The tragedy of the Jews: reflections on the Israel-Gaza war 2023/4

[@BrentDavis75]

Thank you, professor, you've given me a great deal of insight into the sadness & horror of what's taking place in Israel/ Palestine.

[@djonfonsteen6331]

Changing ones behaviour instead of forcing change in others may well help ease tensions now and in an all inclusive future.

[@stephenbest4924]

Interesting insights!

[@davidlixenberg5999]

Dear Professor Alec Macfarlaine, I am not able to deny that much that is happening and being caused by my people is imperfect. Relying on warfare to create a larger and larger state seems bad thinking. But the size of territories that identify themselves as this or other culture seem to be vast in comparison to that of the Hebrew state. If Britain, Spain, France and Germany are Christian nations that though Latin-based speak languages that are enough different to be spoken of as being different cultures they are still one block even when their versions of Christianity differ. It would seem that while Turkey, Iran-Persia, Croatia have different languages and Islamic cultures it ought to be conceivable that Moslems who inhabit the Holy Land including Transjordan-Jordan ought to be able to attain passports and nationality in other states belonging to one Islamic block. Why must the Palestine-Israel Arab battle for the corner of the world that is, presently, Israel. So much natural wealth has been conferred on Moslem nations that what appears to be seemly is that it be invested in the beautiful world of knowledge and advancing the Islamic peoples and not in destruction as in Iraq and Syria. The friendship of the Mufti of Jerusalem for a cruel WW2 ideology. Respectfully, David Lixenberg.

[@vp4744]

It’s not the size of stolen property that is the primary determinant for settling scores, but that there’s theft involved.

[@davidlixenberg5999]

To '@vp4744': Thank you for showing interest and making a thoughtful reply. None of the empires was created by remaining within domestic borders. The people that you suggest had their property appropriated arrived in the land, either themselves or their forebears alongside conquering armies - or as conquerors. Their ancestor may have been rewarded out of these territories by the empire. The Jewish need to have back it's homeland is a real one. I also want to further relate to the mention made by Professor Alan Macfarlane of the two-state solution. The British Empire tried to create a single Pakistan out of two Islamic territories peopled by different nations. It broke apart. David Lixenberg

[@davidlixenberg5999]

I typed a response to '@vp4744' but it appears to have been lost. I hope that KZbin can find it and join it to the ongoing discussion surrounding Professor Alan Macfarlane's opening statements.

[@davidlixenberg5999]

I was replying to the concern of '@vp4744' regarding those who speak of stolen lands. David Lixenberg

[@davidlixenberg5999]

​@@vp4744- I see that my comment to '@vp4744' has again been erased. Is this a KZbin policy ? If it is so I think it a little unfortunate because thinking needs to be developed and erasure does not develope thinking very much. David Lixenberg