THE TRASH TASTE TOURNAMENT ARC | Trash Taste

[@stealthy25_]

In one episode Connor pulls 2 top tier out of context lines: "Terrorism is based" "You know what's cooler? Anime Hitler."

[@wakads921]

they are freedom fighters

[@ginger0403]

​@@wakads921or in words of the government "terrorists"

[@dontshootmex5588]

​@@wakads921That was a great video game

[@Aco2Draco]

timestamp?

[@antoninperron1307]

@@Aco2Draco 1:10:13 you're welcome

[@ManuelMejia15]

Connor's face while Joey and Garnt are arguing about Bocchi the Rock is killing me 😂

[@Saz103]

Literally he is the meme,”If I speak I am in big trouble”, lmao

[@atharvjadhav445]

Same as joey while Connor and grant arguing about food

[@aestheticdogg613]

"They hated him(Joey) for telling the truth"

[@Vladrafael14]

he's saying to himself this "Could anyone kill me right now"

[@bobjones2959]

Literally 😐

[@DiiaBloodyRain]

Trash Taste then: "We hate tournament arcs!" Trash Taste now: "We have a tournament arc!"

[@IlloyedKater]

The true first trash taste tournament arc was the chess tournament.

[@camden2051]

Their first special was a tournament arc

[@nightsky2165]

Garnt loves tournament arcs

[@lucienolongerhuman8298]

Garnt is tournament arc biggest fan

[@jj112499]

Running out of ideas it seems

[@kameo4174]

The way Gigguk talks about anime, i swear he could sell me an empty box.

[@HANIMEME]

thats why hes the goated anituber, might not be as funny as demolition D or Scamboli but he puts he heart into it (and doesn't overdo it like John)

[@ryana5435]

⁠@@HANIMEME john? You mean super eyepatch wolf?

[@ryana5435]

But Garnt is so bad at live arguing. He didn’t say the point that why he think BtR is better than K-ON is BtR actually showed a lot of realistic part of band and performance and practices other than drinking tea all the time but good at various songs

[@DrJones0801]

@@ryana5435 I mean he wasn't comfortable recording without a script until a few years ago, and the man has been on youtube almost since the beginning, so I think he gets a pass.

[@subtoserratemc]

​@@ryana5435It is much more difficult to argue abt an anime with THE anime man then one might think,plus during a live argument it is significantly more difficult to think of points and i think he did pretty well defending his ideology of what he thinks BTR is abt as presenting that is much more important than to say, convince someone into watching a show that they dislike

[@realkingofantarctica]

This episode was actually first planned over two years ago. They just had to put it on hold until Garnt watched Full Metal Alchemist.

[@kingdoom5022]

FMAB is amazing , it didn't get no.1 for long time for nothing

[@gryphon4150]

@@kingdoom5022 I mean, I watched it. Thought it was alright. A good 8/10. Don't understand why people rate it so highly though.

[@nanoff815]

​@@gryphon4150The manga is better. Actually though. The manga has great pacing. The weakest part of Brotherhood, the first 13ish episodes are way better and expanded in the manga.

[@gsorestes9933]

@@gryphon4150 8/10 is a great score though, alright is more like a 6

[@gryphon4150]

@@gsorestes9933 I mean, I just said 8/10 so I didn't have fmab fanboys jump me. Realistically, I rate it a 6.5/10 because the start is miserably boring and a lot of ways villains are beaten is really stupid, and a lot of the endgame feels like it came from a filler episode, especially Sloth. His introduction and defeat was so underwhelming that the only reason I remember him was because he did pretty much nothing the entire anime.

[@WiggyJiggyJed]

"it's just a K-On clone" Joey when a show is about a band

[@machintosh3008]

By that logic K-On is a BECK clone. And BECK is just a Nirvana clone. And Nirvana is just a every other fucking band that ever existed clone.

[@kuro._aert]

the fact that he's the most in touch with music

[@Animedia21]

I think Joey did Bocchi dirty when he said the music was mid 😢.

[@kiwoxgen9929]

He has solid argument 😏 As a person involved a lot in music Compared to majority of bocchi fans that spoiled by anisong 24/7 🏃

[@ReleaseZeKrakken]

Joey just has really bad taste. Bocchi music is way better than K-On.

[@ToonGohan]

joey tries to clear his name on jjk and immediately pisses off bocchi fans 😂

[@AdindaPangeran-qd8jo]

Calling bocchi song's mid just made him the enemies of bocchi fans

[@ayss2611]

He made enemies out of both of the fanbase lmao

[@lupolinar]

Fans are stupid

[@KaitoBravo]

Joey: I'm a music connoisseur Also Joey: Bocchi soundtrack is mid The audacity

[@bochibochi9990]

It's fine. They are too socially anxious to go after him

[@MikeyDLuffy]

Connor being the ultimate HxH enjoyer just puts a smile to my face. He was fighting the good fight

[@stevenchen9852]

I mean I literally fell asleep watching Gurren lagann. Tf is about that show that makes it good. I

[@Plunkcown]

@@stevenchen9852 skill issue

[@yongisverycool]

yea its definitely a little slow and feels fillery at first but the moments later on r so well crafted and its just peak motivation imo

[@koks49045]

I like gurren lagann but vs HxH there is not contest. There is basicly 1 main thing goin on in TTG when it comes to themesL, its only 27 and some of them feel like filler where as HxH has so many different arcs and they all insane, it's obvious number 1 show ever. Creating something like HxH is way harder than TTGL

[@MSCSage]

there is no way where HxH is not in the final against Vinland, i cant believe they think that TTGL is the better show. HxH has some of thie highest peaks in all of Anime

[@V.F.D.DaleSalvador]

Joey "I love the drunk bassist" Mudan: Shows Ryo

[@Red-mg4ro]

Give it a few years.

[@Rust1809]

​@@Red-mg4ro That's depressing 🙂

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

@@V.F.D.DaleSalvador Mudan has excellent taste

[@Sharkofspace]

He probably just googled "Bocchi the Rock bassist" and put the first result on screen.

[@daisybrain9423]

also played the wrong soundtrack from code geass

[@DouggieDaDucker]

Garnt: "You've seen musicians who are stage frightened at first but then shred it up on stage!" Joey immediately forgets Garnt's battle of the bands story Joey: "Nah"

[@elmatador2139]

That's my only problem with Joey's criticisms of Bocchi. Half his criticisms are that this thing that happens in Bocchi would never happen in real life when it happens all the time in real life. He's allowed to dislike or hate the show but I would rather he didn't discredit that people are different from him and have different experiences than him. My social anxiety has always affected me and I relate to pretty much everything in the show to a lesser extent, having said that I recognise my social anxiety has never been that bad compared to some others. so if my 'not that bad anxiety' can mostly relate to Bocchi, then someone whose anxiety is that bad would be as bad as Bocchi.

[@mikeyman302]

It’s also funny that he brings up Carlos Santana. One of his most famous and breakout performances was at Woodstock when he wasn’t even suppose to play. He took acid since he was told he wasn’t going to play but then the person who was playing backed out. He then had to get on stage tripping and incredibly nervous. He went up on stage and killed it, the rest is history

[@magic_cfw]

@@elmatador2139 tbf, joey in general is dismissive of experiences outside his own.

