The TRICK that Fooled Us All- The Prestige Review

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[@aayushmishra6469]

I have never agreed with 3 different opinions all at the same time

[@chanceneck8072]

Until now?

[@siddharthakumar5841]

Definition of the day: Epistolary : "A Movie told through notes and shit"

[@vairagparikh6926]

That Micheal Caine impression by Riley XD

[@VithorLeal]

David just sounds so pretensious sometimes, even though I really think he isn't trying to be. I think that he just cares about movies in a deeply technical way and has a hard time understanding the art/expression of feelings the others are going through when watching

[@rossallen5121]

Nailed it!!

[@chanceneck8072]

Most pretentious to me was his attempt to explain visual lines in the The Fountain episode. And explaining it as something, the director Darren Aronofsky "doesn't grasp".... 🙈 smh.... I'm not saying that I dislike David though, I love all of these 3 guys! 👍

[@Bajablasted0]

Idk I thought he was hilarious this episode

[@hawkchun]

The whole "trick" of the movie is revealed in a trick, where a bird is squashed under a hidden slot in a table in a trick to make it "disappear" and then a replacement bird of the same type is revealed elsewhere as if it is the original bird. A child in the crowd cries and when asked why, he responds with "you killed his brother".

[@ottojagenstedt9740]

No, that was not what the kid said and your "revalation" isn't a revalation to anyone. I guess next you're gonna tell me that Neo is an anagram of One..

[@evilgeniusha01]

@@ottojagenstedt9740 1 This was a revelation to me. 2 The quote is "but where's his brother?" Which is close enough.

[@ottojagenstedt9740]

@@evilgeniusha01 No I wouldn't say it's close enough because that would ruin everything that's good about the scene. It's not supposed to give you the answer like "hey this is another bird and you killed the first one". It's supposed to make you ask yourself the questions that child brought up. What is that kid talking about "brother"? He hid the bird and brought it back whatever, stupid kid.. And you wont think nothing of it until the end of the movie. The scene is great because it's short, nothing out of the ordinary and still hides that in there.

[@kyleholman7191]

Yep

[@onionhead4980]

Many of Nolan's films have only one scientific fiction (entering dreams, interstellar travel) the only reason the cloning/teleportation seemed out of place here is because it was a period piece. Usually it's modern time with one advancement in tech.

[@kyleholman7191]

Tesla was literally inventing similar machines during this time period

[@hacksoftbasic2178]

I REALLY wanna hear you discuss The Lighthouse some day! Anyway, I really enjoy this series!

[@jesse_phillips]

Seconding this!

[@Veloce87]

I've seen The Prestige so many times, but this has made me have to go back and watch it yet again

[@OotoriKyouya]

The best type of Carpool Critics podcast is when one of the three strongly disagree with one another. Their Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker podcast is one of my favorites

[@alangarde2928]

I find it fascinating seeing the reversal of it being David that a film just doesn't click with for once. Some films are just really bad, and there are a lot of those. Some films though just there are things which will either engage with you and you'll love, or it's just not for you. I've known some of those and I've found it really frustrating that I just don't get what people see in it, or I can almost see it but there are aspects of the film that just throw me out of it. Then I've really wished if they had just done... or I could experience what others see in it. That's the delight of watching films though, and discussing them, finding those things which matter to me but not others, and vice-versa, and I loved that about this carpool critics. I love this film as a study of obsession. Both are obsessed, both hurt others by their obsession. Borden isn't a 'good guy' because of his dedication to his art, his obsession to the purity of his trick hurts as many or more than Angier. I still enjoy watching this. It is a magic trick. The secret is in front of you, they tell you, but the willing disbelief we as an audience have for a magic trick comes into play. I enjoy on re-watches that the film doesn't hide things from us, it may misdirect, but it does it whilst telling us so it still feels honest to me. Again the interesting part of the podcast is seeing how the things I love about it can be part of what switches someone else off.

[@kurtbarker1810]

How have I not heard about this advertised on LTT? This is great!

[@rossallen5121]

Best thing to come out of LMG by far

[@anamtuirseach]

I completely agree with James' opinion on this movie. I feel like the technical limits of a time period shouldn't be enough to kill a good film. The Prestige is soundly "good enough" in that regard. It's not like they were making The Searchers but with GPS tracking - something that would immediately kill immersion in the story. Does David have the same period problems with Penny Dreadful? For the group: is there a film that you liked better on your second viewing (having disliked it on 1st viewing)?

