The Tragedy Of 3D TV

I'm a bit late to the party. 3D TV. What happened. Why. Who. How. Is.
All questions I intend on vaguely answering today on Tyler's Fun Land.
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[@knowledgehusk]

I've had many people ask about the outro song, and where it can be found. It can't be found. Spooky I know

[@Turtle_God]

this is life-ruining information

[@Ugnaski]

Can you upload the thing somewhere then? It's pretty lit.

[@AC3handle]

sounds like something from Mikumiku.

[@MrThatguyuknow]

Never change, Tyler

[@radioactium]

please dear god I need this

[@TheJaminator128]

I remember being a kid and thinking once I'm a rich adult the first thing I'd buy would be an HD 3D TV lol.

[@Jaxv3r]

@@Henry-zm9qg how to get rich in one easy step. 1. buy 3D TV 2.cheat code activated: +1000000 money.

[@11ablechandler]

ive always wanted one as a kid too, now that im old enough to afford one, They dont make them, I really wish it was still a thing lol.

[@TheCentristChad]

@@11ablechandler just waste your money on an 8k TV. Youll be less disappointed

[@steveholbrom8424]

I'm in my early thirties and this comment made me feel old.

[@justminibanana9128]

I actually had one, was pretty cool... if you could find a show that supported it and your glasses where charged.

[@Jorqell]

Let's call this The Glasses Effect: every time a product requires the user to wear glasses, it fails with the general public.

[@jimmilton6644]

welding

[@LegoDork]

@@jimmilton6644 That's a bit different.

[@Ozzianman]

The 3DS did 3D right, by making it glasses free and the intensity adjustable. I still play on my 3DS and keep the 3D on. Edit: Welp, the video actually mentioned the 3DS.

[@Emi4201]

@@jimmilton6644 lmfao

[@etrs]

Literally me

[@show-me-retro]

I really embraced 3D technology on TVs and still enjoy it to this day

[@danieldaniels7571]

Me too. The 4K passive 3D TVs like mine solved most of the problems described here. Still always looking for more 3D Blu-rays. I have around a hundred.

[@Stonemonkie1]

Me three, got passive TV and active projector. Also always on the lookout for 3D blurays. Liked it for gaming too but got into VR now.

[@joshuafisette7255]

I bought a 3D tv 10 or so years ago thinking that the picture while watching hockey would be better. But I have tons of movies. This past November my tv died. So where am I supposed to get another?? 🤦🏽

[@Stonemonkie1]

@@joshuafisette7255 2nd hand but who knows how long till that might die, projector, 3d content can be watched in VR.

[@whitesapphire5865]

@@joshuafisette7255 I just bought a used Samsung Series 5 - 3D TV, two days ago! I didn't know it was 3D when I bought it, and the guy I bought it from made no mention of it. Sadly, it didn't come with glasses, so it probably never will see any use for 3D. Apparently, it would have used "active" glasses. It's a pity really, because it has low usage hours. I bought it just because I needed a second set.

[@generalZee]

I'm watching this on a passive 3d TV I bought in 2011. It's a great tv, and only cost me $1000. It's a bummer that 3d didn't catch on, especially in gaming because some of the games I played in 3d were amazing. Portal 2 in 3d was one of my favorite gaming experiences ever. But I know the main reason it died was that a fair number of people get instant headaches from the illusion, and will do anything to avoid it.

[@arthas640]

It's a bit ironic since the people who like high definition usually are very sensitive to visual changes and have good eyesight, but those same people are the most sensitive to the 3D effects such as the flickering and blur and motion sickness.

[@HunterL850]

Bro go play Uncharted 3 in 3D if you haven’t already! Best 3D game I’ve ever played.

[@electronron1]

I got mine on clearance for $500.00 and I like it but my wife doesn't like 3D movies even at the theater.

[@bappo456]

I used to play with the Nvidia 3D glasses on an Acer 3D 120hz monitor. That setup was insane for 2008, it was fairly good 3D but relied on game developers to make it work properly. I think my favorite and best 3D game experiences before VR were with the Dead Space series on the PC with Nvidia 3D, that feature just somehow natively worked so well with Dead Space. Most other games worked very well too, I still have the 3D kit but the Acer monitor bit the dust years ago.

[@combatwombat594]

Only cost you $1,000? Bud I bought a 50in 4K smart TV a couple years ago for $300 brand new lol

[@CocoHutzpah]

3D stuff at amusement parks was always fun because it was short and designed around it. I watched the Avengers in 3D and found it annoying after 20 minutes or so. I forgot 3D TVs were a thing. If only we got the 3D Weather Channel.

[@PiousMoltar]

To be fair, that movie wasn't filmed in 3D, it was just faked. I also saw that movie in 3D, wasn't impressed, and now I feel like I was cheated out of my money. But I am disappointed 3D TVs and movies have faded into obscurity. Generally I'm a big fan.

[@scaryhobbit211]

3D designed for the original IMAX screens found at amusement parks, zoos, etc. was god-tier. And really, those old-school IMAX's are far superior to the commercialized AMC Theaters crap we have now. Seriously, when AMC bought my town's theater they just took the largest screen - which is just otherwise a standard cinema screen but enlarged for marquee blockbusters - and slapped the IMAX logo on it.

[@boiledelephant]

@@scaryhobbit211Valid distinction. I can still remember every time I've been to an IMAX, and some of them were decades ago. It's an amazing experience. Regular 3D cinema really isn't.

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

@@boiledelephant I remember watching a movie on a proper IMAX in Denver when I was younger. It was fantastic.

[@SH2K9]

Funny you mention that - back at Disney World, circa late 90s, one of their 3D experiences was "Honey I shrunk the Audience" It also had the tech like the used for Alien Encounter and the Stitch Experience and I remember it being DOPE AF. Basically to add to your point - it works for specific venues offering a unique experience, with it being in 3D as only PART of that. Even they know if it's just 3D it'll get old and boring so they add other stuff to it..

[@blauw67]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that KZbin has 3D video capabilities, and can easily switch between different modes like interlaced or red-blue 3D

[@asdfg4966]

Wait what how??

[@nasserowainat]

@@asdfg4966 you add a line to the description if you uploaded the video Don't know about if you weren't the uploader

[@Keepcalmandcupcakes]

Yeah, you even used to be able to search it as a tag (another feature KZbin removed for stupid reasons). One of my favorite things to do with my 3ds when I was younger was watching 3d KZbin. I remember my favorite videos at that time were cartoon clips with 3d post-processing or gameplay footage recorded using Dolphin's 3d camera mode.

[@marsilies]

@@asdfg4966 There used to be a checkbox when uploading 3D content. You can still find some content if you search for SBS (Side-by-side 3D).

[@jamesrosewell9081]

@@marsilies damn that's interesting

[@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat]

I actually really enjoy 3D. My friend used to have a 3D TV with the chargeable glasses and it was really fun to watch. Avatar was by far the best in 3D!

[@richardwicks4190]

Yeah, but don't you think the plot of Avatar was pretty thin? It really is just Pocahontas in space.

