 years or more. They don't make any sense to me, I just don't get some of them. Like the Tower of Babel and God becoming angry with us for daring to build such a thing as to almost reach the heavens, just to name one example lol. I guess he thought we were getting too big for our britches huh? He had to remind us, his "children", who was boss! He sure did, didn't he? Scared the shite right out of us, had us all babbling nonsense, confused, until finally we scattered to the four winds and kept to ourselves and our own little tribes and told God how sorry we were for .....uh.....for... what was it again? 🙄

[@titaniumtiara4573]

The point of the tower wasn’t about humans cooperating, it was because fallen man, in their arrogance and ignorance, determined to make it to heaven by force rather than rely on God or live an obedient life.

[@Imtotallydiggingthis]

It wasnt the height of the tower that was the issue, but the wickedness it was purposed for.

[@danpaulson927]

Jill Even Ah yes, When the deep meaning of myth and legend are lost in the minds of those who think its historical. I find that hysterical.

[@RKroese]

If there is only one dominant culture on earth, there would be the downtrodden and the down threaders forever. Established until the end of time. War is a great equalizer. Some rise, some fall, but the dominant culture on earth will be the one to unite them all and thus seek to create equality and peace, rather than dominance. He who fights, will lose.

[@davidstokes8441]

I wanted to hear what Finkel was saying, not the squealing of a banshee that someone thought of as music. When commentators speak, all else should be mute.

[@Jean-yn6ef]

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[@pauldavies8638]

Sorry if you build on sand with no solid foundations like they Did of course it will fall down like the hanging gardens did

[@typograf62]

The monument to KOMINTERN was to resemble the "tower of Brueghel". It was not built. Now we are talking about an elevator to space. Perhaps it is about time that we did try that project, not just writing tales. It really could be useful. I do not take bible text for much, but I like a statement from this story: That if all humans work together then nothing is impossible for them. An exaggeration, but I like the idea.

[@liquidvisual]

Audio levels wildly fluctuate,

[@silverfox4055]

My father was in a firefight at the base of the tower when he was sent over during GWOT. I won't say anything more, but he's read through the Bible twice, cover to cover, but he doesn't just take the Good Book's word just as is. I'd say he was telling the truth. ((Edit - Spelling))

[@snowrider4495]

He said its blown up to life size? That building needs to be at least 4times bigger!

[@stan.rarick8556]

No he didn't. He said that the image behind him (photograph?) was LARGER than life size (of the original painting).

[@snowrider4495]

@@stan.rarick8556 it was a joke from the movie zoolander! LOL

[@stan.rarick8556]

@@snowrider4495 not having seen that movie...........

[@snowrider4495]

@@stan.rarick8556its a silly comedy movie about male models and zoolander getting older and a new model is capturing his jobs! there's a scene where zoolander, ben stiller, is shown a model of a building by magatu, will ferrel, they are going to build for zoolanders kids foundation. zoolander looks at the model and tell the magato the building is too small and that he needs to build it at least 3times bigger!

[@johnwattdotca]

Are you sure you have the correct name or translation? It was The Tower of Baalbek.

[@mattkemerait]

That painting is unreal!

[@ThePoliticrat]

Genesis 11 is one of the most fascinating stories in the Bible.

[@michaelhasfel7]

I translated this video into Portuguese over a year ago, and the caption was never activated. WTF people!

[@gregorygraham9371]

I hereby state without reservation, irony, or subterfuge that unless Bill Gates builds a ziggurat, he’s just a tosser. Your move, Bill. The gauntlet has been thrown.

[@hreodbeorhtcheesewright4889]

Totally. The cost of building the Great Pyramid today has been estimated at $5 billion. If I were a multi-billionaire I would totally be up for that. And ziggurats are even cooler.

[@adajohnson6758]

I believe it is in New York .

[@BD-oc7fj]

The British Museum?

