The Toxic War on Masculinity, with Nancy Pearcey

How did an ideology arise that condemns masculinity as dangerous and destructive? For example, a headline in the Washington Post reads: ”Why Can't We Hate Men?" A trendy hashtag is #KillAllMen. Books are sold titled I Hate Men, No Good Men, and Are Men Necessary? Nancy Pearcey joins the podcast to discuss her upcoming book which takes readers through American History to discover how the secular script for masculinity turned toxic--and what action we can take to fix it.
We often hear that Exhibit A of toxic behavior is evangelical Christian men. But the social sciences tell a very different story. Studies find that family men who attend church regularly test out as the most loving husbands and the most engaged fathers. They have the lowest rate of divorce and--here's the real stunner--the lowest rate of domestic violence of any group in America.
The sociological facts explode anti-male stereotypes and show that classic Christianity has the power to overcome toxic behavior and reconcile the sexes.
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[@timstember8354]

This is one of Alisa's most important interviews. Let's get this book into the hands of fathers and grandfathers as a father's day gift and start to detoxify modern day men to reassume their God-given roles, as shepherds, providers and protectors for their families and communities. Thanks for this great interview with Nancy Pearcey.

[@solidonseraindogthetenth1679]

No one touch my fathers or brothers!

[@wallace-81]

🙏

[@heatherroberson5170]

As a mom of three boys, these issues are so important to me! Thank you for this information and looking forward to reading her book!

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

Hope that will help you. Success with your boys!

[@TechOutAdam]

As a man, one thing I find troubling is hearing other men not claim their masculinity. As if they're apologetic and scared to admit what they are, especially amongst women. Men nowadays feel they have two choices being the nice guy or bad guy but never think of being a good man.

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

Exactly!

[@dannil9878]

What does that mean, so vague? Wouldn’t it be better every man and woman to be how they want to be?

[@thesagetraveler7649]

Nancy Is a boss! So grateful for her work and the brilliant mund God gave her.

[@johntobey1558]

But she is also A good Mom. Her sin Dieter lived in Philadelphia, Pa and attended 10th Presbyterian Church. He was true Christian and a friend of mine back in 2003 when met my wife when she was attending UPenn school of Social Policy and Social Work.

[@chantellecunningham8899]

I learn so much every time I listen to Professor Pearcey. I’m looking forward to her new book.

[@dianaprince7713]

Fascinating research. Thank you for giving this a platform.

[@annaolokede4582]

My christian mother told me today that the role of women that are single is to wait on men. Women are not supposed to earn more than the man. She said, the man determines if she works or she stays at home because women are made for men. Any man that does not provide is useless. Usually we think a woman that gets an education is a failure but my mum says according to the bible, the woman should not have an education and not have a job. her job is what the mans wants , even thou it is controlling women. She says the miserable life she lived as part of beign a failure is what a woman is

[@jackjones3657]

Mrs. Pearcey makes a great point that the actual divorce rate of regular church attending and present husbands is much LOWER than the national averages. However, the divorce rates of nominal "christians" who inconsistently or rarely attend church and categorize themselves as "christian" is even HIGHER than that of secular men. That is a distinction we rarely hear of.

[@thomasbassett4905]

In 2022, I was blessed with the opportunity to undertake a course taught by Professor Pearcey centered on the developing manuscript for The Toxic War On Masculinity. As is the case with all her work, it is magnificent and cuts to the heart of things. Scholarly and comprehensive, she gives much needed clarity, shedding light on surprising facts about the history of concepts of masculinity, showing how the predominating ethos for manhood in the western world degenerated so badly and carving a road for the recovery of a healthy, biblical masculinity. I was amazed to learn just how much evangelical teachings have absorbed assumptions about masculinity rooted in 19th century secular thinking (Darwin, Freud) and the fragmenting impact that the Industrial Revolution had on the family and male identity. For me, the big takeaway from this book is that contrary to today's narrow, truncated and often heinous ontological assumptions about masculinity, it is not toxic, let alone synonymous with immorality. Masculinity is inherently good and synonymous with virtue. We should be grateful for Christ-like men, for it is in Jesus Christ that we find masculinity as God designed it. We must root masculinity in the 'right worldview' as Francis Shaeffer would say. The world has never been more misled about what it means to be a man. This is one of the most important books for our time. Thank you Alisa for hosting Professor Pearcey. This book will be read far and wide! God bless your ministry!

[@AlixPrappas]

I’d like to make a request sister. If a guest of your cites data, can you ask that they share the source of the data so we can search it (referencing the study she cited at the beginning of the conversation regarding happiness and divorce rates among devoted evangelicals)? Thank you for the conversation and the work your are doing for the kingdom Alisa.

[@thinker646]

Yes, please. For the sake of truth!

[@nolastretch474]

I suspect the research is cited in the guest's book she referenced. 😊

[@heatherroberson5170]

I was trying to find it myself! Guess I’ll have to buy the book 😄

[@daveschmidt5713]

Buy the book. Support the scholars.

