The Tragic Case of Sabina Nessa...

[@Karenanneseven]

I cannot believe there’s a choice for the offender NOT to attend a final hearing. The victims family & friends had a right to give both HIM & the Court their impact statements. This piece of garbage should have been made to attend! 😠

[@emilyanderson4359]

He’s a coward

[@Karenanneseven]

@@emilyanderson4359 I agree and the Court was a coward too in this instance for not dragging him out by his ear. I’ve never heard of an offender “opting” not to attend this business end of the trial.

[@emilyanderson4359]

@@Karenanneseven It’s a disgrace to Sabine’s memory. He should have zero choice in the matter. The courts gave him the final word in this instance. Her family and loved ones deserved better. They deserved closure and the opportunity to have this monster hear their words of pain and loss. He **should** have to hear those words resonating through his head for the remainder of of his days. Bloody coward.

[@youtuber6193]

@@Karenanneseven it’s happened a few times in the UK recently. It needs to change, it shouldn’t be optional.

[@emilyanderson4359]

@@KatherineLaura6564 As a Canadian, I cannot affect UK law

[@EvilScissors110]

Random killings are always some of the ones that hit me the hardest. Nearly 9 years ago a friend of mine was simply volunteering at a gallery and crossing a low speed limit street. Out of nowhere, a stolen car barreled through and hit and killed her. They haven't been caught to this day. Love your channel man. Keep up the good work. Just a quick edit to say thank you everyone for the kind words. Hug your family and friends close, tragedy can happen anytime. Taking a positive lesson from a negative experience is, in my opinion, one of the best ways to "bounce back" as they say. Much love to all! ❤️

[@spookyufo98]

this isn’t comparable to your situation at all, but just yesterday i was about two minutes away from a woman who was hit and killed by a car. i didn’t know her personally but the fact it happened so close by and that i frequently drive on the road she passed away on just breaks my heart. i can’t imagine how that experience must have been for you. i’m so terribly sorry to you and your friend and their family. people who are capable of doing those things make me absolutely sick. much love to you and yours ❤️

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

That is such a terrible, freak accident. That’s horrendous. The fact they haven’t caught the perp is awful. I really hope that person gets their karma

[@EvilScissors110]

@@spookyufo98 Even if you didn't know them, it's still a tragic loss of life that shouldn't have happened. You're a kind soul to feel that empathy! It was kind of surreal to find out. I woke up, had a bowl of cereal, turned on the news, and saw her picture. Kind of hard to describe how you feel so many emotions, yet completely numb at the same time. And thank you, I still check the news a few times a year to see if anything has been solved, and chat with her mom once in a while. Much love to you and yours as well, let's all keep looking after each other ❤️

[@niah1978]

God Bless 🙏🏾🤍, I’m so sorry about your loss 🙏🏾🤍, may God protect over you & your family Amen 🙏🏾🤍

[@elaynewrightberman2336]

I carry a knife with me, and have a gun in sight

[@scottyerkes1867]

A tragic and senseless loss of a beautiful young woman's life. Her killer should never be released from prison. Thank you Adrian for posting this case. My thoughts and prayers go to Sabina's family.

[@BelchingBeaver69]

She gives me a boaner and im GAY !

[@symun02]

It's just horrifying that somebody can just randomly decide that they are going to kill you. For absolutely no reason at all other than because they are angry or frustrated. Another excellent episode, and although deeply terrifying it just bolsters that need to stay vigilant and aware at ALL times!

[@geelee1977]

It's a dangerous world. There's all these hairless apes running around, billions of them, that are basically wild animals, with excellent eye hand coordination and the ability to use and make weapons, and they have an instinct to kill, sometimes, often times, just for fun.

[@GodsDaughter_v]

She was my sisters teacher…she was so sweet and kind all the kids loved her. May her soul rest in peace 💔

[@troy801]

Shout out to you Adrian man, you're one of the most consistent and entertaining true crime channels on YT. Well researched, no sensational or hyperbolic waffling, and always enormously respectful to the victims. Keep it up, my friend. Long time subscriber

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you dude! I appreciate it

[@proudmen1220]

@@CoffeehouseCrime full of misandry

[@Usdi1999]

@@proudmen1220 "misandry":lol. Give your head a wobble

[@proudmen1220]

@@Usdi1999 Misandry it's a huge problem

[@Usdi1999]

@@proudmen1220 so are murderous lunatics like the one chronicled here. Your point being?

[@ErikaTBus]

Duuuude. I was mugged walking down what I thought was a safe residential street in Pittsburgh and things like this scare me so much. I was grabbed from behind, caught in a chokehold until I was unconscious but I remember thinking I was going to die. It was a relief to wake up, but it could have been so much worse. I carry pepper spray now, but I'm definitely more aware of my surroundings. People, be careful out there!

[@chocoburgersenpai1627]

You could have encounter much worse people like rapist where he chokes you until you passed out and take you home as prisoner you're very lucky it was not those kind of people.

[@truenokill]

Pittsburgh? Wow I thought that was a safe city. I guess we are safe no where

[@chilliinsanity6898]

Where the f is Pittsburgh?

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

@@truenokill Safe is all relative. Bad things can happen anywhere, and bad people can be anywhere.

[@kinglaffey8174]

In knife ridden London (apparently a brilliant diverse place according to this channel) you arent allowed to carry pepper spray, you are expectedd to run or be an expert in fighting off a knife attack

[@catladyjai1113]

This beautiful young lady's life was cut short because this man baby was having a tantrum over being rejected by his ex.... but on a side note I also find it interesting that over her life she had an eerie feeling about that park and then she ended up losing her life there...

[@beaulieuc8910]

the parks round that area are often eerie, and most have a bad reputation. I live near there

[@teza5876]

I wish she followed her instincts. Also, i don't know about London, but some parks attract drug users, homeless, ratty teenagers...

[@Midna.K]

The change needs to start from the families and the way sons are raised. There are too many of these men babies around who grow up arrogant and entitled because since a young age their parents never said "no" to them and were treated like little princes... they become adults who can't handle rejections and throw a tantrum every time they aren't pleased and things don't go as they wanted to. I see so many spoiled sons because "boys will be boys" while daughters are thought to be more responsible, this shit needs to stop.

[@cakes3958]

NO. it’s because he’s a sick and evil individual, not because his ex rejected him.

