The True Impact Of AI On Software Engineering

This is the true impact of AI on software engineering, as per Amazon CEO Andy Jassy.
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[@tdsora]

i work at amazon. it doesn't take 50 days to upgrade to java 17 lol. its literally one line of code most times. Some packages require more work, but it will be a few hours, not 50 days. our ceo is a clown

[@tdsora]

i forgot to mention, for the upgrades that require a few hours of debugging, the AI doesn’t solve that usecase. Thats why if you merged the one line dependency update change generated by the AI, sometimes it breaks build. then you investigate manually

[@vjunloc1]

Sounds more like an advertisement for their new 'Q service'

[@clem]

😅 Could be, but I don't think that takes away from the impressiveness of it or from its impact on SWEs. (To be clear, it wasn't an advertisement from me, but this is 👉 www.algoexpert.io/clem)

[@gidmanone]

​@@clemis this going to negatively affect Algo Experts?

[@TripeDemo]

@@clem if you think the source of the claim being the owner of the product has no relevance here then i've got a bridge to sell to you. either they are playing it up for publicity or amazon will suddenly boom in productivity, with the hundreds of thousands of man-hours that just got added to their resources. we'll see but i have a feeling it's the former.

[@jhonsen9842]

@@clem This is freely available on many platform. More Over Pattern has changed they have started new way to hire candidates.

[@grigoriikushnir4927]

It actually is. This is not even close to copilot, it's just java and only some of it's versions.

[@boot-strapper]

Amazon cant even make a decent UI. Imma call bullshit

[@CritterPop]

lol you’re funny , the “decent UI” won’t increase sales , it’s not broken , websites with better UI can’t even compete.

[@MrAverageViewer]

Amazon's UI, which may not seem "modern", is the UI that's crafted for two things: 1. SIMPLICITY, and 2. SALES. Amazon has built a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR company on that. Let's see the UI nerds using their shiny UI frameworks do the same.

[@boot-strapper]

@@MrAverageViewer it is not simple, especially AWS, which is their main money maker.

[@MrAverageViewer]

@@boot-strapper Ah, yes, AWS's UI is pretty bad -- among other things. From the UI standpoint of AWS, I definitely agree with you.

[@bestopinion9257]

Not a good idea to change it when people are used to it.

[@emperorpalpatine6080]

I hope this time they didn't give all that java migration to 150 000 indian developers

[@QwertyNPC]

I call bullshit. Show the work. Let's see what those 4500 dev years, 1642500 dev days actually stand for in terms of real product.

[@InfiniteQuest86]

Also we better see amazon earnings go up by like 1000% if this really happened. Otherwise, it didn't happen.

[@STEMstudentsFRIEND]

I want to know why they've only upgraded 50% in 6 months if it's so fast and valuable.

[@tonyb3123]

The proof is in the pudding here. Amazon doesn't keep around staff it doesn't need- they cut hundreds of SWE positions from AWS just to save some extra cash before AI was a thing. If they could use AI to make one developer as fast as 10, there would be 9 fewer employed developers. But Amazon is positioning itself to profit off the AI boom, so it suits them to tell crazy lies about the effectiveness of AI and have it be regurgitated by whatever fraud youtuber gullible enough to believe it.

[@TheGsinghg]

it will take a year for this to compound and show effect. majority of it was internal re-furbishing. those guys have just started working on customer focused products. also, if you don't know how high is the %age of swes dedicated to internal tools, then get some experience.

[@pb25193]

3% improvement in dev productivity over a year is enough

[@Mirvelik]

I am sorry, but it sounds like Amazon Q's sales talk. No more, no less. And yes, the numbers might be super manipulative in such talks

[@SidTheITGuy]

Yeah some guy on LinkedIn said it and some KZbinr is throwing stats at us. So it must be true, right? Don't fall for this people.