[@TheyreJustMovies]

1-Totally a fair opinion. 2- I haven't seen Penny Dreadful. 3- Tree of Life. I hated it on my first viewing. I found it incomprehensible and needlessly cryptic. However, as I revisited it and thought about it more, it started to become one of my favorites - DG

[@anamtuirseach]

@@TheyreJustMovies Cool, thanks for the reply. I think you should give Penny Dreadful a shot when you have time; great cast, strong setting, compelling plots. I will warn that the series' ending is lackluster due to abrupt cancelation, but overall it's a well made gothic horror production. But you may have the same issues in terms of anachronisms. Have a good one!

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Like, do all films have to be 100% historically accurate? I'm fairly certain that time machines weren't invented in 1985, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying back to the future.

[@aditya.khapre]

6:55 If we really think about it, the movie itself follows the rules of magic: The Pledge, The Turn and The Prestige.

[@kyleholman7191]

Yep. Michael Caine is narrating the three acts of Christopher Nolan's cinematic magic trick

[@louisluis1]

The line where hugh jackman says he doesn't know which one he'll be, the one that drowns or the one that lives, he's talking about in the end where he's finally able to fool christian bale and no longer has to drown himself.

[@psychopopdesign]

By now it’s almost a cliché to say but I was so not a podcast guy. This was one of my firsts and is now my ONLY. It has become a weekly ritual for me to watch this and then the movie. This is seriously the sickest take on some of my favorite movies. People need to know about this, it deserves the #1 movie podcast spot period. 5 Stars and highly recommend.

[@nickbu]

I think my explanation of why Borden switched even for family life is that it was their dedication to the craft. In order to be the same person on and off stage, they need to live exactly the same life. And that's how they do it. I don't think that's a thing any sane person would do but it does make sense in the movie. I buy it.

[@kyleholman7191]

Yes, they had to both live half of a life and both play each other's role so their differences from day to day come off as normal to everyone in their life.

[@peterj1979]

I think Being John Malkovich would be another entertainingly polarizing movie to review.

[@ChavinTek]

Oh man, the Illusionist would be a good pair to do against this one

[@chicodavid1211]

I agree

[@imperiajor]

1:06:10 "Shia LaBeouf" Live - Rob Cantor ;D

[@kabiro2151]

Man, listening to this makes me realize how much they put stuff infront of me quietly crafting the next trick.

[@aryansivakumar2263]

49:51 GUYS!!! The reason he ties the different knot is because it is more challenging, which then makes the trick better. It is the obsession angaier has to become better at his craft and he does it by tying the stronger knot.

[@kyleholman7191]

One brother is tying one knot and the other brother is tying the other knot

[@JoJoJoker]

The ironic part of The Prestige is that Angier could have cloned himself one time and stolen Borden’s trick. He instead overcomplicated things by killing himself over and over during his trick.

[@kubev]

With suspension of disbelief getting mentioned so many times in this episode, I have to say that I really, really want to see them review "A Quiet Place" in the future. XD

[@tsartomato]

OOF dat "film"

[@gypsoy6003]

i love watching these guys trying to find a middle ground always great

[@kyleholman7191]

Harry Houdini was escaping from water tanks during the time period of this movie.

[@SashimiSteak]

it has been years since I've seen this movie and I remember enjoying it so David's initial score gave me a shock, but as the discussion goes on he really does make some fair points, at the same I started to remember many of the things I felt odd or disengaging about this movies. I think the big twist and this theme about obsession really swept me off my feet. I think it's fair to say it's not a perfect movie in any way. It certainly has some major issues as a film, but for all intents and purposes of what Nolan chose to focus on, it paid off. It identifies itself as a vessel that takes you mind on ride, and to achieve this, it's made a lot of compromises and corner cutting in traditional cinematography. James made a good point where the movie tries really hard to preserve and maintain the twist, that's true because I think this is precisely the objective of Nolan when he directed this movie. I think to enjoy this movie we need to be open and forgiving, and just allow our mind to be swept away. It does what it sets out to do very well, being a movie just so happens to be the form of media it has taken to achieve this. This is one of those films where rating the experience watching it vs rating the whole package as a movie would give very different scores. I feel like Nolan does a much better job in balancing these 2 things in his subsequent movies. Having said that they could probably do a bit more work on world building as David suggested to improve the immersion, and still achieve the same effect. Having cloning when the rest of the film tries so hard to ground itself in a real time period in history really was immersion breaking.

[@davidsonnow]

I love how buddy in the back just decides to check out at a certain point ...😄

[@shervinguy]

As far as why they did the knot, Angiers wife does say that she felt it start to slip and then Bordon says the Langford double will hold

[@NerdyMeathead]

Video scripts, shooting videos, podcasts . How many hours a day do you guys work?