[@n4t4shaaaa]

@@Midna.K this!

[@jennaeveliina313]

Just to think, how many "coincidences" had to line up for her to be on the way of this creep, at this very moment, in this specific place... its unbelievable, frustrating, heartbreaking and not fair at all.. this was so unnecessary..😔

[@cocoaorange1]

If only she to the cafe in another direction. We cannot always for see these things.

[@cocoaorange1]

Correction, went to the cafe.

[@itspetsie]

And the fact that she would usually avoid passing through the park but she decided to do so that specific day coz she thought she would be safe..so heartbreaking.But I guess even if she had avoided the park the idiot would still have found someone to murder.

[@reagan2347]

Ugh poor Sabina. Can't even walk 10 minutes without a predator snuffing out her beautiful life. Thank you for bringing her tragic story to us, Adrian. You are a good man and an outstanding content creator ❤❤❤

[@S33KERofTRUTH]

The one thing that always bothers me with all these murder is how many sick individuals out there think they have the right to take another human beings life. It's just sad and happens to often.

[@Rainsnowreadysetblow]

Sickening men*

[@toddstone230]

@@Rainsnowreadysetblow It's neither reserved to Men nor Women. The original commentator was right when he said "Sick Individuals"

[@rolandreegan3665]

Sickness got cure but DEMONS??

[@rolandreegan3665]

DEMONS ALLWAYS SWIM WITH BLOOD..GOOD DAY FOLKS 👌👌

[@terrorsquadlith]

keep accepting 3rd world trash into your countries

[@gtw4546]

Can you even begin to imagine what Koci Selamaj's ex-wife is going through with the combination of relief that he's now behind bars mixed with the horror that another woman died because he was angry at HER? I think I'd be feeling "survivor's guilt" as illogical as that may seem.

[@YaLittleFriend]

Goood point ughhhh wow

[@Capella_Star]

I've read that she's moved back to her home country and said that it should have been her. Probably she is very traumatised too ! Horrible actions of this man have affected so many lives!

[@addie_is_me]

I thought of that as well. She must have felt almost part of it somehow.

[@exhaustedbaking]

@@Capella_Star That poor woman. As if being abused by him wasn't bad enough, now she has that weight upon her. I hope she finds happiness again somehow.

[@marwitta]

I thought that too

[@Aurgelmer444]

What makes one believe that you could get away with murder? The level of sickness and narcissism has to be sky high.

[@abebuckingham8198]

About 40% of murders go unsolved so it seems like a lot of people are in fact getting away with it.

[@justjenny581]

They don't think about getting away with murder, I recon it's just about the kill and then they panic after the fact.

[@nora4981]

Lack of death sentences in the west 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@sk-nb5tl]

Probably the fact that he drove hours away from where he lives. Luckily theres ccrv

[@aguythatthinks7931]

His violent nature was probably taught to him by his culture

[@tahrikon4633]

I'll be honest I don't think I'll be able to watch this video as Sabina Nessa was a distant relative of mine. But thank you for covering this case.

[@annoyingggandiii]

It's super fucked up in the UK that we're not allowed to carry defensive items such as pepper spray. As you mentioned, there were a lot of similar cases around the same time and it's quite daunting to think that so many wish to harm women. Too many lives have been cut short. RIP.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

Obviously guns are a no-go, but fuckin' pepper spray? That's always boggled my remind regarding the UK.

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

@@DakotaofRaptors Why should guns be a no go? They are often the only effective option, especially for women. Pepper spray sucks and won't stop a determined assailant.

[@jjjj-cy3vz]

@@worsethanjoerogan8061 i agree. taking away a persons right to a weapon means that their safety is now in the hands of the criminal that decides to attack them. in the united states there are MANY more defensive uses of a firearm than there are firearm murders. they literally save more lives than they take according to statistics.

[@Saral_Lekhi]

Violence is allowed.bself defence isn't??? Huh

[@annoyingggandiii]

@@Saral_Lekhi yes, but you're not allowed anything that is defined as a weapon. Meaning chances of successfully defending yourself are slim as most aggressors will be stronger or armed.

[@InvisibleSoul8]

It seems like he had murderous rage against his ex-wife, but couldn't take it out on her, maybe because it would be too obvious, so instead he murdered a completely innocent stranger as a surrogate, thinking maybe he could get away with it. If it wasn't for some grainy security footage, he very possibly could have. Immensely tragic. RIP to Sabina.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

Sounds like it. His ex-wife worked in the hotel and had been living there since leaving him, so it appears he checked in either to harass her or get closer to her. He then planned to go to Brighton and find someone to have sex with, but instead, inexplicably drove all the way up to London and to a random area he'd literally never been to before. We'll never know why and he has never explained it. If he'd just hired an escort in Brighton then this all would likely never have happened.

[@orokusaki8670]

yea if only she would have slept with him in the back of the car that sad fateful night, who knows what would have happened.!!! so tragic and sad

[@exhaustedbaking]

Sounds about right. I wonder if he saw something in Sabina that reminded him of his ex. Her dark hair? Her build? It could have been anything, and that's the most frightening part, IMO. There was not a thing she could have done. He laid eyes on her and decided 'that's the one', and the coward will probably never say why.

[@LKre-vi5oq]

Sadly, with violent males like him, the rage intensifies so much that any woman will do. Narcissistic sociopath.

[@stellashepherd3229]

@@halfbakedproductions7887 He probably would have killed the escort.

[@spookyufo98]

it makes me terribly sad no matter what, but it especially hurts to hear about cases where the victim was such a hardworking individual with a very bright future. i’m so sorry for sabina and her family. she seemed like such a genuine and loving person 💔 thank you again adrian for getting victims stories out there and keeping their names alive in such a caring and empathetic way xx

[@IzraelGraves]

You mean every case? They describe every person that passes as a "loving, caring individual who was a hard worker with a bright future". Nobody ever is like "Oh man, Chad was r***ed and murdered? Ah well, fuck that guy, he was a dick and drank too much."

[@dannii2323]

Ccb

[@asphaltspreader]

It is always disturbing when for no reason whatsoever a person is killed. To this killer, Sabina could have been any woman walking alone. He never met her. Had no motive other than his sick deranged personality. She was unaware and defenseless. Hard to wrap my mind around such randomness. We like to believe there is reason, order, a "plan". But where is any of that here??

