The Tragedy of Wolverine and The X-Men

Wolverine and The X-Men was a short-lived Marvel cartoon featuring everyone’s favourite team of mutants… but with a few twists. In this video we’re talking about the show, what made it unique, and why it’s short run was such a tragedy.
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Wolverine and the X-Men is a 2009 American animated series by Marvel Studios. It is the fourth of five animated adaptations of the X-Men characters, the other four being Pryde of the X-Men, X-Men: The Animated Series, X-Men: Evolution, and an anime adaptation known simply as X-Men.
Wolverine and The X-Men (or WaTXM) features Wolverine, Rogue, Charles, Jean, Storm along with the rest of the team as they battle it out against the injustice laid down by the Mutant Response Division.

[@PillarofGarbage]

Hey! Since it looks like this video’s hitting the algorithm again one year on, I’d like to let you all know I made another video on this show & the story behind its premature end. Here’s the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5DcZnljo7Kcm5Y

[@juliiju0484]

God, the show had so much potential. Imagine the posibilietes...

[@juliiju0484]

@@Cartooncroc awsome

[@KumiChan2004]

I thought that too.

[@ChineduOpara]

Right???

[@cameronleepowerrangersands5519]

@@KumiChan2004 me too

[@quentinjones6877]

Right

[@UltimatePower01]

I watched this in its entirety on Disney + last year, I was astonished, on how great this was. When it ended on a cliff hanger, I felt somewhat satisfied since season 1 had so much great content. The ending being moreso of a foreboding than a *needed* continuation, but given now I know it was meant to continue, it would be nice.

[@justinarzola4584]

I rewatched it awhile ago, brings back memories.

[@andleepfarooqui7874]

I watched it when it came out and was surprised at just how few people liked it. Being on Nicktoons Network probably didn’t help..

[@Ranshin077]

Yeah, Ive seen it twice. So good.

[@DatBoiiiFresh]

It was really good

[@Dgjserffft]

Watched it when it came out as a kid, honestly one of my favorite shows of all time.

[@forgingviews3401]

This show deserves the same campaigning for a revival that EMH and spectacular do. Not saying it would work just that it deserves more recognition

[@snapshotsreviews4967]

That’s a whole fact sir, all those shows came out in the same era we could have had a new golden age of marvel cartoons but some pencil pusher somewhere pissed on our parade

[@byronsenior6499]

Of the three it's definitely the overlooked one.

[@marlonclark1896]

yeah

[@shawnswint1521]

I Found Wolverine and the X-Men Far Better than X-Men Evolution!!!

[@marlonclark1896]

@@shawnswint1521 same

[@JOVONO]

I would honestly love new seasons for all three shows - X-Men TAS - X-Men: Evolution - Wolverine and the X-Men

[@TrippleBPlays]

Me too

[@jc_hills1540]

Well it’s confirmed they’re continuing Xmen TAS for another season

[@JOVONO]

@@jc_hills1540 yeah I know I was just saying it would be good if we got new seasons for all three

[@siyasithole7995]

@@jc_hills1540 oh thats cool.... then bring back the other 2 as well!!!

[@anthonylogiudice2510]

The X-men anime was pretty damn good.

[@cadenz7719]

This was my first X-men exposure. Making Night Crawler, who has some of the best stories, my favorite X-men and one of my favorite superheroes. One of the most mature adaptations of the character by far.

[@Jacko_Fakename]

OMG I had the exact same expirianced. This show was also my first exposure the the world of X men and it's because of this show that I have a soft spot in my heart for Night Crawler: his poltline in this show was so good (and also his skin was blue and he had a tail which was one of the coolest things ever to my ten year ols self)

[@bennyhaibara7745]

Sameeee I watched it on tv when I was a child

[@cadencek3576]

Me too I had a dvd of this show and I always loved seeing Emma Frost as I thought she was really pretty and this show was my main introduction to X-Men in general.

[@malcolmroache3854]

This show still holds up. Now there are issues with this show but I love the personal issues that arise in certain characters and how they handle them. I love Nightcrawler and his episodes were awesome. The flirtation between him and Wanda man... I hope we get to see it in the MCU. I know White Vision is out there but I want them to move on from each other. Seeing Magneto doing everything he can to be proven right about humanity. Emma finally realizing she cares for the squad especially Scott. Emma should be added in the MCU Xmen then Jean. 8/10 for me.

[@kittycatmeowmeow963]

I especially love how he fights pirates in this. That's something you never see anywhere else but the comics.

[@ingonyama70]

I feel Emma as a character only works really well when contrasted against Jean. Since 2001 or so they've kind of become two sides of the same coin, Betty & Veronica but with psychic powers. Emma even mentored Rachel Grey (alternate-future daughter of Jean, do not worry about it) for a while, and their dynamic was just as interesting. Point is, without Jean Grey to serve as a baseline, Emma Frost loses an important dimension of her character. To quote an amazing story by a very bad person: "Superpowers, a scintillating wit, and the best body money can buy...and I still rate below a corpse." Emma is someone who can do whatever it takes to win, but still lose out to someone who's gifted naturally with everything she had to work for. It's weird to think of the rich, 1%-er White Queen as the underdog, but that's when I think the diamond shines brightest.

