The Tragedy of Aliens: Colonial Marines

[@apotheases]

"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Aliens colonial marines?" "no" "I thought not, Its not a story Sega would tell you. Its a Gearbox legend."

[@dbexodia10]

Beat me to this joke.

[@kylemacd7134]

Ha! I actually watched this movie for the very first time today in my 26 years of age and I don't understand all the hate

[@Gruntvc]

I don't blame Sega, I fully 100% blame Randy and Gearbox. They took money and used it and their devs on Borderlands and farted out what we got in less than a year. Completely unacceptable. Compare this to how Ravensoft handled Singularity. Dev who had actual integrity and passion unlike Gearbox.

[@hl6816]

@@kylemacd7134 I'm assuming that you're referring to Revenge of the Sith? If so, I like it along with the whole prequel trilogy. I understand why some people hate them, but to me they feel like Star Wars and tell what I believe to be a cool story. I did not like the most recent trilogy though...not at all. Sadge

[@cormoran2303]

@@kylemacd7134 Don't worry too much, it's looked on with a lot less hate now that the sequel trilogy is out.

[@ddewcifer]

Randy Pitchford is a genuine slimeball, I don't understand how he's not in jail, let alone still involved with Gearbox and the Gaming Industry.

[@sinwithagrin4243]

Money. There you go. Its why every well connected person is walking around free

[@Dreadeyeknight]

​@@sinwithagrin4243Boom

[@TheLoganLives]

"Professional dishonesty" *immediately cuts to Randy Pitchford* 💀

[@TheAufziehvogel]

I'm not an especially big fan of Looting-FPS games so I never was really into Borderlands. But Randy Pitchford is surrounded by so much negativity, hell, this man is such a PR-Desaster that he is the second reason I will never get into Borderlands and not into the work of Gearbox in general. I know it's extreme but I always have his funny face before my eyes and the scandalous stories revolving around him. Every other CEO would be long gone from his position but he somehow managed to rescue himself after each of these scandalous stories, one worse than the other.

[@arvinjay336]

Adam badowski & that blonde guy are the runner up for this year hahah

[@wotwott2319]

@@TheAufziehvogel doesn't help that he put in some heinous shit in his games (see Duke Nukem Forever) then backpedals like crazy to save his own skin.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

@@wotwott2319 what did DNF do?

[@wotwott2319]

​@@drivanradosivic1357 contextually to Duke Nukem, just some stuff that wouldn't pass in today's decency standards. Though the bulk of it was Randy's idea, he's very adamant in stating that he holds moral high ground above everybody else in the industry.

[@thedungeondelver]

Michael Biehn talked a bit about Gearbox's mishandling of the property. He said when he went in to do mocap and v/o that the whole staff were disinterested in the project and had a very "Yeah, whatever" zero enthusiasm attitude.

[@Dreadeyeknight]

Wow interesting i never heard that before I'm gonna try and find that interview right now

[@Mefy_]

I'm pretty sure Colonial Marines can be summed up by the words, "Randy Pitchford."

[@klokateer4372]

2 more to add to that "border lands"

[@dnakatomiuk]

3 words Randy "Pitchfork" Pitchford hell stab you in the back for his own gain it seems

[@jaypeterman9721]

1 word: Bitchford

[@klokateer4372]

@@jaypeterman9721 Bird up

[@thrashnakthebarbarian9876]

That’s greasy

[@televisedpork7993]

Whoever narrates these has the perfect narration voice. Extremely professional.

[@Dreadeyeknight]

Yes great voice!! I'm surprised i don't hear him more

[@Pete-vz5uj]

You sound like a more calmer version of the guy who use to announce every movie trailer for almost all hollywood movies

[@Yawf1862]

I literally thought it was him....

[@pepeishere7529]

His voice reminds me of the tutorial narrator from Star Wars Battle front renegade squadron.

[@lukysmoke7078]

So much nostalgia...

[@pongamoosic]

@Pete 89, Thanks for the kind words, but I'm a `Far Cry' from Don LaFontaine (RIP).

[@MoonV29]

His voice reminds me of those documentary shows I watch in History Channel

[@pyrrhicvictory5844]

I'm so glad you guys covered this. This whole debacle still stings because Aliens is probably my favorite film alongside Terminator 2, and I was extremely excited for Colonial Marines. Plus I feel like Gearbox got away with how they handled the project. Thanks for shedding light on this again.

[@dontlook3650]

Randy Pitchford is a lunatic, my man. Avoid at all costs. He ruins pretty much every franchise he touches and avoids paying his employees.

[@jimm7346]

The grease for his grease-baths is too expensive, hence why he can't pay his employees

[@menschman1464]

He sure likes “magic tricks”

[@Marinealver]

@@menschman1464 and "thumb drives"

[@Anaverageguy41]

Its why I'm glad every single gearbox game besides borderlands has failed miserably

[@linkssy2]

@@Anaverageguy41 borderlands 3 is a dumpster fire

[@GhostPrimeReviews]

I worked in QA on this game, and I am credited in it. Its true looked so much better when it was first brought to QA but it didn't run well at all on consoles so the graphics were lowered substantially to meet FPS requirements. (As mentioned in this video) Gearbox wouldn't touch the code, especially for the AI, and told us so. We reported on all the bugs in the game and a lot didn't get fixed before release. Timegate really are the ones that made the majority of the game with Gearbox focusing on Borderlands 2, some minor changes, and the DLC. Sega wanted this title out as fast as possible because it had been stuck in development Hell for years at that point, and Gearbox were the ones on the hook for it, and it was pushed out for release. A lot of really great people were involved in this title, and it really just didn't come together well for a variety of reasons.