[@blitzunddommer]

After hearing such horrific cases, the “look after each other” at the end of every video gets me everytime

[@eastonjames6582]

Hello how are you

[@anilliteratejanitor]

Same, tbh.

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

@@eastonjames6582 stop being a creep.

[@jayasmiah6617]

Well said

[@lr6477]

He needs to do a video on how to avoid psychos and abusers. Red flags

[@schekkitaakanmu6187]

This is seriously so sad. I worked with her years ago. She was honestly so sweet and kind and everyone loved her at work. I cannot believe this. This has saddened me. I pray for the comfort of The Lord for her family in Jesus name x

[@inerit5175]

AMEN!

[@sbegum246]

London has never been the same since the lockdowns. As an Asian Bangladeshi woman born and living in London, i no longer am out after dark. It's strange, eerie and everyone's watching their backs in fear, walking fast, heads down. Just a few years ago, i would go on night time walks alone and go running with my friends but that thought now terrifies me now. May your soul be at peace Sabina.

[@georgelloyd9364]

​@Hach-cn4bo another life claimed by illegal immigrants

[@miss-nomer]

Her poor family. I cannot imagine the grief they must have suffered at losing their beautiful young daughter. As a mother of two girls, it scares me every day that monsters like this walk among us.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

So you only care because she's "beautiful"?

[@ananse77]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Did she say that? The only reason she mentioned why this hit her hard is because she's a mother of two girls. Snd just so you know, to most mothers, their children are "beautiful".

[@wandertree]

I have a beautiful daughter too, and it is scary that there are such evil men walking about. Thankfully, most men are not this way and would help anyone in distress. But the bad ones are absolutely reprehensible. I teach my daughter safety, awareness, and even stories like these so that she be alert and smart in her choices.

[@petrolhead0387]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 crawl back under your rock, you sad little troll. If that is really what you got from their comment, then I suggest you go back and learn to read.

[@jjohnwords2873]

This girl used to walk past me all the time as the school she was teaching in was behind the apartment I was living in. I only put 2+2 together when they spoke more about her on the news. Real sad and shook a lot of people up.

[@aidenjohnson2769]

I used to go there all the time cos my friend used to live in the apartments across from the park, some time after she died me and my friends walked past the memorial at like 2 am, its a bit of a shock to figure out that someone was murdered so close to where you frequent

[@ShawntiaKnott]

wow. I couldn't even begin to understand

[@swallowedinthesea11]

You could have walked with Sabina and she would still be here.

[@insanelittlesilk]

@@swallowedinthesea11 are you seriously blaming this person?

[@OneBadAssMoMo]

@@swallowedinthesea11 wtf dude

[@Te-Rebel]

Omg just checked if you haven't uploaded and you have less than a minute ago.. needed my dose of Coffeehouse Crime...big fan of you and your empathetic nature towards the victims.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!!

[@BB-dr2zs]

Lol right I'm 30 minutes behind ya

[@selainemartina6580]

36 min behind😊

[@ApexHerbivore]

Empathic?

[@Aotearoa_Kiwi]

@@ApexHerbivore * _Empathetic_

[@aeartwork_]

"Her entire life was cut short over the fickle and temporary rage of an evil and stupid man." The content and delivery of that line really hits me.

[@sy_dianne5224]

This is why I never EVER walk around parks at night...you never know what psycho is lurking there and what they can do, in an unpopulated area

[@Abby-yj9zh]

she was walking in broad daylight!

[@sy_dianne5224]

@@Abby-yj9zh Ok, my understanding was that it was at night

[@sal_xoxo5166]

@@sy_dianne5224you were correct. She was walking through the park at night. She usually avoided it but this specific night she was running late and unfortunately chose to take a short cut through the park. Idk why people comment without knowing the facts 🤦🏻‍♀️ so damn loud and wrong 🙄

[@EM-df7wv]

It’s so sad (and sadly understandable) that you explained her reasoning for going through the park, like it needed justifying why she walked there… she, and all women, should be able to walk anywhere…

[@donnawatkins8404]

There was once a public service announcement here where I live concerning a rape crisis center. Their message was meant to be helpful I guess but it was pretty depressing. The message was, "We will be here for you always, forever". Forever? 🥺

[@romansroad777]

Jeez 🤦

[@EM-df7wv]

@@donnawatkins8404 That’s so bleak! 😥

[@addie_is_me]

I think he was just explaining her decision. What her choices were not saying she should not have been there. Adrian stressed over and over the randomness of the crime and that either route seemed safe during the day.

[@EM-df7wv]

@@addie_is_me I totally agree with you - as I said is understandable that he did that; wasn’t criticising Adrian at all. Was making a comment on how normalised it is when we hear stories like this for people to say “why was she walking there/alone/not on the phone” etc….

[@missamvmaker]

I'm a teacher who works relatively close to London. This case hit myself and my coworkers so hard. You should be safe to walk around any time but especially in a busy place during daylight!

[@beaulieuc8910]

@@acidheadzzz It means she can relate more, it brings it closer to home, more real.

[@justadreamerforgood69]

Nah, very few crimes are done during the day

[@silent.ukhtychannel5675]

@@acidheadzzz because she was a teacher

[@jillreyerma7592]

@@acidheadzzz It has nothing to do with the case on a technical level obviously, but they were relating from an emotional standpoint. It's much easier to imagine yourself in their shoes when you have something in common with the victim. The original commenter worked nearby and is also a teacher, therefore I'd imagine they can see themselves in her a lot and imagine themselves in a similar situation.

[@PureNightmare]

"Calm down and process his emotions like a man, or take his anger out on an innocent bystander" YES! Yes, yes yes! Processing emotions is so much more impressive/difficult that just being violent, and im so happy you phrased it like this. Stigma around men showing and processing emotions needs to stop

[@theentity5201]

Exactly, couldn't have said it better Its really hypocritical that society criticizes men for violence but expects it from them in a moments notice even at the risk of being killed whilst not considering themselves in the slightest

[@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826]

Yet for some reason violent men are never alone.

[@alexforce9]

@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 A woman is more likely to stick with a guy that slaps her, than with a guy that openly cry.

[@scheezy]

@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 What?