[@dylives7667]

Joey has yet to hit 30 and is already becoming senile 💀

[@ettoreozzy9932]

The takes "You expect me to believe that shit would actually happen though? and "K-ON is the development of all the characters coming together after their differences and trying to create a band. Is exactly the same. Except K-ON the characters aren't insufferable like Bocchi are" I really don't understand Joey at all. I'm in the same boat as Garnt here where to me K-ON didn't do it and Bocchi is the K-ON done right. Joey can dislike Bocchi but I can't understand how he likes K-ON and argues theses things on Bocchi. Characters in K-ON don't have differences they have to overcome in order to create a band, they are just brought to the club and just eat sweets and drink tea. They do that so much to the point where I wonder when they practice to even be able to perform. Specially when Yui is kinda just forced into it when she didn't even played an instrument. And characters not being insufferable I don't get it since K-ON has Yui, which calling her an air head is a complement since her head has vacuum of space on it. And worse she infects other characters with her lack of brain cells. "that would never happen" yeah Joey because people using the money from sold guitars to use for their music club would CLEARLY mean to use the money to buy a turtle as a kouhai and a new member of the club. Yes that happens... Like do you even remember K-ON??? The turtle thing made me completely drop the second season of K-ON since that reached my limited specially since the teacher ended being okay with it, not only that all the other members needed to approve such an a idea that Yui proposed. Sure Bocchi is the embodiment of all social anxiety and problems but we at least see improvement on it and the animation used to express such a thing is done in a unique and funny way.

[@shotviii]

cant wait for them to say the most batshit insane takes humanly possible

[@newbie4789]

Oh yeah, "Bocchi the rock has shit Soundtrack" ~ Joey ☠️

[@kirtapk95]

Yeah....sometimes i really do feel like "are these guys anime-snobs or am i just delusional" with their takes...

[@MNTNHMESMO]

"No one has anxiety like that" -TheMangaLad.

[@iPancake3]

@@kirtapk95 Garnt is the only one who really tries to understand the stories and give proper criticism. Connor and Joey just have opinions.

[@saivamshiatukuri151]

​@@newbie4789it doesnt have shit soundtrack but K-on is definitely better. The only joey take I agree instead of gigguk

[@AllEyezSee]

25:29 "the reason WHY is cause Bochhi can’t uhh do Domain Expansion." 😂😂😂

[@Ryocniel]

BREAKING NEWS: Joey "The Anime Man" Bizinger has clarified that he does, in fact, NOT hate Jujutsu Kaisen. This is in response to an ongoing dispute between Bizinger and anime Twitter. Our on-site reporter tells us both parties have unanimously agreed to end this conflict once and for a- hold on, apparently Bizinger has made a new comment; stating that he thinks Bocchi The Rock has "mid" music. He is currently being chased off-site with pitchforks. Give him hell, boys! Edit: this is for the funnies, people; not an attack. We like Joey. Go easy on him.

[@granv3000]

I watched k-on and although I enjoyed it I in fact do not remember a single song, actually I remember not liking them that much. Now Bocchi has some bangers

[@CC-mf9le]

underrated comment

[@marcog.verbruggen674]

also, the fact that Joey "doesn't believe anyone has as much anxiety as Bocchi" or that he doesn't believe someone can go from pissing and crying with stage fright to breaking it down like a god once they're in their element, shows that Joey clearly has never talked to someone with anxiety. It took my gf like 3 years to get on a bus without having a hysteria attack. I mean sure it's exaggerated in Bocchi but it's almost like it's anime or something....

[@I.disagree]

I love how Garnt was arguing against the stage-confidence being unrealistic since I 100% experience that effect as well

[@ryana5435]

@@marcog.verbruggen674 Joey is so boyish, he doesn’t have empathy and sympathy

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

They actually tryna turn this into an Anime podcast these last few months.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Some of the takes are so bad I wish they went back

[@Bacxter]

@@rumplstiltztinkersteinIs the podcast reflecting the name yet in your opinion?

[@N.I.C21]

they always talk about anime or at least japan related stuff. idk why they pretend its not an anime podcast

[@kook3585]

​@@rumplstiltztinkerstein i mean, its in the name 😂

[@malclmhexed5978]

@@Bacxterit’s trash taste not trash TAKES

[@sean1000-7]

Guys, I think Joey hates Jujutsu Kaisen.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

I don't think he hated it until the fanbase got on him for saying it was ok

[@hankocpharung1383]

I mean it’s just your average shonen. It’s hype but it’s tiring. It’s good, it’s not the greatest.

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

@@hankocpharung1383Gege has been making a super different and well written shounen for the longest time, but you guys read “shounen” and think it’s basic

[@mohammedraihaaan2251]

@@hankocpharung1383 you can anything abt jujutsu kaisen but tiring lmao , yeah it is dumb shonen but its so goddamn entertaining

[@Kuch303]

Joey : I think jujutsu kaisen is fine but not amazing jjk fans : omg Joey hates jjk !!

[@a_culturedman8281]

Joey saying Bocchi's sound track is ass made me feel that the name of the podcast fit really well for the first time in a while.

[@alz397]

He said mid lol he didn’t say they were ass

[@salman6254]

Why doesn’t Connor just watch Welcome to the NHK? That’s like exactly what he wants Mushoku tensei to be. No Isekai, just a terrible shut-in trying to become a real person.

[@agustinbaigorria7032]

NHK is so good

[@Saturnius]

Yeah. A huge part of why Mushoku ended up being an isekai is because the author wanted to meet where a lot of the flawed were. The boom in isekai escapism was based on the central premise that they would be based chads if only they had the chance to be reincarnated into another world, and Mushoku tensei just straight up shows how, no, you'd still be the way you are but you have a chance to better by doing the same things that you can do in our own world here and now. This point flies over the heads of people like it's a stealth bomber.

[@OnchiBon]

To me it feels like such a non-argument to ask why it has to be in isekai form if the story is about a person bettering himself. It's just the packaging of the narrative. It doesn't reduce or subtract from the core narrative in any way and usually it's the people who just have a problem with MT for its more controversial moments who seem to have an issue with it being isekai.

[@gundam42d64]

@@OnchiBon Funny enough Conner has the same issue with Oshi No ko

[@matheusjezini]

Can someone try to explain to me why Welcome to the NHK is so good? It's SO bad, like incredibly frustrating bad. It isn't one guy making the hard decisions to better himself or having the discipline, it's jlthe world giving him second chances CONSTANTLY when he doesn't deserve any with the stupid trope of having a random cute savior girl follow you around because of this random convenient reason we thought of. ​@agustinbaigorria7032

[@Amaling]

Joey when anime protagonists are exaggerated extroverts to the point of absurdity: 😴 Joey when anime protagonists are exaggerated introverts to the point of absurdity: 😡 🤬

[@Bacxter]

Dude just wants some good and normal characters.

[@Amaling]

@@BacxterTTGL got second place and he would’ve had one piece win it all what are you on about lol

[@valhallakombi7239]

@@Bacxter The comment you are replying to is literally comparing the hyper exaggeration of Gurren Lagann to Bocchi. Kamina is NOT "good and normal". He is same level of exaggeration in the extrovert scale to Bocchi in the introvert scale

[@Bacxter]

@@Amaling like I said normal and good lol

[@oomay1925]

@@Amaling unless it's dark and deep (edgy)

[@Cpach27]

Garnts explanation at 58:00 about Rudy reminds me of a MHA discusion that was had on Reddit. It was about how alot of people just can not forgive Endeavor despite him trying his best to fix his broken family that he caused. BUT people can easily forgive a character like Vegeta who was a straight up villian who's done awful stuff like destroy civilizations, blow up planets, kill innocent people, make stupid choices that led to bigger problems and had a hand in the death of the z fighters. Kinda like what Garnt said. Endeavors situation is just too real and hits a little too close to people so people find it so much harder to forgive him.