[@manuxyz595]

Borden wrote tesla as the keyword because the Real Tesla is Andy serkis's character Alley, David bowies character was a assistant or an actor. Borden was at the expo looking at Andy serkis's character more and less of that electric lightning machine. But angier never understood about who the real Tesla was eventhough he spent time with Alley, just like he never understood about borden's twin brother.

[@kyleholman7191]

That's pure conjecture

[@manuxyz595]

@@kyleholman7191 not at all watch the movie again with focusing on Andy serkis character, you will realise he was the real tesla

[@JoJoJoker]

Angier isn’t even Angier. He is Lord Caldlow. He is just as committed to his alter ego as Borden.

[@WMR35]

As someone who has grown up in London, I thought that christian bale had a flat accent in this movie and it did not come across as cockney but instead realistic and normal.

[@thploi]

11:17 the patience on David

[@bilgekorucu7523]

Yep didn’t talk forever.

[@TheFeli73]

I always assumed borden had gone to tesla to try be teleported, found out he was cloned and never told anyone, which is why they shared their wife and switched etc, not that they were twin brothers

[@tsartomato]

lol nah he talks about asian man commitment even before he brought his younger brother into it

[@ShooterQ]

50:35 This sounds like Houdini's real life.

[@Elixir140]

The Prestige is fucking awesome. My favourite movie since I first saw it.

[@caseysimon2569]

When Riley calls you “vanilla”

[@2LPfan]

The space magic is super important. Without it the point that the narrator is trying to make throughout the movie wouldn't be true. And the magic trick that is the movie wouldn't work. It's a double. It is the only way this trick could possibly be done in real life. There isn't some secret for him to discover. Real magic does not exist. But he is driven mad anyways.

[@elWhiteNinja1]

The knot is a major plot point as is the love between Borden and his wife. One brother actually loves her. One of the brothers tied the wrong knot. I think they missed a lot of those really subtle things.

[@RamblinggeekUk]

No LTT Water bottles on the table in view, missed opportunity 😁

[@rossallen5121]

They need their own CPC merch now

[@hawkchun]

if you like this movie just skip David talking. normally i respect his opinion, but what he says on this movie i really cant get behind. Really nit picky.

[@kellz9972]

yeaaaaaa the pint glasses not being "time period appropriate" is pretty garbage. Cloning isnt time period appropriate either.... hes expecting realistic takes from a movie with HEAVY steampunk influences.

[@Theorica]

So much to say about the film and so much to say about agreement and disagreement of their feelings on it. Is it just me or do any more of us get just as excited when James seems to truly like a film? Haha, infectuous. I appreciate that David has pretty strong convictions leaning elsewhere from Riley and James at times. Only a few times so far has his walls been lowered a little by the others if the argument is compelling enough. Makes for good entertainment too. It isn't empty contrarian tropes all the way down. I will say against David's disbelief though is that there is a lot of lore and mystery surrounding Tesla. The movie and your experience benefits if you are familiar with this. I don't mean that it is real. I'm just laying out that prior knowledge helps a long way. As soon as I saw the Tesla coils in the beginning, I immediately thought Tesla. Then as soon as I heard the name Colorado Springs and the question that the entire town had electricity, I knew Tesla was going to be used as a macguffin. It was acceptable for immersion knowing the lore that many today, think is real. =) Kind of like magic. Oh, and Riley, we noticed the lack of Star Wars comparisons in this episode! I'm not quite sure what to make of that yet. But we know how hard that must have been. We're here for ya if you need to vent. haha.

[@kyleholman7191]

Angiers killing himself 100 times shows that he's 100% willing to get his hands dirty by the end.

[@irnp6125]

Riley hating on David Bowie...my guess is Riley's pissed that Bowie pulled of the stache better than Riley.

[@vivekvs1992]

David should watch Now you see me.. on an unrelated note....i want to see you guys fight over whether the original full metal alchemist is better or the brotherhood one...its not a long anime too, you can easily finish it

[@iTzNiKoYo]

You guys should do Lucky Number Slevin!

[@siddharthakumar5841]

I think you guys missed a point. It's not that Bale is Good and Jackman is Bad. Both are obsessed with their crafts. Both are suffering in their own ways. Even Bale (who loves his wife) has to switch with his twin brother. Even that would cause mental agony. That life is not supposed to be enjoyable for him well. Both have to pay the price ultimately.

[@jayantjj]

I love this movie so much but some points raised against it are very valid. Especially about the dialogue, which I think is a weakness in Nolan movies across the board. Except Dark Knight maybe

[@kyleholman7191]

Sarah absolutely knows they are twins when she kills herself. Also the pacing is methodical. Not every movie has to have fight scenes

[@kyleholman7191]

The Nolan medium shot was absolutely an issue. Filming movies in IMAX changed that aspect of his shooting scenes.