[@ry9348]

@@scheezy I wonder if he means not alone relationship wise? I am not too sure, but this my assumption? If this is the case, this wouldn't always hold to be true. I can see someone who doesn't realize their value being with abusive men. One may not know what abuse is because one may think that it is the norm. I didn't know what abuse was until I educated myself on it. Even in the old times, being hit with a ruler or a belt could of been seen as tough love. Luckily, times are changing and individuals are educating themselves. It won't be long for abusive and violent men to end up alone in their elder years because who wants to be around such behaviours in their elder days? I know someone who is abusive and has been alone. Basically pushed out everyone out by his behaviour. One may be able to use their looks or charm on someone young, but as one gets older, it gets difficult for individuals from the dark triad to be able to put in the effort of faking their behaviour. Eventually individuals will get tired of the treatment and leave. I have seen elderly turn worse in their old age. Examples of this is cases where they are put in the hospital for medical reasons or in a senior facility and they treat the staff horribly.

[@chanelledabbouss4029]

This scares me . I am planning on going to London for 10 days alone next year. Cases like this seriously have me re-evaluating

[@cdes1776]

I say go for it. In my early 20s I travelled to London and Cardiff alone. Didn't feel unsafe - even if straight off I saw a man walking with an axe during the day! I did trust my gut about decisions and money. Always stayed on the beaten path. You won't regret it.

[@Demondoink1]

Is it just me or does anybody else find it strange that nobody would heard anything taking place, in a small park when it was still light? Surely there would have been some screaming, commotion etc. Obviously it’s great that the perpetrator was caught but it sometimes surprises me that nobody would hear anything and without cctv this guy would have gotten away.

[@embadly]

Even if someone heard or saw something strange, doesn’t mean they would’ve called the police and reported it. I’ve seen so many instances of, for example, DV in public places and not one person called to report it. There was even a uhh I guess, idea these people had (idr who now) like a social experiment, to pretend to be arguing in public. All they got around them was a crowd that watched or just people who ignored it completely. Not everyone has common decency.

[@Demondoink1]

@@embadly Yeah that's a good point. It was just a thought that always arose in my mind whenever serious incidents happen in public areas and nobody seems to hear or see anything. I guess we are often listening to music, or distracted in some other way instead of being perceptive to what is going on around us.

[@embadly]

@@Demondoink1 no & you’re totally right. And you saying that in the first place shows the kind of character you have. But not everyone shares that same empathy or sympathy characteristic lol

[@Demondoink1]

@@embadly haha thanks! hope you have a happy new year :)

[@cdes1776]

The larger the city the larger the apathy.

[@Тим-о3н]

This case really reminds me of what is happening a lot in Mexico right now, women getting killed, just because they are women, this case hits different (As I have a Mexican girlfriend, and she could also be killed, because she is a woman, and if that happens, I am not sure what to do with life anymore)

[@sorandomthings2222]

take her out of mexico

[@beaulieuc8910]

Exactly, some men are attacking women 'just because they are women' and they feel entitled to do so. It is scary being a woman and a lone woman too.

[@happynappyable]

Sadly it’s not just in Mexico but femicide is a global problem.

[@Тим-о3н]

@Ifka Noloshu waa Allah. I am just glad she doesn't live in Baja California (Which is the extention of the state of California) because that area in Mexico is the most dangerous place there (She lives in Mexico city) I am happy she lives in a safe part of Mexico, because I can't imagine living without the person I always wanted to be with (We recently met, but I think she is the right person for me in a lot of ways)

[@oppressedaussiebattler3561]

@@Тим-о3н you have a Facebook girlfriend in Mexico? Lol

[@Areniapixie]

Such a senseless loss of life 💔 I really appreciate the work/research you do and the way you deliver it with so much compassion and empathy

[@ssmridha82]

Thanks for covering this case. When we Bangladeshi people learned about this one, it was so upsetting and enraging to say the least. In Bangladesh, there's a notion that women abroad are safer than us. But this just proves how vulnerable us women feel, everywhere, every day. I pray for Sabina's departed soul and her family.

[@nora4981]

The thing about London, it’s very multicultural… some demons that go there and other parts of the UK take their woman-hating ignorance with them and hurt the women there. I as an Asian woman myself don’t feel safe when I go there.

[@sharondeepsays3551]

Sadly we are safe nowhere 😢

[@alchapman4621]

It was upsetting for everyone not just Bangladeshis!!!!

[@fridgeffs5662]

This is just disgusting. Taking your anger at your wife out on a random human being. Anyone who takes their anger out by killing is absolutely never safe to be released from prison.

[@LadyBatCat]

Remember: when in a DV situation, perpetrators who strangle their victim are far more likely to make an attempt on their victim's life 43% of women who had been unalived by their partner had been strangled within the year before

[@SeeDaRipper...]

'Unalived' eh...New one on me.

[@Hiphop618]

Well maybe their odds would be better if they didn't get into a car with their abusive ex-husband just sayin'

[@davidjma7226]

@@SeeDaRipper... PC wonks are everywhere. Killed is the correct term.

[@albuquerquehotspot7835]

@@Hiphop618 she wanted the situation at her workplace to stop. Jesus Christ

[@Deep-dive-hustle]

Your choice of words is weird as fuck,the heck does unalive means

[@GilesWendes]

Absolutely incredible that they caught him from such little scraps of evidence. RIP Sabina.

[@beaulieuc8910]

yes, that was amazing CCTV can sometimes be so useful, glad we have a lot. It is pretty stupid he hadn't planned it that well.

[@fjack7013]

agreed. The UK Police get a lot of flak (often correctly) but they did a great job here. Credit where it's due!

[@vaitalv9361]

Technology is incredible these days. If this was in the 80’s or before, this guy would’ve easily gotten away with it. He himself was probably shocked he was caught within a week.

[@mombasa7]

@@fjack7013 Good police compared to the rest!

[@RosieWilliamOlivia]

@@mombasa7 no. They used to be but they are really pretty awful at this point.

[@MarinkaSea911]

God it’s so freaking sad that on the one time she decides to walk alone through that park she gets murdered. The fact that she usually doesn’t walk alone or through that park and does that one time. Man this world can be so freaking cruel!! 😖😣

[@laurastuart3814]

Not walking in secluded places in the dark is what our parents teach us from young.

[@12thDecember]

"an evil and stupid man" I hope Koci watches this video and understands that everyone agrees 100% with your comment.

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

I hope he doesn't get any internet access. Let him stare at a blank wall for the rest of his life.