[@crocoboi7936]

It’s such a fascinating concept in stories for example itachi is a WIDELY beloved character in Naruto even though he committed genocide and heavily worsened his brothers life. You would think he would be hated but because it’s not a commonly relatable situation no one bats an eye.

[@c4ptaintuttle276]

I can't say anything about MHA But the reason I dislike the character of Rudi is that he is a 30 year old who get reborn and decides to become a pedophile. Thorfinn is a kid that grows up in war and hate, you can understand why he acts like that.

[@c4ptaintuttle276]

@@edward-howick I can't remember that it was ever showed in the past that he was a pedophile. It was just suddenly after he was reincarnated , also he had a lot of time to reflect in a pretty decent environment. But after 13 years of time to think and 32 years of life experience before and he still didn't change and was a pedophile. Also the way minor girls are just sexually displayed for cheap Fan service is awful. I really liked the first season of mushuko tensei. Even with the problems I mentioned before.

[@victory1014]

@@edward-howick My issue with the show comes down to presentation. Idk if this make sense, but the show treats his behavior as too normal. Like it lets him be a creep and kinda rewards it.

[@r3.4ct]

I'm just glad Rudeus didn't look at Julie the way he looked at Eris and Sylphie when they were younger. So far we haven't seen that Rudeus in S2 and hopefully never again

[@synthiandrakon]

I think one thing that immediately sets fmab from other shounen is that it's complete. That feels so fucking rare, it doesn't have a million episodes, it's not ongoing, it's just a show you can sit down and watch which is like unbelievably rare

[@Asic229]

To me the only thing keeping it from being literally perfect is that it tries to hard to stay a shonen instead of letting itself dig into seinen territory. Every time the story covers a really dark topic, it feels the need to inject humor which feels out of place. But I think the story in a vacuum is absolutely perfect.

[@theneekofficial8829]

@@Asic229 honestly i feel like that fits though, like irl, would you not make jokes to remove the seriousness out of a situation to make it easier to deal with? ik i do it with my friends when we've all struggled with *those* kind of self 💀 thoughts and we all joke about it because it makes it easier to deal with

[@Asic229]

@theneekofficial8829 I mean my favorite series are all seinens, like berserk, monster, and mudoku magica, so I'm probably just not the target audience. But no, I love when media dips into extremely dark topics, and it feels out of place when a series capable of a dark tone forces unrealistic character interactions into super serious situations.

[@Kalakeiko]

And the fact that FMAB is/was written by a woman is another win for me and makes it even more cool and significant in my opinion.

[@ganymedehedgehog371]

@@Asic229I agree some stuff could have been made deeper by becoming more mature but it didn’t have to. That small high of increasing the maturity would be at the expense of the rest of story, pacing and themes. Your complaint is like complaining a romantic anime doesn’t have hardcore h scenes. There’s no going back when you increase the age rating on something.

[@rotomRASENGAN]

05:51 I nominate “Terrorism is based” for “Best Out of Context Clip” for next year’s Trash Taste Awardw.

[@knaditya8228]

And right next to it, “do you know what’s better terrorism with friends “

[@toyaashizawamusic]

We also need. Let’s colonize -cdawg

[@royalfun1031]

So One Piece

[@mwalter98]

nelson mandela was on us list of terrorists, overall most progressive figures were viewd as terrorists by us gov

[@yakitatefreak]

Connor: "They're terrorists... They call themselves Freedom Fighters" Britain in 1776: *Calls the 13 colonies "Terrorists"* Americans in the 1770's: *You've activated my patriotism. We're fighting against the tyranny of King George III*

[@eclipse1161]

Joey’s takes on Bocchi will dominate the next “Hottest takes” nominations.

[@newbie4789]

Yeah😂

[@sg-te9pu]

Lmao

[@Ash_Wen-li]

They didn't clarify but if he actually meant "Yorknew wasn't good" that dominates

[@gellal1]

feel like its just for the bait sake lol

[@CM-dx6xu]

Absolutely malevolent take lmao Utter dumpster take from joey 😂

[@hoby99]

The boys have uploaded, time to wash the dishes

[@c0ffeelatt3]

lol

[@Theywantthedro]

Saaaame

[@The100ss]

Whoa- Someone does the same exact thing as me when a new episode comes out-

[@speedwagon6-e1b]

Washing dishes feel too short now

[@aliffaiman614]

How many dishes that u have to wash for the span of 2 hours lol?

[@leonmayne797]

‘Do I want adrenaline or depression.’ Attack on Titan: ‘I got you covered.’

[@pandacrafty]

TTGL: I have to admit mob, you're the best anime of your decade Mob Pyscho: Oh, thank you TTGL: But I ain't from your decade, am I?

[@RobenoidQzap]

Damn lol

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

Really speaks volumes about jjk’s story that Connor, the guy that skips cutscenes and only likes fighting, is the only one that thinks the story is good while Joey and garnt say otherwise lol. I agree with garnt that the gojo past arc is the best arc in jjk cause we actually see well written characters doing something interesting and getting actual good development.

[@titheproven954]

I am always surprised that the Vs. Mahito Arc is overlooked from a story standpoint. The killing the transformed kids and Junpei getting morphed...the hit like a truck for me.

[@PentaHousen]

S2 jjk is such Garbo. Shibuya arc was joke fiesta after they seal Gojo (Mechamaru was also BS on another level). Most fight after that was just for sake of "dumb".

[@rockstar1103]

Shibuya Arc is also well written.

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

@@rockstar1103 shibuya arc would be good if there was more set up for it. As is it feels like if Naruto did the pain arc at the end of of Naruto instead of half way through shippudden.

[@PentaHousen]

@@rockstar1103 shibuya arc writting is so dumb... 90% deaths was skippable and added nothing. We already know Nanami was dead after Mahito arc and waited 1 season for it. Power scalling was so dumb and over the place. Nobara getting beat by no name was such bs and same idiot show up to kill megumin. Like this shit was so stupid. Ending was also such ass pull.

[@300Drizzt]

Connor realizes he said umm immediately 😳, waits, no one notices, pats own face 😂

[@first_senpai1473]

Time stamps?

[@300Drizzt]

⁠@@first_senpai147313:12 to 13:27

[@thatsallitismilesaleapoffaith]

time stamp?

[@300Drizzt]

@@first_senpai1473 13:12 to 13:27

[@300Drizzt]

@@thatsallitismilesaleapoffaith 13:12 to 13:27

[@hemsey9051]

So my main takeaway is that every bad decision on this tierlist is all thanks to Joey.

[@WinterRoseYT]

Correct. Downplaying JJK, hating Bocchi, and letting Made in Abyss make it so far made me genuinely upset

[@synergy8879]

made in abyss getting this far is a travesty, it’s below subpar 😂

[@domme6437]

​@@WinterRoseYTWhat? JJK is definitely not a great show for everyone. Made in abyss is way better overall

[@deadline6149]

@@domme6437 not better than Code Geass tho

[@mikeykwaak272]

​@@WinterRoseYT Made in abyss is amazing, also that decision didn't come down just to Joey because Garnt also defended Made in Abyss massively

[@Ked676]

Can’t believe Joey hates Jujutsu Kaisen so much that he let it pass round one so he can hate on it more. lol

[@charapresscott7750]

I mean it's so poorly fuckin written so

[@tvryx9229]

@@charapresscott7750 no its not lmao

[@charapresscott7750]

@@tvryx9229 I've seen enough asspulls to make me not want to read the rest.

[@fukunaga-kane]

@@tvryx9229 It is. People praise the writing like it's Berserk when in truth it couldn't even top Demon Slayer's writing. At least Demon Slayer makes you care for the characters before killing them, and the show ends where it needs to without stretching it with another Sukuna asspull.