[@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat]

@@richardwicks4190 I agree the plot was simplistic and can even be compared to other common stories told just taking place on a different planet, but the visual masterpiece of it all was incredible if you saw it in 3D in the theater when it first came out. It was way ahead of its time and has an amazing orchestral soundtrack that I love to this day.

[@richardwicks4190]

@@mspears_bobobuddytheseniorcat The visuals were a gimmick. It was basically a cartoon made for adults, or young adults. I saw it in 3D, that was part of the gimmick. It looked amazing, but years later, it's unwatchable on a television, and the plot is just agonizing to me, of course. RedLetterMedia made a joke that films today are basically rollercoaster rides or funhouses, and Martin Scorsese said basically the same thing. Once you experience that a few times, the experience wears off pretty quickly. Imagine being on a roller coaster for 2 hours. That was Avatar for me. I find I have no desire to go on the ride again, even if it was 3D.

[@WiiUniverse]

I bought a 3D TV with active glasses (not chargeable they just use a coin battery) earlier this year and I actually really like it. I bought a PS3 and some 3D blu rays and it makes action type movies a lot more exciting

[@MrHack4never]

5:21 a slight correction: Cinemas tend to use dual projectors in 3D setups, making the line change trick unnecessary , since both images are shown at the same time without issue

[@HunterL850]

Sony’s projector which started to be a standard between 09-13 actually had a dual lens setup to help bring down the cost to cinema owners.

[@ryans413]

They use one projector with a dual lens setup where one lens is reflected of a mirror and combined with the other image on screen then the glasses put this images together. If you watch the film without the glasses it blurry but you can see there’s two images of you cover you left eye the right side of the screen comes into focus and same if you cover your right eye all the glasses do is combine both images into one. The 3D projectors have to be brighter though or else wearing the passive glasses would make the image too dark because you are looking through a filter on the glasses.

[@ryans413]

@Steve D yes but most still use one cause it’s cheaper

[@monochr0m]

@@ryans413 That is not at all how it works, it has nothing to do with "left" and "right", the projection is polarized and the glasses use different polarizations in each lense

[@pummisher1186]

The problem with 3D glasses is there's people who already wear glasses. So the 3D glasses have to be set on the tip of their nose for it to work. It really sucked.

[@marsilies]

I bought my wife a set of clip-on, flip-down 3d filters for her glasses, so she doesn't have to deal with this. I just have to remind her to bring them if we go see a movie in 3D in theaters.

[@TofumanFC3S]

I wear glasses and you just have to choose the size that fits. Or the clip ons as mentioned above

[@Gameprojordan]

It would make my nose hurt plus the double lense would give me a headache

[@ladislavzima8382]

As others mentioned, passive 3D is just a filter, you can clip on your glasses.

[@Cobalt985]

@@marsilies Yes, that would work in a theater, but not a home TV. The home TVs require active glasses, would be more complicated than polarized clip-ons.

[@mastershadowreaper]

the 3Ds absolutely blew my mind when I was in middle school. I actually thought the 3D technology they used was awesome and actually worked great. miss those goofy days

[@BlueSparxLPs]

Especially the New 3DS XL, honestly. Greatly improved the 3D experience and I thought the way it was used to add depth rather than popout was very helpful as a utility in gameplay as someone who struggles to perceive depth correctly on a flat image.

[@arthas640]

i was the polar opposite even as a kid. It's almost always looked worse than 2D unless the filmmakers sink a ton of money into being 3D, but since they were making methods to easily convert 2D to 3D without all that cost the filmmakers had little incentive to do so outside of AAA titles like Avatar. Add that to the fact that many people get headaches regardless of the quality, get sick of the effect quickly, or suffer the inherent added eye strain and it's not hard to see why it would never be anything but a gimmick or niche service. I was one of those weirdos who saw Avatar in theaters multiple times and on my second viewing I noticed many of the people taking off their glasses periodically because they were bothered by the effect. If people would pay extra and still rather watch a darker blurrier version of the greatest 3D film of all time then lower quality products in the home market would likely die as well. The same happened with the 3Ds, I saw the hype and thought about getting one but then heard all my friends say they were turning the setting off and their parents were pissed they paid extra for something their kids got sick of quickly. I feel the same way about 4K, UHD, and 8K too, there are just too many inherent flaws like high price, slower download speeds, more data demands, and all for only a marginal increase in quality. Anything after 2D 1080p is so hard to notice that people arent likely to care much. We're already starting to hit a wall where the marginal increase in perceived quality form 1080p to 4K isnt worth the slow downloads, streaming issues, and higher data costs and the quadrupling of all those problems from 4K to 8K is even worse.

[@debleb166]

The new 3ds 3D was actually pretty good. To be honest I think video games are one of the best applications for 3D video. It's sometimes very useful to be able to judge depth accurately in a game.

[@javierortiz82]

I remember that E3 when the 3DS was announced, Nintendo showed their glasses-free 3d glasses and an hour later sony was in their ps3 event trying to sell you 3d tvs, and every time a trailer dropped people were told to put their glasses on and off all the time, Nintendo dated the 3d tv experience in a matter of an hour, it was crazy. I loved my 3ds, playing with 3d enabled was great in the games where the devs actually cared about a good implementation, like Super Mario 3D land and Kid Icarus Uprising, but most of the time the devs didn't want to invest on it. Oh, Metal Gear Solid 3D was pretty good as well, even with it's choppy framerate.

[@jckorn9148]

I accidently bought tickets to see The Last Airbender in 3D. And somehow, the 3D was inverted. What was suppose to be close, was far, and visa versa. I must had slaughtered millions in another life to suffer such a fate.

[@BinglesP]

Mega Man char pfp nice

[@Maisonikkokufan]

Sadly 3D TVs, and all 3D films in general, never worked for me because I'm stereoblind. Kid me was so disappointed when I realised I wasn't seeing, and was not able to see, what people were able to see with 3D films

[@meee_5155]

I did not know that was a thing until I just looked it up. Is it a similar experience to having one eye closed or covered?

[@Maisonikkokufan]

@@meee_5155 yeah I'd describe it like that, except both my eyes are working and can see. The official sciency explanation is that my eyes don't work together really well, so I see a lot more out of my left eye than my right. But I can switch which eye I see out of whenever I want

[@HAWXLEADER]

@@Maisonikkokufan I can do that too and don't see that 3D effect, VR still works great though.

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

​@@Maisonikkokufan For what it's worth, you probably get more out of flat screen displays than we do. Our eyes are still trying to combine what each eye sees as if it were 3d, but when they're both seeing the exact same thing, despite the distance between them? And that thing is simulating a 3d environment on a 2d plane? It actually gives us less useful information about distances than just closing one eye. It immediately creates barriers to immersion, and it adds an extra layer of difficulty to accurately judging jumps and range in gaming.

[@ariabramovsky1235]

did you ever try using a 3ds? I know people who are steroblind who can see the effect.

[@Lambzalot]

I feel like AR could bring back 3d tech in a whole new way.