[@BelchingBeaver69]

Not me

[@BelchingBeaver69]

I do NOT agree

[@BelchingBeaver69]

Also i’m NOT effing GAY wtf ?

[@doclewis8927]

Why's it always "offering advice to women" instead of telling "men to NOT commit acts of violence"? So tired of those in authority telling women how "not to be victims" when they should be telling criminals "we're coming for you".

[@lilxmiget]

What really gets to me is a woman in this day and age is unable to walk to a destination without harm or worse death! What really pisses me off still about this case is that Sabina never had coverage on the news like Sarah had. They both died at the hands of men simply walking somewhere. The media sucks 🤦‍♀️ R.I.P Sabina.

[@BelchingBeaver69]

It has always been this way throughout human history.

[@booshting3520]

This day and age ? Like it's ever been safe ? Sarah's case got media coverage because the people was a police officer

[@TGFLdn24]

Or even the two sisters murdered in the park near Wembley......but, I also understand the shock that a police officer had murdered a person had been something that media had to jump on (but we also know how it is when the race and class of the victim also gets more attention than others....)

[@nancytwinkle7677]

because she is not white

[@aarfdood]

Actually the vast majority of women are able to walk without being killed, only a fraction of a percentage will meet this fate. Statistically you're at a higher risk of a violent assault if you are male.

[@blobster91]

How do you recover from something like this? How and where do you derive the strength from? My heart breaks for everyone in this case and every other murder case.

[@e.b.4379]

What a repulsive monster. Took the life of a beautiful woman for absolutely no reason...RIP, Sabina!

[@e.b.4379]

@@Kelly-pp1et There was no rape in this case. I've looked into it. And there was no reason for her to be killed other than he was a violent psychopath.

[@tjoybell8448]

Her poor family. May they gain peace that surpasses all understanding. Women we need to listen to our gut feeling. If you have a strange feeling about a location or establishment listen to your gut.

[@linnadhiel2760]

During the periods of lockdown, there really seems to have a lot of cases like this. Unsure whether that's because of restrictions of violent men acting out, or because these things were more noticeable when we were all inside. There was a teenage girl murdered by her own family during the same period in my home town that shook everyone up in local area. Which, the area I grew up in was always a bit dodgy, especially the area where the girl lived, even so, murder is not really something that would happen around there, despite kind of people around. I just have a sense of fury and sadness and grief, so many women lose their lives in senseless ways. I always appreciate that you talk about these themes when talking about cases like this, I think its incredibly important. I hope everyone is doing well ♥

[@babayaga4320]

You're right she had the right to be walking alone that evening, but what you have a right to do, isn't always what you should be doing. I constantly tell my daughter to _never_ go anywhere alone at night, much less walk through a dark, secluded park. It's sad, but it's just not a safe world out there, especially for young women.

[@hamdaadh4670]

Thank you for covering this truly sad case, so recent and local to us in the UK. R.I.P

[@Truth-lx8pm]

2hats RIP, aren't u muslim lol. Inshallah she was on her way to drink, u sh7be praying for her soul, not following people saying rubbish like rip, shamefully learn islam silly girl

[@hamdaadh4670]

@@Truth-lx8pm You are shaming me for not acting "Islamic enough"? Instead of just giving me simple suggestion/ advice. That says a lot about your character, furthermore if you don't have anything nice to say don't bother talking to me. Shhhh

What a sad, heartbreaking end to a bright life and what a mind-boggling, absurd, tragic story. This is just unacceptable.

[@emilyanderson4359]

I crochet and drink coffee while I listen to your videos. Your content helps make my day better. I appreciate your approach very much - how you make the victim the focus and tell us about the things they loved to do. Have a great day, Adrian. It’s great watching your subscriber number climb.

[@lucymagee3654]

No wonder no one walks anywhere anymore!!! My God he was literally a monster! I don’t go anywhere on foot in the dark alone no way! What is with these men?????

[@lesflaya]

This is such a tragic and scary case. I know as a young woman myself sometimes you make those exceptions in your head "it's only 8 minutes, its not even dark yet, I'm running late," even when you feel uneasy and its in regards to your own safety.

[@ArinaPodolskaia]

"it didn't even occur to her friends that something sinister could've happened". I'm the friend that would IMMEDIATELY think something sinister has happened. Must be all the crime documentaries I watch....🤷

[@beaulieuc8910]

haha I agree, I am much more vigilant now

[@golden_leader9227]

Same here

[@0cean144]

Same 😬

[@petrosinella]

Lol, I guess her friends weren't into true crime. 🙂

[@ashleigh_whatever]

like wise, I give people 10 minutes to be late, and then I am ring everyone looking for your arse and then after an hour I'm ringing the police!

[@Ffeoli1039]

Not only am I often running late for work, I suck at keeping in touch with just about everyone in my life. If I go missing, it'll take forever for people to think something is wrong lol

[@beaulieuc8910]

If you don't turn up for work at all your workplace would start to question things.

[@Ffeoli1039]

@@beaulieuc8910 nope. "there goes Leon again" it's expected at this point

[@addie_is_me]

I always think that, but am pretty sure I’m safe, the victims are always reliable people, always answer their texts right away, are never late, have a big family who loves them and they are a loss to the community as a whole. I am none of those thing. Lol

[@Ffeoli1039]

@@addie_is_me lol. Spot on. The way you described it is exactly how I feel. All that and living alone are the daggers.

[@Connect_with_Yourself]

Are you close to your parents? I speak to my mum every day. If she doesn't hear from me by the end of the day, she calls me

[@nevertimetotryagain]

I'm afraid to walk through parks alone also, even during the daytime (unless there are a million people around). If I do it, then I'm super paranoid and constantly looking around. It's life as a woman.

[@beaulieuc8910]

I agree. Parks are scary places for lone women. I would also that being a lone man can be scary in parks too, my bf was followed by a male predator in a park from the men's toilets ie he was obviously followed. Even men get raped. I think being an 'easy target' is attractive to these male sexual predators, being alone, seems to be a common demonimator

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

Yes! It would be so amazing if we could just go for a simple walk and not feel deeply uncomfortable or have to be constantly on alert. I often want to get some fresh air and enjoy nature but there's often no one to go with so I end up not going. It's crazy how little control we have over the simplest things in our lives as women.