[@alex_lll]

This hits close to home - I just finished migrating from java 8 to 17 in my cloud project (not amazon). Took several months of tedious and thankless work. And the thing is - the code changes themselves took only a fraction of the time, overwhelming majority of time and effort was spent on testing and debugging various edge cases (mostly around new API introduced by other teams during migration). So even if we had AI that magically converts code from java 8 to java 17 - it would save maybe a couple of days at most. So yeah, I'm sceptical about the numbers thrown around by this amazon guy

[@clem]

Lol, "some guy." I guess the CEO of the 5th largest company in the world by market cap--the same guy who came up with the idea to build AWS back in 2003--is just some random guy spewing BS. 😅

[@alex_lll]

@@clem if you think credentials is the way to go then I have a Hyperloop to sell you. Invest now. Or you can just stop hyping every sales pitch at 100% value (*cough* devin *cough*)

[@SidTheITGuy]

@@clem For someone who's such a big KZbinr, you surely don't have more than two brain cells to show for it. Predictions don't always go the way these people say it. Remember when Steve Jobs was against the idea of renting songs for a monthly price? Guess what Spotify does now.

[@SidTheITGuy]

@@clem Look at that, comment moderation turned on, huh?? For someone who's supposed to be such a credible guy, you're sure a snowflake. What happened, too scared to get your fee-fees hurt? Coming back to your point, predictions do go wrong, you know that right?? Remember when Steve Jobs was against the idea of renting a collection of songs for a monthly recurring price? Guess what Spotify does now. You remember when Nokia CEO said smartphones will never be a thing? Yeah.

[@JTP709]

Unless I'm missing something, I struggle to see how this pattern will continue where AI can help with tedious migrations as newer frameworks/languages/etc are released and there isn't enough training data for the AI. The first few months (years?) of a new major release will still require engineers to do the brunt of the work until the AI models can catch up.

[@Jbombjohnson]

Correct. Unless significant data already exists, and sufficient time and resources are given to train on said existing data, current AI is completely incapable of providing novel solutions to problems. This will not change without a fundamental shift in how AI reaches a conclusion. This means that developers will always be needed to work on up-to-date and bleeding edge tech.

[@alexanderserafeim9416]

Probably younger companies or open source projects have to bite the bullet on this one.

[@jrajesh11]

First of all , the managers and directors need to be be replaced fully. Recruitment can be done by AI alone. All administrative paper work by govt should be replaced with AI.

[@ESCAcarlos]

Those are 4500 dev years from junior devs trying to have their first experience in a code base and break into the industry! Those are bad news for every university student!

[@Korodarn]

He said these are auto-generated code-reviews. Not exactly what I'd want a junior dev to be doing.

[@clem]

That's the doomer side of the argument! The other side is: "those junior devs will now get to flex their muscles in actually meaningful feature development rather than boring and not-so-intellectually-stimulating migration work!"

[@austinmusiku778]

​@@clem Not just "those juniors". Only a significantly smaller fraction of those juniors.

[@TheFhpapa]

@@clemyea I agree, I actually think that there will still be a need for junior devs for things like these, but more of a passive role versus actively doing it, if that makes sense. More likely lots of validation and testing tasks probably

[@JosifovGjorgi]

This is more sales pitch for Java then it is for Amazon Q Java is backward compatible since day 1 and migration from Java 8 to latest Java is mostly missing libraries that can be detect at startup times However, I want to see Python 2.7 to latest Python migration and how smoothly that went, that is real challenge for Amazon Q to solve

[@guitarbuddha74]

There are still so many issues with LLMs. Just use them for a bit and I'm sure at your coding level you would see it really quick. I have found kind of like you said it saves time on tedious stuff like boilerplate things or getting an initial skeleton of stuff going. I have also used it for helping me learn more programming but you pretty much have to test everything. It really is non deterministic and will just sneak stuff in there or will use an older way of doing something. The worst thing is it placing some type of logical issue in your code that testing doesn't catch. Sure you can also make that kind of error but so can AI. I think it is still really important to fully understand what it is doing and not get complacent unless it dramatically improves soon. I think it is a decent helper if you are smart and know what to leverage. I won't hold my breath thinking most companies will do that though.