[@dimetime35c]

I'm not saying its QAs fault. I just want to know how this got past QA? You just have to play for a few minutes and you see something isn't right with the AI. Did no one say, hey maybe someone should look at the coding on the AI? I just can't understand how a game gets through with a spelling error in such an important piece of code.

[@GhostPrimeReviews]

@@dimetime35c I can tell you that the entire QA team did. It all comes down to what Gearbox was willing to fix. Sadly, QA is just the messenger.

[@dimetime35c]

@@GhostPrimeReviews how can something so important as spelling the words correct for the AI get past though? You literally run it through spell check and it goes hey check your spelling on this

[@GhostPrimeReviews]

@@dimetime35c QA doesn't read the code. They play through the game. Gearbox would not touch the code from this game, especially the Ai. Despite many, many bugs written highlighting how broken it was.

[@dimetime35c]

@@GhostPrimeReviews not blaming you guys. I know you did your best. I just can't believe a triple A developer can release something with such a simple yet major error in the code. It took a modder less then a day to find the misspelled word.

[@Benieg83]

The way Gearbox, more specifically pitchford, handled this and duke nukem is why I will never support their studio again.

[@jacwd3]

And yet, people still buy their Borderlands games.

[@EGRJ]

@@jacwd3 A series whose whole look and premise was stolen from a random short film.

[@Neb_Raska]

Kinda hard to believe it's the same studio that made the Brothers In Arms games. I hope they don't ever touch or revisit those games again.

[@Benieg83]

@@Neb_Raska I couldn't agree more. I loved brothers in arms. The reverence shown for soldiers was second to none. If you told me then their next game would be the Ludacris borderlands, I would have never believed it.

[@Kyrkby]

If you mean DNF then I don't blame them to be honest, it was a trainwreck since the late 90s. If you mean how Megaton Edition was completely removed in favour of World Tour (which didn't contain any of the expansions) then yeah, fuck Randy.

[@carldeathkorp1]

This game taught me a valuable lesson: never preorder a game

[@ZillDiddlY]

only game ive preordered since then was RDR2 and i can say i did not regret it

[@oddoneout1835]

Taught me something different. Do your research and write down good developers. And good AND bad publishers.

[@larochejaquelein3680]

Cyberjunk 2021

[@steelbear2063]

@@oddoneout1835 You'd had to write them by name, since people go in and out of companies

[@201hastings]

I’ve only preordered one game and that was Gears of War when I was picking up Halo 2. They talked me into it.

[@lukemilton66]

I bet Sega really regeted cancelling Obsidians Aliens RPG.

[@shagal2142]

I dont think so. If SEGA would really give a damn, they would Contact Monolith Entertainment and Creative Essembly, and would let them make another Alien/Alien vs Predator game but this wont happen.

[@Horseofhope]

They cancelled it so Obsidian can finish Alpha Protocol, but it flopped hard mostly due to Sega's poor choices, but Sega blamed Obsidian and won't sell them the IP to this day out of spite.

[@saadhasan2518]

@@Horseofhope well Alpha Protocol was a fun game to play a nice story and the overall rpg were well implemented imo it's an underrated gem and I played it alot on Xbox 360.

[@Horseofhope]

@@saadhasan2518 yeah, one of my all-time favorites, too, but, sadly, we are not likely to see more of it despite Obsidian still wanting to get the rights and make something with it.

[@saadhasan2518]

@@Horseofhope yeah I know it sucks that they aren't getting the rights.

[@Indigo_Gaming]

"Gearbox's Aliens: Colonial Marines was intended as a showcase of what's possible when a licensed brand and a skilled group of developers meet in perfect harmony." *Narrator: "It Wasn't."*

[@-Raylight]

I like how it's always a tragedy when *Randy Pitchford* is involved It's like he's a curse or something

[@alantaylorfc]

He was involved in the making of Duke Nukem 3D, one of the best shooters ever, so it's not all bad

[@macrussell78]

@@alantaylorfc He's been riding the coat tails of more talented developers for over 3 decades now and I'm positive whatever success Duke 3D had had little to do with Randy.

[@alantaylorfc]

@@macrussell78 I wasn't defending Randy. I stated a fact that he was involved in it, regardless of how big his role was. I know all about his reputation nowadays...

[@oddoneout1835]

There's always someone like him. Like Jim Ryan, or that Microsoft guy (i forget his name). All cut from the same mold, buncha liars and shitty decisions.

[@bigdaddychemster1201]

@@oddoneout1835 or Tim Willits (Doom, Quake)

[@Machina4K]

This channel is so good 🔥🔥🔥 i was so heart broken with colonial marines 😥

[@tonystechrepairs]

Hey man, glad to see you found this documentary gem!

[@GiulianoM14]

No esperaba verte a ti por acá! Jaja de un gran canal a otro

[@Xenosaurian]

Disappointed I can understand, but "heartbroken" sounds a little exaggerated. It's an alright game.