[@mattolinallc8888]

Agree. Ar can may be also a motion and 3D.

[@Lambzalot]

@@mattolinallc8888 true, I can't wait till AR sports become a thing

[@biitchpuddinnn]

3D movies are amazing to watch in social VR

[@emeraldfinder5]

I doubt AR will go that far, it seems like it’d also be too much of a hassle to be regularly used

[@PonkeyPoe]

@@emeraldfinder5 AR, maybe. But I use VR daily, and while the games are nice that's far from its only use. Just wish Facebook would fuck off from the scene.

[@tadness121]

I've never been able to see 3D due to having basically no central vision in one eye due to severe scarring as a newborn, so the whole 3D/VR fad just seems so alien to me. I remember buying one of those cyan/blue glasses 3D books at Space Center Houston and being absolutely heartbroken that I couldn't see it right. I sat in my room staring at it for ages trying to get it to work. I went with my parents & friends to a 3D movie at some sort of science/history museum and couldn't see it either. I bought a 3DS and eventually a New™ 3DS and neither of those worked too. Needless to say, I'm not holding my breath for VR. The only type of "3D" I've been able to legitimately see are those "split-depth 3D" GIFs that used to be all over Imgur and stuff years ago. Granted, I don't know if that's "true" 3D, but like, it feels 3D to me, if that makes any sense.

[@Dommbuscus]

RIP

[@arousedyoda]

I worked for a 3D pay-per-view streaming service back in 2013-2014, and this brings back so many bad memories... I believe we were already one of the last ones (if not THE last one) standing by then, and the bosses thought that was a good thing because we'd pick up all the content the other services had abandoned along the way. Oh man. I can't begin to tell you how much of a financial disaster that was. Our service was available across the entire North American continent, yet we probably had about as many daily rentals as the average Blockbuster location (and I'm talking about the 2013 Blockbuster, too). I saw the writing on the wall and skedaddled. They went out of business about a year and a half later.

[@PartnershipsForYou]

That is a fantastic story, but I have a question, why are you aroused?

[@WoddCar]

My tv has a 3D option, I’ve never used it, the people before me who had it probably never used it, and I only discovered the option last month. That’s how actually forgettable it is

[@DDRWakaLaka]

wow thats cringe

[@DDRWakaLaka]

like why on earth would you do this buy some cheapo 4k tcl for less which will look better

[@mikemcmullen5006]

@@DDRWakaLaka sounds like he bought it used or got it from a friend. I see 3d TV's on Facebook marketplace and they go for the same price as a regular tv. When you get above 48" the prices jump too high to warrant buying one new, especially for 4k, and it's not like people break tvs. Buddy of mine got one that was like 80" and covered his entire wall for free, he just had to pay $200 for a light bulb (it was a projector TV, lcd didn't get that big and led was still new) and it works perfectly. Rich people he bought it from paid like 9k for it

[@DDRWakaLaka]

@@mikemcmullen5006 cool, no warranty, no paper trail, and ignores people who don't live next to bougie idiots

[@DDRWakaLaka]

@@mikemcmullen5006 also damn lmao rear projection TVs are legitimately disgusting and also almost free buy the crappy TCL off Amazon, jesus christ lmfao

[@masterbspace]

I’m one of the few who actually really liked the 3D stuff, and got several 3D blu rays. I have updated my main screen since then of course, but I kept the 3D one in my bedroom as a backup when I want to experience it again.

[@FireRayquaza24]

I have one in my basement that my parents got rid of while downsizing. I love to watch those movies now and then and the TV has good picture when I’m not using it. Win-Win for me

[@Hoschie-ww7io]

I still love my 4K OLED 3D TV. The effect is way better than in the movies and because of OLED the quality is amazing. I don’t care for 3D in the movies, but I want 3D for home use :))

[@calibomber209]

3d tvs will be sought after in 5 years. I love mine, it made some movies an experience.

[@LaskyLabs]

When I got a VR headset I got back into 3D movies. Really forgot how much fun they were.

[@Soccercrazyigboman]

You can watch 3d movies in VR set?

[@LaskyLabs]

@@Soccercrazyigboman yes, virtual desktop has options for it, as well as big screen VR. Absolutely worth it if you can track down some rips. Big screen vr also has 3d movies for rent (not many though sadly.)

[@TheScubapro69]

I’m collecting as many 3D Blu Ray’s as I can. Rip them with Makemkv, which is free and play them on my home server on my quest 3.

[@kubrickenigma7977]

I really liked the 3D craze; it added something different to the film going experience. I remember Prometheus and UP were phenomenal in 3D. Would like to get second-hand 3D TV (Sony). I find 3D blue rays in the at the second-hand shot for very low prices, and still find them wicked expensive at retail shops.

[@TheAnon03]

The first known 3d film was all the way back in 1922. 3D the technology that's almost 100 years old but still considered innovative for some reason.

[@stevonico]

Because technology

[@Snufkin224]

If Elon musk can invent the tunnel (but worse), "3D" can also be reinvented.

[@sergiowinter5383]

@@stevonico Because marketing*

[@CTimmerman]

I remember a black and white cowboy movie where the barrel came right at ya at a fair late 1980s or early 1990. Those theme park movies are the best. Last 3D movie i watched was Infinity war and i only remember the 2 seconds of Strange giving the time stone to Thanos.

[@marsilies]

There have been improvements to 3D movies since then. A major issue with early 3D movies was keeping both eyes in sync, as they were often using two projectors showing two separate film reels. If the sync goes off it's head-ache inducing. Later films put both eyes on one strip of film, helping sync at the cost of resolution. There were also issues making sure each view was properly focused, lenses clean, etc. And film judder didn't help. Modern digital cameras and projectors make the 3D cleaner and smoother. Also, RealD and others started using circular polarization instead of linear polarization in the 2000s, which helped with ghosting and viewing angles. So 3D itself wasn't the innovation, but the ability to pack a 3D viewing mode into a home TV was, along with smaller innovations along the way making for an overall better 3D filming and viewing experience.

[@khalilpontikes7293]

Honestly I loved the 3D feature of thr 3DS, it was the main reason I wanted one when I was a kid. I've always liked 3D and honestly I preferred playing games in 3D on the 3DS, like you said it added more immersion and also it literally gives more depth making it easy to play a lot of the games. For Dead or Alive 4 on the 3DS, you do a lot of side stepping in that game and because of the angle of the games camera it's easier to play it in 3D imo. I still have the original 3DS and it still works fine.

[@nujuat]

Yeah, same. I always played 3ds with 3d on. If nothing else, it smooths out the image do it doesn't look as awful on the small screen. I also had a passive 3d monitor and played a bunch of stuff on it like half life 2, but eventually nothing supported it anymore. I guess vr now takes over that part of gaming.