[@Korodarn]

Yeah I don't think autoregressive models are going to suddenly get fixed. They will get "better" at longer sequences of tokens, and at replying well to some types of questions, but there is no real reasoning going on in them. They are prediction engines, not deduction engines. They appear to deduce when the training data affords them enough similar patterns to reasonably provide something that approximates what you need.

[@Mirvelik]

form the original BS post: "This is a great example of how large-scale enterprises can gain significant efficiencies in foundational software hygiene work by leveraging Amazon Q. It’s been a game changer for us, and not only do our Amazon teams plan to use this"

[@yuriy5376]

Yeah, I knew it's just a sales pitch for whatever new overpriced service they are tryoling to sell 😂

[@Coufu]

I kinda feel bad for interns and junior engineers of the future who build a lot of their skills fixing these bugs and doing the more tedious work. Same thing for visual designers and how AI is taking their tedious jobs too.

[@waldenwasted2665]

It means less jobs and more competition.

[@hemiedwards217]

And lower wages

[@tacorevenge87]

Pretty much

[@jceddy1]

It's just another powerpoint bullet to put on a earnings call -- all nonsense.

[@mahdidi96]

Amazon dev here, I'm super surprised by it too but yes, we literally were able to upgrade 5 applications to JDK17 in roughly 2.5 weeks.

[@leonardomangano6861]

meh, too slow

[@petemorris1885]

Ah the optimism of youth. Give it a few more years and you’ll find the “exciting” work tedious as fuck too.

[@gauloise6442]

work in writing (words not code) and I think what has happened to us will happen to software people in the next few years. Basically everyone is being changed from being a writer and editor to a "reviewer". Even if the copy is horrible and takes time to clean up, since it was already written by the AI, we are paid a fraction of what you would get as a writer or an editor of human-written work. Moreover the efficiency of AI means there are a lot of people scrambling for fewer, lower paying jobs. A lot of people still cling to the dream that human writers will be sought after more than ever because you can't replace human creativity or that AI will only make us more productive creating more work. But things haven't been creative for decades. We are churning out garbage product that is why we are easily replaceable. At least as a writer of English, we don't have to worry about offshoring or H1-B visas just yet (but as English becomes the global language it is only a matter of time), which software people do have to worry about. The people clinging to the "human creativity can't be replaced" or "AI will make us more efficient leading to better more visionary jobs" are the ones who are not training and switching to new jobs right now. Don't stay on the Titanic. Yes, there will be a few people with better, more visionary jobs, but they are either lucky or have good connections. The vast majority will be given work that used to be entry level, grind work with little room for promotion. There will just be the need for people to check the AI output for fatal flaws and mistakes. And believe me that is more tedious than the most tedious "human" work.

[@dasaauploads1143]

It has reduced new job placements for sure. We are hiring less than 20% new engineers as we used to before the pandemic. But the workload and expectations have increased from the management team.

[@TheNora_]

Amazon invested 4 billion in Anthropic, Claude. Sounds like they are getting their money back pretty fast.

[@xangelux]

I think this is a PR publication, which means he's given the information that would impact best, I don't think it's a lie but it looks like a "half truth", I believe AI was used to help with the upgrade but I don't think it just was the only one working on the upgrade, it would be insane to do that, us engineers use "side effects" of code to account for abstraction problems or even shortcomings of a library or language itself. This "side effects" most of the time are tied to versions and an upgrade would need engineers capable of understanding that abstraction to update/remove/re-do the affected code. So I think the real news header is: AWS boosted developer productivity using AI and ended up saving this many hours of development. But this is not so flashy and dramatic and would not bring the attention of investors as much as the original one.

[@georgecarder4695]

How many kilowatt hours of electricity did their AI use? I bet it cost more than the human salaries.

[@SkyNhett]

You are missing a key point. If you can ask AI for the answer, why do you need a program? If you don't need a program, you don't need a programmer.

[@Reflekt0r]

Years! ... Years!