[@chanceneck8072]

4:36 You should watch the Doctor Who episode "Heaven Sent"! 😉👍

[@richardrobinson6154]

Starting to hit that stride guys

[@runescaper1333]

I didn't know they had a movie podcast.

[@thenoblegoat7895]

When are we getting the Scooby Doo movie review?

[@KuronoXD]

These are the more interesting videos, with at least two heavily different opinions trying to justify themselves. I think I loved the movie as much as James, but listening to David I had to agree with most of what he said, which I wouldn't have initially nitpicked on with my biased positive view of the movie. Still love it though.

[@Rickles]

I think the main theme of this movie is obsession and blindness which is obviously required in all magic tricks. The two main characters are deeply broken due to their obsession with being better at their craft and better than their rival. If you can't identify with this theme you will feel like David buy if you can you will enjoy the movie. "The Prestige" is actually the answer I give when people ask me my favorite movie. I actually think this movie is better on the second viewing because you see every single thing that they did to obsessively drive you to the point. The entire movie contains foreshadowing and the twist is in your face the whole time but you have to see the whole movie to figure it out.

[@instars2027]

omg, these Linus Tech Tips guys do movie reviews now 😁

[@joeyp4981]

I cannot agree more that watching it more than once is even more enjoyable. You see the intricacies that you missed the first time. The intentional pieces the magician left to show he was tricking you while he was tricking you.

[@RC360]

I'm late to this podcast....This is my favorite movie ever. David seems like he has a bias when it comes to Nolan movies.

[@AlexShkop]

I would like to suggest reading a book the movie is based on. As much as I liked the movie on the first watch, the book is so much better that it ruined all the consecutive watches.

[@tsartomato]

the book is unbearable

[@htc148]

can yall tell us what you will watch so we can watch it too before we get your take on it? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TheyreJustMovies]

Follow us on Twitter if you can. We will let you know there. Unfortunately we don't usually know what we're going to cover next when we shoot the video. -DG

[@joshuagray6061]

This is my favorite episode of the David Sucks the Soul Out of Everything podcast

[@CamS-h4x]

After recently finding TJM I've listened to half a dozen episodes and agreed with David on a lot of them. Totally opposite ok this one. The prestige works for me. I would love to hear TJM discuss Momento and see if David hates it as much as this one.

[@KhromTX]

back to hating David again 🙄 Went from disliking David to Riley and back to David

[@TheyreJustMovies]

I'll win you back one day.... -DG

[@DavidFregoli]

Olivia said they use a double (not the brother) in rehearsals

[@anokajdm53]

David is SOOOO mad that this movie fooled him hahaha

[@Galacsia]

I have to say that i appreciate David's criticism and agree with some of it, however i still like the movie for nailing the basics and telling a compelling story. And while it is a movie that starts to crumble if you think about it too much, i still enjoy it for what it does right. For me it's a 7/10.

[@TheyreJustMovies]

I think that's a pretty fair assesement - DG

[@kyleholman7191]

The parallel between Michael Caine's narration and the unfolding of the 3 acts is Wonderful

[@charlesgrove6905]

Did you guys use a different LUT or colorspace for the video recording this time, colors look desaturated or some type of filter is overlaid. No expert, just noticed its not like the usual pod.

[@charlesgrove6905]

Haha, I just love David's take sometimes, it does add a bit of exciting exchange to the process.

[@charlesgrove6905]

"Very Contrived" lol

[@squishel]

Can you guys do Train to Busan at some point? Would love to hear your thoughts!

[@kfj6709]

Can someone tell me where the iron man poster they hung behind is from?

[@444chroma]

I love when one of you is completely opposed to the other viewpoints 😂

[@nawles1]

Angier player a huge trick in everyone 100 tanks, all giving you the impression theres sonething in them. Really its only root at the end who drowns. And the Borden is framed. A great trick that still fools everyone

[@netforce0]

i thought tesla was pierce brosnan :lol

[@blackice11z]

Is Batman really supposed to be twins? I always got the impression he was cloned, all the clues Wolverine follows to find Tesla's vanishing box. It's a much better movie as rival magicians using their clones in different ways.

[@JoJoJoker]

Angier kills his clone over and over. Borden hides his twin.