[@lisadean4659]

Great interview. I've been concerned for a long time about this society's denigration of men. What this world needs are more good strong men not fewer! Uplifting women should not mean putting men down.

[@MerBlack]

It’s been in recent years that I’ve grown to absolutely enjoy home-making… and that joy keeps growing and growing. It’s something with which I can honor God well, and demonstrate love toward Him and my family. In His strength and for His glory (in all things). ♥️

[@jillcolvin4196]

My husband dropped out of the workforce early - he had abusive female bosses and there was NOWHERE to turn for advocacy.

[@kellyanne7225]

Good for him! That is such a toxic place for men. I hope he found a better place among men? I have an issue with women being above men in the workplace too. It depends on the environment and the job, but most times, it just doesn’t go well for the men.

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

Is she blaming the divorce rate on men? I thought two made a marriage, that’s where I disagree. Is she giving women an excuse to leave the marriage? I’ve seen women that were just as much at fault for breaking their own marriage up and had a loving spouse.

[@philipglanville5628]

I love this interview! Alisa your one of the best interviewers! It is so nice to hear this without the constant interruptions! Thanks for putting light on this important topic!

[@keepclimbing2015]

This discussion was riveting! Can't wait to listen to the book.

[@timbaines3562]

This was a treat - seeing two of the godliest ladies together discussing so eloquently such an incredibly vital issue facing Christians today. Thanks Alisa. I ordered Nancy's newest book today!

[@kencritchley5546]

I want to thank you for this great conversation. I just ordered the book. And thank you both for your courage as women to go against popular narrative and give value of masculinity. Its encouraging when women and men are willing to risk to serve and support one another.

[@bahunanna]

I just pre-ordered the book! Can't wait to read it. Thank yoy so much for talking about this. Hopefully, it will help me be a better wife and mother. ❤

[@nutricoach7947]

This is excellent. Hope it gets lots of views!

[@peters6345]

Wow fascinating video. I didn't realize how much secular ideas damaged what men strive for over time

[@bila8362]

Thank you very much for addressing the abuse issue. As a warning from personal experience, this can apply to Christian men who are truly regenerated and not just nominal, especially when the man is no longer connected to a body of believers. It is actually terrifying when Scripture is used as a weapon. It's actually a fair warning for each of us (Hebrews 10:24, 25, I Corinthians 12:12-31). We need one another.

[@AnniEast]

Not to invalidate your experience, but I do wonder...are you speaking about ongoing abuse from a regenerated believer? This is strange to me as willful sin is considered a sign of an unbeliever(1 John) and self control is a sign of a Spirit filled believer(Galatians 5). No one can really know if someone is truly regenerated or not, only God, but I can imagine that abuse from someone you believe to be Spirit filled must surely be worse than from someone not truly saved. Of course Spirit filled believers sin, but if it is ongoing, intentional and habitual then there are some serious red flags as to whether true regeneration has occurred.

[@bila8362]

@@AnniEast Thank you for your reply and question. You are, of course, absolutely correct that only God can be 100% certain if someone is truly regenerated. However, I'm talking about someone who for over 20 years clearly showed the fruit of being a strong, committed believer who always wanted to please God. This person appeared to change literally over night to someone who got a warped view of authority and 5 years later is still believing that view to be biblical which is beyond bizarre. The misuse of authority produced abusive behavior that this person doesn't believe was abusive and, of course, there is now the wonder if he was ever truly saved...as well as the frequent prayer to bring him to full recognition of his sin and repentace. It's heartbreaking.

[@AnniEast]

@@bila8362 thank you for your reply...that is heartbreaking, I am so sorry

[@bila8362]

@@AnniEast Thank you very much. You might have guessed that the person is my husband. Our children and I have been enstranged from him more or less for three years. Your prayers for healing, salvation if he doesn't have it, and restoration and reconciliation of our family would be greatly appreciated. God bless you. v

[@AnniEast]

@@bila8362 of course, God's heart is for families to be together, I will pray your husband will humble himself before the Lord and repent. I also pray for you for wisdom and peace

[@rrook9465]

My christian brother is a very good father to his daughters. He can also be very cruel to others and admits to having been a "bully" to some of his co-workers. Guys can be very nice to people when they are getting their way but watch-out when you tell them NO!

[@brandi5326]

Isn't that true of all people? And just further confirmation that what the bible says about our nature is true and we need Him to convict us and sanctify us until we meet Him in glory.

[@SpeakerBuilder]

No only were men no longer working around the home and around the family, but their work was no longer connected in any direct way to others, and the result of their work became abstract and disconnected from the community of others.

[@jeanamoreno9585]

Absolutely fascinating topic and historical information

[@jenniferhenn7874]

Thank you, thank you for saying that about Matt 18. This applies to marriage!

[@davidborrink137]

Can I just say thank you for the answer at the beginning with Jay Scher's commentary on the atoning sacrifice with the "write a check" analogy? What a great analogy of the old vs. the new system. My jaw dropped.