[@hyperfixatedd]

Same man Won't ever want to play my Kid Icarus Uprising in 2d lol

[@khalilpontikes7293]

@@hyperfixatedd I loved Kid Icarus, surprised they never made a sequel

[@hyperfixatedd]

@@khalilpontikes7293 any day now! Hehe

[@jlbeeen]

I often find myself looking for the 3D slider (or a stylus) on the Switch then being sad. I used it in Animal Crossing all the time. I think the only game I didn't use 3D with was Mario Kart because 3D + motion controls was not going to work. Even pixelated games like Kirby's Adventure and Cave Story looked good in 3D and helped me tell apart what was the background art vs what were the things I had to interact with.

[@Antonjlavey]

I'm watching this on a 3D TV I still love 3D games. I hope it will come back...

[@kettusnuhveli341]

Those Hatsune Miku rhymes be busting!

[@akiradkcn]

Song name plz

[@FelipeJaquez]

I listened to this video on my 4D radio!

[@alw2839]

WOW! I bet you listen to future broadcasts all the time!

[@clonemarine1]

My biggest issue with 3D has always been the head-aches. I watched a few 3D movies in theater back around 2013, and I got a head-ache every time. The first couple go-a rounds I figured maybe I just hadn't been drinking enough water. But then I started to notice the pattern, and I made the decision to opt out of any 3D movies in the future. The spectacle of 3D was fun, but it stopped being enjoyable when I realized it was giving me a hangover that ruined the rest of my day...

[@jajabinx35]

Same here. But out of curiosity, do you suffer travel motion sickness?

[@clonemarine1]

@@jajabinx35 No, nothing like that. Just something about 3D media specifically puts a strain on my eyes.

[@danielhayes3607]

I suffer from travel sickness and feel the same from 3d and VR. Ruins your day

[@HunterL850]

I’ve heard many people complain about it but never experienced it. Do you happen to remember what films you saw? I’m just wondering if it was a bad 3D film that had ghosting artifacts.

[@clonemarine1]

@@HunterL850 The only film I remember the title of was Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I remember that one in particular because I saw it with a bunch of friends, and I was having a great time, but then I got the headache which made the rest of the day challenging to enjoy. You may very well be correct, I'm no expert on the subject. I just remember being very put-off by 3D films.

[@JonHuhnMedical]

I'm perfectly happy watching anything in HD on a 50" screen. At this point what's really lacking is content worth watching.

[@zebunker]

Don't watch content. Watch actual movies.

[@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores]

Whenever I saw 3D TVs being demonstrated in a store, they always showed sporting events that were shot from a hundred or more feet away. From that distance there is not much difference between 2D and 3D perception. Those demonstrations did not help sell the 3D TVs.

[@Matthew_Murray]

I still remember being blown away by Ocarina of Time on 3DS. I felt like I could put my hand through the screen and touch the game.

[@hyperfixatedd]

I really fucking miss the days of going to school carrying my little blue 3DS and showing it to people Getting to see their reactions was insane Good times

[@Gabriel_Cook]

I'm playing it right now, though not for the 1st time.

[@renakunisaki]

Even without the 3D, it looks a thousand times prettier than the original.

[@aaronsmith6632]

Our neighbor has a 3D TV and it's freaking epic. I loved Avatar in 3D. Really disappointing this technology never took off

[@lordzed83]

I got best 3d oled ever made. 3d got killed by cheap 3d displays if anything. Sadly its last tv id own cause where can one move from 3d 4k oled ??

[@carloscases96]

@@lordzed83 thats the LG C6 from 2016 right?

[@electronron1]

My wife bought Avatar but sadly on DVD not even Blu-ray let alone 3D and using the simulated 3D feature will never do justice to any movie.

[@danieldaniels7571]

@@lordzed83 I want one of those so bad. I have a nice 4K passive 3D Sony, and it’s also really impressive, but doesn’t offer the contrast and true blacks an OLED would.

[@lordzed83]

@@carloscases96 Yup last 3d year

[@zacjdavis]

I’m a 3D fan and am sad, because 3D actually started to get good when 4K rolled around. There were sets around 2014-16 which were 4K passive, notably LG, which had the comfort of passive and 1080p resolution to each eye. It’s great, but everyone had already written off 3D by then. Now I’m one of the people stranded on a 4K 3D tv from 2016 buying 3D Blu-rays

[@jlbeeen]

My dad has the same one. It's so much better than the active ones. But the movies are so expensive, especially as were I am, you can get HD movies for free at the library, but they never get 3D ones in. I think the most "recent" movie we got in 3D was Zootopia, so it's really been a while.

[@HunterL850]

Jealous! I didn’t know they even made those. That was the only minor issue with 3D for me was whenever you turned on 3D it dropped to 720p and the image was a bit darker. Now with OLEDs, local dimming, expanded color gamut’s, and 4K/8K resolution its a shame that they don’t put 3D functionality in. At least for us 3D fans.

[@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker]

Interesting fact (to me, anyway) The first ever "film", as in a photographed moving image, was created 170 years ago. And it was in 3D.

[@Lobstro]

The issue with 3D media is that it goes against the basic purpose of media in general. Directors, animators, and cinematographers spend months and even years carefully planning what is going to appear in the frame and be the focus for the audience. It's a delicate art of guiding the eye around the frame to tell a story or convey an emotion. The audience can sit back and have information be thrown at them while they passively observe. On the other hand, 3D media works best when it gives the viewer time and space to freely look around on their own and discover things. The viewer has to be active to get the best experience, and the story has to take a backseat. Most viewers don't want to be active when viewing media, and most popular movies are not made to indulge this style. Videogames come a lot closer to matching this style, but they have expanded on this in the form of VR instead of 3D screens, and while VR works for some games, I don't' think it would work with movies at all. When was the last time you heard about a movie made for VR? The technology will never be good enough for 3D movies. Even if we had screens that functioned like windows that could give different perspectives based on the viewing angle, or even if we developed fully functional Star Trek holodecks that you could walk into without needing to wear any peripherals, it still would be inferior to the flat screen for viewing media.

[@dominicstocker5144]

Never had that feeling while watching 3D movies, tho, iirc

[@shtboxgarage]

There are movies made for vr.... they’re just usually explicit

[@StreakyBaconMan]

While I agree that current 3D media sucks, I don't necessarily think that it'd be impossible or the technology would never be good enough for 3D movies even if we're not all that close to making it good yet. If you were to for example abandon the idea of a single screen being used for the 3D media and instead project an image to each persons eyes watching the movie individually, you could ensure that they all see exactly the same thing when they view the 3D media. There would be no viewing angle issues because each eye gets the same image sent to it regardless of angle , and it wouldn't require you to walk around or move or anything and the director can be certain that everybody is having the viewing experience they intended for them to have. It'd be just like 2D media, except you can see the depth of the scenes.

[@sapcavax7806]

I agree when it comes to fiction, but the documentary The Cave of forgotten dreams by Werner Herzog in 3D was one of the most beautiful experiences I had in a movie theater. I rewatched it on TV some time ago and enjoyed it, but in big screen 3D was really something else. I remember leaving the theater thinking "I never imagined something like this could be done with 3D, maybe there is future for non blockbuster movies in a 3D era". I guess it takes an absolute madman like Herzog to make it work

[@petermerchant4439]

@@dominicstocker5144 It can depend. The first 3D movie I ever saw was in an IMAX theater--Wings of Courage. It had to do with a 1920s-era mail carrier who crashes in the Andes. So about the time he crashes, we have a shot of a woman's legs with fruit lying on the floor and a piece of paper. The camera slowly pans up to reveal the pilot's distressed wife, having just learned that her husband is missing. Powerful scene, well shot, but as I was watching it, I kept wanting to look up. Like pushing the camera--"Come on, come on, we get it, we're at her waist, hurry up!"