[@dnedya]

It's cool to see AI actually doing something that nobody can really complain about. Management is happy, devs are happy, and users are happy because they get better software. I was very afraid that it would be in direct competition with devs but it seems to be more empowering than anything. Thanks for sharing!

[@houkensjtu]

I actually kinda liked migration work! It doesn’t cause much invisible risks and you definitely learn a lot about the code base and the language. I think it will be a very solid first step for junior developers.

[@jeno427]

Amazon Q is accessible outside amazon and free to use btw.

[@Korodarn]

Exactly, and if you use it, you're going to notice it's sometimes helpful, but frequently very mediocre. Claude is much more helpful, and even if it is very frequently wrong.

[@jeno427]

@@Korodarn I agree, I use it as a free Copilot replacement. The chat function is not very good. Claude on Phind is excellent.

[@turkyturky6274]

Ai can't code, looking up quick documentation yes

[@m4dalex478]

A migration from Java version x to Java version 2x which is a backwards compatible language..? So essentially you upgrade your IDEs to latest version and rerun all tests just to make sure right? What is it that you really migrate when the code does not really change? Anyone who knows, please answer, this is an honest question.

[@Jbombjohnson]

I agree mostly with the premise of your question. Migration from JavaScript to Typescript as Clement mentioned is vastly different than Java version x to xx. I would argue that AI would never be able to migrate between languages without significant involvement of human developers. To answer your question of ”what changes”, it’s not just upgrading an IDE and re-run tests. When you move from version to version of a language, especially major releases, APIs, core libraries, keywords, data structures, etc. can change in how they are implemented, or become deprecated completely. This means that sometimes things that worked on version 1.x no longer work on version 1.xx or 2.x, and need to be changed to accommodate the new version. This is rare (except for languages like Python and JavaScript), but does happen.

[@m4dalex478]

@@Jbombjohnson At this point of LLM history, I doubt that there were deprecated modules that were automatically rewritten from an LLM. I can only guess that what Amazon's CEO described in his tweet was a best case scenario migration, where nothing broke and sold it as a huge LLM migration success. Would be really interesting to see how an LLM could automatically resolve problems during migration. I guess we are going to have an AWS AI powered migration tool soon that we will be able to run on our codebase inside a closed container (no training).

[@shaurya3284]

Java upgrades are also not just about version changes for backwards compatible code but it also means using those features which are present in Java 17 in this case that really makes for a true migration , that will require code changes to be done , rewriting unit tests etc , so people tend to oversimplify migrations Sometimes with Java you also have scala code to migrate then you need to figure that out as well

[@markfaine2169]

*This comment is my opinion, not fact, im not assiociated with any company, and im not using any company names - theat this comment like science-fiction, not based on actual events* Always take with grain salt any CEO said. They will never say "we spent X years and Y bilions of dollars to build a tool to automate migration, and now we saved Z devhours" - it would sound like they didnt save, they just made return on investment. This wont raise stock prices, and investors wouldnt be happy. CEO will never use "in worst case scenario, migration of service takes X devdays" - that worst case is standard, anything great is "great success" Another thing - probably people on PIP were doing those migrations so they had no motivation to complete it ASAP, probably most of those days were spent grinding LC...

[@rolandoriley]

Clement, I think you are forgetting that programmers also need their jobs. I doesn't really matter how repetitive it is, or boring it is. You need a source of income. So this kind of news is not so optimistic for the other part of the equation. Love your videos.. nice review

[@hemiedwards217]

He's just assuming that companies will use the money they save from spending on these migrations and pay engineers to work on new features, but more likely they'll funnel it into dividends, stock buybacks, and executive bonuses.

[@sayyara2921]

DONT WORRY AI WILL NEVER REPLACE SOFTWARE ENGINEERS - LITERALLY DUMBEST WORDS EVER

[@abduljelilali568]

It will minimize the number of Engineers needed on a certain project. That's for sure.

[@Jbombjohnson]

@@abduljelilali568this logic can then be extended to say it will increase the number of projects an enterprise can produce. We won’t see a significant reduction in jobs beyond normal market fluctuations.