[@Max94824]

sega and game developers were distracted by randys magic tricks

[@Grayson030]

thanks for the laugh,it really lifted my mood

[@dramallama111]

Yeah, he promised his employees, bonuses. But he made it disappear. One of Randy's magic tricks.

[@prisonmike420]

Lol beat me to it!

[@nosferatu5626]

The video doesn't mention it, but it took no coding magic to crack the game, 1st week MP was infested with cheaters who pirated the game. Let that sink in, people were using PIRATED versions of the game to cheat in MULTIPLAYER with people who bought the game, almost immediately after release on PC through STEAM! Randolph Bitchford is to Magic Castle what Tom Cruise is to Scientology... most people would be lucky enough to have never heard of either latter without either former. My god, his permanently fucking smarmy face... I get an irresistible urge to punch a hole in it and take a dump in the hole whenever my eyes are assaulted with his visage. He needs a Guinness record entry for most irresistibly punchable face.

[@donttreadonmegamereviews4928]

This guy literally has the best voice narration I have ever heard.

[@AviationLBA]

Morgan Freeman.

[@Dreadeyeknight]

Yes this guy is perfect!! Wtf i can't believe i never hear him anywhere else

[@maxcooper6554]

Pitchford's dishonesty and greed cost the gamers something we would have waited an eternity for...a true Colonial Marines experience...

[@filmbuff2777]

And the game DOES have all the right elements & potential, but it needed a developer that gave a damn.

[@jillvalentinefan77]

The Colonial Marines always getting screwed by a corporation. They deserve a better game.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

I second this sentiment!

[@eomat]

Hopefully Aliens: Fireteam can heal the shotgun wound Gearbox did.

[@gamepad3173]

wasn't that remedied with Alien Isolation?

[@Darthilandia]

I love this types of videos, where they show a lot of details about the wrong stuff that happens on the way to the final product. Nice video!

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

I thought I could forget this game after I finally made a video of it but then you came along...

[@JTMConceptions]

When two legendary channels cross paths...

[@pinewolfpresents]

You're not out. You'll *never* be out.

[@itsblitz4437]

When you thought you were out, it pulls you back in.

[@gp556by45]

Same. It was the first game that I ever got so psyched for I pre ordered it. I learned a hard lesson with that, and I have never pre ordered since. On the sidenote, I honestly believe the multiplayer wasn't that awful. I had fun with it, but it certainly isn't worth the asking price of the game when released. Had it just been a multiplayer only game, and went for $9.99, the game would have honestly done better financially.

[@hieunguyenrileygekko]

yo dude, check project snowblind

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

Aliens is my favorite film. This was my most anticipated release of 2013. It was a tough year.

[@Larrykph4style]

Please never change the speaker, this is the voice I expect heroes to have. Fits in every situation: excited, sleepy, chilling, whatever. So give this man everything he wants. I beg you

[@YThdhs]

Facts! I went back to one of there old videos and heard the old narrator.....yeah she was trash

[@riffrider_]

I'm probably in the minority for this but the narrator just doesn't suit video game content. Sounds like he's giving a formal presentation because it's so scripted. I'd rather listen to someone who's actually played a game in their life instead of some dude with a deep voice reading directly from a script for $

[@LordVader1094]

@@riffrider_ That's what makes it good though, it feels like a professional documentary because of the voice.

[@kaptinbarfbeerd1317]

@@riffrider_ Both methods work, it likely just comes down to personal preference. I also like to listen to someone who's actually played a game and formal presentations but my expectation are different for both styles. For the former, I expect a closer look at details within the game while for the latter, I prefer more researched "behind the scenes" material.

[@riffrider_]

@@LordVader1094 Yeah that's true. It just bugs me that the guy I'm listening to likely doesn't even know how to hold a controller.

[@BritGeeks]

Very happy to see our game represented at the end there, thank you @GVMERS. It was an honour to work on A:I.

[@cormoran2303]

GVMERS: "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Pitchford The Conman?"

[@Monkey_SK]

"he was said to have abilities some consider, dishonest, under hand, backward, and outright criminal."

[@alexl6644]

Thank you for making this in 2021. This must never be forgotten nor forgiven. Randy Pitchfraud is still accountable as owes us two things: a heartfelt apology, and the game they promised in the first place.

[@dustysandals5466]

I love how hated Randy is whenever he mentioned, especially in Civvie11 videos.

[@harukaminicho2370]

That man perfectly describes Pitchford in one word... Greasy.

[@JaitsuStudios]

As he should be.

[@IceBreak23]

but Randy is an ass, even with Borderlands his Goblin hands touch everywhere

[@dimsumboy22]

he should be.

[@parasitex]

Any hate Bitchford gets is well deserved.

[@szelyesrichard6032]

Its the little things in life that keep me going, like grabbing a cup of tea and some snacks and watching a GVMERS video.

[@l4dfanatic11]

Bro your narration sounds like an official tv documentary or somwthing, i swear ive heard you before...its great

[@GeminiWoods]

He's a hired narrator not actually a part of the channel.

[@l4dfanatic11]

@@GeminiWoods oh...

[@Kashanca667]

Like Kevan Brighting, Stanley Parable narrator ;)

[@michaelterry1447]

Sound like “how it’s made” guy

[@GeminiWoods]

@@michaelterry1447 Actually sounds a lot like him now that you mention it. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the same guy.