[@thomaswelbourn55]

@@ingonyama70 yeah, Emma definitely works as the contrast, but the way I see it is Scott and Jean were great because they made eachother want to better themselves, where as Scott and Emma accepted who eachother were and actually seemed to understand eachother better too

[@zaki7583]

Nightcrawler and Wanda did flirt at the start but their relationship drowned the moment she sided with her father which left to Kurt being imprisoned for a while. Hell in the episode where kurt is finally free he constantly denies that Wanda is the love of his life

[@leonardobraynen1524]

​@@ingonyama70 the way you ended that last paragraph; I see what u did there! 😉

[@benwasserman8223]

You can apply the word tragedy to so many superhero shows released between the 2000s and early 2010s. That’s the tradeoff we made for a live-action superhero boom.

[@josesarango3408]

can't agree more

[@gokux75]

I would prefer cartoons such as Wolverine and the X-Men, Spectacular Spider-Man, Young Justice, and Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes to have continued if meant never getting the live action boom.

[@benakinnusi2518]

@@gokux75 same. Especially spectacular spidey. God that writing is so good

[@leonardobraynen1524]

​@@gokux75 i wished they expanded on at least 2 more seasons of Young Justice b4 they "Matured" I miss that team.

[@yungc9050]

We need a season 2 just like they are giving another season to the 90s x-men! I love that show!

[@SlovenCathrin]

Hiii yes i loved that original show and the song!!

[@thedoctor2099]

I remember loving this show when it was airing and was so disappointed when it was canceled. The darker tone and character designs were so refreshing

[@jacobinman7054]

I think this is the best adaptation of the X-Men we’ve had. Not a knock on the 90s show, I just think WATX took the storytelling to the next level and really impressively streamlined years of iconic stories into a packed season.

[@ninjanibba4259]

I mean X-men Evolution exists too

[@jacobinman7054]

@@ninjanibba4259 sadly I didn’t really care much for its take, just my opinion

[@happyguy2k]

@@ninjanibba4259 loved evolution

[@DDRMR]

This is definitely my favourite X-Men

[@qb6570]

Evolution was the best

[@Turtle22312]

This is one of my favorite X-Men related media. This show was really good and I loved how dark the story was. I'm sad this show didn't continue.

[@Random-Draw-Time]

for everyone talking about how Wolverine the X-Men had a lot of potential, I would like to point out this is the only good dark Phoenix saga Sony has ever been fortunate enough to produce.

[@justinarzola4584]

"Fox".

[@triggerfairy4070]

The only good dark phoenix arc was from Fox Xmen TAS

[@hair4571]

no they did good on xmen TAS, i’d say even better than the comic.

[@medafan53]

@@triggerfairy4070 Was TAS a Fox show?

[@triggerfairy4070]

@@medafan53 Fox Kids I think.

[@illumi9044]

I loved this show as a kid, the scene where (spoilers) Polaris comes back gave me chills

[@K1ng1995]

I read somewhere that season 2 was going to introduce Havok aka Scott's Brother Alex Summers and the relationship between the two of the them. Wanda and Lorna's relationship changing as Wanda joins the Avengers, Colossus coming back so triangle with Kitty, Bobby, and Piotr. Sunfire being introduced.

[@franksandoval6046]

@@K1ng1995 Wolverine and the X-men season 2 the MRD going to appear

[@mttylerdurden9]

Both Chris Yost and Craig Kyle are legends of marvel animation (to me at least) both of them combined created and/or wrote for some great shows (wolverine and the X-Men, X-Men evolution, avengers EMH, Fantastic four WGH, the mid 2000s marvel animated movies) they co wrote Thor Ragnarok and created X-23.They should be brought on for more MCU movies.

[@rezonan3520]

Not to mention thier X-23 comics are great

[@jaredgarcia8638]

I think they should focus their efforts in animation.

[@murk4552]

They are terrible writers, outstanding animators.

[@jaredgarcia8638]

@@murk4552 mainly hoping for Marvel's animation rights be outsourced to Film Roman once again. Or at the very least rehire Chris Yost as lead writer

[@Popcultureguy3000]

@@murk4552 You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about! Christopher Yost wrote incredible Scarlet Spider series in which a mentally and physically healed Kaine Parker took up the mantle in Houston, TX and the impressive Superior Spider-Man Team-Up, which at times wrote Otto in Peter’s body better than the main book did.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

While I still prefer X-men TAS and Evolution. I enjoyed Wolverine and the X-men. It wasn't perfect, having some flaws (the biggest one being Wolverine as the leader and Cyclops being very unlikable and uncapable of doing anything without Jean), but had many pros as well (specially the portrayal of character like Angel and, my favorite hero of all Nightcrawler). I wish Marvel had brought this show back rather than 97 (at least TAS and Evolution got proper endings. WATXM only had one single season with many plots unsolved).