[@saigonmonopoly1105]

that is history repeat itself and there is not a thing u can do about it

[@cometmoon4485]

How could there be no trace of the Ziggurat left? Sure it's been millennia, but how does a structure that gigantic simply vanish??? The Pyramids are still here.

[@tompurcell1499]

I long had the inclination that the Tower of Bab-El (Gateway to El) was what are now the ruins of the ancient (and possibly oldest) city of Eridu. Also, the plains around Eridu was also called an edin from which Eden. Furthermore, I understand that there were a number of places called Babylon (or Bab-Elyon: Gateway to the Most High). I imagined that wherever there was a ziggurat built, that place would informally be called a bab-elyon, for gods lived up mountains and a ziggurat - like a pyramid - symbolized a mountain. But this was mere conjecture on my part, and given that I am no scholar on this subject, I am certainly in no position to gainsay the marvellous Dr Finkel.

[@intensitydigital]

Well if it was destroyed by a natural disaster they probably cleared the land and built something new. It was in the middle of a huge city that has existed for thousands of years.

[@kevinbyrne4538]

@Cometmoon448 -- When you build with bricks made of mud instead of roasted clay, centuries of rain will eventually erode to nothing whatever you built.

[@TheBoldImperator]

Pyramids are made of sandstone and limestone blocks. Etemenanki was made of sun-fired clay. Most Mesopotamian ruins have long faced into the dust beyond foundational remains: anything you see above the surface today is modern.

[@Serai3]

Dude, there are many ancient structures we know about only through the writings left behind. See: the 8 wonders of the ancient world. Most of them are either completely gone or have left only traces with none of the actual structure.

[@44hawk28]

There may very well have been a time when everyone on the planet spoke the same language. But it was a hell of a long time before the second millennium BC. That is an allegorical story, not one that is what within its proper time element. The records of the Chinese and in their language you see at the Tower of Babel may very well have occurred, but they date it long before 2000 BC. The Chinese had a fully functioning Society by 2000 BC. And they kept copious records.

[@spacedandy7555]

44 Hawk 4000-3000 B.C. According to some archeologists and their findings.

[@julesgosnell9791]

If language has only evolved once - and I haven't done any reading around this - then it would have evolved not just before the iron age, the bronze age, the dawn of civilisation... but in a species precursive to Homo Sapiens - probably in Africa - since it looks as if Neanderthals and I expect Denisovans, Floresiens, ?Luzonens? etc would all share languages that had descended and diverged from this common ancestor. Or else, language has evolved multiple times possibly in multiple species .... food for thought....

[@karenabrams8986]

It was all those stairs. People got fed up over having to go up that many stairs. Ridiculous!

[@alexscott730]

They weren't fat,lazy out of shape slobs back then so those stairs were not a problem.

[@karenabrams8986]

Maybe that’s a good idea for a fitness program. Ziggurat tours.

[@chakir348]

People traveled deserts on their feet and you dont think they cant wall those stairs

[@rayva1]

That was one heck of a massive building and all for what?

[@adamplentl5588]

Prolly just trying to get good 1G wifi.

[@grantbartley483]

It makes no sense to equate the ziggurat with the tower of Babel in Genesis. The Genesis timeline puts the Babel incident way before the bronze age. So the ziggurat was a later tower. Why would you conclude otherwise?

[@bennysoulik7464]

Where did this Nebuchadnezzar appeared all of a sudden to the tower of babel when really he does not exist at the time or perhaps still pambered and cannot even crawl yet? His appointed time was for eons later. Twisted and upside down....

[@cloudleopard7695]

I read the story of "Babal" in the original Hebrew translations and it completely opposite of what the masses think !!!

[@souloftheteacher9427]

So...who are "the masses"? Not you, I guess? And can they spell "Babel"?

[@pauldavies8638]

Still a work of fiction whatever language.

[@MagicDragonesk]

I literally learned nothing other than just hearing the name of the building