[@christianjohnson7029]

Can we get links to the studies?

[@markdonnaabbott3977]

I would go to Amazon, but every time I buy a book, someone decides they wanna hack our bank account. Amazon does nothing about it so unfortunately no amazon for us. Might have to wait 6 months for a Christian book store in Australia to sell this. Great interview, ladies. God's really impressing on me how godly men and men in general are being treated. My heart is burdened for them. Keep lifting them up in prayer women of God we need godly men to lead us ❤

[@Jesse-bv1kp]

First, I want to say that this discussion was a very good one and worth the listen. Second, Thank you for addressing the reality about bullies/abusive people.

[@LadyoftheBunnies]

I really like how the difference between more cultural Christians and Christians that are theologically sound is there. Instead of lumping everyone together.

[@rachelthebrave3337]

This is amazing. Thank you so much for your work, Nancy!!

[@christophergardiner5351]

About the part when they discussed what it meant to "man up," I disagree. That phrase is primarily said not for the good of the man it is directed at, but for the emotional satisfaction of the person speaking it. It demeans the man in an effort to make him feel he must atone, and there is a satisfaction the speaker gets from saying this phrase which is why it is used so often. The purpose the phrase "man up" is to make the speaker feel good at the cost of making the reciever feel bad. As for the phrase "be a real man," that means "a real man does what I want." People from all walks of life say that phrase and they all have different answers. Thus, in this case, a "real man" does whatever the speaker says, whenever, for whatever reason, and subject to recertification at any time for any or no reason all.

[@ModernBiopharmaPodcast]

I suppose that is your understanding...been around that phrase my whole life, not the way I've ever perceived it nor the way I've intended if saying it.

[@christophergardiner5351]

@@ModernBiopharmaPodcast maybe you didn't mean it that way, but in my experience that is what it means usually. Most people do not think before they speak when they are in a negative state, so when they do, what they say is coated in their emotions. This colors what they are saying in a very different light that even they who spoke the phrase would be against if it were said to them. What a person says when they are in a calm state of mind is very different and often comes across much better. The two phrase in discussion are rarely said in calmness.

[@ModernBiopharmaPodcast]

@@christophergardiner5351 I've heard it hundreds if not thousands of times. it has has almost exclusively been as an "encouragement" in a good hearted manner. I'd bet it is used that way 10-1 over the negative version you are talking about. It is how guys talk to each other. Whether in sports, military, physical labor or just hanging out, it is a typical phrase. I've no doubt people have/do use it from a point of pain, but your comment that it is "primarily" for the emotional satisfaction of the one speaking it just doesn't ring true. There are a million examples of things that could be said and meant a different way that aren't the norm but could be characterized in a negative light. I'm sorry, your comment is just an example of a step down the path of "criminalizing" another innocuous expression that very few have issues with for the purposes of sparing those same few's feelings.

[@christophergardiner5351]

@@ModernBiopharmaPodcast first of all, when did I say it should be criminalized? How did you get that from what I said. I stated that in my experience that is what those two phrases have meant. We do not hang out in the same circles, so perhaps there are differences in how things are. Also, the only time I was told to man up in the military was by my fellow soldiers who were trying to get me to cuss, swear, and try to get me to drink and sleep around.

[@narclem]

I have to agree, there are many instances when both expressions are used in an effort to shame a man. At best it is used as some form of negative reinforcement.

[@LarryBerg]

Get the likes 👍 up ya all

[@Steblu74]

Every time I see a Christian reasoning this morning I am struck by the transparent cleanliness of their arguments. Their logic does not need to take deceptive, convoluted side trails to hide motives as is often the case with unbelievers. First Lennox, and now these ladies. I am so thankful to God that I believe in Jesus...

[@The2012west]

I feel a connection here between the ideas/people Mrs. Pearcey is talking about and those referred to by Paul Washer in his most famous sermon

[@karenthornton6330]

Thank you. Great Book Great discussions

[@martarico186]

Loved, loved , loved it

[@suzanneyorkville]

excellent interview. thank you for introducing me to Nancy

[@kellyanne7225]

I’m going to partially disagree with the working from home. It’s not for everyone. It caused a lot of loneliness and frustration for many men who enjoy working with coworkers, needing to speak to people face to face, and not wanting to communicate through a screen. We aren’t designed to work and communicate this way as humans. Yay for productivity, but that came at a high cost. My husband was in law enforcement during covid, but exactly a year ago, he left. He began working from home with the promise of being out in the field in his new job. It took no time for him to suffer mental, emotional and physical issues. He went from being in top top physical shape to gaining weight, just from sitting all day long. This isn’t healthy for anyone. They refused to let him leave the prison of his office, which as a still licensed cop, not good, and he left the job after only a few months. He now works an awful shift, a super dirty job in construction and he absolutely LOVES his job! It’s physical, man’s work, and he feels an accomplishment in doing it. Men aren’t made to be sedentary. They’re made to use their muscles! 💪🏼 However, beyond that, this is by far, my favorite podcast!!! I’m going to save it to go back to these wonderful truths often! ❤

[@Yesica1993]

I'm glad he found a job that is better for him!