[@pantelismat4352]

​@@charapresscott7750explain to me where is the poor writing and the asspulls. Bet you haven't even watched the show properly

[@demodivegaming]

Joey really named his clothing company based on his anime opinions

[@ThatsNotGaming]

ooof, ROASTED! Lmao

[@dinkletonne]

we got a funny bocchi fan over here

[@muffledpotat0245]

LMFAO. Great joke

[@aceum609]

HAHAHA!! Excellent piece of comedy right there. Sure showed him!

[@alexeystarkov7504]

Tbh his takes in general, anime ones are just most famous ones lol

[@blur2055]

20:26 cracks me when Connor is just staring at the camera while Garnt and Joey fights for Bocchi the Rock and K-on XD

[@LONKULADE]

I feel like I've never seen this angle before haha

[@scanskynero3083]

Connor was like: "I don't care for Bocchi, but these takes are making me nonchalant"

[@MohamedMohey-vu7eo]

I never thought the one with the best opinions about anime out of the three of them will be Connor 😂😂

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

Its actually so Based.. bcuz garnt is isekai brain rot.. and Joey is just.. sick

[@projectmessiah]

Joeys HxH auction house arc take is gonna go under the radar but thats only one of the most atrocious things he's ever said

[@Christopher._M]

That isn't even an arc.

[@projectmessiah]

@@Christopher._M Apologies for mistyping, although it is a micro arc of sorts I meant to say section

[@LymLevolveon]

@@Christopher._M The Yorknew city arc he meant

[@samxdy5563]

what's even more infuriating is he praised it in his hxh review video...

[@projectmessiah]

@@LymLevolveon No I didn't, Joey wasn't talking about the whole of Yorknew, he just said the part where they go to the auction to obtain Greed Island was. Which is also what I was referring to in the comment.

[@dankerbooper]

Whoever made Mob and Gurren Lagann face off in the first bracket is evil

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

Nah. that was Jojo's bizarre adventure

[@shafaet1194]

Whoever made Steins;Gate and Attack on Titan face off in the first bracket is evil as well.

[@HaloGT1]

It upset me how they said "Mob is better in every category, but Guren is more hype so it moves on"

[@tristanderamos6455]

@@HaloGT1but I can’t argue is the most the most frustrating I’m not mad tho Gurren Lagann is just built different

[@Malentier]

​@@tristanderamos6455 it drills through the arguments.

[@ishaanwankhade4834]

“A non-controversial episode!” Oh lord here we go

[@lexiehua1457]

Then every anime has pdf file content in it

[@TheOneTrueErica]

I love how much time and consideration they gave each series, and overall the passion about everything was fun. I'd love to see another tournament featuring other genres, characters, etc.

[@drak0n194]

Joey says he doesn’t believe someone who was backstage having a panic attack couldn’t get on stage and perform just fine. That is exactly how my anxiety works. I may not be doing anything nearly that stressful, but I feel like I’m going to die leading up to any kind of public speaking until I start talking, and then I’m good.

[@mistersureshot1749]

Agree

[@QMS9224]

As an introvert full time musician, I had panic attacks nearly everyday for most of my life lol. I would throw up right before going on stage, and I couldn’t eat at all the day of a show. Nowadays I am fine I learned through exposure therapy. That being said I actually agree w Joey that bocci music is just ok it’s really not up there for music anime for me. It’s carried by introverts not the actual music

[@driftingbout297]

as someone who use to play in a Orchestra i would hide behind my other mates in the section my conductor amazing guy very funny helped me out alot with social anxiety and stage fright u can play the song and practice the sheet for hours every day and play it perfect and then when u get on stage it's like being choked everyone can hear your mistakes everyone can see your bow movements ​@@QMS9224

[@Zero-zr6xx]

I swear Joey is baiting hard with that statement. Bro has interviewed many celebs who said the same thing regarding social anxiety

[@yunfanji]

It is her passion so it would make sense that doing it would make her relax against all fears. Simply one forgets those fears, it is not that deep. There is a reason people always suggest self care to deal with anxiety. Now I would understand Joey if it was about trauma because it is not as simple as "just forget" but it is obviously not.

[@JacksPunchingBag]

This finally settles Joey as just "The Man".

[@Isaac_eins]

More like "Maaan" because of his shi takes.

[@makii4772]

The

[@RodentContainmentBreach]

The Clothing Brand Man

[@newbie4789]

Can we take it to "The old man"? His opinions are clouded by nostalgia

[@adamhercik581]

Nah, he's reasonable.

[@onijaanjonu3367]

Joey not liking bocchi because he disbelieves anyone could be that socially awkward feels like a person not liking Koe no Katachi because they refuse to believe anybody can't just listen harder.

[@MNTNHMESMO]

Yeah, it's like ~Your illness is not real. Its literally all in your head, silly.~ Leave it to Joey to come up with majority of the braindead takes

[@waveybooo]

he's true, there simply does not exist a human being that is actually that socially awkward, bocchi is far too exaggerated

[@onijaanjonu3367]

​​​ @waveybooo simple counterpoint: I was. When I was a kid my social anxiety was a living hell. I couldnt talk to people. My voice would tremble even when talking to my own friends. I would literally begin shaking just trying to meet peoples eyes. Every little social indiscretion I made was like torture for me. It would eat me up. To this day I have never any pain equal to the agony I felt then. And with all this and yet still to feel so irrepressibly lonely. I will never wish that hell on anyone. When people dismiss these experiences it feels like a slap in the face.

[@cheesekerper]

@@onijaanjonu3367 yep i completely agree with this. i’d like to add that joey *might* be confused(i’m not sure if he actually is) because of the way anxiety is portrayed through animation for comedic effect and *may* think that, that is how it feels like - as in EXACTLY feel like THAT. i do believe i have social anxiety, it got better, went completely downhill, might be getting better but if you condensed and animated it, it would probably feel like that. bocchi glitching out on the ground is just another way to say she’s shaking - a metaphor. or even the scenes where she’s hiding in a box, it can be interpreted as another way to say she’s super nervous to go up on stage, and when she is on stage she may be trying to hide (like when she performs whilst hiding in the box) or not be seen, she feels uncomfortable seeing all the people looking at her and may not want to be perceived. and honestly i’d rather perform hiding in the box.

[@slvyc]

​​@@waveybooo That's such a bald claim lmao Im worse than bocch Like it doesn't even make sense from a statistical stand point from how many people there are and the amount of massed up disorders that exist. Like bruh, schizophrenia is a thing.

[@Snookers_]

Lol, that bracket was 100% engineered to be controversial. _Almost_ everything pitted against their spiritual counterparts

[@Osaaamaaa]

People like you look for controversy and drama in everything.

[@TheMudkipArmada]

@@Osaaamaaa But he's not wrong though XD

[@AJJ129]

that's show business

[@Sukenus]

@@TheMudkipArmada He is. The only controversial one was Frieren vs FMA, because of the number 1 spot on MAL.

[@samuraijosh1595]

@@Sukenus lol what Gurren lagan vs Mob pyscho and H H vs GUrren seemed pretty heated to me

[@johnrpg]

“bocchi is rip off K-On” and I already know what’ll win hottest take at the next awards

[@brodaforlife]

I’m already laughing my ass off and feeling the absolute saltiness from any offended fan from this hot take

[@newbie4789]

"K-On has better music than Bocchi the Rock" "K-On knew what they were doing but BTR didn't " Joey's whole Bocchi the rock conversation is worth it

[@TheFirehands150]

It's okay guys. Joey doesn't understand the themes and messages from K-on either lol

[@kingdoom5022]

I literally don't remember any of the songs in k on except maybe the end , bocchi is much much better music wise lol

[@Daniel-jz9td]

Bocchi music is really good, it is listenable aside from the show.