[@LW1773]

"It's like a seven, seven and a half game." -Randy Pitchford Sure...

[@CrazyPlatinum92]

Seeing the films that inspired many great games like Metroid and Deadspace yet colonial marines was a colossal failure, but at least we had Aliens Isolation.

[@Cowboycomando54]

Don't forget the CM 13 and TGMC games for the BEYOND launcher.

[@gohunt001-5]

@@Cowboycomando54 but both's an incredibly niche game which barely anyone knows, and too little to support to run well if more people did

[@mdredheadguy1979]

YEAH! Aliens Isolation was AWESOME! I just wish we could get a sequel!

[@mdredheadguy1979]

@@Cowboycomando54 Dude, what are you talking about?

[@Cowboycomando54]

@@mdredheadguy1979 They are games that use the source code of a game called space station 13 to have game where Marines must wipe out a xenomorph infestation. Both Marines and xenos are controlled by players and there is a mild roleplaying element to it.

[@bonzibuddy4483]

"Game over man! (voice cracks) Game over!" -Randy

[@doomcookies]

I remember hearing about that typo that caused the broken AI. I thought: "This seems to sum up the game in a way I never could".

[@jessehernandez8419]

They misspelled "tether" as "teather." THAT'S the word they got wrong and it fucked the enemy A.I. up bad. It reminds me of that scene in Ice Age where the acorn causes the ice shelf to collapse because of that one little chip at the top lmao.

[@awesome9174]

There's a mod that corrects it though.

[@jessehernandez8419]

Games shouldn't needs mods to be playable. Dont get me wrong I think it's great that a modder fixed it. But that brings us back to my first point. Modder shouldn't have had anything to fix in the first place.

[@rezkid16]

@@jessehernandez8419 You should tell that to Bethesda while you're at it.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

@@awesome9174 Is it worth playing with fixed AI?

[@DaManBearPig]

Fans are still waiting for a true modern successor to the 2001 hit and cult classic AVP2. This universe is a perfect setting for an asymmetric 3 way large battle multiplayer game with deep customization.

[@blackg450]

"So what went wrong?" Randy Pitchford, that's why.

[@MusicaX79]

Seriously the man has his head so far up his rear end, he still claims today that the game is on par with their other titles.

[@Orcawhale1]

By that logic, so is all the succes...

[@TaimatCR]

Is your profile picture from medabots or something like that?

[@blackg450]

@@TaimatCR correct, Granbeetle from Medabots Navi

[@TaimatCR]

@@blackg450 Cool, it's from the games, I thought it was from one of the animes.

[@66Trendkill]

I love the new intro screen. So clean. Please keep up the fantastic work. Adore all the content from this channel!

[@pronstorestiffi]

Professional dishonesty... Shows footage of Randy Pitchford. Well played, well played.

[@jack9315]

What did he do

[@pronstorestiffi]

@@jack9315 Way too much for me to get into here. But he is sort of a pathological liar and a scumbag. Google his name, and i'm sure a bunch of news stories about him will show up.

[@AnakinSkywakka]

@@jack9315 he ruins every franchise he touches

[@jesseomollo9405]

Hello, I don't know if you could take some ideas on some topics on... -Prototype 1and 2 by activision (rise and fall) -History of The Witcher -History of Assassin creed (oh boy this has a lot of history) -Rise and Fall (and possible rise) of Need for speed. -Rise and fall of Bioware (Mass effect and Anthem. - history of far cry 2 and 3. Just my 2 cents

[@Deadalus3010]

I still remember how I watched the gameplay demo back in 2012. I was so happy to finally see another aliens game and it looked so damn good. The levels and the lighting effects were really impressive. I didn't preorder the game. I was devastated when I watched early real GamePlay. I will never buy a Gearbox Game ever again.

[@TexasLawbringer77]

Man I remember being in middle school when my friend showed me the original gameinformer article. Spent the next 5 years with my hype & anticipation through the roof... then February 2013 rolled around and I felt like a complete idiot for buying into the hype in the first place. That was the last time I ever bought anything from Gearbox.

[@ColdHardTruthNews]

@@TexasLawbringer77 As Public Enemy once said "Don't Believe The Hype".

[@DaveN80]

Nope gear box is dead to me.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

Agreed!

[@TheRageLivesOn]

this is the perfect channel to watch while eating, and that is a huge compliment

[@GrippeeTV]

This game didn’t have a single saving grace about it. I’ll never forget how disappointed I was when this came out.

[@jimm7346]

Which is funny, considering that there was a great "colonial marines" game in the Aliens vs Predator FPS for PC that came out in the early 2000s, proving that it's not only possible to make a good Aliens-based game but it's not that hard since it was only a minor part of that game... i blame greasy-ass Randy

[@GrippeeTV]

@@jimm7346 It’s easily possible, just another sad case of developers with directionless leadership.

[@eurisko84]

@@jimm7346 Aliens vs Predator had possibly the most intense Colonial Marines mission ever put in a game... I remember the first encounter with the Alien entering the ship like it was yesterday. The motion tracker beeping... the emergency lights flickering, the dark hallway. I literally did not want to take one step further. A masterpiece!