[@blazer511]

​@@Jbombjohnson you should really study how capitalism functions

[@Jbombjohnson]

@@blazer511 unless you’re a formal economist, I likely know just as much or more about capitalistic economies as you. Nothing I said conflicts with capitalism.

[@Spadoosky]

@@blazer511 actually perhaps you should. If AI displaces large amounts of jobs and floods the market with unemployed workers increasing competition and causing people to be nervous about their income, this will reduce consumer spending in nearly every capacity and cause extreme harm to the economy. If corporations are so short-sighted that they cannot see this, then they will fail. Who cares if a company can produce 10x more product if there are less people now who can spend money due to high unemployment and economic uncertainty? Surely people cannot be so stupid, I don't believe the AI job scare will pan out like they say. Doomsday scenarios like this never do.

[@ryntopps]

Considering how I work at amazon all it did was play around with the package configs until it built. It wasn't revolutionary just grunt work of getting a working build. Sure it helped but for the most part one of our devs could have done most of it in like 10 minutes, but we had other things to focus on and it tends to slip people's minds

[@sayasark]

where is the linkedin post ?

[@clem]

Just added it to the description of the video. You can find it here too 👇 www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7232374162185461760/

[@SacredCASHcow]

i don't know how you can just replace engineers with AI..reduce number of engineers sure but AI is not yet able to manage the stack

[@hemiedwards217]

That's where the savings come from. Adding up all the man hours of the engineers that they didn't need to pay to work on those migrations.

[@marcoio8742]

Just out of curiosity for Mr. Jassy, what did Amazon use for making Amazon Q? What were the steps, or implementations, guidelines, flows etc? I bet they were all done by SWEs, real human beings. I will never be sold to the idea that AI is going to replace SWEs as long as for all intents and purposes of modern software, nothing is really made through AI. Everyone always advertises how AI solved issues faster (like Devin AI) and how incredibile it is that an AI model can now pass a Google interview (which I think it is a bigger indication of the poor quality of the interview itself, than the good quality of the AI engine), but behind every single integration, or feature or project there are always real human beings, real developers. We only see the results of it and completely ignore what sits in front of it. People didn't stop working at car factories because they introduced robots. After all, those robots come from somewhere. My opinion of course

[@SWGTBruno]

I completely agree! AI is here to help Devs, not to replace Devs.. and those who think AI will replace everything and everyone, are just accelerating the process to implede a company / project. Likely IoT some years ago, everything now has to have "AI" in it, this will fall into normality (like IoT and some keywords that the lobby's love to hear as the next best future thing) it's more than showed that this is a great tool for DEV's, to create more, to do more, to produce more.. im glad i can relly at AI for the tedious work, for the questions of "whats the best approach for this flow?", helping us to produce better and less error prone code. Once again I see this as a great thing for us, and for the new devs out there, how to work with AI, for this kind of work is just needed nowadays.. don't be the ones that say "oh i never use chatgpt.." like this is a good thing..

[@gamemoves2415]

I don't believe this. Going from JS to TS and even the latest chatgpt models make mistakes with my simple code. How much more production code?

[@craiggazimbi]

The increasing use of AI tools in software development will inevitably lead to the introduction of more bugs, creating a greater demand for skilled software engineers to address these issues. I believe the job market for developers is poised to improve. However, the bar for entry is now higher. It’s no longer sufficient to simply know frameworks like React; you need to deeply understand their inner workings and the reasons behind why certain things function the way they do. This applies to all technologies you work with-mastering the ‘why’ and ‘how’ is crucial for staying relevant in the industry.

[@bachirmo7]

sorry but llms have only produced garbage code so far and they seems to have reached their peak in terms of learning

[@JA-gz6cj]

Why do you think they have reached their peak? They will get better for sure

[@alexanderserafeim9416]

I guess freeing up engineering time for more creative tasks is more important than the money since you will probably have to spend a lot on the training (GPUs) and also on dedicated teams working on the AI product it self. At least the 80 % mentioned seems to be consistent with the various benchmarks on fine-tuned LLMs for coding so it seems believable.