[@LymLevolveon]

From everything that Joey says, I think 1. Joey was drunk while watching Bocchi 2. Joey dropped it halfway 3. Joey hasn't watched it and hates it because of the fandom

[@demonicakane2083]

second and third one i would agree

[@nintendofreak768]

He also Holds K-On to high of a regard.

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

Or he didn’t give it a chance and expected absolutely perfect

[@Sukenus]

@@nintendofreak768 Yeah. No idea what Joey sees in K-On. I thought first season was mid and second was downright bad, because the mental age of the cast dropped to 5.

[@RoaringTide]

He also just isn't very familiar with the extent of social anxiety.

[@artaum5635]

Nah, Joey has to be imprisoned for that Bocchi take, that shit was outrageous

[@milten76]

joey be like: i vote for the one thats older

[@SkyflyNB]

He picked made in abyss right at the start

[@undedude4272]

Yall be like: Its new so its better coz people just wanna be unique by liking the old stuffs

[@shsd7579]

unless it comes to anime girls

[@jipke7430]

@@shsd7579 ☠

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

@@SkyflyNBliterally the most L take in anime takes history.. how could anyone

[@misatai5457]

21:43 Man not the editor showing Ryo when Joey was talking about Kukuri. Even editor doesn't care for bocchi the rock 😂

[@jklolnotded9267]

Drink every time joey doesn't understand social anxiety

[@trova4725]

zero drinks will be had lol

[@solacee4327]

I have really bad social anxiety, but I can sorta understand him because I've always been astounded by people who embarrass themselves infront of others because they have social anxiety. Like I've met people like Bocchi who freak out and stay quiet and are just super awkward and it always confuses the hell out of me because my anxiety makes me act normal because I would off myself if anyone thought I wasn't normal lmao (I also would never be able to perform in public of my own volition though) When I was a kid I actively disliked those types of kids because I always felt like they were faking it for attention because if I could pretend to be comfortable/normal despite having a panic attack then so could they (I don't think that anymore since I know it comes in all different forms and depends on different factors, I also thought it was embarrassing when other kids cried at that age, just saying I can understand where Joey is coming from)

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

@@solacee4327 Finally! Someone who tries to understand both sides instead of attacking Joey for the sake of attacking Joey.

[@NCR_]

@@solacee4327 Ah, I think this helps me understand a bit better what it is about Bocchi the Rock that made me dislike it. I couldn't really put my finger on why I found it violently unenjoyable, despite enjoying very similar shows such as K-On and Hitoribocchi no marumaru seikatsu (the latter of which is the better Bocchi and co), but it's probably smth similar to what you've explained.

[@adizcool2-655]

@@solacee4327 Joey is saying that there are no people like Bocchi at all though. He has even said many times before that he cannot imagine a real person thinking or acting like Bocchi does. I don't understand how you agree with him when you yourself have encountered people like that in real life

[@jamesgats900]

this entire bracket is "you're strong, I am just stronger"

[@perrelos2284]

People say Joey is pretentious because he thinks Lain and Monster and other "deep" anime are the best, but honestly the most pretentious opinion is to hype up K-on while reducing Bocchi, Bandori, GBC and other girl band anime to "cheap K-on clones". If you like K-on, I don't see how you could dislike so much especially those three, even if they are not the same obviously.

[@valhallakombi7239]

Especially GBC, for some reason he hates it with a passion

[@bidulus1]

@@valhallakombi7239 Wait where did he actually talk about Girls Band Cry? I only remember him naming it in passing this episode

[@valhallakombi7239]

@@bidulus1 I think he mentioned it in passing in some second channel video that I watched, probably that Reddit top 500 video. He had same reaction, didn't understand why it was in top 500

[@bidulus1]

@@valhallakombi7239 Oh yeah I remember that, he didn't really say anything about it though, I doubt he watched it. Which honestly maybe he should, from what he's been saying he would probably like it a lot more than Bocchi 🤣

[@infamousshinkicker6924]

Another thing imo that Joey said which was pretentious was giving One Punch Man anime a C tier ranking. Bruh...

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Bocchi is for musicians not just introverts wtf come on guys. We don’t call Naruto a show for extroverts, that’s just a trait of the main character.

[@michaeldavis8918]

It's about an introvert learning how to communicate through music you could remove the music and change it to something else and it still would hit similarly

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@michaeldavis8918it’s about an aspiring guitarist who is introverted. Literally everything about the show from the gear to the playing is way too detailed to claim that you could just throw it away.

[@michaeldavis8918]

@leastselfawarepotassium make her an artist or a V-tuber or some other role you can get famous online without needing to show your face then have her meet friends who help he become less introverted boom bocci the artist or bocchi the tuber or whatever the show doesn't need the music to tell its message it does use music really well but the purpose of the show isn't the music

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@michaeldavis8918that’s just ridiculous man. You could say that about literally any anime. Make Blue Lock about basketball and it’s the same.

[@michaeldavis8918]

@leastselfawarepotassium yeah sure I'm talking about the purpose of the story it's supposed to teach us about how to get our comfort zone, ofc the story won't be the same I'm just talking about the lessons the story is trying to teach us, they could have a basketball blue lock where they are trying to be the best point guard or something ofc the story won't be the same but the purpose of the story could still be the same

[@HyperKryst]

How I view Bocchi is that her behavior is not really realistic, but it signifies how a person with social anxiety sees themselves. It's overexaggarated for a comedic relief too, and her behavior shouldn't really be compared to reality, so I kinda die a little bit inside when Joey tries to make the point that people like that don't exist. She's a fictional character in an anime and that's why it works.

[@MNTNHMESMO]

"What do you mean someone with social anxiety doesn't morph through a bunch of art styles, to then become a terrible 3D model, and then be sent flying through the air to hit bowling balls? That's not realistic guys... So bad" Bro watched the show with his brain in rest mode.

[@viciousoz4188]

As much as I appreciate Garnt for defending Bocchi, his defense is terrible. At least for me, I did not watch or enjoy Bocchi because it was "relatable." I watched and enjoyed it because of the character progression, jokes, and music alone. He's not selling the show at all everytime he tries to frame it as an anime "for introverts."

[@HyperKryst]

@@MNTNHMESMO Best thing is that Joey literally was prasing Bocchi when it was coming out, and only because of the whole drama with him saying that nobody is like bocchi he flipped his opinion to spite bocchi fans.

[@kid3905]

@@viciousoz4188 Yeah lol I agree. That was the most frustrating part for me regarding the whole segement, the person arguging in favor of the show is doing a poor job of explaining why people actually enjoy the show.

[@MNTNHMESMO]

@@viciousoz4188 Also, it's a great feel good anime. With a character that tries her absolute hardest to get over a mental illness.

[@johngo3715]

The boys are forgetting that Frieren's journey is all about getting to know humans more. Also, her party has to grow along the way. Hence the side quests on the way to the main quest.