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Wolverine being the leader wasn't a bad decision because he can act the role. Cyclops imo was done okay because grief affects people differently. He lost Jean and he didn't even know if she was having a affair with Wolverine or not, that's truly something that will mess your mind up.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

@@mandalorianhunter1 But was Logan the only option? As far fans know he is loner, he's impulsive, an anti-hero, not someone anybody would put as leader. Xavier decision felt very forcefull. In any other story this role would be given to someone like Storm or maybe Nightcrawler. I think this detail wouldn't have been much problem, at least for me, if the series showed Logan helping Scott get over his grief, while he, on other hand, helps Logan to be better leader, showing the two rivals putting their difference aside and helping each other in ther personal arcs.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@alexandrefrauches132 Well that's the thing, this Wolverine has matured. This has been shown as this is in the same universe as Wolverine vs Hulk, where Logan is shown as that. However, in-between that movie then the explosion at the mansion and after, Logan was able to mature. Hell this is shown when the Silver Samurai episode was shown. Logan was put in charge a few times in the movies so it makes sense. Fans know multiple interpretations of the character from the original so making this one more mature isn't so bad. Logan knew to give Scott his space because getting help from the guy who was into your lover and she was into him doesn't sit so well. Logan knew this and kept his distance. I can understand why you don't like it and I do want that impulsive, loner Logan in the MCU.

[@Joxshuxa]

@@mandalorianhunter1 where was this proven to be the same universe as Hulk vs wolverine?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@Joxshuxa hmmm I thought they put scenes from the movie but it appears they just re did scenes from the movie with the same art style and animation from the Series.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Yeah I loved this show, it came on around the same time as Iron Man Armored Adventures and I loved seeing both. I liked how mature this Wolverine was and how it connected to Hulk Vs and then to Avengers. Ah I really wanted to see how did Apocalypse, my favorite X-Men villain.

[@justinarzola4584]

The golden era of marvel cartoons.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@justinarzola4584 it's hard to tell when a golden era of marvel cartoons were

[@justinarzola4584]

@@mandalorianhunter1 for me the golden era of marvel cartoons was 1992 - 2012 when x men tas began in 92 and Earth's mightiest heroes ended in 2012.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@justinarzola4584 I wouldn't call that a era as much as 20 years of Marvel animation.

[@justinarzola4584]

@@mandalorianhunter1 still an era.

[@mageeaaron2624]

This series had a lot of potential! Very unique. Plus, Wolverine is one of my favorite superheroes! Since Marvel Studios is reviving the 90's X-Men series, hopefully they'll revive this series and Earth's Mightest Heroes as well! 🙏🏽💪👏

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

If Marvel cares that is.

[@mageeaaron2624]

@@emeraldphoenix5868 I believe they do, because Kevin Fiege cares alot about the X-Men. The fact that he told one of his staff members "No" when she asked to change the X-Men team name, shows how much he really cares about the X-Men as a whole. Besides, even though Blade was the first successful Marvel movie back in the day, Kevin's first time working on a Marvel project was the old X-Men movies. So, I think he does care. However, I understand why people have doubts

[@ihavespoken9871]

And The Spectacular Spider-Man. Definitely The Spectacular Spider-Man

[@ihavespoken9871]

And The Spectacular Spider-Man. Definitely The Spectacular Spider-Man

[@ihavespoken9871]

And The Spectacular Spider-Man. Definitely The Spectacular Spider-Man

[@bearberserker]

I remember this show! It was disappointing that it ended with the following conflict being the Age of Apocalypse.

[@user-bb1wu7xo6q]

Well, i understand your pain. Its hurts, knowing, that this show ended so early. This show deserves more seasons.

[@GarmrsBarking]

I think it is rather ironic that Mavel has succeeded in creating a coherent universe over several films over the years, but has failed several times when it comes to animation.... whereas DC has done the exact opposite with a failed cinematic universe and an animated universe that has had a run for over 30 years with a start in batman the animated series and an end with Justice League Dark: Apokolips War ...

[@DRYstudios1994]

MARVEL was doing great with the Yost-verse... until Disney bought them and canceled the whole thing.

[@GarmrsBarking]

@@DRYstudios1994 dude... it's one letter there is missing... no reason to shout... I'm a bit dyslexic and English is my third language so sometimes I miss a letter or two... but the Yost-verse is still a failed attempt the reason is relevant in this context...

[@DRYstudios1994]

@@GarmrsBarking I didn't notice that you misspelled the name. I just Typed it in all caps because that's how it's generally typed out in official stuff.

[@GarmrsBarking]

@@DRYstudios1994 sorry... It's just when i see something in allcaps i see yelling... And notice the missing letter because of it... The internet miscommunication strikkes again haha...