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

I agree! I as a woman would not be able to work from home.

[@josephzillmer2023]

First time listen to your podcast. Well done! Keep it up.

[@michelleverner7481]

I have been thinking about the comedy family and everyone loves Raymond, the honey mooners, the man with a plan there is so many I agree how society portrays man and family so good to hear that

[@annaberitfyen3731]

Thank you, Excellent.

[@FormerTrucker]

Bulls and Rams are not who committed the sins we did, and the sacrifice required a perfect human being who was without sin. SoChrist came in the form and image of sinful man who was without sin became the offering and the sacrifice for our sins. He became sin for us was put on the cross and died and was buried and three days and three nights later he was raised from the dead. And so he therefore overcoming death by his resurrection therefore we who believe on the Gospel of Jesus Christ are clothed in his righteousness.

[@JesusLovesTheLost]

Amen, well said!

[@noelajones619]

So helpful and full of insights, bless you both.

[@HAF-nv9dw]

Please note the fact that not all the jobs can be done remotely from home. Lots of works especially the blue-color jobs need to be done physically present. It seems to me that encouraging this aspect would exaggerate the divide between the laptop class and the blue-color working families

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

Exactly, not all jobs can be done in the home!

[@merc8es]

“I desire mercy not sacrifice” means exactly what it says. What a dance around a straightforward , plain statement. Neither “side” actually believes the scriptures it seems.

[@Bowandarrow17]

Nancy, please have a conversation with Sheila Gregoire. I’d love to hear the dialogue based off both your research!

[@LadyoftheBunnies]

Great interview!

[@sc-ds7hx]

This is fantastic!!

[@katherinec2759]

Does anyone have links to the sources for the studies about abuse, happiness, divorce, etc?

[@horridhenry9920]

Nancy can you sight the studies you referenced.

[@joshbeard9809]

That's what happened when we acquiesced to our bullies (the government and public health) things only got worse. Lockdowns, mandates, and restrictions would not have happened if we didn't comply. We allowed all the destruction to happen (the economy, suicides, people dying alone, depression, education, and a lot more harms the past 3+ years).

[@thecrew777]

I love the title! And I just have to say, the men and women who "want the name without the game" in Christianity, are sometimes psychopaths who have figured out they can present themselves like Satan does: as angels of light, while hiding their evil. There are SO many excellent husbands and wives who are True Bible Believing Christians who attend church regularly and take their faith seriously that are literal MODELS of what a good marriage should look like. Just needed to say that, because I've seen it over and over in my 60+ years. And WOMEN have become abusers yet are not ever reported, or when they are, police are reluctant to ever see a woman as the abuser, that our culture and our churches are not noticing. It's frightening to me when I found out all the women - ALL - in a "women's support group" admitted to having hit or beat on their boyfriends or husbands. So some of this is complicated by leaving half the information out. I enjoyed learning that men have more power in making a marriage work than they think they do. And that is part of why the war on men is so toxic, right? Great interview. Will definitely add this book to my wish list. I've been waiting for something like this for a long, long time.

[@RainbowMan.]

Beautiful!! 😍

[@judygranberg4018]

Question-- these women driven reform movements mentioned, where women were seen as more spiritually moral-- was that also when women started to become leaders in many non- mainline churches?

[@AlexanderosD]

Nancy Pearcey is fantastic 😁 thanks so much for sharing this! Society has truly raged against Jesus and the godly men who walk in Him. It's so sad to see the influx of "men" that are just boys roleplaying with no Christlike example of the kind of man they ought to be. And the influx of young girls embittered and resentful and traumatized by these roleplaying boys. The misandry must end. Men need to be raised to be Christ like, and that will not happen until we live like Christ as the example for the coming generation. And women need to understand that respecting and admiring and encouraging the men in their lives is the most strengthening and powerfully impactful thing you can do for them. And if he's a real man of God, he will see your sacrifice and submission and cherish it more than his own life.

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

But that doesn’t always mean, the woman will be receptive. She spoke as if a man acts a certain way, then a woman will, as if to lay all our faults as women onto men, just as men will answer to God for their actions on this earth, so will women, we will not be able to use men as an excuse.

[@Claire5020GEN]

TRUTH is beautiful

[@alfonsoreynosa8143]

Boys by nature are unruly, wild, and rambunctious. Boy are completely different than girls. There is nothing wrong with those traits. You can be those things and yet good, kind and loving. These traits allowed men to move forward to explore, protect.

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

Exactly! She’s just basically not even really saying that there’s any difference between boys and girls.

[@jenniferhenn7874]

Love te closing comments.