[@tnt6272]

Still boring after a while

[@voii0777]

​@@tnt6272brainlet take icl

[@UserBright]

Not that Ryo when Joey talked about Hiroi 💀

[@n1gtwhisper158]

Fkn Mudan bro

[@tazwar5324]

That's Roy

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

That’s pretty clear that they don’t watch their videos before uploading, and yeah, you shouldn’t do that

[@n1gtwhisper158]

@ragnaricstudios5888 why would they, they pay an editor to do that. Mudan is usually right

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

@@n1gtwhisper158when you’re paying someone, they have to be on point, and letting stuff like that slip through makes them look misinformed

[@metalandmagi6486]

Poor Garnt being the only person to understand Bocchi the Rock XD

[@scott7224]

As someone who has struggled with social anxiety all my life, Bocchi is accurate, just makes the struggle funny for entertainment purposes lol

[@limjplay8919]

Joey and garnt arguing:🤬 Connor on the corner:🙂

[@nir5389]

20:20 i found it so funny that Garnt and Joey was just having this debate and Connor just blankly staring into the void, no thoughts in the head, just empty 😂

[@oomay1925]

Joey's clarification that he never said he hated jjk was so heated he didn't even think about how crazy he would come off expressing his hate towards Bocchi lol. And as much I totally understand putting jjk over Bocchi, the argument for it is so braindead.

[@cheyennemoore8380]

I completely agree and I've never seen either. I've had both on my list and from what little I've seen of each, that's how I felt while listening to this argument.

[@vvverne]

How? He just thinks JJK is serviceable while disliking Bocchi. Nothing crazy about that

[@ifightbears7609]

@@vvverne Its just hist argument about disliking Bocchi is so dumb

[@vvverne]

@@ifightbears7609 He hates bocchi because he founds the MC insufferable, the music mid & the story boring. Those are pretty normal sounding opinions

[@nik021298]

​@@vvvernebut he doesn't say it like that

[@Sugarist0]

Bro is an extrovert trying to tell introverts how they should behave

[@deathlydashi]

Who?

[@mrblazeapound7856]

​@@deathlydashi I think they're talking about Joey

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

If referring to the whole Bocchi the Rock thing, while I've not seen the anime, it seems she might be an introvert but more accurately, she has severe social anxiety and they're not the same. I am an introvert, I am happy with my own company and don't really yearn for the company of others, though maybe in the future I might like to try having friends. I'm not against socializing, but I'm very content to be by myself. Social anxiety is someone who wants to make friends or socialize but it brings on extreme panic. The two can have some over-lap and share a Vinn Diagram, but they're not the same thing. I say this because I'm admittedly quite tired of people mixing them up. Introversion is being seen the same as social anxiety and it's not. I kind of feel like I'm always on clean up duty when speaking to extroverts and having to course-correct because when I say I'm an introvert, the reaction is imemdiately negative. Forgive me, those with social anxiety, that will have to be your battle to speak on and explain since I've not walked in those shoes, but I'm going to at least try to set the record straight for us introverts 😅 I saw an animated short here on KZbin not too long ago that I seriously wish I could find again because it explains it so perfectly, of a character living on their own in the woods, not because they hate people or people make them nervous or anxious, but because it's what brings them joy. The character is single and maybe one day they'll have a partner but likely no kids, and that's also not due to hating kids, it's just not what they want for their life. I felt like the animator got the "assignment" and did a beautiful job of representing "us".😂 There's plenty of content about social anxiety but not enough on just being an introvert. We're not as represented because we're always inaccurately depicted/labeled. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk 😂

[@AJJ129]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley"you "might like to try having friends" don't worry you will it will be tough you might get hurt in all honesty you probably will get hurt but you'll like it and it'll be worth it to have true friends

[@aborikin2764]

​@@deathlydashiThats if the most retarded take I've ever seen

[@paulcatindig2260]

Connor saying that he wants a mushoku tensei but IRL is just welcome to the NHK lmfaoo

[@stars6627]

20:26 Connor’s face has me dead bro 😭

[@juice6521]

He's looking into your soul.

[@dazaimaru5799]

Looked dead inside LOL

[@reconfox82]

It's has to be a meme

[@00Human0]

wtf is bro doing lmaoo

[@brainlessappendix4369]

He's doing the Jim face

[@saltine9692]

Bocchi was one of my favorite anime’s in the past few years, mainly because the show really hit home. I think there are actually a lot of people that are as anxious, if not more than Bocchi. But the thing about Bocchi is that I feel like she physically represents the internal thoughts and feelings of said anxious people. Nobody actually acts like Bocchi in real life, but so many people think like her. There are countless times where I have done something innocuous and instantly start coming up with an infinite number of reasons for why I’ve just fucked up. The show really feels good to watch

[@MNTNHMESMO]

Hell yeah. Watching her overcome her mental illness, making genuine friends, and being able to express the thing she is passionate about, despite everything she has going against her (her own fucking brain) it's just a great motivational story

[@cheyennemoore8380]

Awesome! I wanted to watch it already since I felt I'd have the exact same feeling as you as someone who's had intense anxiety that's been worse until recently, but now I might watch it this week. Thanks for sharing why you like it!

[@tpsam]

​@@cheyennemoore8380I don't think I have that much social anxiety but I loved bocchi easily beating jjk for me And the music idk why made me cry and it's really fun and cozy but maybe that's me being a slice of life enjoyer Animation really good very interesting the technical insights on how to actually work and do jobs in order to succeed as an artist and grow a fan base

[@ducktrapper483]

@@saltine9692 i remember back in freshmen year of highschool i had to go up and just stand but my social anxiety kicked in and i made a huge scene by not wanting to go up cuz i was afraid when all i had to do was just stand there, there are genuine people who are like bocchi including me

[@Seigensei]

Bruh. Joey is really just hating Bocchi for the sake of hating. Bro probably got pissed cuz people kept saying it’s better than K-on

[@mookiestewart3776]

No he’s hating it because a large number of you bocchi fans are insufferable and the music was mid at best. It’s pretty simple dog.

[@istaka1416]

I think so.

[@baygone-r8s]

he is just faking a drama

[@2BAMaster9]

This the same guy who farmed clicks for hating SAO just to hate

[@germchang]

I mean tbf, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Sure, it appeals to the majority of the anime fan base, but I could see how Joey would find it as unrealistic because he doesn't relate to it. But you're right in that saying that he hates it rather than saying "it's just not for me" is for sure just hating

[@benbroomhead7083]

I physically clapped when grant came back from his toilet break and chose one piece lmao

[@kingdoom5022]

Joey saying that bocchi anxiety is unrealistic is one of the worst takes , at least bocchi talks to people and go to school , there's some people out there who barely even talk to thier parents from social anxiety

[@MNTNHMESMO]

Bro never experienced anything close to that feeling, so of course it can't happen. Braindead takes all around.

[@zoinksscoob6523]

He never actually have to deal with social anxiety, because he probably have a good progression from childhood. Unlike Garnt who have to actively try to have a social interaction in University when things felt a lot more concious. This is what bocchi was supposed to represent, what it feels like to have social anxiety, not what it looks like.

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

@@zoinksscoob6523 The problem is... it's a comedy show and the kind of Watamote esque show he just straight up doesn't like. If it was a serious show that tackled social issues I'm pretty sure this would not be a problem.

[@adizcool2-655]

@@ShadowOfMassDestruction I think most people understand comedy is subjective and won't work on all people. Joey could have just said that he didn't like the comedy or characters but he had to make a braindead take on how there are no people like Bocchi. It makes it seem like it's not a comedy/serious issue for him, but just that he is unable to understand that people like that exist

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

@@adizcool2-655 Zamn welp I can't defend that lol

[@benjaa.]