[@ShadowSonic2]

The MCU has a live-action genius in the form of Kevin Feige, DC had animation geniuses in the form of Bruce Timm, Alan Burnett, Frank Paur and Boyd Kirkland.

[@MTV2O2O]

WATXM wasn’t a perfect X-Men show, and it’s bias towards and against certain characters (like Cyclops, who doesn’t care about anyone other than Jean) is definitely one of it’s pitfalls, but I really liked a lot of what the show had to offer, and I’d even choose reviving WATXM over X-Men TAS purely on the fact that WATXM was never given a chance with all the potential it had.

[@hair4571]

yeah Cyclops and storm are like pathological leaders but this series butchered them so much, but i just see it as a different version amd i still enjoy it

[@Black-ICE92]

That’s how they always do Cyclops? Kind of annoying

[@claybfx]

I’m pretty sure that was how Cyclops was in the comics at that time

[@patrickstewart3446]

@@Black-ICE92 Not the anime version. It actually shows you why Cyclops is the leader (though it doesn’t do much with Storm, but that may be to do with her being an “easy” button to solve problems.) 😁

[@jordanlongley3776]

You can really see how influenced it was from those amazing movies

[@vullord666]

What I liked most is the angles at which the show captured these characters. I also think it's what's most interesting about not starting with the same status quo beginning over and over. Probably the best example is Magneto and his entire family. Putting Magneto in a position where he seemingly has what he wants really makes other characters and himself question his ideologies in a way that's playing out before us and isn't the same hypotheticals over and over again. We see that Eric has his perfect mutant only society, except it's not perfect. There's an entire secret police and he's hiding his criminals and prison. He's forced to realize but won't admit that neither humans or mutants are as homogeneous in behavior and personality as he wants and just kicking humans out doesn't solve the fundamental problems any society has. I also loved his family dynamic. The doted on youngest daughter whose sheltered and protected (and one day just bursts). The beloved oldest daughter who refuses to stay silent (Wanda was SO good here and this show is why Wanda and Night Crawler/Kurt are one of my OTPs). Then the son whose constantly looking for his father's approval and is privy to all the dirty secrets, but gets the least respect. I wanted another season just to see these characters grow so much. Also to see how the politics would play out. This wasn't a case where the Xmen were heroes or hidden away. I will say I had no idea that this was from the creators of evolution, but that explains a LOT why my child mind taught it was a continuation at times from how similar it "felt" (like the atmosphere of the show).

[@K1ng1995]

I would've loved to have seen Wanda join the Avengers and Lorna being in charge of Genosha and Alex Summers aka Havok trying to help her

[@DarkKnightBatman420]

To me, the first tragedy was that it wasn't the next season of X-Men: Evolution

[@MadamAmora]

Kari Wahlgren who played Emma Frost in this show also played Amora the Enchantress in EMH. She slayed both those roles. Wish we could see more from her.

[@christopherbennett5858]

This version of Emma Frost is one of the reasons why I checked out the comics and part of the reason she became my favourite character in the franchise. Although, the real character that got me to check out the comics was Dust because I thought she looked really cool.

[@eamonndeane587]

I will always respect this show for giving us the Pitch Perfect Casting choices of Kari Wahlgren as Emma Frost, Danielle Judovits as Kitty Pryde and Liam O'Brien as Nightcrawler. Those to me are the Definitive voices for those characters.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Me going to Marvel Studios headquarters blasting this video at full volume outside of Kevin Feige's office (I am Christopher Yost's strongest soldier) For real though, I would prefer they make one more season of this and/or X-Men Evolution rather than the '90s X-Men show. I mean, I get that it's popular, but I feel like that show is part of a bygone era, and these more recent series had much more potential.

[@ATKL2k12]

I watched this show religiously as a teen. Definitely my favorite season of animated X-Men until ‘97. While since it started I’ve wound up so glad we got ‘97, I wanted a WATXM revival so much more and I still hope, even if in vain, that it will comeback one day.

[@christhechilled]

This is one of my favorite X Men series growing up and it was tragic to see it ended without a satisfying ending!

[@mickeymouse7726]

I miss pre MCU Marvel movies and shows ever since Disney bought Fox I miss those X-MEN movies

[@TevyaSmolka]

I love wolverine and the X-men show it was really awesome and tons of fun

[@zemox2534]

I wasn't a fan of Logan as the leader. I especially didn't like how they treated Scott. That said the show was pretty good and I wish it was getting a revival instead of The 90s cartoon.

[@lordmordor4805]

The show had some great points. One of the best Dark Phoenix adaptions, great use of Emma Frost by making it closer to her more modern depictions. But honestly...it was very much in line with its title. WOLVERINE (and his x-men side-kicks). The X-men work best as a team/ensemble group. But a few episodes aside, this was very much Wolverines world and the rest of the X-men were just living in it. I get what they were trying to do by appeasing the executives by making it about the golden-cash-cow and flipping the script by making him the reluctant leader....but leader of a team has never been one of Logan's things unless it was black-ops...he's done it it, but imo it was never that good.