[@jimm7346]

@Noble Six I'm pretty sure the 2nd one is the one I'm thinking of. I spent many, many hours playing it with my buddies back then.

[@SignOfTheTimes008]

When I saw the interviews of how pumped up they were about what they were supposedly doing for the game I was excited. Its good to see that in game developers, that hype and passion, and then it fell flat on its face. Disappointing.

[@UponDemise666]

Thank the gods for Alien: Isolation!! That game single-handedly showed that not only is ONE Xenomorph all that is needed to successfully scare the shit out of gamers for more than 10+ hours. It also showed that there indeed is a market for games in the Alien Universe.... So long as it's done CORRECTLY! That RPG by Obsidian would've been crazy though.

[@viwahe]

"This was a dream project, since we're all lifelong Aliens fans..." - "So yeah, it scored about seven or seven and a half, which is pretty good for an Aliens game..." 🤔

[@quinnmarchese6313]

didnt isolation get like 9s and 10s from lots of sources? i mean Colonial Marines was hot garbage but aliens has a pretty good rep in gaming

[@viwahe]

@@quinnmarchese6313 This was a quote from Randy.

[@ChazUBCS]

This game was like a 3

[@SecretOp]

Hi GVMERS channel, you guys do an excellent job with these videos. Given how you guys have been making videos on forgotten franchises over the years, consider doing one on the "Legacy of Kain" franchise. It was a fairly popular franchise during it's time and it has a lot of history on it that would be excellent to put out on your next video. Thank you for all your hard work! Looking forward to your next video!

[@SicknessOnCan]

Aliens: Colonial Marines was the last game I pre-ordered.

[@TheWiseLJ]

Same here. Until I preordered Cyberpunk...😕

[@ooonyxxx]

Saaame lmaooo

[@everope]

@@TheWiseLJ stop it

[@harveytwizell58]

I've only pre ordered RDRII since this. Similar boat except you seem to have more integrity than I lmao

[@Sn0wc4t]

Yep, same here. Preordered A:CM on the basis of the (now notorious) demo. Never making that mistake again...

[@Drewgantka_97]

This is easily one of the most depressing realities of the gaming industry. That a concept so amazingly beautiful can be so quickly distorted by greed and incompetence.

[@SmokeNGunsBBQ]

It wasn't that bad. This is a movie fan's game. Oh course I grew up on shit like Alien Trilogy on PS1 so I was happy enough woth this

[@Matheusss89]

I was pleased to see you guys gave Alien: Isolation a mention. To me that's a pretty solid game. A must have for survival horror and Alien fans imho.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

I couldn’t agree more!

[@mulletsunite406]

I can agree that the graphics could have been better for when it came out. But I love the game, and I enjoyed the story DLC too

[@angryboi595]

Alien isolation was the my favourite game in 2017

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

Alien isolation is fucking great

[@thomasedwardharrison2879]

I feel that Sega made that game just to cover up aliens colonial marines and to prove their innocence

[@MrTonycoughlan]

These guys make some gorgeous mini documentaries.

[@cormoran2303]

I don't buy the whole excuse that they needed to tone the graphics down for consoles. AVP 2010 came out 3 years before A:CM on the same consoles and it's visuals were vastly superior.

[@spencerthewhip9204]

was colonial marines also on unreal engine 3?

[@redclaw72666]

@@spencerthewhip9204 it was lol like the borderlands franchise duh

[@jfchadwick11]

Setting aside everything about this debacle of a game, the developers may have slightly underestimated the effects of a 20 megaton explosion. Mind you, an irradiated 10 mile wide crater probably isn't the ideal setting for a game.

[@ScaryBoiSupreme]

Have you ever heard the Tragedy of Aliens: Colonial Marines? I thought not. It's not a story Gearbox would tell you.

[@mrcool-ko4od]

Damn it you beat me to it

[@Jarcca]

I remember the first time i heard that this game takes place on Haleys hope. First thought was "How?" because the line in aliens movie: "With a blast radius of thirty kilometers, equal to about forty megatons."

[@YThdhs]

Alien isolation restored my faith in getting a good alien's game. I wish we could get something like this though...

[@ryanelliott71698]

Then the mobile game like 2 years ago came out and all faith went down the toilet.

[@dallows3235]

The game has SOOOOOOOOO much potential. I would love an actual new studio remake this to level of quality that Isolation had.

[@AlanGChenery]

As a serious alien franchise geek, it was a roller-coaster of emotion. I was very active on the gearbox forums at the time and absolutely hyped by the detail of the set design, props, weapons, and the lore behind those props and weapons. But there where obvious gaping issues with the characters and some of the plot details. For instance the fact it took a petition started by Moosh and signed by most of the marines in the movie to get gearbox to add female marines to the multiplayer. That's not a "diversity" thing, just being accurate to the source material. Then the game came out. The loresuits were everywhere. The media was ripping the game apart. And the slow drip of leaked information started coming out. I spoke to a lot of devs in that time, particularly Timegate, and it was weird how some absolutely adored the franchise (like the Timegate employee I spoke to who claimed to be behind the pixel art "thanks for playing" easter egg in the dlc) and a lot seemed to absolutely loath it. A couple of the gearbox staff kept talking about how great borderlands was (which was always going to fall flat for me as I've disliked the series since the first one). The DLC further demonstrated that there was some serious love and some absolute apathy. The entire singleplayer dlc is a marked improvement on the main game (still got lots of issues). And Bug Hunt is the best multiplayer alien experience out there... On some maps. It's terrible on others. And then Gearbox lost their last ounce of sympathy from me when they deleated the A:CM forum entirely.