Connor's face during the Joey rant on Bocchi being bad😭

[@KGanza]

The daily Togashi update tweets are really holding a whole fandom together

[@Dev_712]

Joey's take on Bocchi is probably the worst take I have ever heard in this podcast, and that's saying something lol. It's also funny how he has put Kamina - an unrealistic and exaggerated version of an extrovert on a pedestal but absolutely refuses to acknowledge an exaggerated version of an introvert in Bocchi. You can dislike the show mate, but don't be dismissive of introverts with social anxiety. They do exist irl

[@paladinpulse2690]

Who let bro be the anime man 😭🙏🏽

[@Amaterasu957]

"I hate Bocchi" ... understandable, we have different tastes, this is trash taste so I may disagree with their views. "The song were mid" Now I'm questioning Joey's taste in anime and music...

[@gaoexkaiser]

fr bro 💀

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

Honestly Joey is the most unfun person to talk about out anime with

[@nanashi7779]

​@@ragnaricstudios5888 this guy talking like he's a friend of Joey who's discussed anime with him in person before 😂

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

@@nanashi7779he’s made it clear multiple times, are you blind? That’s his schtick throughout his KZbin career

[@MoguMasso]

​@@Quinnsula5 saying is shit it's very difficult to say. Many song in the OST are just technically good and they have a really good production. Every instruments is clearly audible, the mixing is great. There are great riffs, [ カラカラ ] is awesome and technical... I fucking love K-On songs, but man... the studio version of Cagayake Girls seems like is mixed in a garage. Saying B t R song are shit is a long stretch.

[@aliwaleed2004]

As a 2016 gigguk fan, that TOURNAAAMEENT AAARCC was nostaligc

[@binkiebrew]

Hxh's current arc is so much better than literally anything here. Hxh in general is so fucking good.

[@suuuperanime]

Yeah. Completely agree. I mean we say that if HxH kept going it would probably be bigger/ more popular than One Piece. I try to rewatch it every year if I can

[@Plummchild]

saying Girls band Cry is a K-on clone might be the worst Anime take iv ever heard joey have

[@renk9290]

I genuinely believe he read the description and nothing more cuz the only thing they have in common is music fr

[@scanskynero3083]

Joey tries to be a snobby contrarian because he realizes he doesn't have a redeeming quirk that the other boys have

[@user-19kemkxnfhk18]

I hate joey for this man wtf

[@fukunaga-kane]

@@renk9290 its probably it because Girls Band Cry is an anime original. Joey dont watch shows, he reads manga.

[@mordor2594]

You either Die a hero or live long enough to be the villain. Trash Taste: Tournament Arc!

[@Anthonywashere01]

Joeys opinion on Bocchi The Rock makes me want to die inside 😭, aint no way im hearing him shit on the soundtrack, i see why anitwt jumps on bro 😭😭😭

[@jacopom.7477]

To be honest the soundtrack is the worst part of the anime

[@smlpol]

Joey exposed himself again. In one of the live shows, he said the Bocchi music was "stellar"

[@QMS9224]

Tbh I disagree with Joey ALOT. And I also liked/didn’t hate Bocci. I’m also an introvert. But I actually agree with him here, I am musician my whole life and that’s my full time career (not that it makes a difference everyone is entitled to their opinion). But I say this more in that I am a music anime connoisseur. Tbh bocci was just ok for me, the music certainly wasn’t bad but I can’t remember a single song or melody nothing sticks. I just think you are lying if you say that you listen to Bocci soundtrack in your free time. I just wish ppl would admit that they fell in love with bocci’s character and it carried the show, but the music was just ok.

[@dallydakopkapt.1604]

@@QMS9224 i do listen to the soundtrack in my free time. Its not that crazy.

[@derp4581]

@@QMS9224 It's been 1.5 years since Bocchi ended, I don't speak a lick of Japanese, but when I listen to the music (yes, I do it on my free time), I still remember the meaning of each line from way back when I read the translations not long after the show ended. It's that memorable to me

[@defaultname0]

29:22 Joey casually invalidating people with social anxiety. Feels good man.

[@lenn_man]

Okay I can't accept Joey shitting on the Bocchi soundtrack like that 😭

[@loganmccurdy1328]

couldn't believe what I was hearing. as a fellow guitarist his take feels almost slanderous. ano bando goes unbelievably hard

[@lenn_man]

@@loganmccurdy1328 best song in the album ngl, I also love Flashbacker

[@loganmccurdy1328]

@@lenn_man hell yes

[@partinmalm]

Definitlely, Joey´s take on BTR was absolutely unjustified. Him hating on the soundtrack is just rubbing a shit ton of salt into the wound

[@lenn_man]

@@partinmalm honestly Joey really came for the Bocchi fans' heads with his take. It also just seemed like he won't regard the show's merits and why it was received so well by lots of people

[@gtafan110010]

Connor was on point this podcast. So many dry humor lines

[@pepitothefrogito7372]

Joey not understanding social anxiety: I sleep Joey calling Bocchi's OST mid: REAL SHIT. Of all the takes he could have had, that is one of the worst ones.

[@skymyu]

100% agree, Bocchi’s ost has a ton of streams on spotify

[@cracuss31n52]

It's definitely not mid but is it really that good? I mean it fails to be the main attraction of the show, bocchi is more known for its comedy rather than it's songs.

[@donotdoit8428]

​@@cracuss31n52 and still sons are good. It does everything it wants with full freedom. That why its great.

[@akitski021]

​@@cracuss31n52I mean the song is really popular that got million views and got in first take an anime not opening not ending just song they also did live concert of bocchi songs

[@mikeb8138]

13:20 when Connor catches himself saying um immediately, eyes the camera 😳 and then gives himself a little slap 😂😂😂

[@oomay1925]

Love how Joey says K-On has way better music, as if the band didn't have two songs and 95% of the times they performed, it was only "fuwa fuwa time"

[@sg-te9pu]

It literally has a whole album. Even the OP ED is fire

[@oomay1925]

@sg-te9pu I know they have more songs, but just watching the anime, they mostly just play Fuwa Fuwa Time. I like K-On, but it's not for the music imo 😅

[@ShotterGames]

@@oomay1925 K-ON is more of a music anime outside the episodes, it's crazy how many songs it has but they keep spamming fuwa fuwa time every single time like it was the greatest hit of the decade, but if you think about it, it's realistic considering that the members just spend most of their time drinking tea and eating cake so they wouldn't be able to practice any other songs lmao

[@navkaranhanda]

in an SBS segment (one of Eiichiro Oda's QNA sessions) he said that the one piece is not something like "the friends we made along the way", it is something physical

[@PIXTO_]

probably a tool to achive something luffys dream which we don't know what it is

[@Aaronrules380]

Oda's been incredibly explicit about this in and out of story several times

[@MarlicJr]

Its gonna be a massive bath plug for the ocean or something wacky like that

[@wesleybcrowen]

It's a tiny gold plaque that reads "The Real One Piece is Friends We Made Along The Way".

[@jeremygeller9145]

I think one of the common beliefs is that it’s the final weapon of the ancient kingdom, one that will turn the whole world into “one piece” by destroying the red line

[@crazywyvern4704]

as someone who has performed on stage, getting into it and not thinking about it (as a socially awkward person) is definitely possible, I could totally see someone doing that

[@zoinksscoob6523]

joey probably doesn't get it because he haven't had much experience, different with Garnt who already done gigs a couple times and actually have that kind of experience when his band let the crowd sing along with them.

[@cracuss31n52]

Definitely not on stage but when I went to an interview waiting for it to start is scarier than doing the interview itself.