[@thomaswelbourn55]

X-Men Evolution is my favourite X-Men adaption, it focused on the characters really well, and told great stories around them. Wolverine and the X-Men is my second favourite, it did the opposite, it told an amazing story, and utilized the characters really well. My only faults with the show were the art style, which was a problem for some of the characters, and the fact Logan was put in charge, but when you know Logan and his comic history it's not completely out of the question. I own the complete season on DVD I love it that much, my favourite characters been Cyclops and Emma Frost, which it kind of is in the comics too. My favourite episode is the flashback episode focusing on the first class, as they are my favourite X team.

[@GuileSSF2]

Hope it gets revived like xmen TAS, really underrated show, and so much potential...

[@rodimusmagnus5586]

My ranking of Marvel's various adaptations has EMH, Spectacular Spider-Man, and Wolverine and the X-men as the top three, with the animated film Planet Hulk in #4, and Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse at #5. God I miss the Yost-Verse, that was my childhood.

[@K1ng1995]

EMH, Wolverine and the X-Men, Dr Strange Animated movie. All one universe

[@Avenging_Archer]

Fucking ew.

[@johnsantos507]

Man, I miss Wolverine and the X-Men series. Wish they're planning to make Season 2.😔

[@marlonclark1896]

same

[@petertracycarroll]

Quicksilver is one of my favourite marvel characters and aside from The avengers movies this is my favourite portrayal of him there was so much room for him to grow as a character in future seasons but sadly we’ll never get to see that

[@lexruptor]

I wish Evolutions could come back with a decent shot, like 97 is... I think it had a lot of potential, if only it had a decent chance without so much external mess all over it.

[@Claudia-tm9dr]

I'm biased as I watched it as a kid but I'm currently rewatching X Men Evolution and I love it!

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

Another show that's long overdue for a Comeback.

[@MannysMillennialMouth]

The show was all about Emma Frost, Nightcrawler, & Cyclops despite it being called Wolverine and the X-Men and I LOVED IT🗣 This show deserved a second season

[@FotoPhreak12]

I say this as someone who grew up with the original X-Men cartoon and adored it every Saturday morning. So I hope people don't take this controversial take the wrong way, but I wish Disney had decided to continue this series instead of X-Men '97. the original had it's run, whereas Wolverine And the X-Men ending on its cliffhanger leaves so much open to explore.

[@jordanlongley3776]

PREACH!

[@rebekahsegun8319]

Fully agreed! Of all 3 series, WATXM deserves a revival the most. Evolution second as it was meant to have more seasons, but at least they wrapped it up the best they could. X Men 97 ended like it was supposed to (though still open ended) so is least deserving of a revival. One can only hope though.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@rebekahsegun8319 The 90s X-Men show had a really dumb ending though, Xavier being stupid enough to let Gyrich get within 100 feet of him after how Gyrich already showed he was a nutcase.

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99]

Great video! This show was a blast wish it got a season 2

[@Legolas310]

Man, bummer we didn't get more. I LOVED this series, best adaptation since the original animated series by far! Great video!

[@PillarofGarbage]

Oh, hey! I’m featuring in TSD’s next video, dropping Saturday! Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWXKYpiBiMyMitE

[@MrSemaj46]

They didn't have it in the US at first either, you might be getting it soon

[@youreinthematrix87]

I believe this show was on nicktoons i believe so

[@andreasgrothe2183]

It's a shame that Wolverine and The X-Men never had a season 2 and season 3, I mean this show was a masterpiece, why they don't understand true action and art anymore?

[@diegodreossi1458]

This show was amazing, i always like it, it deserve more seasons.

[@olessiatchijova8605]

Gosh, I love this show. I rewatch it pretty often

[@radio_gunk7959]

Great show and great video. Not this would have saved the show - but I don't know what Kyle, Johnson, and Yost etc were thinking not having Colossus as a featured team member??? The c-tease you in the very first episode in the danger room - where Colossus is training with Kitty Pryde - and then you never see him the rest of the series. Peter Rasputin/Colossus is EASILY the most neglected main mutant in animation - from the 90's series to this one. And I have no idea why?? He's massively popular - and the main team never seems to have enough brute strength heavy-hitters.

[@PillarofGarbage]

For what it’s worth, he’s one of the characters they were planning to fold into the series come S2.

[@TitleInProgress]

Great video! I’ve never heard of this show, but it sounds interesting so I might have to give it a watch. A shame it was canceled, it sounds like it had a ton of potential. Hopefully whatever’s currently in store for the X-Men in movies and TV is good. I’d really like to see more obscure X-Men get the limelight (basically all the ones from NandoVMovies’ casting videos).