[@andreas_tech]

He says that, to put forward a good argumented excuse (that excites us) For laying off thousands of developers. Its the way: well guys, you know why. I explained to you few months back.... Layoffs coming!

[@ivanmel]

Wow you changed a lot since I watched your channel 2 years ago.

[@georgejose139]

Bro , I checked his Linkedin but i did not see this post

[@jahstreetlove]

What if this video is generated by AI?)

[@koshydigital]

I found it. KZbin won't allow me to paste links, but it is there.

[@clem]

Weird; it's definitely there. Here's the link 👇 www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7232374162185461760/

[@sasakanjuh7660]

4:54 - *Guy says some crazy stuff*, your response: "I think he's telling the truth".. Sure, because they didn't lie about 1000 Indians before.. After this statement, Amazon's credibility when it comes to AI just skyrocketed in my book :D

[@testtest-co9hk]

migration != just replace the lines, it also involves testing those replaced lines and assume that amazon did that part too. This means giving up your closed source proprietary code to amazon q service for it to go through the entire business logic and suggest the changes. i don't see something like this happening at any major company. that being said, it is quiet impressive if ai does that. i just don't trust it. i will run all the test suites to be a little sure but still then....

[@Tebbsy71]

100 percent . so so so so true

[@Vedarta]

I thought I was going to disagree at first, but yeah… spot on!

[@sahil98031]

I spent 1.5 years in isolation learning front end and backend development as well as software automation testing. For 16 to 18 hours a day, and I cant even get something as a jr or anything.

[@devpitch]

I came to the same conclusion. In the future developers would only have to understand and tweak code for migrations/modernizations.

[@hopfer66]

Considering the last reports from Ai that it does exactly the same errors than the overall developers, for me seems that we will be doing the same refactoring we always did in the past 40 years, except that the origin will be diferent. Instead stubborns junior developers... IA.

[@Diego-v3m2h]

Amazon has been really slow recently ._. at least on Firefox. Doesn't load pages like orders

[@danielkopp1742]

i worked at amazon and these numbers dont seem to make sense at all... i have no idea where jassy is pulling them from. ive seen estimates that theres ~35,000 software developers at amazon. amazon q has been a thing for 1 year. 4500 years / 35,000 developers = 0.12 years per developer. which means that each developer is saving 1.44 months of work for just migrations??? this would also mean that on approximately every developer at amazon has done java migrations this year or 35,000 java migrations... meanwhile my team has attempted to do one ai migration (taking longer than it would manually). i think these numbers have been massively stretched to try and advertise Q (which sucks and decreases productivity according to most devs ive spoken to) and boost the amazon stock price.

[@sdb584]

2 points: 1) Hey developers...this is what we are supposed to be doing. Namely automating everything, 2) This is nothing new. I worked with a few developers in the mid 80's who "magically" showed management how they could convert 6502 assembler educational software into 8088 assembler in minutes. Same concept...

[@formalshorts8561]

Chad Bezos. Gotta meet this guy. Sounds like Jeff's drunk uncle.

[@bladbimer]

Well what is funny is that software dev started with books, then google and stackoverflow, videos and now chat gpt. All this is making us been way more productive with caution of always review the result with our knowledge of the big picture. Developpements is a lot of reapeating ourself as problems are similar and redone all the time. I like been able to use AI to get this work to focus on business instead of reapeated code that everyone does. It's my opinion

[@dhruvimaheshwari3116]

Hey Clement, I purchased courses from Algoexpert. While completing the minimum criteria for the questions for DSA and getting certificate for the same, my profile got out for the recruitment process. How come I not get even 1 interview? I don't understand the reason behind it. So, I wanna ask how the recruitment process of Algoexpert actually works?

[@antquinonez]

AI is going to do a lot more than just the tedious work. We should all of us still learn to use these tools, regardless of what the future brings.