[@adrenalinestairz5068]

Where I live in Texas we have low crime rates. I remember a total of 4 murders in my 24 years of living here. I don't feel uneasy about being at the park or the river at night. I am always aware of my surroundings and what goes on around me. The guy that took this young lady's life is a psychotic monster. Just because he was angry doesn't give him the right to steal another person life. I would have been looking all around if I was in that park. I would have made eye contact with him. If he had attacked me I would have fought and gone right for his groin area and then his throat. I've learned something valuable about watching this channel. Criminals look for easy prey when selecting a person to attack. Helpful tips for everyone to cut down your chances of being a victim. 1) Be aware and alert of what's going on around you. 2) Be confident. 3) Make eye contact and let them know that you know they are around. 4) Go by your gut feeling. If something doesn't feel right get out of there. (Better safe than sorry) 5) If attacked assume you are fighting for your life and go for the eyes, throat, heart, groin, kneecaps etc. 6) Never give up. Make them feel that you're not worth the risk. I hope these tips help.

[@suzannetracy1005]

This one hurts me so deeply. As a woman how can anyone prepare and or have fear of an 8 minute walk in bustling London 😡 RIP absolutely gorgeous Sabina Nessa 🙏🙏 I cannot imagine the pain the family is feeling with this sick twisted cowardly mass of human cells. He’s not even worth calling a man.

[@KushQueen9]

This is honestly so sad. I never trust parks late at night....I cannot walk through them at all. I feel terribly uneasy and I always make sure my friends walk home safely and if it's really late we stay at each others place. Stay safe ladies and Rest peacefully Sweet Sabina 💖✨💖

[@jeneenakers8273]

Poor girl was just minding her own business and then someone kills her , wow what a world we live in seems no one is safe anymore !!!!R.I.P Sabina

[@LVD3NS]

>anymore We are safer than we have ever been lol

[@beaulieuc8910]

Yes, just being alone is enough to be overpowered by a man. I don't feel safe alone at all. I use a lot of public transport where there is plenty of CCTV, and learn situation awareness. I carry a lot of personal alarms and a whistle.

[@jeneenakers8273]

@@beaulieuc8910 Please stay safe !!! It feels like there is a war against women and something needs to be done about it !!!!!

[@bjk3922]

@@beaulieuc8910 I hate this is our reality. Sometimes I feel we live in some sort of zombie apocalypse, having to be indoors before dark, keeping weapons with us at all times. Except we're not having to fight for our lives from a zombie threat, but the threat of bad men

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

I'm not sure we were ever safe. You just hear about it more because of 24/7 access to all kinds of media.

[@antiquesrestoration3874]

So sick of "advice to women" being the emphasis regarding male violence. That's all good and well, but absolutely more emphasis needs to be on boys/men. They should bear equal, if not more, responsibility in this process! So glad London is one of the most video-taped cities in the world, which is certainly why this murderer was caught.

[@theentity5201]

It's kind of hypocritical that men are criticized for their violence but expected to be capable of it and enjoy it to an extent. If not they are humiliated for being "weak" in fact a weak male is far more likely to be struck and beat and the perpetrator is unlikely to pull punches. Almost as if to say "you deserve this for being so weak" Gotta remember, men are pushed around and seen as disposable by society, it's not as nice to them as they are to women. Men are accustomed to abuse and expected to just deal with it while respect is far higher in prerequisite for women

[@donnawatkins8404]

@@theentity5201 Men are admired for their strength not their violence. Yes, men are expected to be strong and capable to defend when necessary, that is the beauty of a man. Being masculine means family feels safe to have strength in their corner.

[@mistalanga]

If a person is intentially prepared to attack another person, would you agree that they are a damaged individual? If its mainly men that are perpetrators of violent crime, you gotta ask, why are more men damaged individuals. Potentially the way some men are raised is sub par, perhaps mental health issues in men aren't talked about in certain families and cultures. This doesn't take anything away from monsters like these cases highlight being present, and condemning their actions. But most men are not these men.

[@TimSmith-ne5zs]

A snub nose goes a long way for having such a shot barrel. If more women had .38 specials in their pockets society would improve

[@trossk]

@@TimSmith-ne5zs I don't think you can carry in London. Plus they were going out so couldn't carry to a bar anyways.

[@MsTemptation]

Wow. That poor young woman was just minding her own damn business until that piece of human feces decided to murder her. Then the coward didn’t want to face her family and friends in court so he changed his plea to guilty. Hopefully someone in prison will give him a taste of his own medicine. R.I.P Sabina.😔

[@sebgold5841]

Refuse to show up at his hearing? He should have been dragged to court by his unmentionable...

[@Merissa5150]

“Sabina had every right to be walking alone that evening without any fear…” 17:19 LOUDER!! We have the right to walk anywhere at any time! We have the right to be SAFE! But there’s too many people like this in the world. Unfortunately it was Sabine this time. There have been way too many before her. There have been many more since. And there will be countless more in the future if nothing is done to keep us safe! 😓

[@divinedevil]

Women safety is an important & urgent issue across the world, but not enough is being done about it. Mandatory self-defence training in schools would at least give them a fighting chance. RIP Sabina!

[@jaysmom1sr]

Also, mandatory training in schools for self control, proper emotional management, and respect towards women would teach boys to keep their hands to themselves and help to reduce violence towards women.

[@potato6436]

@@jaysmom1sr -🤓

[@giveaf9370]

In another world where schools taught people how to be people instead of complicity and subservience.

[@divinedevil]

@Isabella 🔥 if you can't differentiate between "women safety is a real problem" & " ALL MEN are a problem" then it's a comprehension issue with you. Another example; "Men getting scammed by gold diggers is a real problem" & " All women are gold diggers". Do you think both these statements are saying the same thing? Hope this gives a little clarity. Enough said!

[@divinedevil]

@Isabella 🔥 now I'm certain you have comprehension issues. If all men aren't responsible then women shouldn't take precautions or self defence training? What kind of screwed up logic is that? If all men aren't thieves, then don't install security cameras... Right? If all women aren't gold diggers then stop taking measures against being scammed... Right? I guess you'd like everyone man & women to become thieves & gold diggers before we do something about it... Right? 🤣🤣🤣

[@gingersnapps]

I'm wondering why they arrested the 2 men they initially thought were the culprits? What made them believe it was them ?

[@tradeladder146]

Who cares, they caught the Killer.