[@saraz9017]

Insightful

[@TheDSMIVTR]

Great interview. I'm curious: First Industrial Revolution or the Second? Could the Embargo Act of 1807 really be the beginning of what made men decide they needed to leave the home? What could this have been a reaction to? Could we go back to the Jamestown and Massachusetts Bay Colonies, which adopted a socialist view of work and wealth (which is why Jamestown disappeared)? The richer men at Massachusetts would have rather starved than worked. They finally adopted the Plymouth Rock Colony's more biblical model and finally prospered. Had the mood already been set?

[@SpeakerBuilder]

I was struck by the distinction between a good man and a real man, and I wonder if women are more often (at least initially) attracted to the real men and not so much to the good men.

[@annaolokede4582]

My christian mother told me today that the role of women that are single is to wait on men. Women are not supposed to earn more than the man. She said, the man determines if she works or she stays at home because women are made for men. Any man that does not provide is useless. Usually we think a woman that gets an education is a failure but my mum says according to the bible, the woman should not have an education and not have a job. her job is what the mans wants , even thou it is controlling women. She says the miserable life she lived as part of beign a failure is what a woman is

[@charlesstanger9183]

Alisa, this is a great topic, and can it be extended to girls being raise by single fathers and boys being raise by homosexual women and girls being raise by homosexual men.

[@debSaratoga]

I can’t find your Barbie review. Did you remove it?

[@MaxDaves]

As a real devoted single Christian man who does not date I can attest to the war on men. One of the negative impacts on men throughout our history is war. The impacts on the human condition via war creates vulnerabilities in men at scale. Yes we are geared towards protecting others but few Christian books have been published on the impacts of war on the family and on masculinity and the negative view of men within that framework. So on one hand we are desired to go fight and die for the state but not stand up against evils at home in our own nations. Now men are seen as a threat to the very societies they are asked to defend. Likewise there is an active spiritual and ideological war being waged against men to remove them from society leaving the society vulnerable to hostile actors and influence from within and externally. The church at large has very little encouragement for men. It so does not honor Godly masculinity nor provide means for them to thrive. In that way the left has influenced the church. As a single devoted follower of Christ, but for the grace of God I would despise both the secular and the religious sides of our culture. The war against the family is focused on removing men from the family and preventing the raising of them compounding the entropy of the entire problem. There is very little in our culture that lifts up men, encourages them or builds them up while creating an environment of discouragement, confusion and frustration. The entire economic system has been geared towards raising up women and diminishing and dominating over men. This is true in both the public and private spheres. Being in government work it is has increasingly pushed many of out while everything is being reframed in DEI / ESG woke policies which are actively hostile to men in general and Christian men in particularly. That plays out in economic opportunities and employment. All of this much more creates an alienation of men which is widespread and deep across the 7 sphere of societal influence. This leaves men highly vulnerable to evil influences. Likewise many women have been lured into thinking they have no need of marriage leaving men even more confused. What I call this is the Ghettofication of American culture and the spiritual inversion of society. It is essentially the mystery Babylon paradigm as seen throughout the Old Testament.

[@gracepilditch9388]

I learned so much. Brilliant interview and such a clear speaker. The Industrial Revolution and Darwin have a lot to answer for.

[@ofelianuno4752]

Mathew 18, what verse addresses someone sinning against you, please???

[@pinkrubix]

The reason that this book seems to be more controversial than her others is because the narrative of toxic masculinity and traditionally masculine men as horrible abusers and oppressors is the cornerstone of all of these other things that her book Love Thy Body talks about in the first place. If you take this away, these other narratives and arguments from the left are considerably weakened.

[@xbluesaintx]

There's alot of catagorical confusion out there. Men and women are created differently and for different purposes. Likewise they each have been blessed by God with different sets of privileges. Historically men have enjoyed most of the male privilege and women have enjoyed most of the female privilege. Now that Egalitarianism is dominant this is all very disordered. Ironically women have retained many of their female privileges while aquiring many of the male privileges. Conversely men have simply lost many of the male privileges.

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

Exactly!

[@benaiahwright937]

This sounds remarkably similar to marry Harrington's thesis. I wonder if they know each other?

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

Do women not share any fault in the break up of a marriage? Takes both the man and the woman to make the marriage, and very often most times it’s both that have shared a part in breaking it up. Women are human and just as capable of making mistakes.

[@lauralaforge558]

If the article were really in Washington Times, I mean Washington Times is not at all leftwing or even center paper.

[@bila8362]

Matthew 18 is definitely the way to approach someone who is sinning against you. The issue is when the person doesn't listen and you don't have a church community to help.

[@Malevolentguppy]

"Masculinity is under attack!" 51:18 what can the victims of this attack do better? This is what you get when most women study a man's issue. Nevermind genesis 3:16, or things like the white feather campaign...Men are under attack, but they need to better.

[@benaiahwright937]

I caught that too. They can't help it... it always comes down to how men can be doing better for THEM.