[@TheNora_]

Amazon Q can replace the work of thousands of developers who would otherwise spend significant time on manual upgrades, allowing them to focus on more strategic tasks. But will they be moved to strategic tasks? Or laid off?

[@vladislavgorovenko]

Nice video, but then... If you didn't do migrations on you own, how would you be able to code in new version of language / library / framework?

[@toby.2a]

MBR = monthly business review

[@dirtyred-ch7mk]

I’m a developer and I could rebuild Amazon and aws including every data center from scratch in 4500 years

[@MandanaZilabi]

I liked the way see the AI in an optimistic way

[@simonabunker]

How exactly would you use AI to modernize a framework? Are there specific tools for this?

[@patrickchan2503]

you can migrate java to kotlin automatically, the end result is not perfect and the SWE would spend time fixing bugs, still a handy tool to have. This was in 2021 so now the tool is much better maybe

[@eyemazed]

Let's analyse your optimistic prognosis. Let's say AI is "only" ever going to replace the "tedius & repetitive" software engineering. The developers will be able to focus on new & interesting R&D instead. Given that, conservatively speaking, at least 50% of development hours are currently spent on "tedius and repetitive" tasks, that means companies will need 50% less developer-hours, which directly translates to a proportionate decrease in demand for software engineers. With such a fall of demand, and a quickly rising supply of software engineers (the bar is lowered exactly because of AI tools), the market response is very obvious. Even if, by some miracle, the number of software engineering jobs doesn't fall off rapidly, the wages are bound to plummet

[@JoeCnNd]

Do you think that regulations need to happen on AI? I don't even want to go for a computer science degree because of this. I know it's a double edge sword, if you do regulate it, they will just ship jobs overseas.

[@UNMEASURED100]

I am changing my career to cloud engineering.

[@mohamedalichakroun6967]

Cloud engineers will also be replaced by AI.

[@Jbombjohnson]

@@mohamedalichakroun6967lol, no they won’t. I’m a cloud engineer at a large, multinational consulting firm. The level of client interaction and customization that on premises and proprietary cloud development requires will literally never be replaced by AI in any near term without a fundamental humanity altering discovery in AI capabilities. It’s not even close.

[@UNMEASURED100]

​@@mohamedalichakroun6967 You're wrong. Even if AI somehow replace cloud engineers, by that time, SWEs are dead.

[@blazer511]

That's not going to save you, they will also be replaced by AI, how about you try a profession that needs to be done domestically

[@Jbombjohnson]

Unless those giving opinions are in these professions, the opposing opinions are just noise. Cloud and software engineering are completely safe and lucrative industries to get into. Do not listen to any detractors, you’ll be good. 😁

[@ynnkh2116]

Why is it only Marketers/Commercials and CEO telling "AI replaced this and that" I want the feedback of the people who actually work in the field 😂

[@kevinmoy3752]

terminator overlords in 6524 be like...

[@Vlad-qr5sf]

"no one likes doing that" until you realize that it's your job. You'll soon be part-time employee without that.

[@ojxchaos]

0:46 Crowdstrike has entered the chat

[@IgnacioChavez]

Don't buy it, down to a few hours, nah...you need to coordinate this work

[@coderanger75]

Did it take 4500 years to write it in the first place? No. So why would it save 4500 years?

[@unanimous8510]

Bro you gained at least 20 kilos

[@JacobAnnooz-p2r]

AI can not design either complete a software, so relax

[@theonegatoo]

I mean software engineers already built the systems. You don't really need to keep them hired. You are better off spending that on network security.

[@ТарасАтаманчук-с5ш]

i port new java api over old one. Use replace all . i save 4billion years of work. HAHA

[@taterrhead]

'what we saved the developers' ... YEAH SURE you didn't just have them work on something harder+more profitable for the company AND you also laid off more developers so definitely 'saving' them!

[@andreas_tech]

Things are evolving sharply! Ai agents , capable to recheck themselfes, make - lets be real - +90% of all engineers obsolete. Time ticking.....