[@tsartomato]

this movie is so great it made me read the book nolan geeneeoos how he managed to turn that pile of mess into a film is a real work now even with hindsight that all nolan movies are terribly edited one-trick film-dipped-into-blender nonsense, prestige is still great because his terrible editing fits his new narrative

[@BlazeIsaf]

These reviews should be reference guides for the directors during remakes of these movies. Once you guys all got on the same page about your opinions about the movie, you began to effectively collaborate towards identifying the general weaknesses of the movie. Again... reference for remakes. P.S. - The insight on a lack of wide shots in this movie really hit me. Christopher Nolan really likes to take a reverse approach to world building, doesn’t he? Starts with close ups, then uses wide shots to emphasize the significance of a certain event or setting.

[@alangarde2928]

I had to go re-watch it last night after they brought up the lack of wide shots and David wishing there was more world. It had never occurred to me on previous watches. Watching it again with those specific comments in mind, I actually found that it was the mid-shots and close ups of the characters that generated much of the pacing for me. I never consider the world around them because the world around didn't feel important to me, these are deep personal intimate obsessions and the framing actually encouraged that for me. I wonder if its a stylistic choice by Nolan, I can see how it would totally rub some people the wrong way but its part of what appeals to me. Many of the wider shots are of their performances, which left me feeling this was 'their world' and everything outside of it really was secondary.

[@ukrotab5116]

i think you can say anything and i will still listen to you guyz

[@smukipogi]

A james bond fan called Prestige stupid? That says something...

[@wombat7961]

I wonder if this guy hates RDJs Sherlock Holmes

[@TheDragonHoard_com]

Love around 11:30 when David looks at the camera lol

[@jimmy_jab]

You mean 13:30?

[@Alex-pv3jx]

@@jimmy_jab lol

[@rudejase]

Whoa, 1+ hrs man what is this a movie review movie?

[@valterc]

Review The Illusionist next!

[@damyanmp]

but those water bottles!

[@genjamin]

You guys mentioned this but for emphasis, the twist that Christian Bale is a double is incredible because Michael Caine says outright in the first act that The Transported Man is a double. Hugh Jackman and Scarlett don't buy it so we the audience are misdirected to let go of that theory because it's too obvious if it was already mentioned and scrutinized in the movie. This is the meta misdirection of a Christopher Nolan magic trick. So when you see scenes of the ingenue, you might think oh that's Christian Bale except that if you were entrained properly by Nolan's misdirection, you throw out that theory because it's too easy. This is so absurdly giga brain that if you're not impressed by this I don't know what to tell you, we can't hang out. Nolan is telling us the twist outright from Michael Caine's dialog and again metaphorically in the opening scene with The Transported Bird trick. This movie is the greatest magic trick I've ever seen.

[@master.ofnone]

After being classed as a 'layman' with Riley in one of the last videos, James really brought his A-game. Keep laymanning Riley; we need you like that.

[@TaylorMade4Zero]

So why was David allowed to come into work drunk?

[@obiwanian2774]

These shows are great, loving it, more please

[@DioBrandoDaGOAT]

Everybody knows magic is fake but they still watch it and get awed by it, it goes same for this movie. Well if you know Nolan you know I'm not making this shit up. That's the sole reason why it goes the fantasy route. He just leaves it up to the audience's interpretation.

[@psychopopdesign]

HUGE JACKED MAN

[@savebigmoneyatmenards3307]

David's hubris is often unbearable

[@nawles1]

You guys thought the machine worked? Pffft way off dude. The guy on the left is lost. The birds mis directed you

[@giglymeshtalrac]

david doesnt understand how the cloning works in the movie.

[@F4rnl4cher]

8/10 wouldn't watch again. Could be a 9 if they kept it strictly realistic with the illusions instead of bringing the "science" magic. Most of the twists landed for me.

[@malkmusRules]

James' position on this reminds me of my own experience with The Usual Suspects. The devil having a club foot in medieval drama is a convention. In medieval literature the Devil can never take human form 100%. There is always something "wrong". Constant references to how Keyser Söze was "the Devil" and the fact that Kint has cerebral palsy and as a result, limps throughout the film made it obvious he was Söze. Obvious only because I happened to have remembered the convention from school. If I had not, it wouldn't be obvious but I found the film utterly boring as a result and have never re-watched it. I saw the Prestige in the theatre. Only Nolan film outside of his Batman films I've only seen once. Didn't remember a thing. This review confirms I don't need to watch it again.

[@malkmusRules]

I get names wrong more than Linus doesn't drop things. I meant David.

[@Alex-pv3jx]

Are those ath m 50s?

[@Omnicronous]

Thanks David all I see is tiny chin Jackman now

[@acsugg]

Hey maybe could yall check out v for vendetta or add it to to your maybe list. It's a fun film with some emotional beats

[@systoxity]

Start doing video games

[@kevinhammer3950]

first time yall got me to watch a movie, gg worth