[@annaolokede4582]

My christian mother told me today that the role of women that are single is to wait on men. Women are not supposed to earn more than the man. She said, the man determines if she works or she stays at home because women are made for men. Any man that does not provide is useless. Usually we think a woman that gets an education is a failure but my mum says according to the bible, the woman should not have an education and not have a job. her job is what the mans wants , even thou it is controlling women. She says the miserable life she lived as part of beign a failure is what a woman is

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

I also caught that. They said nothing about how women have negatively contributed to this culture. The marriage problem was even penned on men. All women need to do that are having problems in their, listen to this and say, “see you’re the one at fault.” And not look at themselves.

[@rochellecaffee1417]

This “accusation” is an old “accusation” that asks, “Did God really say?” (That the man is given “leadership” of home, family church, and dominion on earth) it comes from a “prideful nature”, that exclaims, “i don’t have to obey anybody….Don’t tell ME what to do, or how to live!! I do what I Want To Do!!” This IS AN EXAMPLE of those who ARE REGENERATE and “dead in their trespasses and sin”. Dawkins, is one, and he is Angry at God, for being RIGHT, i think. The CRT movement can NOT AFFORD TO support men in leadership, because THIS. Is based on TRUTH. The Social justice people depend on your “emotional” response to THEIR “accusations” that they bring to inflame culture with “guilt”. “False guilt” that makes us bow to their lies and name-calling. THEY SAY, “YOU, CHRISTIANS don’t know what and how to show your “love” rightly, and tolerantly”. They keep trying to keep the argument, basically about THEIR IDEA OF LOVE, that THEY PROMOTE, AND AWAY FROM TRUTH. THEIR IDEA of “love” is a “twisted idea”. That;s why they use that emotion accusation so often.. they are attacking God because He IS LOVE, and HE IS TRUTH. THEY are attacking “love” because they insist that THEIR IDEA of ‘love” is the BASIS of ALL culture’s problems. But, A-HA, Biblical love has 4 kinds….and THEY NEED TO BE TAUGHT THAT God’s “love” is many faceted…not just 1 facet. This fact, may bring our gentle confrontation to a “realization” of THEIR BANKRUPTCY. SO, TRUTH AND LOVE…GOD IS BOTH, and Satan would twist both, to those who are “ignorant” of both, to say, “DID God really say?” It is an old “argument” with new focus points. Satan knows the Scriptures, and how to bring the ignorant into confusion. But in your evangelism, remember, that the problem is simple, and the attack is an “old” one. Truth and love….Satan tries to bring “love” against the Truth…..their version of love, which as i said, is LIMITED, is their tool for those who are ignorant of THE BIBLICAL TRUTH. They have a grate deal of trouble in TWISTING TRUTH…..it CAN NOT BE TWISTED….or it would not be TRUTH. SO, THEY DEFAULT TO THEIR accusations about “men are NOT “LOVING”, (THE WAY WE THINK THEY SHOULD BE). THAT’S THE “TWIST’. REMEMBER, there are 4 kinds of love, according to the TRUTH of GOD. KEEP IT SIMPLE. Ask yourself, “is this argument coming against God as TRUTH, or as LOVE? It will be 1 of the 2. If you come up with “UNEQUIVOCAL EVIDENCE, that supports what you know IS TRUE, to them, their next action will be to call you a name or take into the “weeds of details”, but you can go back to “principles” or Truth, again, and re-ask a question that will make them understand the “principle”, or at least, cause them to reconsider their accusation. That is an ultimate “help’ to this ‘lost” person. If we can encourage the “critical thinking’ about the false ideas, then we have done “what Jesus would do.” A seed is planted. A seed that GOD can work with. Drawing the “accuser” out, BECAUSE WE CARE, is a need, at the moment. But WE DO NOT NEED TO ACCEPT THEIR ABUSE….or “cast our pearls before swine.” We can “shake the dust off our sandals and move on”. In marriage, where our partner is NOT a believer, WE CAN BRING THE PEACE OF CHRIST TO THE MARRIAGE. We can also serve as though we serve CHRIST. What does our partner NEED? Can WE provide for the man’s emotional need to BE A MAN? THAT begins and happens IN THE BEDROOM. So we serve, there, “without fear”, as Peter told us in his instructions to wives and husbands.❤😊

[@astrongmama]

My husband preaches that the old Testament sacrifices were like paying the interest on a loan. Just enough to keep the loan out of foreclosure. Jesus's sacrifice paid off the principal. The debt is now paid in full.

[@cammobox]

That's not actually correct with regard to the OT sacrificial system. Similar to the Catholic church's idea of mortal/venial sins, the law had transgressions with differing levels of punishment. Anywhere in scripture you see "...shall surely die", "...be cut off from his people", "...be avenged", or other language of harsh punishment, you're likely encountering a sin with a capital sentence. There was never any sacrifice given for those sins. The sacrifices listed at the beginning of Leviticus specify what sins they cover. They only cover accidental or unintentional sins or issues of uncleanliness. Until Jesus, there was no sacrifice to save "sinners" (those who committed serious capital sins in 2nd temple Judaism). Aside from Jesus, there is no sacrifice in the writings of Moses for false worship, idolatry, sexual immorality, dishonoring parents, perjury, murder, etc. Yet even those lesser sins were referred to with the same terminology as capital sins. It was all called sin. Not all sins are equal. All sin damns us, but not all sin brings the same measure of guilt or the same (even eternal) consequences.