[@blackwingz55]

I think those that loath it hated the game not the franchise. Probably the development hell and then the back lash after relaxing the game is the cause.

[@Holy_Wraith]

I don't like Moosh. She was a good friend for almost 10 years but she deleted me because of political reasons.

[@YouTubePredalien]

That’s what happens when the people involved DON’T THINK LIKE A XENOMORPH. You get a bad game.

[@zekeooo2]

doubt you'll see this, did they ever say why they scrapped the original tactical FPS build that was originally unveiled in gameinformer magazine? that reveal had alot of details regarding the planned mechanics and story. essentially a brothers in arms road to hill 30/earned in blood game but with colonial marines and xenomorphs

[@alexspogonz]

So happy about a new video!

[@glyphion]

"It's not a story that Randy would tell you."

[@stagpie6449]

Not without framing himself as the victim!

[@adrianhula]

I really adore the gaming documentaries this channel produces, thanks for the effort and the enjoyment you bring us.

[@theutheone]

Randy being incompetent as a manager once again? Who would of thought?

[@dgorilla01]

I love this channel, you should do a review of the Condemned series or the Suffering series

[@rossmahon2]

I would highly recommend downloading Templars GFX ACM overhaul mod. Vastly improves the A.I and graphics.

[@Kashanca667]

Yep, he alone did impossible. Fixed almost everything.

[@imjustsomeguy5048]

@@mikeycrackson Nah man, AVP 2 is the real shit: nice story and lore for all the species, alien life cycle, even more weapons for the marine and predator, that awesome mech section towards the end of the human campaign!

[@thebunnisher109]

@@Kashanca667 I thought it was resolving a single line in the code that contributed to an AI bug

[@VioletPrism]

@@imjustsomeguy5048 this is the correct answer

[@everythingsgonnabealright8888]

@nikolai 1939 One issue: fixed 65 FOV. ON PC. That’s criminal.

[@gregtestagent]

Should’ve ended with a link to Randy Pitchford’s constantly updated geographic location like it’s The Marauder’s Map.

[@thoughtcriminal3843]

Tarnish Gearbox's reputation?! Is that even possible? I thought that was Randy Pitchford's job and he'd done it as much as is humanly possible.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

ACM was the start of it.

[@Krenki5555]

​@@drivanradosivic1357 You forgot that Duke Nukem Forever happened 2 years before this. This was definitely not the beginning.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

@@Krenki5555 DNF had the package of 14 years of development hell and switching studions, that is a red flag to me. ACM got loads of development team working on it, meaning it would at least be a rushed job and at worst be what we got. but yes, how Gearbox handled those two games negatively impacted things later on, like Battleborn(which is a good FPS MOBA with a story mode and PVP) and even their published games. I don't now if removing Rancid Pitchfit would fix how the people see Gearbox or the damage is already done.

[@adamm3869]

Gearbox is still in business, people still buy Borderlands, so i see no tragedy here. It's more sad that people forget, that's why the gaming industry is what it is nowadays. It will go even lower if people continue to buy cr@p like FIFA and such.

[@Cybo-Man]

7:59 - 8:05 Are we just going to ignore this fabulously low cut shirt?

[@H1016]

Apparently. Can't find the sauce.

[@FullBitGamer]

"teather" If you know, you know.

[@emotionalsupportostrich2480]

Pepperidge farm remembers.

[@DwarfElvishDiplomacy]

Remember, this is all from the time when developers tried telling players that the human eye cant see more then 16 fps and that 25 is an optimal fps because its a cinematic experience

[@josebenavides1850]

this channel is what G4 could have been with the Icons show. I love every episode

[@AgentsofRush]

Hearts were broken. Hits were issued. Randy is still out there people! Stay Frosty. We can't afford to let anymore of his games in here........beeep....beeep....beeep!

[@milkmanmcgee3657]

I remember I wrote an essay on the whole development and hype towards this game on my English final for senior year, including the reception and pure tragedy this video retells very well. In short, I got an A :) And thank goodness for Alien Isolation! 🙏🙏🙏

[@philipsalama8083]

I had no idea that Mikey from Movies with Mikey used to work in the games industry. Small world, I guess.

[@TheRealityBin]

RIP Timegate. I though the Section 8 games, especially the second were pretty fun. The FEAR expacs were ok, more FEAR but not less if that makes sense

[@Gruntvc]

TimeGate was the victim here. The true crooks got away with it and are still smug about it to this day. A shameful display.

[@GregFurey98]

I actually really like the F.E.A.R. expansion packs. Extraction point is great, and Perseus Mandate is also enjoyable.

[@theAZenf1sh]

I would love a video just dedicated to the tragedy of pre-orders.

[@sevenlexar]

Man, I remember hearing about that typo. Instead of 'attach to tether', it was 'attach to TEATHER'. Supposedly it didn't help improve the game much, that while it did help the Xeno's the navigate the levels better, it was still a shit game overall.