[@scienceface8884]

The only issue I have with 3d is if ANYTHING is slightly off, even just the wrong seat in a theater, then I just get 2 separate images that don't blend into 3d, which is just inherently inferior to 2d. I've had nothing but good experiences with VR, though.

[@1337GameDev]

This has been my experience going to every 3d movie in a theatre. And then if youre with others who have slightly more central seats, you have to suffer through the film and hope you dont get a headache.

[@16bitHi5]

I tried watching a 3d movie on psvr and the black levels looked horrible because its not oled. Also you couldn't push the 3d effect to be extreme enough for me. I hope that can be fixed later.

[@KokoroKatsura]

A N I M E N I M E

[@CodeBonYT]

IMO active 3d was the only way to go and theaters used passive. I have A/B tested several movies 4k vs 3d and nearly always prefer 3d. Passengers is reference quality in both formats and 3d is much more immersive.

[@MakeMagic]

10:46 "The tragic part is that *with* the glasses, you could have used a 4k display to deliver full rez passive 3D to each eye..." That's exactly what LG did in 2016. I still have my 65 inch curved C6 oled from that year. It is probably the best consumer 3DTV ever made. I have a newer 2021 oled too but couldn't bring myself to sell the C6 as its just too good for 3D so I keep it around.

[@my3dviews]

I have a LG OLED 4k 3dTV and a Sony 4K 3d TV. Both passive 3d and 65". Plus I use a Sony 4k3d 55" as my computer monitor. Got a great deal on that one used.

[@MGlBlaze]

The general 3D media interest died JUST before the technology for it finally got good. It was pushed to the consumer market too soon - consumer display resolutions weren't quite good enough yet.

[@KevinLarsson42]

30% of all comments are of people still searching for the outro song name. So am I.

[@FreedomFighterAsuka]

I remember being so excited to see 3D TV as a kid thinking it was the future and then the commercials slowly died off and I wondered why that was. Tbf I'm still disappointed the technology wasn't expanded upon and made more accessible.

[@happybenjful]

Projectors use it still and is cheap,perfect format for it.

[@MajimaEnterprises]

I think it's just too gimmicky for most people to get onboard with long term. I remember watching Final Destination 5 in 3D on my brother's brand new 3D TV back in 2011. I thought it was cool at first, but the novelty wore off after like 10 minutes.

[@Don-po8vl]

In vr 3D movies are great and vr demos are also amazing.

[@Don-po8vl]

180 vr, is also kinda 3D and vr

[@MaeBlythe]

I love the 3D gimmick, so I was really hoping 3D TVs would be a thing! However, VR makes that 3D effect possible for people at home at least! Was that Miku singing at the end of the video?!

[@ChuckSticks1]

This is the first video I watched from your channel. Feels very nostalgic and a major theme of my childhood, I subscribed!

[@SuperBryant]

Can we take a moment to recognize that Jackass 3D was the pinnacle of this last round of 3D film. It pushed the medium to real art instead of just being shoehorned in.

[@alw2839]

Agreed!!

[@stealthysaucepan2016]

100%

[@jaspervanheycop9722]

My parents had a 3D TV and that is the only thing I'd charge the glasses for. Fun fact: they literally drove 3D tech forward by insisting on a somewhat portable 3D camera that could do slow-mo (the Phantom 3D), which became industry standard for 3D movies (actual ones shot in 3D) from then.

[@CTimmerman]

@@jaspervanheycop9722 Thanks for your service. Old phones can do static 3D images, but the new ones with multiple lenses should be able to film in 3D as well.

[@lordzed83]

@@CTimmerman emmm guess you not know that there ware 2 mobile phones recording in 3d. I had one on my youtube loads of 3d content iw recorded with it.

[@gerrittwesselink1147]

Just bought a 75” TV for the first time not long ago and I was thinking “whatever happened to those 3D TVs I would always see in CostCo?” And now I know. Thanks knowledge hub

[@chezwizard]

Why is no one discussing the outro music? WHAT WAS THAT?!

[@jlbeeen]

My dad had one of those Panasonic ones shown there, and now he has an LG 3D 4K one. The LG one is so much better as it uses the same glasses that theatres use, rather than the ones with the battery powered glasses which were so bad for getting headaches, plus, if the batteries died you had to find the right size battery to stick in it (I think it was a watch battery). And ugh, turning 2D movies into 3D, such as on Netflix, it was really bad, like so bad that things would be going the wrong direction. It was really hard to buy 3D movies as not too many were made, and then 3D 4K movies were pretty much non-existant and 3x the price. I do miss 3D as I can't wear VR headsets due to astigmatism (the technology in contact lenses isn't quite good enough), and I found 3D was really useful for games especially catching flying things in Animal Crossing, which I really missed during Festivale, with those feathers floating around and I had no concept of where they were. Also, Minecraft in 3D was underrated, I had so much fun with that, even with the red blue glasses.

[@keinname2481]

outro songs goes hard fucking underrated

[@inappropriatepunctuation3612]

what is it called

[@micahstoodley2488]

@@inappropriatepunctuation3612 I too wish to know the name of the song.

[@genarofiction]

Ayyy bro i need the name

[@KevinLarsson42]

@@micahstoodley2488 Same, Still searching for the name

[@KokoroKatsura]

A N I M E N I M E

[@GELTONZ]

I saw a glasses free 3D TV at a gas station once. I was pretty hyped! FINALLY! A big 3DS screen...and then I never saw one again. Yeah the 3D was a gimmick but I enjoyed it. The main reasons I didn't use it is because we only have one 3D TV, only 2 pairs of glasses, and 3D movies have to be bought separate and are weirdly lacking in special features compared to their 2D counterparts (which are already lacking in special features compared to the past! WHAT HAPPENED?!).

[@magic1wizard]

3d movies take more space on the disk because they have 2 movies on it for the left and right eye.

[@CTimmerman]

Special features were to get people to buy the media, but now it's cheaper to just put the movie on Netflix.

[@marsilies]

I've only encountered a few 3D Blu-ray releases that didn't have all the same extras as the 2D version. The vast majority, especially for new releases now, are just sticking a 3D disc in with the same disc(s) you'd have gotten with the 2D release. So I'll have a 3D disc of the film, a 2D disc of the film (with maybe some extras on it), and even a bonus disc of extras.

[@TheGreatMcPain]

@@magic1wizard While you are mostly correct the video compression codec used in BluRay's, which is H264, will usually have the one side being a full H264 video stream while the other side only contains the information needed to create that other side, known as the MVC (Multi View Codec) stream. Looking at my Godzilla King of the Monsters 3D bluray the left side is around 20GB while the right side is 10GB. Also, the movie "Life of Pi" had a ton of special features that were in 3D.