[@sefparas]

As a father, i'm always worried for my daughter as we're living in a dangerous world. Thank you for these videos, they keep me occupied while working. If you're interested in covering a case from the Philippines, please do the Visconde massacre. Or from Italy, the case of Serena Mollicone.

[@golden_leader9227]

Serena Mollicone's case left me so, so upset and sad. My maternal grandpa is from the same town and he knew her father (who unfortunately passed away without having any justice for his daughter). He tried to reach a conclusion for many many years, failing. Good choice, i would love for Adrian to cover her case.

[@Connect_with_Yourself]

@@golden_leader9227 Please tell me what happened to her

[@golden_leader9227]

@@Connect_with_Yourself It's a really long story, unfortunately. KZbin comments are not the best for narrating 20 years of findings and suspects. We can find a more appropriate channel of communication, if you want ^^

[@plymouthrock5281]

what a job you must have to be able to watch these whilst you're suppose to be working. How the other half lift

[@hopkinstreeexperts759]

The fact that they don’t allow weapons to be carried has undoubtably caused numerous assaults

[@jessicaa697]

Omg I live in the UK and I hadn't heard of this story. Absolutely awful. Such a beautiful young lady 😢💔

[@ruththinkingoutside.707]

Thanks Adrian! Appreciate your hard work! Congrats on all your success.. you absolutely deserve it 😊😊

[@98765432139267]

This is heart braking! My sister goes off with her friends all the times and my parents are always on the edge until she come back. I can’t imagine what this parents are going through

[@alexforce9]

Statisticaly speaking - a woman is more in danger from her husband or some ex, than she is to get hurt from a stranger.

[@dcfdrummer]

We, as human beings, must eliminate those non human but monsters. Not feed them. Not shelter them. We shall eliminate them. Death Penalty for cold blood murderers, psycopaths, rapists and so on. RIP Sabina. You will always be remembered.

[@mama2bebes]

In cases such as this, guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, we should have a special kind of prison...a dungeon rather...a dank hole in the ground where deranged murderers are left to rot and they would have to fight for the rats and roaches if they want to eat. No health care, no books, no gym equipment, no art supplies.

[@Sputterbug]

removing their humanity downplays the severity of their crimes. they ARE human. never forget that humans can be terrible

[@thegreencat9947]

Get them out of the gene pool.

[@wariannn1253]

Agreed

[@miap6844]

Bless you, Sabina. What a magnificent woman we have lost.

[@vivekmalhotra3330]

What a pleasant young narrator...so clear exacting & brilliant in the way he speaks & narrates his real life episodes. Great work.

[@NorrisVaughn]

Do people in London just forget there are cameras everywhere?

[@beaulieuc8910]

Yes, it is so weird. They are certainly risk takers, perhaps enjoying the risk and if they do get caught, the male would live it up for days in jail

[@mrdavisdance]

I used to live in downtown Indianapolis and the one time I walked my dog late at night there was a couple homeless guys hanging out in the ally behind my apartment. One called me over the second they saw me, and the other put his hand on his shoulder and shook his head "no". I really wonder what would have happened if I were a lone woman instead of a large man with a pit bull that night

[@Mori-gt2ip]

First! Another case is here! What a creeper, this guy is damaged! Sex isn't everything but he killed that girl because his ex rejected him? Seriously, take no for an answer and move on!

[@avlavjavjo7634]

You should cover the case of Jill Maher in Melbourne, Australia. It’s a very similar story unfortunately.

[@kathleenconte3360]

Jill Maher's case depicts that parole from prison needs updating and changes here in Australia. Her case is not the only one that suggests changes to the system needs to occur.

[@rommi3xx429]

A case from my hometown. I remember when it happened there was such a disbelief this had happened. Devastation.. anger... sandy Bedfordshire is a really quiet small place. It was a shock this happened to someone let alone someone from such a close knitt community. ❤ Thank you for covering this case

[@Rodviet]

I love the care you put into discussing the victim before the crime, it’s really nice.

[@GreenOrbee]

I can't help but hope that his estranged wife doesn't feel responsible for Sabrina's death

[@CatTechSupport]

There is a big difference between being safe and feeling safe. - Beings safe is you having a plan to deal with a threat coming at you. - Feeling safe is thinking you have nothing to fear. You can be safe yet feel like you are in constant danger: so again being safe and feeling safe are two different things.

[@preacherbeeman3437]

The answer to how a young lady can protect herself when alone, is not popular with many. There is a small weapon that makes the weakest person able to stop the strongest aggressor.

[@lvmaara4117]

I hope that actual closed captions get added in the near future! As someone with auditory processing issues, lots of these cases have fast paces and words I need to see to process and auto captioning is not the best!

[@uwpride]

The closed captions work perfectly for me and are accurate

[@addie_is_me]

Oh, the auto generated ones are almost useless! I’m sure they will eventually get better, but for now they truly suck.

[@addie_is_me]

@@uwpride Well, La-Dee-Da for you. 🙄😂

[@uwpride]

@@addie_is_me Why be arrogant? What does that do for you? The auto generated captions worked perfectly fine for me and as I stated already they were accurate

[@boredom3646]

I’m deaf and I need it as well. I don’t like automatic subtitles because I don’t know if it’s accurate all the time.

[@venesaromero5956]

Was so worried when there wasn’t a new Monday video! Glad to see ya!! ♥️♥️

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

I'm still here! Only one video this week which gave me the chance to drink lots of cider and stumble around the hills of Cheddar (yes, the cheese is named after that place) but back to two a week next week!!

[@pixiememe]

@@CoffeehouseCrime Ha! I've been there a couple of years ago. Great place!

[@justjenny581]

I thought I was losing it, coz I plan my life around these videos and I kept checking the days lol

[@unquietriot8019]

Thank you, Adrian, for reinforcing that women are not to blame for the despicable acts of the men who attack them. Greatly appreciated

[@JasonT850]

I think anyone who viciously and purposefully murders another human, they should in NO way, be given the chance at parole. It should be an automatic life in prison with no parole.

[@bluesorbliss4331]

I'm from Bangladesh and it breaks my heart for Sabina. Rest in peace sister. This was such an unnecessary, senseless and brutal act of violence. This monster deserves 10 times the pain he inflicted on her.