[@alfonsoreynosa8143]

Not so much, Lude, Crude and Rude but men have a need to be dangerous, yet disciplined. Jesus by no means was weak but self-restrained.

[@camlarson2813]

If it wasn't for testosterone the gospel would not have been preached around the world

[@Naomi_OB]

Amen!!

[@annaolokede4582]

My christian mother told me today that the role of women that are single is to wait on men. Women are not supposed to earn more than the man. She said, the man determines if she works or she stays at home because women are made for men. Any man that does not provide is useless. Usually we think a woman that gets an education is a failure but my mum says according to the bible, the woman should not have an education and not have a job. her job is what the mans wants , even thou it is controlling women. She says the miserable life she lived as part of beign a failure is what a woman is

[@camlarson2813]

Not sure I agree with your mom's view on women waiting for men as their role. Or earn less, I see nothing in scripture as those being guidelines for following Jesus,, at least no anywhere near the top! Maybe they should wait on the Lord for a man would be a better way to look at it?@@annaolokede4582

[@mikibernard746]

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[@annaolokede4582]

My christian mother told me today that the role of women that are single is to wait on men. Women are not supposed to earn more than the man. She said, the man determines if she works or she stays at home because women are made for men. Any man that does not provide is useless. Usually we think a woman that gets an education is a failure but my mum says according to the bible, the woman should not have an education and not have a job. her job is what the mans wants , even thou it is controlling women. She says the miserable life she lived as part of beign a failure is what a woman is

[@MultiSignlanguage]

Wow that’s sad. That’s not true. That kind of teaching is terrible interpretation of the Bible skewed by human selfishness, not led by love of God. I hope you don’t believe those things. All cults and extreme fundamental religions preach this stuff to harm and control women. 😢

[@leonnewo5746]

Oh wow. The evidence shows that the success of a marriage depends on man and man can fix their marriages by choice.

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

But she never pointed to the woman’s role in the break up of a marriage.

[@pianogal853]

I'm curious whether Mormons were included in "evangelicals" 🤔

[@justaregularguy115]

Why would Godly academics (looking to get accurate information about True Christian statistics), conflate a cult like Mormonism within the "evangelical" context? That makes zero sense.

[@christistruth705]

I would hope not considering they aren’t Christians.

[@leonnewo5746]

Yay God

[@leonnewo5746]

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[@rochellecaffee1417]

We, Christians, who are involved in teaching, need to find ways of teaching boys, without “drugging” them with Ritalin because they are naturally busier than girls, and treat them according to their abilities and development abilities to learn. Girls are learning well, because the classroom is geared toward what causes girls to succeed. Sitting quietly and paying attention at a lengthy amount of time is a girl’s forte when it comes to learning. Boys, not so much. Because of this difference, boys START OUT, feeling like “failures” because they are criticized out of the gate. Prostitution and pornography could hampered greatly if in Christian marriage women understood and appreciated men’s physical needs and that THAT is no a negative thing, bu natural for men… i harp a lot on learning how to “receive’ from a husband his “gift “ of his physical affection. God IS A giver of life, and the bride of Christ IS the “receiver”. Our marriages ARE a replica of that understanding. Often, though, wives “lead” by having “expectations “ that put the “wife” in charge. Not God’s way. Study Genesis 1, 2, 3 and Ephesians 5, and Peter 3. We, women, because we are more intuitive have a better understanding of how we, women can help this situation in marriage , inthe sexual situation on the marriage bed. Great healing can happen when we women purpose to step back from expectations and let our husbands lead where they feel like they ARE ACCEPTED AS MEN. We have healing to offer in the bedroom. When a MAN feels accepted for being a MAN, HE WILL TAKE CHARGE without our leading as women. Self-control in NOT “TAKING CHARGE” and NOT MAKING ALL THE RULES in the marriage or household will give him opportunities to SHINE. Stepping aside, and encouragement in the bedroom is an easy and natural solution, that God supports, too. God bless you Alisa and Nancy.❤ More men’s Bible studies where men can congregate together and enjoy male friendship. This will give the mature men opportunities to speak into the lives of those who are more needy. Being asked to go out to coffee, or to a game, or any way that. Mature men might have a chance to speak into the lives of other men. Men NEED other men. Wives will see a change IF. They will stop EXPECTING men to “understand” them. WE women ARE the “Understanders”. We have more power than we realize as women, by DOING less. We will have to give up some “power” that we are used to having.

[@dannil9878]

Women watch almost as much as porn as men do. How/why did boys and men succceed academically before? Busyness wasn’t a problem before?