[@CoinBox170]

Glad to see this show getting some recognition. My favorite incarnation of the X-Men by a landslide

[@demetricsmith471]

X-men Evolution was a Warner Brothers production while Wolverine and the X-men was a Nickolodeon project. Both products were made while Fox Studios retained theatrical licensing control of the property. Those series were the result of Disney not being able to use X-men in theatrical releases.

[@dreadedpunk3473]

One of the few series that gave Domino a bit of exposure. I will forever be thankful for that. With that said, this show and X-Men Evolution was my second childhood so to speak. This aired back when Cartoon Network was still watchable.

[@TheOther644]

I really enjoyed this show and was so excited for Season 2 with Apocalypse. Then it wrongly got canceled 🤦‍♂

[@kpftpbq7253]

Phenomenal video. I especially loved how you highlighted the writers prior familiarity with the characters and why they wanted to do something different, as well as how they used the corporate-mandated focus on Wolverine to inject their unique premise with a hesitant protagonist. I feel like the unique premise and abundance of Wolverine leads some to falsely assume that the writers didn't "get" the X-Men, but that couldn't be further from the truth. Thank you for this video on this often overlooked show. I'd love to see more on WaTXM in the future.

[@Tormalima]

This show was gradually drifting away from being yet another Wolverine Saves Everything to what the X-Men is supposed to be; an ensemble cast. A season 2 would've been the best iteration of the team outside of the comics.

[@ShadowSonic2]

Eh, X-Men Evolution was better than this

[@hassnainkhalid2416]

Brings back memories from back in 2009 when I used to visit the official website just to read the character bios and play the 2d flash games...those were the days

[@kal0247]

After recently re watching this series on Disney plus and remembering how great it is it's a crime we never got a few more seasons out of this show🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@liamfitzgerald1400]

Loved this show so much! Glad to see it get some appreciation

[@christopherbennett5858]

Honestly, it is a shame that wolverine and the X men was never given that season 2. Especially since this is the series that got my favourite x man right. Well, specifically, the Grant Morrison Emma Frost. I think the anime got the teacher side down better but I did not know at the time that she’d become my favourite member of the X men. Another mention goes to Dust as one of my favourite new mutants.

[@djnofly]

This was a fun show to work on. We really went out of our way to make it hit hard on the political mutant story. One of the issues that happened was Disney bought Marvel….

[@user-ib4pv7fh7b]

Wait..... You were one of the people to worked on this wonderful show?!

[@AndreRiikonen]

One of the best Marvel series ever, really felt so unique and had a special sense of peril and new take on X-men as a whole. I hope it gets continued one day!

[@zekrom00119]

This show was pretty good. I might rewatch it now since it's on D+.

[@Zikomo7]

The problem is that the show was marketed to kids with a kids aesthetic but it’s a storyline for adults. Kids don’t want to see mutant concentration camp. The show was ahead of its time. It should have gone all in on the adult themes

[@JonGarcia]

Part of me wants to watch it again because I remember being super impressed by it once I got past the first couple of episodes. (Was really not on board with the strong Wolverine-lead push out of general over-saturation exhaustion.) The only reason I struggle to start it again is that while I actually don't remember specifics, I remember the feeling of extreme disappointment of getting to the end of the first season and learning there was never going to be a season 2. AoA is my favorite X-Men story and this was the closest we ever could have gotten to adapting it. AoA is a story that works best if you're led to it. It needs proper setup for it to have the appropriate emotional & character impact. Like the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix Saga of X-Men season 3, it really was only impactful because the characters had been fleshed out well enough previously. So, I'm forever doubtful they will actually make an AoA adaptation.

[@psf_dioufmaulana3040]

"I want more but there is none" It was that type of animation spectacular spider-man and othere make me feel

[@chifii]

I remember watching this back in the day! The finale promised so much, and it makes me sad we never got any more.

[@cinephilia1252]

I miss these shows man 🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@Mezmero]

Only just discovered this channel and I love that a large chunk of it is dedicated to the true golden age of Marvel animation, the period of the late 2000's: this show, Spectacular Spider-man, and EMH. I would almost include the Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes in that mix. While it doesn't have nearly the narrative quality of the trio to come after, it at least felt true the vibe of old-school FF being a series of goofy, fun sci-fi stories following a family of heroes who often only become heroes out of scientific necessity. I wouldn't call everything after EMH bad necessarily but it's definitely regressed to a point that they'll never be that good again. While there's something to be said about the culture of recycled nostalgia we're living through I feel like it's important to look back on Marvel multimedia like this and say "Take notice! This is actual GOOD writing for these properties!" It's funny that the reason they stopped shows like this because the serialized nature turned their viewership away and yet now in the streaming age we're drowning in serialized content. Hell the freakin' MCU itself is serialized content! Look I still have a lot of nostalgia for the 90's cartoon that they're apparently bringing back but I would vastly prefer that Wolverine and the X-Men continue instead. Thanks and keep up the great work.