[@DCG909]

I remember people posting that after that fix, they had a cat and mouse encounter with a xeno that lasted for 5 minutes or so with the thing constantly trying to flank him.

[@Rogue_Nine416]

there was a recent patch in the last few months that tweaked the xenomorph AI (whether it was actually fixing the typo for the game without you having to manually do it or real changes, idk) and the game plays a lot differently now in july 2021 than it did in july of 2020 unfortunately, the human ai is still pretty stupid but i've had some pretty neat encounters with xenomorphs they're smart enough to corner you when you're alone without ai or other players and i've had them back off when i'm shooting and overwhelm me when i'm reloading or out of ammo it DOES seem to be a case by case basis for their intelligence though because i haven't had that happen every time i've played but their pathfinding *is* much better than it used to be and on some levels, it absolutely changes everything

[@Mister-Sinner0]

damn right it was a tragedy, i remember booking a day off work. Staying up til midnight waiting for the game to go live..a lesson was learned that day

[@DCG909]

Ah, this brings back memories... Had pre-ordered the pc collector's edition. When the day finally came, he didn't receive that edition, so since those were a limited run, I canceled the order. Dodged a big bullet there... Unfortunately that and the following years were quite bad with games, so the store had to close down ...

[@dwiggzmasterflex]

this is like the best content on youtube

[@socmonki]

I was so looking forward to Aliens when it was first announced. The magazine articles made it look amazing. The gameplay trailers made it look amazing. I loved Aliens and wanted to play in that universe. I pre-ordered the special edition with the figurine. When it came out I was so hyped...I played through the first level and...I knew I had been lied to. The game was shit. The Xenomorphs were stupid. It was a train wreck. I seriously felt like I had been robbed. I have not played the game since, and I have never pre-ordered another game since. I don't care what kind of cool crap they are offering, or what kind of in game perks they want to try and peddle...After Aliens I was done, forever, with pre-ordering. It has also put me off on any Gearbox titles as well, along with them changing Borderlands from realistic to cel-shaded. I'm sorry, but IMO it looked a lot better as a more realistic title, not the cartoony style then went with. Still a fun game. But after Aliens I was done giving Pitchford my money.

[@hardeepbasran9006]

Me to I was so hyped for Aliens Colonial Marines waited since they first announced but when they kept delaying it I knew something was wrong but finally when I brought my copy in 2013 I was so excited to play it then suddenly I was ticked off very poor graphics and so many glitches we were robbed and also false advertising again gearbox spent most of the time creating Borderlands 2 at the time again I could never forgive gearbox for what they did to a beloved franchise never buying a gearbox game again I don't trust them 💔 😔

[@socmonki]

@@hardeepbasran9006 I played the first part of the game. Never turned it on again. I don't even know where the disk is lol I'm still angry about it and still won't buy a gearbox game because of it. Randy Pitchford is a liar and a thief imo.

[@Drozey710]

Thank you guys for another awesome upload.

[@Michael.Virtus]

Aaahhh the notorious Randy Pitchfraud

[@patrickmuhwheeney6518]

"Arguably it doesn't matter now" made me spit-take! Thanks for the upload!

[@Guanjyn]

The real tragedy is that we won’t get a sequel to Alien: Isolation.

[@Hasshodo]

Agreed. Isolation was a masterful and beautiful game. But maybe not getting a sequel has its benefits - it will never live long enough to be horrible

[@nevillebartos3197]

@@Hasshodo I agree. It's not a game that screams out for a sequel. What it does show though, is the huge difference in quality when an IP is treated in the right way by a studio.

[@jarednil69]

Isolation was WAYYY TOO HARD.

[@PosranaRegistrace]

AvP 2 was a great game, but it was so long ago, nobody really remembers :(

[@jessikapiche6097]

@@PosranaRegistrace i do. I loved it and enjoy every second of the Alien route, lol. I need another one!

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

GVMERS: *Walks into a Morgue and pulls out a body, unzips the bag and shows Aliens Colonial Marines, he sighs and puts his hand on it* "I'm sorry this happened to you, lets find out what happened"

[@kingsnake545]

Wow this guy doesn’t sound like he browses Reddit how refreshing

[@dsmsblk]

Your work is always informative and delivered in a satisfying and comprehensive way. Great video.

[@JulianThursday13]

"far worst, and not at all for the better"

[@kenorose5873]

Love your videos, can't wait for another one.

[@MoonsingerMedia]

Thankfully Alien: Isolation came along and gave us a REAL Alien experience

[@10secondsrule]

Sadly there was this one guy from ign who killed any chances for part 2

[@lonelywanderer3558]

@@10secondsrule I read the reviews and decided not to download on game pass, because the reviewer said the AI is ass. I don’t remember if it was IGN. If you have game pass, resident evil 7 is the better survival horrror experience.

[@michaelw2263]

@@10secondsrule Didn't he try to bash the game for 'being too hard' or something along those lines? I believe it was an IGN reviewer.

[@Carolean_Vergil]

@@michaelw2263 That's correct, along with Gamespot as well. I've no doubt they affected Isolation's sale numbers following the mediocre reception they gave them.