[@dannysullivan3951]

Eeek

[@9jmorrison]

At 66 years old, I have been passed over for hires and promotion due to being a white, male, Christian. My situation was opined by Justice Clarence Thomas. Merit is what matters, and the rights of all respected, and do all things as to the Lord Jesus. The male female debate is demonic and decisive, marriage is a body or right and left, one side needs dominance, but to lose a side is harmful to the whole.

[@MsQ275]

playing the victim is not masculine. try again ❤

[@GaylaKenney-i2f]

@@MsQ275yes a woman that doesn’t take responsibility.

[@nicholasnelson6876]

Nancy Pearcy doesn't understand evolution and to my knowledge isn't a legitimate scientist so I'll take what she says with a grain of salt. Lol

[@dannil9878]

Is this a parody channel?😂

[@chardo24]

Today, the Biblical issue of divorce and remarriage is not an issue for American evangelical leaders and voters as opposed to the issue of abortion to which the Bible remains silent about it.

[@bevp7838]

The Bible doesn’t use the word, but it definitely speaks about proper care for children.

[@christistruth705]

The Bible doesn’t use the word abortion but it definitely speaks to the sacrificing of children. Leviticus 18:21. Tertullian spoke of abortion in the 2nd century. Sacrificing children either from the womb or out of the womb has been a practice for most of humanity.

[@chardo24]

@@christistruth705 if you read Tertullian I don't know why anybody wants to read him.. Tertullian said that women are evil because they are the ones keeping this evil world going by having children. It makes me wonder if he came out of a woman.

[@chardo24]

@@bevp7838 Or take divorce-about which the Bible speaks volumes, though it is silent on abortion-this was a major issue in the minds of evangelicals in the 1950s-1970s, but that changed with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980, and clearly the elec-tion of Donald Trump in 2016 underlines that within a generation divorce and remarriage have become non-issues to evangelical leaders and voters

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Biblical masculinity approved by Yahweh/Jesus: Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. LOL

[@justaregularguy115]

LOL indeed. Cherry picking scriptures out of context is such a childish cliche that exposes your foolish cynicism. Jesus was the ultimate example of masculinity (self-sacrificial, love...wise leader, gentle with women and children, a role model for men, obedient to the authority of God). You have no idea how to exegete the Bible.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

@@justaregularguy115 Jesus was god before and god after and he only suffered for THREE MEASLY DAYS. Jesus was god on Friday Evening and god on Sunday Morning and suffered for MEASLY 36 HOURS. And Xtians CLAIM this 36 HOURS of suffering was SO LARGE that it PAID FOR ALL THE SINS OF ALL Xtian PEOPLE OF ALL TIME. And who decided that this was "PAYMENT" ... well God = Yahweh/Jesus HiMSELF !!!! LOL

[@brandi5326]

If you read scripture properly or in context you would understand that this was to discourage a man from sleeping with a woman that wasn't his wife because if he did he had to pay the bride price for her and marry her so that she wouldn't be dishonored, discarded, and left without protection... Like guys do today. You were saying?

[@sanjeevgig8918]

@@brandi5326 Yeah, yeah, ALL the immoral verses can be explained away by shouting "context." This does NOT discourage sleeping around - it says you can r-@-p-e and the then marry. Yahweh had no problem simply stating Do Not Mix Fabrics ... but he he had go a convoluted thing for sleeping around. LOL REAL Biblical marriage is between one man and one or MORE women (Esau, Jacob, Elkanah, David, Solomon), or his DAUGHTER (Lot), or his SLAVE GIRL (Numbers 31:17), or his CONCUBINE (Abram, Rehoboam), or his R=A=P=E victim (Deuteronomy 22:28-29). LOL

[@brandi5326]

@@sanjeevgig8918 Who the heck wants to rape a woman and then marry her? You're not thinking clearly. You wanna rape her because you don't want the responsibility of caring for her. You want to rape her to objectify. You want to rape her to because you're selfish and evil. So the law that if you are caught you will be responsible is a protection for the woman, and a deterrant for the man. You will rethink acting on a behavior that has unpleasant consequences. Again you are not thinking clearly. The bible is not one big giant manual for how to do things properly. Its the story of how humans sin and fail and create evil and suffering and only God can redeem it. You take things that feel incriminating to you and rip it out of context and then stand up and shout, Aha the bible is immoral! The bible is a portrait of immoral people and a God who is willing to endure vessels of wrath so that some would come to the knowledge that what is wrong with this place is us (that includes you) and only he can fix it. You get mad about what you feel are injustices in people's behavior and then you get mad when God does something about it and pronounces justice. You don't understand anything about the law or the purpose of it. It was to bring men to the end of themselves to recognize their depraved states. You sit in judgement of God's word and yet if I were to judge you by your own standards you would fail and be condemned. If you really care about whether this is God's word or not then read it. Read through the entire thing asking God to reveal himself and his truth to you. Otherwise go and find something to believe in and to build up instead of trying to tear down something that you cannot destroy. The gates of hell will not prevail against God and His kingdom. Stop striving against Him.