[@donbest5024]

I remember one time rose bowl parade was broadcast in 3d and you had to go to 7 eleven to get glasses to see it,this was in the 90s.

[@flyingwolfox]

what's the music at the end?

[@jasdanvm3845]

It's so sad to me that I never got to experience enough of 3D, I was just left with the desire, I am one of those weirdos that actually care for the feature in the 3DS! I would have liked to get the opportunity of getting tired of it.

[@oneuptheextraman]

When I inherited my grand father's house, it came with a TV that had 3D functionality. The only reason I knew this, was because when I bought my copy of predator on blu-ray, my PS3 defaulted it to 3D, despite the 3D was turned off on the TV, but was somehow turned on on the PS3. It took a bit to figure it out. Beyond that, I never used 3D.

[@marsilies]

Why'd you buy the 3D version of Predator if you didn't want the 3D?

[@oneuptheextraman]

@@marsilies I bought it used for fairly cheap, and I the 3D was optional. I did get it to work when I told the PS3 to not go into 3D mode.

[@gadielphilip]

I remember back when me and my dad went to buy a Tv, and the store owner kept on insisting we buy the 3D Tv, but when I started asking technical questions like the glasses and image quality he never gave me a concrete answer. which was a huge red flag. We ended up buying 55 inch 4k tv. One year later a friend of mine who works at the store found out that the 3DTv's were the most expensive and worst Tvs in the store, and the manager was just pushing them onto people that don't know anything about Tvs or electronics.

[@CTimmerman]

LG 3D was excellent for Street Fighter 4. It's passive so fast enough for gaming.

[@RonnieRLD]

I got my Samsung 3D TV for cheap in 2015, but it's a plasma, which was also a dying format for TVs at that time, which is probably why and they were trying to get rid of stock

[@Sauceyjames]

@@RonnieRLD I thought plasma died before 3D even got going.

[@RonnieRLD]

@Sauceyjames they over lapped slightly. With 3D TVs starting to come out in 2011 and plasma ending production around 2014. I just checked and I got mine in October 2014 not 2015. So I think Best Buy was just getting rid of stock when I got it because it was really cheap

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

I was working in and around Thailand in 2012-2014. It was really hard to avoid TVs or DVD players that were marketed‘3D ready’ in the big stores there. A few years later the big gimmick was those stupid curved screens. Luckily they weren’t forced on us in the same way.

[@LuvzToLol21]

I booted up my New 3DS XL for the first time in years since Nintendo was shutting down the eshop. I forgot how good the glasses free 3D effect really was on this system. It just works, in almost any lighting conditions. That being said, the best feature Nintendo included on the system is a way to turn the 3D off.

[@og87]

I genuinely loved 3D tv. I miss it. My wife can’t use it though. But I couldn’t get enough. Especially sports. Wow. The last movie I saw was infinity war which doesn’t seem that far away.

[@johnlynch1353]

To be fair virtual reality also gives a lot of people headaches the same way a lot of people got headaches from 3D

[@dominicstocker5144]

Depends on the game, though, probably

[@labounti]

Vr can make people sick that lasts beyond the experience.

[@dominicstocker5144]

@@labounti wdym?

[@jek__]

Part of that is that you have to spend time getting the headset adjusted perfectly, and most people never bother to even try. Not just the space between your eyes and the screens, but also the space between the screens relative to the space between your eyes, matters a lot @@labounti So can everything else that makes you sick. Ever see someone on a spinning chair? They dont lose their dizziness as soon as they step off the chair lol

[@MrHappyRobot]

hey whats that song at the end? shits jamming bro!

[@aemi5929]

I liked the 3D feature on the 3DS, it never gave me headaches and I felt like it added to a lot of games.

[@aluminium5738]

boy do i love getting ads about how to cure an enlarged prostate in front of your video.

[@alw2839]

Meanwhile KZbin: DEMONITIZED!!

[@kingvinoda3896]

With 3D I think people expect to be able to turn their heads and see things around like if the images were holograms, as it is now it simply looks like something are closer than others but it really doesn't do much except maybe give you a sensation of vertigo in scenes where things fall for example. Once people realize this the fad dies down and they'd rather just watch a movie normally. Also a lot of people prefer to do more than one thing while watching TV so having to be constantly staring at the screen from a specific angle kills it.

[@Plan9wood]

Around this time I worked at a Sears in the tool department. On slow days the electronic guys would come over and say “ you gotta come check out the 3D TV’s. I would sneak over and was really intrigued. The glasses sucked because I already wear glasses. After about 5 minutes I would admit that it was cool but stagger away with a headache. I didn’t have the money for one, nor did I really want one. I never really thought bout them again and they faded away. Thank you for the video.

[@kylelitwack]

I always loved 3d. Early adopter of 3ds, 3d tv and vr. I think vr is where it's at. Watching an old 3d movie in vr is a great experience and I hope it brings the medium back as vr grows.

[@samuelsolomon7330]

I remember my family getting a 3d TV. A big problem with the business model is that you had to buy special copies of the movies for a special bluray, compatible with a 3d TV and make sure there was enough 3d glasses for everyone. Everything just cost more for what was essentially a one note gimmick that we didn't really need to enjoy media. Eventually we just stopped getting all that stuff and used it as a regular tv.

[@CTimmerman]

Exactly. Even Avatar only had that excellent seed scene with no wallpaper background. They should've focused on 3D games like Street Fighter 4, which i got an excellent 48+" LG TV demo of but my cheap 32" HD Ready TV was still functional.

[@jlbeeen]

Once my dad got the passive kind (he had active before and it wasn't great), I just kept glasses from the theatre to use at home so we wouldn't run out. The blu-rays were really hard to find though, especially in Canada as we only really had HMV, and Best Buy that would sell them. Now my dad just gets the regular blu-ray disks from the library for free. I did like it as a kid/teen for some of the animated ones. Despicable Me and How To Train Your Dragon had great 3D effects, and if you ever get to see Coraline in 3D (it came with my dad's blu-ray player), the 3D just makes it all the more haunting, and it was so good

[@vixlind6666]

what is the end credit song?

[@anthonymerchant2597]

I use my LG 3D TV that I bought in 2012 nearly everyday. One of the biggest factors was Avatar being exclusively being given away with only one 3D TV manufacter. Active shutter glasses made it impossible to watch anything with a group without paying an enormous amount on each pair of glasses. I have watched this "gimmick" come and go for decades and now with a VR headset you can privately watch a 3D movie without any glasses required. You also see the screen in the size of your choice. I have show plenty of people my 3D TV and I still get people who love it. This sounds a lot like what I have heard for decades about VR. I admit it doesn't add anything to a film but it's still enjoyable to watch a film where you get a sense of scale and depth. It's no more a "gimmick" as the VR craze that keeps coming back every decade or so.

