The Trojan War : Part 5 : Achilles

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@Veriox22
@Veriox22 4 жыл бұрын
This was filled with detail for only 4 minutes. Perfect.
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou!
@DCapital-hm8eg
@DCapital-hm8eg Жыл бұрын
Achilles is my favourite character in The Trojan War!
@saidtoshimaru1832
@saidtoshimaru1832 4 жыл бұрын
Patroclus wasn't his cousin... that was invented for the movie Troy... and we all know why.
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
He's actually a cousin once removed :)
@zariyahsland8680
@zariyahsland8680 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet Home Alabama
@adastra3147
@adastra3147 3 жыл бұрын
His cousin is Ajax
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 2 жыл бұрын
@@adastra3147 which one. There are two
@fern1009
@fern1009 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the Total War: Troy trailer with Achilles and, upon remembering this legend, thought to myself: "That guy could not possibly pass himself off as a handmaiden." How smart is Odysseus again? Odysseus: "You're a very *burly* young woman. Where did you say you were from?" Achilles: "...From up north." Odysseus: "How far up north?" Achilles: "... My people wear pants." Odysseus: "Well. Checks out for me. Now who could Achilles be?"
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
From what I read, Achillies was meant to have been a very beautiful specimen, plus he was quite young at the time, so he could have probably pulled it off.
@fern1009
@fern1009 4 жыл бұрын
@@AncientHistoryGuy Understandable. When I think of Achilles, I usually defaulted to thinking of Brad Pitt's interpretation which is to say a slim but muscled fighter whose speed was as much a part of his abilities as his strength. That version of Achilles could defiitely pull of pretending to be a woman. But the one in Total War Troy does not look like someone who would bare the epithet "quick-footed." The Total War Achilles honestly looks closer to Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson than Brad Pitt in terms of muscle mass.
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@fern1009 I'm not the biggest fan of the Total War portrayal of Achillies, every other character they seem to have gotten somewhat historically accurate, or at least it keeps with the theme they are trying for. The Achillies model is, well, its something lol
@bigjavo36
@bigjavo36 4 жыл бұрын
I think they knew he was disguised and which one he was I think the plan was only to force Achilles to put himself.
@fern1009
@fern1009 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigjavo36 That's certainly one interpretation, and probably the only explanation for the beefy Total War version Achilles - or as I like to call him, Achilles "The Rock That is also Quick-Footed."
@GRBoi1993
@GRBoi1993 4 жыл бұрын
Weird that Patroclus was both his cousin and his boyfriend but I guess in the era before Grindr you take what you can get
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
different era, different cultures. "The Past is a foreign country, they do things differently there." :)
@HistoryUniversity
@HistoryUniversity 4 жыл бұрын
Love how the Dutch Ajax team gets their name from this war.
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
is it? learn something new everyday :)
@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371
@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 4 жыл бұрын
@@AncientHistoryGuy take a look at their club crest my man, he's on it
@sofiacoria7164
@sofiacoria7164 4 жыл бұрын
Achilles and Patroclus weren’t cousins
@JORDAN77777777777
@JORDAN77777777777 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Patraclese was his lover not his cousin.
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
He's actually is his cousin, just once removed! Patroclus' grandmother is Achillies' Great-Grandmother. He's also older than Achillies, which is why I've made his character drawing slightly taller than Achillies :)
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 2 жыл бұрын
The idea pf Patroclus being Achiles lover is not mentioned by Homer in the original book. But this idea is suprisingly as ancient as the pyramids are to Cleopatra
@AidanMartin
@AidanMartin 4 жыл бұрын
well that explains why achilles had the beautiful,luscious mane that he did!😂though the majority of the time in mycenaean artwork the men often portray themselves with back length hair just as achilles is shown here.
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
What I find fascinating is how you can tell what civilization a person is from during the Bronze Age. Bronze Age Egyptians were known for their bald hair cuts, Hittites were known for their very long hair, Mespotomians were known for their beards, its fascinating.
@AidanMartin
@AidanMartin 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is true despite the egyptians wearing wigs that look like bob cuts and mesopotamian men seem to wear there hair long as well but usually more about chin or shoulder length rather then back or even ocassionally waist length like the myceneans,hittites or minoans did
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@AidanMartin still is fascinating non the less! I also read somewhere that Achilles was ginger? which tbh, I really am not sure about.
@AidanMartin
@AidanMartin 4 жыл бұрын
@@AncientHistoryGuy most versions say he is blond but ok now that is something.I mean in the game helen is ginger though is usually depicted as blonde but agammenon and menelaus are describe as having red hair as well as odysseus
@AncientHistoryGuy
@AncientHistoryGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@AidanMartin yeah, like I'm all for a ginger Achilles, but I can't for the life of me find where on earth this is mentioned. I read somewhere, or my mother who is ginger decided to tell me about something she just read about redhead history, that's the ginger hair trait comes from Neandertal Heritage, which was the dominant Human species in Europe, so the Redhead gene at this time would be more dominant in the DNA pool in Europe at that time. So, it's possible a majority of Myceneans were redheads by this logic, but alas, I can't for the life of me find this article or whether it is worth any amount of salt.
@bigjavo36
@bigjavo36 4 жыл бұрын
Cousin and lover*
@johnisaiah985
@johnisaiah985 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would have happened if Achilles was real
@itarry4
@itarry4 3 жыл бұрын
And Achilies didn't bother wearing metal armour on his left heel. You know the only heel his mum held to dip him in the river and not both of them... Emmm. Honestly mate these small details are important. First Helen wasn't kidnapped in your videos now this...
@Ghost-vi8qm
@Ghost-vi8qm 4 жыл бұрын
How do we really know that Achilles was blond?
@adastra3147
@adastra3147 3 жыл бұрын
Because the books say so
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