[@istaka1416]

​@@zoinksscoob6523thought he joined a band before

[@SavantGardeEX]

​@zoinksscoob6523 he literally performed at the sydney opera house 😂

[@zoinksscoob6523]

@@SavantGardeEX i was specifically talking about gigs and stuff where you can have like a pop off moment with your mates instead of solo piano show

[@vincentopperman1420]

Joey hating on Bocchi is the first W I’ve seen him have

[@oliver-04]

First W in a while

[@nonreality]

i love how joey talks about anime, he just uses key words to make you think hes watched the whole show. then waits for someone else to talk and agrees with them lol.

[@Rkanegaming-e]

Joey's too extroverted to comprehend the peakness that is Bochi the Goat

[@Memebigboi]

I will repeat that A LOT of people have social anxiety similar to bocchi, its just exaggerated for comedic effect (that is how we feel)

[@aizensosuke1243]

Joey when introverts exists "nah! bad plot progression, just make friends"

[@outragexz]

Joey hating Bocchi the Rock is the worst take I've ever heard...

[@MNTNHMESMO]

Bro is just objectively wrong about all his opinions about it. Not even subjectively. Just factually wrong lol

[@oyamampendu9467]

@@MNTNHMESMO pls proof it because facts are nowhere in this discussion you're trying to have

[@MNTNHMESMO]

@@oyamampendu9467 Depiction of social phobia: Most people that have this shit relate to Bocchi, it's not unrealistic. The depiction is supposed to be all over the place in order to translate that feeling to visual form. K-on songs are not better in any shape, form or sound. It's not a knockoff K-on just because there are girls in a band.

[@zoinksscoob6523]

@@oyamampendu9467 Joey will never get social anxiety because he didn't have it. Bocchi is not a representation of social anxiety, its a representation on how it feels like to have social anxiety with a bit of exaggeration.

[@kingdoom5022]

Some people say that anime fans like frieren because recency bias but in reality most of the time nostalgia bias is much stronger than recency bias

[@Maltheus_]

Yes, you're absolutely right, both can at least be just as blinding.

[@newbie4789]

It's equally blinding. Also why I kinda prefer Garnt's opinion over Joey. Garnt still keeps his excitement for newer shows while Joey hates anything that is newer and better than his nostalgic pics. The whole argument about Bocchi the Rock was BRAIN ROT

[@kingdoom5022]

​​@@newbie4789 Its not equally blinding , nostalgia bias is way stronger , there's so much animes i loved before that i wouldn't be able to watch them now

[@kingmcclawson]

@@kingdoom5022 aint nobody tryna argue bleach and naruto as the best animes ever, quit yapping.

[@kingdoom5022]

​@@kingmcclawson Old animes have really slow pacing , i liked them before , but now when you can finish 2 amazing 25 episodes anime before even finishing one arc of Naruto , i rather watch the 25 episodes animes lol

[@No-fh5lz]

I love how connor told joey to slap him when he'd say "um." But when joey didn't, connor did a quiet little slap to himself instead.

[@johnnymcjohnson1373]

Honestly having read JJK, the anime hasn’t reached the highs of the manga yet and honestly peak JJK I think can stand shoulder to shoulder with some of the greats like OP

[@suuuperanime]

Really! I’m hearing JJK of great but apparently after the Shibuya arc it’s been going down hill. I heard the ending is it the best from the manga. 🤷🏾‍♂️ We loved the anime so much so we made a few podcast and video episode about it but my co host went on to read it and apparently the story of getting worse.

[@huttserl]

both connor AND joey not understand bocchi really isn't surprising since they've never had those sort of thoughts lmao. The harder they deny that someone would never go through that, the more it makes sense that they just don't get it lol

[@soapsatellite]

At least Connor has the decency to say that the show isn't for him, which he has said in the past. Also, there really needs to be a slice of life enjoyer for one of these episodes, I swear

[@MNTNHMESMO]

Comedy was on point. Depiction of actual anxiety and social phobia was the best depiction ever put on any media ever made. Animation was perfect, no notes. Voice acting? Bro. Joey was absolutely spiting nonsense here.

[@zezanje1]

i am so retarded that a lot of the times i wouldnt be terrified to respond to the cashier, when i dont see the 5 friends that i have for longer than 2-3 weeks i am scared to talk to them again, but bocchi was completely not relatable to me most ofthe time

[@trova4725]

no they're just right lol

[@newbie4789]

​​​@@soapsatelliteYou know something... I actually think Connor might actually have a neutral opinion than Joey if he watch the show He is not that dense

[@imblindboy]

joey saying bocchi songs are bad when half the songs are composed/written by bands like tricot, the peggies, kanaboon, and akfg

[@pandabosch]

It's fine that Joey doesn't like Bocchi but if he could just say it's not for me I didn't connect with it and move on that would be great. Don't have to double down and proclaim it's awful though.

[@newbie4789]

Yeah ... Some of the arguments he had were really not helping his case.

[@oomay1925]

Right? I watched Bocchi and I wasn't in love with it compared to others, but I can easily see and appreciate what is good about it. I don't know exactly what about the anime could make you HATE it, even if it wasn't your cup of tea.

[@Dreamycast]

@@oomay1925 Joey is a contrarian asshole, it is just his default state of being.

[@i.h.1091]

It would make for a boring podcast if it were just a mature conversation tho, would it not?

[@ncp9095]

You know why? He thinks it’s funny that way. Similar to the prankster mindset.

[@katoshikt]

They really showed us a Trash taste

[@SilkSonic-c9z]

Aot should have won Other than that I can only think of vinland or steins gate

[@EinDippsn]

Kind of hilarious how obviously Joey has no idea what he's talking about with a lot of the more recent shows he's talking about here. He hasn't watched shit, he's just yapping.

[@a_waff1es_0pinion76]

No, he has watched them. He just hates on anything that’s recently come out because he has a biased for older anime. Early 2000-2015 anime

[@shinyanakagawa8241]

@@a_waff1es_0pinion76 Nah, I don't think so. If he's saying GBC is a K-On clone and K-On has better tracks than GBC, I don't think he even watch any of the short MV at all, let alone other recent anime that people talked about. He just refused to take off his nostalgia goggles and just consume manga that he likes and ignore latest anime catalogues except for the obvious ones he follows, like Monogatari.

[@Masatakeshi]

Connor describing the plot of "welcome to the nhk" saying he would find that more enjoyable than mushoku... idk about that one

[@barethor5869]

I found it to be a much better story.

[@Balambambuny]

I love when they have honest takes. I don't even need to agree, just be real about what you like or dislike!

[@NCR_]

Goddamn, reading this comment is something. After sorta-doomscrolling through comments about Joey's Bocchi takes, Mushoku Tensei, Gurren Lagann, etc it feels like I've found the One Piece with this one. I wish there were more fans - people in general really - that also had this mindset. Popularize sharing opinions without needing to share the same opinion! The world would be _unbelievably_ boring if everyone unanimously liked and disliked the same things, after all.

[@Balambambuny]

@@NCR_ exactly! As long as those opinions are not like problematic or smth it's fine. At the end of the day it's just anime.

[@corurachi7054]

Best comment

[@LymLevolveon]

@@NCR_ yeah but arguing about those takes like an immature child is also fun lol, the thing is many people just straight up hate instead of arguing while respecting each other's opinions

[@NCR_]

@@LymLevolveon Oh I 100% agree! I personally really like having (and watching others have) silly, sometimes nonsensical arguments. Idk why, there's just something about it that is endless entertainment lol. It's part of why I enjoy Trash Taste - they definitely have some heated arguments (to say the least lol) but it always has that playful undertone and they never start being nasty to one another in a way that isn't clearly played for laughs.

[@MicrowaveableLemon]

Connor having the most good takes this episode is crazy

[@umbrajesus5230]

"Bochi cant do domain expansion" fuckiing killed me 😂😂😂