[@TCL-e1r]

I do not find the correct definition for "MBRS"

[@kapilchandra81]

Does this mean there’s gonna be more layoffs?

[@covertmisnomer7726]

Actually Andy gave up ceo, handed it down to another

[@Randalandradenunes]

Honestly, this is great if AI can do this but I am extremely skeptical. I use AI everyday and sometimes it's really annoying because it changes your logic when you haven't ask it to change it, it adds random stuff into the code, and so on. It's a great tool, but it's very easy to rely on it too much and being actually less productive than without it.

[@danishdart]

This guy drips 'Swedish'

[@e889.]

First Product Managers, Managers and ,HR must be replaced with AI

[@Padthai_Shrimp]

hmm, im not that smart, but aint this bad. If we replace the workforce with AI. Then you take away buying power from those workers. And hence people aint going to be buying stuff. Hence more turmoil in economy.

[@gauravtejpal8901]

Kind of. The economy would just shrink. Proportionately less consumer goods and more luxury goods and weapon systems. And this is already happening

[@adityantamarapu6239]

On the contrary, more startups can open that leverage the new tech and create jobs. But the net number of software engineers will still go down.

[@gauravtejpal8901]

@@adityantamarapu6239 Do you see a lot of startups opening up?

[@gauravtejpal8901]

@@adityantamarapu6239 Do you see many start ups coming up?

[@Horsewithnoname88]

This feels very AmazonJustWalkOuty to me.

[@kireetjoshi3711]

AlgoAIExpert - learn everything from AI

[@rambalram2610]

Andy Jassy is just a manager.... He has not written a single line of code. I doubt how much true knowledge he has about Software Engineering.. What he is saying might be fed to him in his org.

[@josephfoster1987]

I wish i was cog in the machine. Rn I’m just a cog

[@TheWityful]

That means they only need like 5 engineers to maintain all their systems 😂 let’s see it

[@plorks445]

Those that will survive longer are those that find a way to embrace Ai and use it to their advantage instead of trying to ignore or fight it. Sad but I think it's true. I can barely do simple Arduino programming. With the help of Ai I'm now working on my first ROS 2 project. That's something I could never have dreamed of touching without massive help from Ai. I use Maya daily as a 3D modeler. Using Ai I can basically write any mel or python script I want now. Struggled for weeks just to write my first simple python script to do some batch UV work for me. I've since tried the same script idea with Ai and got it to spit out a working script that does the same thing. Took the Ai about 10 minutes of rewrites using suggestions and feature requests from me to finish the script 🤯 I do disagree with your optimistic side of Ai. Even those mundane tasks are a lot of jobs that will be lost. Also stupid people like me are going to start flooding the job market as Ai makes us more productive. People hiring aren't going to hire those that aren't experienced with using Ai. That's just the beginning.

[@justinplays2963]

Like it or not AI is taking SWE jobs and for the past decade the SWE was advertised to be the best career path and now there are milions of juniors trying to get into the industry and they can't cause there is probably an AI who can do same stuff they can and way faster. So you have to compete with Senior SWE but you'd get payed as a Junior while trying to do the work of a Senior. RIP

[@BohdanTrotsenko]

thanks, makes some sense

[@surinassawajaroenkoon6064]

CEO people are the least software architecture knowledgeable. All Amazon SWEs should quit and see if Amazon stock price will go up or down.

[@dolapoalli467]

Must be one of their just walk out AI technology

[@taylorkaplan2614]

Ai is faster because their internal buerocratic process are that bad. It has nothing to do with actual software dev

[@scottkatzelnick9705]

MBR - Monthly Business Review

[@emanueled.4857]

And how that wealth is redistributed from Amazon into the society? Serious topic, not bullshit commy stuff. Like now we are replacing the work of thousands of engineers (with families) for N companies, and that’s cool, if I’d be an entrepreneur I was going immediately for it. But will this M saved will be deposited (or part of it) by this N companies to compensate for a potential expensive welfare bill (unemployment, etc)? Are there some figures around showing what’s the impact besides profit (of course) and costs saving?