[@lukekingsland5851]

I watched a 3D movie yesterday! Thankfully you can still find projectors pretty easily that include 3D, including 4K

[@gernhartreinholzen3992]

My 1080p 42" TV broke after 8 years of daily use. I bought it for 699$ back then. I could now buy a 55" 4K smart TV for the same price, but I thought, "do I need this?" "Do I even want this?" It's kind of embarrassing to have such a big fancy TV in the apartment, it takes a lot of presence and I don't want visitors to think, that sitting on my butt and stare in a box is that important to me. Also, I just see no difference between 1080p and 4K, except when I'm standing inches away from the screen. So I bought a new 1080p 42" TV, for just 249$ and an Oculus Quest VR headset, where I can sit in a cinema with a screen the size of a football field and watch 3D Movies without a headache. Also the games are awesome, Half-Life Alyx is out of this world!

[@Emorejets]

WHATS THE ENDING SONG?

[@JuanTonSoupXP]

4D: the smelly smell, that smells…. Smelly.

[@SadMan-pw6ge]

I've had a 4k 3d curved tv (that was a handfull lol) since 2012, I've used 3D twice. It was fun for a while, not the price though lol

[@milansvancara]

Why was it tho, because the technology was bad or because you didn't want to buy and use DVDs or spend hours searching and downloading the movie beforehand? Imagine it would be as easy as just clicking on 3D on netflix or so, which would be so easily achievable with 2022 internet speed standards

[@SadMan-pw6ge]

@@milansvancara Its just a gimmick imo and they take too much space

[@DRAcapellas]

Amazing work man! Great summary of the whole 3d craze that happed

[@opium_opium8435]

what is the outro song

[@SMBeech]

What's the end song?

[@Honeychama]

Looking for it too

[@micahstoodley2488]

@@Honeychama Pain

[@Honeychama]

@@micahstoodley2488 Thank you, but I cant seem to find that. Is it Vocaloid?

[@starkickermusic2100]

Dude you have an awesome voice! Reminds me a little bit of Ron Swanson and Alf! Thanks for the great vid!

[@TheAwesomePieGuy]

if the outro is actually your music then i refuse to believe you got this good at vocaloid this quickly

[@greatestgamer00]

Nice ending with miku. A fellow cultured man

[@Xenofinite]

Whats the music's name though?

[@opium_opium8435]

what's the songs name i need to know man

[@Emorejets]

Whats the name of the song?

[@NyanCatHerder]

2012: "I wonder if 3D TV is going to become the standard in a couple of years." 2022: "I wonder if breathing in fallout will kill Covid."

[@Xalgucennia]

0:25 Oh my God I obsessed over that tablet as a kid, I thought it was a really good idea, an e reader with a tablet on one device,, and you could use the ereader touchscreen as a keyboard. I never understood why it never took off, I'd buy one tomorrow (assuming I could afford it, and it wasn't some crazy price lol)

[@OofHearted]

Dunno how youtube read my mind but I was thinking to myself, yesterday, whatever happened to 3D tellys and whether they're cheaper now, to maybe get one. Good video.

[@jessetorres8738]

If only I had a 4k tv then I could watch a 2d animation video about the failure of 3d tv on it.

[@theFLCLguy]

The problem is it's not really 3D, it's more like 2.5D. I think a real 3D TV would be like a glass cube that acts like hologram inside so you get a real 3D view. Or VR where you feel like you're actually there. But VR itself has a lot of issues to fix before it's mainstream.

[@thezipcreator]

VR is sort of already mainstream

[@Roxor128]

I'd say the big two issues with VR are cost and space. The equipment is still expensive and not everyone has a 3*3m area in their house to walk around in.

[@CaptainApathetic]

@@thezipcreator interest in VR is mainstream but it's still too expensive and cumbersome to be in complete mainstream use.

[@Ozzianman]

@@CaptainApathetic VR is in this weird limbo between enthusiast and mainstream. The mainstream wants to pick this up, but the cost of hardware, low quantity and mixed quality of the software appeals more to the enthusiasts who are will to put up with this and potentially develop for VR.

[@LARVideos]

@@Roxor128 299 is expensive? That's less the cost of a console, which the oculus quest is, and you don't even need that much space to use it. Just enough space to move your arms around and sit in a chair.

[@lrc4263]

I still love my 3DTV, it works great after almost 15 years :) but I do wish there were more media for it

[@calibomber209]

It would be great to watch all the marvel movies and mandalorion in 3d

[@my3dviews]

@@calibomber209 I have almost all of the Marvel movies in 3d. The last ones (Eternals and Black Widow) I had to order from Japan at ridiculous prices.

[@CreepyPastaSalad]

Love the My Name Is Earl clips. Well employed.

[@michelyoung]

Dude cool video and all but what is that outro song called? I must have more of it!

[@haruharii]

End song?

[@SkulShurtugalTCG]

I still have a 3D TV. I love it. It uses active shutter glasses which means it will always look better than 3D in a theater.

[@MrRancidity]

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

[@danieldaniels7571]

I have a 4K passive 3D TV. I also love it. Replacement glasses are cheap and disposable. It looks exactly the same as 3D in a theater, and every time I go to a theater to watch a movie I get to bring home more free compatible glasses.

[@ricenoodles632]

From what I can remember, it doesn't look better. Rather, it looks the same but with the downside of active 3D flicker (like a CRT TV flicker but much worse). It becomes bearable half an hour into the movie. The flicker is the biggest drawback of the experience, but everything else was great.

[@tony6795]

@@ricenoodles632 Except you're wrong.

[@ricenoodles632]

@@tony6795 My experience is "wrong"...? On which planet would your logic be considered sound? It's still noticeable beyond half an hour into the movies, it's just that it becomes a bit more bearable and maybe slightly less noticeable as the eyes become more accustomed to it. I was using Sony TV and glasses. Speaking about CRT TV flicker, it's actually very bearable for me. I'm using one for retro gaming and 4:3 DVDs, and the 60 hz flicker never bothers me. Yet I find the flicker on active 3D to be unbearable. Just let that sink in. I like 3D TV technology but I feel that the active 3D technology needs to be improved upon. If the theaters don't flicker then so shouldn't viewing at home, in my opinion. Maybe going passive 3D is the way to go, but I've heard there are drawbacks to passive 3D, too.

[@skuttduck]

I scanned in all my great grandfathers stereo slides. I was pleasantly surprised that my Samsung 3d TV would process those in 3D properly with the glasses.

[@keysontrains538]

drop that outro’s title?

[@WAHegle91]

What is that outro music?

[@robertfrost8264]

My first LCD "flat screen" tv was a 720p 32 inch for almost $2,000. Then my next smart TV was like $700 for a 50 inch 1080p TV. The 3D market was GREAT for people who didn't adopt it hahah then I got a 42 inch 4K for like $250 haha the entire market has been insane for so long that if you could stay one step behind the next big fad you could get a TV for a fraction of what the last generation went for at launch.

[@WillHest]

Someone finally hit the nail on the head that it was mainly to sell TV’s! It was always a gimmick just like curved TV’s were and quattron displays. Just buying time till OLED could be made bigger and finally 4K was affordable. Broadcasters really got caught up in the hype and lost a fair bit trying to make 3D production and broadcast workflows because you couldn’t use a traditional 2D broadcasting methods.