[@Tomy_Yon]

Adrian, the amount of time, research, editing is put in these videos is astounding. Keep up the great work, but please promise us to unwind on a regular basis too... ❤️

[@verukasault9065]

Congrats, Adrian, on 1 million subs!! That's awesome and amazing how fast it happened. But also no surprise bc your content is top tier. Thank you for all your superb vids. ❤😃👍🏻

[@suereeves5994]

I'm glad you covered this sad case, lesser known but just as deserving of airtime. A great girl just doing her best each day and runs up against a predator. They should not walk amongst us.

[@redda2]

I'm sure if it was a white girl, would've been on the TV 24/7

[@kaihunter5243]

@@redda2 this is not the place to make a comment like that

[@hjt5894]

I bought a flat next to that park in 2016 and walked my dogs in that park at 6am every day. It always seemed really safe to me and I loved living there. This is such a scary senseless tragedy so close to home for me.

[@horacehalt4216]

Try to mix up your routine a bit. The thing about keeping a fixed schedule, while it's great discipline, if someone wanted to hurt you, this would make it very easy for them.

[@laurenb7094]

Thank you so much for covering this case and sharing this story. As a woman living in London in her late 20’s I’m ashamed to say that I’ve never really heard the full story of what happened to Sabina. Her story did not have the mass coverage like the case of Sarah Everard. As usual you covered this with such respect to Sabina. ♥️

[@eastonjames6582]

Hello how are you doing today

[@SwedePotato314]

@@eastonjames6582 gross

[@potato6436]

Because Sarah everard got 360 no scoped by a police looooooool

[@Connect_with_Yourself]

@@eastonjames6582 Yes gross. You're trying to pick up women on a forum that focuses on women's safety. Not the right time or place dude

[@user-es4zw1yh2l]

I remember seeing this on the news, so sickening… I hope her family will be able to find peace one day

[@alfiekeeling9213]

I really love how you religiously post a new episode when you say you’re going to. Not too many you tube channels do that. RIP Sabrina. Love and prayers to her family. Lots of love from Stoke on trent, England x

[@rullmourn1142]

His ex-wife is also a victim because now she has to live with her friends and other individuals disgust at what he did, and they will also view her differently than they once did. That's how people are.

[@nikobellic570]

I read another comment that she emigrated. Can't blame her

[@cametochangemyusername-can1295]

This is the exact reason I don't enjoy the things that many do and take for granted. Like taking peaceful relaxing hikes or solo drives into the wilderness. As an introvert those things would really energise me and relax me. Help me clarify and focus my thoughts. But- I don't want to die. So, I don't enjoy these things. So sad for all. ❤

[@Skaatje]

When I think of London I think of poluted air, hellish noise, crime and drunk chavs. But a good way to find out if you are save somewhere is this checklist: Are there any humans? Then you are not save!

[@Alexechan]

im not completely through the episode but I just gotta say ive actually been in that dog walkers shoes. I was working security for a property that had a patch of grass and trees between some buildings. Homeless folks would make camp in it and behind the property. I was paid garbage wages but it was part of my job to scoot them along. I was generally respectful because its easier to be kind than to be an asshole. I worked at night there not soon after my shift started I did my first full check of the property. Noticed some bare feet sticking out from some bushes. it was cold so I was immediately concerned. called out and they didn't move. Walked closer and called out again. Flashed my flashlight but couldn't see into the bush, only the feet sticking out. I remember the panic I felt realizing what I might have walked in on. After what felt like an eternity of calling out (which was really all of 30 seconds probably) the bush rustled and a guy crawled out. He was really out of it and wandered off. Spanaway, WA is a wild place and that site was wild experience. That is not the only crazy story to come from that site in the 6 months I worked it.

[@PeaceLoveHonor]

Let's all remember to change the narrative on violence against women - ask men to be proactive in how they expect those around them to show respect for women, etc. instead of telling women to be careful about how and where they walk and dress. There's a longstanding toxic culture that needs work to be overcome. The focus should be on the disgusting behavior of the offender, not the women as "vulnerable victims." Thanks, Adrian- good job as always!

[@lr6477]

Ugh said like a true hippie. Please do not give advice, you live in Lalaland. There will never not be killers, us women need to change our own behaviour or suffer the consequences. But keep on dreaming.

[@taposherabeya7857]

@@lr6477 facts

[@aarfdood]

Carry a gun regardless of the law. And not in your stupid purse.

[@kaceycruz3870]

These are clearly people who are not right in the head. No matter how many people will tell them it’s not right to rape, hurt and kill, they’ll still do it. This is not a matter of more education.

[@auggies1able]

so senseless a loss of life. may her family find some peace with this grief. 🙏🏽

[@alisondawson5116]

I am 60 years old, female and all my life I have always followed a few rules. One, always have enough money to get home, on you own if you have to. Even with a best friend, things can happen, I have always had the taxi fair home, now of course we have Uber drivers, they are cheaper too. Two, I have never, ever, walked anywhere of a night on my own. I see women do this all the time, walking along the street of a night. A big no, no ! Three, never, leave a drink unattended. When I was younger, single and going out to clubs, pubs etc, you could always leave your drink on the table when you went for a dance or the loo. I would never do that now, ever. Also now we have mobile phones, got to be a good thing. They can track signals from towers etc. like it or no, we live in a wicked society and there are some real grubs around. Make some rules, always stick to them and please God, always make it to your destination safely, Bless. 🥰🥰🇦🇺🇦🇺xoxox

[@sysye]

I live in London and although I would like to go out at night more often I just don't feel safe. It's so sad. Rip Sabina

[@arniemali]

Grow some backbone you will be fine

[@mii-aaax]

@@arniemali growing a backbone doesn’t make you immune from getting attacked or murdered ffs

[@arniemali]

@@mii-aaax so what do you suggest girl power more protection and self defense yh?

[@mii-aaax]

@@arniemali Uhh yeah. Learning self defense and implementing more protection on the streets, ESPECIALLY at evening/nighttime can greatly turn the odds into the victim’s favour. It won’t prevent all murders from happening obviously, but it can improve the odds.

[@Kasemia13]

I am sorry but I see so many things that could have been prevented: 1. The hotel should have called the police or the wife if they were making customers uncomfortable 2. Wife should have had this man in jail if he choked her before their divorce 3. The friends should have known something was up if their friend didn’t answer phone calls or reply to text messages