[@jeffreymarcum9658]

I watched this recently and it was really good, like I was glued to it, way better than I expected, id love if they could somehow keep it going

[@quentinjones6877]

I was disappointed when I found out there wasn't going to be a second season, this was a good show

[@Hazarock25]

this show deserves a revival!!! i was so good

[@jeremiahdansereau2950]

Im going to say something radical: I wouldve rather see this get a revival rather than the XMen 97 show

[@maciekwilkosz6377]

Originaly I was sceptical about this show. The name sounded like "Wolverine and his sidekicks" and I feared it would marginalize the team itself like Hugh Jackman movies did. Boy was I wrong. All the cast gets their time to shine and their relationships are deaply explored. I'm not much of a Wolverine person, but I got great Cyclops and Emma to keep me content. I was real sad there was no second season. Especialy seeing that Nate Gray was going to play a big role in it. Well, at least we got one awesome season. It was better than all the cinematic put together 😁.

[@DiarrheaIsUnbreakable]

The biggest tragedy of this show aside from its cancellation is it’s treatment of Cyclops. Man did they do him dirty just so they can prop up Wolverine…

[@justinarzola4584]

It's called wolverine and the X-Men for a reason.

[@ingonyama70]

I like what they did with Cyclops, I just think he should have been a little stronger as a character, like standing up for himself when Logan chewed him out the same way he used to chew Logan out. Like, point out the hypocrisy of it at least, my dude. I feel the same way about the show's treatment of Storm. Doing a "Cyclops is tired and wants out" story can be great for a roster shakeup, but as leaders go, Storm outstrips Wolverine by miles, and she just...barely existed in this show, except when they needed a big action piece.

[@AlexDragonfire96]

Because Cyclops sucks

[@karmabum21]

I completely agree. I really hate that period over all of the X-men franchises where they tried to lift up Wolverine by degrading Cyclops. They did the same thing in the comics. I'm so glad that Cyclops is getting his respect in the new Hickman era.

[@bqw2094]

​@@AlexDragonfire96 in the movies yes , but he was a good leader in the comics .

[@rodneylindsey849]

100 % Agree that Wolverine & The X-Men was Awesome & It’s a-shame that it was only one season. Fortunately for Me Disney + does still have it in the US 🖖🏾

[@Jakjakattack]

Oh man i remember loving this and being so excited for season 2.....then devastated when it was cancelled. So good!

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

This wasn't my favorite X-Men series, but I was very excited for that season 2 that never happened. You have a very interesting PoV that I never considered, though, and I think it's the same thing happening with Batman: a more divisive, but ambitious series (Beware the Batman) only lasted 26 episodes and was canned before it continued its plans, and its replacement (Batman: Caped Crusader) is the more traditional, safe, and "fan-friendly" alternative.

[@agente9988]

This is one of those superhero shows that I wish had never got cancelled. Same with Teen Titans;2003)& DCSHG(2019).

[@sasquatchandme3673]

I own this show on dvd. I love it. ❤️

[@randomaussie8498]

fucking love this show, animation, story and acting are all incredible. Charles' storyline was super interesting, the MRD is an awesome antagonist, the brotherhood were intriguing and the show made me LOVE cyclops, he was one of my favourite characters. Really wish more had come of it

[@Elvisbackpack]

I loved this show. You need to get it on DVD and listen to the audio commentaries, they were informative and hilarious.

[@typingcomments]

Seconded. It sounded like they did it all in one sitting and just got continually more delerious. The increasing inside jokes were hilarious.

[@MrDarthCIS]

Definitely my favourite Xmen series and in all honesty it’s the one that deserves to be renewed the most.

[@justinarzola4584]

This was a great show, the 90s spiderman and X-Men cartoons are fine but I prefer watxm and spectacular.

[@JulioCesar-ez6wf]

The show was made by Wolverine lovers and Cyclops Haters!!!

[@andieanderssen780]

Can't even remember how I found out about the show. But it was after it was canceled. Knowing that, I kept my eyes open for the DVDs and while it took a few years, I managed to find the four that make up season one. It's such a shame it was canceled, whenever I recommend the series to anyone I tend to give them a warning that we only have this one incredible season.

[@PurplePaddy]

Glad I picked this up as a dvd back in the day, I don’t know why but it always felt like one of those shows that lasted about 3 seasons but in reality they only had 1 great one and that’s a shame it couldn’t shine more

[@bifnasty]

Absolutely gutted when it got canceled. It was such a good show.

[@dreadpiratexx]

It failed because it didn't have enough Storm.