[@ChizWizz47]

I was one left HUGELY disappointed by this game. I love the Alien series, and even had a preorder for the $100 Collector’s Edition… that I later found in a secondhand store for $25. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’ve seen a lot of fantastic mods brought on by the fan community that really breathe new life into the game. With all the remakes and remasters and reboots in the video game industry these days, I think now would be an IDEAL time to rerelease this game with the A.I. fixed, and all the graphical enhancements we missed out on from the tech demo. Alas, I have no hope for such a thing, but I guy can dream, right? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gtafan110010]

It's honestly a shame that Timegate studios closed soon after Aliens. I genuinely liked their moreso indy efforts with Section 8. Prejudice was also full of potential. I had fun with their games, in spite of how clunky they were

[@herrlogan17]

I swear I would punch Pitchford in the face for A:CM. Maybe someday someone will make a proper CM game and I wouldn't be too old to play it. At least Isolation was really amazing. Best alien experience. Thanks for the informative video.

[@emaheiwa8174]

I'll never forgive them for this. I hope their girlfriends and wives left them

[@LearnEnglishCanada]

Lay the responsibility on Randy - sounds like he siphoned off the resources

[@holdencommodore8645]

Bro aliens cm wasn’t that bad of a game

[@stephensmith8316]

Video game developers have girlfriends and wives?

[@MrGlenbw]

Now make a documentary about the 'Tragedy of Cyberpunk 2077'!

[@JediPloys]

Their first mistake was having the game set in Hadley's Hope after the events of Aliens. Especially how they acted like the nuclear explosion did nothing.

[@filmbuff2777]

Well, for me it was a lot easier to believe this than the crap in Alien 3. The Queen could NOT have layed an egg on the Sulaco, but to have Ripley conveniently being the sole survivor of the crash, & conveniently being implanted with a queen embryo was far too contrived. I looked at the situation in ACM similar to The Thing game. The Outpost 31 base shouldn't have been standing like it was, but it made for a great atmospheric experience.

[@JediPloys]

@@filmbuff2777 I agree that Alien 3's was way too contrived and convenient, but the difference between The Thing game and ACM was that: While you visited Outpost 31, it was still burned to the ground. You spend a majority of the game at other arctic facilities. ACM has you spend a huge chunk of the game at Hadley's Hope, a place that was annihilated by a nuclear explosion that Bishop described: "In 19 minutes this area's going to be a cloud of vapor the size of Nebraska." Considering he's an android, I don't have much reason to think that was an exaggeration. You could find a cheeky way to explain that _some_ parts are still somewhat in tact, but ACM acts like this super nuclear explosion did literally nothing to Hadley's Hope. It looks exactly the same as it did when the Sulaco marines showed up for the first time in Aliens. It'd be like in The Thing game if you went to Outpost 31 for a good 2/3rds of the game and everyone mentioned that it was burned to the ground, but it looked exactly how it did before anything happened in the movie, except for a few references, like the smashed radio room and the revolver.

[@kongzillatoho4558]

@@filmbuff2777 ''The Queen could NOT have layed an egg on the Sulaco'' Yes but xenomorphs can reallocate the eggs. Queen can comunicate with aliens and issue an order to place an egg there. Easy to explain. Alien 3 was a good movie btw. Quit with the hate. Its been decades

[@BenniRoR]

This could have been sooooo good. And look what it turned out to be.

[@NewMateo]

Wow. I honestly feel bad for TimeGate. They got the short end of the stick then were blamed wtf. Screw gearbox and randy pitchford. Man it looks like they closed down after this game. What a total damn shame.

[@user-fs8rn4cb6c]

Great, thank you P.S. Just a small suggestion, new intro is a bit over-the-top for how calm your videos are, hope you can revert back too non-intro type (it was perfect)

[@BokChoiTV]

Sad to see that another example of a film-turned-game was such a let-down. However, this definitely opened up huge doors along with providing major lessons for the industries.

[@berndjahnke9331]

As mentioned in the video, not long after this game wreck, the fantastic Alien Isolation appeared (it just got a fantastic Switch port not long ago). Problem was that Colonial Marines burned many fans and hindered Alien Isolations success.

[@KSC2-303]

I always liked at the end of the video you are showing a part of the game and you thank the contributors. I was always curious what you about to show and the end. I miss that in this video. But nevertheless a great video as always 👍🏼

[@Packers786]

I was very fucking disappointed when this came out but to give credit where it's due the multiplayer was fun

[@sgtsmith501]

I still find it funny the AvP 2010 had a much better overall game despite having to make a combat system work around three different races and feel somewhat unique

[@Marinealver]

I'd stick to classic Aliens vs Predator.

[@Anaverageguy41]

@@sgtsmith501 the open beta for AvP 2010 was amazing at the time too

[@TexasLawbringer77]

Escape mode was easily the most fun I had in ACM. The Marine/Alien customization was another small thing I appreciated.

[@Packers786]

@@TexasLawbringer77 yes especially with friends survival was cool too

[@judsongaiden9878]

Michael Biehn still rules! 1:11 "Levied." Why does everyone these days say "leveled" instead of "levied." 5:56 A Dahl Stomper with barrel4, body4, and sight2, plus it's being used with the Heavy Gunner class mod! A Dahl allegiance run as Roland would be pretty fun for exactly that reason. Combine Heavy Gunner with a Stomper (the best Stompers are made by Dahl, btw) and you can really rock like Vasquez!