[@smugmode]

Anyone know the name of the song at the end of the video?

[@kosmik5573]

For the love of god, someone please identify and share the title of the outro song. It's definitely Vocaloid but that doesn't really narrow things down.

[@bradley163]

I remember diving headfirst into the 3D craze in 2010. Some movies presented in 3D (namely Prometheus) was spectacular if you had a big screen and a sound system that supported all of the lossless audio formats. Looking back, it was a big gamble for a lot of people and companies that unfortunately didn't pay off.

[@growingup15]

I think I was the only one who Loved the 3D Stuff. Everyone said I was falling for a scam but I actually enjoyed it and it sucks it all went away. :(

[@PiousMoltar]

Yeah 3D is vastly superior to 2D. It's like saying the invention of colour TV or movies with sound is a scam, lol.

[@marsilies]

There's dozens of us. Dozens!

[@SynthAir]

​@@PiousMoltarYeah, it's actually a perfect comparison. People think 3D is a gimmick because naturally it becomes less novel over time, but things like sound and color also became much less novel over time as well, to the point that there is virtually no novelty to them. 3D isn't meant to make you jump out of your seat every 30 seconds, it adds realism and substance to the image, a feeling that what's on screen actually occupies physical space, and like color or sound, the viewer shouldn't be explicitly paying attention to it unless it's important to plot or gameplay. If 3D becomes mundane over time, that means that the technology is well developed, because it's becoming a seamless part of the viewing experience. Going from 3D to 2D viewing, to me, feels like going from color to monotone, and except for the hassle of glasses-based displays, I really can't understand why more consumers weren't on board with it, except that there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of the technology

[@KyleJohnsonVA]

I was just thinking about the death of 3D TVs the other day, weird you did a video on it right after. The one place where 3D is still technically alive is in VR headsets. So far their adoption seems to be in a holding pattern, not quite dead, but not rapidly growing either. The Valve Index is close to my ideal but the cost needs to drop and maybe one more spec bump would be appreciated.

[@CTimmerman]

Cardboard was nice with my UHD Xperia ZX Premium second hand for 300 euro because the XA1 lacked some sensors despite websites claiming it had them. Only problems were weight, heat, speed, and controls. I bought VR Quake but don't remember it working. It should be possible to stream to a light plastic phone like a Huawei, without sickening lag or terrible controls. Just pipe in 3D display data and pipe out positioning so you can look around using your head.

[@Dreamwriter4242]

VR is far from a holding pattern. I mean, Oculus sold 7 million Quest2's in 2021. In the same year, monthly-active VR headsets on Steam grew beyond 3 million, so people are actually using them (and note, those two groups aren't necessarily the same, because it's a lot more work to use a Quest on Steam than other VR headsets - I think I read that 35% of the VR headsets on Steam are Quest or Quest 2).

[@KyleJohnsonVA]

@@Dreamwriter4242 3-7 million still isn't very much in the grand scheme of things. Widespread adoption would be if you are looking at numbers comparable to game console sales - hundreds of millions.

[@Dreamwriter4242]

@@KyleJohnsonVA Right, but having that quick growth for a "new" technology is far from a "holding pattern".

[@KyleJohnsonVA]

@@Dreamwriter4242 Even if you keep selling 7 million units per year, you'd still need over 14 years of sales at that rate to be comparable to the sales numbers of something like PS4 or Switch. Time will tell if that number grows or shrinks in the coming years.

[@investmentking4022]

I remember the house I moved in as a kid in with the early 2010s came with a 3d TV cause the owners left their furniture behind. It was so cool watching the 3D movies but honestly that about all.

[@randy206]

I sold 3d tvs back then and I owned one. I loved the effect but it was extremely hard to convince the general public to buy in to it. The biggest issue was the people didn't want the glasses and they kept thinking the glasses less TV's were coming. Eventually in order to survive I just had to stop talking about the 3d features unless someone was specifically asking about it. I actually just got rid of my 3d tv that I bought in 2010. I rarely used the 3d feature because the glasses were delicate and I couldn't trust my kids to not break them so they mostly just stayed stashed away in a cabinet.

[@gameplanetanimations]

To me... The "Fad" had not died out on me, I still LOVE 3D. In fact, I even make my own stereo 3D content from time to time!

[@gameplanetanimations]

@Doom Posterior What problem am I a part of? And how am I a part of it?

[@marsilies]

A few notes. First, in regards to passive 3D TV being exactly like the 3D in movie theaters: it's not. They both use polarized glasses, but the movie projector doesn't use alternate lines on the display, but instead quickly switches between showing full frames for each eye, typically at 144hz, i.e. showing each frame 6 times, 3 times for each eye. Also, active glasses aren't "mechanical," they have LCD shutters, which is electrical. The need for power and sync was a major issue. Passive 3D also had "multiview" gaming as an option. Also, the resolution on a 1080p passive 3D set wasn't as bad as you suggest. At half the horizontal lines of 1920x1080, that meant each eye got 1920x540, which is still 1 megapixel, on par with 720p, and 3x better than SD video. Not to mention your brain is combining the images for better perceived resolution. A bigger issue was the "screen door" effect when the screens got bigger and the alternating lines became more noticable. For 4K TV, I'd argue that HDR is a much bigger factor than the increased resolution. But a larger number is an easier marketing point. In regards to those 3D Blu-rays still coming out, it's because 3D in theaters is still a big enough draw for studios to make 3D versions of their big films. There is also still a dedicated niche of avid 3D Blu-ray viewers, so older titles can go for a lot of money on eBay, and a boutique distributor like Random Space Media in Australia can have success importing some exclusive 3D Blu-ray titles to the US. Also, while LCD and OLED TVs have dropped 3D support, a lot of home theater projectors still support active 3D. Personally, I bought a 2016 LG 4K OLED 55" TV that year, the last year LG included passive 3D. I still use it to watch 3D content, largely 3D Blu-rays. It's a great set for watching 3D content with, and Dune looks great in 3D.

[@my3dviews]

I have the LG 4K OLED 65" TV. 😎 I got Dune, but haven't watched it yet. Lost count, but probably have about 400 3d blu-rays. :-)

[@TylerMBuller12]

This video makes me feel so old I remember I wanted one of these so bad when I was younger. But at least I have vr have yet to get a 3d movie to actually work on it right.

[@kieranwalker6072]

I always had an active shutter Samsung 3DTV, but upgraded to 4K HDR years ago. Recently, however, I bought an old flagship Toshiba Regza from 2012, that's passive 3D. So much fun exploring my 3D BluRay library with my kids now, 10 years on!!

[@Nurpus]

The only amazing 3D experience I've ever had was playing MotorStorm: Apocalypse for PS3. That shit was mindblowing.

[@bookshelffury]

Fuck yea

[@AaronJLong]

I actually really enjoyed 3D while it lasted. Hopefully I can get a VR setup soon.