[@littenfire3563]

6:50 meh, reboots and revivals becoming more common is literally why my all-time favorite video game The World Ends With You, finally got a sequel after 15 years. It's why Crash Bandicoot finally got its 4th game, taking place after Crash 3, and it's why Spyro got an HD revival too. So it's not all bad. It's a way to give dead IPs a chance at coming back as a franchise

[@JD-om3nt]

I wept when this series wasn't going to continue on after that season finale. There was X-men: TAS then X-Men:Evolution and then this series came about... It was a crime that Marvel didn't find a way to keep this series alive... I know they are doing a revival of X-Men 97' but I always felt that that series had its somewhat ending (I always thought of it as Charles and Lilandra getting their own adventure) but this series deserves a continuation

[@mr.moviemafia]

8:56 Don’t worry, X-Men ‘97 might be a continuation of a 30 year old show, but it feels WAY more bold, alive, fresh, and brilliant than I could’ve ever expected

[@christopherbennett5858]

I do hope that Emma eventually goes on a similar path to this one.

[@rebekahsegun8319]

This show and X-Men Evolution were much more deserving of a revival than X-Men 97.

[@gutsonthemic5261]

I feel the same way.

[@guythethird4748]

after the 97 show got another season, i was flooded with memories of this show. but i remebered it having multipleseaosns, a whole phenix saga that lasted a season. when i looked it up and could only find i season i was thi king my streaming thing jst couldnt get the others. i am so surprised to learn i remebered so much stuff that just isnt true or is stretched lol

[@JoeBurgettMusic]

I loved this show and was so bummed when it was canceled after one season. It really had loads of potential.

[@mahega128]

Can you do an “X-Men Evolution” retrospective please 🙏 It had the best Cyclops portrayal in media as the LEADER of the X-Men, it created the character of X-23, everyone had their fair share of spotlight, there was no dumb love triangle of Scott-Jean-Logan-instead they made Logan as the “badass uncle” of the X-Men. It was an overall entertaining show with good action and an interconnected story that had a good payoff at the end. Even if it got ended early, they still managed to make a satisfying finale with the glimpse into the future. Yet it remains underrated and deserves to be more talked about. It’d be great if you gave it a go at it :)

[@pious83]

Reviled by Nightcrawler fans, however.

[@josesarango3408]

I also love X-men Evolution

[@Rucker1980]

Around this time I suffered from heavy wolverine fatigue. I like the character but he's part of a whole and when they reduce the X-Men to his crew of sidekicks it makes things unbearable

[@johnivory3245]

Couldn’t agree with you more. There are so many cool and layered characters to put in the drivers seat.

[@bigbabysld]

You know...I feel you on this comment, the title of the show kinda turned me off, like saying IRON MAN & HIS AMAZING AVENGERS, Wolverine is part of a team...not even an original member, I blame those movies...the original 3 all focused on Wolverine and they even gave him his own solo movies.

[@Drixenol86]

Poor Cyclops being push to the sidelines in favor of Wolverine. What were they thinking?

[@leshie__]

this was my entire childhood, watching it on release as a 10 year old was so amazing. cant believe they dropped it

[@zachryder3150]

The best voice acting ever done for Wolverine!

[@davidmount2483]

Wolverine and the x-men is like the franchise's equivalent of spectacular spider man so much love and potential but cancelled and ended to soon

[@wrylucifer]

I get really tired of media screwing Scott up, he's suppose to be the leader but people have always made him a wimp ever since those live action X-men movies. I can only think of the 90's, 2011 12ep series, and Evolution as the only shows that ever did him any justice. 2:48 bro, the mansion blows up almost as much as the shield helicarrier blows out of the sky . In fact I think even Mystique blows it up in Evolution.

[@MarioSonicUniverse]

She actually does in the Evolution season 2 finale

[@wrylucifer]

@@kittycatmeowmeow963 1) the Hugh jackman movies started in the year 2000, I saw it in theatres when I was kid. Wolverine & The x-men is a 2011 run this show was made in 2009, Stan Lee had nothing to do with it. 2) the dude even tells you that it was cancelled due to finances in this video, Fox had owned X-men since the 90’s. 3)lay off the crack.

[@wrylucifer]

@@MarioSonicUniverse thought so.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@wrylucifer Yeah, at least there thought it stayed destroyed for a while and not back in 1 episode.

[@thepokekid01]

I mean, this show... I cheerlead and love this show. It's not 100% innocent of rehashing and using nostalgia. It very much felt like it could be a sequel to either X-men show if you were casually a fan or separated enough from watching those other shows. Still, this show didn't fail at all because it was another X-Men show, it didn't fail as a sign of too much change as things people disliked. This was the first Marvel show Airing on Nickelodeon, at a weird and inconsistent time, in part because it was content for an older audience in a time where they didn't really have a space for that outside of Nick at Night, and Disney was actively trying to get the X-Men from Fox at that point and was approaching a deal. The audience criticism at the time was mostly on Wolverine being the leader, and Cyclops getting treated horribly, and the whole thing being pandering... but honestly that was almost exclusively Cyclops fanboys in whatever this small audience already was. The real problem with this show was that it was on the wrong channel airing at the wrong time. Had it been on Cartoon Network or ABC Family it probably would have had another one or two seasons just because it would have had a cartoon block to air in of similar shows with a similar audience.