The TRUE Story of The Shining's Toxic Movie Set | Truly Horror

[@ColleenLytle-sq8tx]

Thank you is all I can say, well done. RIP, our beloved Shelley.

[@llywelyngruffydd8474]

Shelly Duvall was a serious and talented actress who gave a knock out performance in the Shining. It wasn't the only time she did that. Check out her performance in Robert Altman's Three Women, for instance. She was working at the highest possible level professionally with one of the world's most acclaimed directors and yet people act like she was a hapless damsel in distress or a child or something. She wasn't. Not everything can be participation trophies and padded edges.

[@emerybluh4506]

I will never be able to rewatch or enjoy Kubrick's films because of what he did to many of his actors but specifically Shelley Duvall. As someone raised by a perfectionist and domestic abuser like him and the many rumours of him being extremely abusive in his interpersonal relationships I can't find any joy knowing someone was suffering.

[@whatthehorror]

When you know the facts behind the scenes it can sour your enjoyment can't it.

[@philipcliff5171]

I'm loving this be series, which does seem a bit strange to say considering the unhappy nature of the content. I hope stories of toxic sets can help reduce them in future. Keep up the good work! Can't wait for the next one.

[@whatthehorror]

Thank you. I'm so pleased people are enjoying this series. You make a really good point, that it's important to talk about these events in the hopes that it prevents it from happening again.

[@IMR888-g5q]

"Shining" is one of my favourite books, and as someone who read the book zillion times, I can't escape the fact that the entire atmosphere in the book is so creepy, scary and magnetically hypnotizing. Once you are in the story it feels way more than just the book. I personally believe that Kubrick tried to put that very sane atmosphere or at least essence of it in a movie. And that's why he was so demanding. I am not defending the way he treated Shelley Duvall, may she rest in peace, but he surely wanted through her portrayal of Wendy to make her character more vulnerable and scared. This is just my opinion and hunch. All main characters from the book, were extremely hard to play. ...so by making perhaps unpleasant atmosphere on set, you would get that "havines & constant tension" in the movie, which ultimately makes him so great.

[@BrooklynneMuffett]

I love this movie. I loved stanley kubrick and never knew of this until I learned of her death today. I'm so saddened to hear of this. Kubrick is a monster. This is horrible and I feel badly for loving all 3 so much. I thought her performance was far better than anyone else's personally. 😕

[@77jamess]

I do personally feel as if Shelly herself was predisposed to mental health problems, given her current mental health problems now. Like you mentioned, Kubrick expected 110% from all the people who worked for him. And working for Kubrick was hard work no matter who you were. I recommend listening to the audiobook "Stanley Kubrick and Me: Thirty Years at His Side". Which is from his driver and all around assistant, as it really gives you more insight into the person Stanley Kubrick was. He definitely overworked his actors and workers in general. He seemed to have a hard time understanding why people didn’t enjoy working as much as he did. I don’t believe his intention was to hurt any of his actors though. Apparently the Scatman Crothers story about him breaking down because of the amount of takes doesn’t have much credibility either, as the rumour started from a clip of him getting very emotional when filming had wrapped as he explained that he was going to miss working with the cast and crew. I can only find one interview with Scatman, where he is constantly praising Stanley for his ability to work with actors. Also it’s important to point out that U.K. press used to make up stories about Stanley Kubrick too, because they hated that he wouldn’t give them interviews, so a lot of the Kubrick myths originate there.

[@whatthehorror]

Thank you for taking the time to watch, I appreciate it. It's always interesting to have another perspective.

[@UNUSUALUSERNAME220]

It was a classic instance of gaslighting, pure and simple. I like the way Harvey Keitel handled Kubrick. Harvey was asked to do take after take until he was well above forty. Finally , he asked Kubrick why he was doing so many takes and Kubrick said that it was not what he was looking for yet and when he got it they would move on. Keitel said "Ahh you're fuckin nuts!" and walked off the set. Ata boy Harvey!

[@whatthehorror]

I've not heard that before but good for him.

[@wintergirll]

I had to pause at ROBIN WILLIAMS???! I mean can you even IMAGINE? 😅🙈 It just got me thinking though, I wonder if he had played Jack, how the atmosphere on set would be? Would he have allowed Kubrick to treat Shelley that way? I honestly couldn’t picture him allowing that behaviour. Maybe that says something about Jack Nicholson as a person too.

[@whatthehorror]

I know right, I imagine it would have been a whole different movie with Williams in the role.

[@josemanuellopezfermin1878]

Yes, it's a very autographic novel by Stephen King, yes, Shelley suffered a lot on the set, Good treatment of the actors and the work team must prevail, Kubrick made a lot of changes, it's still a good work of horror cinema

[@staphers_theoneandonly3933]

I personally don’t think Jessica Lange would have put up with Kubrick’s demands 😌 sorry

[@VgnRaj]

I appreciate your personal opinions here. Were elements of this movie great? Yes. Was Stanley abusive to Shelley? Definitively. Knowing what he was seeking could he have achieved another ways. His search for the "Perfect Shot" was obsessive to the point of psychotic. Even Scatman Carothers suffered greatly to a lesser extent, from Kubrick's number of takes. Stanley's inflexibility in Directing style really hurt his actors. What Tarantino almost did to Uma Thurman (Directing Kill Bill) did the same thing psychologically to Shelley Duvall.

[@whatthehorror]

Thank you. There is no question his movie is a masterpiece but he could have achieved that without the suffering.

[@eatallnowsavenone4later342]

Poor Shelley 😞

[@laurolopezsanchez8008]

You just repeated over and over the same 3 sentence that you took it from interviews